jokic finished last season with the highest PER in NBA history, even better than when wilt averaged 50 PPG. jokic is technically more efficient than steph but steph is efficient from beyond the arc which is a whole different shot and makes it impressive in its own right
I mean, to be fair, Curry ACTUALLY WAS in a “down 2-1” situation in the Finals, and did go absolutely nuclear for that one crucial game where it mattered the most. The man’s will was something else in that game, it was just stunning. But yeah, Jokic shouldn’t be counted out ever, he has everything going for him to be a future top 10 OAT player.
@@michaeldick5388 just by your name I knew the was a L take jokic is not top 10 oat he’s more like top 25 oat which is still very good and he is better than curry
@@Alan-q6o That’s true actually, I realised pretty recently that Jokic has about a 95% chance of being one of the best to never win a championship, which isn’t really material for a top 10 of all time player. Still, the back to back MVPs do help his case as a great
Jokic and Steph are both one-man offenses and I know that the Steph d riders are gonna hate this but truly i’d rather have Jokic defending on my team than Steph, great vid tho
I’d rather have steph for the simple reason that him exploiting jokic on defense was one of the key factors (besides injury obviously) that the warriors beat the nuggets the way they did.
@@nickvalentin9909 so you expect a 6 11 center to gaurd one of the best offensive players of all time but what about when curry was getting attacked by marcus smart in the post in game 3 of the finals? what about the fact the whole point of warriors defense is hide curry? i still think currys better but this is bad reasoning
@@justinholland6132 bruh marcus smart was not getting anything on Steph that series. The warriors don’t have to hide Steph on defense - it’s a strategic decision because Steph is a slightly above average defender now (people keep thinking of Steph from a couple years back but now he has become a decent defender) and everyone one else on his team are sub all defense worthy to all defense worthy defenders - Looney, Wiggins, Klay, Draymond. So of course, when the warriors want to keep Steph healthy and get the best defense, they try to stick with the better defenders, which does not mean Steph is a bad defender. On the other hand, the nuggets team was poor defensively, and Jokic was one of them, so he was exploited
@@justinholland6132 Marcus Smart put up 15 ppg in 2022 playoffs, 18 in the year before. He averaged 15 ppg in the finals. He had 53% TS in the playoffs, 54% TS in the finals, which in part is caused by the warriors defensive scheme of letting lesser shooters shoot open above-the-break threes. The warriors attacked Jokic so badly in spread pick and roll in the playoffs that the combo of Steph, Klay, and Poole averaged 71.6 ppg. In game 5, whenever Jokic scored a bucket, Steph would attack him and score another one on his own. Jokic is great, it’s just that his position made his defensive capabilities more important to the game, which made him not as dependable as Steph in playoffs
@@danielzheng5765 so you're saying jokic is a worse defender than curry? Lmao. That logic is fricken stupid hedging is extremely risky and exploitable so if he was a good defender he wouldn't be doing it. For example guys like jaylen brown whos probably the 4th worst defender on the starting lineup(but still a good defender) dosent hedge so why is that? Klay isn't even a good defender anymore and keyvon looney is pretty good but no where near all defense lmao
Wow, I can't believe Capybara manages to be both one of the best tennis players ever, and manages to be the second best basketball player after Big Chungus.
For 84 what about De’Aaron Fox 🦊 27 points for January 1 to the end of the season and for 86 your not even gonna give Sabonis a mention sorry everyone for being a Sacramento kings fan, but I had to go kings🤴🏻
I don’t think Steph’s off ball movement is underrated at all. All you hear about is announcers and other players so how grueling it is to chase him around for 40 minutes
the best 89 overall is dame and it ain’t close.. he shouldn’t be an 89 should b 91-92 but bc he played through injury i guess to fans eyes brought down his productivition which sucks but he easily should the best 89
@@dannychamberlain6244 been watching nba since 08 and d book is one of the best if not the best sg in league but bc players like dame are an 89 and trae 90.. dbook should be 90 dame should b 92 and trae 91
If everyone is healthy and rested and hungry and I can only pick one 96 player for one game, I'm picking lebron. For a series I'm picking curry and for a season I'm picking Jokic. I don't think that actually makes any sense though I'm just trying to be clever
some of y’all need to stop letting the fact that Jack is a Disney character cloud your judgement. None of the Cobra Kai characters have done anything nearly as difficult or impressive as Jack. Yet Jack CAN do everything any of the Cobra Kai characters have ever done. Jack is just more skilled end of story. and before anyone says anything, yes I have watched both shows, and yes I’m old enough to have seen both when they originally aired (jus for clarity).
Bronsexual i see, warriors won cause of steph haha especially when they were down 2-1 and his teammates cannot hit a shot. Lebron didnt even make the playoffs with a better roster than jokic, why you making it sound like not making the playoffs with will barton being ur 2nd option is a bad thing lmao. Esppecially qhen u are a unathletic 6'2 guard
@@kuhieyei3855 no one mentioned lebron, he living rent free in your head for some reason, and before you come at me let me disclaimer I am not a fan of Lebron. If I could pick lebron Steph or jokic to add to my team I'm going Jokic, Bron has one foot in the retirement home and curry has an ankle in the retirement home you feel me
@@YargMonster nah fam i assumed he a bronsexual because of this brainless take, bron fans dont use their brain so whenever we see pointless statements like we assume its from a bronsexual
@@YargMonster yeah u right especially right now, they old as hell, but this guys take still doesnt make sense especially for last year. MPJ and Murray wont stop Warriors from scoring 70+ in like a quarter with jokic they wont be able to do that, wont stop curry scoring 34 off the bench either, they switch teams warriors may not even be able to make the finals.
Jokic > Curry. The Nuggets had three games where they barely lost against the Warriors despite the injuries and anyone who watched that series were saying Jokic was the best player on that series. Just look at the comments of warriors fans even acknowledging Jokic was the MVP in game 5.
As a Heat fan.. any Celtic fan about the 93 overall JT deserve it. He went to the finals with the Celtics he deserved 93 overall... there's just a lot of things that the heat needs to prove in order to make Jimmy back on the top
@@mchlwllsnd I appreciate your comments🙏🏼, but I think Tatum takes this 93 overall.. I feel like his rating is going to be high overall this upcoming season, I can promise you he will succeed the Celtics back to Glory
I won’t get mad for the jimmy butler vs jayson tatum spot at 93 overall that’s easily debatable, but to be very honest.. I would have chosen #0 over #22 by that’s just my opinion at the end of the day… also something to note is imagine your a 24 year old superstar and already playing in the nba finals that you took your team to with the help of other all-stars and key role players like c’mon let’s be somewhat realistic you’d be sh!tting your pants too don’t lie guys so give him at least the benefit of the doubt…
Tbh Jokic and Steph are equal imo. Like you said that you would reply on Curry to drop bombs when desperate time calls, I would say the same thing about Jokic. He can drop bombs from 3 point and he can also shoot froom or attack the paint during crunch time which Curry cannot do that as effecintly as a elite big man like Jokic can. Plus like you said that Curry is at the end of his prime while Jokic is still young and got much more to progress, if I were to choose between them I would pick Jokic, if I had to. But this year, Giannis is on a nother universe. No one can touch him for now. #GreekFreak 🔥
But Steph can shoot efficiently more than jokic and jokic edges out efficiency in the paint but don't underestimate Steph finishing he has consistently been top 10 in the league in finishing
How you gonna put Jimmy over Tatum when Tatum bounced his ass in the playoffs ?? You say Tatum can be blamed for the loss to the warriors but he’s also the reason they made it to the finals in the first place. Further than Jimmy
Did you watch the series? Jimmy was cooking Tatum, we lost because our 2nd best scorer and 6moty Tyler Herro was injured, Jimmy hit insane dagger after dagger, several 45+ pt games in that series
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:37 65-69 Overall
1:54 70-79 Overall
5:38 80-89 Overall
9:18 90-95 Overall
10:37 96 Overall
13:39 97 Overall+ Bonus Ratings
14:19 Outro
Jokic isn't a way more efficient scorer than Steph, they're both two of the most efficiant scorers of all time.
jokic finished last season with the highest PER in NBA history, even better than when wilt averaged 50 PPG. jokic is technically more efficient than steph but steph is efficient from beyond the arc which is a whole different shot and makes it impressive in its own right
@@Thiccjimbobway yeah it’s extremely hard to compare a 6,3 pg to a 6’11 center
@@Thiccjimbobway PER is not shooting efficiency
@@sm6996. i didn't see the shooter part, i thought he was just talking efficiency
Uhhh yes he is r u dumb
Siakam 86 is so disrespectful. He should be 89-90. This is his peak and they gave him a 88 in 2020 when he was much worse 🤦🏾♂️
Siakam disrespect is not surprising
Dude. I feel honored to get the honorable mention🤙🏼
Lol
Great video🔥 would love to see an all time ranking 2k video in the future
The bite of 87 joke got me 😂
Lmaooo I thought I was the only one that noticed that 😭
I really like these videos because they are rather unbiased as far as I can tell. Thanks for showing the raps love
I mean, to be fair, Curry ACTUALLY WAS in a “down 2-1” situation in the Finals, and did go absolutely nuclear for that one crucial game where it mattered the most. The man’s will was something else in that game, it was just stunning. But yeah, Jokic shouldn’t be counted out ever, he has everything going for him to be a future top 10 OAT player.
He already is
@@michaeldick5388 🤣
@@michaeldick5388 just by your name I knew the was a L take jokic is not top 10 oat he’s more like top 25 oat which is still very good and he is better than curry
No he ain't, he top 15
@@Alan-q6o That’s true actually, I realised pretty recently that Jokic has about a 95% chance of being one of the best to never win a championship, which isn’t really material for a top 10 of all time player. Still, the back to back MVPs do help his case as a great
kyrie over harden easily rn he a better defender shooter finisher scorer only real thing harden is better at rn is playmaking
"At 69 nice" 💯
Russell Westbrook is 78 overall too
There's a reason he didn't get considered 🤣
@@losttyrant7482 he is still better than all of em
Not buddy hield, and maybe not Gary Trent either, he has a chance to change that this season tho
So?😅
Shocked to hear Olivier Sarr, but gotta admit has done better than many would’ve expected after the one year at UK.
You are a 99
fax
thanks
Rebound Rewind is the first 99 overall since 2014
Jimmy Butler take aged perfectly
Jokic and Steph are both one-man offenses and I know that the Steph d riders are gonna hate this but truly i’d rather have Jokic defending on my team than Steph, great vid tho
I’d rather have steph for the simple reason that him exploiting jokic on defense was one of the key factors (besides injury obviously) that the warriors beat the nuggets the way they did.
@@nickvalentin9909 so you expect a 6 11 center to gaurd one of the best offensive players of all time but what about when curry was getting attacked by marcus smart in the post in game 3 of the finals? what about the fact the whole point of warriors defense is hide curry? i still think currys better but this is bad reasoning
@@justinholland6132 bruh marcus smart was not getting anything on Steph that series. The warriors don’t have to hide Steph on defense - it’s a strategic decision because Steph is a slightly above average defender now (people keep thinking of Steph from a couple years back but now he has become a decent defender) and everyone one else on his team are sub all defense worthy to all defense worthy defenders - Looney, Wiggins, Klay, Draymond. So of course, when the warriors want to keep Steph healthy and get the best defense, they try to stick with the better defenders, which does not mean Steph is a bad defender. On the other hand, the nuggets team was poor defensively, and Jokic was one of them, so he was exploited
@@justinholland6132 Marcus Smart put up 15 ppg in 2022 playoffs, 18 in the year before. He averaged 15 ppg in the finals. He had 53% TS in the playoffs, 54% TS in the finals, which in part is caused by the warriors defensive scheme of letting lesser shooters shoot open above-the-break threes.
The warriors attacked Jokic so badly in spread pick and roll in the playoffs that the combo of Steph, Klay, and Poole averaged 71.6 ppg. In game 5, whenever Jokic scored a bucket, Steph would attack him and score another one on his own. Jokic is great, it’s just that his position made his defensive capabilities more important to the game, which made him not as dependable as Steph in playoffs
@@danielzheng5765 so you're saying jokic is a worse defender than curry? Lmao. That logic is fricken stupid hedging is extremely risky and exploitable so if he was a good defender he wouldn't be doing it. For example guys like jaylen brown whos probably the 4th worst defender on the starting lineup(but still a good defender) dosent hedge so why is that? Klay isn't even a good defender anymore and keyvon looney is pretty good but no where near all defense lmao
Wow, I can't believe Capybara manages to be both one of the best tennis players ever, and manages to be the second best basketball player after Big Chungus.
You are amazing ❤
man said Jokic is going to be in the goat debate
The jokic praise got you a subscriber
Aaron Gordon's rating is a 79 now? What?!
Jokic > Curry
For 84 what about De’Aaron Fox 🦊 27 points for January 1 to the end of the season and for 86 your not even gonna give Sabonis a mention sorry everyone for being a Sacramento kings fan, but I had to go kings🤴🏻
You should do ranking front courts of each current team
Cmon how did 2k put luka over kawhi as if rn kawhi is the better playee
If Chris Paul is a 90 then Paul george should be
Why did you keep comparing 2016 Curry to Jokic, it doesn’t really make sense
So happy Big Chungus is finally getting the respect he deserves 🙏🙏🙏
I don’t think Steph’s off ball movement is underrated at all. All you hear about is announcers and other players so how grueling it is to chase him around for 40 minutes
Klay and Wiggins way underrated
Klay played like ass the whole year and was hella inconsistent. Wiggins should be higher tho for sure
This is great
I still don’t know how Marcus smart won DPOY smh
Going Big Chungus over Shaq is a big swing, but man it’s the right swing.
The disrespect for Russell Westbrook is insane
Great video as always, thank you captain 🌺
the best 89 overall is dame and it ain’t close.. he shouldn’t be an 89 should b 91-92 but bc he played through injury i guess to fans eyes brought down his productivition which sucks but he easily should the best 89
“The bite of 87” reference >>>>
THE BITE OF JAYLEN BROWN
Ain’t no way you actually think Ja will be better than Tatum in the next few years. His team literally better without him 😂😂
tatum sold in the finals to be fair, and ja once he learns should be better than tatum
his tatum take hasn’t aged well this season at all
Dejounte averaging 20 8 and 8 on a shitty team and only being an 86 is crazy. The fact that he wasn't picked is way worse
fnaf reference i goated
that 88 for pg is so damn disrespectful, that man was literally the 2nd maybe number 1 2 way guard in the league last season
1:21 WHY’D YOU DO MAH BOI D-BOOK LIKE THAT!?? MANE’S STRAIGHT 🆙 TRIPPEN ON FOLKS N EM 😤😠😡🤬
Tatum is a 94 Ovr btw
I think Book should’ve been a 92 or 93, and if it were not for that game 7, he would’ve most likely been one
should be 89-90 at best only reason he’s 91 is bc he’s cover
If you think he’s that low than you probably haven’t watched basketball.
@@dannychamberlain6244 been watching nba since 08 and d book is one of the best if not the best sg in league but bc players like dame are an 89 and trae 90.. dbook should be 90 dame should b 92 and trae 91
I would have personally put kd for 96 but how could you not even mention embiid
Alternative title: 2k player ratings that are wrong
Mans said the bite of 87💀
Westbrook should have definitely made it
If everyone is healthy and rested and hungry and I can only pick one 96 player for one game, I'm picking lebron. For a series I'm picking curry and for a season I'm picking Jokic. I don't think that actually makes any sense though I'm just trying to be clever
I get what you mean, the consistency is one of Jokic's best assets, hence why he is the only player to get 2000, 1000, and 500 in one season.
some of y’all need to stop letting the fact that Jack is a Disney character cloud your judgement. None of the Cobra Kai characters have done anything nearly as difficult or impressive as Jack. Yet Jack CAN do everything any of the Cobra Kai characters have ever done. Jack is just more skilled end of story. and before anyone says anything, yes I have watched both shows, and yes I’m old enough to have seen both when they originally aired (jus for clarity).
Ja
You should do, the best retired player by 2k ratings
Steph deserves the spot at 96, but i would argue Embiid is on par with Jokic due to being a much better defensive player.
About the steph case you said present not all-time but brought up 2016 steph
to compare current Steph to 2016 Steph
Does DeMar DeRozan not exist???
Horrible to have Steph over Jokic. If they switched teams, the Warriors could still win the finals but the Nuggets wouldn’t make the playoffs.
Bronsexual i see, warriors won cause of steph haha especially when they were down 2-1 and his teammates cannot hit a shot. Lebron didnt even make the playoffs with a better roster than jokic, why you making it sound like not making the playoffs with will barton being ur 2nd option is a bad thing lmao. Esppecially qhen u are a unathletic 6'2 guard
@@kuhieyei3855 no one mentioned lebron, he living rent free in your head for some reason, and before you come at me let me disclaimer I am not a fan of Lebron. If I could pick lebron Steph or jokic to add to my team I'm going Jokic, Bron has one foot in the retirement home and curry has an ankle in the retirement home you feel me
@@YargMonster nah fam i assumed he a bronsexual because of this brainless take, bron fans dont use their brain so whenever we see pointless statements like we assume its from a bronsexual
@@YargMonster yeah u right especially right now, they old as hell, but this guys take still doesnt make sense especially for last year. MPJ and Murray wont stop Warriors from scoring 70+ in like a quarter with jokic they wont be able to do that, wont stop curry scoring 34 off the bench either, they switch teams warriors may not even be able to make the finals.
Jokic > Curry. The Nuggets had three games where they barely lost against the Warriors despite the injuries and anyone who watched that series were saying Jokic was the best player on that series. Just look at the comments of warriors fans even acknowledging Jokic was the MVP in game 5.
Curry > jokic both side had injuries also no one said that jokic was the MVP in game 5
Wasn’t curry coming off the bench that series??
Exactly
Well again he is a time traveler and this all is something that can Debate all day long so let's just see how they play in real life
Not having Simmons at 83 is CRAZY
Westbrook is a 78 overall and he is the best 78 player not some random player.
Nah not having the big cheese at 99 is crazy
Nikola Jokic will NEVER be in the goat debate man
Lesss goooo he got my man Evan Fournier
Floppa should be 100
Big chungus GOAT
Not even mentioning Haliburton in the 84 group disrespectful
Reading the title confused me for a sec ngl
All I got from this list. Is the raptors were rated horribly in 2k
As a Heat fan.. any Celtic fan about the 93 overall JT deserve it. He went to the finals with the Celtics he deserved 93 overall... there's just a lot of things that the heat needs to prove in order to make Jimmy back on the top
I’m a Celtics fan, but I think that Jimmy is clearly better than Tatum.
@@mchlwllsnd I appreciate your comments🙏🏼, but I think Tatum takes this 93 overall.. I feel like his rating is going to be high overall this upcoming season, I can promise you he will succeed the Celtics back to Glory
Best player from every all nba team total
No russ? Is that really how bad russ is this season?
The cover for the video is a scam, you put Jayson Tatum but in the video you picked Jimmy
Shaqtin a fool MVP Javale McGee didn't make the list, oh..too bad😁
I won’t get mad for the jimmy butler vs jayson tatum spot at 93 overall that’s easily debatable, but to be very honest.. I would have chosen #0 over #22 by that’s just my opinion at the end of the day… also something to note is imagine your a 24 year old superstar and already playing in the nba finals that you took your team to with the help of other all-stars and key role players like c’mon let’s be somewhat realistic you’d be sh!tting your pants too don’t lie guys so give him at least the benefit of the doubt…
Jokic isn't mediocre defender, he had more defensive win shares than anyone else in the ptevoous season.
Wtf Rudy gobert led in defensive win shares not jokic
@@yetundeadeyemi2436 My bad, Jokic was 2nd,but Tatum was first and Gobert only 3rd.
Kyrie over Harden, Bane over Klay
Gary Trent over Westbrook that's tuff
W ending
Tbh Jokic and Steph are equal imo. Like you said that you would reply on Curry to drop bombs when desperate time calls, I would say the same thing about Jokic. He can drop bombs from 3 point and he can also shoot froom or attack the paint during crunch time which Curry cannot do that as effecintly as a elite big man like Jokic can. Plus like you said that Curry is at the end of his prime while Jokic is still young and got much more to progress, if I were to choose between them I would pick Jokic, if I had to.
But this year, Giannis is on a nother universe. No one can touch him for now. #GreekFreak 🔥
He can’t stop Boston what you talking bout
But Steph can shoot efficiently more than jokic and jokic edges out efficiency in the paint but don't underestimate Steph finishing he has consistently been top 10 in the league in finishing
How you gonna put Jimmy over Tatum when Tatum bounced his ass in the playoffs ?? You say Tatum can be blamed for the loss to the warriors but he’s also the reason they made it to the finals in the first place. Further than Jimmy
👍🏽
Tatum did sell out pretty badly in the last 2 rounds of the post season... brown, williams III and horford only had the real hunger to win...
Did you watch the series? Jimmy was cooking Tatum, we lost because our 2nd best scorer and 6moty Tyler Herro was injured, Jimmy hit insane dagger after dagger, several 45+ pt games in that series
Bounced his ass his a crazy way of saying barely scraped by due to a overturned 3 and missed potential gamewinner
I subbed for him putting Jimmy butler over Tatum I love butler
how is lavine on here and demar is not as demar was the bulls best player and should easily have a ranking in the high 80s
AUSTIN REAVES OVER THADDEUS YOUNG?!?!?
Let’s make it Splash as usual ….. 🏀
I thick Damian Lillard and Steph curry should both have the same Overall
didnt even mention embiid for 96??
great video but when devin booker got a lower rating then ja in his 3rd nba seson when devin booker is in his 7th i sow how rigged the cover
is
Where the fuck is Tyler herro at
Where is Markelle fultz he is a 78 overall
is dean wade the son of dwayne wade
Quindary Weatherspoon 💀
This some accurate rating
Also you picked Evan Fournier over Cam Payne ! YOUR A MAD MAN REBOUND REWIND!! ⏪ another thing too is why is they’re no 92 overall(s) 🤷🏻♂️🤔🧐🤨
Wiggins is dog crap over Murry and Mobley?!
WESTBROOK SNUBBED
How is Curry on a decline when he just won the championship?
because he is 34 years old
@Jake Noah Curry today is not the same as Curry in 2016
@@gyrossteelballs9877 Nah he was even better in the postseason
They meat riding d book he should be 85 ovr and trae should have the 91
where’s ben simmons for 83
Wtf was that ending 💀