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This video, filmed on location at the Onondaga Nation School, focuses on the meaning of the name “Haudenosaunee” and includes information about the duties of the Six Nations as well as the use of the name “Iroquois” throughout history. This video accompanies New York State Education Department ELA curriculum module 4M1A.
This is how our schools should teach the history of the natives of these lands. I think it is very important that the truth be taught instead of skipping over it . This culture should not be forgotten but celebrated
Totally agree!!
My college is talking about it
@@MasonLeBrohnson25 If you don't like it, then leave. It's not your land. If someone went into your home you would expect them to follow the rules of your home. We're in their home, and if they say they are Haudenosaunee then, out of respect, we should call them by the name they would like to be recognized by.
I belive it to be a great injustise of the erasing and forgetting of the native american cultures.
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Oh hush up and go stand in the corner with your dunce cap on, Dumbledore.
Wow. That woman has old eyes, she has seen a lot. The girl, has young, hopeful eyes, that are looking brightly at the future. So good to see.
The elder woman sees through her ancestors. This is what you see.
Wonderful to see the proud young girl listening so closely to the elder lady. May they both be a part of their peoples gaining new strength and confidence into the future.
Researching my own family history. Learned that my Great-Grandfather was a Susquehannock. The Haudenosaunee gave my family safe refuge. I wanted to say thank you to the Haudenosaunee tribe for their love and support of my family. He fled to WI in 1920, he had to discard his culture to survive and found refuge with the French and we lived as French since. It has been kept a secret within my family, out of fear to say out loud that we are descendants of the Susquehannock, but I do not want to live in fear, I want my children to be proud of their Susquehannock ancestry. If any Haudenosaunee is watching and ever heard or knew of William Joseph Pleau(lt), my Great-Grandfather, just know that he had a beautiful life and he passed on leaving a large family behind. I am very proud of my Great-Grandfather for doing what he had to to protect us. He never forgot the Haudenosaunee and he told his family of your kindness, so again thank you so much for helping my family.
For a few years when I was young in the early 1970s in the Buffalo schools, we had a Seneca teacher come in once a week to teach us about history and culture from this area that was NOT European, etc. It was always very loved by my classmates - but as funding was gutted that was one of the first things to go from the schools. (After that came art and music, etc.)
That’s awesome you were able to learn our culture, sucks it was cut though. It should be taught to all of WNY.
How dare they find the funds for something they can control smh Im happy you got the little time that you did to learn.
I've seen the name Haudenosaunee countless times, but never knew how to pronounce it. Thank you for the background!
I have taught native history in my 'American' history classes and so appreciate beginning to know about the Haudenosaunee. In all the materials I have read, the book "Braiding Sweetgrass" (Robin Wall Kimmerer) is the first to give me this history.
I am also here from Braiding Sweetgrass! What a beautiful book that has taught me so much!
This is wonderful information. My children are matriarchically descended from the Mohawks of the Bay of Quinte. Recently, I've felt that my daughter should learn more about her heritage and culture. Videos like this are VERY helpful. Thank you so much!
As a fellow daughter of the Mohawk people I agree with you. We should be taught whom we are and to be proud of it like everyone else.
Actually the story goes that the name 'Iroquois' was conceived not by the English but by the French. When the explorer Samuel de Champlain explored the region along the St. Lawrence river he was told about these people by an enemy tribe (the Huron) who called them the 'eelakwa' supposedly meaning - the snake people. Not understanding this was meant to be derogatory, Champlain used this term to identify them as such but in his French style of pronunciation it sounded as "Iroquois".
Ohhh! Thank you. I was trying to find what word in English is related to but as soon as you said French I found it. Although I found it was the Algonquin people, not the Huron.
Tuscarora from six nations on the grad river, Canada ❤️ Nyah:wen for this lesson!
Thanks for the video - I was glad to hear Haudenosaunee over and over so I could nail the pronunciation- I wanted to get it right
Same!! I was having a hard time finding a video with a good pronunciation to get it right :)
That's why I came to this video too.
Here now because my 9yo is learning in school...so happy this is not only a conversation but it’s actually being taught! Thank you so much!!
I don't remember where I read it, but I was under the impression that "Iroquois" was the name given to the Haudenosaunee by their rivals (Hurons, etc)--and the French fur traders/English settlers used this name b/c the Haudenosaunee were first introduced to them by their third-party Iroquois name. Not sure how accurate that is. But Iroquois didn't derive from the English from my limited research. Would be fascinated if someone with more knowledge could weigh in on this.
What I remember hearing is it was the word "Iroqu", which is Algonquin for "rattlesnake", with the "-ois" added on by the French.
I’m Haudenosaunee myself from Canada and what I was told is that “Iroquois” is a derogatory term given to us by the French meaning “snake-eaters” so we obviously prefer to go by our traditional name of Haudenosaunee instead
This is true...I was going to make the comment as well. I was pretty surprised when she said that like wow alot of important history lost right there. Not sure why is it lost in this video though? It's supposed to be revealing history
@@Zaycream21 yeah not sure why they didn’t mention that either.. maybe because the video is 8 years old? Some people have just learned this recently. Or some people that are even 100% native might not know a lot about their culture if they went to Residential Schools (Canada) or Boarding Schools they were called in the US
@@BB29 the knowledge has always existed and if you don't have the knowledge,don't make a video posing that you do. That's my point. It's the same as colonizers teaching their version of history. 8 years ago the information was there. The name itself sounds French; it's pretty obvious.
It was the French rather than the English who first made contact with the Haudenosaunee.
She said "one of the first" not the absolute first
In fact sioux and iroquois are french
Wonderful video, I’ve returned to this again and again. I wish there were more such thoughtful, meaningful and relevant things posted... thanks so much for sharing✌🏻
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One side of my family has been here since the 1640s. I'm of mostly British Isles descent, but a second cousin's husband did a very detailed genaeology of the family and discovered that we have Haudensaunee ancestry. I have a great uncle who looks Indigenous, yet is of mostly Scottish-Irish descent, my grandmother looked Indigenous as well, as does my aunt. In the genaeology, he found ancestors that were Hautensaunee and some that were from the other Five Nations, mostly Mohawk. As a 10th or 11th generation Canadian on that side, I'm so honoured to have First Nations ancestry. I'm not religious, but spiritual and I've been identifying most with the sheer beauty of Indigenous spirituality. I first learnt about it from an Oneida sergeant when I served in the army. That was many years ago. I'm blessed to have Indigenous ancestry and Canada is blessed to have our Indigenous peoples. We wouldn't exist without them and Canadians everywhere need to learn of the beauty of the different Nations' cultures.
My son and I are learning about these specific native Americans now. Native Americans are our favorite topic in history.
I wish this is how I was taught about the haudenousaunee in school :( we were taught about the iriquois confederacy, thank you for talking about how you identify, that’s so much more important than the history books
What a lovely explanation by a proud person to a proud person of the future.
I love the Haudenossaunee. Their flag I like a lot also!
thanks for helping me on my homework
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this video is.. GREAT!!! thank you! i enjoyed learning about it!
I grew up on the stories of the Onondaga. I am not one but I love hearing the tales of Hiawatha.
Thank you so much for this.
I am so glad to find it and watch it and learn. :)
Second year of teaching Haudenosaunee literature in my English class. Love it so much
This is a very beautiful video
Thank you for sharing with all of us. With most respect to all .
Thank you for this video! I will be adding it to my classroom.
Grateful for the clarity on preferred names and help with pronunciation!
I am saving this to show to classes I may teach.
I really love this video. Thank you, so much for all of this information. We should embrace every person and their cultures. Who are we without our ancestors?
Lovely presentation, thankyou
That was great, learned so much. Just to add what I learned not too long ago in my Native American culture class at the college:
*From An Introduction to Native North America, third edition by Mark Q. Sutton, p. 293 "The term Iroquois seems to have originated from the French use of a Basque word meaning."
*The Tuscarora joined later and never always fit in 100%.
My ancestors are Mohawk on my father’s side. My great grandmother is half Mohawk. There seems to be very little info out there when trying to research. I really wish the indians would help direct us with this. I tried to contact the St. Regis Mohawks in NY, but they never replied. It’s not easy. But I never got to know my father’s side. Breaks my heart.
Mohawks were cannibals
It's not "Indian", it's Indigenous Peoples, First Nations or if you follow the teachings of John Snake, Original Peoples.
@@mistystorythyme2452 lol are you dumb? Were is a past tense, doesn't mean something in the past doesnt exist in the present.
@@valenesco45 I am slightly dumb. That is why I continue to learn to become intelligent. But enough about me.
@@mistystorythyme2452 I dont think you're stupid, but I do think a lot of americans, natives included, are brainwashed by ridiculous political agenda that tend to ignore real historical facts and rewrite history so that one side is seen as good and the other side as bad. They keep telling you that the european colonists (named as whites, as if the color of the skin matters more than the cultural aspects) were pure evil while the natives were totally peaceful, while the reality (the real history) is that both were cruel and greedy in a way or another and were only moved by personal interests instead of working together to find a compromise that could benefit each other. This is the human kind. Humans act the same way no matter where they come from, no matter the culture or the ethnicity.
Much respect and love for a powerful and beautiful people! ✊
What a wonderful lady. Thank you.
I Have heard the name Iroquoi was used as a bad "label" when the French seeded it off the word irinakhoiw (Black Snake) from the Huron language family,, The French were unable to pronounce this word correctly and mangled it into Iroquois, they then seeded that "not so nice" identity to other cultures and used that name to represent the Six nations, Are the roots of this history true ? we only use Haudenosaunee because of this..
There is no such thing as a "Huron language family". The language family of which the Wendat(Huron) language is from, is the Iroquoian language family.
@@emilefrenette9325 understood with the term Heron language family , but the name "Iroquoian" is also from the same source, we "labeled" there language "Iroquoian" is that what there people call it ?
I've been told we were called snakes in the grass,because of our ability to hide in the fields .Than stand and attack as the enemy was amongst us.
Therefore the name.
On'yota'aka ,Rain Maker!!
@@rainmakerii2610 The deeper concern is the underlying word origin's burred within labeling language our people use within dialog of our common expression language that is tied to roots with hidden meaning .. The word Free'Dom as one such example . my concerns reflect upon a topic Indigenous historian Steven Newcomb brought up in this context ,, th-cam.com/video/aRgcLfiew5I/w-d-xo.html these underlying layers and there impacts are of deep concern. The lifes work of indigenous leader Jake Swamp and his shared concern's as well as the source examples of how the Haudenosaunee nations where able to internally address there own inter-tribal conflicts in humble recognition represent through there example expression a layer that can drive a lot of deep questions upon the roots and influences of our own institutions and there impacts today..
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It's history,and I know of it but don't live it.I can forgive past wrongs ,it's about my children and their future, for me.
As Chief Joseph said,"It does not matter who your grandfather was, it's what his grandchildren will be"
This is how history used to be taught, from the elder generation to the new. As an upstate New Yorker born and raised i am proud to live among such an honorable and courageous people, my brothers and sisters, as Keepers of the Western door. Haudenosaunee.
Thank you for sharing this beautiful and important content.
What symbolism, The Onondaga's were the center of the Haudenosaunee six nations, yet Onondaga Lake was polluted by White owned Industry Allied Chemical etc. and kept it polluted for almost 100 years. There has been an effort to clean the most polluted Lake in the US over the last several years. and was recently declared cleaned. The Onondaga's feel that they took shortcuts by burying debris and pollution at the bottom of the lake under aggregates and clay and will not accept the Lake as once again pristine and pure.
Thank you! This was a really informative video
I think it's quite impressive the Tuscarora first migrated from Carolina to upstate New York before moving with the other Five Nations to Ontario.
I'm a direct descendent of a Mohawk tribe member, her name was Mary Brant, she was my 5X Great Grandmother. she was a wife of William Johnson who was my 5X Great Grandfather.
Haudenosaunee just sounds nicer. Been using it ever since I first heard it because it just rolls of the tongue. Respectful and pleasing to the ear? Yes please. I feel like as someone who grew up in the NYS education system we spent a lot of time learning about the Haudenosaunee in school (I still remember making a longhouse diorama for class) but I'd have loved if we could have had an actual representative come and talk about it instead of the watered down version we get (though admittedly it's much better than other states from what I've seen others share).
My great grandmother was said to be Iroquois or haudenasaunee but the she was considered no a person worthy of a name. We on knew her by what they called her, Indian squaw.
Now that I’m an adult, I hate that I never learned the beautiful indigenous American history that spanned thousands of years on this continent, but rather the short history of European-American history, as if history only started with them, and I hate that European-American history was cast in a light of admiration than what it truly was: corruption.
It should be pointed out the Algonquin told the invaders that the Haudenosaunee were Iroquois, which means snake.
There are at least two other hypotheses of the origin of the apellation (also from Basque "hilikoa" = "killers"), but in any case it was first the French language where the name Iroquois (with its spelling) took hold. From there only to English ...
That’s not true the French asked the Algonquin what the haudenosaunee were called and they told them Iroquois in Algonquin it’s an insult
Yeah ok. Just ask the foreigners. Lmao.
@@brucedub1 Iroquois for the Algonquians means "rattlesnakes"
Yeah the Algonquin speaking tribes did not like them since the Iroquois were very predatory and militaristic as seen by their destruction of the Huron.
This was way too short! I wanted to hear more about each Nation! 😃
Yeah but.... In my ´Mohawk' language, the word ´Mohawk' means ´man eater'.
So... Akwesanaronon is a better word. Or even Kaniekeha. But I'll be damned if this video isn't edumacational.
There are many names for the 'Mohawks' given the territory they are in. In Quebec alone, the people call themselves by different names depending on where they are from. For example: Ahkwesásne, Kahnawà꞉ke, etc. Each name means something different. I find it all fascinating. We are always taught in school that Indigenous peoples are terrifying, but when you translate their community names, you see that they are not at all scary.
I am mixed with European and Mi'kmaq heritage. Technically, I'd be Métis... but anyway. It always annoyed me whenever I heard my school teachers refer to some First Nations by their Europeanized names. It's not difficult to call them by what they want to be called. There are pronunciation guides in some history textbooks. However, English speaking Canada doesn't care much about anything but English-Canadian history...
Very cool video!
"quois" is a French way of spelling that Coy sound ad is a Suffix for nation or peoples. Iike in English *ISH* i,e English Scottish Irish. a bit.
Looking into it. A Frenchman Samuel de Champlain was the first one to write down the word in a diary of his travels. Or first known written version.
This is great, thank you!!
My great(x4) grandmother (according to my family’s tree) was a princess in the tribe and she married a French soldier to help create peace and then two generations back the French in my family moved to America for the American dream. My mother and grandmother and great grandmother carried our native traditions down to me. As an adult I’m seeking more knowledge on my past culture, but I’m very “white washed” the native in my blood is thin and very little. I feel like it is kind of wrong for me to try and continue the culture without appearing native.. I love the culture and it feels like home to practice but I feel like I’m taking culture that’s not mine because I’m not visibly native
Iroquois word comes from the term Yarahkwa in Kaniénke'ha:ka.
I will no longer use the term Iroquois I will use and tell others about the true name for this Nation. Haudenosaunee !!
aoe3 taught me well bois
Thank you! I understood the name Iroquois was French.
thank you, soo much.
In recognition and respect of ,, The people who are --> "building" the Long house .. , a lot of the words used to "recognize" first nation peoples woven within our culture have some rather dark roots we are all unaware of. Most of the textbooks used in our schools "Seed" these references without any thought as to that words source meaning.. I Was taught the word "iroquois" orignated from French Colonizer "Samual De Champlain" applying his French twist on a word he heard Algonquin speaking peoples use .. there was a history of conflict betwean those two nations.
Solid information.
Thank you!!
this is good to teach
I am part of a family iroquoi
Iroquois mean snake people by the way
Omar Contreras my mother is Iroquois but my father is Mexican and I have Fight with the Mexican because of that
@@jessejacobs8751 There are some Haudenosaunee people that call themselves Iroquois. However, it doesn't mean snake people. It's a sort of bastardization of the French-Mi'kmaq word for real snakes, I believe. I could be wrong about the word. The French in the 16th and 17th centuries were integrating into the Indigenous communities with many of the French settlers being fluent or learning how to be fluent in the Indigenous languages spoken by the Haudenosaunee people, etc.
I don't know how accurate I am. It could be that the French bastardized the word from another language. However, the only site I have been able to find any kind of information on that talks about this is one that doesn't cite their sources. Highly problematic when trying to find references.
Nice I like this.Some knowledge comes from schools.Best knowledge comes from people.Just always seek knowledge.Signed GRUMPA
Isn’t the word Iroquois a French word and not an English word as you say in this video?
The gate keepers (Seneca & Mohawk) did not just "welcome." Gate keepers keep out the bad and let in the good. They defended the longhouse.
Haudenosaunee culture and history is so badass
That was so cool.
My mother told me that my father his mother. But her sister is a indigenous Ecuadorian Indian but I donot know if I have it or not
Iroquois is pure french, i believe the English called the Haudenosaunee the five nations
Says who??? The Irish??? Lol.
@@brucedub1 just google iroquois etymology
@@boomerzoomerfigureitout3806 so Google is the thuth huh... Pfft. Get with real ones then.
@@brucedub1 you have demonstrated that your laziness exceeds your ignorance.
Great video :) Miigwech
Our government was fashioned after these people's ideas of working together for the people! By the people.
Beautiful wise woman
uhh i came here from online school. anybody else?
yup
native folk are beautiful people, their heritage should be preserved, to allow their culture to vanish would be a crime
Ok, just watching this video, really good I do not understand the thumbs down!smh
trees.
billybutt69 yes trees
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Love this
Did she say that there is Six separate Nations with the Tuscarora being furthest to the West and that Seneca were the keepers of the Western door. That everything coming from the West has to come through Seneca and not from the further to the west Tuscarora Nation?
Sonny Manos the Tuscarora were adopted into the Council after they fled North Carolina from the white settlers
Is that right Kerri Elderbroom? So the women of the Five Nations welcomed the additional clans that came with the Tuscarora's and made the amendment to the wampum of the Five Sister's? The Five Nations only have 8 Constitutionally installed clans with fires, The Tuscarora brought 4 additional outside clans such as sand turtle, sandpiper, ball, and eel clans! These 4 clans have absolutely no wampum into the wampum of the five sisters, Nor did the amendment happen to the Hiawatha wampum, the Circle wampum, and the Unity of Clans wampum!
I have Mohawk on both sides of my parents lineage.
That’s used to be my teach wow :/ I forgot a lot about my teacher’s welp mostly cus I Finished
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I came here as in the game (Age of Empires 3 Definitive Edition) the developers changed the name Iroquois to Haudenosaunee.
I'm not sure, but i felt that from the video I didn't get if the term "Iroquois" is bad or offensive, or if the change was implemented to the game out of respect. Could you help me out, please?
Basically, Iroquois is a French mispronunciation of an Algonquin word which means "real snakes." It was used as an insult to the Haudenosaunee, since them and the Algonquins were enemies at the time.
The woman is a great representative of how they were, in that she is smart and was looked upon for advice. The child's well mannered behavior is not a representative of the children.
dshreve34 you know what's funny that my math tutor
The Iroquois (/ˈɪrəkwɔɪ/ or /ˈɪrəkwɑː/) or Haudenosaunee (/ˈhoʊdənoʊˈʃoʊni/;[2] "People of the Longhouse") are a historically powerful northeast Native American confederacy in North America. They were known during the colonial years to the French as the Iroquois League, and later as the Iroquois Confederacy, and to the English as the Five Nations, comprising the Mohawk, Onondaga, Oneida, Cayuga, and Seneca. After 1722, they accepted the Tuscarora people from the Southeast into their confederacy, as they were also Iroquoian-speaking, and became known as the Six Nations--wikipedia
And you copying and pasting from Wikipedia is valid because....?
If you live in North America, we both know that many of the Indigenous peoples have different names that they call themselves when compared to the names that Europeans gave to them. They may have adapted to the name and call themselves that now, but back in the 16th and 17th centuries, they wouldn't have called themselves that.
It's ridiculous that you're trying to invalidate a group of people by copying and pasting from Wikipedia, knowing that 1. that shit can be edited by anyone and 2. Wikipedia is not a valid source of information.
That girl seems so cute
That's right this Land belongs to Mayans all kinds of Indian mexican
My teacher watched this, Ms.Shah
Same
@@MasonLeBrohnson25 Not me. I don't have a teacher. I'm old.
who else is here for online school
I have this for hw LMAO
I refuse to believe that that’s actually SYDNEY WTF
senorjerome do you know her or something
Mohinder Dhillon yes
Im a 1/16th cayuga not much in me but some
i would love too see that movie about the girl who got pregnant from thunder sky and ha hi kid "northern cree also made a song called "driving me crazy " hmmm anybody wanna put it on TH-cam plzw
Search "thunder in love with corn row women" The example is from the series of story's in the film DreamKeeper and the full unaltered story is there,, only an elder can vouch for how authentically it relates to the oral tradition passed down original story however ..
why you don't speak your native language?
Sakokli',wasohndow hunh?
Lol, Onondaga and Mohawk are the only 2 I know, and I know Mohawk becouse of the hairstyle
Leave it to the English to hose up a name. Beijing becomes Peking. Mumbai becomes Bombay. I won't begin to comment on what they call some Spanish cities here in Colorado.
The US co-opted it's bicameral legislature from the Haudenosaunee, but you already knew that.
the name is actually French not English. The French were the first Europeans to make contact with the Iroquois Confederacy.
@@carlosmedina1281 Good point! I stand corrected.
does someone want to give me their notes for this
Peace, thank you