@@icemagiciangh Oh sh*t! Sorry, that's my mistake. For some reason my brain said home when I was typing it out but it is throne. I've fixed it now. Thank you for pointing it out.
Fun fact: most animators for epic choose to model the characters after their voice actors, which is where you get details like Polites wearing glasses despite them not existing yet 😅
I was confused about stuff like Polites wearing glasses (they did not exist back then) and Eurylochus being black (I'm assuming most mediterranean peoples back then were white) until I learnt it was the voice actors and now everything makes so much more sense
Polites is Odysseus’ best friend since childhood. They’ve been in the full 10-year Trojan war together, as well. Polites was trying to break his friend from his warrior mindset since the war ended. Unfortunately, Divine Sugar Mama wasn’t having any of it
The baby is very much dead, yep. And there is a version of the story where his mother (Andromaca, I believe?) actually witnessed it while being restrained by the soldiers. "Full speed ahead" happens once the war is done, but I feel you the whiplash from "I'M KILLING THIS CHILD" to "Yey, I'm gonna see my wife :D" is huge
A yes take the baby away from its home to avoid prophecy, that's the story of Oedipus. He gets sent to another kingdom as a baby because he prophesied to kill his father the King and marry his Mother. Then in the other kingdom once he comes of age (not knowing he is adopted) gets the same prophecy so to avoid that he leaves the new kingdom, ends up back at his orignal kingdom where he unknowingly kills his father, goes on manhunt for the King killer (himself) and marries the Queen (his mother)
Gigi actually re-uploaded their HATI and Just A Man animatics together as one video, and the only difference is that in that video you do actually see him let go of the baby. Cuz by then, unlike when these songs first came out, we do now have confirmation that he did in fact drop the baby.
12:27 that's what Zeus was trying to say to him! No matter what you do if you do not kill this baby he WILL grow up seeking revenge. If you raise him as your own he will know at one point that you killed his parents and not only will he want revenge he would also feel betrayed because the person who raised him lied to him, his whole life would be a lie
The next saga has 4 songs! In order, I'd reccomend- 1. Mircsy - Polyphemus 2. Mircsy - Survive 3. Wolfythewitch - Remember them 4. Wolfythewitch - My Goodbye Honestly, excited to see you react to all the sagas!! Personally, Polites is my favourite character, so I especially can't wait to see what you think of this next one :D
I suggest both for "My Goodbye", Wolfythewitch then Mircsy. I like them both in different ways and they are great depictions of the song. I believe this is the case for multiple songs (for example I have 3 animatics for "Ruthlessness" in my playlist).
Astyanax (the son of Prince Hector) was in fact dropped off of the wall. All of the onlookers were Odysseus’ men. They wouldn’t question him throwing a baby off a wall, as their captain.
@@starlepus9437 While that is true for the crew later on, here he is only one king amongst several. Agamemnon, for example, is actually the king who rallied the other former suitors of Helen to participate in the war against Troy.
In universe knowledge (not spoilers). So, gods can summon choirs. If it’s a human and there are background vocals, that means it has to be the other entities present… Which means his men joined him in on “When does a man become a monster?” as they fought, and he dropped the child. When you hear that reverse audio, it’s Athena pulling Odysseus into what’s called “Quick Thought”. It happens in an instant in normal time, but full conversations can happen in Quick Thought.
Wish we can take the baby (Astanynax) home. But Ancient Greek prophecies are notorious to ALWAYS happen. Often those who try to run from it fall RIGHT into it. Every time. So… sadly…. Ody had to do what he had to do to save his own skin and kin
What happened with athena is called quick thought (one of her abilities): She doesnt stop time per say merely makes your thoughts QUICKER. So this whole song happend in the time it took polities to throw an APPLE. A good indicator that a characters entered been brought into quickthought is that either A) the backround becomes that murky grey we saw here. Or B) it turns into a shade of blue. Though to be fair, she's goes into quick thought every time people are around oddy since she doesnt want them to know.
So when Jorge released "Just a man" I think it wasn't clear if Odysseus dropped the baby, so the animators did not put that in the animatics. It is later revealed thst he indeed killed the kid and I think gigi also has a new version of the animatic where its more clear
Neither mentally, format, or emotionally were you prepared. Strap in. There’s so much behind the scenes, so much much to pay attention to in the music ( _cough_ danger motif), and the instrument for each person. Feel free to ask! We have way too much info to share. No spoilers, of course
Here’s a fun fact: every character has an instrument associated with them. Odysseus’s is the guitar (either acoustic or electric depending on his mood), Penelope has violas, Eurylochus is the voices of the crew, Polites is the drum (I forgot what the specific drum is called) and Athena is piano. You’ll notice other instruments for other character down the line as well
Just to clarify, Warrior of the Mind is the story of how Odysseus and Athena met and became mentor/mentee (emphasis on that, not 'friends'). The whole conversation happened inside Oddyseus's mind in an instant (which you obviously realised at the end), and it was Athena's way of reminding Odysseus not to follow Polites's way of thinking ("greet the world with open arms"). My Goodbye at the end of the Cyclops saga has the same device of an instantaneous conversation between them in Odysseus's mind as well, and its used at least one other time in the series 😊
Awesome! So excited! 3 animatics that I think are especially good are: 1. Polyphemus by Mircsy - The Cyclops design is truely terrifying. 2. The Underworld by Falperio05 - There's a super sweet moment in it that I haven't seen in other animatics. 3. Legendary by Rochi - It has a lot of creative implications like Telemachus sneaking into his room and how Penelope and Telemachus need to be escorted by guards to protect them.
Besides the first, those are a ways away 😂 I do love Fal’s animatic. I’d put in Ximena’s No Longer You. It got my friend and I into the song, and just 10/10
Yes! Such a good choice to go about this by watch per saga instead of per song. So many of them are connected and doing them separately like that can really muck up some of the more impactful moments in the story unless you have the memory of an elephant. Love that you're doing more! Keep up the good work!
My ridiculous continuously updating list, if anyone is interested 😅: TROY Horse and the Infant - Gigi Just a man - Gigi Full Speed Ahead - Mircsy Warrior of the Mind - Mircsy CYCLOPS Polyphemus - Mircsy/Ximena Natzel Survive - Mircsy Remember Them - WolfyTheWitch My Goodbye - WolfyThe Witch OCEAN Storm - Ximena Natzel Luck Runs Out - Crashite Keep Your Friends Close - Gigi Ruthlessness - Gigi/AniFlamma CIRCE Puppeteer - Gigi Wouldn't You Like - Ximena Natzel Done For - AnniFlamma There are Other ways - Gigi/AnniFlamma UNDERWORLD The Underworld - ShiQing47 No Longer You - Ximena Natzel/Gwendy Monster - Gigi THUNDER Suffering - Gigi/Gwendy Different Beast - Duvetbox Scylla - Gigi/Ximena Natzel Mutiny - Riley G Thunder Bringer - Neal Illustrator WISDOM Legandary - Duvetbox Little Wolf - Duvetbox We'll Be Fine - Gigi Love in Paradise - Noir.Hyacinth God Games - Mumder
Baby was indeed yeeted. I'm so happy to see you continuing with this!! Next up is the Cyclops Saga, so here are my recommendations for animatics: -Polyphemus (Mircsy) -Survive (Mircsy) -Remember Them (Wolfythewitch) -My Goodbye (Wolfythewitch) Also, fun fact! There are lots of motifs in this musical, so melodies will be recalled in other songs. One of the big one is the "Danger is Near" Motif, which we've actually heard a few times in this Saga already. I'm curious to see you find it 👀
the doubled section of the conversation with Zeus is as follows (they talk over each other so I get why you didn't catch it) Ody: I could raise him as my own ,Zeus: he will burn your house and throne, Ody: send him far away from home, Zeus: he will find you wherever you go, Ody: make sure his past is never known, the gods will make him known. Ody:I would rather bleed for you I'm on my knees for you I'm begging please, Zuse:IT IS THE WILL OF THE GODS! so yeah he already floated taking the baby as an idea and got told it wouldn't work.
The first horse and the infant reaction made me discover your channel. And I'm so happy I found it! Now I'm a new subscriber excited to see future Epic reactions (and other videos) as well as going back through your past videos :D
Something about you saying “idk if we can get 600 food” cracked me up. Like Ah Yes, I’d like 600 Food Please. No no just 1 Food per man, That’ll be all.
You have totally made my day. I love this so much. I just had all my teeth pulled and was fricken miserable then I seen this and was like YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yesss this was so good. I’m so happy you’re checking out more. Next up is the Cyclops Saga. Also, these last three songs are taking place AFTER the battle of Troy, so after the baby incident. Another fun fact for ya, background vocals are diegetic, meaning that are coming from people. For example, the background vocals on ‘600 men’ are the crew joining in. Only gods and goddesses have the ability to create background vocals without other people singing those vocals. So just keep in mind that if your hearing background vocals it’s either the crew or other people joining in or it’s produced by a god/goddess.
Thank you so much for reacting to the entire saga in 1 video, it’s easier to understand this way. The next saga is the cyclops saga. I would recommend watching Mircsy’s animatics for the first two songs, Polyphemus and Survive. Then watching WolfyTheWitch’s animatics for Remember Them, and My Goodbye. I do have them all in order on my channel but I’ll keep posting in your comments for you 😂 I am really glad your reacting to Epic, been wanting you to do it for months.
Also just a tip, for the first two sagas there is an older version from when jorge was working with a different company who wasn't giving him credit for his work so he remade them. The remakes are basically the same thing but the background vocals and instruments sound a little different you might want to watch the rest in the new versions or go back and start with the new on.
Others have already talked about the infant so I'm just going to say that I'm very happy you're doing this! And by Saga at that-- I think that's a good choice. I'm really looking forward to your thoughts as the story progresses. The three animators you watched in this video were Gigi (pronounced gee-gee), Wolfythewitch, and Mircsy (merchy). Other big-name animators for the fandom include (though not comprehensively) Anniflamma, Ximena Natzel, Gwendy (shoot-- don't remember her channel name), and Crashite. With the Cyclops Saga, I do recommend Mircsy for Survive and Wolfythewitch for Remember Them. I personally would also go with Wolfy for Polyphemus and My Goodbye too, but I think popular opinion is Mircsy for Polyphemus. (I just find an artistic choice of Mircsy's unsettling/confusing for new fans if you start the saga out with Mircsy, though it works very well for Survive.)
You’ve got a subscriber for that. I want to see you watch the next sagas Edit: I just rewatched this and heard you talk about AnniFlamma’s spicy animatic that comes in the 4th saga for the 3rd and 4th song. When it comes to that time I recommend you watch their animatics for those songs.
Cant believe I just realized you reacted to Epic the Musical! Ive been obsessing over this musical recently and im so excited for you to see the rest of the sagas if you choose to react to them! Id be really happy to see it haha, The Circe Saga is my favorite!
Yay, it was really good! Before it was first time, when I wrote the comments under your video. And you started talking about information, what I wrote here! It’s really cool, thank you so much! What I can say more about all the story, what you saw, yeah, he dropped the baby- And the reason, why all of this people down didn’t said anything, because… It’s a War? And they are the soldiers. Interesting detail: If you started be more inside of the moment, the soldiers, on the contrary, began to sing louder at the moment when Odysseus was walking towards the window. They themselves were pushing him more and more towards this moment, the artist conveyed this in colors, in the colors of the flame, the fire that covered everything below. I really was shocked, when I realized that More interesting information: details related to the music and accompaniment, both musical and vocal. Each important character in the story has his own Instrument. For Odysseus, it is a guitar. The sound of the guitar varies because different types of guitars are used for different moments in the story. The soft sound of a nylon guitar, a classical one, shows his closeness to home, his humanity; an electric guitar can be heard during battles, when he is ready for them, or when he is, for example, extremely hostile. For Athena, the instrument is a piano. If you pay attention to the sound of the music, you can even assume not only what is happening around, but also Who may appear on the screen soon. Or who is watching him, who knows? Aaaaand yes, parts of the musical, divided by plot, are called Sagas. The first was the Troy Saga, after that, in Act 1 there are 4 more Sagas: Cyclops Saga, Ocean Saga, Circe Saga and Underworld Saga. There are 4 songs in the Cyclops Saga: Polyphemus, Survive, Remember Them and My Goodbye. For the first two songs you can continue watching mirtci, because this series of animations is so good that it kills the person in me. For the next two, Wolfy's animations will be good, From her was the animation Full Speed Ahead. And one more interesting detail! … You see this child thrown from the wall not for the last time, and not only him- And thank you so much for what you do and for making videos!! I really like your creativity and your reactions, I eagerly check the news on your channel! We love you!!🎉 There is a lot hidden in the details around you.
4:16 So far 7 of the 9 sagas have been released. Theres some possible ways to break the sagas into 2 or 3 chunks if you're looking for smaller snippets of content. Some of the songs just really go from one to the other tho, like the first two lol
So glad to see more of these! :D I wonder what your partner thought was happening with all the baby unaliving comments 😂 Next saga is Cyclops Saga, my suggestions would be: - Polythemus: Animatic by WolfyTheWitch or Mircsy - Survive: Animatic by Mircsy (ties in well with the previous) - Remember Them: Animatic by WolfyTheWitch - My Goodbye: Animatic by WolfyTheWitch Ocean saga: - Storm: Animatic by Ximena - Luck runs out: Animatic by Crashite or Jen - Keep your friends close: Animatic by Gigi - Ruthlesness: Animatic by AnniFlamma or Gigi (Gigi's ties in well with the previous)
I really hope you continue on with the rest of the series! It's so good, I'd love to see your reactions to a lot of the story and songs! Just please be careful, if you see any video that's less than 2 minutes long, it's likely just the 'demo', a lot of people have reacted to them rather than the full song by accident and gotten very confused!
The first animatic made that included Polites had him with the headband and glasses. This was based off of the singer’s appearance and to help differentiate him from the other characters. Since then animators have used the glasses and headband.
There are currently 7 sagas out actually (I forget if the most recent one was out when you posted the last one) plus a few cut songs people have been animating. I would highly recommend listening to Your Light either in a separate video before the next saga, or as the first song when you listen to the Cyclops Saga, as it was originally going to take the place of Open Arms.
Next up is the cyclops saga. I haven’t seen many people actually list the songs so i will. First two songs: Polyphemus Survive (I would recomend you do micsy's animatics for those two. They are amazing) The next two: Remember them My goodbye (For these two i would recomemd going back to Wolfy the Witch. You did their full spead ahead animatic) Loved the reaction. You are in for a good time with this musical, let me tell you
You have no idea how excited I am you are finally reacting to Epic!! It is KILLING ME the wait until the next saga! Please please I need to see you try and cope! ❤
I’m really excited that you’re reacting to this musical! I can’t wait until you get to the later sagas; there are so many fun Easter eggs and call backs . I hope you enjoy it!
YES! I’ve been waiting since your first reaction video for the next one, and you put out the whole saga! Just letting you know that although Zeus and Athena are father and daughter, they work mostly independently from each other and Odysseus is solely Athena’s champion since she is the goddess of War and Zeus intervened just that once in the first song (so far? Maybe?). Anyway, for the next saga (Cyclops) I recommended whishful’s playlist since they picked out every animatic I’d rec myself, it’s another 4 songs, enjoy!
So the only spicy one that I know of in the Series is Anniflamma's Done For and There are other ways. Which I think are the only ones she did for Circe's Saga so you'd have to use a different one for Puppeteer and Wouldn't you like.
Yayyy! ❤️ So glad you love Open Arms, it very much fits your sunshiney vibe 😊 Each significant character has their own musical instrument, so definitely keep an ear out for that, see if you can figure out which ones are which! Sometimes they can change with their moods as well. You definitely don't *need* to know the story, pretty much all the info you need should be in the show itself. There's a lot of behind the scenes and referential information, but you'll get that as it comes up from us 😊❤️
YAY im so glad you decided to do it this way! man, Im realizing I missed your reactions and your fun little commentary :) stay cool dude "Absolutely delightful! What's gonna happen to him? :|" LMAO
I feel like I should mention that all characters in EPIC have their own instrument, so Odysseus has the guitar, Athena the piano etc. It’s a fun way to recognise them but also know what’s happening and who’s doing something! It’s also fun guessing what characters have which instruments :)
My favourite part of "Open Arms" is the snitch-winion that goes "Scary Cave" when they tell Polites about the cave. I like to think he's the one that goes with them
It appears I have been caught while speaking of Anni, aka Anniflamma. Just… remember their name for down the road. You definitely wont forget it if you watch their animatics in the fourth saga XD
It’s still quite a ways away, but somebody re-uploaded the livestream playthrough for the Wisdom Saga when you get there (I’ll probably mention this again after the other sagas since Wisdom is most recent)… You can actually watch the animatics that were commissioned by Jorge and see him reacting to his own music. It’s rather wholesome. When it’s closer to time, I’ll go back and find the person who posted it. It’s just really cool to see what he had in mind when writing the music.
12:28 In the horse and the infant he says that "I can raise it as my own" And you reply "he's going to burn your house down" This is because Odysseus practically killed his family, everyone, and the gods are going to let him know that he did it, Even if he raised you, he took away your mother, your father, your uncles, your life and your nationality, Obviously he's going to be furious
"The Gods play with the lives of men" - Terry Pratchett, Gurads! Guards! This quote would work wonderfully for the role of Gods in Greek epics, especially The Illiad and The Odyssey and it explains their involvement quite well. It's also one of the reasons Odysseus kinda had to listen to what Zeus told him and couldn't do one of his other ideas. "The gods will make him know" and all that. The baby has been yeeted, but you'll never forget about it. Ody sure doesn't 😁 Technically a bit of a spoiler, but that "hydra" isn't a hydra, it's a different monster, but you'll see that in the Thunder Saga. Also the "spikey pit" isn't just ... some place, it's also a monster, one that hasn't yet been officially introduced to EPIC as that Saga hasn't been released yet. All EPIC fans/visual artists have basically mutually agreed to base the characters on the singers, so Odyseuss looks like Jorge and so on. Polites' singer wears glasses, so Polites also has glasses. I love how you heard Open Arms and immediately knew such a wholesome character couldn't have lasted 😂 Btw this song is one that potentially traumatized the whole EPIC fandom more than any other because Jorge likes to milk it for all it's worth. Athena is an owl, because that was her sacred animal in Ancient Greek - also the reason we associate them with wisdom to this day. Also, what she does when she seemingly pauses time only for her and Odysseus is called "Quick-thought", which is basically as the name says; she makes Odysseus' thinking faster than everything around him.
Gigi re-released some of their animatics with the remastered soundtracks. So when Gigi made the original animatic for Just A Man, no one knew for sure if the baby was dropped. The new video shows an outline of the hand opening (to let the infant drop) after the screen goes to black
You were wondering which animators to watch for which saga, here are my suggestions Mircsy (I've heard it pronounced mirchy) cyclops saga Anniflama ocean saga Gigi circe saga And you may have to switch artists for the other sagas depending on the song
more epic let's goooooooooo for the next saga, there's lots of good animatics, but personally, I'd recommend Polyphemus and Survive my mircsy, and Remember Them and My Goodbye by wolfythewitch. glad to see ur already enjoying it ^^
Yes the next saga is the Cyclops saga! Here are all the current sagas out in order : 1- Troy saga 2- Cyclops saga 3- Ocean saga 4- Circe saga 5- Underworld saga 6- Thunder saga 7- Wisdom saga There are 2 sagas left for now
when i started this musical i read the wiki summery of the story. i dont feel like it spoils in the traditional sense bc imo i think some parts of this project does rely on you knowing some details from the original and wont flat out explain to u, so i think knowing the rough outline of the story lets u appreciate some of the Easter eggs and other moments more deeply, both in the music and some of the animator's choices of depiction
Advice for which animatics to watch: watch ALL off Gigi's ones when they show up in the order but make sure they are full length ones cuz she sometimes does clip animatics. I have a playlist I've made of the BEST ones (imo) up to the Thunder saga because most of the best ones are on the livestream they did; th-cam.com/play/PLEwky6eVOxRf7-siACW8yh4kK9yuUOJ7D.html&si=0W1kZmaT3NHa4ZPP
Hey, so I know that this was posted a couple days ago. But let me do a quick breakdown. Every batch of songs is called a saga. Here are all of the sagas in order Troy Saga Cyclops saga Ocean Saga Circe saga Underworld saga Thunder saga Wisdom sage (These ones have yet to be released but are coming soon) Vengance Saga Ithica Saga. The entire musical is based off of the Odyssey. And follows the main character Odysseus as he battles with gods, mythical creatures, And other monstrosities. Such as the pictures that you saw, the first one being a creature known as scylla. The pit actually being a creature called charybdis. And the final one being the eye of the Cyclops. The Cyclops is obviously found in the Cyclops saga, scylla is found in the thunder saga, and caribdis has yet to be seen but will be a main antagonist of the vengeance saga
He unfortunately can't take the baby.
He suggested that to Zeus, and Zeus responded "He will burn your house and throne."
It’s home? I always thought it was “throne” o.o
@@icemagiciangh Oh sh*t! Sorry, that's my mistake. For some reason my brain said home when I was typing it out but it is throne.
I've fixed it now. Thank you for pointing it out.
@@James-nr2hi You were right at first, it's "...your house and throne." Zeus says both.
@@James-nr2hi also I think Zeus said something about the gods telling Astyanax when he's grown about Odysseus killing his parents or parent,
@@Boubi15 No, you see I accidentally put it as "house and home" for some reason and they pointed it out to me
Fun fact: most animators for epic choose to model the characters after their voice actors, which is where you get details like Polites wearing glasses despite them not existing yet 😅
I was confused about stuff like Polites wearing glasses (they did not exist back then) and Eurylochus being black (I'm assuming most mediterranean peoples back then were white) until I learnt it was the voice actors and now everything makes so much more sense
funny thing about it is that I don't even question it, all the Hamilton animetic prepared me for this! lol
@@junovzlaI'm pretty sure most were quite tan from several hours in the sun
@@anonyousperson tan =/= black
@@junovzla tan doesn't equal black tan equals brown I was saying since you said most of them wouldve white
Mattables: I love this hydra here!
Me: *eyes shifting nervously* yes....the hydra....that's exactly that
Put down that torch…
“Give me giants and a hydra!!”
Ody: no. Please. Mrs Scylla was enough
*CARYBDIS NOISES*
“WHAT WAS THAT”
Eurylochus: These torches are so we can see right?
Odysseus: ...
Eurylocus: THESE TORCHES ARE SO WE CAN SEE, RIGHT??
All I can say is watch Mircsy’s animatic for Polyphemus and Survive. My favorite rendition of a certain antagonist I’ve seen so far
Hard agree on that! Then I'd recommend WolfyTheWitch for Remember Them and My Goodbye!
@@echolynn13 Yes! Furthermore, NeaIllustrator for Thunder Bringer, and optionally for Ruthlessness as well.
This
@@SevenRestDays7 The problem with that is the location of that thunderbringer will cause confusion probably
@@Rowan-g5n wait why?
8:07 "Oh please! Give me that baby and I'd yeet it off a tower!" -Perimedes
"What?" -Elpenor
8:10 “Give that baby and I’d yeet it off a tower”
- Perimedes
"What?"
- idk what his name is
- “Dude, I think you have to chuck the baby, man.”
-Matt, 2024
I understood that reference.
-Captain America
100th like, that’s my power 😎
@@Pharaoh_TutankhamenELPENOR
(-the crew)
Polites is Odysseus’ best friend since childhood. They’ve been in the full 10-year Trojan war together, as well. Polites was trying to break his friend from his warrior mindset since the war ended. Unfortunately, Divine Sugar Mama wasn’t having any of it
Mortius watcher identified 🫵
@@thesausageman5388 i was going to say, the nickname is spreading 😄
Now we wait for “Wet Hades” as Mortius’s watchers have probably watch his reactions with Casper. 😂
@@TheBre1491 Casper will never outlive "Wet Hades"
Or Posiren @@Oleandra-13
The baby is very much dead, yep. And there is a version of the story where his mother (Andromaca, I believe?) actually witnessed it while being restrained by the soldiers. "Full speed ahead" happens once the war is done, but I feel you the whiplash from "I'M KILLING THIS CHILD" to "Yey, I'm gonna see my wife :D" is huge
I feel like it would be better wording if you said different animatic instead of different version of the story, but yea that's true
A yes take the baby away from its home to avoid prophecy, that's the story of Oedipus.
He gets sent to another kingdom as a baby because he prophesied to kill his father the King and marry his Mother.
Then in the other kingdom once he comes of age (not knowing he is adopted) gets the same prophecy so to avoid that he leaves the new kingdom, ends up back at his orignal kingdom where he unknowingly kills his father, goes on manhunt for the King killer (himself) and marries the Queen (his mother)
*cough* also Perseus *cough*
Gigi actually re-uploaded their HATI and Just A Man animatics together as one video, and the only difference is that in that video you do actually see him let go of the baby. Cuz by then, unlike when these songs first came out, we do now have confirmation that he did in fact drop the baby.
Also, it uses the new audio
12:27 that's what Zeus was trying to say to him! No matter what you do if you do not kill this baby he WILL grow up seeking revenge. If you raise him as your own he will know at one point that you killed his parents and not only will he want revenge he would also feel betrayed because the person who raised him lied to him, his whole life would be a lie
The next saga has 4 songs! In order, I'd reccomend-
1. Mircsy - Polyphemus
2. Mircsy - Survive
3. Wolfythewitch - Remember them
4. Wolfythewitch - My Goodbye
Honestly, excited to see you react to all the sagas!! Personally, Polites is my favourite character, so I especially can't wait to see what you think of this next one :D
agreed
Second this suggestion list for animatics.
I'd suggest Mircsy for My goodbye as it shows an aspect thats important later on
@@d-won1once959 I prefer Wolfythewitch as it's less flashy and focuses well on the characters' expressions and emotions
I suggest both for "My Goodbye", Wolfythewitch then Mircsy. I like them both in different ways and they are great depictions of the song. I believe this is the case for multiple songs (for example I have 3 animatics for "Ruthlessness" in my playlist).
"Beautiful plan. What if. They're dumb birds. I've met a lot of birds in my life. Not all of them know how to be birds" (v paraphrased)
Well, the fandom knows the guy who’s totally ok with “yeet the baby” dilemma lol 😂 comfort zone and all
I see what you did here 😏
@@xairinimako can’t help it, the words putting in this video is so on point it’s actually hilarious
PERIMEDES!
“Yo captains gone soft, 72 of our dudes are now lost”
The slang is just so funny I can’t T^T
@@Dawn_the_dragon "He hasn't been the same since Troy. I heard he had to kill an evil baby boy..." 😂
Astyanax (the son of Prince Hector) was in fact dropped off of the wall. All of the onlookers were Odysseus’ men. They wouldn’t question him throwing a baby off a wall, as their captain.
he wasnt just their captain. he was also their king
@@starlepus9437 While that is true for the crew later on, here he is only one king amongst several. Agamemnon, for example, is actually the king who rallied the other former suitors of Helen to participate in the war against Troy.
So is Ajax the lesser
In universe knowledge (not spoilers). So, gods can summon choirs. If it’s a human and there are background vocals, that means it has to be the other entities present… Which means his men joined him in on “When does a man become a monster?” as they fought, and he dropped the child.
When you hear that reverse audio, it’s Athena pulling Odysseus into what’s called “Quick Thought”. It happens in an instant in normal time, but full conversations can happen in Quick Thought.
Yes Polites has glasses because the design of the characters are inspired by their singer :)
4:20 just eating well? no, we are *feasting* my friend, this musical is a 5 course all you can eat buffet
You could say... 7, later 9, meal course
@@piroflexia8, currently
Wish we can take the baby (Astanynax) home. But Ancient Greek prophecies are notorious to ALWAYS happen. Often those who try to run from it fall RIGHT into it. Every time. So… sadly…. Ody had to do what he had to do to save his own skin and kin
What happened with athena is called quick thought (one of her abilities):
She doesnt stop time per say merely makes your thoughts QUICKER. So this whole song happend in the time it took polities to throw an APPLE. A good indicator that a characters entered been brought into quickthought is that either A) the backround becomes that murky grey we saw here. Or B) it turns into a shade of blue. Though to be fair, she's goes into quick thought every time people are around oddy since she doesnt want them to know.
So when Jorge released "Just a man" I think it wasn't clear if Odysseus dropped the baby, so the animators did not put that in the animatics. It is later revealed thst he indeed killed the kid and I think gigi also has a new version of the animatic where its more clear
the baby was yeeted, then they started to head back home full speed ahead
NOT THE YEET 😂
Oh my God, did you use picrew for your avatar? I legit made a character on one that looks almost exactly like your profile pic!
Give me that baby and I’ll yeet off a tower
@DParkerNunya ye I did, and neat, I made it a while ago for a dnd campaign,
Neither mentally, format, or emotionally were you prepared. Strap in. There’s so much behind the scenes, so much much to pay attention to in the music ( _cough_ danger motif), and the instrument for each person. Feel free to ask! We have way too much info to share. No spoilers, of course
Danger motif, friendship motif, regret motif, character signature instruments, etc etc
Here’s a fun fact: every character has an instrument associated with them. Odysseus’s is the guitar (either acoustic or electric depending on his mood), Penelope has violas, Eurylochus is the voices of the crew, Polites is the drum (I forgot what the specific drum is called) and Athena is piano. You’ll notice other instruments for other character down the line as well
Polites' instrument from what i heard was a mallet?? 🤔🤔
Don’t forget Athena also has the clock. 😊
Winions, we got another one! (Gotta catch em all!)
Just to clarify, Warrior of the Mind is the story of how Odysseus and Athena met and became mentor/mentee (emphasis on that, not 'friends'). The whole conversation happened inside Oddyseus's mind in an instant (which you obviously realised at the end), and it was Athena's way of reminding Odysseus not to follow Polites's way of thinking ("greet the world with open arms"). My Goodbye at the end of the Cyclops saga has the same device of an instantaneous conversation between them in Odysseus's mind as well, and its used at least one other time in the series 😊
Welcome fellow Winions!
Awesome! So excited! 3 animatics that I think are especially good are:
1. Polyphemus by Mircsy - The Cyclops design is truely terrifying.
2. The Underworld by Falperio05 - There's a super sweet moment in it that I haven't seen in other animatics.
3. Legendary by Rochi - It has a lot of creative implications like Telemachus sneaking into his room and how Penelope and Telemachus need to be escorted by guards to protect them.
Besides the first, those are a ways away 😂 I do love Fal’s animatic. I’d put in Ximena’s No Longer You. It got my friend and I into the song, and just 10/10
Yes! Such a good choice to go about this by watch per saga instead of per song. So many of them are connected and doing them separately like that can really muck up some of the more impactful moments in the story unless you have the memory of an elephant. Love that you're doing more! Keep up the good work!
My ridiculous continuously updating list, if anyone is interested 😅:
TROY
Horse and the Infant - Gigi
Just a man - Gigi
Full Speed Ahead - Mircsy
Warrior of the Mind - Mircsy
CYCLOPS
Polyphemus - Mircsy/Ximena Natzel
Survive - Mircsy
Remember Them - WolfyTheWitch
My Goodbye - WolfyThe Witch
OCEAN
Storm - Ximena Natzel
Luck Runs Out - Crashite
Keep Your Friends Close - Gigi
Ruthlessness - Gigi/AniFlamma
CIRCE
Puppeteer - Gigi
Wouldn't You Like - Ximena Natzel
Done For - AnniFlamma
There are Other ways - Gigi/AnniFlamma
UNDERWORLD
The Underworld - ShiQing47
No Longer You - Ximena Natzel/Gwendy
Monster - Gigi
THUNDER
Suffering - Gigi/Gwendy
Different Beast - Duvetbox
Scylla - Gigi/Ximena Natzel
Mutiny - Riley G
Thunder Bringer - Neal Illustrator
WISDOM
Legandary - Duvetbox
Little Wolf - Duvetbox
We'll Be Fine - Gigi
Love in Paradise - Noir.Hyacinth
God Games - Mumder
That baby is big dead, like, a puddle
Pancakes 🥞
Baby was indeed yeeted.
I'm so happy to see you continuing with this!! Next up is the Cyclops Saga, so here are my recommendations for animatics:
-Polyphemus (Mircsy)
-Survive (Mircsy)
-Remember Them (Wolfythewitch)
-My Goodbye (Wolfythewitch)
Also, fun fact! There are lots of motifs in this musical, so melodies will be recalled in other songs. One of the big one is the "Danger is Near" Motif, which we've actually heard a few times in this Saga already. I'm curious to see you find it 👀
Glad to see you’re watching them together as a saga, better that way so you can remember what happened and catch everything 👍
the doubled section of the conversation with Zeus is as follows (they talk over each other so I get why you didn't catch it)
Ody: I could raise him as my own ,Zeus: he will burn your house and throne,
Ody: send him far away from home, Zeus: he will find you wherever you go,
Ody: make sure his past is never known, the gods will make him known.
Ody:I would rather bleed for you I'm on my knees for you I'm begging please, Zuse:IT IS THE WILL OF THE GODS!
so yeah he already floated taking the baby as an idea and got told it wouldn't work.
the whole saga one video you spoil me, thank you
The first horse and the infant reaction made me discover your channel. And I'm so happy I found it! Now I'm a new subscriber excited to see future Epic reactions (and other videos) as well as going back through your past videos :D
Something about you saying “idk if we can get 600 food” cracked me up. Like Ah Yes, I’d like 600 Food Please. No no just 1 Food per man, That’ll be all.
I mean, AT THE BARE MINIMUM!
@@Mattables what exactly constitutes 1 food to you? Like. 1 slice of bread or like an apple or a piece of jerky orrrrr?
@@pinacolada5911 1 sheep...
You have totally made my day. I love this so much. I just had all my teeth pulled and was fricken miserable then I seen this and was like YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Epic has introduced me to so many good reaction creators
Yesss this was so good. I’m so happy you’re checking out more. Next up is the Cyclops Saga.
Also, these last three songs are taking place AFTER the battle of Troy, so after the baby incident. Another fun fact for ya, background vocals are diegetic, meaning that are coming from people. For example, the background vocals on ‘600 men’ are the crew joining in. Only gods and goddesses have the ability to create background vocals without other people singing those vocals. So just keep in mind that if your hearing background vocals it’s either the crew or other people joining in or it’s produced by a god/goddess.
Thank you so much for reacting to the entire saga in 1 video, it’s easier to understand this way.
The next saga is the cyclops saga. I would recommend watching Mircsy’s animatics for the first two songs, Polyphemus and Survive. Then watching WolfyTheWitch’s animatics for Remember Them, and My Goodbye.
I do have them all in order on my channel but I’ll keep posting in your comments for you 😂 I am really glad your reacting to Epic, been wanting you to do it for months.
Also just a tip, for the first two sagas there is an older version from when jorge was working with a different company who wasn't giving him credit for his work so he remade them. The remakes are basically the same thing but the background vocals and instruments sound a little different you might want to watch the rest in the new versions or go back and start with the new on.
Others have already talked about the infant so I'm just going to say that I'm very happy you're doing this! And by Saga at that-- I think that's a good choice. I'm really looking forward to your thoughts as the story progresses.
The three animators you watched in this video were Gigi (pronounced gee-gee), Wolfythewitch, and Mircsy (merchy). Other big-name animators for the fandom include (though not comprehensively) Anniflamma, Ximena Natzel, Gwendy (shoot-- don't remember her channel name), and Crashite.
With the Cyclops Saga, I do recommend Mircsy for Survive and Wolfythewitch for Remember Them. I personally would also go with Wolfy for Polyphemus and My Goodbye too, but I think popular opinion is Mircsy for Polyphemus. (I just find an artistic choice of Mircsy's unsettling/confusing for new fans if you start the saga out with Mircsy, though it works very well for Survive.)
This musical is such a hidden gem! So excited for these reacts. I listen to these songs on repeat.
You’ve got a subscriber for that. I want to see you watch the next sagas
Edit: I just rewatched this and heard you talk about AnniFlamma’s spicy animatic that comes in the 4th saga for the 3rd and 4th song. When it comes to that time I recommend you watch their animatics for those songs.
I love that the Odessy isn't about good and evil but about being human
Cant believe I just realized you reacted to Epic the Musical! Ive been obsessing over this musical recently and im so excited for you to see the rest of the sagas if you choose to react to them! Id be really happy to see it haha, The Circe Saga is my favorite!
Yay, it was really good! Before it was first time, when I wrote the comments under your video. And you started talking about information, what I wrote here! It’s really cool, thank you so much!
What I can say more about all the story, what you saw, yeah, he dropped the baby-
And the reason, why all of this people down didn’t said anything, because… It’s a War? And they are the soldiers.
Interesting detail: If you started be more inside of the moment, the soldiers, on the contrary, began to sing louder at the moment when Odysseus was walking towards the window. They themselves were pushing him more and more towards this moment, the artist conveyed this in colors, in the colors of the flame, the fire that covered everything below. I really was shocked, when I realized that
More interesting information: details related to the music and accompaniment, both musical and vocal. Each important character in the story has his own Instrument. For Odysseus, it is a guitar. The sound of the guitar varies because different types of guitars are used for different moments in the story. The soft sound of a nylon guitar, a classical one, shows his closeness to home, his humanity; an electric guitar can be heard during battles, when he is ready for them, or when he is, for example, extremely hostile. For Athena, the instrument is a piano. If you pay attention to the sound of the music, you can even assume not only what is happening around, but also Who may appear on the screen soon. Or who is watching him, who knows?
Aaaaand yes, parts of the musical, divided by plot, are called Sagas. The first was the Troy Saga, after that, in Act 1 there are 4 more Sagas: Cyclops Saga, Ocean Saga, Circe Saga and Underworld Saga.
There are 4 songs in the Cyclops Saga: Polyphemus, Survive, Remember Them and My Goodbye.
For the first two songs you can continue watching mirtci, because this series of animations is so good that it kills the person in me. For the next two, Wolfy's animations will be good, From her was the animation Full Speed Ahead.
And one more interesting detail! … You see this child thrown from the wall not for the last time, and not only him-
And thank you so much for what you do and for making videos!! I really like your creativity and your reactions, I eagerly check the news on your channel! We love you!!🎉
There is a lot hidden in the details around you.
Yesss the sagaaaa. LETS GO WINIONS!!
4:16 So far 7 of the 9 sagas have been released. Theres some possible ways to break the sagas into 2 or 3 chunks if you're looking for smaller snippets of content. Some of the songs just really go from one to the other tho, like the first two lol
LETSGOOOOOOOOO Im glad ya did this as sagas! Great video!!!
I think that this is the defenition of reacting to media properly and i love it
This honestly might be one of the best reactions i’ve seen. New subscriber for this. Please do the next saga soon!
So glad to see more of these! :D I wonder what your partner thought was happening with all the baby unaliving comments 😂
Next saga is Cyclops Saga, my suggestions would be:
- Polythemus: Animatic by WolfyTheWitch or Mircsy
- Survive: Animatic by Mircsy (ties in well with the previous)
- Remember Them: Animatic by WolfyTheWitch
- My Goodbye: Animatic by WolfyTheWitch
Ocean saga:
- Storm: Animatic by Ximena
- Luck runs out: Animatic by Crashite or Jen
- Keep your friends close: Animatic by Gigi
- Ruthlesness: Animatic by AnniFlamma or Gigi (Gigi's ties in well with the previous)
I really hope you continue on with the rest of the series! It's so good, I'd love to see your reactions to a lot of the story and songs!
Just please be careful, if you see any video that's less than 2 minutes long, it's likely just the 'demo', a lot of people have reacted to them rather than the full song by accident and gotten very confused!
31:23 😂 NOT letting it get to his head, suure
So happy to see another person reacting to my fav musical! Welcome to the EPIC community! :D
22:44 I laughed so hard at this. Open Arms is such a happy, feel good song, it’s one of my favorites in the whole musical
Absolutely watch more! All of them please! Loving your Vox Machina content too!
The first animatic made that included Polites had him with the headband and glasses. This was based off of the singer’s appearance and to help differentiate him from the other characters. Since then animators have used the glasses and headband.
There are currently 7 sagas out actually (I forget if the most recent one was out when you posted the last one) plus a few cut songs people have been animating. I would highly recommend listening to Your Light either in a separate video before the next saga, or as the first song when you listen to the Cyclops Saga, as it was originally going to take the place of Open Arms.
I sense a certain rawr rawr in this comment
… I approve
I'm so happy to see more people react to this. It's well worth it and has so much packed in
Next up is the cyclops saga. I haven’t seen many people actually list the songs so i will.
First two songs:
Polyphemus
Survive
(I would recomend you do micsy's animatics for those two. They are amazing)
The next two:
Remember them
My goodbye
(For these two i would recomemd going back to Wolfy the Witch. You did their full spead ahead animatic)
Loved the reaction. You are in for a good time with this musical, let me tell you
You have no idea how excited I am you are finally reacting to Epic!! It is KILLING ME the wait until the next saga! Please please I need to see you try and cope! ❤
“what if.. they’re very STUPID birds..?” KILLED ME HAHA
4:12 there is 8 saga’s now, the latest came out on Halloween ( he has a reputation for releasing them on holidays)
I’m really excited that you’re reacting to this musical! I can’t wait until you get to the later sagas; there are so many fun Easter eggs and call backs . I hope you enjoy it!
YES! I’ve been waiting since your first reaction video for the next one, and you put out the whole saga! Just letting you know that although Zeus and Athena are father and daughter, they work mostly independently from each other and Odysseus is solely Athena’s champion since she is the goddess of War and Zeus intervened just that once in the first song (so far? Maybe?). Anyway, for the next saga (Cyclops) I recommended whishful’s playlist since they picked out every animatic I’d rec myself, it’s another 4 songs, enjoy!
im soooo glad you're reacting to this series. Your reactions always brings me joy. Please keep on going !!! ❤❤❤
you don't beg forgiveness if you don't do the bad thing. enlessly repeating FORGIVE ME! probably doesn't indicate letting the baby live
So the only spicy one that I know of in the Series is Anniflamma's Done For and There are other ways. Which I think are the only ones she did for Circe's Saga so you'd have to use a different one for Puppeteer and Wouldn't you like.
Yayyy! ❤️ So glad you love Open Arms, it very much fits your sunshiney vibe 😊
Each significant character has their own musical instrument, so definitely keep an ear out for that, see if you can figure out which ones are which! Sometimes they can change with their moods as well.
You definitely don't *need* to know the story, pretty much all the info you need should be in the show itself. There's a lot of behind the scenes and referential information, but you'll get that as it comes up from us 😊❤️
YAY im so glad you decided to do it this way!
man, Im realizing I missed your reactions and your fun little commentary :) stay cool dude
"Absolutely delightful!
What's gonna happen to him? :|"
LMAO
I feel like I should mention that all characters in EPIC have their own instrument, so Odysseus has the guitar, Athena the piano etc. It’s a fun way to recognise them but also know what’s happening and who’s doing something! It’s also fun guessing what characters have which instruments :)
"ill kill a baby" -Mattables (circa. 2024, colorized)
My favourite part of "Open Arms" is the snitch-winion that goes "Scary Cave" when they tell Polites about the cave. I like to think he's the one that goes with them
I just realized... ARE THESE THE OG AUDIO RECORDINGS?
It appears I have been caught while speaking of Anni, aka Anniflamma. Just… remember their name for down the road. You definitely wont forget it if you watch their animatics in the fourth saga XD
I mean I did cry a couple times while listening to the other sagas but I'd definetly would watch your reactions on them
OH MY GOS SO EXCITED i wanted you to watch epic it is so great !! hope u'll love the journey ! :)) (hello from france by the way)
AHHHHHHH THIS IS THE REACTION I NEEDED FOR EPIC ❤
"Absolutely delightful!!! 🥰.... whats gonna happen to him? 😑"
🤣🤣🤣🥴🥴🥴
It’s still quite a ways away, but somebody re-uploaded the livestream playthrough for the Wisdom Saga when you get there (I’ll probably mention this again after the other sagas since Wisdom is most recent)… You can actually watch the animatics that were commissioned by Jorge and see him reacting to his own music. It’s rather wholesome. When it’s closer to time, I’ll go back and find the person who posted it. It’s just really cool to see what he had in mind when writing the music.
I’m so excited! Absolutely would love for you to continue
12:28 In the horse and the infant he says that "I can raise it as my own" And you reply "he's going to burn your house down"
This is because Odysseus practically killed his family, everyone, and the gods are going to let him know that he did it, Even if he raised you, he took away your mother, your father, your uncles, your life and your nationality, Obviously he's going to be furious
"The Gods play with the lives of men" - Terry Pratchett, Gurads! Guards!
This quote would work wonderfully for the role of Gods in Greek epics, especially The Illiad and The Odyssey and it explains their involvement quite well.
It's also one of the reasons Odysseus kinda had to listen to what Zeus told him and couldn't do one of his other ideas. "The gods will make him know" and all that.
The baby has been yeeted, but you'll never forget about it. Ody sure doesn't 😁
Technically a bit of a spoiler, but that "hydra" isn't a hydra, it's a different monster, but you'll see that in the Thunder Saga.
Also the "spikey pit" isn't just ... some place, it's also a monster, one that hasn't yet been officially introduced to EPIC as that Saga hasn't been released yet.
All EPIC fans/visual artists have basically mutually agreed to base the characters on the singers, so Odyseuss looks like Jorge and so on. Polites' singer wears glasses, so Polites also has glasses.
I love how you heard Open Arms and immediately knew such a wholesome character couldn't have lasted 😂
Btw this song is one that potentially traumatized the whole EPIC fandom more than any other because Jorge likes to milk it for all it's worth.
Athena is an owl, because that was her sacred animal in Ancient Greek - also the reason we associate them with wisdom to this day.
Also, what she does when she seemingly pauses time only for her and Odysseus is called "Quick-thought", which is basically as the name says; she makes Odysseus' thinking faster than everything around him.
Currently Epic has 7 sagas out now, but we still have 2 more to come out. But we have 5 in the first act and 4 I believe in act 2.
Gigi re-released some of their animatics with the remastered soundtracks.
So when Gigi made the original animatic for Just A Man, no one knew for sure if the baby was dropped. The new video shows an outline of the hand opening (to let the infant drop) after the screen goes to black
So happy to see you reacting to Epic!
Please do the rest, I love seeing people get into EPIC!
You were wondering which animators to watch for which saga, here are my suggestions
Mircsy (I've heard it pronounced mirchy) cyclops saga
Anniflama ocean saga
Gigi circe saga
And you may have to switch artists for the other sagas depending on the song
Oh it absolutely went to his head, he mad values his wits so much its bordering hubris as you will come to find in later sagas
more epic let's goooooooooo
for the next saga, there's lots of good animatics, but personally, I'd recommend Polyphemus and Survive my mircsy, and Remember Them and My Goodbye by wolfythewitch. glad to see ur already enjoying it ^^
It may be controversial, but I HIGHLY recommend:
Polyphemus by WolfyTheWitch
and
My Goodbye by Mircsy
Yes the next saga is the Cyclops saga!
Here are all the current sagas out in order :
1- Troy saga
2- Cyclops saga
3- Ocean saga
4- Circe saga
5- Underworld saga
6- Thunder saga
7- Wisdom saga
There are 2 sagas left for now
14:06 STOP IM HONESTLY SICK RN AND I MOUTHED “DID YOU DROP IT DID YOU TAKE IT WHATTTTT”
when i started this musical i read the wiki summery of the story. i dont feel like it spoils in the traditional sense bc imo i think some parts of this project does rely on you knowing some details from the original and wont flat out explain to u, so i think knowing the rough outline of the story lets u appreciate some of the Easter eggs and other moments more deeply, both in the music and some of the animator's choices of depiction
Advice for which animatics to watch: watch ALL off Gigi's ones when they show up in the order but make sure they are full length ones cuz she sometimes does clip animatics.
I have a playlist I've made of the BEST ones (imo) up to the Thunder saga because most of the best ones are on the livestream they did;
th-cam.com/play/PLEwky6eVOxRf7-siACW8yh4kK9yuUOJ7D.html&si=0W1kZmaT3NHa4ZPP
Have you seen an artist named Falperio’s version of The Underworld yet?
Can't wait to see you react to more of EPIC and the animatics!
Hey, so I know that this was posted a couple days ago. But let me do a quick breakdown. Every batch of songs is called a saga. Here are all of the sagas in order
Troy Saga
Cyclops saga
Ocean Saga
Circe saga
Underworld saga
Thunder saga
Wisdom sage
(These ones have yet to be released but are coming soon)
Vengance Saga
Ithica Saga.
The entire musical is based off of the Odyssey. And follows the main character Odysseus as he battles with gods, mythical creatures, And other monstrosities. Such as the pictures that you saw, the first one being a creature known as scylla. The pit actually being a creature called charybdis. And the final one being the eye of the Cyclops. The Cyclops is obviously found in the Cyclops saga, scylla is found in the thunder saga, and caribdis has yet to be seen but will be a main antagonist of the vengeance saga