Is Brexit Failing? 4 Tests to Find Out
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With Brexit now in the rear view mirror and trade war on the horizon, we wanted to check how things are going. So we spoke to Professor Jonathan Portes (UK in a Changing Europe) to test Brexit on 4 different metrics & see how things are going.
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Who could have guessed that tightening trade restrictions with your biggest trading partner would be a bad idea!
Whodve thunk that remoaners'd never be happy? EU punishing us? That's obvious.
Bad idea... economically. But no noticeable hit to GDP so far.
People vote on political, social and cultural grounds too. Not just economic. Some people on 50k+ voted Labour in 2019.
The world is a big place. CCTPP IS BIGGER THAN EU!
@@danielwebb8402 Cultural pride can't feed your kids.
@@danielwebb8402 GDP must drop. Reason being it is more difficult and therefore more expensive to export anything from G B.
That MUST hit the bottom line.
Let's sumarize. Before the launch of the train all the experts said this would be a trainwreck. Then when the train left the station it immediately became a trainwreck. And now we are wondering whether this trainwreck is in fact a trainwreck. Right..
Lol why is this so accurate
you left out the bit where the passengers boarded shouting experts know nothing and project fear
Nobody saw this coming except for everyone with even the slightest connection to reality.
pretty much derailed on the 1st switch.
And then right now it's the fuel tank leaking and catching fire.
It's definitely much more of a train wreck than not according to these facts, but, we're in control of it. Yay?
On economics: it's YET not "absolute disaster" - because the UK didn't even implement the Brexit in full at the moment. As a reminder: the checks on incoming goods into the UK are yet NOT in place. The moment that comes into play the trade hindrance will become even worse than it is now. That is also on a premise that the UK government will not proceed with its NI protocol shenanigans - because if it will - all bets are off.
Until those checks on incoming goods are put in place, the UK farmers are at a disadvantage when completing with cheap imports that enter the country unimpeded
@@bornach So real Brexit is going to cause prices to rise even more !
@@bornach That's a little bit of a weird argument. That's implying the checks will be beneficial on average because they'll benefit only one part of one sector of the economy, while raising food prices for literally everyone else.
Britain is not a primarily agricultural economy, so I think it's more likely that more expensive food will be worse for the average person.
The only question worth asking now is whether Britain produces more food than it consumes.
@@madamesaundere definetly not
You can only decide if Brexit is a success or failure if you know what the goal is.
If the goal was a massive power-grab, it's doing just fine.
if your goal is to prosper, meh
Exactly, treasure at the end of Brexit was always banking and business deregulation and the privatisation of the NHS. The best way to achieve these goals is to claim "there is no alternative" because it's the only way to get a trade deal with the US that the UK "needs" to survive the "EU punishments".
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@Don Doodat Power grab by who? The way I see it, brexit was conducted by a mix of useless politicians and remainers who didnt want to just get on with it. The giving away of northern ireland being a prime example.
Well done to those who grabbed the power and those who voted for it and are now without a job… well played
I don't really understand the point on migration... I'm pretty sure most of the people who voted for Brexit on the grounds of migration would NOT be happy to see more migrants from outside the EU.
That’s what I was thinking. So when they made the point on non-EU migrants replacing the EU ones I was quite surprised it passed as that’s just a worse version of what we already had.
It's a legitimate Brexit benefit, that migrants are now taking a higher proportion of high paid jobs, leaving the more desirable low pay options available for the discerning Brexit supporters.
@@Keltik0ne nice
the vote happened in the refugee crisis. i think many though the EU was recruiting and actively letting in non-eu migrants
The messaging was that someone wanting to move to the UK to live and work should a) have to ask permission b) same rules / hurdles if coming from Portugal or Pakistan, Estonia or Ecuador.
That's not unreasonable / moronic.
It was to "control" immigration. Not stop.
The only test is: are we worse off now than the EU? Answer: yes. Brexit is nothing short of an embarrassment.
Not to mention the damage it has caused in relations between us. Looming trade war, navies being sent to the Channel to patrol fishing areas, whatever else.
But the NHS must be doing very well now after so many days spending 300M/day on it.
I find it somewhat shocking that people can feel so strongly about a bloody trading bloc. It won’t ruin a country and a country shouldn’t be hated for leaving one.
@@maxdavis7722 equally, being part of one isn’t a democratic disaster and people shouldn’t be hated and vilified for believing we’re overall better off as part of one.
@@maxdavis7722 EU never was a trading bloc. It is, and it always has been (read the Treaty of Rome) a political bloc that uses trade as a key tool to achieve its political goals (specifically, preventing another war among its members by making them so interdependent that any military aggression against a fellow member would economically destroy the aggressor).
The fact that UK never wanted to accept this reality - while reaping trade advantages from membership - was a root cause of Brexit.
@@maxdavis7722 I detest brexit, my freedom of movement, ability to freely travel, work and retire across a continent has be damaged
The UK was not ready for a Brexit, Economy was far from strong, No good Trade deals or trade partners in place planned for Brexit, there wasnt even a plan or protocols prepared. Even the PM ran away from their responsibilities.
This is the best case scenario for Brexit.
And they called Project Fear
@@julianshepherd2038 Project Reality.
@@vinhbao9738 good game
All of those things should have been in place BEFORE a referendum
Johnson wouldn't be trying to back out of his own deal with the EU if Northern Ireland's economy wasn't a perfect illustration that leaving was a huge mistake. That's really all you need to know.
Wasn't a mistake for Johnson
It made him Prime Minister which is the only thing he really wanted from Brexit
@@bornach That is true, but I suspect he didn't want a legacy of - at best - a Prime Ministership filled from start to finish with scandals and leaving a bunch of unfinished business, and at worst, the Prime Minister who lost Northern Ireland.
Truth. NI and the NIP are the posterboy of why brexit is an economical act of self-harm.
@@SRFriso94 "Who lost Northern Ireland," to the Gammons the Six Counties are an encumbrance they can't give away. The damage to the union is Cameron's legacy, like Trump, De Piffle is a symptom not a cause.
@@thecondesce3904 *Looks at current date*
Alas, but no. He got the boot because he knowingly hired a sex pest and his own party were mad at him for not being more competent at lying about it. A shame. On the bright side, in the last two by-election the Tories have been slaughtered. So I give it good odds that they lose the majority in parliament. Be nice, wouldn't it.
My failure metrics are violence in Ireland, break up of the UK, damage to UK economy / exports & political & cultural status.
Brexit I believe has been damaging but we have not yet seen it play out in full.
A lot of the above is down to a Government not doing what is required to stop any of it, despite having the majority and the means to do it, just for whatever reason, not the will to do it.
That is the trick of "Think Tanks". They pose themselves as neutral to push right-wing propaganda as science. So, Brexit did not transform the UK in a post-apocalyptic landscape in a year, and they call it mixed bag. It is not. Everything announced is happening. The example that comes to mind is: someone jumps down a cliff thinking they will fly. They crash on the ground, but they call success 'cause they do not die, they are just injured for life. Is that a mixed bag?
@@ChrisWalter They are too busy doing gimmicks and not managing anything.
Another is your feckless government intent on treating migrants better than its citizens. You are becoming more suited to joining an African Union than a European Union.
@@ChrisWalter Before this one, we had a government in May that actually tried to build a functional brexit, and we had a Tory leadership election with at least half a dozen hopefuls who wanted to succeed on the same mission statement where she had failed. Then we had a general election with even more solutions offered. Time and time again the leave voting public demanded that Boris show up and blast it through like he was driving a freight train through an operating theatre. Sensible just wasn't on the cards for brexit from the start.
You know it was a failure when the conservatives said everything will be cheaper and get better...
To be fair, when Conservatives talk about everything being cheaper and better what they mean is you'll pay more for a crappier service so that we can make more money. It's the same principle as when they talk about lower taxes what they mean is lower for them. So in that regards, far from being a failure, it was a huge success.
You are aware voting to leave is (was) a bi-partisan issue yes?
Johnson just 221 MPs against 429.
Good analysis, but I would dispute a couple of points.
Regarding migration: First of all, I'm not convinced that many Brexiteers are at all happy that EU migrants have been supplanted by migrants from further affield (due to racism and xenophobia). Secondly, the UK economy does not necessarily need skilled migrant labour - many sectors of the economy relied on hard-working unskilled labour (for instance, working in agriculture) - which local Brits cannot fill (because farming communities who need this labour are geographically far away from where most local unemployed people live). So importing skilled professionals may actually saturate the market for high-paid jobs, leaving the dregs for the locals - which, again, Brexiteers will hardly be happy about. Also, it does not solve the huge personell shortages in the economy.
Regarding control: Well, depends on what exactly you mean by "control". The UK now has total freedom to make its own laws and can theoretically ignore EU laws. De facto, however, the UK is now an isolated little island surrounded by much bigger sharks. In realpolitik, the UK will have to give in to demands by bigger powers. A good example is the simple fact that the UK will have to follow EU regulations just to export to the EU, without having any say in making those regulations - which actually amounts to a loss of control.
So I would really put red crosses in those two categories as well. Let's face it, Brexit is the f***ing fiasco experts have been predicting it would be.
You make excellent points. Especially regarding "control".
Well said. We lost a trading market, a good supply of workers, influence and a weak currency. Thanks a bunch Farage… wonder where this plonker is now.
I am not sure what was the problem with EU low skilled workers. I went to work in UK for a summer. It was minimal wage jobs in an accomodation center, like cleaning apartments. I have never seen so many hard working people. Most of us were from Poland, Hungary and Lithuania. Everyone worked really fast and good for a minimal wage. If someone did not meet the brutal standards, they were fired. I got a notice as well that I need to improve my cleaning speed otherwise I will get kicked. I tell you honestly, I worked as well as I could before the notice, yet I still got it. Luckily I was not fired.
In my eastern european country no one works this hard for minimal wage.
@@Arnouxvaze I feel for you, but this is typical for Britain. Extremely low worker protection, few regulations, and accordingly often atrocious working conditions. In Germany, where I currently live, it's simply not possible to fire someone out of hand. You need to give them several months' notice, and often the contract will require you to have a good reason to fire them. Britain however is terrible in this regard.
And they do this while moaning about foreigners. My girlfriend's father worked as a chef in a British Hotel in the 80s and was absolutely shocked at how the foreign workers were treated - especially the Pakistanis. Racism, coupled with abusive working relationships, blackmail, low wages, and the constant fear of being fired. And back then the foreign workers even got worse food than the locals.
As Britain is learning the hard way, migrants are those who power the British economy and fill the nation's coffers with tax revenue.
@@Arnouxvaze The problem for the little engerlanders was that they can't recognize European immigrants at an eye's glance until they open their mouths and speak so a little engerlander might accidentally wish them a good day. People from South Asia and elsewhere however are readily identifiable as foreign so they can indulge and exercise their racism right off the bat. And if you think that this sounds petty and small-minded...well, it is!
If I'd voted to remain - I'd have a severe case of the "I told you so's".
If I'd voted to leave I'd be angry at the failure of government to realise all the advantages that they promised Brexit would bring!
was it legal for you to vote on this non binding referendum ?
If you voted leave you might not even understand what is happening right now. The most important is that Boris told them they are now free. I just wonder what they can do they could not do before.
@@jerryorange6983 Cash in their food stamps and unemployment checks, by the looks of things.
@@simmerke1111 Yep, before they were going to banks for cash, now they go to food banks.
Yes, I agree. A significant proportion of those who voted Brexit are not interested, nor comprehend the fiscal damage Brexit has wrought. Especially if they perceive this economic result has negatively affected The ‘Bankers’ which is, for a lot of Brexiteers a desired outcome. Even though ironically, the opposite seems true.
But, the jingoism, reduced immigration, and freedoms from promised by Populist Boris and his chums from the perceived stranglehold from the EU is still sufficient.
On the issue of "Control" - saying that this is a positive, given the character of the people in the executive (the Johnson Cabal), is rather like reassuring mothers at a kindergarten that all the sharp knives on the premises are securely in the control of the psychopathic chef (who's in a particularly bad mood today).
Would have thought a better analogy would be reassuring mothers and fathers that their children are perfectly safe with their new teacher Jimmy Savile.
"Today on Hell's Kitchen: eight year olds try to make beef Wellington!"
Wonderful, every time I learn more about Brexit, my determination to keep Denmark a full member of the EU grows...
Reddit is the best thing that happened to the EU🤷🏽♂️
Same me with Czechia.
In very happy we left but I'm furious about the dismal poor deal our government signed up to.
@@pstanyer1 Leaving WAS the bad deal, my friend.
yeah id say Denmark just hasn't got 'it' to be out of the EU.
Brexit is going exactly as intended by its architects.
Hint, these intentions were not on the side of that bus.
We haven't seen the worst of it yet.
..and people...ie the ones not looking at the facts of EXPERTS still voted to leave..bEcAuSe ThE ReD BuSSeS sAiD sO
Its gonna be really funny when i next go on holiday hearing people complain about needing a visa and stuff to go on holiday.
If anything i should be the one complaining, not them- they voted for this, not me, so they got exactly what they voted for lol
Of course, Putin hasn’t had a bus running during the campaign.
Sadly I think many still would've voted for it even if they did plaster the actual truth on the side of the bus. Hell, some still have a massive hard on for Boris right now.
Like he said in the video, the only ones whose salaries increased were bankers in London. Weird, how that was the result everyone was predicting before it was voted on.
A lot of people don’t discuss how fuel prices are linked to buying oil by the dollar, and due to Brexit, the pound is very weak. Whilst Ukraine war made the price of oil higher, the U.K. will pay more due to such a weak currency from what it once was
If you want to increase the strength of the currency surely that could be achieved by raising interest rates.
Petro-dollar goes brrr
How is the pound very weak when £1 = US$1.23 ? In my country(Jamaica) the pound goes much further than the US dollar or thr Euro
A lot of people are ignorant to it and for jingoist reasons will never accept Brexit is causing any problems.
@@Lando-kx6so I don’t think they mean to imply it’s totally weak, just that it’s weaker than it once was, or would have otherwise been
The biggest issue with that "take back control" part is how it is being used. First Patel starts restricting your rights to protest, and now they are openly talking about withdrawing from the ECHR, basically saying that "we'll have our own human rights, with blackjack, and hookers".
The thing is...do you really want BoJo the clown, and Dominic "I don’t believe in economic and social rights" Raab to watch over the replacement?
JFC brits, would you please get your s**t together.
Us in the EU were first sad to see you go. Now we are horrified at what your once great country is turning into.
So, yes, you guys did "take back control", but the things you are doing with that control should put that point into the "fail" pile.
We (UK) can have more / different rights. Just vote for a party proposing them.
We can vote the Conservative party out.
@@danielwebb8402 what different rights do you want?
What more rights do you want (that you couldn't have got while still in the eu)?
@@iapetusmccool right to protest, for example
Please help us
@@iapetusmccool
If we don't want these changes we can... vote for a different party. Is my point. I believe in democracy and include UK people in my sphere of valid democratic voters, not French or Portuguese.
Personally? I'm very happy with the proposed stronger police powers of "protests". No one has the human right to block a road or tear down statues that happen to currently personally make them sad.
I disagree with the ECHR over ruling UK courts this past week. I'm aware the ECHR isn't the EU.
The original comment I was replying to was implying "Yes we have control. But I don't like the changes." Which is really saying "The UK public voted to change X. I like X. I must have my own way. Therefore I want a foreign entity to keep X."
8:43 That graph is utterly unconvincing for the claim that immigration of skilled workers has "unexpectedly" increased. The linear growth seems to match pre-pandemic trends (excluding the lockdown year), the only tangible increase seems to be in study visas. Well, as a UK resident one can easily figure out the root cause for these trends too: the University places that EU students were once securing, without having any visa requirement, have now been overtaken by a growing Asian community, largely cash-supported by their own governments. Having taught some of them myself, I can confidently tell you that, for many different reasons, most of these students have no intention to remain in the UK post-degree (especially true for many Chinese graduates).
Now, you can judge for yourself whether this investment will pay out and lead to an increase in skilled migration in the long term, but I would argue it won't, and that graph supports my claim thus far.
I am a UK student from Pakistan. I also intend to leave the UK because I don't expect the economy to get better. Also I expect the brits to get more bigoted once the economy starts going south. And the taxes are too high too.
@@bloodfiredrake7259 not all of us voted to leave..it'll mostly be the over 60s and/or uneducated that voted for this because they want britain to be like when they were kids- terrible (and i bet most of them dont actually know what exactly they voted for)
And on behalf of them because ik how they'll act- sorry!
And yeah, im a student too (lived here since i was 7 and got citizenship) and i think i want to go back to the continent tbh..i really dont like the culture here of blaming everything and everyone but themselves, its really draining.
@@alexthesb2241 The racism part has more to do with the fact that when economies don't do well racism increases. Not with brexit per say.
Foreign students are NOT skilled workers...they will be one day.
So just add up their number to the skilled immigrants to learn a more accurate figure about the new foreigners.
It was a 51/49 vote forced by goverment to stop the rise of nationalism. No wonder we see a divide. People voted cause they thought it gave the UK power to prevent oppression. When the vote was 51 in favour the leadership of the nation ran away. I voted remain, i was just old enough but considering i'm from the North I understand why people voted leave because it was a oppotunity for them to see change in their poor areas. You speak like a spoilt child as your missing the root cause of Brexit. Perhaps the UK needs this turmoil for change to happen. Rich igroning issues at the expense of others is the UK problem. Scotland has been shouting it for a while, because their sovereignty is absolute they can shout louder than others in the UK.
Is Brexit failing?
Short answer: Yes
Long answer: yes
you not quite grasp that the United Kingdom*has*seceded - past tense, from the European Federation?
Are you federalists still squealing like stuck pigs over your thrice thrashing and do you not quite understand that the more you squeal like stuck pigs the more you sweeten the schadenfreude of those that thrashed you not just once or twice, but three times in a row?
It is asinine to use the present tense in relation to the past. "Is brexit failing" is identical to asking is the Battle of Trafalgar failing - it is gibberish. The United Kingdom seceded from thee European Federation the very moment that the last of the enabling acts was repealed. Whether you want to characterise it as spilt milk or something else, the fact remains that the milk is spilt and crying over it will achieve nothing. That-which-*is*-and-cannot-be-different does not become different because some moaning Minnie does not like it. You cannot change the past as secession has occurred - is the past. the United Kingdom is now independent and sovereign once more, and that took place the very moment that the lasst of the enabling acts was repealed-*past*tense.
Another answer. no.
@@0penminds You are correct "No" is another answer, it's just that it's the wrong answer.
@@paulag7634 We left the EU. Goal achieved.
@@0penminds If your goal was to stuff the country then, yes, I guess it was.
I think you can sum it up by the fact that they appointed a Minister for brexit opportunities and so far the best he's come up with is bringing back imperial measurements
And big, powerful hoovers;-))
"imperial measurements" -- which were perfectly fine as part of the EU. Heck, I have tape measures and rulers that have imperial measures, bought in the Netherlands.
Big, _noisy and inefficient_ hoovers...
Mind boggling
@@allandoyle5733 I want my wife to have a big powerful "hoover". The ones on the EU market are shyte.
"The day we leave the EU everyone will be better of." - That hasn't materialized.
I am no better off now than I was in 2015. In fact I will be worse off as brexit has made it harder for touring musicians to perform in the eu. Touring by the way is how all non famous musicians make their money by the way.
I am better off I am no longer in the EU. It's amazing that people cannot understand that brexit was done and dusted. We are out but you are really moaning about the useless seal our remainer MPs signed
When we do leave it will
@@pstanyer1 Brexit isn't even finished you clown. The problems with the Northern Irish border are yet to be resolved, and most of the checks on goods coming into the UK haven't been implented yet. The UK is on a collision course with economic decline
@@pstanyer1 alright then. How are you better off exactly
When you look at brexit as a full-scale socio - economic experiment you would have to admitt, that it only confirmed the predictions, that is was conducted poorly, and is way over budget. But if you look for achievements... . Well, don't!
Create United States of Europe 🗿
Goods exports to the EU reached £16.4bn in April 2022, their highest level in current prices since the series began in 1997.
@@jrobs1133 Because the prices are up 10% compared to last year alone. Any comparison must be inflation adjusted and comparing the 20th century with today, while the entire economy has changed, is like arguing pro brexit with "we won the war". Don't be that stupid!
Back in 2016 I was working in Germany and couldn’t believe the difference in quality of discussion over Brexit in the German and UK media. The UK populace were treated as idiots…..and that’s probably what a lot are, sadly. Most in the UK were and are spoon fed a host of total untruths about the EU. The UK should have stayed in, and fought within, to bring about change where needed.
Something I have noticed about the UK for some time is that the media and much of the population just seems to have zero respect for other nations. Not to mention that the averge Brit seems pretty ignorant about life in other european nations. I believe that to a large degree explains the Brexit discussion and those differences.
@@XMysticHerox I agree. There is a lot of jingoism and a worrying amount of people who still haven't realised that Britain is not the superpower it once was. So many people still live in the shadow of the victory in world war two, banging on about how great the UK is, how we saved Europe (although not as much as the Americans claim to have done for Europe in the war). An American diplomat remarked in the early 1960s about how he felt Britain had not found its new place on the world stage in the midst of the collapse of the empire, and I think that still holds true today. The UK can't decide whether to act like a major power or a regional power and find its place in Europe. So many British people think that we are inexplicably better than "the continentals", when we've just been falling behind for years.
@@pingu255 "The UK can't decide whether to act like a major power or a regional power and find its place in Europe."
Frankly I think the UK has decided. On still beign a superpower. Of course that is delusional but they seem to do it anyways.
Sure there are plenty of reasonable Brits but even people on the left seem to feel superior as you said.
The UK needs a wake up call. Maybe a trade war with the EU can do that though at this point I am not even sure.
@@XMysticHerox sadly I don't think people will ever truly wake up. We're too fargone. It is really a disgrace that so many brexiteers don't realise that brexit does not benefit them at all. Brexit was a ploy by the elites and big businesses to keep making money, and avoid future EU tax legislation. As usual the british people have been brainwashed and held to ransom by Johnson and his cronies. I don't think even a trade war would wake these fools up to reality, people like Nigel Farage would just use it to rally up even more jingoism.
The problems will only be solved when people start holding the brexiteers in the conservative party to account. Until then I don't have much hope, which is why I will soon be leaving the UK. Luckily for me, unlike many british people now stuck here, my family is Northern Irish so I have an Irish passport and am therefore still an EU citizen.
Its not that Brits have disrespect for others, its that those places you mention are poor. The real issue for years in the UK is the lack of investment in poorer areas. Big cities got mega investment, poorer cities non. London get mega infrastructure investment, the rest of the begged for the current infrastucture to be upgraded over wasting it in London. There is about 100 year gap of major investment in some parts of the UK.
Vladimir says it goes according to plan 💣
It's almost like when you jeopardize your county's standing and take it out of established deals, negotiations and regulations that came with that alliance you were just in, the rest of the world and those countries you just had close ties and trade with, lose faith in your country's ability to keep up with standards for everything from product imports and exports, to humanitarian and societal issues, as well as your ability to be a reliable and responsible partner of any kind.
Control: I would also say a mixed bag, especially when talking trade as for 45%+ of exports have to follow EU rules which the UK now has no input. Also, the CE mark is a global standard that the UK now also has no say.
This. UK doesn't have a say in this anymore. Blaming EU for 'their' rules UK has to follow is the opposite of control!
@@arpaulus - And the UK _had_ a universal veto on all EU rules previously. Everything the EU passed was approved by the UK.
What happens when big businesses lobby governments:
Before, the UK had a say in the entire EU. Now, Westminster controls... Westminster. And yet, the guy checks "Control". You couldn't make it up. 😂
@Leroy Jenkins That's correct.
@Leroy Jenkins Why would I understand what can't be understood by normal, sane people by simply reading the news? You ok there?
It was a failure from day one.
Making the referendum a binary choice between staying and leaving without allowing the population to make a properly informed decision to go through with the deal that was ultimately negotiated was always going to result in a disaster.
Yes taking back control or not was always a election lol never mind thinking isn't for the left
Who even had the idea of it in the first place?
@@davidty2006 well that's difficult to answer accurately, to begin with some opposed it since the start, but assuming you mean the current Brexit, it was Cameron's attempt to shut up groups that were campaigning for leaving the EU but he underestimated them and lost which then started the deal may tried to get through that Boris eventually did, to answer the exact question brexit wasn't an idea invented recently it just some groups had a large enough voice that Cameron decided to try and shut them to no avail
@@hex135 *sigh*
He forgot rule 1.
If someone won't shut up just shoot them.
Also Cameron framed the referendum badly. Any referendum usually needs a significant percentage “for” something to carry it to take into account people that didn’t vote (that you can arguably say didn’t want the change enough to vote for it). This referendum was just a simple (and in this case marginal) majority. It was also not legally binding, something that seemed to have been conveniently forgotten by everyone involved.
It’s just delicious that all the regions that voted for Brexit are now going to feel double burn. Except for Scotland of course. Stay strong my European brethren! It will take another 20-30 years but this is your path to independence from London!
@quang bach I'd go 5 for a united Ireland and a free Scotland. Wales and England deserve each other.
@@srpskihayk Wow. No Scotland, EU or N Ireland = 15% basic rate of income tax for England. Touch
England's biggest problem is their own feckless government. Given that, it might be better to let Europe call the shots for them.
All the regions which are having the strongest ties with the EU are having the most growth. If the EU is really going after London, Scotland and Northern Ireland, the UK is screwed.
@@hendrikdependrik1891
Except Northern Ireland had slower than UK average growth in 2021.
And the latest quarter (Q1 22) lower too.
It's just there was one quarter it had higher. And some remainers concentrate on that and assume, without reading, that this must still be the case. As it happened to agree with their opinion.
You misunderstood the issue of control completely. The power to write your own laws would have been the correct standard during the Middle Ages, but in current times it is only a measure of isolationism. The world-class models for this kind of control are North Korea and Cuba. The ones with real control in today's world are those who can push the rest of the world in the direction that serves them. And in this sense, Germany, France, and the EU are the ones with control. The UK is just one more "third country" that has to accept what the powerful nations and blocks decide to push unless you want to be the North Korea on the Thames.
I mean... cutting yourself out of one of the largest single-markets in the world seems to be pretty isolationist.
I'd say that, all things considered, I'd write Brexit off as a success at that point- with the power centralization being a pleasant surprise that allows for additional isolationist actions to be taken.
"The country is objectively worse off, but at least Boris is bossing us around, rather than the EU."
Ah yes, much better to have a lying, corrupt sociopath at the helm.
You can vote to boot out the PM at the next election, you can't do that with the EU chief.
@@0w784g The EU chief is determined by election too.
@@timogul Are you European? Which president did you vote for last time? What were your choice of candidates?
@@0w784g The EU chief is selected by the various representatives the people elect in the exact same way that the Prime Minister is selected by the ministers that the people elect. Neither system offers a direct election of a leader like the US does.
I don't think hardcore brexiteers would agree on the migration front being a "positive"
I had seen a chart which showed voting issues such as taxation, law, NHS, pensions, yet the most prominently increasing issue over the years was immigration. Once a vote on the EU was announced, Brexit became the most prominent issue, with immigration falling. These two issues became a near perfect invertial relationship to each other. In my mind the immigration issue was near 100% of the deciding factor for the Brexit vote. Irrespective of all of the high brow legal and economic considerations, immigration is the key.
@@leroyjenkins8707 :: You are happy that a wave of skilled foreign workers is arriving. Workers more skilled than you.
smaller businesses that traded with the EU can no longer afford to trade, big business have picked up the slack which means a more even comparison post brexit. This is the rich getting richer at the cost of many small companies across the UK, some just individuals working from home. Not what i would call a "positive" !
I trade more with the EU now we left....
So overall it would seem that Brexit is turning UK even more towards US style country where executive has increased power and where the wealthy are even better off while most of the people are worse off.
Sliding towards a situation where the country is doing well, but the people are not.
It was already a bit worrisome that 1 in 4 were living in poverty
@Leroy Jenkins lol
@Leroy Jenkins To that idiocy, nope lol
@Leroy Jenkins 😂
@Leroy Jenkins That was the first one, but I'm not surprised something as complex as counting confuses you lol
How could giving control to Boris Johnson be considered even remotely as a positive?
Better then constantly giving the same Austrian Painter salute to a country in Europe we have no say over.
@@The_Phoenix_Saga - Except the UK had a universal veto over any EU decision. Now the UK doesn't.
Every decision the EU had ever made that you're complaining about was explicitly approved by the UK.
@@KingBobXVI and now we don't? GOOD! What France or Spain or whoever do in their own country is none of our business! Likewise what we do in ours is none of theirs.
@@The_Phoenix_Saga you mean a country we never had to salute that also had no say in our own country?
Has Brexit ever worked? It was warned before hand that this was gonna be a shit show. I'm Scottish and looking forward to our independence vote. I never agreed with Brexit, it wasn't a thing here in Scotland.
Scottish lol you vote snp even tho everything they control goes bad all of it by far your answer is give them more control shit you have good drugs sadly highest death rate in the eu
A third of Scotland voted leave
@@danielwebb8402 my maths tells me that's not a majority
@@danielwebb8402 and 2/3rds voted to remain. Welcome to high school maths. 2/3rds is bigger than a third
More Scots voted for Brexit than the SNP at the last election you tool 😂 "wasn't a thing" lol. The idea that Scotland is some remainer stronghold is pure bollocks.
With EU biometric border controls starting soon, trade with the EU is going to go down even farther. That is without the possibility of a trade war.
Brilliant video. Does seem to me though that in order to seem non biased TLDR marked some as successes/ mixed that shouldn’t have been.
1. Many brexiters wanted migration to decrease and they didn’t get that so they would consider that a failure.
2. This is more of a personal opinion but I would say more power accumulating in our executive is not a good thing, especially considering that our government is elected under the unrepresentative first past the post system. Plus any move closer to Europe to ease the economic concerns will result in us being “rule takers, not rule makers” and that’s far from what many wanted brexit to be too.
Also I don't understand how people see the EU as an external entity while its parliament is elected by the citizens of member countries and the other organs are either choosen by the parliament or by the Government of member countries
Maybe the brexiters wanted non-EU migrants, because they are cheaper.
Of course immigration will eventually decrease as a result of Brexit. You can always decrease immigration by making yourself much poorer than your neighbours so people go there instead.
@@XMarkxyz easy, people are dumb and easy manipulated.
As time goes by, I am more and more tempted to move to Australia. (I live in Northern Ireland)
Why not just hop the border into the ROI?
By all means move abroad, but Australia would not be my choice. Very expensive and it’s generally quite a conservative society, although they have elected a new government. The weather is also very extreme and only getting more extreme. Why not go somewhere like Germany where you wouldn’t even need a visa.
Britain is way more socially conservative than Aus man. Your Tories have been in for 12 years and turned your country into economic sewer. Most Australians don't care about politics
@Somewhatskeptical I mean more socially conservative because of the Brexit referendum passing which was basically Britain sniffing its own farts believing they didn't need Europe and how the UK Labour party is basically just the diet conservative party. Culturally Aus doesn't have this kind of conservative air like you were in Britain despite Howard being just as vile as Thatcher etc.
@@tidalink sorry mate, I disagree with that. I’ve got a lot of Australian family and I know it to be a more racially intolerant place. Racism is terrible for minorities, especially Aboriginal Australians. Our government is literally trying to copy Aussie policy on illegal immigration, although luckily they’re failing hard. Also our government might be bad, and I know you’ve just binned Scott Morrison, but Christ the fact he was Prime Minister is terrible. Boris is simply pretending to be socially conservative for popularity. He was completely different when mayor of London. That brings its own challenges though because he has no morals but that’s another story.
As a Polish person living in the UK. I feel as I am not wanted in this country as people don't want "mirgents taking jobs for British people". I would say that openness is negative.
Sorry to hear that.
@@JamesC785 my parents came here to work, to live a better life. People say that migrants take up government funding by not working. It's false. Most come here because we want to work. We don't want government give us money for being lazy. Back in Poland, you don't get payed as much, life is more difficult, more expensive. The Polish politics don't help either. I am embarrassed about the choices my country makes. I appreciate your understanding.
We've had Poles living here and contributing well to the UK economy since 1939. In 1945-46, Poles were the third largest nation in UK, I think. I think Brexit brought out the racism that we didn't need. I'd much rather have Poles who are keen to work, keen to contribute and whose English is better than mine here than many who Brits who voted for Brexit (or some of the Brits in Europe who are now complaining because Brexit happened but who've never tried to fit in in Spain or wherever).
The irony with migration is most Brexiteers will see the positive as a negative. But if you accept that migration is needed for economic growth, you know that migration has to come from somewhere and if it’s not the EU it will come from elsewhere, most likely commonwealth countries like India.
It seems to me that people wary of immigration in the UK have less problems with immigration from the commonwealth than the EU
I think a lot of Brexiteers will see it as a positive. Yes, net migration is about the same, but a higher proportion coming in to do more highly skilled and higher paid jobs is what they wanted.
It's coming from all over the world. India, Nigeria, Hong Kong, South Africa, Jamaica etc. & it will continue to grow as time goes on. I thank the brexiteers for now making it easier for myself & more of my family to get the opportunity to migrate to the UK
@@Psyk60 genuine question: wouldn't skilled workers immigrating be bad in the eyes of brexiteers? They would take higher paying jobs that were previously awarded to the locals.
(I don't know if that's the logic they use, I don't fully understand brexiteers).
I will never forget the Brexiteer who voted leave because to many Pakistanis in his neighborhood, what an absolute winner.
You say Brexit has given back control but it's pretty useless when you want to trade with the biggest markets, like the EU and US because you'll have to follow their rules anyway, if you want to do business with them. The UK is a small fish compared to the big boys, so they'll always be the one making concessions and following the others rules. Even with countries that aren't that big economically (relatively) because they're just desperate to get ANY deals done now e.g. the Australia deal.
England still acts as though the British Empire is a thing, with all of the geopolitical and socioeconomic clout that entails. It still hasn't sunk in that its days as a global superpower that can call its own shots are long past. At best it's a regional power, and the nitwits in Westminster are doing their level best to put an end to even that. It could've been part of one of the big four economic superpowers (the US, China, India, and the EU) but Brexit wrecked that.
It's also useless when it's giving back control to, not the people or anything, but to the selfish rich twats who wanted to consolidate power - which honestly was incredibly predictable
Goods exports to the EU reached £16.4bn in April 2022, their highest level in current prices since the series began in 1997.
The only point I would argue with is on "migration". The increase in "high-qualification" work visas from non European workers means that it is now even more competition for high paid, "high-qualification" roles and the UK workforce is suffering. Brexit has meant there is a shortfall in "low-qualification" work and this is what is now available for UK workers.
are you federalists still squealing like stuck pigs over your thrice thrashing?
For how long do you imagine you keep squealing like stuck pigs, and do you not understand that the more you squeal like stuck pigs, the more you sweeten the schadenfreude of those that thrashed you not just once or twice but three times in a row?- do you really want to do that?
You can squeal like stuck pigs until you are blue in the face but the United Kingdom is not going to re-accede too the European Federation which would not have it even if ait applied to join.
Whether you like the EU or not,
Brexit is insane
Am I the only person who thinks migration is also a negative? I thought leavers voted to reduce all migration.
we cannot do anything about migration due to do the left wanting the borders to remain open and wishing on a star that they will get into power
@@Anthony-xd1lj i think you have the wrong end of the stick. Migration can be controlled if legal routes are open to non-whites; until then the boats will keep coming. This isn't an age old problem, it's one that has ballooned out of control since, you guessed it, the tories have been in power.
@@mattgoodman9830 fuck off the tories had limited immigration under margaret thatcher. when labour got into power they opened up the borders to mass immigration. when blair became PM in 1997 his vision of failed multiculturalism from the third world and from the EU.
that is why YOU could not talk about immigration from the Eu or the third world you were branded a racist. we all saw what happen when gordon brown was in power and when Gillian duffy asked about immigration she was branded a bigoted woman live on mic and it was replayed to him on bbc news i think a couple of hours later he had to go back up to Rochdale and apologise and then he was kicked out of goverment
boris is doing his best to control it but we all know labour want the borders open so they can continue with their multiculturalism
But brexiteers knew what they voted for, so they’re 100% to blame for this mess
That's the point - I don't think that they did.
Well not entirely. When given the option to 'leave the EU' it was very vague and many people just didn't understand the consequences. Let's not forget the BS that was fed to the public from the vote leave campaign. I don't blame the voters in this regard, I blame the lies that influenced the voters.
@@Louis-gh1td Let's not forget the fact the majority of British voters are gullible and easily fooled !
@@Louis-gh1td And yet when all the lies were pointed out in the 3 years after EURef they still voted for the chief liar. Let's face it. The voters didn't care that they were being told lies. They voted for the Brexit narrative not because they thought it best reflected reality, but because it was more compatible with their political identity -- a mix of exceptionalism, rejection of the status quo, nationalism and xenophobia
@@bornach I agree, but the conservatives did have the stronger campaign. Lib Dems were useless, Labour had an awful image and conservatives (at face value) were seen to be the better option. Again I don't blame the lack of intelligence of the average voter, but it is a shame they can't see through it.
BREXIT is doing exactly what BREXIT was going to do. Why are my fellow British nationals shocked?
It's British leftist that are shocked. millions of British voted to leave are happy
Perhaps we should instead be asking, how are the champions of Brexit doing financially these days?
I hope history judges them, but I imagine they'll be too busy counting their money to care.
Well the manager of wetherspoons campaigned for brexit and is now complaining over the lack of eu workers
@@bt3743 Cannot believe this guy is actually alive. He’s the walking dead
@@bt3743 - "and is now complaining over the lack of eu workers"
The fuck did he think would happen?
@@KingBobXVI that’s the thing, he didn’t think. Like most Brexiters.
Imagine being a mug who voted for this. Honestly, get us back in the EU. The vote would be to remain today because many younger adults, like myself, weren’t able to vote in the referendum.
Goods exports to the EU reached £16.4bn in April 2022, their highest level in current prices since the series began in 1997.
Blame the young adults who couldn’t be bothered to vote, and the OAP’s who did vote for it. They don’t care, they’re sitting fat on the pensions.
Not a chance, child. Things are so much better outside the EU, and that's how it's going to stay.
PS : Guess what happens to young voters? They grow up and learn how the world really works ( well, most of them ).
@@mcenglishbros.drivewaytarm8367 - "They grow up and learn how the world really works ( well, most of them )"
Most, yes. Clearly, you're not one of them.
But the problem was the huge English and Welsh vote to leave from the older generation with their minds stuck in the 50's ... the "we've never had it so good" generation who bought the UKIP and Alt-Right Tory line on immigrants, sovereignty and anti-democratic EU policies. That's a hard block of brexit voters to get to change - though i suspect welsh farmers and fishers are having a lot of second thoughts with no CAP money, EU Investment, EU Grants ... just rely on Boris' levelling up bollocks.
Reminds me of the Monty Python sketch "What have the Romans done for us?", which finished "Oh peace!"
The problem with the UK was never the EU, but rather the silly and self-destructive island mentality. If this attitude doesn't change, then nothing else will change substantially either, although may fluctuate marginally between positive and negative outcomes.
It was all those old people yearning for the days of Empire ...
3 ways to measure brexit:
Vs Remainer-geddon (barely passed)
Vs Pre-brexit Britain (failure)
Vs promised brexit (😂😂😂)
for predatory private international corporation that wanted reduced regulations and increased profits regardless of the cost to the environment and public heath. 🤑 🤑 🤑
Migration a win?
* From an economic perspective: The UK's experiencing labor shortages - how's that a win?
* From a "sovereignty" perspective: The promise was to get net migration levels below 100,000 per year, as far as I remember. I don't think it's even close.
Either way, I find it to hard to spin it as a win.
Control a win?
You have to distinguish having formal control from being able to exercise that control in any meaningful way. Take Canada, for example. Technically, it has no obligation to adopt US regulations, and yet it still does exactly that most of the time. Why? Because the Canadian market is too small for the vast majority of manufacturers to make "Canada-specific" products. Where divergence does occur, it often results in higher prices. I think the UK's situation vis-a-vis the EU will be similar.
* If the UK relaxes EU regulations, those "relaxations" are likely to be ignored by manufacturers, who often choose to comply with the most stringent relevant regulations (EU or USA).
* If the UK chooses harsher regulations in some instances, it will effectively erect trade barriers, which is anathema to the Brexiteers' "Global Britain" vision.
So, overall - meh :-/
Given the fact that market fit requirements are happily serviced by a multitude of industries including automotive and telecoms for countries with populations as small as Chile, you are talking total and utter shyte.
There are of course two very obvious examples of UK specific market fit encountered by everyone who lives here on a daily basis, but since you appear to be unaware of them I'll consider it reasonable to assume you are not from the UK and as such none of this is any of your business in any case.
@@mcenglishbros.drivewaytarm8367 - They're not talking about the UK exporting to smaller countries with fewer regulations like Chile, they're talking about exporting to the EU - the second largest market in the world. To export to the EU you'll have to still follow EU regulations, which you now have no say in. Previously, the UK had a universal veto power that could have blocked literally any regulation from being implemented all on its own. Everything the EU passed before Brexit was agreed to by the UK.
Living in the UK doesn't automatically make you an expert in international relations, especially when you miss basic facts of reality like that.
Who could have guessed starting a trade war with your biggest trading partner would be a bad idea!
So very well put.
Love hearing your opinions!
Their can only be one Kyle
When you make decisions based on ideologies and not practicality, it's always doomed.
Totally agree wow the eu is a belief the whole world has the same values which is bonkers the UK has always led the world and can't do that passing to nonsense ideologies
No it isn't: USA independence, Napoleon expansion, Churchill s response to 1940 etc
@@SubsetBand Considering how Napoleon ended up and with how the US has been doing lately I think you might want to reconsider two of your examples.
@@SubsetBand The US declared independence to get out of paying taxes to the UK, Napoleon failed and the British empire collapsed because Britain joined WW2 (not that that's a bad thing ethically, but it was bad in a utilitarian sense from Churchill's perspective).
@@tjenadonn6158 u don't get it do u
It's worth mentioning that migration policies could've been changed while still in the Eu. The Eu does not regulate on a member state's migration policy
EU2004/38 Article 27 says otherwise.
@@mcenglishbros.drivewaytarm8367 that directive is for freedom of movement for eu nationals. It does not tell a country how to run their immigration policy. As long as a member state treats national of all other member states as their own citizens. Every member state can run their own policies for immigration of third nationals
@@gabeg.2848
Here you are exhibiting the one dimensional thinking that plagues cerebrally inept EU indoctrinates such as yourself.
If the Home Office is compelled to expend our limited housing, infrastructure and public service capacity on uncontrolled numbers of EU immigrants we don't need, then it is not possible to accommodate the non-EU immigrants we do need.
So it is irrelevant if or not there is explicit compulsion on non-EU immigration from your Masters in Brussels, because such a compulsion arises naturally the from policy of uncontrolled immigration for EU nationals that we are compelled to adopt.
I am aghast that this needed to be said out loud.
@@mcenglishbros.drivewaytarm8367 well, if that argument sustained itself we wouldn't be facing the aggravating crisis cross numerous industries we are currently dealing with. Hospitality sector, aviation, transportation, logistics, care units. We are under performing deeply in all of those which was sectors vastly filled by eu workers. That just showcases the importance freedom of movement had in the uk. But that's not the use at hand now, is it. The question here is, does the Eu control national immigration policies? The answer is no and you have not proven otherwise. The Eu has established a single market based on fairness and equal treatment, which includes the ability of works to move inside it (otherwise, it wouldn't be a fair arrangement). No country is obliged to enter the Eu and this fundament has existed since its foundation and the uk agreed to it. For instance, Portugal has an arrangement with Brazil which allows for their citizens to move and live in each other countries. That does not mean, however, that Brazilians living in Portugal can move around Europe. That's Portugal leading its own immigration policy.
Hope I've taught you something useful today.
@@gabeg.2848
1. The same crisis across numerous industries being faced across the entire world, you mean?
2. The UK has 6 million EU wage slaves and does not need to be an EU vassal to take as many more as it might require.
3. You have not listened to what has been said to you about your one dimensional thinking on the impact of EU immigration policy and as such I will repeat yet again : If the Home Office is compelled to expend our limited housing, infrastructure and public service capacity on uncontrolled numbers of EU immigrants we don't need, then it is not possible to accommodate the non-EU immigrants we do need. So it is irrelevant if or not there is explicit compulsion on non-EU immigration from your Masters in Brussels, because such a compulsion arises naturally the from policy of uncontrolled immigration for EU nationals that we are compelled to adopt. I was aghast that this needed to be said out loud once...but twice?!
4. The UK evidently doesn't benefit from being part of "YEH BUT COS MUH SINGLE MARKET", because the UK is out of "YEH BUT COS MUH SINGLE MARKET" and UK exports to the EU27 vassals are the highest on record ( Source : ONS UK Trade Bulletin April 2022 ).
5. You may attempt to argue that no country is obliged to be in the EU, but you may not argue that all of the EU27 are in the EU with the consent of the people. The UK wasn't. Southern Bogland isn't.
6. You most certainly have been taught something useful here today, assuming it has sunk in this time around.
7. You lost. Get over it.
Is the alarm sound during the brilliant ad really necessary? Sure it's not very loud but i listen to the news as a background while getting up in the morning and it is terrifying to hear a random alarm out of nowhere
As usual, very informative and well presented, with one glaring exception: Northern Ireland. I can't imagine evaluating how Brexit has gone without considering its impact on the people of Northern Ireland. The Good Friday accords were so important to bringing peace etc. there, and Brexit *so* obviously challenges the stability of those accords. Brexit proponents seemed to offer 'magic' as the only explanation of how this would work well, and no (positive) magic has resulted.
Goods exports to the EU reached £16.4bn in April 2022, their highest level in current prices since the series began in 1997.
@@jrobs1133 that has nothing to do with the fact that issues about brexit in Northern Ireland are yet to be resolved. stop copy and pasting the same statistic to try and back up the collosal failure of brexit
Its because most English brexiteers are either too stupid to know anything about Northern Ireland, or don't care about Northern Ireland. No one in the leave campaign as I recall ever mentioned how big the problems over Northern Ireland would be. In fairness, many Northern Irish Unionists voted for Brexit, which is unbelievably stupid, and frustrates me as a unionist that they still are yet to realise the flaws with it
Control rides roughshod over the devolution settlements and we still need to follow EU rules if we want to trade with the EU - we just have no say in them. Scotland has no desire in this bonfire of worker and environmental protections
Helps if you have a massive say in the regulations
Yes, it is failing, it is a disaster and it was a terrible idea. We (the UK) should rejoin the EU.
What? Being part of a economic and political union with several other modern and wealthy nations was beneficial?! Damn if only we'd known...
Being shackled to a protectionist racket ,who’s power was unchecked by any elections the British people had.
The eu is the only way to have an european power able to compete with China/Usa .
Very Interesting to see what happen to the uk now...
it will fade even further into irrelevancy than before. It beggars believe that so many people act like Britain is some major power with great influence across the world. We're a wretched island that hasn't decided its role in the world since the end of the second world war
IMO the the question of "CONTROL" criteria as a measurement is intellectually hollow. When you are divorcing from a relationship that applies rules based consensus (organization or marriage) , you obviously gain more control over your decisions and have more flexibility of options as a result. There is no other outcome as a result of the divorce.
At times talking about the success of brexit is like talking about the weather and saying 'the rain has gotten considerably warmer, hasn't it!?'
Every frog loves croaking attitudinally from their own pond till a predator moves in. That is when they expect the " predator" to have more options/ alternatives than just themselves. Croak! Creeps! Croaaak
As for the Study and Work visas increasing, could it also have to do with EU country students needing one now?
As a Portuguese passport holder I didn't need a visa while studying there, but I would need one now, most likely.
You wouldn’t be able to afford it!
Fees are now 30-50k pa. - before 8k. And now You would not be eligible to uk student loan scheme- whereas before you would have.
So cost increased by approximately 120k ( 3 year degree). And no chance of loans for the 30k base fee to be paid by all ( including Uk studentsalso has
Ask the Brexiter gangs. They will still see it as a success.
"Our suvrenity" "Shackles of EU" "Singapore type of economy" "390k to nhs" and so on.
They will never admit it was a shitty move. Never.
Absolutely. I find pointing out the increasing - and predicted - problems caused by Brexit still gets the response "you lost, get over it". They are still stuck in 2016 and refuse to address - regardless of how you voted - the problems Brexit is causing RIGHT NOW.
Sadly when I was dumber I voted remain but to believe such a huge change with mostly benefits could be bad long term lol I'm not that stupid of course it's the best thing to happen to the UK in my life by far
Also scrap the NHS i get it has a religous following and isn't really bad it's bad tho for cost and competence as long as it's free for us all I'd rather pay less for more than let people die because of an ideology the USA is poo but it's medical advances change the world it's not one or the other it's never going to be
@@davidevans3223 Uh that's cringe on high level.
This is just sad.
I think Brexit is going exactly how the people who orchestrated it intended.
Goods exports to the EU reached £16.4bn in April 2022, their highest level in current prices since the series began in 1997.
I got a nebula ad featuring you on this video, trippy.
It was never supposed to succeed. It was supposed to be a negotiation tactic but it went horribly wrong..
Only those who voted Leave who didn't actually want the UK to leave the EU would have thought Brexit was a negotiating tactic
Kinda like calling to cancel your mobile phone subscription expecting to be transferred to the customer retentions department where they try to sell you a better deal
Not sure how many Leave voters thought this tactic would work, but I bet it was a very small minority
I'm not convinced Leave voters were really in favour of increased migration from outside of the EU. They seemed to just want it reduced, and I'd be surprised if many would have seen migration positively from certain countries regardless of how well educated they are.
Yeah, TL;DR tries wayyy too hard to give the benefit of the doubt to brexiteers in some cases. Sometimes, the reasons are just racism and xenophobia.
Maybe Scotland (and Wales and Cornwall) can become on the Northern Ireland side of the checks border, and get that higher rate of growth. If the checks border is no problem for NI and the UK, then why not?
Honestly the UK deserves all that its getting
Viewers should see the Jon Danzig video showing the speech in Parliament by Ken Clarke , the ONLY Tory MP not to vote to enact Brexit.
“Is Brexit Failing?” as a question has the same energy as “The tale of House Hoslow is told in blood”, and my takeaway from it is that we as a species _really_ need to stop giving a shit about fishing rights.
Ah an elden ring player.
Excellent analysis
Brexit was Vladimir's opening round in his war on the west. It was a very successful gambit.
United we stand, divided we fall.
The whole strength of europe is in unity. What bad would happen if a fewthousands immigrants from not so rich eu countries come and settle in Europe. Atleast Uk with proud say that it is the gateway of europe for all english speaking countries like us, india, australia, and NZ. and collect billions of euros as almost all major banks and financial activities were controlled by London as it was financial capital of europe.
But now negative growth, least develop nation in g7, dwindling values of pound, and prime ministers are leaving street 10 like England use to eliminate in fifa world Cup group matches itself.
False propaganda by media, trp of media houses and news channels and unnecessary chaos caused by some fringe elements back in summer of 2016 have lead to this point. Today even northern Ireland may take some strong action onto it.
God save UK.
NO NEED TO SAY THAT COVID 19 AND RUSSIAN UKRAINIAN WAR ALSO ADD SALT ON THE WOUND.
Exactly. Single world government needed now
@@danielwebb8402 Over my dead body
About not paying to the EU any more: Is there any data, how much is spent for new or extended government agencies which do, what was previously done by EU agencies? This has to be subtracted from the savings.
We would also have to account for things that we need doing, but haven't done yet, such as border control
If we are "saving" money by leaving things unsafe, it's not a saving!
Part of why exports haven't been hurt so badly is because the EU (and international trade regulators) have been going easier on the UK than they could, as a favor, which is part of why the bridge burning with the protocol is so stupid. As for taking back control, apart from their government's power grab attempts, you need to follow the rules of other countries to make a trade deal with them, that's what the deal is, so the UK will have to meet the EU's standards to trade with them as much as it'd like, without being part of deciding what those rules are, now. It's that or less trade and more poverty, and they've already shown willing to agree to pretty much anything to make a trade deal with other countries.
Thank you 😊
The 4 categories are a bit random. Brexit has had many negative effects, from worker and citizen rights, the environment, the cohesion of the Union, and democracy.
In all fairness, the fall of the UK from democracy to dictatorship has not been a direct result of Brexit, but it was certainly a side-effect, of people using Brexit to implement their own nefarious agenda.
Fun Facts the EU Propaganda Machine won't tell you #17 : The UK has superior employment protections to the EU. For example, the minimum consultation period for collective redundancy in the UK is 6 weeks, in the EU it is only 4.
@@mcenglishbros.drivewaytarm8367 - And? The EU wasn't preventing you from having a higher minimum for yourself.
And that's one example, it doesn't imply a trend of UK protections being better across the board.
@@KingBobXVI
*_"And? The EU wasn't preventing you from having a higher minimum for yourself"_*
Then you concede that the protector of our rights as employees came from Her Majesty's Government, not from your Masters in Brussels.
So how did that red pill taste? Good, was it?
are you federalists still squealing like stuck pigs over your thrice thrashing?
What do you imagine squealing like stuck pigs will achieve?
@@mcenglishbros.drivewaytarm8367 How come then that when P&O fired their British sailors, they kept their EU ones?
Must have been because of those excellent worker protections the UK government provides.
Would immigration of high skilled workers been restricted by the EU ? I believe it is not a Brexit benefit as work visas could have been issued anyhow .
such a credit to the channel for making a balanced article, it builds my faith in this channel over many other providers
I love how we no longer talk about Brexit as a major success but how bad it is. Scraping the barral for the pluses.
This channel has always been anti brexit
is water wet?
not if frozen.
It's not just that we've lost access to the single market and ease of trade with Europe, we've lost the trust and confidence of other countries. The UK is seen as untrustworthy and self sabotaging and it makes everyone from fruit pickers right up to presidents wary of doing business with the UK
That's the rhetoric of main stream media! Did the EU try to break the NI protocol within the first month of it being operated...answer yes. Did they follow there protocol in informing the UK and Ireland and allowing discussion through the parties before disagreeing and then triggering article 16...answer no on all counts. Does this mean legally has the EU broke the rules and is untrustworthy...absolutely. By the way triggering article 16 correctly would be legal for one side to do under the protocol...so the UK isn't untrustworthy we are following the rules. If the EU takes us to court they will probably loses as they did before.
I think you are missing the most fundamental measure here. What has been the impact on ordinary peoples lives? This ranges from the big lake nearly destroying my business to the small but irritating such as the re-introduction of mobile phone roaming charges across Europe. I would love to see some measure of this as I think this would paint a very black picture of the idiocy of Brexit
What was the background laughing in the video interview about? How was that even on mic?
This video gives us a very technocratic view of Brexit insofar as high-level metrics are concerned. What it’s not looking at are the impacts on our citizens, our rights, our country’s reputation, the division it has caused, impacts on costs to business and individuals etc. Perhaps a video is needed on these issues, maybe using 2016 as a baseline with comparisons with our EU neighbours.
Why has it caused division?
Surely 90% of those that voted remain accepted the democratic vote. As their parents taught them losers consent and therefore they were mature enough to play with others. That normally happens age 5-7, it is why board games are nearly all age 8+.
And a tiny minority couldn't mentally cope that the majority didn't agree with them. But they were ignored. Not given 50% coverage for the next 5 years.
Pfft, I'm sorry, what makes you think BoJo and his clack give a single wet shit about "rights, reputation and the citizenry?" If the citizenry wants to be treated like shit, and most importantly by those from within their own borders, then that citizenry will get exactly what it wants. Mission accomplished. Now they have no f&$king right to complain...about essentially having no rights.
@@danielwebb8402 Apart from the very child-like response you’ve given, you have clearly missed the many polls on the topic of Brexit, conducted by professional polling organisations, which demonstrate that substantial divisions on this are still very evident - even to the point that many leave voters regret their vote. Add to this the substantial divisions in Northern Ireland and Scotland, Brexit has not been some kind of unifying force that has brought our citizens together. So, whilst you’ve been clearly burying your head in the pages of the Daily Fail and Express, many of us haven’t.
@Somewhatskeptical
Agree is a common theme (Trump too). Of politics moving from left/ right being defined economically predominantly to now socially liberal/ conservative
@Somewhatskeptical
All true.
In the UK what helps the Conservatives most in 2019 was there were enough "socially liberal but not willing to risk this version of left economics"
Shoutout to all the people who called me a part of “Project Fear” when I tried to convince them that Brexit was actually a really bad idea.
We tried to warn you, but you didn’t want to listen. Congratulations, you made your bed now you get to sleep in it. Enjoy.
Unfortunately, we have to share the bed with them.
And now we are being blamed by the Brexiters for why the Brexit they implemented and championed after the EURef wasn't the softer less damaging kind they had advertised to voters before the EURef. Daniel Hannan, David Davis, and Brexit columnists all penning articles lay blame on Remainers for making soft-Brexit impossible
I for one watched the advertisement - and yelled just when Jack said "ah this is a big one, my opinion is" and cuts to advert. Well played.
I have a small engineering company, quite specialised but with great flexibility. We have seen sales into the EU collapse overnight as the added costs introduced by the, quite frankly, non deal signed by Johnson to implement this hard brexit. When I approached the UK government to ask if there was a solution they directed me to open a company within the EU. This is the level of detachment and lack of common sense that allowed Johnson and his kleptocricy to force through what even his most deranged minister, Rees Mogg, calls an act of self harm.
The upshot of all this is that we have had to begin the winding down of the company and the skills we have will now be lost as well as the tax income and employment implications.
I didn't vote to leave the EU, nor did I vote for Johnson's dire government given the man's long history of duplicity, dishonesty and betrayal. I did try to explain why I believed brexit would turn into the catastrophe it has for small and medium businesses but supporters were rabid in their support and would hear nothing of it. Nowadays, anecdotally speaking, the only people I can find who still regard brexit as any form of success are pensioners, not economically active and poorly educated relying on right wing newspapers and TV channels like GBTV for their information sources.
*Is Brexit Failing?* YES, YES, YES and YES
You mean you wish and will believe anything you want to be true even if your eye's say you're stupid
Brexit was conceived and paid for by the very wealthy, so for them it is a resounding success.
Hi! are you going to restock your country pin badges any time soon? I bought the last UK badge a few weeks ago and it fell off my bag, and I'd love to get a new one. :)
Thank you