4C hair can be long but generally looks short when shrunken. My hair was mid back length 4C when stretched but when not stretched it looked about 2 inches long.
@@pocahontas4583 she’s just saying ppl associate 4c hair with short hair, so when someone has long 4c hair people question it and say they don’t actually have 4c. Of course people with 4c can have really long hair, but ppl seem to not understand that
@@mariewhite4742 and my point was 4C hair often looks short when it’s in its natural state even if it’s not or is actually long when stretched. The people who’s hair appears long without being stretched that call themselves 4C usually aren’t actually 4C.
I’ve been looking at since she was on Disney. She knows her hair type and has been taking great care of it since she was young. Something not a lot of us naturals now can relate to since we were permed our childhood. I’m sure she knows what she’s talking about especially for her hair
I applaud her mom for encouraging her to embrace her natural. My mom took me to get a press every 2 weeks. I had to learn how to care for my curly hair on my own in middle school 🤧
@@sexybutt999 in my opinion, i dont think that the way your curls coil places you in one category. I have tightly coiled hair but it is silky. Ppl would put me in 3c /4a but if we are going based on that chart i have 4c curls but because it isnt as “kinky”as a what we would consider 4c you wouldn’t categorize it that way buy technically, i am.
Skai is def 4c. Yall never allow girls with long hair to be 4c. Yall do it with Natural Academia, The Chic Natural, Nappy Fu, etc etc. Everyoone knew these youtubers were 4c when there hair was twa and short but now that it's longer everyone is confused. the weight of the hair allows the coil to elongate. As Chizi's hair gets longer it will do the same thing
she doesn't have long hair though... why is everyone casually forgetting those twin sisters who legitimately have like floor length 4C hair. and you can instantly tell it's 4C. and they keep it stretched all the time but the hair still looks 4c. it doesn't become a different hair texture just because it's stretched or long. or literally any other 4C TH-camr on TH-cam that has crazy long hair. their hair always looks 4C. Skai Jackson doesn't have 4C hair and that's just the truth nor is her hair even long. it's average length.
I think her hair is a mix of type 4 all over. I don’t know why you’re speaking like you’ve put your hands in these women’s hair to know but none of us do. Hair typing is one of the most inaccurate ways to understand natural hair. It all looks different.
@@LethalLemonLime lmao her hair is long. the twins hair are just super long. if she were to straighten her natural hair you would see how long it truly is. you can have long hair and not look like repunzal.
@@LethalLemonLime Skai’s hair has always been down her back though. Even in it’s curly state, which we can see from her old Jessie episodes. It’s definitely long, it’s just not straight.
Ya know what I'm starting to think? I think that Africans have 4C all over their entire head while children of the diaspora that are 4C majorily but may also have varying degrees of 4A and/or 4B throughout their heads...
@@jojosmom8819 that was so ignorant, and honestly I’m getting second hand embarrassment from your comment. Know that sub-Saharan Africans are the most genetically diverse group. we come in different shades, different hair types, and very different features
@@jojosmom8819 You really thought you had an epiphany huh? Educate yourself on Africa and its people. They are not a monolith. You sound ignorant and dense, generalizing an entire continent based on a handful of people that you've crossed paths with in your life. Childish.
exactly it’s so mf annoying 🙄 like calm down there’s different densities and Porosities and obviously if your hair is less dense the curl pattern is going to show more and it’s going to look thinner 🙄 like 4C doesn’t only look one way. For example, Halfrican Beaute is 4C and her hair doesn’t look like Chizi’s
I have the same problem with the natural hair community they are quick to tell you that you’re not 4c just because it’s not thick or coarse! I have fine 4c hair and because my hair is fine it is easier to define my curls with products but I am definitely type 4c.
4C means the strands of your hair are literally a specific pattern. and skye’s are not that pattern AT ALL. so it makes absolutely no sense. it’s literally the same as someone like beyoncé calling themselves dark skinned. it’s not only wrong but it’s insulting to people who actually ARE.
So what people fail to understand is that even within the so-called 4c hair category, there is such a wide range of textures. I have 4 sisters, we're all 4c, but each of us is a different type of 4c. One of us has 4c hair that feels like a cotton cloud, and another has hair whose individual strands feel as thick as wire. In the days of the creamy crack no relaxer known to man could get her hair fully straight. She'd have that thing on for hours, her scalp would burn, and it still wouldn't lay! The remaining 3 of us fall in the middle of that spectrum. 2 of us have 4b in the very front and the rest is thick voluminous 4c. The very youngest of us 5 has 4c throughout, but with very densely packed strands. After being loose natural for so many years, 3 of us now have microlocks lol. I say all this to say - 4c hair is a very wide spectrum. The categorization "4c" only describes one characteristic of a person's hair. There are other qualities/characteristics that could then make your hair much easier to detangle or manage, or much more difficult to handle.
Right! I don't fit into any category so I just stopped trying to go by one but instead by what my hair likes. I don't have patience to try to figure out the category lol
This is so true, I always wonder why other girls with 4c hair looks different from mine in certain hairstyles but I’ve realized that not all 4c hair is the same.
So true my hair is 4c but is wiry and/or spongy and I sometimes think my hair isn't 4c cause many 4c haired ppl hair look different cause some shine or sheen and some are seem wiry or spongy or cottony and then you gotta take into consideration porosity on how well moisture and product is absorbed like its never gonna be a exact fit with any way to type hair just like personality typing systems o.o
One day we will outgrow this. I just hope people will understand our hair can't be put in 3 boxes of letters and numbers. There is a gazillion of "type 4" hair not just 3!!!
Yes all 4c does have the same curl pattern. The hair typing system is literally based on curl pattern and lack there of. This is the problem. Many people don’t understand the hair typing chart.
@@alexish8183 I think it’s inaccurate because in cosmology school it’s not taught that (chart) was made up by a stylist it doesn’t make sense when I graduated and learned hair Chile I was so misinformed ✌🏾
@@scorpiostingstung My sister is a natural hair stylist and she prefers not to use the chart because even hair with similar pattern can still be very different. The chart accurately accounts for the various hair textures but at this point I would prefer people not use it because most people don’t understand it anyway.
I'm probably more like 4a/b, but I have noticed that the longer my hair grows, the more my curls are more apparent. My armpit length hair looks significantly different than when I was at shoulder length.
YES!! I agree! Starting my hair journey, I know my hair was/is 4c by it's low porosity and zig zags and the way it dries. But as it grew and was natural for longer and the quality of products improved, by curls have become very apparent. But I still see my hair as 4b/4c.
I definitely feel like this a point that could be kept in mind for these videos. I had hair that appeared more 4c when it was shorter, and now I’m always complimented on my hair texture. But nah, sis, that’s the weight.
People have to realise that the longer your hair gets the more the curls will stretch. Also if you KEEP your hair stretched like Skai usually does it will appear looser than it actually is. Also 4c in itself covers a wide range of textures and patterns. Just like two people can be dark skinned and still not be the exact same shade. Maybe her hair isn’t 4c and its something else but the possibility that it is, is just as high
@Bless W not true. That depends on your hair specification 4c is a hair category and within it everyone differs you hair could grow outwards or upwards or downwards, be thick or thinner or low porosity or high porosity. There are so many hair textures with sooo many different women you can’t just box it in. If you have a mixed history your 4c may be different to a pure blooded Africans 4c in Africa.
@@jasminclarke9309 if they’re “mixed” and their hair is 4C, it’s still going to shrink a lot when wet or else they don’t have 4C hair. 😅 There’s a youtuber (forgot her name) who’s biracial and has 4C hair and her hair shrinks up just like the rest of us lol.
@Nick The Great where I'm from you could definitely tell especially when we were young and didn't use product. Didn't call it 4c then just steel wool for the hard one or cotton wool/ spongy but they were all 4c
I think her hair is 4c but her strands are fine and looks like she has low to medium density hair and she looks low porosity cause when she sprayed the water it took a while for the water to soak into her hair, but when she was putting the water and conditioner on her hair you really didn’t see her hair curl up, so I’m confused why people saying she has 3c or 4a, not all 4c hair is the same you have to look at strands, density and porosity ☺️
People saying she has 3c hair are ignorant😭. 3c hair has a CURL. Like its a richer curl but its always very clearly a curl. Skai's hair did not curl up like that. You can very clearly tell its type 4 hair. But because her haur is long it cause the curl to elongate.
Her hair is 4C and if you watched her as a younger child on TV you could tell. The longer your hair grows, the more it stretches. And don’t forget there’s different porosities, densities, etc. there’s not strictly just one type of “4C” hair. There can be thicker 4C’s and thinner 4C’s and the thinner your hair is, the more your curls will show. Also keep in mind the length and the porosity. 💓 I actually think she’s 4C, her hair doesn’t look much different than Chizi’s but it’s just longer.
People saying her hair is 3c, I dont see it. I belive there are very different 4c hair (her front of the hair looks 4a/b). It just seems her hair doesn't shrink much, so it has length, thus giving this more blown out look. I've come to the conclusion that the hair typing is weird because even within certain labels, everyone's hair is unique.
When I was much younger and in my teens I wasn't allowed to get a perm. My way of dealing with the pain of extremely dense thick strands 4c hair was to grease my hair really good and thread up my hair in 4 large sections the minute I walked in the door. I did this EVERY, SINGLE, DAY. After a while, especially when I got to bra strap length, my hair started looking kinky straight like a blow out even at the end of a long day. I remember a classmate of mine legit came at me for saying my hair was still 100% natural. She wouldn't believe it and I was so pissed than I refused to explain why my hair had become like that 😅 Unless I actually poured water in it you couldn't see the evidence of a curl. Hair has something called memory. Keep it permanently stretched for weeks on end and it will "remember" to stay that way. At least until wash day.
@@hawtnsweet yes same thing only I have majority 4a hair. The top of my hair looks 3c or looser even, after I do slick back or stretched hairstyles for a while. But once I wash my hair well, define my curls and let it dry, it looks 4a.
I feel like her hair is 4c. Looks like mine, and I have 4c hair. I know a lot of people don’t subscribe to the notion that the weight of longer hair can make the curl pattern appear looser. When my hair was shorter, I had much tighter coils.
Her hair isn't 4c, at least not much of it is 4c. My hair is longer now but i don't have any significant loosening of the coil as a result. My hair is like hers in most areas. From the moment i big chopped, my front and crown had a life of its own with like an 'S' pattern different from the back of my hair . it was loose, and always till this day looks blow dried. I cut it so many times thinking it was damaged until i realised it was just a different texture to the rest.
Anyone who did a big chop, started from a TWA and progressed to armpit length or longer can attest to this. The weight of my hair definitely stretched out my curl. It would still shrink up tight if I wet it and left it to dry without stretching; but no way as tight as when it was a TWA.
@@sedsa097 I completely agree. I made a comment about this very thing somewhere else in this comment section. It's the products and the constant stretching. I didn't even use heat - just African threading, but it was always stretched in some form of the other. I never let it fro; I couldn't afford to 'cos I was in boarding school and 100% responsible for my hair care. Nobody wanted to touch me because of the density of my hair (it was a whole day's job lol). But you're absolutely right. Hair does have memory.
It matters because Black women with 4c hair started the nappy trend, only to be erased from their own space. If people labelled their video accurately, it would help people with actual 4c hair reach the content they need.
This is exactly why I don't care about the curl typing system. I said what I said and I can say it anyway I like. You disagree that's fine with me. Keep it moving. No need to be rude about it.
@@GypsyVictorious There isn't anything wrong with 3c hair. Skai just doesn't have it.. 3c is more of a Yara Shahidi type texture. And Skai is definitely not that lol.
@@GypsyVictorious Of course there isn't. It's just that some people think her hair isn't 4a-4c because it's long and healthy. Some people were claiming her texture is too loose to be in the 4 category.
My hair is 4c and definitely seems more like hers when it’s well hydrated. Agreed, cute routine and let’s just all love and value its health above everything 😊
I'm a white man with the straightest hair possible and now somehow my recommended page is full of videos about 4C hair and it's just gonna keep going cuz I'm watching them all out of curiosity lmao
Amen sis I totally agree. Just another form of self hatred. You aren’t socially accepted if your hair isn’t a certain texture. Anyone who asks my hair type I always say healthy and absolutely gorgeous. Periodt
Kayla NevaCared read this article abt the guy the guy who made it: www.mellohair.ca/blogs/news/the-disappointing-truth-about-the-most-popular-hair-chart . With that being said, it was always negativity. I do see your point in a way, though.
@@janice184 yeah that's pretty when I meant by people just turned it negative but it could be helpful. Like where they were talking about searching up a specific hair type. And information about that hair type. But most of the negativity around it people made negative or just start researching their hair. Which most people should be researching their own hair anyways. But I can see what you guys mean too.
Some of these comments are crazy. Just love the hair on your head and find what works best for you. These charts are not the end all be all. I still don't really know my type because its different all around. And guess what, I don't really care. At the end of the day I'm happy to have healthy natural hair and I fall in love with it more and more every day. Who cares if she's 4c or not. She's happy, healthy, and beautiful either way. Let that girl live.
Way back in the day (lol), I heard of using conditioner right before shampoo to make sure it’s less stripping. I tried it myself but.... I mean.... just... use... shampoo.... and.... deep condition.... after 😉
Yeah I think it's best to search for a good hydrating shampoo that cleanses without overly stripping your hair. If the pre poo step is nourishing then your hair hopefully won't suffer as much from the shampooing.
That's what I do and I use my deep conditioner as a leave in. Two less products I need to buy...although I alternate among three different deep conditioners (but that's for another story).
@@fadesaye i do exactly that. I learned that from a smaller youtuber years ago. I use to do all 50 - 11 steps for wash day. It was an Olympic relay damn near. 🙄 Then I changed thanks to the video i saw. I will never go back.
I like to think that hair types are like skin tones. For example, skin tones highly vary and don't just come in 'light, medium, and dark.' Same with hair textures. Type 4 hair has a lot of variation and is does not strictly fit into just three categories we call a, b, and c. Many people have multiple curl patterns and textures throughout their hair. I think putting type 4 hair into strict boxes can make it even more confusing for naturals just trying to figure out how to best care for their hair when their hair does not exactly fit in any one of the categories. Skai Jackson has beautiful, long TYPE 4 hair. Her hair may not be exactly 4c specifically in the front where we can see it, but keep in mind that 4c hair does not have one specific look. Other factors come into play besides curl pattern such as density, porosity, fine/thick strands, and texture.
But 4C is very tight. This argument does not work. If 4C comes in 4A, 4B, AND 4C, then why have a separate identification for all? Exactly, 4C is diverse, but not that diverse.
@@BladexZero12 But people have been saying even the front of her hair could be 4C bc “4C is so diverse”. But 4A cannot be considered 4C or else it’ll mislead people who want hair advice.
@@bryceburger_ Yes 4C is very tight. I am just pointing out that 4C is not a one size fits all look. And type 4 hair is more diverse than just three letters. Each letter within type 4 should even have its own subcategories.
This is why I prefer the GreenBeauty Hair Chart. Because this 4c thing makes no sense. Persons can have different coils but just as much kink. In green Beauty there's a I, S and O i believe.
Yep. My middle child has loose (3b-c) curls that are coarse, dry and won’t lay with anything! My youngest has very tight curls, very smooth texture. I can lay his hair with water. Oldest has less defined, fluffy, soft Afro hair. I can also lay hers easily. Curl pattern and texture can be a number of combinations.
@@bambam-jo6ek that sounded very ignorant. The root of our problems will always lead back to white beauty standards and black erasure caused by white people. They colonized us which ruined our outlook on each other. Yes, we should fix these issues on our own now, but we did not cause our own suffering.
Yep but meanwhile Chizi hair looks stupid af and like it actually took a lot of time to do wtf? The color or the braids isn't blonde it's hay colored wtf is that?
I think a lot of people neglect to realise that 4a-c isn't the only type of hair out there for us kinky ppl. Kinky straight is a real thing without being blow dried. A lot of black ppl have kinky hair that just doesn't have a curl pattern. It's straight for the most part just with texture. Lol just like how there straight, wavy and curly hair, kinky folks can fall under any just with the extra dash of kinky😂😂
@@rositabatoum7452 yes girl. But we've gotten to a place where we've allowed people to put us in the little box that says you have to be this or that because there's nothing else that you could possibly be. We're so unique as black ppl girl, it's mind blowing
@@alexxalexander7409 Yeah it is. That's why I am so glad to see people venturing out to discover all of them and to have these discussions we afe having. I feel like by time we are having our babies, they will be rocking their fros more than we have ever been able to.
I immediately thought the same thing then realized she was referring to a specific American accent that she was hearing. Everyone has some sort of accent. We just hear our own accents so much that we don’t notice them
I've definitely done that put conditioner on my hair with shampoo.Because sis I have thick long type 4 okay.Sometimes a sister is scared her hair will tangle with just shampoo.
I think her hair is 4c. When my hair was shorter, it was very tightly curled and kinky and clearly 4c. Now my hair is in locs and waist length. The roots of my locs seem like a completely different texture from when my hair was short and not locked. The length and weight of you hair can make it appear to be a different curl pattern.
Yes that's how I wash my hair. I put conditioner in my hair, with the conditioner still in my hair I put shampoo on hair... mix it all up. It works great
Skai is so cute 😍 she looks like a doll with her huge eyes! But I noticed she used an oil and her hair and you said you do as well. A bunch of black hair professionals like @camillejanae and @jenniferrosenyc have been educating people on natural hair on Twitter and they said that we shouldn’t use oils and butters on our hair at all and that our hair doesn’t need even need a leave in if we use a quality shampoo/conditioner. They said all we need is a clarifying shampoo 1x a month, shampoo and condition weekly, and a styler. I thought they were tripping at first, but I’ve been trying it out for a month and my hair feels AMAZING! I’d love to see you do a video trying out a simple routine to see if it works for you 💕
For the past two to three years I’ve been using a 2 in 1 shampoo and conditioner, then I put a different brand of conditioner on after washing the first out. My hair comes out great afterwards, 4C hair here!
I’m soo tired of everybody acting like black hair is soo damn hard to manage or style .. It’s truly NOT‼️🤦🏽♀️😔 In my opinion we have the best hair fuck what society says.
Girl it's hard 🙄I stopped going to the salon because they don't like when I go there it's too tiring doing my hair. I have been doing it myself and washing and styling takes me like 3hrs 😩I'm at a point where I'm considering perm 🤷
@@LaGoKenyane but even then it’s really not that hard.. You have to know what to use A simple detangler is easy to use. How is it that we know know how to do our daughters hair & not our own?? That’s the confusing part..
@luh.breezyyy well you’re young & you’ll learn just like I did. Tbr that’s when I learned what I know now.. When I was younger I did mostly wash’n go type styles. That makes your hair grow too Don’t be afraid to moisturise.. you might be dripping a little & that’s ok. Once your hair air drys you’ll be AMAZED 🤩😻‼️
I agree but we think it's easy because we grew up knowing what it takes to handle curly hair. People with straight hair think curly hair is harder to manage bc of how they grew up knowing that hair is easy and that its just hair. Natural hair can be easy for some but it takes a lot more than straight hair almost *always* . Its about perspective. Our hair is beautiful and might be easy for us but straight hair ppl are used to 25 min wash days and 10 min detangling and styling. We are also less educated about our hair from society so we all dont know a lot. We only know what we learned or were taught but straight hair ppl are taught and shown the simplicity of their hair, not the beauty and methods of natural hair. If everyone was shown everything there is to know abt natural hair nobody would struggle. Personally I found a way to take care of my hair that, in my opinion, is easy but not everyone has. And I also agree *NATURAL HAIR IS AMAZING*
To me the reason why people comment when our sisters whose hair isn't 4c but label is as is because 1. Over the centuries we are led to believe we are ugly how much more our hair 2. 4c hair isn't that easy to manage and not a lot of people really embrass it. 3. To me the most important reason is because of the younger generation Personally when I wanted to embark on a healthy natural hair journey and came on TH-cam I was specifically looking for sisters with hair like mine (4c). I was confused alot because I will see other sisters with looser curls label their hair as 4c and I sometimes felt like there is something wrong with my hair. I just think TH-camrs shouldn't label their hair as 4c because it gets them views or whatever reason why they do that. I think the black race we are beginning to love ourselves more, getting more representation and beginning to love our hair more especially those with very tight curls. For the sake of the upcoming generation let's not mislead them and call a spade a spade. We are not prompting our sisters who do not have 4c but label it as so because we want to start a fight or something. All natural hair is beautiful. But I just want to come on TH-cam type any video about 4c and see 4c hair. If you think your hair has different curl patterns or not sure or don't want a specific label just title the video 'type 4 hair' as @chiziduru said. I love Skai and she has very very beautiful hair but I will say it's 4a(my opinion I could be wrong). but if she says it's 4c then it is to her, the most important thing is her hair is healthy. If you don't like this hair typing study your hair,experiment and see what works best for your hair. Let's not let this divide us but help us appreciate and love our beautiful hair. ❤️
Unpopular opinion...I think knowing your hair type is important. It isn’t the most important thing but having more information about your hair helps you make better decisions on styles, products and routines..
Skye definitely has 4C hair (or at least a mix of 4B/4C) The hair typing system doesn’t do a good job of including factors other than the curl pattern/curl type that can have a huge influence on the way hair behaves. It looks like Skye has very fine 4C hair, especially in the front. Fine 4C hair has a different look than coarse 4C hair - it’s more soft and fluffy than dense and spongy. And when it’s wet, it tends to elongate more because fine hair is usually higher porosity (so the hair absorbs water quickly rather than the water beading up on the hair). Not to mention her hair is quite long - the weight of her hair probably elongates the curls and makes them look a little more defined (especially with a lot of gel like she had at the beginning.)
I think her hair is beautiful but she honestly does not look like she has type 4c to me. I also wash my hair in sections (my hair is way shorter) and people drag on me for it lol
@Lucy Wales I've heard that argument a few times but I've seen women with long natural hair with 4c hair it does not look like hers (example Protective Princess on YT), but what I've realized what one person thinks is 4c another might not - such is the way of life
Girl shame, my hair is no where near her, and sections is a must. I have arm pit length but my hair still shrinks up behind my hair like a mini fro smh. I also have low density so my strands are extemely thin which makes it so easg to shrink to a twa like it does.
@@aminat643 I'm going to look up Protective Princess because I didn't think Stars hair was 4C either...I watch a lot of 4c youtubers and I don't see any of their hair textures looking like Stars....but I don't have 4c so what do I know, lol
I wash my hair the same, it really helps, she is probably like me.... it is better to untangle my hair with the shampoo in my hair. It can be very hard to get a good scalp cleaning if I don't, and with my sensitive skin, and the fact I use grease on my scalp, my scalp would be itching like I wear a weave 😩 🤣 I do a preliminary wash, then the 2nd time I use shampoo and conditioner, then just conditioner. Sorry long.
When someone’s hair is dry, crunchy and short, yall are so quick to agree that it’s 4C. But when someone with 4C hair has grown their hair LONG, Moisturised and the curls are defined, yall DONT EVER wanna admit that it’s 4C. Yall need to stop stereotyping 4C hair. 4C hair can be VERY long. People Moisturise their 4C hair, AND YES, WHEN 4C HAIR IS WET, YOU CAN SEE THE SHINY DEFINED CURLS. That doesn’t make their hair “3C” , It’s still 4C. Yall see long, defined, moisturised 4c hair and think that it’s ‘Too Good to be 4C, definitely not 4C” no. It’s 4C. Yall just don’t wanna admit that 4C is GORGEOUS. There are many different types of 4C, not all of them look the same. And 4C is A CURL PATTERN so stop saying it’s “not 4c” whenever a 4C person wets their hair and shows the shiny curls. 4c is the CURLIEST hair type on the top of the chart- there’s nothing that goes past it, it’s the peak of the kinks and coils, so respect it. Bye.
The volume difference between your video and Skai 😂 scared the ish outta me 🤣😂 I have no clue what Skai is saying b/c I have to keep the volume low. Skai doesn’t have 4C hair 😂 type 4, yeah but, not 4C. those same professionals were the ones telling us we HAD to relax our hair every 6wks but, never told us how to care for our black hair 😒😂
I’m glad people are saying this. I come from a line of licensed hairdressers..... this was never a thing in school, and your hair changes with age and hormones. And if you are growing it for long length, the weight/ density also changes your hair type. Stop the madness, we are just segregating coils and kinkiness. The important factors are density, absorbing/hydration some people need finer oils, some need rehydration and butters and creams, and some just need plain old grease. If your zinc is low or you have thyroid, or pcos issues the hair line, nape will be brittle or fall out. Drink lot of water.
As a 4c natural with a few 4b & 4a strands eye am realizing how important porosity is. Eye learned how to care for my hair so much more watching videos about porosity than hair type bc the length of my hair never matches the length of the person in the video. So it was hard for me to rlly master everything. But now, growing it out for the umpteenth time…eye’m better equipped.
I just classify her as type 4- seeing her old videos as a baby, toddler and child I always think she's between 4b/a perhaps she has a small section of c...but talking as a whole! usually, hair channels just say 4 type to make it easier
There a huge part of the natural hair community that feel the need to clock everyone’s hair/routines. There’s more than 1, 2 or even 3 ways to do 4c hair. What works for you, doesn’t work for everyone. The fact that you approach this video with grace is refreshing to not watch someone yell are everyone else smh
I think she's adorable. I really don't care to know what her hair type is. Hair is hair and has different needs. She did a great job caring for her hair.
I don't even know about hair typing, but one thing that I believe is that people identify with what is the majority on their head. I have 4c at my edges and some places where I can find 4a, but the majority of my head is 4b and I identify as 4b. Some people may dominantly have 4b at the back/middle section and 4c in the front in the crown and front section making them 4b/4c. Also, curl pattern and hair texture should not be made interchangeable because that's why people think that 4a has to be silky (even though it can be cottony/spongy) and why 4c cannot have ANY visible definition hence people thinking their hair is 4c because they may not see their curls at first. People are so used to seeing 3c/4a and 4b/4c mixtures which is why sometimes we don't know what 4c hair truly looks like or even another hair type. It's very common to have different curls on your head which can be pretty cool except when it might be time to detangling lol. That's just my opinion
5:54 I've mixed conditioner with my shampoo if the shampoo feels too harsh...it started from mixing conditioner with dish soap to strip out temporary colour, bc pure dishsoap makes my hair feel like it might snap in the shower. mixing conditioner lets me really lather the soap/shampoo into the mids/ends without make a tangled nightmare. The dishsoap really lathers so i usually have to cowash it a few times to get the bubbles out completely :/
I don’t understand why people are acting like charting here is a division. it’s important to know what your hair type is and how to better take care of it. In the process of knowing where am I here falls in this chart I was able to do more precise research and get more precise information that works better for my hair type. And I think it’s important for younger people or people are interested in maintaining natural hair to really needs know what hair type they have and how to better take care of that hair. At the end of the day it’s important to know that not all here are the same as important to know what works for you and Why works for you as well as better representation. It’s not about dividing us and putting number as label label it’s really just so we can do better research more focus oriented research.
I have a mixture of 4b and 4c hair ( mostly 4b ) but when I wasn’t taking care of my hair, and it was dry and rlly messy. . . everyone would say oh yea 4c. But now that I take care of it and it’s soft and moisturized all the time now everyone wants to switch up. But I went to a hair stylist and they told me I had a mixture of both.
Yes, I have added some conditioner on top of shampoo in the past because the shampoo I was using caused mad shrinkage and tangling. Adding the conditioner helped to keep my curl pattern elongated and easier to detangle/ clean. But now I've found products my hair loves and no longer have those issues!!!!
I’m wondering the same thing. Like this chick is pretty preoccupied with how others treat and classify their hair ,but has a natural hair setback like every season.
I think understanding your hair by porosity is more important than hair type. Of course certain things might not work specially for a ‘type’ but that's because we should understand what our hair necessarily needs.
I have 4C and I have experienced different lengths. The shorter my hair is the more it looks like 4c. The longer and heavier it gets the more "questionable" my claim to 4C is.
I have the type of 4c hair that skai has...Nobody gonna tell me otherwise...However I have taken into consideration that I could be 4b 4c but that's as far as I'm going... Cause my front is softer and everywhere else is extra thick...
I think shemight have 4c hair. Every time I see 4c naturals with mid back or waist length hair it seems looser. Her hair is just so long the pattern appears loose.
I have 4c hair, Chizi has 4c hair...no gel can hold my hair meanwhile I have seen her slay styles with gels and edge controls. SHe can do washouts I can't. Everyone just do you because you will go crazy
How can someone else tell you what kind of hair you have. Like, you can’t tell someone that your hair is not or is 4c, 4b, or 4a. However, I love your videos. I watch them everyday. Keep making videos. Never stop!
NOTICE HOW PEOPLE ONLY SAY SOMEBODY HAS 4C HAIR ONLY IF ITS SHORT....
4C hair can be long but generally looks short when shrunken. My hair was mid back length 4C when stretched but when not stretched it looked about 2 inches long.
Hi Markayla! ❤️ your name 😉.
So true
@@pocahontas4583 she’s just saying ppl associate 4c hair with short hair, so when someone has long 4c hair people question it and say they don’t actually have 4c. Of course people with 4c can have really long hair, but ppl seem to not understand that
@@mariewhite4742 and my point was 4C hair often looks short when it’s in its natural state even if it’s not or is actually long when stretched. The people who’s hair appears long without being stretched that call themselves 4C usually aren’t actually 4C.
I’ve been looking at since she was on Disney. She knows her hair type and has been taking great care of it since she was young. Something not a lot of us naturals now can relate to since we were permed our childhood. I’m sure she knows what she’s talking about especially for her hair
I was about to say this ! She has literally been natural since... ever lmao. It may not look like it but she knows what she’s doing lol
Exactly. I'm 33 andbeen natural for 5+years, and I'm just now figuring out what works best for my hair
I applaud her mom for encouraging her to embrace her natural. My mom took me to get a press every 2 weeks. I had to learn how to care for my curly hair on my own in middle school 🤧
Right, I was an adult and was fangirling about a girl like me with such great hair, and looks
Exactly!
The natural hair community has to let this chart go. Our hair is more than just four numbers and three letters.
I hate when the Natural Hair Community puts fellow Naturals in specific boxes
Thank you!!!
what’s the problem with it? it helps a lot of people know what type of products to use etc.
@@sexybutt999 in my opinion, i dont think that the way your curls coil places you in one category. I have tightly coiled hair but it is silky. Ppl would put me in 3c /4a but if we are going based on that chart i have 4c curls but because it isnt as “kinky”as a what we would consider 4c you wouldn’t categorize it that way buy technically, i am.
@@sexybutt999 your curl pattern has nothing to do with what products you should use. Your hair porosity is what’s important.
Skai is def 4c. Yall never allow girls with long hair to be 4c. Yall do it with Natural Academia, The Chic Natural, Nappy Fu, etc etc. Everyoone knew these youtubers were 4c when there hair was twa and short but now that it's longer everyone is confused. the weight of the hair allows the coil to elongate. As Chizi's hair gets longer it will do the same thing
she doesn't have long hair though... why is everyone casually forgetting those twin sisters who legitimately have like floor length 4C hair. and you can instantly tell it's 4C. and they keep it stretched all the time but the hair still looks 4c. it doesn't become a different hair texture just because it's stretched or long. or literally any other 4C TH-camr on TH-cam that has crazy long hair. their hair always looks 4C. Skai Jackson doesn't have 4C hair and that's just the truth nor is her hair even long. it's average length.
I think her hair is a mix of type 4 all over. I don’t know why you’re speaking like you’ve put your hands in these women’s hair to know but none of us do. Hair typing is one of the most inaccurate ways to understand natural hair. It all looks different.
@@LethalLemonLime lmao her hair is long. the twins hair are just super long. if she were to straighten her natural hair you would see how long it truly is. you can have long hair and not look like repunzal.
@@LethalLemonLime Skai’s hair has always been down her back though. Even in it’s curly state, which we can see from her old Jessie episodes. It’s definitely long, it’s just not straight.
@@LethalLemonLime her hair is definitely long...
How y'all gone tell this young lady and her stylist what type of hair she has? Not all 4c hair looks the same. Same as with other types of hair.
Ya know what I'm starting to think? I think that Africans have 4C all over their entire head while children of the diaspora that are 4C majorily but may also have varying degrees of 4A and/or 4B throughout their heads...
@@jojosmom8819 african countries have different hair types
@@jojosmom8819 that was so ignorant, and honestly I’m getting second hand embarrassment from your comment. Know that sub-Saharan Africans are the most genetically diverse group. we come in different shades, different hair types, and very different features
Cuz they're hating.
@@jojosmom8819 You really thought you had an epiphany huh? Educate yourself on Africa and its people. They are not a monolith. You sound ignorant and dense, generalizing an entire continent based on a handful of people that you've crossed paths with in your life. Childish.
4c doesn't look the same on everyone. You guys are turning into 'are you 4c' police
Right!!!! Especially 4c with different porosities and hydration levels!!! They're going to look different.
Girl that’s what I’m sayinggg
exactly it’s so mf annoying 🙄 like calm down there’s different densities and Porosities and obviously if your hair is less dense the curl pattern is going to show more and it’s going to look thinner 🙄 like 4C doesn’t only look one way. For example, Halfrican Beaute is 4C and her hair doesn’t look like Chizi’s
There's a difference between having different 4c hair, then having just kinky/coily hair. Her hair doesn't appear to be 4c at all tho.
@Ya Sha but what about density , porosity and strands??
There are so many shades of black skin, there is as many types of “4c” hair.
@@medi2743 if you are on your profile you're not light skin
I have the same problem with the natural hair community they are quick to tell you that you’re not 4c just because it’s not thick or coarse! I have fine 4c hair and because my hair is fine it is easier to define my curls with products but I am definitely type 4c.
Agreed
Ha ?
HOW? Like I’m really trying to understand how there can be many types of ONE type of hair type!
It annoys me when ppl wanna tell others what hair type they are💀 like its not ur hair and its not killing u?
Honestly like ARE THEY PAYING YOU? 😅
exactly 😂
isn't that what this whole channel is pretty much about tho lol
I get it to a certain extent. I’m going to say something if someone with “3a” hair says that they’re “4b”
4C means the strands of your hair are literally a specific pattern. and skye’s are not that pattern AT ALL. so it makes absolutely no sense. it’s literally the same as someone like beyoncé calling themselves dark skinned. it’s not only wrong but it’s insulting to people who actually ARE.
So what people fail to understand is that even within the so-called 4c hair category, there is such a wide range of textures. I have 4 sisters, we're all 4c, but each of us is a different type of 4c. One of us has 4c hair that feels like a cotton cloud, and another has hair whose individual strands feel as thick as wire. In the days of the creamy crack no relaxer known to man could get her hair fully straight. She'd have that thing on for hours, her scalp would burn, and it still wouldn't lay! The remaining 3 of us fall in the middle of that spectrum. 2 of us have 4b in the very front and the rest is thick voluminous 4c. The very youngest of us 5 has 4c throughout, but with very densely packed strands. After being loose natural for so many years, 3 of us now have microlocks lol. I say all this to say - 4c hair is a very wide spectrum. The categorization "4c" only describes one characteristic of a person's hair. There are other qualities/characteristics that could then make your hair much easier to detangle or manage, or much more difficult to handle.
Wow!!
The age of the creamy crack lmao😭💀💀
Right! I don't fit into any category so I just stopped trying to go by one but instead by what my hair likes. I don't have patience to try to figure out the category lol
This is so true, I always wonder why other girls with 4c hair looks different from mine in certain hairstyles but I’ve realized that not all 4c hair is the same.
So true my hair is 4c but is wiry and/or spongy and I sometimes think my hair isn't 4c cause many 4c haired ppl hair look different cause some shine or sheen and some are seem wiry or spongy or cottony and then you gotta take into consideration porosity on how well moisture and product is absorbed like its never gonna be a exact fit with any way to type hair just like personality typing systems o.o
I didn't realize the natural hair community still obsessed over patterns, letters, and numbers. Okay den.
I abandoned that years ago lol
One day we will outgrow this. I just hope people will understand our hair can't be put in 3 boxes of letters and numbers. There is a gazillion of "type 4" hair not just 3!!!
@@Candicedickinsonllc same. I just could not with them....
Exactly
It’s a toxic community
She has 4C hair. It’s just the softer end of the spectrum. Not all 4C hair has the same curl pattern.
Yeah it does. 4c literally refers to the pattern of the curl. Did you mean texture?
Yes all 4c does have the same curl pattern. The hair typing system is literally based on curl pattern and lack there of. This is the problem. Many people don’t understand the hair typing chart.
@Maya it’s not inaccurate but it doesn’t account for some things such as porosity and thickness.
@@alexish8183 I think it’s inaccurate because in cosmology school it’s not taught that (chart) was made up by a stylist it doesn’t make sense when I graduated and learned hair Chile I was so misinformed ✌🏾
@@scorpiostingstung My sister is a natural hair stylist and she prefers not to use the chart because even hair with similar pattern can still be very different. The chart accurately accounts for the various hair textures but at this point I would prefer people not use it because most people don’t understand it anyway.
I'm probably more like 4a/b, but I have noticed that the longer my hair grows, the more my curls are more apparent. My armpit length hair looks significantly different than when I was at shoulder length.
Completely misread the end of your comment and I genuinely thought you were talking about your armpit hair😂😂😂
pun intended 😏
YES!! I agree! Starting my hair journey, I know my hair was/is 4c by it's low porosity and zig zags and the way it dries. But as it grew and was natural for longer and the quality of products improved, by curls have become very apparent. But I still see my hair as 4b/4c.
I definitely feel like this a point that could be kept in mind for these videos. I had hair that appeared more 4c when it was shorter, and now I’m always complimented on my hair texture. But nah, sis, that’s the weight.
@@nokulungamthembu581 the way I cackled when I read your comment🤣🤣🤣
People have to realise that the longer your hair gets the more the curls will stretch. Also if you KEEP your hair stretched like Skai usually does it will appear looser than it actually is. Also 4c in itself covers a wide range of textures and patterns. Just like two people can be dark skinned and still not be the exact same shade. Maybe her hair isn’t 4c and its something else but the possibility that it is, is just as high
I feel like her curl pattern looked looser in the beginning of the video bc she had left over gel in it
And maybe also cos it was wet
same i have same hair as her but when it’s wet it looks looser when it’s dry it deffo looks 4c
@Bless W not true. That depends on your hair specification 4c is a hair category and within it everyone differs you hair could grow outwards or upwards or downwards, be thick or thinner or low porosity or high porosity. There are so many hair textures with sooo many different women you can’t just box it in. If you have a mixed history your 4c may be different to a pure blooded Africans 4c in Africa.
@@jasminclarke9309 if they’re “mixed” and their hair is 4C, it’s still going to shrink a lot when wet or else they don’t have 4C hair. 😅 There’s a youtuber (forgot her name) who’s biracial and has 4C hair and her hair shrinks up just like the rest of us lol.
@Nick The Great where I'm from you could definitely tell especially when we were young and didn't use product. Didn't call it 4c then just steel wool for the hard one or cotton wool/ spongy but they were all 4c
Her hair looks to be 4b/c. It doesn't look that different to yours. It's just longer
Right
exactly
YEP
Yeah, the length weighs it down and stretches it
rightt!! i think that when your hair gets longer the curls look looser so 🤷🏽♀️
Skai: “so i’m gonna take this water”
Chizi: “okay it looks she’s spraying water”
lmaoo she told you what she was doing😂
You know you petty! 🤣
😂😂😂
I think her hair is 4c but her strands are fine and looks like she has low to medium density hair and she looks low porosity cause when she sprayed the water it took a while for the water to soak into her hair, but when she was putting the water and conditioner on her hair you really didn’t see her hair curl up, so I’m confused why people saying she has 3c or 4a, not all 4c hair is the same you have to look at strands, density and porosity ☺️
Exactly!!
I have 4c hair that is fine and has a curl pattern. These people getting on my nerves with 4c only looks one way mentality
I think people are looking for the intense shrinkage, but like you said there are different ways the pattern can come out.
People saying she has 3c hair are ignorant😭. 3c hair has a CURL. Like its a richer curl but its always very clearly a curl. Skai's hair did not curl up like that. You can very clearly tell its type 4 hair. But because her haur is long it cause the curl to elongate.
So true my hair is like Skai and I think it’s low porosity
Her hair is 4C and if you watched her as a younger child on TV you could tell. The longer your hair grows, the more it stretches. And don’t forget there’s different porosities, densities, etc. there’s not strictly just one type of “4C” hair. There can be thicker 4C’s and thinner 4C’s and the thinner your hair is, the more your curls will show. Also keep in mind the length and the porosity. 💓 I actually think she’s 4C, her hair doesn’t look much different than Chizi’s but it’s just longer.
People saying her hair is 3c, I dont see it. I belive there are very different 4c hair (her front of the hair looks 4a/b). It just seems her hair doesn't shrink much, so it has length, thus giving this more blown out look. I've come to the conclusion that the hair typing is weird because even within certain labels, everyone's hair is unique.
Exactly. It looks blown out, just like my hair.
When I was much younger and in my teens I wasn't allowed to get a perm. My way of dealing with the pain of extremely dense thick strands 4c hair was to grease my hair really good and thread up my hair in 4 large sections the minute I walked in the door. I did this EVERY, SINGLE, DAY. After a while, especially when I got to bra strap length, my hair started looking kinky straight like a blow out even at the end of a long day. I remember a classmate of mine legit came at me for saying my hair was still 100% natural. She wouldn't believe it and I was so pissed than I refused to explain why my hair had become like that 😅 Unless I actually poured water in it you couldn't see the evidence of a curl. Hair has something called memory. Keep it permanently stretched for weeks on end and it will "remember" to stay that way. At least until wash day.
@@hawtnsweet i am not allowed to get a perm either, and I am in my teens. Greasing is good, and a lifesaver. Black girl hair is a whole job
@@hawtnsweet yes same thing only I have majority 4a hair. The top of my hair looks 3c or looser even, after I do slick back or stretched hairstyles for a while. But once I wash my hair well, define my curls and let it dry, it looks 4a.
It could also be 4C (or 4b/c) hair with low density. The curls show more and are able to clump a little better.
I feel like her hair is 4c. Looks like mine, and I have 4c hair. I know a lot of people don’t subscribe to the notion that the weight of longer hair can make the curl pattern appear looser. When my hair was shorter, I had much tighter coils.
Her hair isn't 4c, at least not much of it is 4c. My hair is longer now but i don't have any significant loosening of the coil as a result. My hair is like hers in most areas. From the moment i big chopped, my front and crown had a life of its own with like an 'S' pattern different from the back of my hair . it was loose, and always till this day looks blow dried. I cut it so many times thinking it was damaged until i realised it was just a different texture to the rest.
Lmao can we stop this 4c argument argh!
Anyone who did a big chop, started from a TWA and progressed to armpit length or longer can attest to this. The weight of my hair definitely stretched out my curl. It would still shrink up tight if I wet it and left it to dry without stretching; but no way as tight as when it was a TWA.
@@sedsa097 I completely agree. I made a comment about this very thing somewhere else in this comment section. It's the products and the constant stretching. I didn't even use heat - just African threading, but it was always stretched in some form of the other. I never let it fro; I couldn't afford to 'cos I was in boarding school and 100% responsible for my hair care. Nobody wanted to touch me because of the density of my hair (it was a whole day's job lol). But you're absolutely right. Hair does have memory.
I’ve seen tight long 4c hair but again everybody’s hair different so
She has beautiful hair. Who cares if its 4 whatever. She has some lovely, healthy afto textured hair.
It matters because Black women with 4c hair started the nappy trend, only to be erased from their own space. If people labelled their video accurately, it would help people with actual 4c hair reach the content they need.
@@moustik31 I don't care about the curl pattern. Therefore it doesn't matter to me.
RIGHT DOESNT MATTER!
@@Ducky190 Then say that, instead of roping people in your stup*d take. 🙄
This is exactly why I don't care about the curl typing system. I said what I said and I can say it anyway I like. You disagree that's fine with me. Keep it moving. No need to be rude about it.
In before people come in start claiming she has "3C hair" 🙄
Her hair is healthy, thick, and luscious. That's all that matters in my opinion😊
I agree, why does her type matter. I just see healthy hair.
Nothing wrong with having 3C hair
@@GypsyVictorious There isn't anything wrong with 3c hair. Skai just doesn't have it.. 3c is more of a Yara Shahidi type texture. And Skai is definitely not that lol.
@@GypsyVictorious Of course there isn't. It's just that some people think her hair isn't 4a-4c because it's long and healthy. Some people were claiming her texture is too loose to be in the 4 category.
It’s not 3c bc mine hair is 3c and it looks nothing like hers .
Chizi: Oh she's 18, she's a child.
18 yr old me: I'm a child? Okay, lol😂
Lol, yes and try to enjoy every minute of it!
@@gwenbby2 thank you, I will 😊
Lol we can never win😂
Enjoy it honey. After awhile you will be saying the same thing 😂
I’m 15 I’m just looking
My hair is 4c and definitely seems more like hers when it’s well hydrated. Agreed, cute routine and let’s just all love and value its health above everything 😊
I'm a white man with the straightest hair possible and now somehow my recommended page is full of videos about 4C hair and it's just gonna keep going cuz I'm watching them all out of curiosity lmao
We’re happy to have you Nick.. Welcome lol 😉
@@brittanyr1456 thank you hahah
lmao love that
Yesss!! Thats awesome! Welcome!
No one cares nick
When will we be released from the shackles of the hair typing system
Amen sis I totally agree. Just another form of self hatred. You aren’t socially accepted if your hair isn’t a certain texture. Anyone who asks my hair type I always say healthy and absolutely gorgeous. Periodt
It's actually a helpful system when styling your hair, people just turned it into negativity.
Kayla NevaCared read this article abt the guy the guy who made it: www.mellohair.ca/blogs/news/the-disappointing-truth-about-the-most-popular-hair-chart . With that being said, it was always negativity. I do see your point in a way, though.
@@janice184 yeah that's pretty when I meant by people just turned it negative but it could be helpful. Like where they were talking about searching up a specific hair type. And information about that hair type. But most of the negativity around it people made negative or just start researching their hair. Which most people should be researching their own hair anyways. But I can see what you guys mean too.
@@kamortegagarcia3442 oh ok, I see your point now.
Some of these comments are crazy. Just love the hair on your head and find what works best for you. These charts are not the end all be all. I still don't really know my type because its different all around. And guess what, I don't really care. At the end of the day I'm happy to have healthy natural hair and I fall in love with it more and more every day. Who cares if she's 4c or not. She's happy, healthy, and beautiful either way. Let that girl live.
Way back in the day (lol), I heard of using conditioner right before shampoo to make sure it’s less stripping. I tried it myself but.... I mean.... just... use... shampoo.... and.... deep condition.... after 😉
Yeah I think it's best to search for a good hydrating shampoo that cleanses without overly stripping your hair. If the pre poo step is nourishing then your hair hopefully won't suffer as much from the shampooing.
I go straight to deep conditioner. No time!🤣
😂😂😂
That's what I do and I use my deep conditioner as a leave in. Two less products I need to buy...although I alternate among three different deep conditioners (but that's for another story).
@@fadesaye i do exactly that. I learned that from a smaller youtuber years ago. I use to do all 50 - 11 steps for wash day. It was an Olympic relay damn near. 🙄 Then I changed thanks to the video i saw. I will never go back.
I like to think that hair types are like skin tones. For example, skin tones highly vary and don't just come in 'light, medium, and dark.' Same with hair textures. Type 4 hair has a lot of variation and is does not strictly fit into just three categories we call a, b, and c. Many people have multiple curl patterns and textures throughout their hair. I think putting type 4 hair into strict boxes can make it even more confusing for naturals just trying to figure out how to best care for their hair when their hair does not exactly fit in any one of the categories. Skai Jackson has beautiful, long TYPE 4 hair. Her hair may not be exactly 4c specifically in the front where we can see it, but keep in mind that 4c hair does not have one specific look. Other factors come into play besides curl pattern such as density, porosity, fine/thick strands, and texture.
Exactly. There's just too much variety to fit us all into a few hair types
But 4C is very tight. This argument does not work. If 4C comes in 4A, 4B, AND 4C, then why have a separate identification for all? Exactly, 4C is diverse, but not that diverse.
@@bryceburger_ read her last sentence again. thats why
@@BladexZero12 But people have been saying even the front of her hair could be 4C bc “4C is so diverse”. But 4A cannot be considered 4C or else it’ll mislead people who want hair advice.
@@bryceburger_ Yes 4C is very tight. I am just pointing out that 4C is not a one size fits all look. And type 4 hair is more diverse than just three letters. Each letter within type 4 should even have its own subcategories.
Just cause her 4c don't look just like yalls doesn't mean it's not 4c ago cares anyways
I think she has a mixture of type 4s people forget that having several textures of hair is pretty common.
This is why I prefer the GreenBeauty Hair Chart. Because this 4c thing makes no sense. Persons can have different coils but just as much kink. In green Beauty there's a I, S and O i believe.
Yeah, I think it’s called LOIS hair typing
Yes and the chart also tells you about texture and porosity, sheen/shine etx unlike Andre's system. I hope they expand it one day.
Yesss Green Beauty's chart over this 1,2,3,4,a,b,c🙄anyday!!! It's more exhaustive!
Titania, I've been scrolling, looking for someone that mentioned GreenBeauty's Hair Chart. Hers makes so much more sense.
Yep. My middle child has loose (3b-c) curls that are coarse, dry and won’t lay with anything! My youngest has very tight curls, very smooth texture. I can lay his hair with water. Oldest has less defined, fluffy, soft Afro hair. I can also lay hers easily. Curl pattern and texture can be a number of combinations.
Wtf is wrong with our culture? We always try to find a way to shut each other down it’s hella weird
White supremacy got us under lock and key😒
@@jungwonscactus9425 or we can take accountability for our own issues, so quick to blame white people when they don’t even give af about us 😃
@@bambam-jo6ek that sounded very ignorant. The root of our problems will always lead back to white beauty standards and black erasure caused by white people. They colonized us which ruined our outlook on each other. Yes, we should fix these issues on our own now, but we did not cause our own suffering.
Yep but meanwhile Chizi hair looks stupid af and like it actually took a lot of time to do wtf? The color or the braids isn't blonde it's hay colored wtf is that?
I'm afro Hispanic and do you mean black culture in general bc there's different cultures
I think a lot of people neglect to realise that 4a-c isn't the only type of hair out there for us kinky ppl. Kinky straight is a real thing without being blow dried. A lot of black ppl have kinky hair that just doesn't have a curl pattern. It's straight for the most part just with texture. Lol just like how there straight, wavy and curly hair, kinky folks can fall under any just with the extra dash of kinky😂😂
Yep! And wavy too - runs in my family
@@ChiziDuru amen sister😂 in mine too
Yeah me too. I don't have any curl pattern. Whether it is dry or moisturized, no curl pattern, nothing. I think kinky straight is a real thing too
@@rositabatoum7452 yes girl. But we've gotten to a place where we've allowed people to put us in the little box that says you have to be this or that because there's nothing else that you could possibly be. We're so unique as black ppl girl, it's mind blowing
@@alexxalexander7409 Yeah it is. That's why I am so glad to see people venturing out to discover all of them and to have these discussions we afe having. I feel like by time we are having our babies, they will be rocking their fros more than we have ever been able to.
Never have I ever clicked on a video this fast 😂 also I didn't know Skai had an accent, I don't hear it 😂
It’s that new yorka tounge !!
@Lee Reed Listen to how she says “also” at 2:09
I immediately thought the same thing then realized she was referring to a specific American accent that she was hearing. Everyone has some sort of accent. We just hear our own accents so much that we don’t notice them
everyone has an accent..
@@phoneaddict9902 no wonder! as a new yorker i couldn't tell
I know she's 18 now, but she'll always be the little "Band-aid" girl to me 😄😄🥰
Ohemgee yess i remember
Her hair is whatever she says it is. And it’s beautiful.
"Just subscribe, it is free" I adore that line, never gets old 😂😂
Look at Skai supporting Naptural85 with the Melanin products
I've definitely done that put conditioner on my hair with shampoo.Because sis I have thick long type 4 okay.Sometimes a sister is scared her hair will tangle with just shampoo.
how about a cowash?
My hair does tangle with the shampoo! i can't seem to find a moisturizing one with a lot of slip...like a conditioner. lol.
You should try the curl smith co wash
@@snicole3610 ors aloe Vera
Mine tangles too if I'm not careful never thought of adding conditioner.
She looks like the human form of a black baby doll 😍
What she doing is obviously working. Her hair is beautiful.
Ok but I’m so happy she’s so incredibly educated on how to care for her hair properly and her mom taught her so well. So informational.
Yoooo can we just appreciate that even celebrities are using nap85 products SIS POP OFF!!!
I think also a possibility would be that she seems to keeps her hair stretched a lot of the time, so that could loosen the pattern over time.
Exactly
Why are you guys so pressed about 4 C hair ?Who cares!!Hair is hair !
She has a beautiful and healthy natural hair, that's the most important thing 🤗
I think they need to leave her alone, she's so pretty i wish i had her hair!!!
You sound mighty precious.
I think her hair is 4c. When my hair was shorter, it was very tightly curled and kinky and clearly 4c. Now my hair is in locs and waist length. The roots of my locs seem like a completely different texture from when my hair was short and not locked. The length and weight of you hair can make it appear to be a different curl pattern.
Yes that's how I wash my hair. I put conditioner in my hair, with the conditioner still in my hair I put shampoo on hair... mix it all up. It works great
I love these reaction videos
Would love to see you react to others making DIY hair products!
@@tresha835 That’s interesting lol
She looks more 4b than 4c
She has both
Both. My hair is like that too my front and back is 4a/b crown is 4b/c
lol thanks hair police
@@Candicedickinsonllc here's some Vitamin S,T,F, and U. Remove the toxin and cleanse your body
Skai is so cute 😍 she looks like a doll with her huge eyes! But I noticed she used an oil and her hair and you said you do as well.
A bunch of black hair professionals like @camillejanae and @jenniferrosenyc have been educating people on natural hair on Twitter and they said that we shouldn’t use oils and butters on our hair at all and that our hair doesn’t need even need a leave in if we use a quality shampoo/conditioner. They said all we need is a clarifying shampoo 1x a month, shampoo and condition weekly, and a styler. I thought they were tripping at first, but I’ve been trying it out for a month and my hair feels AMAZING! I’d love to see you do a video trying out a simple routine to see if it works for you 💕
Chizi: SO YEAH SHE'S SAYING HER HAIR IS BLABLABLA
The girl: *whispering* sowhatimgonnadoiswashmyhair
For the past two to three years I’ve been using a 2 in 1 shampoo and conditioner, then I put a different brand of conditioner on after washing the first out. My hair comes out great afterwards, 4C hair here!
What 2 in 1 shampoo/condition do you use?
@@relatv216 I use the ‘Organics’ 2 in 1 - anti dandruff shampoo and conditioner. It’s a light green bottle.
Okay but chizi's braids are giving 🤩
Lol her hair looks like mine when it’s straight from a slick pony. Stiff, straight, tangled, and DRY.
You are just glowing absolutely beautiful✨😍
Sis is living her best life with these knotless braids lol sis been glowing tho
I’m soo tired of everybody acting like black hair is soo damn hard to manage or style ..
It’s truly NOT‼️🤦🏽♀️😔
In my opinion we have the best hair fuck what society says.
I think it's hard to manage because of these steps...you can just wash and leave the bathroom like white people. YOU have to take ages to detangle.
Girl it's hard 🙄I stopped going to the salon because they don't like when I go there it's too tiring doing my hair. I have been doing it myself and washing and styling takes me like 3hrs 😩I'm at a point where I'm considering perm 🤷
@@LaGoKenyane but even then it’s really not that hard..
You have to know what to use
A simple detangler is easy to use.
How is it that we know know how to do our daughters hair & not our own??
That’s the confusing part..
@luh.breezyyy well you’re young & you’ll learn just like I did.
Tbr that’s when I learned what I know now..
When I was younger I did mostly wash’n go type styles. That makes your hair grow too
Don’t be afraid to moisturise.. you might be dripping a little & that’s ok. Once your hair air drys you’ll be AMAZED 🤩😻‼️
I agree but we think it's easy because we grew up knowing what it takes to handle curly hair. People with straight hair think curly hair is harder to manage bc of how they grew up knowing that hair is easy and that its just hair. Natural hair can be easy for some but it takes a lot more than straight hair almost *always* . Its about perspective. Our hair is beautiful and might be easy for us but straight hair ppl are used to 25 min wash days and 10 min detangling and styling. We are also less educated about our hair from society so we all dont know a lot. We only know what we learned or were taught but straight hair ppl are taught and shown the simplicity of their hair, not the beauty and methods of natural hair. If everyone was shown everything there is to know abt natural hair nobody would struggle. Personally I found a way to take care of my hair that, in my opinion, is easy but not everyone has. And I also agree *NATURAL HAIR IS AMAZING*
To me the reason why people comment when our sisters whose hair isn't 4c but label is as is because
1. Over the centuries we are led to believe we are ugly how much more our hair
2. 4c hair isn't that easy to manage and not a lot of people really embrass it.
3. To me the most important reason is because of the younger generation
Personally when I wanted to embark on a healthy natural hair journey and came on TH-cam I was specifically looking for sisters with hair like mine (4c). I was confused alot because I will see other sisters with looser curls label their hair as 4c and I sometimes felt like there is something wrong with my hair.
I just think TH-camrs shouldn't label their hair as 4c because it gets them views or whatever reason why they do that.
I think the black race we are beginning to love ourselves more, getting more representation and beginning to love our hair more especially those with very tight curls. For the sake of the upcoming generation let's not mislead them and call a spade a spade. We are not prompting our sisters who do not have 4c but label it as so because we want to start a fight or something. All natural hair is beautiful. But I just want to come on TH-cam type any video about 4c and see 4c hair. If you think your hair has different curl patterns or not sure or don't want a specific label just title the video 'type 4 hair' as @chiziduru said. I love Skai and she has very very beautiful hair but I will say it's 4a(my opinion I could be wrong). but if she says it's 4c then it is to her, the most important thing is her hair is healthy. If you don't like this hair typing study your hair,experiment and see what works best for your hair. Let's not let this divide us but help us appreciate and love our beautiful hair. ❤️
Unpopular opinion...I think knowing your hair type is important. It isn’t the most important thing but having more information about your hair helps you make better decisions on styles, products and routines..
JESUS IS COMING SOON! GOD BLESS EVERYONE! REPENT! BE PREPARED! BE READY! I love you all
Thanks for the reminder I needed that❣️❣️
Skye definitely has 4C hair (or at least a mix of 4B/4C)
The hair typing system doesn’t do a good job of including factors other than the curl pattern/curl type that can have a huge influence on the way hair behaves.
It looks like Skye has very fine 4C hair, especially in the front. Fine 4C hair has a different look than coarse 4C hair - it’s more soft and fluffy than dense and spongy. And when it’s wet, it tends to elongate more because fine hair is usually higher porosity (so the hair absorbs water quickly rather than the water beading up on the hair).
Not to mention her hair is quite long - the weight of her hair probably elongates the curls and makes them look a little more defined (especially with a lot of gel like she had at the beginning.)
Skai is so cute man❤️❤️
I think her hair is beautiful but she honestly does not look like she has type 4c to me. I also wash my hair in sections (my hair is way shorter) and people drag on me for it lol
@Lucy Wales I've heard that argument a few times but I've seen women with long natural hair with 4c hair it does not look like hers (example Protective Princess on YT), but what I've realized what one person thinks is 4c another might not - such is the way of life
@@aminat643 Exactly!
Girl shame, my hair is no where near her, and sections is a must. I have arm pit length but my hair still shrinks up behind my hair like a mini fro smh. I also have low density so my strands are extemely thin which makes it so easg to shrink to a twa like it does.
I feel like as her hair is long her curl pattern is weighed down with product so we can’t tell but when her is dry it’s looks very much 4b/4c
@@aminat643 I'm going to look up Protective Princess because I didn't think Stars hair was 4C either...I watch a lot of 4c youtubers and I don't see any of their hair textures looking like Stars....but I don't have 4c so what do I know, lol
I wash my hair the same, it really helps, she is probably like me.... it is better to untangle my hair with the shampoo in my hair. It can be very hard to get a good scalp cleaning if I don't, and with my sensitive skin, and the fact I use grease on my scalp, my scalp would be itching like I wear a weave 😩 🤣
I do a preliminary wash, then the 2nd time I use shampoo and conditioner, then just conditioner. Sorry long.
When someone’s hair is dry, crunchy and short, yall are so quick to agree that it’s 4C.
But when someone with 4C hair has grown their hair LONG, Moisturised and the curls are defined, yall DONT EVER wanna admit that it’s 4C.
Yall need to stop stereotyping 4C hair.
4C hair can be VERY long. People Moisturise their 4C hair, AND YES, WHEN 4C HAIR IS WET, YOU CAN SEE THE SHINY DEFINED CURLS.
That doesn’t make their hair “3C” , It’s still 4C.
Yall see long, defined, moisturised 4c hair and think that it’s ‘Too Good to be 4C, definitely not 4C” no. It’s 4C. Yall just don’t wanna admit that 4C is GORGEOUS.
There are many different types of 4C, not all of them look the same. And 4C is A CURL PATTERN so stop saying it’s “not 4c” whenever a 4C person wets their hair and shows the shiny curls.
4c is the CURLIEST hair type on the top of the chart- there’s nothing that goes past it, it’s the peak of the kinks and coils, so respect it.
Bye.
The volume difference between your video and Skai 😂 scared the ish outta me 🤣😂 I have no clue what Skai is saying b/c I have to keep the volume low.
Skai doesn’t have 4C hair 😂 type 4, yeah but, not 4C. those same professionals were the ones telling us we HAD to relax our hair every 6wks but, never told us how to care for our black hair 😒😂
She has 4c, I have the same hair and have been told the same thing.
I’m glad people are saying this. I come from a line of licensed hairdressers..... this was never a thing in school, and your hair changes with age and hormones. And if you are growing it for long length, the weight/ density also changes your hair type. Stop the madness, we are just segregating coils and kinkiness. The important factors are density, absorbing/hydration some people need finer oils, some need rehydration and butters and creams, and some just need plain old grease. If your zinc is low or you have thyroid, or pcos issues the hair line, nape will be brittle or fall out. Drink lot of water.
As a 4c natural with a few 4b & 4a strands eye am realizing how important porosity is. Eye learned how to care for my hair so much more watching videos about porosity than hair type bc the length of my hair never matches the length of the person in the video. So it was hard for me to rlly master everything. But now, growing it out for the umpteenth time…eye’m better equipped.
I think she has 4B. Her stylist are refering to the thickness of her hair and the porosity. I dont think they know what types just like you said lol.
Or maybe they do because they actually have access to see her hair in person 🤔
She definitely doesn't have 4b she has 4b.5 lol cause my hair is 4 b and it isn't that kinky
I just classify her as type 4- seeing her old videos as a baby, toddler and child I always think she's between 4b/a perhaps she has a small section of c...but talking as a whole! usually, hair channels just say 4 type to make it easier
don't tell her what type of hair she has.
There a huge part of the natural hair community that feel the need to clock everyone’s hair/routines. There’s more than 1, 2 or even 3 ways to do 4c hair. What works for you, doesn’t work for everyone. The fact that you approach this video with grace is refreshing to not watch someone yell are everyone else smh
I think she's adorable. I really don't care to know what her hair type is. Hair is hair and has different needs. She did a great job caring for her hair.
Not me binge watching your videos and learning something that I think isn’t spoken about. You do be educating me girl and I’m here for it ❤️
I don't even know about hair typing, but one thing that I believe is that people identify with what is the majority on their head. I have 4c at my edges and some places where I can find 4a, but the majority of my head is 4b and I identify as 4b. Some people may dominantly have 4b at the back/middle section and 4c in the front in the crown and front section making them 4b/4c. Also, curl pattern and hair texture should not be made interchangeable because that's why people think that 4a has to be silky (even though it can be cottony/spongy) and why 4c cannot have ANY visible definition hence people thinking their hair is 4c because they may not see their curls at first. People are so used to seeing 3c/4a and 4b/4c mixtures which is why sometimes we don't know what 4c hair truly looks like or even another hair type. It's very common to have different curls on your head which can be pretty cool except when it might be time to detangling lol. That's just my opinion
This is what hydrated 4C hair looks like. We do have curls like everyone else they just need plenty moisture to become defined
5:54 I've mixed conditioner with my shampoo if the shampoo feels too harsh...it started from mixing conditioner with dish soap to strip out temporary colour, bc pure dishsoap makes my hair feel like it might snap in the shower. mixing conditioner lets me really lather the soap/shampoo into the mids/ends without make a tangled nightmare. The dishsoap really lathers so i usually have to cowash it a few times to get the bubbles out completely :/
I cannot wait til y’all get over this.
I don’t understand why people are acting like charting here is a division. it’s important to know what your hair type is and how to better take care of it. In the process of knowing where am I here falls in this chart I was able to do more precise research and get more precise information that works better for my hair type. And I think it’s important for younger people or people are interested in maintaining natural hair to really needs know what hair type they have and how to better take care of that hair. At the end of the day it’s important to know that not all here are the same as important to know what works for you and Why works for you as well as better representation.
It’s not about dividing us and putting number as label label it’s really just so we can do better research more focus oriented research.
Your hair style in the video is absolutely gorgeous. Like my eyes kept bringing me back to it through out the whole video
I have a mixture of 4b and 4c hair ( mostly 4b ) but when I wasn’t taking care of my hair, and it was dry and rlly messy. . . everyone would say oh yea 4c. But now that I take care of it and it’s soft and moisturized all the time now everyone wants to switch up. But I went to a hair stylist and they told me I had a mixture of both.
Eh! I'm early!!! 2 minutes ago, what a privilege.💖💖
Everyone: discussing hair type gatekeeping
Me: she looks 12 and 32 at the same time wut
She looks no where near 32
@@daniellalove143 literally.. she looks 18 at most
nor 12
Yes, I have added some conditioner on top of shampoo in the past because the shampoo I was using caused mad shrinkage and tangling. Adding the conditioner helped to keep my curl pattern elongated and easier to detangle/ clean. But now I've found products my hair loves and no longer have those issues!!!!
And definitely type 4. Her hair is pretty
6:51 I HAVE THAT SAME DRESSING GOWN THING!!! THE BLUE ONE WITH THE PEACOCKS OMG OMG OMG OMG 😱👏🏾👏🏾🌟🤍
is this a reaction or a critique?😬 sheesh
I’m wondering the same thing. Like this chick is pretty preoccupied with how others treat and classify their hair ,but has a natural hair setback like every season.
@@divatgirl 👀👀👀👀
I think understanding your hair by porosity is more important than hair type. Of course certain things might not work specially for a ‘type’ but that's because we should understand what our hair necessarily needs.
I have 4C and I have experienced different lengths. The shorter my hair is the more it looks like 4c. The longer and heavier it gets the more "questionable" my claim to 4C is.
Chizi is so unproblematic😂
Man enough of these hair typing systems.
i love your energy you’re literally the frickin cutest 🥺🥰
I have the type of 4c hair that skai has...Nobody gonna tell me otherwise...However I have taken into consideration that I could be 4b 4c but that's as far as I'm going... Cause my front is softer and everywhere else is extra thick...
I have 4c and the longer my hair got the more elongated my coils got. Hair type doesn’t change once it passes a length-
I think shemight have 4c hair. Every time I see 4c naturals with mid back or waist length hair it seems looser. Her hair is just so long the pattern appears loose.
Am.here for skai jackson,but that eye makeup,umh chizy,finally am here for this more🥰
I have 4c hair, Chizi has 4c hair...no gel can hold my hair meanwhile I have seen her slay styles with gels and edge controls. SHe can do washouts I can't. Everyone just do you because you will go crazy
How can someone else tell you what kind of hair you have. Like, you can’t tell someone that your hair is not or is 4c, 4b, or 4a. However, I love your videos. I watch them everyday. Keep making videos. Never stop!