Will It Leak? - Test Night - Zpacks Duplex - Wind and Rain
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Thank you all for the concern with the eye, the piece of metal came out shortly after filming this video.
You all rock!
Thursday and Friday, two no-talking versions of the latest overnight adventures.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
- Luke
TheOutdoorGearReview now go see a doctor for confirmation!
Was gonna ask.
Good ! If I could I would bawl you out about that eye. Now go see an Eye Doctor.
I do a lot of work in the garage with metal. There's nothing like the experience of using a mirror to try to pull a small metal chip out of your eyeball with tweezers!
Came to the comments to make sure someone told you to get your eye checked... well, you've got a lot of people looking out for you... glad it came out on its own...hope you feel better.
Me: wants to read comments about ZPacks tents
Commentators: medical advice
Great review Luke but please please please do everyone a favor: see an opthalmologist immediately! Your eyes are nothing to mess with.
Hope you and your family have a fantastic turkey day!
Luke, go get that eye looked at if you haven’t already.
As a nurse on a E.R. i second that!
Head to the optometrist for that metal in your eye - married to an eye doc and that can get infected or rust and cause some problems. You don’t want the golf club spud to come out!
Please get the eye looked at bud
Every time you say strength and honor at the end of your videos, the Orc in me goes, "Zug zug!"
I had a piece of rust in my eye from the lawnmower exhaust and couldn't take light so went to the eye doc. After a couple of days and he put some drops in to freeze it and take it out . It left a small scare but it never bothered my vision and after 35 yrs everything's fine . Once the drops take effect u don't feal anything ,, go see a doctor and get it checked out and and avoid infection .
The people giving thumbs downs are just envious of all of Luke's great gear.. Haters gonna hate.
Thank you for this review of the duplex! This is exactly what I’ve been looking for! Thank god someone finally reviewed this tent!
Andrew Eggleston - Maybe you were being sarcastic, but there are literally thousands of reviews of this tent online and hundreds on TH-cam.
If your wife is reading these comments please convince Luke to go to the eye physicians and get that checked out. As far as the tent is concerned...I'm not sure I like the design with the poles on the outside like they are. Seems like a decent setup though.
use the magnet base of your flashlight to remove or isolate the metal flake.
The sound of rain on Dyneema was the sole reason I bought this tent... it's my $600 outdoor Dream Scapes Sound Machine...🤣
You have to be careful with that metal in your eye.. i had a peace that started to rust and they well you dont want to know.. but i was b$%ching😄
I have exclusively used free standing tents due to the alpine areas I camp in. Msr, Eureka and Nemo account for the products I have camped with. The free standing option with the duplex looks like an after thought. Not knocking the tent as I would love to have one. But my free standing tents are much easier to set up. I will say where the zpacks shines is the waterproofness.
Luke:GET THAT EYE CHECKED AND TREATED! Don't screw around with your eyes or vision!!!!!
Now, the tent. A little expensive for me. Seems thin. How durable is it? Looks light, weight wise and simple set up. I take it is only for warm or hot weather, correct? Would be nice if it was a 4 season. Speaking of cold weather, any reviews coming up or suggestions for a moderately priced decent cold weather tent? I think it's time to retire my current one (an older Ozark, from back when they made a good product). It's been used and abused alot and well, like I said....time to get a new one. Thanks again 4 an honest review. See ya in the next one.
I've seen a video of a thru-hiker on the PCT where he gets hit by a flash storm where it gets pummeled by hail in the desert, a couple of holes but nowhere near what a silpoly/silnylon tent would of had. Its a tough little tent.
Nice test job Luke. Glad your eye is okay.
I have this tent (camo version), and I'm amazed at how good it is. Buy once, cry once.
You can’t leave that piece of metal in your eye. Hopefully it wasn’t old or rusted.
Oh gawd Luke....go to the eye doc and get that looked at...
Great review, thanks! But...uhhh...there are these new things called ‘doctors’. You see them as needed, like when Life, Limb or EYESIGHT are involved. C’mon man, you know better!
See an eye doctor, i had a metal filling in my eye years ago, the pain just got worst, doctor took it out of eye...had a small scar for years
You guys do realize that this video was made some time ago, green leaves etc. I'm sure Luke has taken care of his eye problem by now.
Bill Yellowdog Welding then he should have said so.
Go to the eye doctor, the metal can rust and cause major issues including blindness
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Go to the eye doc for that! My dad is an auto mechanic and they all take that kind of thing very seriously. Guys have lost their eye before over just a small chunk of metal like that. It's nothing to mess around with.
One angry thruhiker has disliked this video already. I'm going to enjoy this. Get the kettle on kids its tea time 🏴
I'm am emt and say you need your eye checked. Not worth losing your vision for.
7:36 So I can avoid spending money on or packing a tent for a multi day trip that will ultimately leak and not keep me or my gear dry, what specific tents are you referring to that will leak or build excessive condensation to the point that I will end up wet?
That list has hundreds of tents.
A nice look at the sturdiness and capabilities. But I have to ask because it drives me a bit nutz every time I watch you set up a tent...why do you ALWAYS have the groundsheet extending outside the borders of the tent floor?
I can't justify spending that type of money for a "Great Lightweight Tent", I'm not a thru hiker! If I was that tent be on top of the list I would buy first! Got to use one a few times an yes it is a great tent! Now the material is 30 dollars a yard so not sure what that means but these cottage industry people putting out great products, they deserve the price if not more. Just wish we had a lot more of these type of companies, maybe a few auto cottage companies??? LOL
Has anyone told you to go to the eye doctor yet??
After carefully scrolling the comments section i can confirm nobody has suggested he should seek medical advice regarding foreign metal object in the eye
Dude, I'm one of those people that would avoid the doctor at all cost, but you should go to the doctor to get that issue with your eye sorted out, that can be very dangerous.
that spec will work its way into your eye,
and you`ll have a floaty in your eye.
I got a couple of them in my eyes, eye doc pointed them out to me.
Ive had a zpacks triplex since 2017 back then it was still called cuben fiber, I've used it in the snow and very wet conditions like storms at lakes and other than a bit of condensation, I've never once gotten wet or had a leak.. ventilation is fantastic and the thing weighs about a pound. I take it backpacking and love the space of a "3" person tent for myself, but two adult humans can be comfortable in it.
Also it doesn't absorb water like nylon so even after rain it will weight the same, it also doesn't stretch or sag, fantastic material.
just got the xl 2p version! so excited.
Awesome video Luke... would be great to see a comparison of the tent setup with trekking poles vs the setup with tent poles and your thoughts on each... thanks! 🙏🏻
little confused...already spent an evening in the mountains with wind and rain and it performed perfectly, yet here we are with another review. got metal in your eye...go see an ophthalmologist...and finally, the zee pack duplex review coming up shortly...what did we just watch? dazed and confused.
With no tub ya. The air flow is going to be great. LOL... It's a tarp. It's not worth anywhere near what they are asking. For that price it should include the set up poles AND a set of treking poles to boot. Matter of fact they should come out and set it up for you too. $199 is the most I would pay for this tarp.
DCF was originally developed as sail material for competitive yacht racing. Imagine that many square feet of sail taking the force of strong winds on the open ocean. Dyneema cordage has been around for a long time and gram for gram is stronger than steel, so when some clever folks figured out how to make it into sheets for sails, nobody should be surprised at its performance in outdoor gear. Sure, it has properties that one should understand to get the most out of it, but that’s true of most outdoor gear. It shines in tensile strength-that’s what it was designed for-but abrasion is something to be mindful of. This is why DCF shelters often last longer than packs. And fold and roll shelters or tarps-crumpling and stuffing can break down the fibers over time. Personally, I may never be in the market DCF gear, but it’s a fun time to see the development.
Always liked the tent, but the price is way too much for my budget. But all and all it is a great product. Have seen people use this tent for thousands of miles on thru hikes.
I forgot is watching you I forgot hey I just last night I was looking at this in my working real thing I was busy trying to find my friend named been in the hospital everything everything fine and never got to watch and lube camping thank you all right Google 😊👍
Bought this last month. Taking it out on the PCT this coming weekend (after thanksgiving) to try it out. Can't wait!
Go to urgent care at least and have the doctor get it out of your eye. Seems like a good tent but i have no need for something that light. A more substantial military tent is more what I prefer.
Is it any good for winter trips? I doubt it.
Should've flushed and tried to remove the metal with a strong magnet ASAP. This late though you better get to a doctor ASAP. Least case easy infection. Worst case, scratch your lens or even rust ring, both can cause serious and permanent damage to your vision if not blindness. Gonna be a lot harder to put tents up with one eye and no depth perception.
Great tent set up..I would get that metal out of your eye..hope it gets better..happy thanksgiving.
GLAD THE PEICE OF METAL CAME OUT BUT I'D STILL CALL YOUR EYE DOCTOR TO MAKE SURE IT DIDN'T DAMAGE SOMETHING ! ENJOYED BE SAFE ! HAVE FUN ! GOD BLESS YOU ALL ALWAYS ! HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO EVERYONE !
Beautiful tent. Looks like it has lots of room. And I would love to purchase it, but that $600 price tag puts me off.
I just posted a video on my mountain bike ride to work and ride home and the first snow of the year here and Utah
Love the sound of rain on a tent...Take care of that eye brother! Have a great Thanksgiving!
Which colour was this Duplex?
I'd probably have this tent if not for the price. Therefore I went with the LanShan2P
sheldon girvan me too, you can get double hooks from zpacks that fit right on our tents and you can operate the doors one handed.
@@mikeboard1 my Lanshan actually came with the double hook :)
I've got to say, your yawn didn't get me because I was too busy feeling the piece of metal you said was in your eye, in my eye. My eyes are very sensitive and the tiniest bit of dust or eyelash drives me bonkers. I couldn't go as long as you have with something like that in my eye. 😨
Luke go to eye doctor and get that metal out. I am a machinist and I had a piece of metal in my eye and it scratched my retina and also being stubborn I didn't go to eye doctor for over a week luckily I did go it was starting to get infected. Nothing to mess with please go.great video great review
ive used my duplex in foul weather on 2 thru hikes and never a drip
Hi Luke. The Zpack tent held up just fine in the rain. I like the transparency of it too..very well lit in the daytime. Overall I liked the review. Pretty expensive though I must say. The condensation was slight in comparison to some. Taking all things into consideration I would give it a thumbs up. Until next time Luke, strength and honor. 👍👍👍
If weight didn't matter what wud u suggest.? Hilleberg or Zpacks? I own hilleberg and thought about getting a zpacks but I hated how uninviting the zpacks is the hilleberg makes a nice home to go into. Etc.
Just bought a Hilleberg Anaris. I just don't feel comfortable with Dyneema and high velocity hail, we certainly get plenty of that here in Colorado. I also used to own that Thermarest Parsec, found it a bit narrow, sold it and got the Patagonia 20 degree down bag, you'd love that bag.
Great review and thanks for making it I can tick the 'confirmed leekproof' thing cause it wakes me up when vegetables fall out the sky :.)
Hope the eye recovered these past two years. It is a constant source of bemusement that tent manufacturers don't mark them to show prefered wind direction - the tyres on my bicycle have arrows showing which way around they should rotate, so that they perform correctly - a simple arrow would suffice on a tent and yet nobody marks any tent so far as I know and its all left to rumour and experience.
It's not set up very tight. With trekking pole you can get it quit a but tighter. It does as good as almost any tent at half the weight. I have 1200 miles on mine with is about 65 - 70 nights on the PCT. One night was too windy to set it up but that 60 miles an hour with at lest two gust of who knows how high.
Thanks Luke for another informative upload., been following you for about 18 months and have found your walks, overnight camps in all weathers fascinating. Your fair constructive observations on products are interesting and unbiased. No doubt with Winter upon us you will be doing more 'bad weather' camps/walks. Enjoyed your cowboy camp a few weeks ago. Any chance of filming a wool blanket sleep over in poor weather like our fore fathers endured many many moons ago! Regards from England😊 sincerely hope your eye has been treated by now.
For a good look at this tent, john (Hounds of Howgate) used it extensively on his long distance trails. th-cam.com/play/PLTqMObKVS3bFearT4x8Vvk7lTu42TvUo3.html
Hey copper head, water moccasin, rattle snake...come right on in! NO THANK YOU!
There is a 6 to 8 inch tub floor and netting between floor and walls plus two full doors so the tent is completely enclosed for bugs and SNAKES. I don’t like them either. I did think the same thing as you the first reviews I saw when they weren’t clear about a single wall tent.
@@bernadette3241 from the footage he showed...it's not fully enclosed unless what you're referring to is optional?
Why the hell wouldn't you go to the ER... That piece of metal could still be damaging your eye further.
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Go to the doctor! Metal fragments are notorious for not coming out and you need to have it removed before permanent damage is done!
Id really love it if you reviewed the naturehike p-series
I really like the overlapping door panels. Makes more sense than zippers. I hate zippers.
Pull your top eye lid over your bottom eye lid and do a sneeze, this usually elects most debris from the eye.
It really looks like tinfoil???? 🤷♀️🇬🇧🙏💕💖
Great review Luke, I did have my doubts about this tent but overall it held up really well. I would be very curious about long term use and fabric durability. With a hefty $600 price tag for the tent and an additional $125 for the flex kit you really need to be a gram counter and a individual who can really utilize all the benefits this tent has to offer.
Hi Prim, I own this tent in camo, it is a very good tent and i have this exact configuration with the poles; it all weights right under 2 pounds. The durability is compromised if you do not take care of it and baby it. In my last camping trip mine few off in a gust of wind landing on top of a brush where a brach poked a small hole and abrasion right by the center where the poles meet; I have repair tape from Zpacks as well and patched it with a small oval patch that is easy to cut with small first aid shears I carry and it is good as new almost unnoticeable but it took me a while to get over the fact I let it fly in the wind and the hole because of me; if it is windy you want to make sure it does not fly out other than that this tent has it all; space, light weight, head room, easy of use and good in the weather; for a three seasons tent the price is worth it every penny. Hope this helps.
I love the sound of the rain. Please get your eye checked. It does not come out on its own.
Looks like a Home Depot tarp. No way for that $$$
I know that tent is super light but $600+ with poles. I think I'll stick with my Nemo Hornet 2P that cost me $295 it does weigh more coming in at 2lbs 6 oz. With minimum trail weight at 1lb 15oz.
Kamprite I still will agrue is the best on the market and ur off the GROUND easy set and who will pay 600 to sleep on the GROUND lol kamprite sold me
@@domoowens7530 I looked up Kamprite and I think I looked at the right thing. Is it the cot with a tent on top? If it is how camp you lug that through the woods? It looks heavy.
It folds up in a carrying case not dat heavy just 25 pounds
And its soo simple to put together 2 minutes are less watch utube videos on it( it's the best) tent money can buy in my opinion I've used all kinds of tents in my life this is the best good luck
And the funny dang is on the video the guy said the poles doesn't even comes with the $600 tent) he shud be ashamed of himself to endorse that tent
Glad to hear that the metal in the eye dislodged. I have never been in the market for a more expensive tent...but one question I would have were I to consider purchasing a tent such as this: What is the expected service life of this tent? A very Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family, Luke!
How does one keep the inside dry if you have to pack it wet and set ut up again?
Great vid as usual. Looking forward to the full review.
A piece of hard plastic went in my eye back in 2013. Good thing the opthamologist removed it. It was really gritty and painful and I have to wait 2 days because the doc is not available. Better have the metal fragment in your eye remove asap before it cause any damage.
Eye injuries are the worst. I took a sword to the eye once lol.
Will yo be doing a review of the Sierra Design Meteor 2 or Meteor 3 tent any time in the future? Just wondering as I'm interested in that tent, and will need to get one by summer of 2020. Thanks for the great reviews, and Cheers from Winnipeg.
I would find it hard to trust it in heavy wind? Looks like as soon as it got any tear at all it would tear apart like a plastic bag? but then it’s not a 4 season mountaineering tent, probably more for the most shelters spots you can find
The material was literally designed to be used in racing sailboats before it started creeping into camping gear. The material itself is stronger in tension and wind than that of any mountaineering or expedition tent. But ain't nobody taking this to everest, the test of the tent is not designed that... for sudden storms and heavy winds is absolutely fine, I've used mine through some bad storms and even the tarp made out of the same material was perfectly fine
Can you do the Dan Durston X-Mid 2 person tent?
Go to the eye doctor. I worked in automotive repair for 27 years and got a piece of metal in my eye, I did not get it taken care of and now I see a black dot where my cornea was damaged.
Pull your lower eyelid and use a small magnet to try and get the piece out. A friend tried this and it worked for him. Who knows?
Cheers
better get that eye looked at sir
Did Luke ever do his final review on the tent?
Yes.. you got me with the yawn.. lol .. great review as always.. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours
Don't like the tent generally. Difficult to set up. Not self supported. Looks like it takes time to set up that sometimes I don't have. Way too pricey. It's gonna get really light in there in the early morning. Greenhouse effect, sometimes I have to set up in the sun? Mehh-
Use a rare earth magnet and get that out of your eye...
Get your eye checked, brother.
I like the sound of the rain. You probably should go to an eye doctor to make sure it won’t be a problem, please. I’m sure you’ll be OK Luke. Thanks for your video. Have a nice Thanksgiving.
It would be interesting to see how well it handles sustained wind gusts up to 45-50 mph. I use a Berghaus Cairngorm 2 and that comfortably handles that level of wind. Although trying to pitch it (and I think any tent would be the same), is a pain in the neck.
Luke, your work ethic is an example for all of us. Really, see a doc about getting that chip out of your eye. It’s not good to leave it. I’ve owned the Camo Duplex for more than a year now, with no issues. I use trekking poles. I also use a small dynema tarp when it rains. They are so light that I couldn’t resist. I shake off the water, role it up and stuff it away. It’s so easy and light. It doesn’t soak up water and therefore drys super quickly. Thanks for the demo and your hard work. Go see a doc about your eye. Texas
Plz see a doctor 'bout that eye, good Sir!
Love this tent and flex poles work very well
I pay Canadian for this tent so it’s super super expensive. Canadian dollar rate sucks in comparison to the the USA
This tent has preformed unbelievably well and is worth every penny as it holds up to every element. I have put mine through high elevations and big big storms up near Whistler BC and it was the one my friend crawled into through a huge crazy storm. His tent was falling apart and Zpacks was holding up through everything.
Thanks for the review because yes it is the tent to own
Sheila Vancouver BC🇨🇦
Did you put any equipment (shoes etc) outside in the vestibule? It looks like it's a bit high to keep a lot of water off the vestibule area if the storm is really involved. Otherwise, good video. While the product looks great, the price will keep me from purchasing it just yet...maybe some point in the future. Thanks for sharing! Aloha.
Great review on the duplex, Luke! It's too pricey for my wallet. I love the sound of the rain on the tent, one of my favorite sounds ever. Hey brother, see an ophthalmologist ASAP, please. Having worked in the ER for many years I assisted with numerous eye injuries involving FOB's and until it's removed please do not rub the affected eye. I wish you well and I hope you and your family have a wonderful Thanksgiving.
Did he ever publish a review on this tent?
Magnets work wonders for metal in the eye. I can't count the many times I used one to remove tiny metal frags.
I feel your frustration with the eye...I am a custom knife maker and every time I get the littlest piece of burned iron under my lenses, mine puff up (both) like I've been in a fight with Mike Tyson.