@@blaketindle4703Thank you!!!!! He was paid hundreds of millions of dollars. He better give em everything he got lol. People so weak we're surprised when people actually play hard lol.
Jimmy hasn't been consistent over the last couple of years. In the regular season, he's been pretty much pedestrian. Every now and then, he'll have a great game, but then for the most, I'm like, "Where's Jimmy?" He's played a big role in why the Heat have been in the play-in, like they've got to fight for their lives to get in the playoffs, when they should be somewhere within the 4th and 6th spots. Even this year, what's he averaging? 18? Would Riley want to pay max extension to a superstar-feeling player who only averages 18 ppg? It's time for the Heat and Jimmy to move on. Jimmy's sick of the lack of help and the Heat are not going to win a ship with Jimmy as their main guy either.
Why is it when a player demands a trade, media personalities label a guy "Problematic" "Team killer" "Headache" but when a team trades a guy they all go COMPLETELY silent or say: "It's just business"🤔🤔
@@PeterWilson-c3ubecause we have a bunch of simps in this country for the owning class. Look at how many people simp over Elon Musk. They think just because he’s rich he’s a genius who should be worshipped.
@@PeterWilson-c3u I think the issue is that being traded is part of the game. There are rules in place that govern how that action takes place. There are no rules in place to facilitate a player just wanting out. Letting a player go while under contract is more so a “favor” by the organization, if they choose to do so. The players association should fight for a solution to govern how a player is handled when they simply want out.
And this ladies and gentlemen is how you run a professional sports franchise. You let the player and the agent know who's in charge. Riley knows how restrictive the new CBA is. Riley also knows not one of the teams Butler mentioned will trade for him due to age and contractual demands. Butler's agent also knows without a trade Jimmy isn't sniffing a max contract. He's too old (35 and will be 36 prior to the start of next season), temperamental and injury-prone. Since Riley isn't going to trade Jimmy, the longest he could sign for due to the over-38 rule is 2 years. That's why Jimmy wanted the Heat to extend him prior to the start of the season so he could lock in that 4th year. He'll be lucky to get the Klay Thompson deal next summer.
The thing is we wouldn't be a play in if Jimmy Butler actually played in the regular season. Studies have shown that load management does not work and without old school proper conditioning injuries are gonna happen often.
Because that's his job...besides, Rob G is not the main character. He may also prefer to be off screen in most situations. Yall forget this is a RADIO show anyway.
5:12 Rob got so into the conversation and immediately went quiet when Kelvin said something positive about Kobe. This has always been the Kobe hate show. Chris and Rob were never bold enough to outright say it.
Wrong. Contracts are meant to be fair on both sides regardless of clout once agreed upon. If any of the sides gave in to the demands of the other, it is their prerogative and they need to reconstruct the agreement accordingly. None of the sides are obligated to oblige or demand.
It's easy, if he wants to be paid go to teams with cap space and make them better. Nothing wrong with getting paid but if you're going to a contender then your money will be limited as the team would want to keep it's best players
This situation proves how delusional the Miami Heat media ecosystem is.. Because listen to how they talk about Jimmy vs. how they talked about Dame EDIT Rob Parker the only one that kept it 100 the entire time. The rest of that media was DELUSIONAL
Jimmy was a great player( not a superstar) and he got paid more than enough for it . He is now a good player . who ( like many of todays NBA good players) can`t stay on the court for more than 2 games in a row? You don`t get paid for what you did yesterday or what you believe the team owes you? When I say paid I mean revisiting his Max contract as his Agent requested? Looks like we are in for Drama between Riley and Butler . Pat has to say that he is not going to trade him at the moment , but as the deadline approaches of course they will trade him . What will be interesting to see is how creative Butler will become at inventing excuses not to suit up ?. Sitting out could also backfire on Jimmy if the Heat show that they are basically just as good with or without Butler.... which I believe is the case . 43-46 win team going nowhere after the season either way .
A lot of those playoff games that the Heat won Jimmy didn’t play that well. Obviously Jimmy deserves his flowers but Spo coached probably two of the worst teams to ever make it to the NBA finals. That’s great coaching.
What Rob talking about he never say anything when teams just trade players without hesitation Jimmy deserves to leave he did all he could for that team
Rob…. You’re right this time! Jimmy’s an aging star, every player can’t maintain the same level of play as other aging stars … so to Jimmy and his agent “STOP IT!!!”
hey now~ looks like jimmy is not trying to leave. he's trying to stay and get paid more. to be fair to him, Pat couldnt get him a proper secondary star. Bam isnt this secondary scoring star so that has been the problem
I’m on Pat’s side but Jimmy has built equity on that team by leading two teams to the Finals. Yes, he lost but he lost to two generational and all-time great players. If not for the apron, Pat would have traded him. Pat is looking out for the team, not Jimmy, again, I’m with Pat. This is business. But, Miami already does not have top free agents sign there because of Pat, this won’t help.
He has watched players like Lebron & James Harden do these things for a decade now so him and his agent think this is how you negotiate with the teams nowadays!! Pat is not having it! Jimmy Butler should've asked James Miami was the only team he couldn't control!! And Kevin fyi when he said he would've probably done things different with Lebron he didn't mean 👄 in 🐴! Or let James and Rich Paul run the team he meant he would've talked about it in the media! He said that and made that point clear speak the truth!
Jimmy and bam took 2 mid teams to the finals. I would say he did a lot.
Finish it!
Should be going all in now with Herro coming into form…He’s the only consistent one
Last time I checked, we don’t hang banners for almost championships
I'm a super weak eastern conference.
@@DreSnake8468yall don’t say that when it comes to LeBron (6) finals losses…
Jimmy definitely put his blood sweat and tears there regardless if he won a chip or not
And they’ve paid him well. They don’t owe him anything else.
He's a mercenary officially
@@blaketindle4703Thank you!!!!! He was paid hundreds of millions of dollars. He better give em everything he got lol. People so weak we're surprised when people actually play hard lol.
@@blaketindle4703 didn’t say they did was just referring to how he played there
Jimmy hasn't been consistent over the last couple of years. In the regular season, he's been pretty much pedestrian. Every now and then, he'll have a great game, but then for the most, I'm like, "Where's Jimmy?" He's played a big role in why the Heat have been in the play-in, like they've got to fight for their lives to get in the playoffs, when they should be somewhere within the 4th and 6th spots. Even this year, what's he averaging? 18? Would Riley want to pay max extension to a superstar-feeling player who only averages 18 ppg? It's time for the Heat and Jimmy to move on. Jimmy's sick of the lack of help and the Heat are not going to win a ship with Jimmy as their main guy either.
If Lebron or DWade couldn’t strong arm Riley, Jimmy stands no chance.
"This is not the Lakers. We are not playing no media games."
Exactly. Riley isn't going for this.
rob jimmy never said he wanted to force his way out stop lying
Why is it when a player demands a trade, media personalities label a guy "Problematic" "Team killer" "Headache" but when a team trades a guy they all go COMPLETELY silent or say: "It's just business"🤔🤔
@PeterWilson-c3u cause they are hyprocates it's really that simple, tax cuts for the rich everyone else suffer
@@PeterWilson-c3ubecause we have a bunch of simps in this country for the owning class. Look at how many people simp over Elon Musk. They think just because he’s rich he’s a genius who should be worshipped.
He hasn’t played in like 5 games with a “stomach virus” lol they already ruled him out next game too.
@@PeterWilson-c3u I think the issue is that being traded is part of the game. There are rules in place that govern how that action takes place. There are no rules in place to facilitate a player just wanting out. Letting a player go while under contract is more so a “favor” by the organization, if they choose to do so. The players association should fight for a solution to govern how a player is handled when they simply want out.
He has gotten a lot of credit for Finals appearances but no wins.
Exactly but Bron haters discredit Bron because he lost more final appearances than won. Make it make sense. 😂
Because those teams had no business in the Finals is why. When you overachieve, you get love
And this ladies and gentlemen is how you run a professional sports franchise. You let the player and the agent know who's in charge. Riley knows how restrictive the new CBA is. Riley also knows not one of the teams Butler mentioned will trade for him due to age and contractual demands.
Butler's agent also knows without a trade Jimmy isn't sniffing a max contract. He's too old (35 and will be 36 prior to the start of next season), temperamental and injury-prone. Since Riley isn't going to trade Jimmy, the longest he could sign for due to the over-38 rule is 2 years. That's why Jimmy wanted the Heat to extend him prior to the start of the season so he could lock in that 4th year. He'll be lucky to get the Klay Thompson deal next summer.
Pat Riley is doing his job, but the rumor is up and it's up for a reason.
Exactly. I'm a Pat guy but I'm sure the market for Jimmy was not that great so now he wants to save face.
PR is pissed with Jimmy but he is giving Jimmy this season to prove himself...if Mia is still a play-in team then he will be gone for sure
The thing is we wouldn't be a play in if Jimmy Butler actually played in the regular season. Studies have shown that load management does not work and without old school proper conditioning injuries are gonna happen often.
That's Pat Riley for U!!! I trust his wisdom!!!
Why? What have they won since Lebron left?
Rob needs Rob G for everything! Why not have him sit with them? I guess Rob thinks its cooler having him off screen.
Did you ever stop to think maybe just maybe rob G DOESNT want to be on camera when rob asked him ? You don’t know so you should keep quiet
@flightkidd123 Keep quiet in the comment section?
@@Gtails-1005 don’t hurt yourself thinking too hard now it’s ok buddy
Because that's his job...besides, Rob G is not the main character. He may also prefer to be off screen in most situations.
Yall forget this is a RADIO show anyway.
ROB COUNTING MONEY AT 14:07 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂 jimmy and his agent do not mess with shams that's been a fact they will never cosign anything he says
first time ive ever agreed with rob . they owe him nothing !!!!!!
Why, as fans, do we root for the owner and not the player?
Is this the same Rob that got upset for Lebron playing out his contract and going “wherever the hell he wanted to go”?
5:12 Rob got so into the conversation and immediately went quiet when Kelvin said something positive about Kobe. This has always been the Kobe hate show. Chris and Rob were never bold enough to outright say it.
That's because kobe was overrated. 44%career fg%. He was inefficient.
Wrong. Contracts are meant to be fair on both sides regardless of clout once agreed upon. If any of the sides gave in to the demands of the other, it is their prerogative and they need to reconstruct the agreement accordingly. None of the sides are obligated to oblige or demand.
Sports is about winning, if didn't win then Pat doesn't owe him a damn thing.
If the Heat don’t want him anymore that’s fine Jimmy has the right to say just trade me. If they don’t then fine he will just leave in free agency
They do want him it's just Pat Riley isn't going to kiss anyones you know what LeBron leaving going back to Cleveland is a good example.
@ and Pat regrets that. He could of had Lebron for 10 more years if he let him have his way
@@alphadog3586Hmm. How many championships since then?
It's easy, if he wants to be paid go to teams with cap space and make them better. Nothing wrong with getting paid but if you're going to a contender then your money will be limited as the team would want to keep it's best players
This situation proves how delusional the Miami Heat media ecosystem is..
Because listen to how they talk about Jimmy vs. how they talked about Dame
EDIT
Rob Parker the only one that kept it 100 the entire time. The rest of that media was DELUSIONAL
Rob is Mr. Get off my lawn 😂 but I enjoy his passion for sports
Okay that Kendrick Lamar squabble when talking about it Jimmy Butler
So quick to throw the pistons under the bus, but clearly you haven't been paying attention.
Agreed. Detroit actually improved this season in which that blew my wig back popz😳
Might be time for the Heat to try a new approach though…
I don’t believe Riley… it’s called art of the deal
Don't follow that advice, cuz bankruptcy will follow
@ I guarantee you have no clue what you’re saying
I'm stealing one two three move on at work going forward 😂😂
Butler thought he can pull a LeFlop lol!!
He called him Ephraim hahahahahha
Jimmy was a great player( not a superstar) and he got paid more than enough for it . He is now a good player . who ( like many of todays NBA good players) can`t stay on the court for more than 2 games in a row? You don`t get paid for what you did yesterday or what you believe the team owes you? When I say paid I mean revisiting his Max contract as his Agent requested? Looks like we are in for Drama between Riley and Butler . Pat has to say that he is not going to trade him at the moment , but as the deadline approaches of course they will trade him . What will be interesting to see is how creative Butler will become at inventing excuses not to suit up ?. Sitting out could also backfire on Jimmy if the Heat show that they are basically just as good with or without Butler.... which I believe is the case . 43-46 win team going nowhere after the season either way .
That’s why if a contending team should pull the trigger now dukes😊
You cant copare this situation to any of those other teams
no way they are giving Erik credit for getting to the finals & making it seem like Jimmy didn’t make miami a contender with those elite playoff runs
They both deserve credit
A lot of those playoff games that the Heat won Jimmy didn’t play that well. Obviously Jimmy deserves his flowers but Spo coached probably two of the worst teams to ever make it to the NBA finals. That’s great coaching.
@@FogJWrestlingNow you see why RILES hand picked SPO🤷🏿
Rob continues to perpetuate the lie about LeBron wanting Spo fired. DWade, Spo & Pat each said that did not happen.
We want volunteers not hostages- Mike Tomlin
If Jimmy wants to go , let him go
What Rob talking about he never say anything when teams just trade players without hesitation Jimmy deserves to leave he did all he could for that team
Rob…. You’re right this time! Jimmy’s an aging star, every player can’t maintain the same level of play as other aging stars … so to Jimmy and his agent “STOP IT!!!”
That’s why Pat should trade Jimmy and see what he can get in return
@ they’ll end up trading him… but only if the deal is right ..
@@i__skins__i OK👍🏿
hey now~ looks like jimmy is not trying to leave. he's trying to stay and get paid more. to be fair to him, Pat couldnt get him a proper secondary star. Bam isnt this secondary scoring star so that has been the problem
That’s why you make moves paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa😮
I’m on Pat’s side but Jimmy has built equity on that team by leading two teams to the Finals. Yes, he lost but he lost to two generational and all-time great players.
If not for the apron, Pat would have traded him. Pat is looking out for the team, not Jimmy, again, I’m with Pat. This is business. But, Miami already does not have top free agents sign there because of Pat, this won’t help.
That’s why you don’t change your stance unless it’s absolutely necessary
He has watched players like Lebron & James Harden do these things for a decade now so him and his agent think this is how you negotiate with the teams nowadays!! Pat is not having it! Jimmy Butler should've asked James Miami was the only team he couldn't control!! And Kevin fyi when he said he would've probably done things different with Lebron he didn't mean 👄 in 🐴! Or let James and Rich Paul run the team he meant he would've talked about it in the media! He said that and made that point clear speak the truth!
Only a champion has sweet equity
You can talk down on LeBron all you want but he has always played out his contracts
Someone check on shams and tell him stop the 🧢🧢🧢
correct
Jimmy butler demanding a trade? Lol cmon man...finish ur contract
I'm trying to think what the Miami talk was around Dame though.. 🤔
@@inibigfoot that trade didn't include Jimmy Portland wanted Herro and Miami turned that down.
Trade dude. Get young if possible sah😮
Rob Parker
Trust and believe Miami regret letting LeBron Go
They didn't allow LBJ to leave. L. James snuck out of town and left Miami in a surprise move. Facts.
Heat required hard work, le whine not bout that life
@@brotherless
Is that ah fact?
you mean the pat riley who stole the slogan three peat from byron scott and put a patent on it foh
Yall old guys md cause they never mad this much money in the nb
Jimmy carried the garbage team he deserves to go wherever he wants to go
He's totally overrated anyway
I’ve said the same thing for years. JB isn’t even a starter on a good team in my opinion. He’s only looks good on bad teams.
I never understood why people thinks JB is anything special. He’s overrated in my opinion….
Nah he ain't overrated Butler is a good player he just has a habit of being inconsistent but he's had moments when he showed up and did his thing.
The best playoff performer since 2020 and it isn't even close