I have this antenna in my attic, and your review of its capability is spot-on, Tyler. In my case, I am about 25 or so miles away from the broadcast towers, and this antenna works well for my situation. As someone who worked at Radio Shack when I was a kid, I was used to selling very large, rather well built TV antennas. It is saddening to see what passes today as an average or even above average build quality antenna. They would have been laughed off the market back in the day...
You can even put two of them in the attic. In a lot of places you have some channels "over in that direction" and some "over in that other direction". Using a "splitter" to combine the two outputs can be a great solution to get a strong signal from both groups. The attic usually has enough room to do it.
awwww my first antenna. I bought it over 2 1/2 years ago and tried so so hard to get it to work. I still have it down in the office . Its good for playing around with. I totally agree with your assessment. The RCA ANT705E is just a better attic antenna, and happens to be the one I'm running now.
In general I skip to the part where you present the antenna, reception test and give the final verdict is it worth buying or not, but it's a great idea that in every video you explain the basics (no such thing as HD or 4K antenna, differences between VHF and UHF, Channel Number) for the new subscribers.
Yeah I feel the same way. Most of us don't need the education about VHF/UHF or digital or high-definition etcetera but some people just tuning in would like an explanation so it's good.
I have no problem with my subscriber skipping most parts of the video. As you know I have to mention the HD/VHF/UHF bit in every antenna review because many of my viewers only watch that one video and nothing else.
@@bobh.4580 When I was new into Free TV especially OTA and satellite TV, Tyler, Robbie Strike, Northcoaster Hobby and for Europe TV trade Dave, Smart Aerials were the channels that I needed to better understand everything about TV, Radio and satellite reception.
Good review as always.I think you should market a T-Shirt or hoodie with "There is no such thing as an HD Antenna" on the front And Antenna Man on the back.That would be a blast.
@@mrchopsticks3 The part that fails first is usually the insulator thing that the twinlead or Balun screws down to. That is the only non-metal part and the sunlight attacks it over time.
Another excellent review! I almost recommended this antenna to a family member but glad I didn't. Instead I had them purchase another one you recommended and it does a fine job in their attic!
Some people would probably be fooled by the "GE" branding (this doesn't even seem to bear the official "GE" round logo, which many used to call the "GE Meatball"). GE is now a shadow of what it once was: An American industrial force with which to be reckoned in the early to mid Twentieth Century, manufacturing everything from heavy industrial electrical generating equipment to household major and minor appliances and consumer electronics that were dependable, sturdy, and high quality. The trend finally hit GE, as it did other American stalwart brands such as Westinghouse, RCA, Admiral, where the original parent company spun off different divisions and allowed manufacturers of substandard products to paste the licensed brand name on their products for a "licensing fee" of the brand name. Thank you for your review. Your work is so informative and helps us, the consumers, from being taken by these companies.
I have this antenna in my attic hooked up with a 15db amplifier. I pull in our NBC affiliate WJFW-TV 12, and I live 56 miles southwest of the transmitter. Very impressive!!
I get 80 Channels in Dallas, Texas with that antenna. It works better than a lot of antennas I have tried. Always use with a signal booster. It just has to be very carefully aimed.
If you are in the market for an antenna I would defiantly invest in a custom recommendation from Tyler. I have and I am very pleased. He e-mailed me with additional question to make sure that his recommendation was covering all the bases and conditions that I needed. I was going to buy an antenna that was more expensive and would not have been as good for my area. Thank you Mr. Tyler.
Many newer homes have roof decking that is lined with foil. It would be very interesting for AM to compare a good antenna in an attic with no foil to another attic with foil.
In general a foil barrier will likely kill your signal. No reason to test antennas that way - I simply test all antennas in the same location on a pole attached to my roof.
@@AntennaMan I believe you, AM. Yet, we who have strict HOA rules and live within 30 miles of our stations' towers might see value in knowing how much signal makes its way through foil decking. You are da man, and could rig up such a test for us wannabe nerds.
I concur. That said, I have tried two different antennas in my radiant barrier roof and still nearly 50 channels. UHF is near flawless, but VHF is an issue. I can get Fox San Antonio on UHF and much farther away better than I can get Fox Austin on VHF much closer. The SA channel is actually BEHIND the antenna as well.
This antenna works great. Good for up to 45 miles mounted outdoors. Can even pick up channels 40 miles away on the backside(180 degrees to the opposite side). I bought two for $20 each new from a Canadian store , about $78 at Can. Amazon. It is very flimsy but for $20 a person can't go wrong.
Good to see you reviewing antennas that are stocked by Walmart. I suppose an "attic antenna" is any antenna too big to sit next to your TV but too flimsy to survive outdoor use.
For a stable reception I recommend for UHF receptoion a 10 elements antenna for high to medium signal or 19 elements for medium to weak signal and 44 elements for weak to extremely weak signal, for VHF reception I recommend a 4 elements for high to medium signal, a 13 elements for medium to weak signal and 11 elements for weak to extremely weak signal and I only recommend Yagi or Log antennas. VHF+UHF combiners and a splitter with adjustable gain amplifier is mandatory and these are my recommendations and are based from my tests and others. You do a great job showing us what's the difference between a real antenna and a knock off, most of the antennas are unfortunately knock offs. Unfortunately those who recently cut off cable and pay satellite TV fall into this trap with 36K 240 fps Dolby digital 12.1 surround sound antennas that can receive more than 500 miles (to make a small joke). I do not recommend installing an antenna in the attic I had bad experience especially with UHF band but if you don't have other options I recommend an antenna that is designed for medium to weak signal or weak to extremely weak signal.
@@kensmith5694 But Ken a piece of wire 12 inches long attached to RG 6 cable, on your roof with a bracket holding it vertical would bring in the same 30 mile radius Stations. Height of Antenna and size of antenna brings in more stations.
@@diycarhome9151 Vertical is the wrong polarization for TV broadcasts. Once you get clear of any obstructions in the line of sight, more height doesn't improve matters. 12 inches is too short. One of the TV stations is on RF channel 5 so it is in the 76-82MHz range. To compute the wavelength use 79MHz and the equation L = 300/79 = 3.8 Meters The ideal antenna for this would be 1/2 of that or 1.7meters BTW: There is a quite funny case of someone waaaaaaaaay out at the fringe who found that there was a spot where his antenna got a lot of stations that was just on the railing of his deck. Higher didn't work at all. Something about the local geography focused the radio waves.
Nicholas, element count is kind of nebulous. Because there are different ways of counting elements. For example the 91xg claims to have 91 elements. On some UHF antennas the elements are just single rod elements. Do you count both sides of the rods on the Boom? On some Hi VHF antennas like the 30-2476, usually the single rod element is counted as one. Element count is just a marketing tool to be honest.
Issue with Yagi is they are extreme directional antenna, to the point which you can only receives stations from a single broadcast tower. The GE, or flat UHF antennas are much less narrow and can recieve from multiple towers if they are with in about a 30 to 70 degree arc. With the YAGI you need a lot of antennas, need to point them pretty accurately, and need to address the multiple antenna issue with reflections (off buildings, mountains, etc) as well as phase offsets (balanced cable lengths between antennas) to avoid interference.
I’m only 21 miles from our TV towers, and I have this same antenna sitting in my shed out back. I tried it in my attic for a while until I made a copper wire whisker type antenna, for less than 20 bucks, that does a lot better job of picking up stations in my area.
4:55, those 12 metal pieces are the reflectors, right? Not the actual antenna elements. The elements should be the loops in the center: the long one you pointed out and the loops pointing forward?
I've owned this attic antenna for about 4 years. I get good signals on UHF and VHF from a distance of about 35 miles. I've mounted it in the attic, and use a signal booster. Terrain is relatively flat. It's one quarter the cost of the antennas in the comparison.
This one worked great for me. I'm in New London Connecticut, 6 floors up. This is a brick and concrete building. I picked up most of my locals. On odd nights I can get NYC.
Similar to what I experienced with this in the attic. It was just okay. The smaller ClearStream MAX-V UHF/VHF Indoor/Outdoor Antenna worked better and picked up more channels from my attic. House is about 45 miles from the towers. Once I put on a quality amplifier, started to get everything with solid strength.
I'm 30 miles away and tried the ClearStream MAX-V UHF/VHF Indoor/Outdoor Antenna and the GE Long Range Attic Mount TV worked much better. Picked up an extra 24 channels. Tried both outside on the roof
Great starter antenna, low price and good results. I've had this model 18" off the ground next to the gas meter and the HOA hasn't seen it yet😆 However, after a few years I was having problems holding signals and pixelation; replaced longer cable runs with no splices without improvement, then simply ordered a new antenna. Success!! The new one did the trick, 85 regular and 12 NEXTGEN channels. My conclusion is that they are not going to last 5, 10, 15 years but a great bang for the buck at $10 bucks per year. location details - between major cities, both in the 25 - 30 mile range with a 80° angle. There is a ridge and tree line to deal with AND that HOA 😵💫
I think the terminology of attic antenna fit's this one perfectly because it would never withstand the elements Outdoors. I can't imagine what would happen to the elements when it got a layer of ice on it. I think the wind could beat this one up pretty good too. Although it could be mounted outside in a mild climate with very moderate average wind speed. For most of the country It could only survive in an attic. Good review Tyler keep them coming!
I considered buying this model when I was shopping, but I figure not just put an outdoor antenna in the attic? I’m glad you said I was thinking correctly. I put it outside though, it works great.
I got a few of these for $10 without the reflector part (on clearance from 20) from a regional hardware store. It does good at my parents and conditions pending I've picked up stations one night from Kansas City (250 mi). And where I live now I can easily pick up the station I work for and the others, with occasionally picking up Omaha stations in a valley 60 miles away. They work well outside despite saying attic only and for the price and the mounting hardware it came it I'm not complaining. Moving next month and hope to take advantage of the location for a new antenna.
I have this antenna - as well as the RCA ANT751R antenna. I am about 10-15 miles away from the major broadcast networks. The biggest issue I have is tree interference, but for the most part I get decent reception on both antennas but the RCA is the better of the two I believe. I agree totally on the build quality - I would not mount this antenna outside, as it simply is not built to withstand what the weather would throw at it. However, I wouldn't smash this antenna - it is designed and built with quality appropriate to an indoor (attic) installation and is marketed and name explicitly as an "attic" antenna.
Interesting. I have the cousin of that, the 29884 and get great results with it outdoors for over a year now. Glad I didn't get the one in this video. I know, results do vary, but for me, I am still getting all channels in my area.
I had this antenna for awhile in an upstairs bedroom pointed at the transmitter stations some 30 miles away through a window. I got the UHF channels OK except the ION affiliate which was 50 miles away but I couldn't get any VHF channels at all. You are correct about it being very flimsy.
Distance is only part of whether your antenna can pick up enough of the signal to not break up on your TV. Your TV may require a certain strength of signal coming from the antenna, but the signal strength of the broadcast is a big part of what your antenna picks up!
I got one of those small plastic ones on Amazon that has a long range booster, think it was 27 dollars and put it in the attic , all my towers are 40 miles away and get 53 channels that are perfect and sure look like they are in HD
Many are in HD some aren't. Generally there are some stations showing old TV programs. These are not doing HD. Ordinary standard definition TV looks just fine for most stuff.
I have one of these too, just mounted on a stand next to the TV. While it works well enough on the UHF stations, and the one hi-VHF, the local low power station has moved from uhf 14 to VHF-3. Even with the power boost they made, reception is spotty. Sometimes it's fine, sometimes nothing at all. I've been thinking about cutting the ends off that vhf element and extending them trombone style with some cheap tubing.
Was this actually made by GE, or I wonder if it was made by a cheap Chinese manufacturer that licensed the GE name for antennas. Similar to Haier, which is the owner of the GE appliances trademark now
I have this antenna mounted on a 60 foot pole. So far no issues with the durability but its only been mounted for about 3 months. I have it pulling in stations with an RF amp from about 80 miles away, but I am on a high area and also its mounted 60 feet on a pole. I have one of the other Antennas compared with this antenna which is receiving stations 120 miles away (with RF amp). FYI: Currently I am able to receive stations from three areas (my local and two metro areas that are about 100 miles away - in different directions). The only issue is that there isn't a lot of variety of channels after the past two FCC repacks. Most of the areas broadcast the same channels (MeTV, ION, Charge, Comet, DABL, etc). which is unfortunate. I looked into the possibility of go with free satellite TV, but the only free channels are the same I get with with my antennas (MeTV, ION, Charge, DABL, etc).
I have this same antenna north of the border here in Canada. I found the antenna to be a superior indoor antenna when paired with an amplifier. I received good signal strength at 30 miles indoors. Impressive not, however my community sits in a valley and I'm surrounded by century old maple trees. It's not pretty to look at set up in the living room but some say the same about the motorcycle. I'm gonna try antenna testing myself... I'm curious if a ham radio uhf Yagi would yeild a decent result? The build quality ham equipment is usually 'top shelf'. Also I'm curious if an antenna tuner could be useful to dial in a specific frequency? Food for thought and time for a snack.
Yes! This would work better than the average indoor antenna. Not the prettiest as you said. I used to use the "outdoor antenna inside" approach when I was in college
I have a random question. Thanks BTW for your videos lots of great info. Ok my question will a length of 150-200 feet of coaxial cable really effect the performance of my antenna? If so what can I do to help? Thank you very much!
A long cable between the antenna and the receiver will result in signal loss, especially with a cheap cable. For instance, an RG-59 cable will lose about 7 DB for every 100 feet. An RG-5 will lose about 4 DB for every 100 feet. Also every connector installed will also reduce signal strenght (between 2 and 5 db per connector). The best option is to install an RF amp near the antenna so the single strength remains strong in the long cable length. If you have a Steel core\copper clad coax) your best option would be to run a DC cable to RF amp rather than using coax power (as antenna man recommend).
I'm doing some bench testing in my kitchen, turns out a 200mile Yagi is a dud, or doesnt fit my needs. Even with a Channel master -pre amp, doesn't do as good as a used $30 GE 60 mile - no amp. My test rig is a 13" TV and a JZBox converter - no remote but enough buttons on the front to get to the signal strength meter, which is pretty good. A Channel master 11+ preamp is not a wow, but did get two extra bars with the Yagi, so that preamp is working. And again the GE gave me an extra 5 - 8 bars without an preamp. I haven't tried the GE with the CM3412, maybe my house will catch on fire! lol I guess I'm looking for a indoor attic antenna - maybe I could stack two of the cheap GE? [I already have one GE60]
Hey Tyler, an absolutely fantastic review On this antenna. Having said that, I would love to see you do a review of antennas that apartment dwellers can use. Apartment dwellers have no roof or no attic to put these kind of antennas on or in. You are completely ignoring millions of potential subscribers to your channel. Which I know puts money in your pocket. So how about some reviews on antennas are meant to be used strictly indoors.
@@AntennaMan In the last year, you’ve done two or three reviews of strictly indoor antennas. That is not what I call several. I know you absolutely hate flat antennas. You have stated that many times on your channel. Well how about backing up your words with action. Why don’t you do a video demonstrating how to use and hook up a flat antenna for those of us who do live in apartments. I have a flat antenna on my main TV and it picks up over 60 channels including all the major channels. Furthermore on my second TV I have a eight dollar rabbit ears antenna I picked up at Best Buy and it takes up over 50 channels. My point here is that not all flat antennas are garbage. Some of them work very well. A good reviewer would point that out. How about doing a video on the best rabbit ears antennas. A lot of those work very well. I know you are limited by TH-cam what you can show on a TV screen, but I am sure you can figure out a way to demonstrate how well they work for those kind of antennas as well as the outdoor antennas that you definitely favor.
This GE antenna will work indoors. I had one attached to a pole that was seated in a 5 gallon bucket of sand with 6' lead to a bedroom television. The pole could be rotated by hand to change direction. Since then I've changed to a more permanent solution with a Wineguard antenna fastened outside to the eave of my home (with concealed wiring). The Wineguard feeds into a pair of amplified splitters that improve signal strength.
I have the other version of this with the triangle shaped dipoles paired with an amplifier. My reception is nearly perfect and I live in a very poor reception area. Granted I have an old home with a high attic, which is where it's mounted, and I agree this shouldn't be mounted outside. It's perfect for an attic mount setup. It works OK without an amplifier but my VHF stations 11 and 13 are too weak to be stable without the amp. I also have an LTE filter installed for good measure and both the amp and distribution amp are on a Tripp Lite line filter. VHF 11 and 13 don't like line noise from motors and light ballasts.
I live in a location where I have several stations south of me and several north all within 50-60 mile range. Is there a 180 degree antenna or is it possible, using a splitter, to hook up 2 antenna facing in near opposite direction?
See video below. You might need to sign up for an antenna recommendation on my website for specific information on how to properly combine two antennas. th-cam.com/video/hTuKRLhpGHA/w-d-xo.html
I have watched a lot of your TH-cam videos and I was hoping you would answer the 1 question I have never heard you answer. What percent do you need to not have pixelation? You show about 44% on WHYY a vhf channel. Is that good enough? Is 25%?
Also if you watched a lot of my videos but are still confused what antenna to buy send me an email and I'll give you a free antenna recommendation. The email is in the description of the video
Do you have any other VHF station to test? Just saying pay attention to your lone channel 13 the most as I have several vhf stations in my area. Uhf does much better by me..baffled why they stuck with vhf ..nyc market.
Could you still get away with a small directional antenna if a low powered station has an effective radiated power (ERP) of 5 KW, and 14 and a half miles away?
I am interested in you thoughts on a decent SDR antenna kit. I know there are SDR makers, but its VHF/UHF and its about product quality. The market is flooded with China stuff, no thanks! I'm new to the sport, You have impressed me with your presentations. LIKE!
Some points to ponder about the margin of error when testing antennas. It would be a better performance test if the antennas were all tested within the same season over a period of at least 2 weeks or more for an average of the results of signal strength. Leaves on trees vs none in the Winter create a broad difference in signal reception. Weather also has a big influence. For example, an antenna’s signal reception value of 100% at 50 miles during Winter months may drop by a quarter to half of that value (25-50%)in the Summer months due to leaves. That being said, there can be quite a margin of error within your performance tests from season to season. The 2 week test average would have varying signal results due to weather and also would deliver a nice average of that time frame causing the seasonal average(Winter vs Summer) to vary + or - 10 units on the reception bar graph. In a nutshell, there is a large possible margin of error when and where you test antennas. I’ve built and tested antennas for over 40 years and have an Amateur Extra class license.
It probably has to do with how the element was wired to the 75ohm coax connector on the antenna. Some have said that it isn't done correctly on newer antennas.
If you rate on the basis of cost vs number of stations, for many people, the best antenna would be a random bit of wire they happen to find. When cost is zero or nearly so it is easy for Stations/Dollars to be a really big number.
The power is so small it is darn near zero and yet the signal is good enough for the TV to work with. 0.001W is enough power to be considered a signal.
The only thing that I've found an "attic antenna" needs to do that an outdoor antenna doesn't is put up with a hot attic. Some of these cheap "attic antennas" can't do that for very long.
@@kensmith5694 That's a major advantage of an outdoor antenna. Cheap parts failing in summer heat is a problem with "attic antennas" few seem to be mentioning. The GE antenna looks like it's only a matter of time before the plastic frame fails in an attic.
OKIE DOKIE KIDS!!! New drinking game!! Every time the antenna man throw's up air quotations, who have to drink! I promise you will be plastered by the end of one of his videos!!! HA!!
@@AntennaMan Okay . I didn't know, I live in Denmark. We don't use antennas. And it's been years .. But hey .. US is much bigger than Danmark .. Thanks for the answer, and hello from Danmark. 🙂
I wonder if the "brand name" is used under license? There isn't much on the market in the $35 range. Either way, I would spend a bit more and skip this one. You won't probably get even 40-mile range -- especially with four closely-spaced elements.
I don't think anybody should consider buying this antenna because even if you want it in your attic and are close enough to any towers there are probably better antenna choices for about the same amount of money. I would have smashed the thing 😁
Another indicator that this antenna has poor performance is the 12 elements that make-up the reflector are not electrically connected to each other. Instead, the reflector elements are held together with two plastic strips. Therefore, the reflector screen has reduced efficiency. Ideally, this type of antenna is intended to receive primarily from one direction. However, with an inefficient reflector, this antenna receives in two directions (from the front and almost as well from back).
That is not correct. Electrically all the current in the reflector flows in the horizontal direction. An electrical vertical connection would not help. Using the VHF-Hi element to form the reflector for the UHF would have been a better design rather than just one dipole for it. The UHF elements would work as directors. The VHF-Lo elements could then be the reflector for VHF-Hi.
Cut the cord? I would not just ruin a perfectly (probably) good coaxial cable, but just unscrew the connectors on the cable from the TV and the decoder box and do the same with the patch cable between the wall connector box and the decoder, and return them to the cable operator, saying that - sorry - I will go back to OTA TV… 🙂
As a boomer who grew up with - and had a wonderful engineering career with - General Electric, Westinghouse, and RCA, it saddens me to see their legendary names sold off to Asian gadget hucksters like whoever manufactured this antenna. The TV accessory aisle in the Walmart electronics section is crammed with these big name brands of the past that today exist only as printed labels.
I don't see the point of an "attic antenna". If you can put an antenna in your attic, it means you own your residence, and can therefore put an antenna outside, where it will perform much better. According to the FCC OTARD Rule, no one, including a Home Owners Association, can prohibit you from installing an outdoor antenna. So just do it.
Inside an attic is protected from the weather and if you have a great fear of heights like I do, it can be a good option. In many places, an attic antenna works as well as one above the roof.
& anyone who believes there is a hd antenna is slow lmao. all channels coming in on your TV weather cable or thru antennas are of hd quality & depend on your actual TV weather or not you get the clear hd view or not
I’m 50 miles south west of the Toronto CN Tower as the crow flies, 85 miles to NBC, CBS and ABC in South Buffalo. 70 miles to Grand Island, NY (North Buffalo Stations. There is way in hell that thing is going to pull in Stations from 50 miles away inside a bungalow attic. Total lie. A piece of wire stuck outside on the eavestrough will coaxial cable running to it would get the same Stations in a 30 mile radius. I have 5 local stations 25, 10, 30 and 6 miles away.
Im 35 miles east of Toronto and the US stations i receive are 70-80 miles due south of my location. I am using an Antennas Direct DB2E indoors and it receives all Toronto and Buffalo stations. It is only rated for 45 miles. As you said, there is no way this reviewed antenna has a 70 mile range.
@@jimwilson7403 I take it your in East of Oshawa on the north shore of Lake Ontario. Because you got a open flat lake you would get signals using the DB2e. I set up a DB4e in Orangeville, Ontario at a elevation of 1,600 feet above sea level and did get WKBW ABC 7.1, WNED PBS 17.1, WUTV 2 Fox 29.1, WNYB 49.1. WKBW 7.1 is coming from Colden, New York (south Buffalo) the other Stations I listed are coming from Grand Island, New York (North Buffalo) Distance from Orangeville, Ontario to Colden, New York (WKBW) is 115 miles. So elevation has a big part to do with reception of TV channels.
@@diycarhome9151 Actually im a mile from the lake shore in South Oshawa. And you are right about the lake having a positive effect on my reception. It also has a negative effect as well with fog issues in the spring and fall.
I have to say it in every antenna review because most times the one video of the antenna being reviewed is the only one some people see. It's better to over explain it than to under explain it and someone buy the wrong antenna.
General Electric (GE) is just a name that has been spun off to multiple manufacturers that have little to do with the original GE. And, GE is essentially dead and gone. For many products, "GE" is actually a cheapo Chinese manufacturer.
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I have this antenna in my attic, and your review of its capability is spot-on, Tyler. In my case, I am about 25 or so miles away from the broadcast towers, and this antenna works well for my situation.
As someone who worked at Radio Shack when I was a kid, I was used to selling very large, rather well built TV antennas. It is saddening to see what passes today as an average or even above average build quality antenna. They would have been laughed off the market back in the day...
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A lot of people don't realize you can stick an antenna in the attic. Much better than smaller indoor antenna.
You can even put two of them in the attic.
In a lot of places you have some channels "over in that direction" and some "over in that other direction". Using a "splitter" to combine the two outputs can be a great solution to get a strong signal from both groups. The attic usually has enough room to do it.
True, however your best signal strength quality is on the outside of your home.
awwww my first antenna. I bought it over 2 1/2 years ago and tried so so hard to get it to work. I still have it down in the office . Its good for playing around with. I totally agree with your assessment. The RCA ANT705E is just a better attic antenna, and happens to be the one I'm running now.
In general I skip to the part where you present the antenna, reception test and give the final verdict is it worth buying or not, but it's a great idea that in every video you explain the basics (no such thing as HD or 4K antenna, differences between VHF and UHF, Channel Number) for the new subscribers.
Yeah I feel the same way. Most of us don't need the education about VHF/UHF or digital or high-definition etcetera but some people just tuning in would like an explanation so it's good.
I have no problem with my subscriber skipping most parts of the video. As you know I have to mention the HD/VHF/UHF bit in every antenna review because many of my viewers only watch that one video and nothing else.
@@bobh.4580 When I was new into Free TV especially OTA and satellite TV, Tyler, Robbie Strike, Northcoaster Hobby and for Europe TV trade Dave, Smart Aerials were the channels that I needed to better understand everything about TV, Radio and satellite reception.
@@AntennaMan I totally get that.
Good review as always.I think you should market a T-Shirt or hoodie with "There is no such thing as an HD Antenna" on the front And Antenna Man on the back.That would be a blast.
That's a great idea. I'll do it once I get the time to use my (mediocre) graphic design skills.
I have an antenna that is over 40 years old; it works 👍😳
Why wouldn't it? If you take care of it, it should last forever as metal doesn't degrade over time.
@@mrchopsticks3 The part that fails first is usually the insulator thing that the twinlead or Balun screws down to. That is the only non-metal part and the sunlight attacks it over time.
Another excellent review! I almost recommended this antenna to a family member but glad I didn't. Instead I had them purchase another one you recommended and it does a fine job in their attic!
Some people would probably be fooled by the "GE" branding (this doesn't even seem to bear the official "GE" round logo, which many used to call the "GE Meatball").
GE is now a shadow of what it once was: An American industrial force with which to be reckoned in the early to mid Twentieth Century, manufacturing everything from heavy industrial electrical generating equipment to household major and minor appliances and consumer electronics that were dependable, sturdy, and high quality.
The trend finally hit GE, as it did other American stalwart brands such as Westinghouse, RCA, Admiral, where the original parent company spun off different divisions and allowed manufacturers of substandard products to paste the licensed brand name on their products for a "licensing fee" of the brand name. Thank you for your review. Your work is so informative and helps us, the consumers, from being taken by these companies.
I have this antenna in my attic hooked up with a 15db amplifier. I pull in our NBC affiliate WJFW-TV 12, and I live 56 miles southwest of the transmitter. Very impressive!!
Review starts @ 3:13
Tyler, I have previously had outdoor antennas installed in the attic because they are protected from the weather and have great reception!
I get 80 Channels in Dallas, Texas with that antenna. It works better than a lot of antennas I have tried. Always use with a signal booster. It just has to be very carefully aimed.
If you are in the market for an antenna I would defiantly invest in a custom recommendation from Tyler. I have and I am very pleased. He e-mailed me with additional question to make sure that his recommendation was covering all the bases and conditions that I needed. I was going to buy an antenna that was more expensive and would not have been as good for my area. Thank you Mr. Tyler.
Thanks for sharing your experience Clyde. I'm glad I was able to help you get the right antenna for your area.
Tyler is in the holiday spirit, he spared the antenna 😂
Many newer homes have roof decking that is lined with foil. It would be very interesting for AM to compare a good antenna in an attic with no foil to another attic with foil.
In general a foil barrier will likely kill your signal. No reason to test antennas that way - I simply test all antennas in the same location on a pole attached to my roof.
@@AntennaMan I believe you, AM. Yet, we who have strict HOA rules and live within 30 miles of our stations' towers might see value in knowing how much signal makes its way through foil decking. You are da man, and could rig up such a test for us wannabe nerds.
I concur. That said, I have tried two different antennas in my radiant barrier roof and still nearly 50 channels. UHF is near flawless, but VHF is an issue. I can get Fox San Antonio on UHF and much farther away better than I can get Fox Austin on VHF much closer. The SA channel is actually BEHIND the antenna as well.
Now $29. I used this for my other home. Works very well outside for me. Orlando Location Towers 25 miles away or so
This antenna works great. Good for up to 45 miles mounted outdoors. Can even pick up channels 40 miles away on the backside(180 degrees to the opposite side). I bought two for $20 each new from a Canadian store , about $78 at Can. Amazon. It is very flimsy but for $20 a person can't go wrong.
Good to see you reviewing antennas that are stocked by Walmart. I suppose an "attic antenna" is any antenna too big to sit next to your TV but too flimsy to survive outdoor use.
The dumb thing about this design is that it didn't seem to fold up small. A lot of houses have only a smallish opening to get up into the attic space.
For a stable reception I recommend for UHF receptoion a 10 elements antenna for high to medium signal or 19 elements for medium to weak signal and 44 elements for weak to extremely weak signal, for VHF reception I recommend a 4 elements for high to medium signal, a 13 elements for medium to weak signal and 11 elements for weak to extremely weak signal and I only recommend Yagi or Log antennas. VHF+UHF combiners and a splitter with adjustable gain amplifier is mandatory and these are my recommendations and are based from my tests and others. You do a great job showing us what's the difference between a real antenna and a knock off, most of the antennas are unfortunately knock offs. Unfortunately those who recently cut off cable and pay satellite TV fall into this trap with 36K 240 fps Dolby digital 12.1 surround sound antennas that can receive more than 500 miles (to make a small joke). I do not recommend installing an antenna in the attic I had bad experience especially with UHF band but if you don't have other options I recommend an antenna that is designed for medium to weak signal or weak to extremely weak signal.
I get perfectly good reception with a home made bowtie antenna. I am about 30 miles fro the towers and it is line of sight.
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But Ken a piece of wire 12 inches long attached to RG 6 cable, on your roof with a bracket holding it vertical would bring in the same 30 mile radius Stations. Height of Antenna and size of antenna brings in more stations.
@@diycarhome9151 Vertical is the wrong polarization for TV broadcasts.
Once you get clear of any obstructions in the line of sight, more height doesn't improve matters.
12 inches is too short.
One of the TV stations is on RF channel 5 so it is in the 76-82MHz range. To compute the wavelength use 79MHz and the equation
L = 300/79 = 3.8 Meters
The ideal antenna for this would be 1/2 of that or 1.7meters
BTW: There is a quite funny case of someone waaaaaaaaay out at the fringe who found that there was a spot where his antenna got a lot of stations that was just on the railing of his deck. Higher didn't work at all. Something about the local geography focused the radio waves.
Nicholas, element count is kind of nebulous. Because there are different ways of counting elements. For example the 91xg claims to have 91 elements. On some UHF antennas the elements are just single rod elements. Do you count both sides of the rods on the Boom?
On some Hi VHF antennas like the 30-2476, usually the single rod element is counted as one. Element count is just a marketing tool to be honest.
Issue with Yagi is they are extreme directional antenna, to the point which you can only receives stations from a single broadcast tower. The GE, or flat UHF antennas are much less narrow and can recieve from multiple towers if they are with in about a 30 to 70 degree arc. With the YAGI you need a lot of antennas, need to point them pretty accurately, and need to address the multiple antenna issue with reflections (off buildings, mountains, etc) as well as phase offsets (balanced cable lengths between antennas) to avoid interference.
I’m only 21 miles from our TV towers, and I have this same antenna sitting in my shed out back. I tried it in my attic for a while until I made a copper wire whisker type antenna, for less than 20 bucks, that does a lot better job of picking up stations in my area.
4:55, those 12 metal pieces are the reflectors, right? Not the actual antenna elements. The elements should be the loops in the center: the long one you pointed out and the loops pointing forward?
I've owned this attic antenna for about 4 years. I get good signals on UHF and VHF from a distance of about 35 miles. I've mounted it in the attic, and use a signal booster. Terrain is relatively flat. It's one quarter the cost of the antennas in the comparison.
This one worked great for me. I'm in New London Connecticut, 6 floors up. This is a brick and concrete building.
I picked up most of my locals. On odd nights I can get NYC.
Similar to what I experienced with this in the attic. It was just okay. The smaller ClearStream MAX-V UHF/VHF Indoor/Outdoor Antenna worked better and picked up more channels from my attic. House is about 45 miles from the towers. Once I put on a quality amplifier, started to get everything with solid strength.
That's interesting - thanks for sharing your experience!
I'm 30 miles away and tried the ClearStream MAX-V UHF/VHF Indoor/Outdoor Antenna and the GE Long Range Attic Mount TV worked much better. Picked up an extra 24 channels. Tried both outside on the roof
Great starter antenna, low price and good results. I've had this model 18" off the ground next to the gas meter and the HOA hasn't seen it yet😆 However, after a few years I was having problems holding signals and pixelation; replaced longer cable runs with no splices without improvement, then simply ordered a new antenna. Success!! The new one did the trick, 85 regular and 12 NEXTGEN channels. My conclusion is that they are not going to last 5, 10, 15 years but a great bang for the buck at $10 bucks per year.
location details - between major cities, both in the 25 - 30 mile range with a 80° angle. There is a ridge and tree line to deal with AND that HOA 😵💫
Had that same model at one point. worked well but didn't survive a storm that knocked it down.
I think the terminology of attic antenna fit's this one perfectly because it would never withstand the elements Outdoors. I can't imagine what would happen to the elements when it got a layer of ice on it. I think the wind could beat this one up pretty good too. Although it could be mounted outside in a mild climate with very moderate average wind speed. For most of the country It could only survive in an attic. Good review Tyler keep them coming!
Exactly! If the build quality is bad just label it as an "attic antenna!"
"I'm sorry sir we can't warranty that antenna because it was supposed to be installed in your attic !"
I considered buying this model when I was shopping, but I figure not just put an outdoor antenna in the attic? I’m glad you said I was thinking correctly. I put it outside though, it works great.
I got a few of these for $10 without the reflector part (on clearance from 20) from a regional hardware store. It does good at my parents and conditions pending I've picked up stations one night from Kansas City (250 mi). And where I live now I can easily pick up the station I work for and the others, with occasionally picking up Omaha stations in a valley 60 miles away. They work well outside despite saying attic only and for the price and the mounting hardware it came it I'm not complaining. Moving next month and hope to take advantage of the location for a new antenna.
I have this antenna - as well as the RCA ANT751R antenna. I am about 10-15 miles away from the major broadcast networks. The biggest issue I have is tree interference, but for the most part I get decent reception on both antennas but the RCA is the better of the two I believe. I agree totally on the build quality - I would not mount this antenna outside, as it simply is not built to withstand what the weather would throw at it. However, I wouldn't smash this antenna - it is designed and built with quality appropriate to an indoor (attic) installation and is marketed and name explicitly as an "attic" antenna.
My fav!
Interesting. I have the cousin of that, the 29884 and get great results with it outdoors for over a year now. Glad I didn't get the one in this video. I know, results do vary, but for me, I am still getting all channels in my area.
It would be interesting to hear your review of Digiwave antennas.
Digiwave antennas seem to be just generic antennas from China marketed under the "Digiwave" name.
I had this antenna for awhile in an upstairs bedroom pointed at the transmitter stations some 30 miles away through a window. I got the UHF channels OK except the ION affiliate which was 50 miles away but I couldn't get any VHF channels at all. You are correct about it being very flimsy.
Really dislike when big companies attach their name to products that have no build quality and work poorly.
Yeah that's the norm now with RCA and GE
Have you done a review for RV antennas? I would like one that works better than the one that came with my RV.
Distance is only part of whether your antenna can pick up enough of the signal to not break up on your TV. Your TV may require a certain strength of signal coming from the antenna, but the signal strength of the broadcast is a big part of what your antenna picks up!
I would like to see the comparison to the GE Pro that you have all ready tested.
I got one of those small plastic ones on Amazon that has a long range booster, think it was 27 dollars and put it in the attic , all my towers are 40 miles away and get 53 channels that are perfect and sure look like they are in HD
Many are in HD some aren't. Generally there are some stations showing old TV programs. These are not doing HD. Ordinary standard definition TV looks just fine for most stuff.
I have one of these too, just mounted on a stand next to the TV. While it works well enough on the UHF stations, and the one hi-VHF, the local low power station has moved from uhf 14 to VHF-3. Even with the power boost they made, reception is spotty. Sometimes it's fine, sometimes nothing at all. I've been thinking about cutting the ends off that vhf element and extending them trombone style with some cheap tubing.
Extending the VHF element might help reception of the VHF 3 signal in your area as it's only optimized for high VHF on this antenna - not low VHF.
Was this actually made by GE, or I wonder if it was made by a cheap Chinese manufacturer that licensed the GE name for antennas. Similar to Haier, which is the owner of the GE appliances trademark now
What converter box do you use most of the time when testing antennas.
I have this antenna mounted on a 60 foot pole. So far no issues with the durability but its only been mounted for about 3 months. I have it pulling in stations with an RF amp from about 80 miles away, but I am on a high area and also its mounted 60 feet on a pole. I have one of the other Antennas compared with this antenna which is receiving stations 120 miles away (with RF amp).
FYI: Currently I am able to receive stations from three areas (my local and two metro areas that are about 100 miles away - in different directions). The only issue is that there isn't a lot of variety of channels after the past two FCC repacks. Most of the areas broadcast the same channels (MeTV, ION, Charge, Comet, DABL, etc). which is unfortunate.
I looked into the possibility of go with free satellite TV, but the only free channels are the same I get with with my antennas (MeTV, ION, Charge, DABL, etc).
Hopefully you guyed your 60 ft mast in case of high winds.
I have this same antenna north of the border here in Canada. I found the antenna to be a superior indoor antenna when paired with an amplifier. I received good signal strength at 30 miles indoors. Impressive not, however my community sits in a valley and I'm surrounded by century old maple trees. It's not pretty to look at set up in the living room but some say the same about the motorcycle. I'm gonna try antenna testing myself... I'm curious if a ham radio uhf Yagi would yeild a decent result? The build quality ham equipment is usually 'top shelf'. Also I'm curious if an antenna tuner could be useful to dial in a specific frequency? Food for thought and time for a snack.
Yes! This would work better than the average indoor antenna. Not the prettiest as you said. I used to use the "outdoor antenna inside" approach when I was in college
1:26 "attic antenna hand wave" classic.
I have a random question. Thanks BTW for your videos lots of great info. Ok my question will a length of 150-200 feet of coaxial cable really effect the performance of my antenna? If so what can I do to help? Thank you very much!
A long cable between the antenna and the receiver will result in signal loss, especially with a cheap cable. For instance, an RG-59 cable will lose about 7 DB for every 100 feet. An RG-5 will lose about 4 DB for every 100 feet. Also every connector installed will also reduce signal strenght (between 2 and 5 db per connector).
The best option is to install an RF amp near the antenna so the single strength remains strong in the long cable length. If you have a Steel core\copper clad coax) your best option would be to run a DC cable to RF amp rather than using coax power (as antenna man recommend).
I stuck the HDB91X in my attic and being 8 ft long, it's the best cheap UHF antenna on the market. In middle Tenn. 98% of the channels are on UHF.
Oh it's official. Claims r correct. U need an amp though with this if u want any long range
How about testing some RV, Marine, and FM radio antennas?
He did some that are suited to RVs.
Another thing to keep in mind is if you live in a tall 2-3 story house, this antenna may perform better than one in a single story ranch style house.
I'm doing some bench testing in my kitchen, turns out a 200mile Yagi is a dud, or doesnt fit my needs. Even with a Channel master -pre amp, doesn't do as good as a used $30 GE 60 mile - no amp. My test rig is a 13" TV and a JZBox converter - no remote but enough buttons on the front to get to the signal strength meter, which is pretty good. A Channel master 11+ preamp is not a wow, but did get two extra bars with the Yagi, so that preamp is working. And again the GE gave me an extra 5 - 8 bars without an preamp. I haven't tried the GE with the CM3412, maybe my house will catch on fire! lol
I guess I'm looking for a indoor attic antenna - maybe I could stack two of the cheap GE?
[I already have one GE60]
You do when you're 10 blocks away from the city which is Pittsburgh and an apartment that you can hang in antenna out the window?
The 33692 performed comparatively on UHF to the 29884, but the latter received VHF station WHYY.
Hey Tyler, an absolutely fantastic review On this antenna. Having said that, I would love to see you do a review of antennas that apartment dwellers can use. Apartment dwellers have no roof or no attic to put these kind of antennas on or in. You are completely ignoring millions of potential subscribers to your channel. Which I know puts money in your pocket. So how about some reviews on antennas are meant to be used strictly indoors.
I have several video reviews of indoor antennas. I even made a playlist of them right on my channels home page. Check them out.
@@AntennaMan In the last year, you’ve done two or three reviews of strictly indoor antennas. That is not what I call several. I know you absolutely hate flat antennas. You have stated that many times on your channel. Well how about backing up your words with action. Why don’t you do a video demonstrating how to use and hook up a flat antenna for those of us who do live in apartments. I have a flat antenna on my main TV and it picks up over 60 channels including all the major channels. Furthermore on my second TV I have a eight dollar rabbit ears antenna I picked up at Best Buy and it takes up over 50 channels. My point here is that not all flat antennas are garbage. Some of them work very well. A good reviewer would point that out. How about doing a video on the best rabbit ears antennas. A lot of those work very well.
I know you are limited by TH-cam what you can show on a TV screen, but I am sure you can figure out a way to demonstrate how well they work for those kind of antennas as well as the outdoor antennas that you definitely favor.
This GE antenna will work indoors. I had one attached to a pole that was seated in a 5 gallon bucket of sand with 6' lead to a bedroom television. The pole could be rotated by hand to change direction. Since then I've changed to a more permanent solution with a Wineguard antenna fastened outside to the eave of my home (with concealed wiring). The Wineguard feeds into a pair of amplified splitters that improve signal strength.
I have It installed in attic and it's ok 40 miles and relative flat terrain.....
Glad it's working for you!
I have the other version of this with the triangle shaped dipoles paired with an amplifier. My reception is nearly perfect and I live in a very poor reception area. Granted I have an old home with a high attic, which is where it's mounted, and I agree this shouldn't be mounted outside. It's perfect for an attic mount setup. It works OK without an amplifier but my VHF stations 11 and 13 are too weak to be stable without the amp. I also have an LTE filter installed for good measure and both the amp and distribution amp are on a Tripp Lite line filter. VHF 11 and 13 don't like line noise from motors and light ballasts.
I have this same antenna laying in my storage room
I live in a location where I have several stations south of me and several north all within 50-60 mile range. Is there a 180 degree antenna or is it possible, using a splitter, to hook up 2 antenna facing in near opposite direction?
See video below. You might need to sign up for an antenna recommendation on my website for specific information on how to properly combine two antennas. th-cam.com/video/hTuKRLhpGHA/w-d-xo.html
I have watched a lot of your TH-cam videos and I was hoping you would answer the 1 question I have never heard you answer. What percent do you need to not have pixelation? You show about 44% on WHYY a vhf channel. Is that good enough? Is 25%?
Usually 40% is the digital cliff in which there is signal breakup or no picture.
Thank you for the reply.
Also if you watched a lot of my videos but are still confused what antenna to buy send me an email and I'll give you a free antenna recommendation. The email is in the description of the video
Do you have any other VHF station to test? Just saying pay attention to your lone channel 13 the most as I have several vhf stations in my area. Uhf does much better by me..baffled why they stuck with vhf ..nyc market.
There is another one but it's super strong and not worth testing. Besides that WHYY is the only other high VHF channel
Could you still get away with a small directional antenna if a low powered station has an effective radiated power (ERP) of 5 KW, and 14 and a half miles away?
Hi I noticed I only get one bar on all channels in my area Florida since the started broadcasting nextgen have u heard of this ?
See video below. It explains why. th-cam.com/video/UmXaR5ItF8I/w-d-xo.html
Don't recall you ever warning people about attic antennas and how they would be affected by metal roofs. Common where I live in Maine.
I am interested in you thoughts on a decent SDR antenna kit. I know there are SDR makers, but its VHF/UHF and its about product quality. The market is flooded with China stuff, no thanks! I'm new to the sport, You have impressed me with your presentations. LIKE!
Some points to ponder about the margin of error when testing antennas. It would be a better performance test if the antennas were all tested within the same season over a period of at least 2 weeks or more for an average of the results of signal strength. Leaves on trees vs none in the Winter create a broad difference in signal reception. Weather also has a big influence. For example, an antenna’s signal reception value of 100% at 50 miles during Winter months may drop by a quarter to half of that value (25-50%)in the Summer months due to leaves. That being said, there can be quite a margin of error within your performance tests from season to season. The 2 week test average would have varying signal results due to weather and also would deliver a nice average of that time frame causing the seasonal average(Winter vs Summer) to vary + or - 10 units on the reception bar graph. In a nutshell, there is a large possible margin of error when and where you test antennas. I’ve built and tested antennas for over 40 years and have an Amateur Extra class license.
The last 2 antennas that you tried out only had one VHF element also but for some reason they worked better on VHF can you explain that
It probably has to do with how the element was wired to the 75ohm coax connector on the antenna. Some have said that it isn't done correctly on newer antennas.
What indoor antenna is the best
See video below. th-cam.com/video/QkroujtyJv0/w-d-xo.html
If you rate on the basis of cost vs number of stations, for many people, the best antenna would be a random bit of wire they happen to find. When cost is zero or nearly so it is easy for Stations/Dollars to be a really big number.
How much power is an OTA antenna receiving?
The power is so small it is darn near zero and yet the signal is good enough for the TV to work with. 0.001W is enough power to be considered a signal.
I got better VHF reception by sticking my RCA rabbit ears in the attic, than I did with this antenna in the same spot.
Do you this at wal mart
I actually got this off Amazon but I think I've seen it at Walmart.
@@AntennaMan seen that before.
Ok so I'm actually mounting It on the outside of garage instead of inside...anyone know how it's TECHNICALLY suppose to be placed?
The only thing that I've found an "attic antenna" needs to do that an outdoor antenna doesn't is put up with a hot attic. Some of these cheap "attic antennas" can't do that for very long.
Outdoors allows you to get the antenna higher. For some this makes for more stations.
@@kensmith5694 That's a major advantage of an outdoor antenna. Cheap parts failing in summer heat is a problem with "attic antennas" few seem to be mentioning. The GE antenna looks like it's only a matter of time before the plastic frame fails in an attic.
@@jay_aich Yes, the antenna in the video looks like rubbish. For many people a cheap home made antenna would be a better option.
OKIE DOKIE KIDS!!! New drinking game!! Every time the antenna man throw's up air quotations, who have to drink! I promise you will be plastered by the end of one of his videos!!! HA!!
Are we still making antennas ?? . I thought it was in the past.
Nope. About 25% of tv viewing in the US is from an antenna. My TH-cam channel reaches about 700,000 people monthly
@@AntennaMan Okay . I didn't know, I live in Denmark. We don't use antennas. And it's been years .. But hey .. US is much bigger than Danmark .. Thanks for the answer, and hello from Danmark. 🙂
Will blow apart in 2 yrs outside
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I wonder if the "brand name" is used under license? There isn't much on the market in the $35 range. Either way, I would spend a bit more and skip this one. You won't probably get even 40-mile range -- especially with four closely-spaced elements.
It's likely what you're thinking - GE doesn't make this antenna. The name is just licensed.
I don't think anybody should consider buying this antenna because even if you want it in your attic and are close enough to any towers there are probably better antenna choices for about the same amount of money. I would have smashed the thing 😁
For many people, a home made aluminum foil bowtie would be good enough.
Hey, I buy tv antennas like that and I put on a tree and it shows up 15 to20 channels , so I very happ😊
Another indicator that this antenna has poor performance is the 12 elements that make-up the reflector are not electrically connected to each other. Instead, the reflector elements are held together with two plastic strips. Therefore, the reflector screen has reduced efficiency. Ideally, this type of antenna is intended to receive primarily from one direction. However, with an inefficient reflector, this antenna receives in two directions (from the front and almost as well from back).
That is not correct. Electrically all the current in the reflector flows in the horizontal direction. An electrical vertical connection would not help.
Using the VHF-Hi element to form the reflector for the UHF would have been a better design rather than just one dipole for it. The UHF elements would work as directors. The VHF-Lo elements could then be the reflector for VHF-Hi.
Cut the cord? I would not just ruin a perfectly (probably) good coaxial cable, but just unscrew the connectors on the cable from the TV and the decoder box and do the same with the patch cable between the wall connector box and the decoder, and return them to the cable operator, saying that - sorry - I will go back to OTA TV… 🙂
As a boomer who grew up with - and had a wonderful engineering career with - General Electric, Westinghouse, and RCA, it saddens me to see their legendary names sold off to Asian gadget hucksters like whoever manufactured this antenna. The TV accessory aisle in the Walmart electronics section is crammed with these big name brands of the past that today exist only as printed labels.
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It performs about the same. It's basically the same antenna with slightly longer reflectors.
@@AntennaMan Thank 😊 you.
Thank you for pardoning the execution of this flimsy antenna. 😃
Catch 45 channels in attack 😮 60 miles
Seem like a good antenna since you didn’t break it.
It's not the best but can do the job for some locations
I don't see the point of an "attic antenna". If you can put an antenna in your attic, it means you own your residence, and can therefore put an antenna outside, where it will perform much better. According to the FCC OTARD Rule, no one, including a Home Owners Association, can prohibit you from installing an outdoor antenna. So just do it.
Inside an attic is protected from the weather and if you have a great fear of heights like I do, it can be a good option.
In many places, an attic antenna works as well as one above the roof.
I really want to see Tyler do a "How to properly add foil to Rabbit Ears" video
I have 2 sets of rabbit ears. Using either I can get a station that is 40 miles away. How do I hook them together to get an 80 mile range?
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@@kensmith5694 Move your second antenna 40 miles away from the first, get a long coax cable....
I won’t try this antenna in Harrison, Mi 48625
This video, after 2001.
I've always like your presentations but please lose the air quotes
I had this!!!!!!!!!!
HAD THIS
It's junk!!!!!!!!!!!! Water gets into the plastic housing rusting connections. The gain is terrible at best
& anyone who believes there is a hd antenna is slow lmao. all channels coming in on your TV weather cable or thru antennas are of hd quality & depend on your actual TV weather or not you get the clear hd view or not
I’m 50 miles south west of the Toronto CN Tower as the crow flies, 85 miles to NBC, CBS and ABC in South Buffalo. 70 miles to Grand Island, NY (North Buffalo Stations.
There is way in hell that thing is going to pull in Stations from 50 miles away inside a bungalow attic. Total lie.
A piece of wire stuck outside on the eavestrough will coaxial cable running to it would get the same Stations in a 30 mile radius. I have 5 local stations 25, 10, 30 and 6 miles away.
Im 35 miles east of Toronto and the US stations i receive are 70-80 miles due south of my location. I am using an Antennas Direct DB2E indoors and it receives all Toronto and Buffalo stations. It is only rated for 45 miles. As you said, there is no way this reviewed antenna has a 70 mile range.
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I take it your in East of Oshawa on the north shore of Lake Ontario. Because you got a open flat lake you would get signals using the DB2e.
I set up a DB4e in Orangeville, Ontario at a elevation of 1,600 feet above sea level and did get WKBW ABC 7.1, WNED PBS 17.1, WUTV 2
Fox 29.1, WNYB 49.1.
WKBW 7.1 is coming from Colden, New York (south Buffalo) the other Stations I listed are coming from Grand Island, New York (North Buffalo)
Distance from Orangeville, Ontario to Colden, New York (WKBW) is 115 miles. So elevation has a big part to do with reception of TV channels.
@@diycarhome9151 Actually im a mile from the lake shore in South Oshawa. And you are right about the lake having a positive effect on my reception. It also has a negative effect as well with fog issues in the spring and fall.
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Ya you would get Buffalo, NY and Rochester, NY no problems.
It performed poorly and we're deeper into a time when reception should be better due to the tree foliage loss.
Like your channel but stop repeating . We know HD / UHF VHF ..
I have to say it in every antenna review because most times the one video of the antenna being reviewed is the only one some people see. It's better to over explain it than to under explain it and someone buy the wrong antenna.
General Electric (GE) is just a name that has been spun off to multiple manufacturers that have little to do with the original GE. And, GE is essentially dead and gone. For many products, "GE" is actually a cheapo Chinese manufacturer.
THIS ANTENNA IS **UTTER RUBBISH!!**