History-Makers: Machiavelli

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  • @asch304
    @asch304 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3070

    I can't believe this incredibly historically villianized man used to cosplay ancient rome by himself in his room to calm himself down, I mean talk about escapism

    • @Midorikonokami
      @Midorikonokami 4 ปีที่แล้ว +195

      Also, he trolled so hard everyone took him seriously and called him a villain.

    • @Bluecho4
      @Bluecho4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      That's the power of LARP for you.

    • @f.boogaloospook2318
      @f.boogaloospook2318 4 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      @@Midorikonokami the first romeaboo

    • @messianic_scam
      @messianic_scam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he was deluded

    • @knobgoblin
      @knobgoblin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You're talking about Blue now, right? I wouldn't call him "historically villainized". Misunderstood, sure.

  • @TheTrainmobile
    @TheTrainmobile 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3510

    "It is my intention to write a book that will be useful, at least to those who read it intelligently..."
    I know a clap back when I see one. What an absolute savage.

    • @cloudkitt
      @cloudkitt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      Kind of a clap forward

    • @Krahazik
      @Krahazik 5 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      Apparently there were lots of people back in the day who missed that line, or couldn't comprehend what it ment. Same thing.

    • @robertdicke7249
      @robertdicke7249 5 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      @@Krahazik It seems American public schools cant comprehend what that line means cause when I was taught about this dude I was taught this guy is a scheming tyrant and like the sheep try not to be I never questioned this until it was brought to my attention to just now.

    • @DaBeezKneez
      @DaBeezKneez 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Complete biased rhetoric by the creator of this content. Instead of just giving facts and information, every sentence he regurgitates has his subjective opinion.

    • @robertdicke7249
      @robertdicke7249 5 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@DaBeezKneez He gave only facts and information, "information" includes opinions as in he "informed" you of his opinion. Also all opinions are subjective so describing one as such is redundant.
      If all you want is the straight facts of things then you need to go to a different reality. Philosophically speaking you can only know one thing which is that you exist. Even with basil assumptions anything beyond your scope of experiences relies on accepting the assertions of other sources. Even if you decide that mass consensus is sufficient(which would require you to accept several religions that contradict into your life if applied as a standard) then even then things like history still wont qualify. History is based on peoples interpretations of accounts and evidence then cross referencing them for reliability, even when deemed reliable these things still are free from spreading miss information. So you will not get any "facts" with this subject friend. What you are REALLY looking for is a specific persons or group of peoples opinion that you in your own lack of understanding for some reason accept the assertion that they are most qualified to give.
      Or one can accept its difficult to be sure of knowing much of anything and that 1 of any number of different claims to the same question can happen to be the correct.
      Perhaps hearing all the claims is more enlightening then closing your mind to only one possibility.

  • @Yora21
    @Yora21 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5204

    You either become a famous political analyst, or you troll so hard that you go down in history as a villain.

    • @rawovunlapin8201
      @rawovunlapin8201 5 ปีที่แล้ว +244

      In the end, I think that what we can learn from Machiavelli is that trolls truly are the greatest villains of all

    • @AshenDruid
      @AshenDruid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      @@rawovunlapin8201 But sometimes they can be the kind of villains you love to hate

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux 5 ปีที่แล้ว +126

      I've learned writing a book ironically is a bad idea. Karl Marx had sarcasm in his manifesto and a century after the fact and translated into another language and the context behind the "joke" is long gone.

    • @twistedtachyon5877
      @twistedtachyon5877 5 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      @@Edax_Royeauxtruth. machiavelli gets a pass from me on account of the "it'd be nice to write this book and not be tortured afterwards" plan.

    • @saber1epee0
      @saber1epee0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This+++

  • @Flopsos
    @Flopsos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3957

    last time i was this early the *ROMAN EMPIRE WAS SAWED IN HALF* to show the power of flex tape

    • @sirapple589
      @sirapple589 5 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      But did you repair it using only the power of religion?

    • @longschlongsilver7628
      @longschlongsilver7628 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Guess Flex tape can't fix everything

    • @spookyshadowhawk6776
      @spookyshadowhawk6776 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@sirapple589 He got German flagellants in line to do it, each inspired by their own miracle whip. They were Very popular during the time of Black Death.

    • @thepacifistassassin
      @thepacifistassassin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Ah, Diocletian. Really wanted to show how well Flex Tape would work.

    • @embasorangiratina36
      @embasorangiratina36 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@thepacifistassassin It's a real shame he never realized that it hadn't been invented yet.

  • @stevenjlovelace
    @stevenjlovelace 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1067

    So Machiavelli got exiled from Florence the same way Blue got exiled from Red's comfy chair next to the fireplace. Now he's doomed to lecture from a white abyss.

    • @DarkestElemental616
      @DarkestElemental616 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      We can enjoy the improved animation, though.

    • @ryanbarrie9143
      @ryanbarrie9143 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Plot twist!

    • @joxerthemighty9148
      @joxerthemighty9148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      guess he needs to develop his own lecture playground, since history is mainly wars recorded maybe a man cave full of flags?

  • @Cheatera1
    @Cheatera1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +394

    Still sounds like Machiavelli was playing fourth dimensional chess while everyone else was failing to learn checkers.

    • @lordmanatee439
      @lordmanatee439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      He was just trying to explain checkers to idiots

    • @coltonwilliams4153
      @coltonwilliams4153 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lordmanatee439 And unfortunately, 5 fucking centuries later, the people who need to understand are still idiots!

    • @ash-bash-ash
      @ash-bash-ash ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lordmanatee439😮eiek😢❤😂j😅😂😅 Inc. BBC b bc

    • @ash-bash-ash
      @ash-bash-ash ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lordmanatee439it w😮😅 look 😮🎉 Jin oh jkjk no😅j in nthC in

    • @Chadius_Thundercock
      @Chadius_Thundercock 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The prince is actually a lot of just common sense shit

  • @joeevans5770
    @joeevans5770 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1158

    Machiavelli trying to divert a river with Leonardo da Vinci where's that mission Assassins Creed???????????

    • @BonaparteBardithion
      @BonaparteBardithion 5 ปีที่แล้ว +142

      The misadventures of Machiavelli and da Vinci would be an awesome show, especially if they decide to go alternate history with it - as people often do with da Vinci.

    • @paradoxacres1063
      @paradoxacres1063 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      It's not mentioned in Assassin's Creed (or any work of Fiction) because Leonardo da Vinci is always put on a *pedestal* so no one wants to talk about his mistakes 😅

    • @Scarletraven87
      @Scarletraven87 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It was about diggin a channel and divert the river. What they did instead was putting up some kerbstone technology at the river mouth.

    • @clockworkkirlia7475
      @clockworkkirlia7475 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@BonaparteBardithion Alternate history Leonardo Da Vinci is probably the best way to make him interesting. We got the least productive possible Leonardo, and he had so many amazing ideas!

    • @aubreyhuff46
      @aubreyhuff46 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@clockworkkirlia7475 Well that's because many great men such as Leonardo get lost in time. They never are found to be great by those of the time. If he was given proper backing he couldve moved Medicine and mechanical technologies by a good bit of time.

  • @Syryu
    @Syryu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2569

    Super Villain: It is as Machiavelli said! 'It's better to be feared than loved!'
    Heroically Informed Protagonist: Actually Machiavelli meant that in a situation where you had to choose between fear and love, fear was safer, but a ruler had to work so he wasn't flat out hated.
    Villain: ....What?
    Protagonist: Yeah. And Machiavelli was very much for the Republic and people working together for the greater good of the Republic. So....by trying to put the entire world under your rule, you're actually going against just about everything Machiavelli stood for.
    Villain: What! But... I!
    Protagonist *Holds up the Prince* You never actually read this book thoroughly and intellectually did you?
    *Cue Villainous Breakdown*

    • @merrittanimation7721
      @merrittanimation7721 5 ปีที่แล้ว +176

      Reading the classics: it'll save your life some day.

    • @federicoarmada8775
      @federicoarmada8775 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      How does “putting the entire world under your role” contradict the whole “people working together for the greater good”? Aren’t people in the so called free republics competing against his compatriots for who gets enough money to live comfortably while not caring about whatever happens to the rest of the nation? Why would a dictatorship necessarily make that worse?

    • @admontblanc
      @admontblanc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      @@federicoarmada8775 it doesn't, and I'm sure that Machiavelli (knowing full well you can't get rid of all princes just because you like democracy more) at least partly intended for the book to also advise princes on how to be better rulers. That aside, the main problem with dictatorships is that while one dictator might be a genius and improve everything a lot, people aren't eternal and good one is pften succeeded by a greedy, incompetent one. Just look at Caesar Augustus who many people consider the greatest emperor of Rome, even though he suffered multiple setbacks with his succession, even though he made enormous efforts to ensure his heir would be the best suited person possible to succeed him, in the end he had no choice but to appoint a man who had always been in the last spots of his mind to succeed him.

    • @michellevirinam2561
      @michellevirinam2561 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Federico Armada
      Dictators aren‘t neccessarily worse than democracy, but ruthless people often advance more than people who care for the general good. This leads to dictators being, generally speaking, people you wouldn‘t want to have absolute power.

    • @federicoarmada8775
      @federicoarmada8775 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@michellevirinam2561 Succession is a problem in any form of government. Better to have one person with absolute power who could be bad but also would be capable of killing off traitors, maffia bosses and pedophiles than having a constant succession of democraticly chosen traitors and pedophiles who depend on external financial support to stay in power.

  • @vermilionrubin
    @vermilionrubin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +849

    Also that (in)famous quote: 'better to be feared than loved', if I remember good, it was in the context of: 'if you can't have both... and, for the love of God, don't make people hate you'.

    • @Zajin13
      @Zajin13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +143

      Yep, pretty much. I believe to remember that he directly advised to completely destroy a political opponent rather than let them hang around alive supposedly powerless because bitter feelings linger and insulted people will never be quiet for their whole live or something along those lines.

    • @ryuj7693
      @ryuj7693 5 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      pretty much, although there is a theme in the chapter of directed fear. be cruel to those that have wronged you/ the state but not their relatives.
      he also hedges a lot of the cruelty in the context of war and concludes by saying that you can not control if the people love you but you can control their fear.

    • @kaimagnus5760
      @kaimagnus5760 5 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      "If one can not be both, It is better to be feared than loved" is the exact quote. An emphasis on the IF is needed it seems lol.

    • @minerva9104
      @minerva9104 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      kai magnus And he 100% also says that you want to be feared without being hated.

    • @kaimagnus5760
      @kaimagnus5760 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@minerva9104 Being hate almost guarantees that people will throw their lives away to see you dead so that's definitely not what a Prince would want.

  • @andyrihn1
    @andyrihn1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3199

    “Machiavelli is the most criminally misunderstood writer in history”
    Nietzsche would like to have a word with you...before he has a nervous breakdown

    • @alexanderbyrne9684
      @alexanderbyrne9684 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Nice

    • @ozkul_arda200
      @ozkul_arda200 5 ปีที่แล้ว +221

      It wasn't a nervous breakdown it was a bruh moment

    • @sirrliv
      @sirrliv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +445

      And before he laments not living long enough to literally punch Hitler in the face for forever distorting and bastardizing Nietzschian philosophy worse than Hideki Tojo did to the Bushido Code.

    • @ZachValkyrie
      @ZachValkyrie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      And I bet Orwell won't be far behind...

    • @PhileasLiebmann
      @PhileasLiebmann 5 ปีที่แล้ว +144

      Nietzsche misunderstood? Hm, nah! Abused, distorted and misappropriated by the Nazis? Yes.

  • @JaelaOrdo
    @JaelaOrdo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2937

    “Men should be either treated generously or destroyed, because they take revenge for slight injuries - for heavy ones they cannot.”
    - Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli

    • @rajkotancevic3565
      @rajkotancevic3565 5 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      I dont think it applies anymore since theres much difference in between then dueling with sharp big knifes for hurt honour to present day venting on yt comment section. : D

    • @Lord_Of_Night
      @Lord_Of_Night 5 ปีที่แล้ว +230

      @@rajkotancevic3565 It's also pretty metaphorical. An example, instead of physically wounding them, financially wounding would also prevent them from going against you.

    • @rajkotancevic3565
      @rajkotancevic3565 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@Lord_Of_Night Someone that realy wants to hurt you will find a way.Thats like saying someone wont rob you because law says so.

    • @Vespuchian
      @Vespuchian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +254

      @@rajkotancevic3565 Very true, people accepted the results of duels.
      Joking aside, the original point still stands: Machiavelli is advocating in this passage that if you have to deal with an enemy it's best to either resolve the issue magnanimously, thus removing motivation for future conflict, or defeat them overwhelmingly, so they are neither capable of later retaliation nor motivated to make the attempt. Punitively slapping down a rival might work in the short term but now they're both motivated to return the favour and still have the resources to do so.

    • @WakkaMadeInYevon
      @WakkaMadeInYevon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@Vespuchian of course everyone knows having a persistent rival makes you 10x cooler by association so Machi loses out on this one.

  • @SonofSethoitae
    @SonofSethoitae 5 ปีที่แล้ว +746

    So, Blue loves Machiavelli because he too laid awake at night thinking about Rome?

    • @TheDiplomancer
      @TheDiplomancer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Real recognize real

    • @jvtagle
      @jvtagle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      SonofSethoitae Cyan in shambles

    • @xyAKMxy
      @xyAKMxy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Any self-respecting man or woman in this day and age spends every night thinking about Rome.

    • @SonofSethoitae
      @SonofSethoitae 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@xyAKMxy Nah. Achaemenids for life.

    • @realdeanhunter
      @realdeanhunter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You don't?

  • @weldonwin
    @weldonwin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +705

    Machiavelli: *(Wearing a Beret and Glasses)* I write Political treatises ironically, not that *You* would get it

    • @stefanwalicord2512
      @stefanwalicord2512 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I love it

    • @neroblack2704
      @neroblack2704 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      To be fair they did in fact not get it.

    • @DanteTorn
      @DanteTorn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@neroblack2704 That's part of the joke weldonwin is making.
      (I'm just explaining neutrally here btw, not being like "THAT'S THE JOKE DUMBASS LOL" like you tend to see.)

    • @neroblack2704
      @neroblack2704 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DanteTorn yes, I know.

    • @unflexian
      @unflexian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      _"Egypt is in Africa"_
      - Machiavelli, 2019

  • @michaelscott6022
    @michaelscott6022 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1399

    Big Mach: "Hey, guys, so this is what I wrote..."
    Everyone else: *Proceeds to take the EXACT OPPOSITE MEANING*
    Big Mach: "...I don't want to live on this planet anymore."

    • @ThatRandomEncounterGuy
      @ThatRandomEncounterGuy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Welcome to my World. I forgot Godwin's Law.

    • @rawovunlapin8201
      @rawovunlapin8201 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Who knew that sarcasm doesn't translate well in the written word /s

    • @coreytaylor447
      @coreytaylor447 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      the bible: first time?

    • @devinsiner5489
      @devinsiner5489 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Books they are useful when you actually think about the words that are on the pages.

    • @ThatRandomEncounterGuy
      @ThatRandomEncounterGuy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Devin Siner it also helps when people don’t overanalyze your worldbuilding and write their own subtext in the margins.

  • @Pigeonswain
    @Pigeonswain 5 ปีที่แล้ว +616

    He'd DEFINITELY have a podcast if he were here today

    • @rawovunlapin8201
      @rawovunlapin8201 5 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Dude would probably rant about the virtues of republics like no other

    • @Triumph263
      @Triumph263 5 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      "So today's topic is "How to Read the Words I Wrote and Actually Understand them." cause ya'll clearly need some help with that."

    • @overgrownswamp
      @overgrownswamp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      ... And he would still be hated, because people still can't read :(

    • @petergao96
      @petergao96 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@overgrownswamp or listen

    • @coltonwilliams4153
      @coltonwilliams4153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He was a man ahead of his time… and unfortunately, our time as well.

  • @DomenBremecXCVI
    @DomenBremecXCVI 5 ปีที่แล้ว +748

    History proved that using irony as a way of writing doesn't always work as it's hard to read the tone of your voice.

    • @artofthepossible7329
      @artofthepossible7329 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      See Jane Austen,
      “It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife.” Surprisingly, never heard her be called a misogynist.

    • @bonogiamboni4830
      @bonogiamboni4830 5 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      A whole lotta problems could have been avoided if machiavelli just wrote /s at the end of the book.

    • @saastamoinen32
      @saastamoinen32 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Domen Bremec Agreed especially when reading something that has been written hundreds of years ago, understanding the context can be a bit tricky.

    • @artofthepossible7329
      @artofthepossible7329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Jo True but considering how much of Austen's work involves young women trying to find advantageous marriages in order to survive adult life, and with the current state of feminism, I would have thought that at least one reader would be outraged by such state of affairs.
      And honestly all the potential reasons for the lack of outrage I can think of surprise me just as much as the lack of outrage in the first place.

    • @somekindofflower2024
      @somekindofflower2024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@artofthepossible7329 They had nothing to look forward to in those times I guess, but I also don't wonder why such popularity today. Jane Austen is kinda idealistic, she doesn't show much of the problems and conflicts going on in that time, she wanted to write about beautiful balls, dukes and relationships, something most girls thirst for nowadays. People even love Bridgerton. But yes, I wonder why some feminists don't show any revolt towards its popularity

  • @jeremygoodwin9068
    @jeremygoodwin9068 5 ปีที่แล้ว +639

    "This stuff is comedy GOLD for the next Pope Fights."
    I'm sorry, so we're getting more Pope Fights? Color me excited!

    • @Bobberation
      @Bobberation 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Pope Fights 3 Confirmed

    • @newperve
      @newperve 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Machiavelli refers to a prince who always breaks his word and is always believed, but it's better not to name him. Hopefully he'll be in the next Pope Fight.

    • @ThomasOwOD
      @ThomasOwOD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Bobberation yes

  • @archsteel7
    @archsteel7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2154

    People who hate Machiavelli: "He's a scheming little monster who advocates for tyrants!"
    Machiavelli: "R/whoosh"

    • @anonymoussourcream3175
      @anonymoussourcream3175 5 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Thanks I hate it

    • @PhileasLiebmann
      @PhileasLiebmann 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Beat me to it

    • @bestwind4618
      @bestwind4618 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      People would then be like r/iHaveReddit

    • @thecure2685
      @thecure2685 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Today I learned that Machiavelli would've been a mobile user

    • @MaladyKayjo
      @MaladyKayjo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Archsteel r/wooooshhasfouros

  • @pridelander06
    @pridelander06 5 ปีที่แล้ว +588

    "The Senate sends its regards!" *tackled to ground*
    Probably should have ambushed Commodus at, oh, let's say, a wedding.

    • @merrittanimation7721
      @merrittanimation7721 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Maybe a gladitorial arena.

    • @johnohara4788
      @johnohara4788 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Probably should’ve cued the assassination with some bomb ass violin music too

    • @eliburry-schnepp6012
      @eliburry-schnepp6012 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Or in a bath...

    • @istvankarolyfarkas6125
      @istvankarolyfarkas6125 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Usually a person stays alive long enough to whisper them a one liner.
      It is quite hard to instantly kill someone.
      (or at least this is what I heard)

    • @camiblack1
      @camiblack1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Me:Bespoken
      Knife: Out
      I am forcibly tackled to the ground then executed.

  • @sirapple589
    @sirapple589 5 ปีที่แล้ว +881

    Finally, now I can learn what the term “Machiavellian” actually means.
    Thanks Blue, you saved me a Google search.

    • @idigamstudios7463
      @idigamstudios7463 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      The really nice thing about the breadth of work by Machiavelli is kind of a historical how too for governing. In a desperate time a of chaos the best outcome is a wise and prudent Prince to seize power and get things back in order who then has the foresight to hand over this ordered parlance and government to the republic.

    • @cloudkitt
      @cloudkitt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Well odds are if you hear someone say "Machiavellian" in the wild today, they're probably just describing something as the "ends justify the means."

    • @profezzordarke4362
      @profezzordarke4362 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@cloudkitt Or narcissist manipulative behaviour

    • @ziggystatdust6008
      @ziggystatdust6008 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You can read The Prince, probably one of his most influential books. It still has influence on some political and social interactions of society today

    • @raf015_2
      @raf015_2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      In Italian, we use two different words to talk about Machiavelli: "Machiavelliano" and "Machiavellico".
      The first one is used to describe Niccolò's works or his way of thinking, the other one is instead used as Machiavellian is commonly used in English.

  • @lorisuprifranz
    @lorisuprifranz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +319

    "During history a lot of people didn't read The Prince intelligently!"
    Mussolini: Wait, what ?

    • @BradyPostma
      @BradyPostma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      "Mussolini" and "intelligently" rarely belong in the same sentence.

    • @lorisuprifranz
      @lorisuprifranz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@BradyPostma Exactly!

    • @thatmarchingarrow
      @thatmarchingarrow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@BradyPostma
      I mean, I get all the hate Mussolini gets and everything, but there is at least one undeniably good thing Mussolini did. And that is ruining his own plans and ambitions.

    • @BradyPostma
      @BradyPostma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thatmarchingarrow Like how Hitler did do one thing right; he killed Hitler.

    • @tomasbedoya2901
      @tomasbedoya2901 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      BradyPostma You can have the political opinions you want, but you don't go from exile and jail to establishing an absolute regime centered around you if you are an idiot

  • @ErikQuintanillaMusic66
    @ErikQuintanillaMusic66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    "Machiavelli didn't write down his actual advice on governing Florence because FUCKING LEAVE would've got him tortured again"
    I'm literally rolling right now 😂

  • @ROL4NDpkmnguide
    @ROL4NDpkmnguide 5 ปีที่แล้ว +319

    As an Italian that had to study this guy’s works in school I never understood he could have been so misrepresented and misunderstood outside of Italy. Thanks for bringing historical justice as always, Blue 💙

    • @accelmemory
      @accelmemory 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I never even knew that I had been misunderstanding him. I'm American, and all we know of Machiavelli is that he was some sort of political genius (and an Assassins Creed character). Our schools aren't very good at covering relevant people, even for college level classes lol

    • @ROL4NDpkmnguide
      @ROL4NDpkmnguide 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Meta Grave God bless the quite high standards and nationalism of the Italian school system xD

    • @infamedepatates2502
      @infamedepatates2502 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Similar to how the Quixote is misrepresented outside of Spain

    • @dDoodle788
      @dDoodle788 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@ROL4NDpkmnguide it's a shame that not a lot of people get to study macchiavelli in depth, I'm glad to be an Italian in this moment.
      It is also true that the Italian public school literary curriculum tend to be pretty "nationalistic" and sometimes I wonder if beacause of this we are getting a warped wiew of foreign classics (when we actually get to study them). For example in my highschool literature book Dickens was covered in three pages and a half, and half of those were just a roast of both his language and his themes ( granted that book tended to roast minor Italian authors as well from time to time so it may not be a case of blind patriotism but of blind haderence to one's opinion ).Now put this against the multiple chapter coverage of the the English literature book that could just not stop showering him with praise.

    • @ROL4NDpkmnguide
      @ROL4NDpkmnguide 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dDoodle788 What literature book did you use in high school?

  • @Bricriu-gj9dd
    @Bricriu-gj9dd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +448

    As someone who grew up loving the idea of Machiavellian characters in writing, it's such an amazing plot twist to find out it was all a lie. But now I need a new villain to idolize...

    • @zer0w0lf94
      @zer0w0lf94 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Have you watched Code Geass or Death Note? Their protagonists should give you your fix.

    • @archsteel7
      @archsteel7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Look up Act Utilitarianism. It's a moral philosophy that while great on the surface, is based entirely on the idea of "The ends justify the means" and can get real sketchy if you apply it in certain ways. Great moral philosophy to found a villain off of

    • @trippsmythoftheaurigancoal8155
      @trippsmythoftheaurigancoal8155 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Why is he a villian? Every villian is the hero in their story...

    • @TheComicbookguy78
      @TheComicbookguy78 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Liberals is a good place to look!

    • @Vespuchian
      @Vespuchian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Try Lord Vetinari from Terry Pratchet's 'Discworld' series. Tyrant of the world's largest city state, he uses his power to make sure the whole place doesn't burn down, fall over, and sink into the swamp it's built on. An absolute master of civic-minded tyranny.

  • @davidblair9877
    @davidblair9877 5 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    5:40: France did accomplish one thing in its invasion of Italy; it discovered that Italy was
    1). Rich
    2). Divided, and
    3). Weak.
    And it then proceeded to let the rest of Europe know this.
    The results were *ahem* predictable.

    • @dcbanacek2
      @dcbanacek2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Usually when France discovers something like that, England comes along to steal it.

  • @anthonyminyard2715
    @anthonyminyard2715 5 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    4:53
    Senator: “The Senate sends its regards”
    Emperor: “I am the Senate”

    • @higueraft571
      @higueraft571 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This is getting out of hand, now there's two of them!

  • @somebox2959
    @somebox2959 5 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    “A ruler will also be respected when he is a genuine friend and a genuine enemy, that is, when he declares himself ambiguously for one side and against the other”
    The Prince Chapter 21
    Niccolo Machiavelli

    • @coltonwilliams4153
      @coltonwilliams4153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      So don’t waver and flip-flop between stances. State your views and state them honestly, and even those who oppose you will respect you.

    • @coltonwilliams4153
      @coltonwilliams4153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Literally no politician of any country knows how to do that.

  • @LunaVee3435
    @LunaVee3435 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I'm happy to tell you that when we study Macchiavelli in school in Italy he's treated as the brilliant politics writer he was. I learned much later that basically everywhere else he's this infamous figure, so much that the 17 century english sometimes called the devil Old Nick.

  • @TillHistoryEnds
    @TillHistoryEnds 5 ปีที่แล้ว +258

    "Machiavelli is the most criminally misunderstood writer in history and I am always mad about it."
    Those who read intelligently salute you.

  • @lauramarschmallow2922
    @lauramarschmallow2922 5 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    So basically... The whole world thought Maciavelli was a tyranny lover because he hadn't had a /s/ sarcasm /s/ symbol watermarked all over "the prince"?

  • @JaneDoe-er2sg
    @JaneDoe-er2sg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Thank you for this! I had no idea “The Prince” was basically the literary equivalent of “Fight Club” in widely misunderstood criticism of power-desperate men!

  • @EvilSandwich
    @EvilSandwich 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Machiavelli's The Prince is a how to guide in the same sense that Jonathan Swift's A Modest Proposal is a cookbook.

  • @Sabshark
    @Sabshark 5 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    An aspiring tyrant and a manipulator? Is this how other nations see him?
    In Italian highschool they basically gave us the same interpretation Blue gave. Only, you know, stretched out on seven hours

    • @xleplex7070
      @xleplex7070 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      In English, the word ‘Machiavellian’ is used to describe the personality trait of deceitfulness. It is even used in psychology to describe manipulators and psychopaths.

    • @Sabshark
      @Sabshark ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@xleplex7070 In Italian "Machiavellico" is instead used to mean "devilishly complicated". I'm actually surprised the English-speaking world is so hard on him.

  • @davidegaruti2582
    @davidegaruti2582 5 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    Yeah he'd be happy to know that Italy is a united republic , he'd be less happy to know how it's doing

    • @vaderbuckeye36
      @vaderbuckeye36 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      He might even say that a prince might need to temporarily restore order

    • @johnnyawe1469
      @johnnyawe1469 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@vaderbuckeye36 but there is no doubt in my mind he would hate Mussolini.

    • @davidegaruti2582
      @davidegaruti2582 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@vaderbuckeye36 no

    • @davidegaruti2582
      @davidegaruti2582 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@johnnyawe1469 well , i'll be playing devil's advocate here and say that as ignorant and uncoerent as he was Mussolini loved the Prince , and he followed it in many passages , however we would have the problem of Macchiavelli a guy from the 15th 16th century having to judge a situation from the 20th century , with no clue about the tirthy years war , the french revolution , the industrial revolution and all the new technology that existed ( the radio, industrial production , electricity ecc. ecc.) all of this considered he would probably be confused by the situation

    • @johnnyawe1469
      @johnnyawe1469 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@davidegaruti2582 Yeah, but all he'd have to know is that Mussolini is partly responsible for the constantly changing and chaotic Italian government of today. I also think he wouldn't like the fact he tried to hold onto power as long as possible one bit.

  • @tizioincognito161
    @tizioincognito161 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Macchiavelli had truly a great inpact on italian politics, now his beloved Florence hosts one of the biggest universities specialized in political science, and a few of its alumni have been some of the best presidents of the italian republic!

  • @cheybat5390
    @cheybat5390 5 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    One could argue that The Prince was a sort of proto-satire, and the reason Machiavelli got his reputation was because we didn't understand satire yet

    • @morganrobinson8042
      @morganrobinson8042 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      There's also some argument for using disingenuous reasoning to convince horrible people to good behavior in their own self-interest. He was probably just really tired of self-destructive idiots with city-states.

    • @MasteringJohn
      @MasteringJohn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I've always seen The Prince as a description of what princely governance necessarily entails (which quietly promotes republicanism by implication). Later monarchs like Frederick II criticized the book, because they wanted to believe that monarchs could serve as symbols of moral character to the people, rather than accept that the very institution necessitates abuse.

    • @FirefoxisredExplorerisblueGoog
      @FirefoxisredExplorerisblueGoog 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Satire wasn't developed after Machiavelli, though. The Greeks had a rich culture of satirical stage plays. A learned man like Machiavelli would've known about these plays because philosophers like Socrates were often written into these plays as the butt of the joke.

    • @nymphrodellsalavin
      @nymphrodellsalavin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The Satyrican was a satirical novel written in the first century AD...
      How about quasi-satire?

    • @humourlessjester3584
      @humourlessjester3584 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even now with the rise of twitter nobody ever gets it when you post satire.

  • @terre5d
    @terre5d 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    As a political science student who studied Machiavellis works i just want to say: Thank you and well done

  • @louthegiantcookie
    @louthegiantcookie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    People always acted like he was evil, but encouraging good government is actually an act of compassion. Weak leaders, after all, only cause suffering to their people, even if their intentions are good.

    • @trippsmythoftheaurigancoal8155
      @trippsmythoftheaurigancoal8155 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agreed.

    • @Archris17
      @Archris17 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Morality without power is as much a cruelty as power without morality, for it is there you see the pettiness tyrants who present themselves as saintly while their nation burns around them.

    • @Ariaelyne
      @Ariaelyne 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Archris17 half of The Prince is about discouraging cruelty.

    • @TheTrueAdept
      @TheTrueAdept 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Ariaelyne what the guy is saying is that morality without the power to back it up is just as cruel as power without morality to keep it from going overboard.

  • @devinsiner5489
    @devinsiner5489 5 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    "Let's do some God Damn History!" -*Blue*

  • @Peristerygr
    @Peristerygr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Eagerly waiting for Pope Fights that includes the Borgias.

  • @Shuru10
    @Shuru10 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I always get such strange looks when I say I love Machiavelli - mostly cause there's no context for me to bring him up 😂

  • @Pilgrim1st
    @Pilgrim1st 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    9:42 Machiavelli explicitly says in Discourses on Livy when discussing his belief that one person in a corrupted republic should seize sole power by violent means so as to be in a position to revive the republic that he believes the ends do justify the means. "The action may accuse by the result excuses'. There is an entire chapter dedicated to it.

  • @biliminsrlar5752
    @biliminsrlar5752 5 ปีที่แล้ว +860

    Last time I was this early China wasn't in a civil war.
    *Hol' up*

    • @unflexian
      @unflexian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +127

      🎵 _China is whole again_ 🎵
      🎵 _Then it broke again_ 🎵

    • @sirapple589
      @sirapple589 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Oh look there’s China aaand it’s broken.

    • @vermilionrubin
      @vermilionrubin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      I wonder if buddism will reach China before it collapses again.

    • @Technodreamer
      @Technodreamer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Free Hong Kong!

    • @devinsiner5489
      @devinsiner5489 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      China and Civil Wars. They go hand and hand.

  • @LiKuidPhantom
    @LiKuidPhantom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    assassin's creed really seems like a gateway drug to history

  • @mackielunkey2205
    @mackielunkey2205 5 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    Oh hey, it’s that guy from the Assassin’s Creed games.

    • @blamehoodohhcanada5860
      @blamehoodohhcanada5860 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too.

    • @devinsiner5489
      @devinsiner5489 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh Yes.

    • @kingofthings7929
      @kingofthings7929 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      It’s actually interesting how he’s portrayed there. On the surface, he was ruthless and authoritarian, yet allied with the freedom loving Assassins. The writers of the Ezio Trilogy did their homework.

    • @mackielunkey2205
      @mackielunkey2205 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      kingofthings7929 Man, wish they made Robespierre an Heisenbergian Assassin.

    • @jasonblalock4429
      @jasonblalock4429 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@kingofthings7929 Personally, I thought they made him a bit too ruthless... but the pairing of him and the much more idealistic Da Vinci as Ezio's main friends\advisers did make for good writing.

  • @fraincross8644
    @fraincross8644 5 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Oh, that guy. First heard of this guy from Assassin's Creed lol. The Prince being about Ezio.

    • @pancakes4552
      @pancakes4552 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Frain Cross pretty much

    • @sirapple589
      @sirapple589 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Can’t really blame him, it’s Ezio.
      Who wouldn’t write about him?
      A loser, that’s who.

    • @RenoApostoli
      @RenoApostoli 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      "I intend to write a book about you one day".
      "If you do, make it short"

    • @louisduarte8763
      @louisduarte8763 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@sirapple589 I wrote a Dos Equis commercial about him.
      He went to Leonardo da Vinci for his tech support issues.
      He inspired Niccolo Machiavelli to write "The Prince".
      He called Suleiman "magnificent" before he was Sultan.
      He is... the Most Interesting Man in the World.

    • @Borderose
      @Borderose 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@louisduarte8763 Minus the Suleiman part, I think all of that was Cesare Borgia in real life.

  • @zer0w0lf94
    @zer0w0lf94 5 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    I was just talking about him with my brother yesterday in relation to Lelouch vi Britannia from Code Geass. We’re currently 10 episodes in.

    • @katyl2334
      @katyl2334 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      lelouch is the incarnation of the Prince

    • @achintyanaithani889
      @achintyanaithani889 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A perfect example.

    • @IceQueen975
      @IceQueen975 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Y'all got good taste.

    • @thel0n3lytramp63
      @thel0n3lytramp63 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I Lelouch V Brittania, command you!

    • @GiftedContractor
      @GiftedContractor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You are in for a treat! Code Geass is one of the best anime's of all time

  • @caad5258
    @caad5258 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I thought "The Prince" was a written tutorial for Crusader Kings 2...

    • @artofthepossible7329
      @artofthepossible7329 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Last I checked incest was not a topic in the book.

  • @JackRackam
    @JackRackam 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Blue's enthusiasm for Machiavelli always makes me smile. I have to wonder if there was any cosplay involved in the writing of this video

  • @cardboardanalysis7283
    @cardboardanalysis7283 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    YES! Thank you for setting the record straight on Machiavell, reading him and then seeing how most people percieve him is maddening

  • @Eshanas
    @Eshanas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Politics is messy, bloody, and immoral. Not machs fault he pointed out the obvious.

  • @hyk3830
    @hyk3830 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stab first and shout slogan later is very underrated advice.

  • @themistoclesnelson2163
    @themistoclesnelson2163 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Blue. Thank you so much shedding positive light on him. I love the guys since college and even then I received a more negative reception for being a fan.

  • @Vinemaple
    @Vinemaple ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait, so _Discourses on Livy_ is basically just 400 more pages of historical analysis like the stuff in _The Prince_ ? Sign me up! I brought the old Bergin translation to a doctor's appointment once, and ended up not wanting to put it down... I'd just finished Finley's _Democracy: Ancient and Modern,_ and just happened to be totally ready for something like _The Prince._

  • @ellienixon3437
    @ellienixon3437 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Machiavelli: One day I'll write a book about you
    Ezio: Make it short

  • @althaearatliffthereligion
    @althaearatliffthereligion 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I just wrote a college paper about “The Prince”, it was pretty good.

  • @jeanetten.s.8557
    @jeanetten.s.8557 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    And after his "supposed" death, Niccolo Machiavelli became an immortal sorcerer with an eternal rivalry with fellow immortal sorceress Paranelle Flannel.

  • @biliminsrlar5752
    @biliminsrlar5752 5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    0:48 *N i c e*

  • @sophiemason8444
    @sophiemason8444 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The only stuff I know about Machiavelli was from Brotherhood, and the most 'manipulative' I got from him was that he was just very pragmatic and logic driven, and I know that a lot of the sub-plot stemmed from the rest of the Brotherhood misinterpreting his 'wrong stuff for the right reasons' as traitor due to his jerkish behaviour, and would quite willingly apologise when he was in the wrong.

  • @rebeccagoodman8251
    @rebeccagoodman8251 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For the 1st time I have witnessed someone else who actually read Machiavelli’s books- I have encountered so many who have said they know him as a villain, without reading his books. And, the ones that have, I know they didn’t finish it or comprehend it. There is so much more for me to tell about Machiavelli, but I have to say you did an EXCELLENT job! Well put and well said. You are the 1st I have ever encountered that actually read it and understood it. 👍 I applau you!!!

  • @Violetcas97
    @Violetcas97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    THANK YOU, dear GOD I’ve been defending Machiavelli and his work for years and it’s good to see it broken down concisely in an incredibly well made video.

  • @RedRattt
    @RedRattt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The description of "the prince" as a way to illustrate the tools of a tyrant reminds me of "yes minister" which sought to make the actions and behaviour of the UK government understandable to the public.

  • @MasterKeyblader25
    @MasterKeyblader25 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Petition for the modern perception of Machiavelli to be dubbed the shameful title of Neo Machiavellian

  • @magurocha
    @magurocha 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I dont have an "Early" joke but I can say, *finally* after my Mom berated me about playing Assassin's Creed, Machiavelli, Cezare, and everything else got features here!
    HA! Take that Mom.
    Yes I'll wash the dishes now.

  • @Nightfire613
    @Nightfire613 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Dude was writing under like 6 tiers of “f*** you”s and irony. A legend.
    Also did somebody say more POPE FIGHTS?

  • @ripwolfe
    @ripwolfe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I guess I read the Prince intelligently, b/c I was on board with "most criminally misunderstood" immediately -- that, and I had a decent history teacher or two who taught me how to not only read between the lines, but also to poke around at the wider context surrounding any and all things I read.

  • @thatoneperson2380
    @thatoneperson2380 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is LITERALLY perfect timing I’m doing a project on him in school. 🙏

    • @joemason6319
      @joemason6319 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then it's the perfect time to read this, too, which is almost the same as this video but goes into a lot more detail: www.exurbe.com/machiavelli-s-p-q-f/

  • @sarahgilliss3503
    @sarahgilliss3503 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Assassin's Creed, Machiavelli was part of the Italian faction of the Brotherhood of Assassins.

  • @klausoshaunacey8429
    @klausoshaunacey8429 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Tbh I’d listen to Blue discuss Machiavelli’s bowel movements because 1) Blue and 2) the man was fascinating in so many ways
    Edit: Blue, I really think you should do a video on Fredrick of Prussia and his badassness despite seeing his boyfriend get killed in front of him

  • @Mr.TofuDeliveryMan
    @Mr.TofuDeliveryMan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The united Italy’s first capital was Florence, then it was moved to Rome. Machiavelli would’ve liked that.

  • @kanalithviper4744
    @kanalithviper4744 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Normie: Why does Blue say nice at Machiavelli’s birth
    Arthur Fleck: You wouldn’t get it

    • @CommanderJaneShepard2154
      @CommanderJaneShepard2154 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So sad to see normalfags use the word normie like that

    • @RashidMBey
      @RashidMBey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@CommanderJaneShepard2154 fffffffuck off.

    • @IKnowThatFeelBr0
      @IKnowThatFeelBr0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CommanderJaneShepard2154 using a synonym won't save you.
      If you are in a hurry to clarify that you are not part of the majority like most, are you really not part of it?

    • @CommanderJaneShepard2154
      @CommanderJaneShepard2154 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@IKnowThatFeelBr0 Psuedointellectual bullshit wont save you
      I dab on thee good sir

    • @higueraft571
      @higueraft571 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CommanderJaneShepard2154 you're.... still using "dab", and thee like you're clever...
      You sure you arent a normie

  • @BlueViper8907
    @BlueViper8907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've literally been thinking about this video since it came out. I finally got myself a copy of The Prince and The Discourses on Livy. It's been 15 years since I was in school and getting together with my old history teacher and starting a book club, these are two books we're reading. Thank you Blue!

  • @julianleverton7045
    @julianleverton7045 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is spooky, I was just reading up on Machiavelli this morning. Shame he ended being so misunderstood by history. Great video as always Blue.

  • @kerentan9446
    @kerentan9446 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    blue has this excited and passionate voice that doesn't show up in a lot of history channels. one of many things i like about his videos.

  • @soic9690
    @soic9690 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Alright I'm sold, Machiavelli is officially one of my favorite historical figures. I'm definently gonna do some research on my own, he seems fascinating!

  • @hughfisher9820
    @hughfisher9820 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Red, you *have* to start drawing Blue in a toga. That charming extract from Nicoló's letter about appropriate dress for history is exactly how I imagine Blue

  • @Flopsos
    @Flopsos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i really wish history class focused as much on the renaissance as blue

    • @Flopsos
      @Flopsos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bongo Kongo im dutch and in our historybook stood renaissance, but i do agree that italy was the core of the rinascimento and that italians should get more credit for what’s basically europe’s golden age

  • @smergthedargon8974
    @smergthedargon8974 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    >when your burn is so hot the photons go beyond the visible spectrum and nobody realizes they've been utterly scorched for decades

  • @Ajaws
    @Ajaws 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Machiavelli: *eyes glow at the mere mention of the word “Republic”*

  • @xyAKMxy
    @xyAKMxy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whenever we studied Machiavelli at school (I live in Italy), textbooks *always* highlighted how his work was either or both a "rules for rulers" guidebook or/and a lowkey critique and denouncing of despotism. They even mentioned a short text which had Machiavelli being judged in the afterlife and before he was let into heaven somebody warned everyone that they "saw him put wolf fangs into sheep's mouths", as a metaphorical way to call him a dangerous rabble-rouser trying to diverfe the common people into anarchy.

  • @louisduarte8763
    @louisduarte8763 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    As a Cracked article once said, Machiavelli was the Stephen Colbert of Renaissance Italy.

  • @courtneysmith9807
    @courtneysmith9807 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Holy shit man. I'm a poli sci student, and I've had to read the Prince but with NO historical context given.
    This makes so much more sense

  • @uria3679
    @uria3679 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He was a good friend in Assassin’s Creed 2 and Brotherhood

  • @RedWizrobe
    @RedWizrobe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    *What Everyone Remembers From The Prince:* "And here comes in the question whether it is better to be loved rather than feared, or feared rather than loved. It might perhaps be answered that we should wish to be both; but since love and fear can hardly exist together, if we must choose between them, it is far safer to be feared than loved."
    *What He Says Immediately After, But Nobody Remembers:* "Nevertheless a prince ought to inspire fear in such a way that, if he does not win love, he avoids hatred; because he can endure very well being feared whilst he is not hated."
    TL;DR, make the citizens fear you without being overly cruel.

  • @DaveBath
    @DaveBath 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Exactly - Even if you read The Prince as a how-to, it boils down to "if you want power, use any means to get it, but if you want to KEEP power, you need the people on your side (or they'll just want someone else in to replace you), so you have to be a GOOD ruler so everyone wants to keep you". (Octavian and Augustus come to mind here!)

    • @danielhanson2417
      @danielhanson2417 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dave Bath also never go halfway

    • @John_Weiss
      @John_Weiss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Quick correction: Augustus was Octavian. Octavian was his real first name. Augustus is an honorific, basically meaning "The Great".

  • @Evergreen_Trees_are_cool
    @Evergreen_Trees_are_cool 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is one of my favorite of Blue's videos

  • @theaureliasys6362
    @theaureliasys6362 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    From the bottom of my heart:
    Thank you.

  • @OcarinaSapphr-
    @OcarinaSapphr- 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have an *exquisite* copy of ‘The Prince’- it was one of my bucket-list purchases; it’s a yellow satin hardcover, with metallic embossing- with period artwork & endnotes out the wazoo.
    It’s a very impressive read- I was trying to read a chapter a day; in this copy there are 26 chapters, plus the introduction & Lorenzo’s dedication, as well as 2 sets of appendices, & a quick chronology & brief run-down on the personalities of the time & a suggested reading list before the index.
    Weird or not, I actually wanted to read the chapters aloud (which limited where I was reading it, obvs), but life’s gotten in the way in the last couple of months - you’ve reminded me to get back to it.

  • @lumps17
    @lumps17 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Born in 1469, *Nice*, ..."
    Oh my god I died that was super unexpected 😂

  • @gwgh
    @gwgh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WHERE WAS THIS WHEN I NEEDED IT IN HIGH SCHOOL???
    Seriously. My AP Euro teacher did NOT cover the context behind The Prince. This video did clear up all of my misconceptions. Thank you Blue!

  • @bookworm3696
    @bookworm3696 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All I can think about is some of his advice mentioned in a manga called "how a realist hero rebuilt the kingdom." (Paraphrased) cruelty is a tool for a ruler to use. The sign of a great one is to only use it once.

  • @TheSineaterx
    @TheSineaterx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sooo One could say, Machiavelli was the original Overly Sarcastic Productions XD

  • @sethheppner7138
    @sethheppner7138 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Blue: *Uses Skyrim music while talking about 16th century Italy*
    Assassin’s Creed Brotherhood: Am I a joke to you?

    • @RJ_Productions316
      @RJ_Productions316 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought the background music was the Florence theme from AC2

  • @maizenn925
    @maizenn925 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Blue, I have been watching you and Reds channel for a little bit over two years now, when we watched one of your videos during history class I damn near had a heart attack.

  • @curestarlight3023
    @curestarlight3023 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Picturing the ghost of Machiavelli smiling & thinking, "This Blue is a smart one."

  • @samualwatkins
    @samualwatkins 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I mean, the first thing that comes to my mind when I hear this name is a handle bar mustache but go on.

  • @nothingunderthemask
    @nothingunderthemask 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did you know that in Assassin's Creed, the Prince is about the Assassins and templars

  • @pardonmyreach
    @pardonmyreach 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Aparently I listened halfway through this in some kind of daze for I remember none of this video, but I was reading a fanfic that quotes this fella and trying to understand his quotes is about as simple as guessing Albert Einsteins last words correctly, unless its as easy as sitting in a second grade spelling bee as a 32 year old. I had to know more. Thus I return.

  • @wl2454
    @wl2454 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    0:47 Okay is there an inside joke for the 1469 "Nice" ... or just the usual 69 joke.... -____-

  • @MrKsf1997
    @MrKsf1997 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Home in Florence from the Assassin’s Creed II soundtrack is a perfect choice for this video ❤️