What did we actually learn from Arsenal vs Tottenham?

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  • @football.cinema.
    @football.cinema. ปีที่แล้ว +1190

    The fact that this Spurs team has made this much progress in just 6 games is frightening.

    • @yangzixiang6605
      @yangzixiang6605 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      yea..

    • @DeterminedFC
      @DeterminedFC ปีที่แล้ว +6

      lol bad take

    • @chainsawman-ilia
      @chainsawman-ilia ปีที่แล้ว +169

      blind hater@@DeterminedFC

    • @pucs82
      @pucs82 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      Is it frightening? Too early to say. Teams just haven’t figured them out yet. Will be impressed if they keep this up through GW 20

    • @tomyates2551
      @tomyates2551 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      But it’s not like they were good at whatever Conte was trying to get them to do. So, it’s not like they were set in any ways.

  • @musicoruu
    @musicoruu ปีที่แล้ว +241

    Incoming ‘I don’t support Spurs but I really like Ange’ comments

    • @Antonio-hb8rd
      @Antonio-hb8rd ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "hE ElLs iT LikE IT iS"

    • @chainsawman-ilia
      @chainsawman-ilia ปีที่แล้ว +4

      he is awesome

    • @ballsballsballs3617
      @ballsballsballs3617 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      U saying that as if u aren’t thinking the same thing lol

    • @PEROgamer25-pk7xm
      @PEROgamer25-pk7xm ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I know. I like that some people also think like me and predict the comment section or reply section of the video or comment. It's kinda easy if you are a TH-cam veteran and went into alot. Especially predicting Messi vs Ronaldo fights with there bad nicknames 😂

    • @colouredIncognito
      @colouredIncognito ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@PEROgamer25-pk7xm'youtube veteran' 😂😂😂

  • @XPANDORO
    @XPANDORO ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Son is just a different killer

  • @RaphaelFellowes
    @RaphaelFellowes ปีที่แล้ว +294

    As an Arsenal fan, very impressed by Tottenham. Bissouma was phenomenal and Kulesevski and Son typically excellent. Hopefully this result doesn’t hurt our season too much.

    • @steviebob3119
      @steviebob3119 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hfn3778 you mustve not watched the first half at all then if thats the case. best player on the pitch.

    • @Jonifico
      @Jonifico ปีที่แล้ว +14

      With the way Man City are playing, Champions League football is the only realistic goal.

    • @crazydragon8-t
      @crazydragon8-t ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​​@@JonificoRodri red card will cause problems. .. City literally cannot afford to drop any points...Tot, Brighton, Arsenal and Liverpool all are getting momentum.. And City haven't played any of the Top 6..

    • @KM-dd1cr
      @KM-dd1cr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jonifico yep besides man city there isn't really anyone I would not back arsenal against. Maybe if bayern find their footing or barcelona sustain their current form. Other than that I think the CL is more realistic

    • @finding_aether
      @finding_aether ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@crazydragon8-tthis season looks promising for drama.... We may get a 3 horse race even.. been some time since the last one.

  • @Arejen03
    @Arejen03 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    Spurs went from "its the history of Tottenham" to "Damn Tottenham is cooking this year"

    • @judsonbaker8128
      @judsonbaker8128 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      It’s the future of the Tottenham

    • @silvesta5027
      @silvesta5027 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s amazing that both Mourinho and Conte utterly, UTTERLY failed at Spurs with their negative defensive football. But Ange’s attacking football, (like Poch before him) is getting a tune out of Spurs

  • @9g821
    @9g821 ปีที่แล้ว +609

    Bissouma is unbelievable. Immune to being pressed on and looks like a new age Dembele that they've missed for years

    • @tonylipsmire5918
      @tonylipsmire5918 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      He had a pretty poor match honestly. Coughed up the ball in and around his box several times handing arsenal huge chances

    • @ballsballsballs3617
      @ballsballsballs3617 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@tonylipsmire5918well every other match he’s been a top 3 players on the pitch. Pogba type of composure on the ball

    • @tonylipsmire5918
      @tonylipsmire5918 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ballsballsballs3617I agree, this video is kinda about one match though

    • @QuotidianStupidity
      @QuotidianStupidity ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure any Pogba comparison is a flattering one - hes a far more valuable player because he makes the team better, rather than having to build a team around him. @@ballsballsballs3617

    • @safebans1369
      @safebans1369 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@tonylipsmire5918 I didn't watch the game but surely more of the credit there goes to Arsenal's pressing which we all know is world class

  • @Zakaria03-mass
    @Zakaria03-mass ปีที่แล้ว +250

    I am not a Spurs fan , but i really love the Tottenham team this season they are very fun to watch , and the Son Maddison is the best Duo this season

    • @otterinari2390
      @otterinari2390 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I'm a Spurs fan, but I really love the Tottenham team this season

    • @raivisr1618
      @raivisr1618 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Maddi-Son!

    • @zosiazaremba7479
      @zosiazaremba7479 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'm not even a Premier League fan, but there's something about this new Tottenham that makes them so fun to watch. And their players are extremely likable, especially Sonny and Maddison ❤

    • @Tvtvtvtvttv
      @Tvtvtvtvttv ปีที่แล้ว +3

      SonisMadd

    • @TooDarnSoulful
      @TooDarnSoulful ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@zosiazaremba7479 Guys a subtle reminder this is all down to ANGE, he plays his way and it is good to watch, we saw similar at Celtic.

  • @aquamnk30
    @aquamnk30 ปีที่แล้ว +349

    Both teams’ strikers had a couple of chances. Difference was Jesus was a decent player while Son was a worldclass finisher.

    • @chomalen
      @chomalen ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Could really do with a world class finsher... Osimhen comes to mind.
      Nketiah doesn't have more in his game. Folarin deserved a chance.
      Jesus deserves more for his pressing and work-rate alone. He needs another 6-12 months to show his true ability (like Odegaard neeeded). Does need to manage his emotions better tho...

    • @michaelsheppard5383
      @michaelsheppard5383 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Seeing Balogun miss two penalties in a game last week made me think Arteta knew something we didnt

    • @karmaascendant3936
      @karmaascendant3936 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@chomalenwhat is Arteta going to suddenly unveil that Pep couldn’t? As a city fan this is what Jesus is. Great all round player but not a killer in the way Aguero was and Haaland and Alvarez are now. That’s why the season expectation for Jesus in the prem is 15 goals

    • @chomalen
      @chomalen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@karmaascendant3936 I dont't think he is Mbappe or Haaland quality. He is 15-20 goals a season but offers more in terms of tracking and defending, contributions... in an Arsenal team that (at least last year) distributed goals through the team.
      We lacked killer instinct then and we are now paying for it. The way we used to close shop or not aim to put 4, 5 past teams last year bothered me.... doesn't allow the team to build confidence, bordering on arrogance, which you need.

    • @bobbyalexander8592
      @bobbyalexander8592 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@chomalen Odegaard's true ability was on display last night. Bloke's terrifying

  • @awesimo4684
    @awesimo4684 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    One thing I don't see being mentioned is Raya's long balls were losing possession an awful lot. Didn't seem to be working. Then again, given how good Arsenal's high press was, the tactic could be just to give Spurs the ball in their own 3rd, then press.

    • @alexsmith6322
      @alexsmith6322 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Who do we even have to receive a long ball when havertz isn’t on the pitch? There is no target, it’s pretty obvious why it didn’t work

    • @bigrandomun9267
      @bigrandomun9267 ปีที่แล้ว

      Perhaps it would’ve worked if Raya could play balls behind the back-line but he didn’t seem able to.

    • @thatguy-notsuraj-6843
      @thatguy-notsuraj-6843 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      ​@bigrandomun9267 that Spurs back line was quick. They weren't getting beat to *any* balls in behind, especially on their left.

    • @Zitrolena
      @Zitrolena ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah his long passes were pretty disappointing to be honest

    • @Wheeznbreezn
      @Wheeznbreezn ปีที่แล้ว +3

      To be fair he kicked at 65% which is still higher than ramsdale last season average of 63%. I read that over the 3 games raya has kicked long at 82%

  • @Chase66279
    @Chase66279 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Imagine if Bentancur comes back to full power as well and Ange gets a couple transfer windows. Spurs have a lot of potential.

    • @kunbifusion
      @kunbifusion ปีที่แล้ว

      After 6 games? Weren’t spurs on top of the league after 10 games with a new coach a few years ago

  • @mikesingh6099
    @mikesingh6099 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Man this is what rivalry matches are suppose to be! So much drama and excitement, hopefully more to come. Happy to have football back!

  • @MylesB93-
    @MylesB93- ปีที่แล้ว +34

    We learned that Bissouma is a cheat code

  • @vikvaughn
    @vikvaughn ปีที่แล้ว +247

    The amount of disrespect some of these spurs players got in comined elevens and general pre game banter, just to outplay arsenal is quite poetic

    • @TooDarnSoulful
      @TooDarnSoulful ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Paul Merson told us all 5-0 to Arsenal 🙃🤣

    • @pauljohnware
      @pauljohnware ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@TooDarnSoulful Paul Merson was better off *on* the sauce. Despite 750mil spending, Arsenal's depth is shocking. Viera, Havertz, Jorginho is a scarily lightweight midfield. They'll struggle for top 4 this season.

    • @TheOvieShow
      @TheOvieShow ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Oh come on mate. It was a stale game the majority of the time. Spurs offense was better but our defence was better even with Jorgi's mistake. If either Martinelli or Trossard were in, I'd bet on a different outcome. But no need to lose sleep over a game. It's a long season

    • @dennisgichohi5392
      @dennisgichohi5392 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Outplayed ?????it was a draw

    • @edsonbwalya382
      @edsonbwalya382 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      At 35 minutes spurs had three touches in the opp box and arsenal had 19 . You call that being outplayed ? If Arsenal took their chances , the game could have been over in the first half

  • @QT5656
    @QT5656 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Udogie is fast becoming one of the best left backs in the world.

  • @hungchoonghow5857
    @hungchoonghow5857 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Heung-min SON.
    RicharliSON.
    MaddiSON.
    Brennan JohnSON.
    Spurs has too many good sons.

  • @nands111
    @nands111 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Son, Jesus and Nketiah all robbed the ball and went through on goal. The difference was Son actually finishing his chance. Simply an alternative outcome from those three chances alone would change the whole discourse and the narrative of our analysis of Ange ball and Arteta ball. It's a game of fine margins.

    • @alexsmith6322
      @alexsmith6322 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Exactly lol. People are like SPURS ARE BETTER! ARSENAL ARE WORSE! Literally this game hinged on Declan rice getting hurt and Jorginho messing up lmao. That’s it. The last 30 mins both teams were completely spent

    • @Steveck072
      @Steveck072 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Son is known for being super clinical - Jesus has always been wasteful - One of the reasons Pep was ok to sell him to Arsenal. No idea about Eddie but he’s not good enuf to be the starting No 9 for a title challenging side. Arsenal need a clinical 20+ goal a season striker.

    • @nikhilhanji9311
      @nikhilhanji9311 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Steveck072nope liverpool did it with firmino, you just need two either side to bang them in, Martinelli is our Son/Mané type and he was out and his back up in Trossard was out too

    • @eleonarcrimson858
      @eleonarcrimson858 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Did you watch the video on mute?

    • @zingrock
      @zingrock ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Did you watch this video? The difference wasn't simply about Son finishing his chance. Arsenal were unable to execute their build-up play, whilst Spurs were more successful.

  • @afc4life_uk
    @afc4life_uk ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Always love these videos, just a couple of points:
    1. Not sure if the awkward moments between JJ Bull and Jon Mackenzie are rehersed or real, but it's funny as hell. One day I'm expecting John to get up and punch JJ in the face 😂
    2. Would love one of these videos on classic teams of the past, for example the Arsenal Invincibles when they played Manchester United? Would be fascinating to see what tactical approaches Arsene Wenger and Alex Ferguson implemented back then.

  • @bigrandomun9267
    @bigrandomun9267 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    The idea of Spurs potentially getting Kvaratshkelia (if Napoli don’t win anything this season) in this system is absolutely terrifying. Perfect player on both sides of the pitch who is electric and aggressive in getting to the by-line and beating the fullback 1v1, it would be ridiculous to see actually happen.

    • @buch0300
      @buch0300 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Has he been linked with spurs?

    • @NathanDaldry
      @NathanDaldry ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@buch0300 Don't think so. But the more supporters that spot that he'd be a great fit in this Spurs team the more likely it is that someone within the hierarchy at Spurs is also thinking the same.

    • @WinWingWin
      @WinWingWin ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Would love that, and there were brief links before he joined Napoli but he’s going to be too expensive now

    • @bigrandomun9267
      @bigrandomun9267 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@WinWingWin not that much. Rumoured price 77-98 million.

    • @bigrandomun9267
      @bigrandomun9267 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@buch0300 before this season and before Kane left, Kvaratshkelia was rumoured if Son left the club. But now, he’s apparently a fan of Ange’s play style and he fits the team on both sides at RW and LW. Also, if Napoli don’t win anything, he might entertain the idea of a move to a top 4 Prem team.

  • @vwmusicplaylist1935
    @vwmusicplaylist1935 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Maddison and Son were amazing

  • @michaelfraser1073
    @michaelfraser1073 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Destiny Udogie is brilliant. Kid's only 20, hasn't played in the Premier League before, and is used to playing as a wing-back. He's adapted perfectly.

    • @alexsmith6322
      @alexsmith6322 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Are you actually serious? Saka shredded him the entire game 😂 I’m not even saying he’s bad because that’s what saka does but that’s such a weird comment specifically in relation to this match

    • @pauljohnware
      @pauljohnware ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Best Italian LB since Maldini. Man is going to have an incredible career. I'll enjoy him at Spurs while it lasts.

    • @debm09
      @debm09 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      ​@@alexsmith6322delusional arsenal fan 😂😂

    • @michaelfraser1073
      @michaelfraser1073 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only thing Saka managed to shred was his own reputation after he tried to do Maddison's celebration and then got rinsed by him.@@alexsmith6322

    • @TheOvieShow
      @TheOvieShow ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@debm09 Yea no mate, Udogie was outclassed. He's got a good future but no need to blow things out of proportion.

  • @andyhills9972
    @andyhills9972 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Who else pauses the video to see what title they give themselves today

  • @JibbaJabber
    @JibbaJabber ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Son was on fire! And he set the rest of the team alight🔥🔥🔥🔥
    Arsenal crisped up like a gammon😅

  • @gijoe678
    @gijoe678 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Great analysis. Arsenal's new build up approach was designed with Timber in mind. Zinchencko is not the right fit for that strategy. Different strengths. This will get better as the season progresses.

    • @jdinero5226
      @jdinero5226 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Such a shame its gonna be 5 or so dreadful months without him

    • @jjsmthr
      @jjsmthr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Timber is RB. He's supposed to replace White, not Zinchenko.

    • @jacobalexander4167
      @jacobalexander4167 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's just not true

    • @gijoe678
      @gijoe678 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jjsmthr he played as a LB against Forest and in the Community Shield.

    • @jjsmthr
      @jjsmthr ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gijoe678 because Zinchenko was injured.

  • @timokaaarp7779
    @timokaaarp7779 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It's a shame Spurs didn't go full Angeball until after first half hour, and losing Maddison was a blow - I think Spurs would have won had he stayed on the pitch.

    • @laislabonita
      @laislabonita ปีที่แล้ว

      Spurs couldn’t play full Angeball because Arsenal suffocated them. That said Spurs did well to respond to Arsenal going ahead each time.
      Spurs ability to create numbers centrally saved them on the day. That and Arsenal being wasteful prevented Spurs from being hammered at the Emirates.
      I expect Ange to play longer in the second leg. Arsenal won’t miss like the did if they press high again next time

  • @sadstefig
    @sadstefig ปีที่แล้ว +47

    17:25 we were so close to greatness in this moment 😭

    • @abdulrafay9872
      @abdulrafay9872 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah it was a good chance but we were unlucky

    • @sadstefig
      @sadstefig ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@abdulrafay9872 son hattrick, first win at emirates in 13 years... it was a good performance regardless but I can't stop thinking about it 😢

    • @JibbaJabber
      @JibbaJabber ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You know dem way der bruv!

  • @MrRodzilla
    @MrRodzilla ปีที่แล้ว +52

    we learned that a studs up full fledged legbreaker attempt on the gk is not a red card

    • @AshaD2345
      @AshaD2345 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Studs up 🤣

    • @blazer7731
      @blazer7731 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just like a handball denying an on target shot is not a red card

    • @MrRodzilla
      @MrRodzilla ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@blazer7731 a deliberate handball is, not one for a metre away

    • @arvin9425
      @arvin9425 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well his studs didn't hit vicario did it

    • @darrenjohn8524
      @darrenjohn8524 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@blazer7731Only a disingenuous person will say that. Learn the difference between intentional and unintentional 🤣🤣.

  • @scottwallbank4794
    @scottwallbank4794 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Only just discovered this channel. Awesome analysis, really interesting.

  • @TheLukeguy7
    @TheLukeguy7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love these 2 especially the Scottish guy! He’s got a great accent, is funny and presents really well. Great work both.

  • @Tronjheimr
    @Tronjheimr ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The fact that the same hand ball scenario with the same player can resulting in two different results (pen vs no pen) is enough to show how bad the refereeing in EPL.

  • @MegaXjoel
    @MegaXjoel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These videos are by far my favourite at the moment!

  • @SP008
    @SP008 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    JJ loves Udogie and Van de Ven. Man knows ball ⚽

  • @sammy0boi
    @sammy0boi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would love to see a video about the data analytics, how the data is collected and accessed and how the visualizations are made - always impressed by the quality of the data but also how it’s presented so well visually.

  • @clobbopus_used_beat
    @clobbopus_used_beat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will always watch a video with Jon and JJ

  • @2tallGamingMedia
    @2tallGamingMedia ปีที่แล้ว +27

    What we learnt is that arsenal fans still haven’t learnt

  • @nthoj6510
    @nthoj6510 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this!!! Keep them coming!!!!

  • @alexsmith6322
    @alexsmith6322 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    They’ll try to make this analysis tactical when it’s so abundantly obvious what happened in this game.
    Arsenal came out on 3 scoops of pre workout and blew their entire load in the first 25 minutes of the match. This led to multiple players getting injured and Arteta outsmarting himself. Arsenal aren’t worse: Declan rice got hurt, and Jorginho made a mistake that cost us the win. That’s literally all that happened. In the last 30 mins (40 with stoppage) both teams were completely spent. No energy left at all. Ben white is the only player for arsenal that can play at that ridiculous pace for the entire game. We went too hard in the first 25 and it cost us and artetas subs were terrible

    • @scottwallbank4794
      @scottwallbank4794 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Accurate analysis. Arsenal were heavy on the press, with the majority of the early game in Spurs' third. Arsenal couldn't sustain those levels and Spurs came into the game in the last 10 minutes of the first half and had the stronger second half.

    • @roan9914
      @roan9914 ปีที่แล้ว

      their midfield really collapsed without Rice, Jorginho was awful, really why they should've kept Xhaka

    • @mashfnch30
      @mashfnch30 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The fact that the team can't execute the managers plan kind of does raise questions about their quality though. The first prerequisite for professional footballers at the top level is fitness. I thought the result was fair on the balance of play, it's just that Arsenal had a couple of fortunate moments that resulted in goals to balance out unfortunate moments such as the Jesus miss. The only real complaint I have about the game was the fact that Nketiah didnt get sent off because that was one of the most reckless challenges I've seen in the PL for a long time.

    • @alexprach
      @alexprach ปีที่แล้ว

      I think they probably went with this as they were low on energy after champions league game, but the probelm with Arteta is since he became manager is that he doesn't rotate, I just hope he just starts playing our bench in the smaller competitions else we will run out of pace at the end like last season.

    • @alexsmith6322
      @alexsmith6322 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mashfnch30I didn’t see it as a game plan thing tho, as in, I don’t think Arteta said “literally go all out and spend every ounce of energy you have.”
      I think it was just the environment and wanting to get one over spurs the players got a bit carried away and no player wanted to be the lazy one not pressing. It is literally impossible to maintain what arsenal did for the first 25 min of that game over a full 90 for any football team ever. It’s not a matter of fitness it’s a matter of mentality. It was a mistake of a young team. Not that it doesn’t still raise questions, as you said, it does (tho I don’t agree about what those questions are).
      But the question is NOT “are arsenal worse” like so many seem to be wanting desperately to believe. Jorginho is worse, yea for sure. As a team arsenal clearly are not though

  • @God_is_an_Atheist666
    @God_is_an_Atheist666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Van de Van was undoubtedly my man of the match, the guy had a perfect game.

  • @nateshshashank
    @nateshshashank ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If Arteta would have just sat back like other mid-table teams do against Arsenal, that would have definitely meant Plan-B for Ange & Co. Best way to beat Spurs is either be very good at pressing the center backs and/or pivots (and taking your chances) or just sit back and counter.

  • @EddieBaumgartner
    @EddieBaumgartner ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Any video ya do with Tottenham ill watch and drop a like. Love seeing my team get the praise!

  • @waggafletcher
    @waggafletcher ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What you are learning is that quality football managers exist beyond the Euro-Sth American bubble.

  • @montgomeryharr30
    @montgomeryharr30 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've been waiting for this video

  • @jackson857
    @jackson857 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Ange ball is great. Ange is the man.

  • @andronovm
    @andronovm ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great analysis lads, especially the point that Arsenal was struggling to progress through the central area. I noticed that Odegaard was receiving the ball far fewer times , and he is the most vital player who is critical in build-up from 2nd 1/3rd to final 1/3.... So Arteta has to work it out. And Jorginho was probably his attempt to change things... I am disappointed Kai Havertz is still struggling to integrate into the team playstyle and doesnt take initiative... Very worrying signals for Arsenal and fans

    • @abdiazizabdi6687
      @abdiazizabdi6687 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spurs just moved the ball in their own half 55% in Spurs zone while arsenal 55 % of the ball was attacking spurs half . Spurs spent the ball in arsenal zone 18 % and 27 % was midfield . Ange was smart the best defense was to keep the ball away arsenal and press very hard tactical to maintain 100 minutes it worked

    • @andronovm
      @andronovm ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abdiazizabdi6687 yea true , but as always in football, if Arsenal score 1-2 chances in the first 30 mins of the game when they pressed high and effectively. If Jesus scored 1 of his chances > would be 2-0 and the game would run differently…

  • @orinorio1
    @orinorio1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As people who are surprised at Spurs this season actually look at the Spurs team this season ? Romero - world cup winning CB. VDV- A cb that is regarded as one of the best young CB in football. Madders - PL experience has won the PL and FA cup. Bissuma - A player who many feel is one of the best Mid in the PL. Son - World class striker. Mixed among them is players who are very good players who can only get better. Moreover. Ange won the treble last season. He know has better players. Not saying Spurs will win the treble as they cant. Saying how their playing shouldn't be a surprised.

    • @jaysosaaa7975
      @jaysosaaa7975 ปีที่แล้ว

      maddison hasnt won the premier league

  • @oronsayepaul6709
    @oronsayepaul6709 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    dont compare Rodri to Rice theres big distiction between them

    • @DeterminedFC
      @DeterminedFC ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yeh rice can drive waY BETTER THEN RODRI AND RODRI CAN BUILD UP BETTER THEN RICE

    • @Antonio-hb8rd
      @Antonio-hb8rd ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rodri is way better

    • @silverhost9782
      @silverhost9782 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For sure, Rodri is much better at being sent off for choking out other players

    • @broman1429
      @broman1429 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@silverhost9782you do realize that was his first red card in his career 😂😂

    • @silverhost9782
      @silverhost9782 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@broman1429 and what a red it was. Man totally lost it, Rice could never be that needlessly angry loool

  • @atizzl3r257
    @atizzl3r257 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It’s crazy how big of a hole xhaka has left in our midfield 😔 it just shows that you should never taken anything for granted!

    • @God_is_an_Atheist666
      @God_is_an_Atheist666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You took him for Granit...Granit Xhaka

    • @ozlinator
      @ozlinator ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@God_is_an_Atheist666😂

  • @patrickbateman1660
    @patrickbateman1660 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Arteta has done amazing work but someone needs to come in amd take them to the next level

  • @anelevilakazi8467
    @anelevilakazi8467 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Anges only flaw was subbing out SON. He was too dialled in. Only needed 2 more chances
    😊

    • @WinWingWin
      @WinWingWin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Apparently both he and Maddison were a bit unwell before kick off

  • @kaijalen
    @kaijalen ปีที่แล้ว +11

    so happy to see micky and destiny getting their flowers after another couple of great games. especially given how difficultly udogie started

  • @zelandiart
    @zelandiart ปีที่แล้ว

    Arteta really have a big homework to sort out the midfield and the goal threat issue (which is closely interlinked with the way Arsenal playing). Kudos to spuds, Bissouma and Maddison are playing well for them. I still scratching my head of why Arteta choose Havertz instead of Maddison.

    • @abdiazizabdi6687
      @abdiazizabdi6687 ปีที่แล้ว

      Harverz is not bad he made big difference in second half by winning duels and off the ball movement which gave arsenal more ball possession

  • @rvoswald
    @rvoswald ปีที่แล้ว +1

    JJ cracks me up!

  • @nikobrown1990
    @nikobrown1990 ปีที่แล้ว

    For me this game really highlighted how much Arsenal miss Martinelli and Trossard. if both of our best left wingers are not available for selection then the only outlet we have is to Saka out on the right wing and that it too easy for an opponent to deal with. Having said that, Udogie had a good game, as did Bissouma and Maddison. Fair play to Spurs, they played very well.

  • @Steglasaurus
    @Steglasaurus ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It's funny how conclusive takes are of both Spurs and Arsenal after just 6 games. The truth lies somewhere in the middle. Spurs have rercuited very well in the summer with smart buys, they also are playing with a new system, manager and composition of players.
    We've seen it in the past, teams analyse and adapt and this will eventually happen with Spurs, have we seen many teams set a low block against Spurs? No, not really. That's the next step for what is looking like a brilliantly set up team for now and the future.
    Arsenal aren't as bad as the general consensus is. We saw City 'struggle' to figure their new system out at the start and its the same thing happening with Arsenal this season, if it can happen with the best team in the world, it shouldn't be a surprise that they're still a work in progress. What is evident is that despite their struggles, Arsenal have 14 points and are 'only' 6 points behind City and 4 behind title challenging Liverpool.
    Underlying data suggests that right now top 4 appears to be the teams mentioned above: Liverpool, City, Spurs and Arsenal in no particular order - let's see how things change by Christmas where teams drop off, or push on. The season is still early, guys!

    • @roan9914
      @roan9914 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ange has been known for breaking low blocks throughout his managerial career it's his forte

    • @ammarharith3067
      @ammarharith3067 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bro, have you forgotten the Sheffield United shambolic bust last week? 😂

    • @hilmer316
      @hilmer316 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Both Sheffield United and Brentford played a low block...

    • @Steglasaurus
      @Steglasaurus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @hilmer316 Thanks for calling out two instances where teams did! I never said no teams at all have, but there's a difference between what City face, for example, almost every game and other teams in the leagues cope with.
      All I am saying is, Spurs are doing well, very well but at some point they'll be hiccups as there are with all teams in their rebuild. It would be wrong to assume they've 'made it', with again only 6 games being in to his tenure.
      Sometimes you have to take a few steps back to truly move forward and it'll be interesting to see how they handle it.

    • @dennisgichohi5392
      @dennisgichohi5392 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roan9914 low blocks in Australian league and Scottish league is different to the prem

  • @mohammedcassim1816
    @mohammedcassim1816 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    What we can conclude is that arsenal will most likely not be challenging for a title at all
    Nowhere near city and Liverpool level this season so far.

    • @jamesmassin7982
      @jamesmassin7982 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Agreed, it’s typical that a team will drop off after a stronger then expected prior season. Like Liverpool did last season. But Tge Arsenal are still moving in the right direction, just not as much as last season.
      Expectations are top 4 and knock out stages of the CL.

    • @theamulas
      @theamulas ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jamesmassin7982 Feels like we're playing with 9 men in the outfield as well, Nketiah has felt invisible in the past two games. I don't think we'll get close to a PL title without an elite center-forward. We're relying on Odegard from outside the box, or Trossard to score us goals from the bench.

    • @Steveck072
      @Steveck072 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No one getting close to City - It’s ridiculous- No KDB = no problem apparently- ridiculous

    • @VilladsBk
      @VilladsBk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Too early to say, but I can’t deny that the last 6 seasons the top 2 had already been decided by gameweek 6

    • @jamesmassin7982
      @jamesmassin7982 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Steveck072 that’s what happens when you have the resources of an oil rich nation sponsoring your team as opposed to local communities. Modern football is plastic

  • @sihleduma8481
    @sihleduma8481 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sarrs been brilliant but when bentancur is back he must start in my opinion. The former struggled alittle in this derby lacking some experience in such a big away day.

    • @JibbaJabber
      @JibbaJabber ปีที่แล้ว

      He looked a bit leggy getting back as well. Maybe it's fitness or maybe he's just slow - either way could leave defence exposed.

  • @captainsmoke1612
    @captainsmoke1612 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    105m for a CDM that can't receive ffs! But according to english media he's the second coming of Zidane.

  • @robbbbb78
    @robbbbb78 ปีที่แล้ว

    That bit of dirt inside the white circle at 3:29 had me fruitlessly wiping my screen xD

  • @adityapurigoswami2626
    @adityapurigoswami2626 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Which software is being used for analysis here....

  • @guy4375
    @guy4375 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hang on!! Can you please clear up for me the Opta "attacking threat" graphic please, specifically for the first half. You say that this data is based on the attacking team having possession of the ball.......BUT this can't be because Tottenham had 61% possession!!! Thanks.

    • @kai12490
      @kai12490 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      IIRC, attacking threat is the possession a team has in the opponents final 3rd.

  • @JenksCoach
    @JenksCoach ปีที่แล้ว

    Lads can I ask what software your using? Thanks!

  • @oscarcastro9316
    @oscarcastro9316 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I think Spurs was the better team. They just need to improve on consistent aspects because Arsenal goals were an OG and a Penalty, things that Spurs could've managed better but the Spurs goal were genuinely created due offensive opportunities.

    • @heitkilian
      @heitkilian ปีที่แล้ว +3

      did you even see the second spurs goal? 😂

    • @abdullahibnmiah2986
      @abdullahibnmiah2986 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @heitkilian there's many of them saying this lol

    • @Ash-ve8hh
      @Ash-ve8hh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      by what metric exactly???

  • @RayinSD
    @RayinSD ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Scary to think that we haven’t even seen the Spurs ultimate Ange-ball form yet.

  • @perks9396
    @perks9396 ปีที่แล้ว

    JJ IS FINALLY BACKKKKKKKK

  • @anelevilakazi8467
    @anelevilakazi8467 ปีที่แล้ว

    We arent talking about ben. Ange made a good call, trust he's playing >40min every game till he starts from now

  • @TheFlyingEpergne
    @TheFlyingEpergne ปีที่แล้ว

    i rly like jj and jon together

  • @michaelgraham8191
    @michaelgraham8191 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Funniest part, to me, this looked like spurs worst performance this season aside from the game against brentford and maybe some moments in the Sheffield game.

  • @brucelee7782
    @brucelee7782 ปีที่แล้ว

    what happened to those after matches podcasts mann, I miss those

  • @Puckett.
    @Puckett. ปีที่แล้ว

    I won't pretend to understand how XG are calculated but seeing both sides have less expected goals then real goals is kind of surprising. Considering how many great chances there were that were saved. That Johnson shot that was palmed away by Raya I'd assume had to be a very high expected goal. and Spurs 2nd goal also was a pretty easy setup after the huge blunder by Havertz. so seeing Spurs only have 1.4 XG seems low. Arsenal's XG of 1.8 seems about right. the Penalty is always a full 1 point XG, the OG is obviously not an XG but then you throw in some of the big saves Vicario made 1.8 seems pretty fair for Arsenal.

    • @alexsmith6322
      @alexsmith6322 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was Jorginho not havertz who fucked up

    • @Clueless1000
      @Clueless1000 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Blunder by havertz" proof you people dont even watch the games.

  • @Cheetah_Chrome
    @Cheetah_Chrome ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don’t sleep on Udogie. He’s gonna be a star

  • @thebonkarsgamer449
    @thebonkarsgamer449 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spurs fan here, arsenal are a very big threat and a great team however this is Anges progress after 6 games, Arteta has been there for 3 hers or so, exciting times. Liverpool are there for the taking today if we play out cards right

  • @iam_nick
    @iam_nick ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this Spurs team, however at some point they would need a classic no.9 for low block teams. Son can’t hold up and lack of body pressure in the box

  • @dmjmaxwell8535
    @dmjmaxwell8535 ปีที่แล้ว

    Arsenal not buying a CMF who's both offensively and defensively effective as xhaka is affecting the midfield.Odeggard shouldn't be dropping that deep to build up

  • @thejoulesthief6841
    @thejoulesthief6841 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Learn about Spurs: They're good but if Madison or Bissouma get hurt, they might be dead in the water. Ange Ball is good.
    Learn about Arsenal: They're good but they don't have that clinical finisher. Depth might strangely also be a concern like last year?

    • @eleonarcrimson858
      @eleonarcrimson858 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did u come to that conclusion after watching the video 😂

    • @thejoulesthief6841
      @thejoulesthief6841 ปีที่แล้ว

      its called having an opinion lol@@eleonarcrimson858

    • @thejoulesthief6841
      @thejoulesthief6841 ปีที่แล้ว

      did you even watch the game?@@eleonarcrimson858

    • @farfromit7654
      @farfromit7654 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you know? Also, losing Son will be much more critical to Spurs at the moment.

    • @thejoulesthief6841
      @thejoulesthief6841 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maddison, Bissouma, Sarr had combined 191 touches in the midfield vs Vieira, Rice, Jorginho, Odegaard, Havertz's 151. Madisson was involved in both goals and Bissouma had 59 passes at 95% passing accuracy! Highest among starters.
      Jesus bad miss in the center of the pitch, Nketiah looks decent but held to 1 shot and won 1 aerial ball. Rice off for Jorginho looked awful. That mistake completely cost them the 3 points. Saka is still top class and Jesus creates so much chaos. Trossard and Martinelli were missed, but if Saka went down during the game, who does Arsenal turn to?
      If Son goes down, imo, some of their attacking bite is gone but Kulusevski and Maddison are other goal scoring threats. However, I think its a fair comment on the importance of Son to Spurs. @@farfromit7654

  • @ericnoack1324
    @ericnoack1324 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes it's a problem, sure you can get flogged but it's risk versus reward and I would back Ange leaving the back exposed if it means scoring goals and rewarding the fans .

  • @Maj1794
    @Maj1794 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jorginho and havertz coming on worked against us.

    • @puskas_baller
      @puskas_baller ปีที่แล้ว

      same for spurs with madders, son and johnson having to come off

    • @roan9914
      @roan9914 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@puskas_baller no idea why son came off but the other two were injured same with Rice having to come off

    • @puskas_baller
      @puskas_baller ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roan9914 son wasn't 100% going into it

  • @wybie1216
    @wybie1216 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i thought there was definitely a slowing in arsenal's progression up the field after playing out of the back. very likely ending up in more turnovers.

  • @AminCorea
    @AminCorea ปีที่แล้ว

    Good content

  • @petergmred2005
    @petergmred2005 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have zero doubt if there was a even playing surface(salary cap) ange would win the league more often then not. Remember ange has been coaching this style for 27yrs. Even then i think title yr 3.

  • @wesselvisser5042
    @wesselvisser5042 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spurs fans deserve a fun season for once tbh

  • @BKKLB
    @BKKLB ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually think that the Spurs were the better squad and that Arsenal should feel lucky to have taken home the 3 points. An own goal and a handball was Arsenal's scoreline. Jesus had the only real chance created by Arsenal. Spurs created their own chances and if Romeno had not had those two critical errors or moments of bad luck..... I tend to think Spurs would have left with the 3 points.

  • @capadam1440
    @capadam1440 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vicario is not Lloris 👍

  • @tomyates2551
    @tomyates2551 ปีที่แล้ว

    @18 mins - isn’t that style of play exactly what Sarri’s Chelsea do? Particularly against City

  • @toby3695
    @toby3695 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tifo phasing the podcast back is lovely. But just bring the podcast back already

  • @astrothelad
    @astrothelad ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Arsenal have speedrun to the point they were last season where injuries piled up and dragged them to relative mediocrity. tbf no one can compete with city, so it's really more just a question of placement if they can hang on to top 4.

  • @birajbhandari244
    @birajbhandari244 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Arteta needed 3 window to get this stage. Spurs did it in one

  • @chinmaymukherjee8489
    @chinmaymukherjee8489 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy to see spurs fan happy 😊

  • @justin8910
    @justin8910 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Arsenal need a striker to win the league. Someone like Callum Wilson would be perfect.

  • @cappyjones
    @cappyjones ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Spurs are 6 games into a rebuild and Arsenal are 4 years in. Spurs havent won at the Emirates in 13 years. Arsenal got their two goals off of Spurs (Cuti) mistakes. Arsenal are technically the better team and couldn't beat Spurs.

    • @charles9489
      @charles9489 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So did spurs win at the Emirates? They couldn't beat by an underperforming arsenal riddled by injuries and needed a Chelsea player cuck up to draw level.
      Rebuild, weren't the spurs lot claiming to be title contenders last season.
      Must be nice to get a draw lol.

    • @AshaD2345
      @AshaD2345 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      So spurs didn't get one of their goals of a Jorghino mistake?

    • @alexsmith32012
      @alexsmith32012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AshaD2345 The phase of play the ball had to be won the ball had to be passed and then finished by Spurs. Where as Arsenal scored from the exact mistake deflection and hand ball.

    • @dennisgichohi5392
      @dennisgichohi5392 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​​@@alexsmith32012the pall also had to be passed for arsenal to score both their goals....did the ball take itself to the final third

    • @TheOvieShow
      @TheOvieShow ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very disingenuous. Firstly, Spurs 2nd goal came off a mistake. Secondly, Arsenal 2nd goal was going in anyways if it wasn't for the handball. Third, Arsenal riddled with injuries.
      So where does that put us? I don't even have to go into advanced metrics such as xG to show how misleading your presentation of the situation is.

  • @abdiazizabdi6687
    @abdiazizabdi6687 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spurs gave Eddie and Jesus the ball only to face goalkeeper both missed versus quality finish from son that is big difference people talking about

  • @NewJeansHaerin_Vietnamesefan
    @NewJeansHaerin_Vietnamesefan ปีที่แล้ว

    Well honestly I just feel like when Kane stays, it has more secure feeling..

  • @rk3832
    @rk3832 ปีที่แล้ว

    tifo please cover liverpool games..played 6 won 5!!

  • @tigersforlife6767
    @tigersforlife6767 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These guys are kind of the opposite of what I think Tifo wants to convey their brand as. They're weird and don't seem to be too knowledgable.

  • @anovaguy
    @anovaguy ปีที่แล้ว

    What I learned is neither of these teams are going to take points away from City so we are going to need some shock results for a title race

    • @anelevilakazi8467
      @anelevilakazi8467 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're both getting better. Especially spurs.

  • @burrrrr8525
    @burrrrr8525 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Son the xG king have returned

  • @piper3297
    @piper3297 ปีที่แล้ว

    bring back the pod

  • @tenzin8773
    @tenzin8773 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Arsenal lost because key players are injured forcing Mikel to improvise. Key lessons to learn and this applies to all teams: The team that will get the best possible result is that team that stays most fit

    • @thewilliamjrful
      @thewilliamjrful ปีที่แล้ว

      What key player lol

    • @eriklakeland3857
      @eriklakeland3857 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe don’t break the bank on utter dross like Havertz instead of making excuses about injuries

    • @Clueless1000
      @Clueless1000 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@thewilliamjrful timber, martinelli, trossard and rice (at half time)

    • @thewilliamjrful
      @thewilliamjrful ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Clueless1000 I’m sorry but rice was useless

    • @JibbaJabber
      @JibbaJabber ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@thewilliamjrfulYep. Better off using that 100 million and getting some Müller Rice. Team would have had more strength in midfield and lasted more that 30 mins!

  • @dipteshpawa6549
    @dipteshpawa6549 ปีที่แล้ว

    So Arsenal and United are having an almost identical playing style? Although, Arsenal having a better balance in the midfield which is it’s advantage.

  • @SalmanAhmad-ww8lu
    @SalmanAhmad-ww8lu ปีที่แล้ว

    Spurs will be found out before the end of the season, this is something that happens every time they get in a new manager. They were amazing against Arsenal no doubt about that, but I have seen spurs play better football under other managers eventually it did not end well for them as the season approached it's end.

  • @silverheart7964
    @silverheart7964 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Arsenal wouldn't have to build up through wider areas so much if we had bought a striker worth his salt in the summer.

    • @e-ben616
      @e-ben616 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We need a proper striker. No that's not Nketiah. Jesus is okay but we need a proper striker

    • @arvin9425
      @arvin9425 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Weird comment. How would a better striker help our build up? It would help putting away chances tho

    • @jamesmassin7982
      @jamesmassin7982 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ou ou ou, do you know better then Arteta and the board. Or maybe you’ve been in the position to buy a player?! No….
      Maybe you’re opinion doesn’t matter and holds no validity.

    • @troyhewson7907
      @troyhewson7907 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@arvin9425like how city do with haaland, they play slightly more direct and on the shoulder in their build up in certain scenerios because they actually have a physical target

    • @eleonarcrimson858
      @eleonarcrimson858 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@troyhewson7907? Thats literally not related to building from the back. Cross and inshallah is not something even city does with haaland.

  • @sirman18
    @sirman18 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Liverpool video please