Thank you so much for your time and expertise, it was a privilege to watch this and grateful to you for sharing all of your tried and true experience with us, it is grand! Thank you!!!
This video's so awesome at actually walking through what's involved in the set up & making this system function, as well as really showing the results & dispelling the myths around it Thanks so much for giving this talk Tony Lovell & thanks Savory Institute for uploading it
What you were saying on spaces and ladders really reminded me of Chapter 11 of the Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu Thirty spokes share the wheel's hub; It is the center hole that makes it useful. Shape clay into a vessel; It is the space within that makes it useful. Cut doors and windows into walls; It is the space within that makes the room. Therefore benefit comes form what is there; Usefulness from what is not there.
I visited the place, they just came out of a 6 year drought and are now starting to get livestock back. Listen to the recent podcast with tony, search tony lovell podcast. Sadly tony is not with us anymore.
I was told by them that at the start of, I think it was 2018, they only had 200 odd steers left out of all properties they own ..... and those steers were booked to be destocked as well......It seems the drought was a bit too harsh for the savory methods & stopped all progress.
Once the drought ends and it starts recieving good rain, the country will bounce back to life again and be capable of carrying good numbers of livestock again. The only question is : Will this company be financially able to carry on after it rains ??
I know this is by now considered an old video, but I still want to make a few observations. First I hope this program is still going. Either through the Savory institute or by multiple people doing it on a smaller scale. I've seen video's of American farmers using a similar system on a much much smaller scale to run a Profitable farm while improving the land. I encourage folks to put regenerative farming into their youtube search engine. I hope that will become more common and hopefully make it easier and more affordable for consumers to buy meat that's raised that way. Second I hope that buy now they have a few LGD's in with them cattle,although for all I know the camels may be mean enough to run off the Predators. My knowledge of Camels tends to be very very small/limited. 3- I'm glad he mentioned Profit, because without Profit it just becomes an idealistic luxury that will soon become something most potential investors can't afford. And hopefully by Profit he means the cattle is being used for food at the correct time and is affordable.And lastly I hope people start putting alot of these type video's up on Rumble as well as youtube. In my opinion the more platforms this type stuff is available on the better.
Did this survive the drought up to 2020 where are they at now, how many stock are on the property. Tony can you respond to this. A lot of money was put into this project. Is it still operating. Great if it is
How did this go during the 2015 - 2018 years ?....... any updates on it. Our land has had 18 month periods of little to no rain during the last 7 years. One rainguage only recorded 81mm in 9 different falls mm from oct 2017 - oct 2018 & thats on top of 6 years of bad drought. ........ one area of this property had a motorbike track in the sand of a shallow gully that gets its water from a hard, sheet rock ridge when it rains. The bike track was in the sand from oct 2017 - November 2018. ( that was on top of 6 years of no more than 180-250 mm of rain/year with 8-10 months of total dry. ) The grazed grass simply doesn't recover during this severe of a drought. It dies.....
and moving 5000 cows starts at 21:17 if you want a spot to test watch & see if the video is going to interest you - or want to see if it's actually practical to do (it is)
I'm interested to see that Buffel grass, an African species is dominant in this landscape. It is not very nutritious, contains high amounts of oxalates and little calcium digestibility. They can cause secondary hyperparathyroidism, also called Buffel Head or big head.
Grew up on dairy farm and we grazed cows in the spring through fall, but it's not a very efficient way of dairying. 40 cows will go though 10 acres of alfalfa in a few days, and pick around after that, but have to be moved after two weeks to a new field. They trample on more than they eat. Plus flies and sun and heat are huge problems, the cows will head home and crowd under shelter just to get out of sun. If left in fields in thunderstorms, always a chance of lightening strike, if they crowd under a tree, it will kill the lot of them. Cows are much happier eating alfalfa cut fresh each day, allowed to ferment overnight, so a nice hot meal in the morning, supplemented with corn silage, where they can lie down in free stall barns during the day. They do like to get out to a field at night to sleep out of doors, but just grazing diary cows as the only feed is not at all efficient and you would need 2 and 1/2 acres per animal to sustain that, and they won't graze where they left manure for a couple years, plus the pastures have to be mowed to keep the weeds down as the cows can't hoe weeds. As for grass fed beef, it is of a lower quality for consumption. Cattle fed some corn in final months before slaughter -- the meat tastes significantly better and is more tender as well. Land costing $8000 per acre or more could hardly be economical if 2 and 1/2 acre per animal are needed for grazing, plus you need additional acres for forage and grain requirements for winter months. Bloating in late fall is another drawback.
I think you might be surprised at what is possible dairying with Holistic Management and Holistic Planned Grazing. Here's a case study from Dharma Lea Dairy in upstate New York: savory.global/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Less-Stress-More-Grass-by-Managing-Holistically.pdf
@@SavoryInstitute Can't access that link for some browser reason. Maybe they have lots of cheap grazing land but they would still need to harvest forage for winter; I doubt they can graze more than six months a year. Maybe a small dairy, is it? What I wrote is from real experience. It's not ideological. Cattle grazed w/o any other forage or grain are not the happiest animals, and you need vast acreage for a small number of animals. Flies are a huge problem, very unpleasant for animals bordering on animal cruelty. Corn silage is a staple for dairy cows, and alfalfa hay. Plus they need corn grain for milk production, unless you're just playing hobby farm. Cows actually prefer chopped alfalfa steaming hot, left to ferment overnight.
@@rockyfjord3753 Here's a different link that might work better: www.3lm.network/have-less-stress-grow-more-grass-with-a-holistic-approach And here's a synopsis of the results, all a result of their management: • A 120% increase in the number of grazing days per year, from 76 days to 167 days per year, which translates into an annual savings of $27,300. • A drop in feed cost from 60% to 48% of the total cost of production. • Improved profitability with a gross margin of 41%. • Increased carrying capacity of the land, with a 68% increase in grass harvested by cattle on pasture. • A significant improvement in livestock health, with a key indicator - mastitis - dropping from 73% to 3% within the herd. • Improved milk quality, with a 10% increase in total milk solids. • Improved quality of life for the entire family, including more time to spend together, more wildlife to enjoy, a sense of community, and a lot less stress. • Improved financial position, enabling the family to purchase an additional farm that would triple the size of their land, provide a new family home, and allow expansion of the herd and milking parlor.
@@SavoryInstitute Yes, I went to site and you've copied the same here, was unable to bring up the Dharma farm link. What's absent is the herd size and so on. From the look of the barn and that antique silo, I can see that this today would qualify as a hobby farm. Even grazing 6 months would require a 20x60 silo for corn silage during winter months and thousands of bales of alfalfa hay for winter months. So this is not in any way representative of a viable dairy farm in the contemporary sense. Cows do not like mature grasses, but prefer legumes, particularly alfalfa. It's a nice narrative for 'holistic' adherents, and of course it's always nice to have hundreds of acres of pasture for a limited herd to roam around on, for young cattle spring to fall. Grazing must be halted as soon as frost occurs or you will lose animals from bloat, especially for certain kinds of clover. As for modern dairies, this idea is going nowhere. Well anyhow.
More than delighted to hear about this beautiful land being used for animals instead of sugar and wheat. Beautiful animals. No Glyphosate. 😏✨✨
Fantastic video, I look forward to seeing more!
Thank you so much for your time and expertise, it was a privilege to watch this and grateful to you for sharing all of your tried and true experience with us, it is grand! Thank you!!!
This video's so awesome at actually walking through what's involved in the set up & making this system function, as well as really showing the results & dispelling the myths around it
Thanks so much for giving this talk Tony Lovell & thanks Savory Institute for uploading it
Impressive project and results!
Superb, thank-you.
Ps When I shared this to 'my' fb page, I encouraged ppl to watch from about 42minutes on. I hope they watch the rest, too!
Glad someone asked him to speak more slowly- when he descended into Australian "dialect", it was hard for us non- Australinas to understand!
You can also run the playback speed at .75. I do the opposite when the person is taking forever to make a point.
Watyatalkinboutmate?
That was powerful! Thank you.
What you were saying on spaces and ladders really reminded me of Chapter 11 of the Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu
Thirty spokes share the wheel's hub;
It is the center hole that makes it useful.
Shape clay into a vessel;
It is the space within that makes it useful.
Cut doors and windows into walls;
It is the space within that makes the room.
Therefore benefit comes form what is there;
Usefulness from what is not there.
Is there updates on this project? would love to hear how they're doing.
I visited the place, they just came out of a 6 year drought and are now starting to get livestock back. Listen to the recent podcast with tony, search tony lovell podcast. Sadly tony is not with us anymore.
This is two years old, any news on how the place is doing now?
Not really...
I was told by them that at the start of, I think it was 2018, they only had 200 odd steers left out of all properties they own ..... and those steers were booked to be destocked as well......It seems the drought was a bit too harsh for the savory methods & stopped all progress.
@@adrianjos04 I was afraid of something like that. I hope it can succeed somehow.
Once the drought ends and it starts recieving good rain, the country will bounce back to life again and be capable of carrying good numbers of livestock again.
The only question is :
Will this company be financially able to carry on after it rains ??
@@adrianjos04 I hope they get back up and try again. Get enough of a foothold to survive the next drought.
I know this is by now considered an old video, but I still want to make a few observations. First I hope this program is still going. Either through the Savory institute or by multiple people doing it on a smaller scale. I've seen video's of American farmers using a similar system on a much much smaller scale to run a Profitable farm while improving the land. I encourage folks to put regenerative farming into their youtube search engine. I hope that will become more common and hopefully make it easier and more affordable for consumers to buy meat that's raised that way. Second I hope that buy now they have a few LGD's in with them cattle,although for all I know the camels may be mean enough to run off the Predators. My knowledge of Camels tends to be very very small/limited. 3- I'm glad he mentioned Profit, because without Profit it just becomes an idealistic luxury that will soon become something most potential investors can't afford. And hopefully by Profit he means the cattle is being used for food at the correct time and is affordable.And lastly I hope people start putting alot of these type video's up on Rumble as well as youtube. In my opinion the more platforms this type stuff is available on the better.
May Tony rest in peace.
brilliant
Did this survive the drought up to 2020 where are they at now, how many stock are on the property. Tony can you respond to this. A lot of money was put into this project. Is it still operating. Great if it is
How did this go during the 2015 - 2018 years ?....... any updates on it. Our land has had 18 month periods of little to no rain during the last 7 years. One rainguage only recorded 81mm in 9 different falls mm from oct 2017 - oct 2018 & thats on top of 6 years of bad drought. ........ one area of this property had a motorbike track in the sand of a shallow gully that gets its water from a hard, sheet rock ridge when it rains. The bike track was in the sand from oct 2017 - November 2018. ( that was on top of 6 years of no more than 180-250 mm of rain/year with 8-10 months of total dry. )
The grazed grass simply doesn't recover during this severe of a drought. It dies.....
When does the relevant information start in the video?
AdstarAPAD Ok People the information starts at the 10:40 mark
and moving 5000 cows starts at 21:17 if you want a spot to test watch & see if the video is going to interest you - or want to see if it's actually practical to do (it is)
I'm interested to see that Buffel grass, an African species is dominant in this landscape. It is not very nutritious, contains high amounts of oxalates and little calcium digestibility. They can cause secondary hyperparathyroidism, also called Buffel Head or big head.
I want to get into ranching but I don't have 2 million to buy a small ranch...
Check out Greg Judy on leasing land to get started.
Grew up on dairy farm and we grazed cows in the spring through fall, but it's not a very efficient way
of dairying. 40 cows will go though 10 acres of alfalfa in a few days, and pick around after that, but
have to be moved after two weeks to a new field. They trample on more than they eat. Plus flies and
sun and heat are huge problems, the cows will head home and crowd under shelter just to get out of
sun. If left in fields in thunderstorms, always a chance of lightening strike, if they crowd under a tree,
it will kill the lot of them. Cows are much happier eating alfalfa cut fresh each day, allowed to ferment
overnight, so a nice hot meal in the morning, supplemented with corn silage, where they can lie down
in free stall barns during the day. They do like to get out to a field at night to sleep out of doors, but
just grazing diary cows as the only feed is not at all efficient and you would need 2 and 1/2 acres per
animal to sustain that, and they won't graze where they left manure for a couple years, plus the pastures
have to be mowed to keep the weeds down as the cows can't hoe weeds. As for grass fed beef, it is
of a lower quality for consumption. Cattle fed some corn in final months before slaughter -- the meat
tastes significantly better and is more tender as well. Land costing $8000 per acre or more could
hardly be economical if 2 and 1/2 acre per animal are needed for grazing, plus you need additional
acres for forage and grain requirements for winter months. Bloating in late fall is another drawback.
I think you might be surprised at what is possible dairying with Holistic Management and Holistic Planned Grazing. Here's a case study from Dharma Lea Dairy in upstate New York: savory.global/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Less-Stress-More-Grass-by-Managing-Holistically.pdf
@@SavoryInstitute Can't access that link
for some browser reason. Maybe they have lots of cheap grazing land but they would still need to harvest forage for winter; I doubt they can graze more than six months a year. Maybe a small dairy, is it? What I wrote is from real experience. It's not ideological. Cattle grazed w/o any other
forage or grain are not the happiest animals, and you need vast acreage for
a small number of animals. Flies are a
huge problem, very unpleasant for animals
bordering on animal cruelty. Corn silage is
a staple for dairy cows, and alfalfa hay.
Plus they need corn grain for milk production, unless you're just playing hobby
farm. Cows actually prefer chopped alfalfa
steaming hot, left to ferment overnight.
Calling something 'Holistic' belies some
ideological cant on things. Holistic is an idealism, not existential.
@@rockyfjord3753 Here's a different link that might work better: www.3lm.network/have-less-stress-grow-more-grass-with-a-holistic-approach
And here's a synopsis of the results, all a result of their management:
• A 120% increase in the number of grazing days per year, from 76 days to 167 days per year, which translates into an annual savings of $27,300.
• A drop in feed cost from 60% to 48% of the total cost of production.
• Improved profitability with a gross margin of 41%.
• Increased carrying capacity of the land, with a 68% increase in grass harvested by cattle on pasture.
• A significant improvement in livestock health, with a key indicator - mastitis - dropping from 73% to 3% within the herd.
• Improved milk quality, with a 10% increase in total milk solids.
• Improved quality of life for the entire family, including more time to spend together, more wildlife to enjoy, a sense of community, and a lot less stress.
• Improved financial position, enabling the family to purchase an additional farm that would triple the size of their land, provide a new family home, and allow expansion of the herd and milking parlor.
@@SavoryInstitute Yes, I went to site and
you've copied the same here, was unable
to bring up the Dharma farm link. What's
absent is the herd size and so on. From the look of the barn and that antique silo, I
can see that this today would qualify as a hobby farm. Even grazing 6 months would
require a 20x60 silo for corn silage during
winter months and thousands of bales
of alfalfa hay for winter months. So this is
not in any way representative of a viable dairy farm in the contemporary sense. Cows do not like mature grasses, but prefer
legumes, particularly alfalfa. It's a nice narrative for 'holistic' adherents, and of
course it's always nice to have hundreds of acres of pasture for a limited herd to roam
around on, for young cattle spring to fall.
Grazing must be halted as soon as frost
occurs or you will lose animals from bloat,
especially for certain kinds of clover. As
for modern dairies, this idea is going nowhere. Well anyhow.