Quite literally lost halls 1.0 design, Respawning enemies that take 10000 years to clear out, Flames you need to drag back to the boss room to activate, bosses that are extremely melee unfriendly and take 10 years to kill, and if you dont have dps you get overrun by minions Good job deca, Looking forward to shatters 3.0
Deca: "Let's make an o3-tier dungeon, players will sure love it" However they didn't think that instead of 30-50 dedicated players who have easily stomped wc, there's like 10 guys who start randomly wandering around and dying/nexusing to the first pack of mobs all the time. Well done, devs.
Sucks that I will likely never beat this, as I don’t have this sheer amount of time to drop on a dungeon, let alone practice for it. It also doesn’t help that I mainly play melees and this looks like hell for anything with a sword
I've been practicing new shatts on tops warriors, like 2 runs per day by myself or with whatever blue star wanders through the portal in realm. I've lost 2 8/8s so far, but I've learned how to deal with every enemy while clearing 1st and how to solo Sentinel and now Archmage. It's really not that bad if you're willing to sit down and learn it, but what other people have been saying about it being an endurance challenge is true. If you don't shoot the boss you can actually practice archmage phases indefinitely with a couple seconds inbetween each one to heal up. I haven't learned how to do the king yet but I've gotten past archmage one time in my 6 attempts. My melee tips are these: - lead shots from from front of sentinel in wallbounce phase, stay really close to boss in big swords phase and get used to the two colors, get used to the timing of the sword walls in spinny sword phase and run over boss right when they activate and you can continue damaging boss without interruption - Red phases and red bird are way easier for melees than blue, and Icenuke is straight up impossible for melees, so don't push archmage past 30% or 60% HP unless you are standing next to a red generator at the time (to lock it to that color in timer phase) There are more but I'll stick with this for now, good luck with your efforts and remember that the items you have are meant to be lost eventually. Using them to learn the hardest dungeon in the game is hardly throwing them away. (and if you aren't willing to lose items at all then you should play a different game)
The rework visually is amazing and the bosses are absolutely exciting. However the length of this dungeon versus the rewards you get doesnt seem particularly balanced. You should have a higher chance for actual loot in harder dungeons like shatters, at least with a smaller party or soloing, especially since they already do that with 03. Doing this would justify the length of the dungeon and make obtaining exaltations less frustrating. At least you get armor whites from enemies though
Everyone doesnt like this rework because its hard and long. I dont understand. Its the whole fucking point of an end game dungeon, its supposed to be hard, its supposed to feel unreasonable. But it IS possible. look back at o3, everyone was terrified of it, it took dozens of deaths to complete for the first time. Now it feels like nothing compared to shatters. and in 6 months shatters will feel reasonably hard and the gear will actually be a sight to see unlike o3 gear. no one is impressed to see o3 gear. people will be impressed to see king loot. if youre too shit or too mad to run the dungeon, then dont touch it. its for experienced players that know how to play, its not for most of you that play 80% of their time on a key server running in giant groups where you need a fraction of the skill to do the dungeon. learn to solo the other dungeons before you attempt a dungeon like the shatters where a large group makes it harder. 3-5 man runs with coordinated classes is the best way.
Its not the bosses people complain about, as that just memorizing shots and doing the classic "just dodge" The part people hate is how the loot per time ratio feels abysmal, it take around 40 minutes in a good run to kill king, and over half is spent clearing minions, don't even get me started on getting 2nd boss started. Hopefully with balance changes (mainly hp scaling) this will go from 40 mins long to about 30 or less, nobody wants to spend 40 mins only to get a g-def, g-wis, and a g-life+mark
@@DubauabudHow are you attempting your runs? Key server? Discord? Only small good discords are reliable. Like i said. This can be solved by running 2-5 man runs. If youre decent at the dungeon and actually know how to do it you should be fine on health most of the dungeon. minions will be scaled and much easier to kill. Not to mention you or someone can learn to rush switches. The point of the game is to grind rare loot. It is a bit frustrating getting pots but thats just the game. It would be stupid if all you had to do was run it 50 times and have all the UTs. O3 loot is pretty common. And i kinda wish it were a bit rarer bc you dont feel like a legendary player when every other person has the same loot. There needs to be exceedingly rare loot. If you cant handle it than dont bother with it. Makes it that much better for the people that do push through and complete and pull the whites.
@@carsonroyal7948 I'm an endgame player, I want to do new shatts, the problem is that its just as boring with all the clearing you have to do. I have no problem with loot being rare, its just that when that loot is rare because the dungeon takes forever to clear, its not fun. Hell I still get excited when I get a o3 or even an mbc white because I feel like for the time spent, a white/red is a nice reward. Even shitty Oscan runs that take 40 mins aren't so bad because half of it is in a realm, and the other half is in the boss fight getting loot. Not to mention, having to spend god knows how long to get a common exalt (attack) is rather annoying.
@@carsonroyal7948 this is literally the most boring dungeon to date. Candyland 2.0. clear tons of minions, get a few bosses, get a few pots, goodnight.
@@fnutek3720 The minion clearing is a little tedious ill agree, but anything beyond that, i think you are all just hyperactive kids that want op loot from a 5 minute dungeon you can group clear with 40 people. Not to mention i would assume most of you are doing this dungeon with wc tops...
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Quite literally lost halls 1.0 design, Respawning enemies that take 10000 years to clear out, Flames you need to drag back to the boss room to activate, bosses that are extremely melee unfriendly and take 10 years to kill, and if you dont have dps you get overrun by minions Good job deca, Looking forward to shatters 3.0
@@kooled4092 woosh
true, might aswell bring back the old shatts am I right? It was better anyways.
@@gangduck1923 lmao
XDD
Yes they runnined the game with lost halls doing discords is worse than kabam
One hour, yeah, exalting this must be so fun now.
seb: *drops to 18 hp*
also seb: "didn't use hp pots cause i didn't have to"
even tho i dont really share ur opinions on the game i can really respect the fact that ur extremely skilled
Deca: "Let's make an o3-tier dungeon, players will sure love it"
However they didn't think that instead of 30-50 dedicated players who have easily stomped wc, there's like 10 guys who start randomly wandering around and dying/nexusing to the first pack of mobs all the time. Well done, devs.
true true
Raw difficulty isnt the hardest but length of the difficulty makes it more difficult to complete then O3, mainly for experienced players
o3 way easier than king alone
Absolutely clutch Patience phase
Only having watched his HPE videos, this is first time I've ever seen seb nexus.
I think rotmg should increase white bag drop rates when you solo a dungeon
It should be increased depending on the amount of people and/or the damage you do
@@sebchoof tomb used to do that based on damage. DECA clearly doesn't want that to be the case
@@sebchoof i agree, but then it would make big groups unviable. is that good or bad?
that hard ass fuckin fight with the 2nd boss for two mana and two wisdom lol
honestly every single boss of the shatts would be able have their own dungeon
faxx
OMFG STOP THOSE GODDAMN POTBELLY PIG GRUNT EARRAPES HOLY SHIT. btw awesome run!
Sucks that I will likely never beat this, as I don’t have this sheer amount of time to drop on a dungeon, let alone practice for it. It also doesn’t help that I mainly play melees and this looks like hell for anything with a sword
u got this i believe in you
I've been practicing new shatts on tops warriors, like 2 runs per day by myself or with whatever blue star wanders through the portal in realm.
I've lost 2 8/8s so far, but I've learned how to deal with every enemy while clearing 1st and how to solo Sentinel and now Archmage. It's really not that bad if you're willing to sit down and learn it, but what other people have been saying about it being an endurance challenge is true.
If you don't shoot the boss you can actually practice archmage phases indefinitely with a couple seconds inbetween each one to heal up.
I haven't learned how to do the king yet but I've gotten past archmage one time in my 6 attempts.
My melee tips are these:
- lead shots from from front of sentinel in wallbounce phase, stay really close to boss in big swords phase and get used to the two colors, get used to the timing of the sword walls in spinny sword phase and run over boss right when they activate and you can continue damaging boss without interruption
- Red phases and red bird are way easier for melees than blue, and Icenuke is straight up impossible for melees, so don't push archmage past 30% or 60% HP unless you are standing next to a red generator at the time (to lock it to that color in timer phase)
There are more but I'll stick with this for now, good luck with your efforts and remember that the items you have are meant to be lost eventually. Using them to learn the hardest dungeon in the game is hardly throwing them away.
(and if you aren't willing to lose items at all then you should play a different game)
great video to help you fall asleep, really no joke. That low voice is like cream in my ears
The rework visually is amazing and the bosses are absolutely exciting. However the length of this dungeon versus the rewards you get doesnt seem particularly balanced.
You should have a higher chance for actual loot in harder dungeons like shatters, at least with a smaller party or soloing, especially since they already do that with 03. Doing this would justify the length of the dungeon and make obtaining exaltations less frustrating.
At least you get armor whites from enemies though
Sebchoof Asmr
A glife in only 80 minutes? Drops are way too good man /s
heck its a good thing cause last shatters rarest drop was a life pot
@@catci742 more like just do o3s cuz way more worth it
im glad you kept the pastas in
Assassin looks like a good choice
all that suffering for a blue bag
sebchode u are a god!! blue bag moment tho that was funny
Omg big fan iron
DUUUUUUUUUDe i felt the pain of the blue bag too XDDDDDDDDDDDDD
ASMR hour with sebchoof 😘
Yes please…
You can increase screen rotation speed??
Yeah in options :)
u r cracked
I love how you play hate how you swear.
Sorry D;
sebchonf
henlo!
@@sebchoof sebchonf
pain.
I WAS HERE
The best content would Have Been letting everyone in and then watch everyone die
Team: shattered
complaint stream pog
all that for mana and wis
asmr rotmg?
Everyone doesnt like this rework because its hard and long. I dont understand. Its the whole fucking point of an end game dungeon, its supposed to be hard, its supposed to feel unreasonable. But it IS possible. look back at o3, everyone was terrified of it, it took dozens of deaths to complete for the first time. Now it feels like nothing compared to shatters. and in 6 months shatters will feel reasonably hard and the gear will actually be a sight to see unlike o3 gear. no one is impressed to see o3 gear. people will be impressed to see king loot. if youre too shit or too mad to run the dungeon, then dont touch it. its for experienced players that know how to play, its not for most of you that play 80% of their time on a key server running in giant groups where you need a fraction of the skill to do the dungeon. learn to solo the other dungeons before you attempt a dungeon like the shatters where a large group makes it harder. 3-5 man runs with coordinated classes is the best way.
Its not the bosses people complain about, as that just memorizing shots and doing the classic "just dodge"
The part people hate is how the loot per time ratio feels abysmal, it take around 40 minutes in a good run to kill king, and over half is spent clearing minions, don't even get me started on getting 2nd boss started.
Hopefully with balance changes (mainly hp scaling) this will go from 40 mins long to about 30 or less, nobody wants to spend 40 mins only to get a g-def, g-wis, and a g-life+mark
@@DubauabudHow are you attempting your runs? Key server? Discord? Only small good discords are reliable. Like i said. This can be solved by running 2-5 man runs. If youre decent at the dungeon and actually know how to do it you should be fine on health most of the dungeon. minions will be scaled and much easier to kill. Not to mention you or someone can learn to rush switches. The point of the game is to grind rare loot. It is a bit frustrating getting pots but thats just the game. It would be stupid if all you had to do was run it 50 times and have all the UTs. O3 loot is pretty common. And i kinda wish it were a bit rarer bc you dont feel like a legendary player when every other person has the same loot. There needs to be exceedingly rare loot. If you cant handle it than dont bother with it. Makes it that much better for the people that do push through and complete and pull the whites.
@@carsonroyal7948 I'm an endgame player, I want to do new shatts, the problem is that its just as boring with all the clearing you have to do. I have no problem with loot being rare, its just that when that loot is rare because the dungeon takes forever to clear, its not fun. Hell I still get excited when I get a o3 or even an mbc white because I feel like for the time spent, a white/red is a nice reward.
Even shitty Oscan runs that take 40 mins aren't so bad because half of it is in a realm, and the other half is in the boss fight getting loot.
Not to mention, having to spend god knows how long to get a common exalt (attack) is rather annoying.
@@carsonroyal7948 this is literally the most boring dungeon to date. Candyland 2.0. clear tons of minions, get a few bosses, get a few pots, goodnight.
@@fnutek3720 The minion clearing is a little tedious ill agree, but anything beyond that, i think you are all just hyperactive kids that want op loot from a 5 minute dungeon you can group clear with 40 people. Not to mention i would assume most of you are doing this dungeon with wc tops...
Mom I'm famous
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Dungeons like these made me stop playing rotmg. An hour of work and for what?
All for a gatt and glife of course! Great game!
XD at least it’s satisfying to finish it for the first time
@@sebchoof keyword: first time 😂
Speedy when micrododging clearly doesn't work 12:40 so stop trying it
2nd
Shatters looks meh but cool. I will for ever miss tha amogus maze tho.
Un-nerf pets plox
the music is disappointing tbh, i expected more, deca moment
Am I actually the only one fine with the dungeon being long?
Yeah I like runs that require a lot of commitment but the second clear is crazy, if I kept the whole clear in it might be a 20 mins longer vid xD
Yes
i got tired just to watch him dodge all this bullshit the new shatters is just too much for me
they made it a lot easier since this video dw :D
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