I naturally assumed it was Jehovahs Witness... if it is *not* then the folks who chose it are oblivious to reality and it gives a bad first impression. Yes I am quite aware that while not pacifists the Jehovahs Witness do advocate for non-violence. It is frankly a stupid choice for the name of a gun manufacturer. Peaceful Skies
@@Life_Is_Torture0000 They don't believe in self defense to the point that you can be excommunicated for owning a firearm, being/becoming a law enforcement officer, or serving in the military
At this point the g19 is basically the pistol version of the ar15. Saying no one other than Glock should make them is like saying no one other than aramalight should make ar15s.
I think the point is that people are tired of seeing Glock Gen 3 clones. We all understand that Gen 3 patent has expired so it's up for anybody to grab and copy or clone. People want something different instead of clone here, clone that, clone this and it will be the "next glock killer" gun. "Glock lack innovation". That term is being toss around these days. Now if we were to "point things out" or something wouldn't it mean.."other companies" are also lacking innovation too?
@@SCH292the crap Glock has been getting for the so-called lack of innovation is moronic. Besides Allen pistols, there hasn't been any innovations for decades.
Jon I don't think your an idiot. Starting in 2025 all guns should ship with two mags minimum. If your over $579.00 you get 100 rounds plus three(3!) Mags with purchase. Whose on board with that?
And all the slides should be optics cut standard... the only guns I've bought that didn't come with two mags were rifles... and a revolver😅. My newest gun (Hellcat Pro) came with 5 mags
2149 for the Ruger precision is ridiculous. It was known for being a budget friendly way to get into precision shooting. Now it’s in the same price range as far superior rifles.
Those Ruger Precision Rifle pruces are ridiculous. You can nearly get a true custom build for that price. My prediction is a steep price drop a few months after release.
The Pewview Apache that I bought for my girlfriend as a Christmas gift last year is a $4k paperweight… even after going back to Watchtower for 6-7 weeks! Customer Service is a joke, and I want to create a class action lawsuit with other owners who haven’t received what they paid for! I would highly recommend heeding the advice of John and staying away from anything Watchtower…
@@TheGunCollective I appreciate it my friend, sadly I am just one of many with the same issue’s or worse. I would happily send it your way for a proper review… I would love for the reality of what is going on to be seen by the 2A community and prevent others from spending their hard earned money on a products that fail to deliver on what is promised. Looking forward to GunCon this year, and appreciate what you do for the 2A Community!
There is no doubt they should issue a mass recall and safety bulletin. Otherwise they risk a company ending situation if a known mass failure causes an injury.
Derya arms makes the Rock Island imported shotguns... the VR60, VR70, VR80, VRPA40... and the DY9 is sold through Rock Island as well... Their shotguns go from 499-799, and the DY9 sells for 324.99.
I was one of the initial haters of the RXM not the biggest Glock fan but Had a G19 i loved for years. I decided to try the Ruger , im shocked how much i like it. Very solid , runs great , feels great , only 800rds on it so far but very happy with it. I will be running it in a Concealed Carry competition this weekend for fun.
The RMS and RMSc are the same mount. All RMS optics ( RMS, RMS 2, RMSc, RMSx, RMSw ) use the same mounting pattern. The spacing between the mounting screws and recoil pins are all identical. The difference is in the external housing dimensions, but this doesn't affect the mount. The RMSc is only 23 mm wide while the others are 25.4 mm wide, but that doesn't matter since the slides are cut their full width. Some models are 40.8 mm long while others are 40.7 mm long, but I don't know any company that cuts the slide notch specifically for the shorter sight.
My biggest issue with all of these different types of optics is that they all use different patterns and footprints. They need to all agree on one universal footprint. That, or They need to make dots with dovetails on the back to fit on older guns that also have some other way to secure them, like also using the back plate, or having lips that reach over either side of the slide for extra security. There are a lot of people with older guns that don't want to have to shell out $100 or more extra for a dove dot system that they don't necessarily trust but don't want to spend $100 to $300 getting a slide melt just so that they can add suppressor height sites before they even buy the dot they want. What all is said and done, you end up doubling the price of the pistol.
purchased both berya glock an beretta clone at the same time as a buy 1 get 1. $400 total. 300 rounds through each so far no hiccups! real value for the price i got them
I think you got a deal. As 6.5 creedmoor gets closer to the army and reputation, newer shooters may need to pay 2k so the sticker shock of creedmoor rounds doesn't make them give up, faint and put the thing back on sale. Guns are for keeping.
@greysondevries4251 I swap eye dominance all the time whenever I notice it's in my left eye. Your disagreement means nothing whatsoever, just shows that you're ignorant
After the 2016 Joint Agency report, if you're carrying anything supersonic that is *not* Underwood/Lehigh ED load, you've fallen asleep at the wheel. That bullet > any HP no the market.
Watchtower Firearms sounds like a name that Jehovah Witnesses would come up with.
Do they even believe in self defense? I'm given to understand they don't vote, but I don't pretend to know a lot about them.
I naturally assumed it was Jehovahs Witness... if it is *not* then the folks who chose it are oblivious to reality and it gives a bad first impression.
Yes I am quite aware that while not pacifists the Jehovahs Witness do advocate for non-violence. It is frankly a stupid choice for the name of a gun manufacturer.
Peaceful Skies
It is named after the Hamburger hill operation Watchtower
@@Life_Is_Torture0000 They don't believe in self defense to the point that you can be excommunicated for owning a firearm, being/becoming a law enforcement officer, or serving in the military
Definitely gives Mormon vibes to me.
For $4000 a handgun better do more than just shoot well. It should cook me dinner, vacuum the floors, and make coffee in the morning.
Some suckki suckki lmfao
That sounds like a wife. And they are WAY more expensive than 4k
It should felate me thrice daily
For real… I’m not gonna say that my $400 Glock is “just as good”, but I really doubt that anything is $3600 better
Don't let bro find out about cabot
"get accustomed to the way things go around here" he wasn't lying 🤣🤣
Merry Christmas Everyone
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Merry Christmas. May God bless you and your family
At this point the g19 is basically the pistol version of the ar15.
Saying no one other than Glock should make them is like saying no one other than aramalight should make ar15s.
I think the point is that people are tired of seeing Glock Gen 3 clones. We all understand that Gen 3 patent has expired so it's up for anybody to grab and copy or clone. People want something different instead of clone here, clone that, clone this and it will be the "next glock killer" gun.
"Glock lack innovation". That term is being toss around these days. Now if we were to "point things out" or something wouldn't it mean.."other companies" are also lacking innovation too?
I agree. My first was a Glock 34, but I bought a 19 after the first was stolen. I am so tired of the Glock cloning, I got an FN 502.
Yeah. 😂
Well if the original armalight was still around and never sold off...
I got all kinds of glocks and will always love them but next pistol i get will probably be a hk vp9
@@SCH292the crap Glock has been getting for the so-called lack of innovation is moronic. Besides Allen pistols, there hasn't been any innovations for decades.
That pistol going off without the safety being depressed actually made my jaw drop.
For $4000 it's probably a "feature," not a mistake.
What do you call a Christmas tree that knows Kung Fu? Answer: Spruce Lee. Get it?
Thank you for that. Haha
The gun law I'd support would make it mandatory that all mag fed guns come with a minimum of 3 standard capacity magazines.
Merry Christmas and thank you Jon for all you do
If the first Merry Christmas could get to the top that would be great
If the first Merry Christmas could get to the top that would be great. rooting for ya
“White snot explosion finish” 🤣😂
Jon I don't think your an idiot. Starting in 2025 all guns should ship with two mags minimum. If your over $579.00 you get 100 rounds plus three(3!) Mags with purchase. Whose on board with that?
I am
And all the slides should be optics cut standard... the only guns I've bought that didn't come with two mags were rifles... and a revolver😅. My newest gun (Hellcat Pro) came with 5 mags
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But yes I agree!
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Have been watching this channel for years. You do a good job, thank you
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By the time I spend $4,000 on a pistol we'll all be flying in hovercars
Or when I spend 70g for a pickup truck!
I wonder who really buys these
I'd rather have a hoverboard.
2 bucks a bullet for 9mm is criminal
So there’s this thing called the Free Market. You should look it up.
2149 for the Ruger precision is ridiculous. It was known for being a budget friendly way to get into precision shooting. Now it’s in the same price range as far superior rifles.
This channel is one of the few that I watch regularly. Keep it up.
Thank you!
I'll have my 10/22 in "White Snot Explosion" please.
Haha, you're awesome TGC
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Medical Outfitters needs to offer a multi tourniquet medical kit. I appreciate the shears and gloves, but multi limb bleeding is a real thing.
Send them a message. I’m sure they’ve considered it
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You're not an Idiot John...maybe an A-hole sometimes....but definitely not an idiot..
Merry Christmas John and Gen...
Those Ruger Precision Rifle pruces are ridiculous. You can nearly get a true custom build for that price. My prediction is a steep price drop a few months after release.
your awesome happy Christmas happy new year !
Thanks! You too!
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I love idiots! That's why I keep coming back, John!
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John awesome content. Thank you. Merry Christmas and a happy and healthy New Year.
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You are welcome, Hunny Bear.
see you next week
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This will be the last time I will ever comment on a TGC video for 2024.
Merry Christmas Ya Filthy Animals.
See you next year amigo!
Classic ending to the vid bro. Lmao lmao😅. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you sir.
I love the show, and have looked forward to it every week for years!
Now that's how a video is supposed to end 🤣
The Pewview Apache that I bought for my girlfriend as a Christmas gift last year is a $4k paperweight… even after going back to Watchtower for 6-7 weeks! Customer Service is a joke, and I want to create a class action lawsuit with other owners who haven’t received what they paid for! I would highly recommend heeding the advice of John and staying away from anything Watchtower…
Ouch. Sorry man!
I blame Pewview and Demo Ranch for shilling complete shit.
@@TheGunCollective I appreciate it my friend, sadly I am just one of many with the same issue’s or worse. I would happily send it your way for a proper review… I would love for the reality of what is going on to be seen by the 2A community and prevent others from spending their hard earned money on a products that fail to deliver on what is promised.
Looking forward to GunCon this year, and appreciate what you do for the 2A Community!
Sorry 😢 that should not be tolerated
There is no doubt they should issue a mass recall and safety bulletin. Otherwise they risk a company ending situation if a known mass failure causes an injury.
Derya arms makes the Rock Island imported shotguns... the VR60, VR70, VR80, VRPA40... and the DY9 is sold through Rock Island as well... Their shotguns go from 499-799, and the DY9 sells for 324.99.
LOL LOVE IT!
Good review
Great info, entertaining, best 2A and industry news on the internet.
John, I subbed all my YT accounts, was trying to help you get over the hump. Have a good holiday!
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Fine 2A content 👍
Derya has been popular in the 3 gun world for years. Their Shotguns are highly customizable and are essentially the same as the RockIsland VR80.
Thank You John who is somewhat brighter than an idiot!
Phew I was so worried when I heard those first words
Keep the content coming. Merry Christmas!
You're welcome
I was one of the initial haters of the RXM not the biggest Glock fan but Had a G19 i loved for years. I decided to try the Ruger , im shocked how much i like it. Very solid , runs great , feels great , only 800rds on it so far but very happy with it. I will be running it in a Concealed Carry competition this weekend for fun.
The RMS and RMSc are the same mount. All RMS optics ( RMS, RMS 2, RMSc, RMSx, RMSw ) use the same mounting pattern. The spacing between the mounting screws and recoil pins are all identical. The difference is in the external housing dimensions, but this doesn't affect the mount. The RMSc is only 23 mm wide while the others are 25.4 mm wide, but that doesn't matter since the slides are cut their full width. Some models are 40.8 mm long while others are 40.7 mm long, but I don't know any company that cuts the slide notch specifically for the shorter sight.
Well I guess I was wrong. I thought the RMSC was smaller.
Merry Christmas Jon!
Brands you trust and KelTec should never be used in the same sentence. "White snot explosion" lost it on that one.🤣
My biggest issue with all of these different types of optics is that they all use different patterns and footprints. They need to all agree on one universal footprint. That, or They need to make dots with dovetails on the back to fit on older guns that also have some other way to secure them, like also using the back plate, or having lips that reach over either side of the slide for extra security. There are a lot of people with older guns that don't want to have to shell out $100 or more extra for a dove dot system that they don't necessarily trust but don't want to spend $100 to $300 getting a slide melt just so that they can add suppressor height sites before they even buy the dot they want. What all is said and done, you end up doubling the price of the pistol.
Ruger is making some rocking guns!
purchased both berya glock an beretta clone at the same time as a buy 1 get 1. $400 total. 300 rounds through each so far no hiccups! real value for the price i got them
That RPR pricing is hard to wrap my head around... I payed $1499 for mine in 6.5CM...
I think you got a deal. As 6.5 creedmoor gets closer to the army and reputation, newer shooters may need to pay 2k so the sticker shock of creedmoor rounds doesn't make them give up, faint and put the thing back on sale.
Guns are for keeping.
Very impressed with my Derya DY9 so far, especially in light of the sub-$250 price.
Congrats, Jon, now THAT'S how you end a
Watchtower charges way too friggin much
The rent is too damn high!
The Derya Melik is an awesome gun. I love mine!
"White snot explosion"?!
This needs to be an official industry term.
Lefty 10/22 is actually pretty cool. A full third of the population is left eye dominant, so this just makes sense.
Its only practical for left handed shooters, you can train yourself to swap eye dominance pretty easily
@@Pseudo_Sage I actually completely disagree. You can train to shoot left handed, you can’t train the dominance out of your eye.
@greysondevries4251 I swap eye dominance all the time whenever I notice it's in my left eye. Your disagreement means nothing whatsoever, just shows that you're ignorant
@@Pseudo_Sage Name checks out .....
@@Pseudo_Sage you can train hand or eye, but training your weak hand is usually easier.
After the 2016 Joint Agency report, if you're carrying anything supersonic that is *not* Underwood/Lehigh ED load, you've fallen asleep at the wheel. That bullet > any HP no the market.
I smile every time the video cuts out 😅 doin the lords work 🙏
Perfect ending. Mozeltov
White snot explosion finish 🤣🤣
I thought the tube controllers got cha for a second.😢
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