The important thing is that the hips lead. So if you've hit a wall distance wise, trying to rotate your shoulders faster will not help unless you can speed up your hip rotation as well.
Yea, you're right - the other thing putting him at #1 is accuracy. A lot of BS golfers can smash the ball - he does it in the exact spot he wants to put it, time and time again. Obviously he is a superior ball striker, and he can control all his shots, high fade to low draw and everything in between. Then again, I'd like to see this same test with Tiger 10 years ago. He was a beast, and will never reach that level again given his knee problems + age.
recently, experts have begun saying that you can only go as fast as you can slow down which is why a lot of golfers are learning to swing the club left handed in an effort to build the weak side muscles. If this is the case, wouldn't rory's split second reverse hip rotation actually be a massive factor in his ability to hit the ball a long way?
Yes, perhaps he won't hurt his knees.. but what about his spine, then? Golf kinetics is all about rotation of body axis, and that stress from hitting it so strong, and so often, at this age would (hope don't) swell and long-term fibrose his spinal ligaments. As happened to Freddy, Vijay, and many others (even TW himself). You must pay a prize for that level of play, as in all high-level competition
you can imagine thousands of confused young americans on the tee spinning wildly out of control, trying desperatly to emulate ''720 degrees per second hip swing speed'' because thats what you need to be the best kids!!!!!
310 driving average is not the same everywhere. remember why -15 won and not a normal us open sore? the course was wet! at the super dry Olympic, i remember 323 by that Patterson guy was the long ball. i don't care how strong you are, its not just that. its being like a roller coaster and gaining speed, rather than wasting all of your energy in the transition.
not everyone can do this. you have to development muscles early. like around 7 years old. it's all about the fast twitch muscles. you can't develop those muscles later on. the window of opportunity is small. most people don't realize that to develop these muscles, you can not just play golf. you develop these muscles by playing other sports such has baseball, throwing a frisbee, tennis, etc. picking up golf at an early age and you can develop a sound golf swing, but you will be weak.
You sure will because you're swinging with your arms not letting your body bring your arms inside when you try to catch your arms up your going to be tightening up thus slowing down your arms making the club late and pushing or slicing the ball right. Pro golfers start the downswing with their lower body the only reason you would be late would be starting the downswing with your arms instead of letting your lower body bring the club on plane through impact
no it isn't, its the recipe for a powerful and stable golf swing........ a trait that is found in many great 'swingers' who played the game throughout history and achieved multiple major championship success....... Rory just rebounds a little more than most ;-)
Hundreds is an exaggeration I admit but if I know a few there's bound to be hundreds out there. Just swinging 120 mph and hitting it 300 yards is not that special even for averaged size guys. That's not the only thing putting him at the top of the world.
I dunno. A lot of guys generate the speed he does including myself and I'm only 5'11". He hits it a long way but I know hundreds of guys of average size who hit the ball 300 yards.
all that torque might catch up to him later on in life, couple of hip replacements...kinda what tiger went through with his knee...all that torque is not healthy on the human body
i love his swing but i cant see how this is healthy for his body. i think he will be like tiger where he will have to change his swing to longigate his career
I agree but a fundemental mistake many ameturs make like those that can be fixed at address, grip, balence, alignment, starting with the club open or closed are all fundemental mistakes crucial to executing a consistent swing starting the swing with your arms and trying to get your body to catch up is a fundemental mistake that will cause a loss of power overswinging and incosistency.
Just learn the proper set up and swing. turn your left foot open at a 45 degree angle, and move up your right foot a little - also turned (outward) 45 degrees. KEEP YOUR right knee flexed throughout the entire shot (can't stress enough this one. if you dont do it, your entire shot is thrown off). At adress have almost all weight on right foot (assuming you're a righty). the more open left foot will allow you to involve the hips more than usual, but you will need to flex them like Rory to do it.
I don't buy that theory for a second (no offense...). But, I have seen enough to know that willpower can trump just about any obstacle. With the right coaching, steely determination, and the right circumstances, I would bet someone could achieve comperable results over time at almost any age.
I might be wrong but that reverse rotation is probably an effect caused by momentum transfer during his follow-through: after impact his shoulders start slowing down creating tension in the hips, which are still way forward rotated, so they answer with an opposite rotation as a muscular reaction. It's more something caused by massive forces applied with the body, rather than something to imitate directly...
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It looks to me that he stalls his hips until after impact to keep from spinning out, as far as that reversing action in the hips...WTF!!!
Reverse occilation of the hips due to the release in the golf swing all that compression into the ground creates torque which is released and creates floating hips for a split second.
@mikepownzall considering I only know a few guys that are rory's size that consistently hit the ball over 280, that's what makes it special. Look on tour, the shorter guys don't average over 280. Hell, Rocco Mediate averages about 268 yds off the tee. Jim furyk averages closer to 278. Pro golfers don't hit the ball as far as everything thinks. Its special because Rory is swinging this fast, generating this power AND is scoring as low, if not lower, than most other players on tour
right knee STAYS BENT. Wanna ruin a golf shot? Simple; straighten out the back/right knee. Now you are basically just swinging at the ball like hitting a moving baseball. Who knows where it will end up!
he will have this swing his whole life. his swing doesnt put nearly as much stress on his left knee as tigers did. all of rory's power comes from his core and hips and has little stress on his joints
errrrrr.... this hip recoil is very noticeable on Rory but he's hardly unique........... Snead had it, Palmer had it big time, and so on and so on..... essentially lots of big hitting golfers who had a classical golf swing...... basically, if you snap hips open aggressively, as far as they can through and left, whilst lagging the shoulders, this leads to a brief moment of recoil as the torque is released when the hands go past impact, before momentum continues forwards from the upper body
"It's all in the hips, it's all in the hips."
ok those skinless rendered golfers are freaking me out man...
I'm not a big fan of golf, but I love the technique that goes into a swing.
SPORT SCIENCE WHERE WE TALK REALLY FAST AND LOUD ABOUT SPORT SCIENCE.
This is silly and really dumbed down to put it mildly.
yeah i was hoping to learn someting and especially hoping to learn of long term effects
The important thing is that the hips lead. So if you've hit a wall distance wise, trying to rotate your shoulders faster will not help unless you can speed up your hip rotation as well.
Yea, you're right - the other thing putting him at #1 is accuracy. A lot of BS golfers can smash the ball - he does it in the exact spot he wants to put it, time and time again.
Obviously he is a superior ball striker, and he can control all his shots, high fade to low draw and everything in between.
Then again, I'd like to see this same test with Tiger 10 years ago. He was a beast, and will never reach that level again given his knee problems + age.
recently, experts have begun saying that you can only go as fast as you can slow down which is why a lot of golfers are learning to swing the club left handed in an effort to build the weak side muscles. If this is the case, wouldn't rory's split second reverse hip rotation actually be a massive factor in his ability to hit the ball a long way?
Yes, perhaps he won't hurt his knees.. but what about his spine, then? Golf kinetics is all about rotation of body axis, and that stress from hitting it so strong, and so often, at this age would (hope don't) swell and long-term fibrose his spinal ligaments. As happened to Freddy, Vijay, and many others (even TW himself).
You must pay a prize for that level of play, as in all high-level competition
Thats why I play golf. It's the only hip action I've got these days.
you can imagine thousands of confused young americans on the tee spinning wildly out of control, trying desperatly to emulate ''720 degrees per second hip swing speed'' because thats what you need to be the best kids!!!!!
310 driving average is not the same everywhere. remember why -15 won and not a normal us open sore? the course was wet! at the super dry Olympic, i remember 323 by that Patterson guy was the long ball. i don't care how strong you are, its not just that. its being like a roller coaster and gaining speed, rather than wasting all of your energy in the transition.
if rory is 720 per sec. what was bubbas speed when he was hitting hard 3 or 4 years back, with both feet off the ground and hips facing target?
not everyone can do this. you have to development muscles early. like around 7 years old. it's all about the fast twitch muscles. you can't develop those muscles later on. the window of opportunity is small. most people don't realize that to develop these muscles, you can not just play golf. you develop these muscles by playing other sports such has baseball, throwing a frisbee, tennis, etc. picking up golf at an early age and you can develop a sound golf swing, but you will be weak.
You sure will because you're swinging with your arms not letting your body bring your arms inside when you try to catch your arms up your going to be tightening up thus slowing down your arms making the club late and pushing or slicing the ball right. Pro golfers start the downswing with their lower body the only reason you would be late would be starting the downswing with your arms instead of letting your lower body bring the club on plane through impact
no it isn't, its the recipe for a powerful and stable golf swing........ a trait that is found in many great 'swingers' who played the game throughout history and achieved multiple major championship success....... Rory just rebounds a little more than most ;-)
Hundreds is an exaggeration I admit but if I know a few there's bound to be hundreds out there. Just swinging 120 mph and hitting it 300 yards is not that special even for averaged size guys. That's not the only thing putting him at the top of the world.
Bubba can hit 360 but he is 6' 3" and also very flexible.
I dunno. A lot of guys generate the speed he does including myself and I'm only 5'11". He hits it a long way but I know hundreds of guys of average size who hit the ball 300 yards.
all that torque might catch up to him later on in life, couple of hip replacements...kinda what tiger went through with his knee...all that torque is not healthy on the human body
i love his swing but i cant see how this is healthy for his body. i think he will be like tiger where he will have to change his swing to longigate his career
not really true, keep a little more weight on your backside, keep your head still and swing hard...you'll hit it far too
False. Your hips pull the club head through the hitting area, keeping the club square through the hitting zone longer.
His hip action creates great length and ball speeds of over 175 mph, if you know what i mean
lol oh look, someone is terrible at golf and gave up on himself.
@simplelife008 but he is and his swing doesn't suck
When they average drive distances, is that only using his driver? or every time he tees off...?
I agree but a fundemental mistake many ameturs make like those that can be fixed at address, grip, balence, alignment, starting with the club open or closed are all fundemental mistakes crucial to executing a consistent swing starting the swing with your arms and trying to get your body to catch up is a fundemental mistake that will cause a loss of power overswinging and incosistency.
Fundamental - like understanding how sentence structure works and what periods are used for?
What a joke.... are you kidding me? have you ever played golf???
What's wrong with our shows?! You like Supernanny right!? haha!
Just learn the proper set up and swing. turn your left foot open at a 45 degree angle, and move up your right foot a little - also turned (outward) 45 degrees. KEEP YOUR right knee flexed throughout the entire shot (can't stress enough this one. if you dont do it, your entire shot is thrown off). At adress have almost all weight on right foot (assuming you're a righty). the more open left foot will allow you to involve the hips more than usual, but you will need to flex them like Rory to do it.
I don't buy that theory for a second (no offense...). But, I have seen enough to know that willpower can trump just about any obstacle. With the right coaching, steely determination, and the right circumstances, I would bet someone could achieve comperable results over time at almost any age.
Wow. What I want to know is will he be able to keep this swing in his 30's or will he have to do a change for his body like TW?
I might be wrong but that reverse rotation is probably an effect caused by momentum transfer during his follow-through: after impact his shoulders start slowing down creating tension in the hips, which are still way forward rotated, so they answer with an opposite rotation as a muscular reaction. It's more something caused by massive forces applied with the body, rather than something to imitate directly...
It looks to me that he stalls his hips until after impact to keep from spinning out, as far as that reversing action in the hips...WTF!!!
he'll clear his wrists faster to compensate - try this
Ouch...That can't possibly good for when he gets older.
Reverse occilation of the hips due to the release in the golf swing all that compression into the ground creates torque which is released and creates floating hips for a split second.
@mikepownzall
considering I only know a few guys that are rory's size that consistently hit the ball over 280, that's what makes it special. Look on tour, the shorter guys don't average over 280. Hell, Rocco Mediate averages about 268 yds off the tee. Jim furyk averages closer to 278. Pro golfers don't hit the ball as far as everything thinks. Its special because Rory is swinging this fast, generating this power AND is scoring as low, if not lower, than most other players on tour
@LorrDx Please tell me what country your from, hopefully its England. Can't wait to talk about your tv shows if thats the case!
anyone can tell me how i can train my body to do this? like just to get my hips moving faster than my torso more efficiently
in other words serious injuries by the age of 25
right knee STAYS BENT. Wanna ruin a golf shot? Simple; straighten out the back/right knee. Now you are basically just swinging at the ball like hitting a moving baseball. Who knows where it will end up!
extremely rare my ass. i do that all the time.
he will have this swing his whole life. his swing doesnt put nearly as much stress on his left knee as tigers did. all of rory's power comes from his core and hips and has little stress on his joints
true he has a compensating move by stopping his hips to let the arms roll over. But it works!!
Lol what you just said is complete bullshit.
Woah! I've seen the spider before and didn't fall for that one at all, but I definately freaked when I saw your fly! lol
Its a combination of his hips and the lag of the clubhead he creates. He has incredible forearm strength to release the club that fast.
He ain't gonna be firing those hips at 720 degrees per second after he has to get them replaced. This style is brutal on the body.
more like caroline wozniacki
i wanna see Sports Science: Tiger Woods 2000 swing
What a swing.
Chubbs would be proud.
Reminds me of Happy Gilmore - "Its all in the hips!!"
absolutely, it's definitely not just strength
All in the hips
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Than why are you even watching this? >.>
Subtle.
Bubba is not flexible. He uses his swing arc to generate club head speed. But Dustin is flexible.
175+ MPH Thats Fast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
golf sucks.
hip motion caught the eye of a man
just ask Tiger woods
i see what you did there.
errrrrr.... this hip recoil is very noticeable on Rory but he's hardly unique........... Snead had it, Palmer had it big time, and so on and so on..... essentially lots of big hitting golfers who had a classical golf swing...... basically, if you snap hips open aggressively, as far as they can through and left, whilst lagging the shoulders, this leads to a brief moment of recoil as the torque is released when the hands go past impact, before momentum continues forwards from the upper body
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