I have never understood why the courts don’t just give all the evidence to the jury to look at whatever they want to. I think it should be literally given to them to sift through and reexamine. I know nay sayers will say “it’s too much material” but that doesn’t stop my belief.
Made me cry for the first time. My heart aches for justice. Those precious angels deserve it. I am praying Lauren so hard rn. If the jury sets him free and evidence comes up later that shows without doubt he was telling the truth in his confessions, he can not be tried again (double jeopardy prevents that for those who don't know) if an innocent man is convicted he can appeal and enough evidence would set him free, but I couldn't based on everything consciously set him free of fear he would repeat this again. I just couldn't do it. To much weighs against him from his own mouth and his lies, and the timeline walk through. 😢 these jurors I do not envy, this is weighing heavy on their hearts as well, it has to be. What a rough ride this case has been.
There's a small community of us that's been here since the girls were just missing and we are praying diligently for justice for Abby and Libby!!!. Thank you Lauren for all your work and the sacrifices you've made to be there so we dont have too. 😊
@@moonchild7542 I have been following Libby & Abby’s case since day one! May not have been on this channel am new to it. We all may not agree on who did this to the girls, but we are all passionate about this case and I feel we “all” want Justice to prevail for the girls and their families. We all want the person (s) to be imprisoned who took Libertys and Abby’s lives🙏🏼♥️🕊️🌹🕊️♥️🕊️🌹🕯️🕯️
A guy confessed 62 times and placed himself on the bridge with the exact clothes, posture, voice, gun, car. Are you telling me an identical guy was there at the exact same time?? Nah. "No mom, I did it"
These were the two things Rossi said in his closing argument for the jury to pay close attention to: *The interview with Holeman *Libby’s video I think they are going through each argument methodically - in my opinion
Thank you, Lauren, for the update! I'm glad they are being so thorough and not making such a decision based on feelings. It shows responsibility to do what they're doing. This is what makes our judicial system work ♥
Thank you for the info! Much appreciated. Just a little ask as well, if you can, please stand still when speaking. The swinging around of your phone creates dizziness. Thanks for your consideration. Your work on reporting this case has been awesome! Fingers crossed for a verdict today! ❤
She's probably trying not to freeze to the spot. I've noticed pretty much all the live creators outside the court do it. I tend to listen, looking up now and again. That works well.
I could never. There's way too much reasonable doubt!! I pray there are people there who will stick to their convictions if they feel he is not guilty. I pray they do not relent if there are people who are pushing a guilty verdict. The man had NO criminal history and for his first time he commits a ritualistic murder of not one but two teenaged girls? No way.
I love how Lauren, when on location, always naturally makes friends and allies! Makes sense to me because of all the Lauren things she does lol! Inevitably, she ends up getting hooked up with so many cool people, some of whom end up collaborating with. It's like we get exponential info because she's such a sweetie pie! We love you Lauren, thank you for all you do, you're killing it as usual!
Thank you Lauren for the updates. We are all on pins and needles waiting, wondering & praying for justice for beautiful Abby, Libby and their families. Verdict today or not 🩷
Beautiful Abby and Libby’s families are all I’m thinking about right now. I can’t begin to know how they have endured this. Praying they find some peace.
Libby wanted to solve crimes. Libby was so brave to take those pics and I hope like hell these Jurors watch her video and discover that, as scared as we all know those girls were she still took pictures of Richard Allen kidnapping them. Libby and Abby have become all of our little girls. My heart goes out to all there families. Lots of love to you Lauren❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I’m nor is jury voice specialists so I hope they aren’t trying to compare voices to be main determination of verdict. Imo this should be not guilty verdict or hung jury 🤷🏼♀️ TY for all who are covering this and showing as much transparency as possible and I will keep praying for Delphi community for healing ❤️🩹 and Justice 🙏🏻🫶🏻
If that is the evidence the jury asked for, I'm thinking that they're comparing the 2 voices from the 2 videos and Richard Allen's appearance at that time. My guess is that the majority already believes in his guilt and perhaps those who are undecided need to see confirmation with their own eyes. I think he's guilty, and I believe it will be a guilty verdict.
I hope you're right..I just hope it's not at a point where none of the other things mattered, they just want to go by that fuzzy stupid video that no one can tell what it is. who it is. If ppl will put that video over 63 confessions..idk what to tell em. smh
Interesting point you are making. I can see what you are saying. I like the different approaches, w/o the attack of course. Today everyone seems to be more respectful which is great. 😊
My immediate response to he had the “right” to be in the courtroom today .. The judges and prosecutor haven’t given a crap about this guy’s rights for years. I don’t know if he’s guilty or not but they certainly didn’t prove it in this trial. I do pray for these jurors. What a terrible position to be put in.
@@murphysmith3406 hes held in jail just like anyone else guess what jail isnt fun place to be plus he has to be held im solitary, protective custody which is solitary because nature of crime inmates aren just waiting to get to him hopefully in prison they do
What do you believe on the evidence? I’m not a troll and if anyone attacks or is rude, I’ll follow up. I have a TBI and can’t remember all the facts. 🌿
@HiddenTrueCrime Lauren I just wanted to say thank you. I hope you know that we have your back and you should feel safe in whatever conclusion you come to. People have gone absolutely wild and it’s starting to P me off actually. Thank you to you and Dr John for all of your hard work, and reporting this trial to us. You are appreciated. And your voice your opinions are valid.
I'm with you Lia. The prosecution hasn't proven their case. For each piece of evidence the state presented, the defence has more than raised reasonable doubt for. Not guilty. ❤ to you from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
Lauren, this case has been difficult for you. Here in the Southeast, we say, “Bless your heart!” At a cloudy, 70 degrees here in northeast Georgia, I feel cold just watching you and my lips feel chapped just looking at yours. Bless your heart, once again!! Saying a prayer for you. Love you!!
I just find it very odd that the psychiatrist who SAYS that RA confessed to those things that nobody but the killer would know recorded everything except that confession. it was only written in the file. I wonder if people understand how easy it would be to implant false memories into someone in psychosis. Not to mention that doctor straight up lied and said something completely different in his previous finding than he did in court. RA's defense should have called that out. He also confessed to murdering his family members who are still alive and SA'ing his sister and daughter which they deny. Defense didn't bring that in either. I firmly beieve those confessions, if they happpened, were told to him and he repeated it. The timeline doesn't work either. No witnesses, no DNA, no proof regarding the bullet, nobody pointed him out in the courtroom as bridge guy. Sadly my faith in jurors has tanked in recent years. i pray that another innoceent man is not found guilty.
The psychiatrist for the state who conveniently changed his testimony for trial from what it was prior to trial. Also a funny thing he didn't record this so called confession with details that only the killer would know. RA confessed to killing his family membmers who ae clearly still alive. He confessed to SA against his daughter and sister, both of whom said it never happened. There is no concrete evidence whatsoever linking him to this crime. No dna, no fingerprints, no eyewitnesses, no proof he is bridge guy. Nothing, except the word of a psychiatrist who has already proven himself a liar!
Makes sense. I always said when they asked in interrogation if that was him in picture, instead of saying that’s not me he said if that is from the girl’s phone it couldn’t be him, he never saw the girl’s. That always seemed suspect. Is it you or not?
Yes this makes me VERY suspicious of him too. That would mean he's seen this video/pic in the media all these years and never went to the cops and said "hey that's me, why are you saying this is the killer??" He didn't say no that's not me. I'd like to see a transcript of that video and his exact words. Also, no innocent man accused of butchering little girls says "arrest me or let me go". An Innocent man wouldn't want to be associated in any way. I'm leaning toward guilty, he didn't act alone, and the other killer/s know someone.
Exactly right, it looks pretty close to him, he placed himself at scene. Had same type gun, similar car to his seen on video, plus the confession last and even more
I am glad the jury is being thorough and going back to evidence so they get it right. I know they would rather spend the weekend at home but I respect their due diligence.
Lauren, God bless you and Dr. John and your entire family. Thank you for your commitment to covering this case, especially under such difficult circumstances. You are a hero. My family and I love you and your family, and we truly appreciate all your hard work & sacrifices. Stay strong.
@@mcf.fontanez It was arguably for his safety because the case’s notoriety would’ve made Allen a target in general population. The problem is that it also exacerbated his preexisting mental instability.
It's been discussed for hours and hours during the trial. I suggest you go back and listen to the reporting of the trial, that will give you some insight into the reasoning for it.
For those who think he was tortured in prison, just where do you think he should have been kept? He was su*cidal. The county jail has the same small cell for those on su*cide watch as the prison. The county jail doesn’t have enough employees to safekeep him around the clock. They don’t have a therapist able to see him daily. Just where is he supposed to go where he would be safe from himself and safe from others wanting to harm him?
I’ve been following this since it happened. I just don’t understand how even with Libby’s evidence, this case is not solved. Praying the jury rules correctly and there’s justice for Abby and Libby!❤🙏🏻❤
I was watching Day 2 from Aspen Conner and lol he’s in the gazebo & I chuckled thinking about your previous live and the court yard gazebo 😂❤ I subscribed to him. 👍🏼
I guess no one on this live has ever heard of someone confessing to a crime they did not commit? I cant count on 2 hands how many times LE have accused someone unfounded and forced them to confess especially those who are mentally challenged...so sad...justice isnt what it is suppose to be ... you either want the truth or you dont...do none of you want justice for these girls? If these were my daughter i would be exceptionally ticked off knowing that this was all they had!!!! I wouldnt be able to sleep at night thinking they had the wrong guy the whole time and that their killer is still free
@@HeidiFredFabWell, RA confessed to killing his wife and family but they are still alive. Why believe confessing to the mùrders of the girls if we know his confessions about his family were false?
When I saw the bridge guy video for the first time I said “Libby you are a smart brave intuitive young lady and YOU will be the reason this guy is going to be captured and put away for the rest of his pathetic life” RIP sweet girls 🙏🙏
Oh my Goodness. Thank you Lauren. I was feeling like the original interrogation video and the sound of the man on the Bridge did not match. I made that connection this week! Glad to hear jury is considering that as well!
@ yes. I thought it sounded like the man who owned the land based on his news interviews. Also, he was wearing the same blue jacket during the interview as the man on the bridge. Not sure what the jury will think, considering all of the evidence, that I am not privy to.
Plunder, has a video of Richard Allen and his wife on a ski lift, only not in snow but greenery. Well her voice is too loud and his is faint. I asked Gray Hues to edit it, just his voice compared to bridge guy. Gray Hues didn’t. But from my few listening to it, it sounds like him and yet it doesn’t. That’s why I say that that guy, who listened to seven hundred phone calls should have gleaned that, pulled out the good ones, looped it, and the comparison, for the jury. How hard could that have been?
@ alwayshavestrengthjoy7450, I have not made a comparison to Weber, but my thinking is this, everybody’s region or area will have an accent or way of talking, stuff like that. You know, like some people have southern accents. So when I made a comparison, it seemed like Richard Allen and bridge guys voices had the same accent and softness but not the same voice. Strange huh? So I thought to myself well that could be explained away as a regional habit of speaking. I’m not for or against. I’m just saying.
"i, i feel like we might because i just feel like, they probably need, you know, two and a half hours to go over this evidence, itll, its probably, you know richard allen arrived this morning, theyre probably, maybe maybe this will do it right absolutely breath taking reporting from the scene
There’s not enough clear evidence and 0 DNA evidence. DNA evidence doesn’t account for everything and there’s ways to get rid of DNA evidence but in this case particularly I think it’s too risky to find this man guilty, especially with the history of wrongful convictions we’ve had. He admitted guilt they say but that man looks traumatized and he’s been held in solitary confinement so it’s not surprising at all that he would admit to something he didn’t do. No one to blame except the detectives and investigators in this case they really screwed this one up. I hope the girls and their family get justice they deserve and I hope no one innocent pays for something they didn’t do due to lazy and unclear investigations. This is a not guilty.
@@cjr9298 looks traumatized yeah turns out being in jail in solitary or protective custody does that to some than no one held in jail should ever be found guilty crazy logic
Do you not think it's odd that the picture of Abby that they took on the bridge is gone off the phone but then again the bridge guy video is still there.
Great work, Lauren. I have followed your channel for a long time and added Adens. I wish I could afford to join, but budget can't afford it right now. I agree with John's take on things and enjoy his giving both sides of things.
I read the longer a deliberation vs shorter cannot determine outcome although many say the longer brings back a not guilty. After researching more, these are merely opinions and statistical surveys cannot confirm either..
I’ve always thought that it was going to come down to the simple fact that he was on the bridge that day, dressed in the same clothes. And they have him on video. Take away all the noise and confusion… what are the chances that some guy that sounds like him, looks like him, and was dressed like him happened to be there the same day?
I agree and I find it curious that RA says he didn't see the girls that day and he didn't report seeing anyone matching the description of BridgeGuy. Could that be because he is Bridge Guy? I say he is Bridge Guy. He killed those girls and there are people making "I love you" signs for him. Absurd!
Hey way to go out there I have a small TH-cam channel called Richard and ruby just me and my dog serching for the missing every day just wanted to say great job keep the big heart up you go girl 🩵🫶🏻🩵🫶🏻🩵
The only issue I have is they question his ability to be mentally stable enough to confess, but here he is with the right to be in the court room when evidence is being looked at. I realize it's been year's, but if his mental health declined that badly over time he'd be less aware what things mean now compared to when he confessed. Not saying he did or didn't do it but that just doesn't make any sense!
Definitely going to Check out Aspen. Thank you again for the Update. My gut is telling me hung Jury. I’m lost at this point. Prayers for Abby & Libby’s Family. 🙏🏻
I leave it in the jury's hands and trust they know what they are doing, and PLEASE EVERYONE let's keep the comments kind, being nasty to one another is not helpful.
Unpopular opinion, I am a Richard Allen supporter, I was born and raised 30 mi from Delphi,the authorities in that little town was corrupt when I was younger and still is❗️ I know people want Justice for Abby and Libby and so do I however finding Richard Allen guilty is not going to find Justice for them because he did not do it without a doubt in my mind.
Ik not from there but experienced the police there while helping a female friend in a custody battle. I work for police. We were followed all the way out of town. They didnt knw who i was. They are definitely corrupt there
You’re right - unpopular opinion. The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. The dude desperately and calmly confessed to trusted loved ones (not while being brow beaten) to unburden himself. When they denied him that much needed catharsis - he spiraled. No way there were two men built like him, dressed like him, and carrying a gun on that bridge at the SAME TIME RA said he was there - and the same time BG was there. If he’s so innocent, why didn’t he report innocently seeing Abby and Libby while he was watching fish on the high bridge? The facts are all right there. Pretty simple.
Thanks so much for your very informative updates and coverage of this case. I hope justice is found and the girls can finally rest in peace and community begin to heal.
@@The2thfairyso 60 plus confessions over months that weren't done under diress or during psychotic breaks, a bullet that cycled from his gun, the fact he looks, sounds and was dressed exactly like BG, the fact he was placed there a the exact time line of the crime wasn't enough? One confession can often convict let alone 60 plus. Libby did all she could do to show us who did this and she did a great job.
I have never understood why the courts don’t just give all the evidence to the jury to look at whatever they want to. I think it should be literally given to them to sift through and reexamine. I know nay sayers will say “it’s too much material” but that doesn’t stop my belief.
Digital evidence can be put on a computer in the jury room with that being the only thing accessible on that computer
They don't want a bunch of hands on evidence in case of a retrial etc. That's my thoughts.
It's because the lawyers and defendant need to know what specific evidence is being asked for and looked at. All for due process.
It says to me they are really trying to get this right which is good.
Because the defendant needs to be present when ever jurors looks at it? And what everyone else said
Gave me chills when you said “Well done, Libby…”. Praying for justice.
Made me cry for the first time. My heart aches for justice. Those precious angels deserve it. I am praying Lauren so hard rn. If the jury sets him free and evidence comes up later that shows without doubt he was telling the truth in his confessions, he can not be tried again (double jeopardy prevents that for those who don't know) if an innocent man is convicted he can appeal and enough evidence would set him free, but I couldn't based on everything consciously set him free of fear he would repeat this again. I just couldn't do it. To much weighs against him from his own mouth and his lies, and the timeline walk through. 😢 these jurors I do not envy, this is weighing heavy on their hearts as well, it has to be. What a rough ride this case has been.
Agree! At the end I think justice is going to be served thanks to Libby's video. She is the real hero in this horrible case! I really hope so!
Brave little girls 😢 Wish they could've escaped 💔😭
Honestly I don't think Beyond a reasonable doubt has been proven. I believe there is too much reasonable doubt to find a Guilty verdict😢
Sooo true! What a smart quick thinking young lady! 🥺
There's a small community of us that's been here since the girls were just missing and we are praying diligently for justice for Abby and Libby!!!. Thank you Lauren for all your work and the sacrifices you've made to be there so we dont have too. 😊
@@moonchild7542 SAME HERE
@@moonchild7542 I have been following Libby & Abby’s case since day one! May not have been on this channel am new to it.
We all may not agree on who did this to the girls, but we are all passionate about this case and I feel we “all” want Justice to prevail for the girls and their families.
We all want the person (s) to be imprisoned who took Libertys and Abby’s lives🙏🏼♥️🕊️🌹🕊️♥️🕊️🌹🕯️🕯️
This is a very DIFFICULT case for this JURY. PRAYERS
Not difficult. Just ask Kelsi who did it.
@@paddyb456 🙄
A guy confessed 62 times and placed himself on the bridge with the exact clothes, posture, voice, gun, car.
Are you telling me an identical guy was there at the exact same time?? Nah.
"No mom, I did it"
@paddyb456 you are sick. You need to speak to someone about your mental health
@@MegaTinnihe was tortured and had a mental breakdown from being treated so terribly
These were the two things Rossi said in his closing argument for the jury to pay close attention to:
*The interview with Holeman
*Libby’s video
I think they are going through each argument methodically - in my opinion
Oo good point!! Praying for not guilty!
@@laniakea2162 I thought that too! but I think he's guilty. Hopefully the jury can see through the smoke and mirrors.
If you are so conflicted and sticking to the principle of beyond any reasonable doubt, it should be a Not Guilty verdict if it follows the law
Girl, you got us covered so well; thank you very much for your consistent updates.
Thank you, Lauren, for the update! I'm glad they are being so thorough and not making such a decision based on feelings. It shows responsibility to do what they're doing. This is what makes our judicial system work ♥
Yes!
Goosebumps..Libbys video! Bravo Libby 👏
Dear Lauren,
Thank you for standing outside in the cold and for everyone feeding this lady.
Justice for Abby and Libby RIP
Aspen brought is snacks and drinks in the wee night hours two wks ago ❤. Thank you Lauren for sharing his channel and for your thorough coverage.
Thank you for the on the spot updates. Much appreciated.
State has the burden of proof. Jurors asking to review evidence again is a sign they're not convinced and need to reevaluate the evidence.
Yep
Yep. They want to see it and interpret it for themselves, rather than just taking the prosecution (and the defence) at their word.
Thank you, sweetie, for all you and Dr. John does for all of your gems. I have to say that of your little one as well. 🦋🦋🦋
Aspen is awesome. Such a sweet man that's put out some really good content on bringing attention to Abby & Libbu❤🙏
*Sorry, sweet Libby
Thank you for the info! Much appreciated. Just a little ask as well, if you can, please stand still when speaking. The swinging around of your phone creates dizziness. Thanks for your consideration. Your work on reporting this case has been awesome! Fingers crossed for a verdict today! ❤
She's probably trying not to freeze to the spot. I've noticed pretty much all the live creators outside the court do it. I tend to listen, looking up now and again. That works well.
@@Peel420Great idea, I'll do that. Thanks!
Your not alone I'm so confused and idk if as a jury member i could find him guilty. My gut is telling me something is just off about this whole case
Yeah, A FEW PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED.
I could never. There's way too much reasonable doubt!!
I pray there are people there who will stick to their convictions if they feel he is not guilty. I pray they do not relent if there are people who are pushing a guilty verdict.
The man had NO criminal history and for his first time he commits a ritualistic murder of not one but two teenaged girls? No way.
I agree
Until I read the transcripts idk
He admitted it! Good God
I love how Lauren, when on location, always naturally makes friends and allies! Makes sense to me because of all the Lauren things she does lol! Inevitably, she ends up getting hooked up with so many cool people, some of whom end up collaborating with. It's like we get exponential info because she's such a sweetie pie! We love you Lauren, thank you for all you do, you're killing it as usual!
Thank You Legendary Lauren, our little ROCKSTAR!!
Lauren, you are the best! Thank you for your dedication to reporting and giving us the latest updates!
Thank you for keeping us updated!!👍
Thank you Lauren for the updates. We are all on pins and needles waiting, wondering & praying for justice for beautiful Abby, Libby and their families. Verdict today or not 🩷
Beautiful Abby and Libby’s families are all I’m thinking about right now. I can’t begin to know how they have endured this. Praying they find some peace.
@@barbarad9317 to add to your prayer... and they get closure very soon. Can't imagine after all these years having to relive that moment.😢
Libby wanted to solve crimes. Libby was so brave to take those pics and I hope like hell these Jurors watch her video and discover that, as scared as we all know those girls were she still took pictures of Richard Allen kidnapping them. Libby and Abby have become all of our little girls. My heart goes out to all there families.
Lots of love to you Lauren❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you for going live to give us the update. Thank you so much
I’m nor is jury voice specialists so I hope they aren’t trying to compare voices to be main determination of verdict. Imo this should be not guilty verdict or hung jury 🤷🏼♀️ TY for all who are covering this and showing as much transparency as possible and I will keep praying for Delphi community for healing ❤️🩹 and Justice 🙏🏻🫶🏻
Thank you for the update. Justice for Abbey and Libby may the true killer be caught and sentenced to life.
To see how Richard Alan looked and sounded at the time of his arrest, and compare to bridge guy
Yes!!!!!
exactly 💯
Agree! May want to compare voices as well, but want to determine if it’s the same person, and he has lost so much weight, he looks different now.
50 lb weight loss cannot be ignored. He walks very hunched over now.
And even his description of what he was wearing.
The evidence requested leads me to believe they want to tie Bridge guys voice/mannerisms to RA.. this is good! They are doing there job!
Exactly, we are always wanting them to rush but they are asking good questions. ❤❤❤❤
Precisely.
Liberty and Abby and Justice for All.
And they may be coming around to a guilty verdict fingers crossed.
@@jessicamiller-si3wi BG and Rick Allen are two different heights. Did Rick Allen shrink 2-3" over the years?
If that is the evidence the jury asked for, I'm thinking that they're comparing the 2 voices from the 2 videos and Richard Allen's appearance at that time. My guess is that the majority already believes in his guilt and perhaps those who are undecided need to see confirmation with their own eyes. I think he's guilty, and I believe it will be a guilty verdict.
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I hope you're right..I just hope it's not at a point where none of the other things mattered, they just want to go by that fuzzy stupid video that no one can tell what it is. who it is. If ppl will put that video over 63 confessions..idk what to tell em. smh
Interesting point you are making. I can see what you are saying. I like the different approaches, w/o the attack of course. Today everyone seems to be more respectful which is great. 😊
They think it's him but, want to make sure before they say guilty , my opinion
This‼️‼️
May God bless and enlighten this jury.
Thank you for your dedication Lauren.
My immediate response to he had the “right” to be in the courtroom today .. The judges and prosecutor haven’t given a crap about this guy’s rights for years. I don’t know if he’s guilty or not but they certainly didn’t prove it in this trial. I do pray for these jurors. What a terrible position to be put in.
I 100% agree I believe the prosecution played on sympathy to try to cover up their sloppy and completely incompetent investigation.
Completely agree
Unfortunately they didn't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. Not particularly close either.
@@murphysmith3406 hes held in jail just like anyone else guess what jail isnt fun place to be plus he has to be held im solitary, protective custody which is solitary because nature of crime inmates aren just waiting to get to him hopefully in prison they do
@@laurac2424 the prosecution didnt investigate the cops did they get case and evidence
Thank you for your updates. Libby is truly a crime solver❤🙏🏽
Abby and Libby🙏🏽❤🙏🏽❤🙏🏽❤🙏🏽❤
Bridge guy video proves nothing at all
@@sebfettelkeep telling yourself that!!
It might confirm what they are already feeling.
I know.
@@sebfettel You need help, 🤡
🏖️🏝️I went & watched it: jury wanted cell voice of bridge guy & interigation "voice". It's what we been comparing all these yrs.
They just might convict 😊
What do you believe on the evidence? I’m not a troll and if anyone attacks or is rude, I’ll follow up. I have a TBI and can’t remember all the facts.
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@HiddenTrueCrime Lauren I just wanted to say thank you. I hope you know that we have your back and you should feel safe in whatever conclusion you come to. People have gone absolutely wild and it’s starting to P me off actually. Thank you to you and Dr John for all of your hard work, and reporting this trial to us. You are appreciated. And your voice your opinions are valid.
Thank you for the update Lauren. Justice for Abbey and Libby may the true killer be caught and sentenced to life.
He has already been caught!!
@ not in my opinion and not in the opinion of many others. I’m not alone.
I agree, I believe it was him. No question @@lorimann6022
@@LiaSunshine67I am also not convinced
I'm with you Lia. The prosecution hasn't proven their case. For each piece of evidence the state presented, the defence has more than raised reasonable doubt for. Not guilty. ❤ to you from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
Lauren, this case has been difficult for you. Here in the Southeast, we say, “Bless your heart!” At a cloudy, 70 degrees here in northeast Georgia, I feel cold just watching you and my lips feel chapped just looking at yours. Bless your heart, once again!! Saying a prayer for you. Love you!!
I think they got the wrong guy
I just find it very odd that the psychiatrist who SAYS that RA confessed to those things that nobody but the killer would know recorded everything except that confession. it was only written in the file. I wonder if people understand how easy it would be to implant false memories into someone in psychosis. Not to mention that doctor straight up lied and said something completely different in his previous finding than he did in court. RA's defense should have called that out. He also confessed to murdering his family members who are still alive and SA'ing his sister and daughter which they deny. Defense didn't bring that in either. I firmly beieve those confessions, if they happpened, were told to him and he repeated it. The timeline doesn't work either. No witnesses, no DNA, no proof regarding the bullet, nobody pointed him out in the courtroom as bridge guy. Sadly my faith in jurors has tanked in recent years. i pray that another innoceent man is not found guilty.
@@Prying-Paula exactly
Who would be planting false memories in his mind?
The psychiatrist for the state who conveniently changed his testimony for trial from what it was prior to trial. Also a funny thing he didn't record this so called confession with details that only the killer would know. RA confessed to killing his family membmers who ae clearly still alive. He confessed to SA against his daughter and sister, both of whom said it never happened. There is no concrete evidence whatsoever linking him to this crime. No dna, no fingerprints, no eyewitnesses, no proof he is bridge guy. Nothing, except the word of a psychiatrist who has already proven himself a liar!
@@Prying-Paula how do you know what the psychiatrist said before trial from what he said at trial?
@@Prying-Paula Why would the psychiatrist lie? What was his lie exactly? He’s not paid by the prosecution. The defense psychologist, however was.
Thanks for the update Lauren!
Makes sense. I always said when they asked in interrogation if that was him in picture, instead of saying that’s not me he said if that is from the girl’s phone it couldn’t be him, he never saw the girl’s. That always seemed suspect. Is it you or not?
Good point. I missed that. Thanks for information.
💯 not normal behavior regarding a response to a question of “is this you?”
Yes this makes me VERY suspicious of him too. That would mean he's seen this video/pic in the media all these years and never went to the cops and said "hey that's me, why are you saying this is the killer??" He didn't say no that's not me. I'd like to see a transcript of that video and his exact words. Also, no innocent man accused of butchering little girls says "arrest me or let me go". An Innocent man wouldn't want to be associated in any way. I'm leaning toward guilty, he didn't act alone, and the other killer/s know someone.
Exactly right, it looks pretty close to him, he placed himself at scene. Had same type gun, similar car to his seen on video, plus the confession last and even more
And then suddenly stopped cooperating once they asked to search his house.
Aspen was sent so much love from the Hidden Gems! I'm sure he appreciates that!
Aspen who? I didn't catch the name
@@laurieclarkson9180 Aspen Connor
Try to keep warm! Thank you for all your great work!
Lauren I so appreciate your coverage. I have followed this case since they were missing. If I could be there I would!!!!! Thank you!!
Thank you Lauren! Very thankful for your straight forward reporting ❤
Thank you, Lauren, for the update.
Lauren, thank you for your hard work. Your wonderful!!
Thank you for reporting on this!
I am glad the jury is being thorough and going back to evidence so they get it right. I know they would rather spend the weekend at home but I respect their due diligence.
Thanks so much for your updates & thoughts ❤😊
Lauren, God bless you and Dr. John and your entire family. Thank you for your commitment to covering this case, especially under such difficult circumstances. You are a hero. My family and I love you and your family, and we truly appreciate all your hard work & sacrifices. Stay strong.
Thanks Lauren!
Why has he been held in Solitary Confinement from the beginning when he has yet to be held guilty?
@@mcf.fontanez It was arguably for his safety because the case’s notoriety would’ve made Allen a target in general population. The problem is that it also exacerbated his preexisting mental instability.
He hasn’t.
It's been discussed for hours and hours during the trial. I suggest you go back and listen to the reporting of the trial, that will give you some insight into the reasoning for it.
He's never been in true solitary confinement. People in solitary don't have rec time or tablets or any guards or watchers to talk to.
For those who think he was tortured in prison, just where do you think he should have been kept? He was su*cidal. The county jail has the same small cell for those on su*cide watch as the prison. The county jail doesn’t have enough employees to safekeep him around the clock. They don’t have a therapist able to see him daily. Just where is he supposed to go where he would be safe from himself and safe from others wanting to harm him?
@Hidden True Crime thank you so much for just reporting the facts, unbiased & allowing us to go through the thought process with you. It's so helpful.
Thanks for your updates ❤
You are doing great and thank you for allowing us to know what is going on!!
Stay warm and confident! 🤍
Thank you for the updates Lauren ❤we appreciate you❤️🙏💜💙⚖️
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WILL never believe it was RA
@@zenamen5221 same
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After watching the evidence the jury is asking for, I think they want to see that it's not going to match up.
Thanks for always bringing us the latest news on this case.❤
Thanks for your hard work, Lauren! ❤
Local here! Aspen Conner is a Jewel 💎 Ty Lauren 🩵💜
I love that! Jewels and Gems!
I agree! Aspen is such a compassionate person ❤
I’ve been following this since it happened. I just don’t understand how even with Libby’s evidence, this case is not solved. Praying the jury rules correctly and there’s justice for Abby and Libby!❤🙏🏻❤
This has been so great seeing and hearing your work. I love law, yet speculative on Justice
Doesn't know the case. This is a Johnny Come Lately.
I was watching Day 2 from Aspen Conner and lol he’s in the gazebo & I chuckled thinking about your previous live and the court yard gazebo 😂❤
I subscribed to him. 👍🏼
I guess no one on this live has ever heard of someone confessing to a crime they did not commit? I cant count on 2 hands how many times LE have accused someone unfounded and forced them to confess especially those who are mentally challenged...so sad...justice isnt what it is suppose to be ... you either want the truth or you dont...do none of you want justice for these girls? If these were my daughter i would be exceptionally ticked off knowing that this was all they had!!!! I wouldnt be able to sleep at night thinking they had the wrong guy the whole time and that their killer is still free
Totally agree
Why are you assuming his confessions are false?
@@HeidiFredFabWell, RA confessed to killing his wife and family but they are still alive. Why believe confessing to the mùrders of the girls if we know his confessions about his family were false?
@@amiblind1325 very well spoken!
@@HeidiFredFab The better question is how did you read OP’s comment and conclude that his position was based in _assumption?_
When I saw the bridge guy video for the first time I said “Libby you are a smart brave intuitive young lady and YOU will be the reason this guy is going to be captured and put away for the rest of his pathetic life” RIP sweet girls 🙏🙏
@@movinaround59 and look where it’s at right now! They’d turn over in their graves!
Oh my Goodness. Thank you Lauren. I was feeling like the original interrogation video and the sound of the man on the Bridge did not match. I made that connection this week! Glad to hear jury is considering that as well!
@alwayshavestrengthjoy7450 have you heard the original interrogation video?
@ yes. I thought it sounded like the man who owned the land based on his news interviews. Also, he was wearing the same blue jacket during the interview as the man on the bridge. Not sure what the jury will think, considering all of the evidence, that I am not privy to.
Plunder, has a video of Richard Allen and his wife on a ski lift, only not in snow but greenery. Well her voice is too loud and his is faint. I asked Gray Hues to edit it, just his voice compared to bridge guy. Gray Hues didn’t. But from my few listening to it, it sounds like him and yet it doesn’t. That’s why I say that that guy, who listened to seven hundred phone calls should have gleaned that, pulled out the good ones, looped it, and the comparison, for the jury. How hard could that have been?
@ alwayshavestrengthjoy7450,
I have not made a comparison to Weber, but my thinking is this, everybody’s region or area will have an accent or way of talking, stuff like that. You know, like some people have southern accents. So when I made a comparison, it seemed like Richard Allen and bridge guys voices had the same accent and softness but not the same voice. Strange huh? So I thought to myself well that could be explained away as a regional habit of speaking. I’m not for or against. I’m just saying.
@alwayshavestrengthjoy7450 where did you see that?
Thank you for your up to date information as it happens we appreciate it you ❤️❤️
"i, i feel like we might because i just feel like, they probably need, you know, two and a half hours to go over this evidence, itll, its probably, you know richard allen arrived this morning, theyre probably, maybe maybe this will do it right
absolutely breath taking reporting from the scene
There’s not enough clear evidence and 0 DNA evidence. DNA evidence doesn’t account for everything and there’s ways to get rid of DNA evidence but in this case particularly I think it’s too risky to find this man guilty, especially with the history of wrongful convictions we’ve had. He admitted guilt they say but that man looks traumatized and he’s been held in solitary confinement so it’s not surprising at all that he would admit to something he didn’t do. No one to blame except the detectives and investigators in this case they really screwed this one up. I hope the girls and their family get justice they deserve and I hope no one innocent pays for something they didn’t do due to lazy and unclear investigations. This is a not guilty.
He wasn’t held in solitary confinement
@@HeidiFredFab so why would they say he was?
@@cjr9298 looks traumatized yeah turns out being in jail in solitary or protective custody does that to some than no one held in jail should ever be found guilty crazy logic
Please never stop doing this. You’re our favourite
Do you not think it's odd that the picture of Abby that they took on the bridge is gone off the phone but then again the bridge guy video is still there.
You’re the Best!!! Thanks so much for ALL. 👍
Ty Lauren for update
Great work, Lauren. I have followed your channel for a long time and added Adens. I wish I could afford to join, but budget can't afford it right now. I agree with John's take on things and enjoy his giving both sides of things.
I read the longer a deliberation vs shorter cannot determine outcome although many say the longer brings back a not guilty. After researching more, these are merely opinions and statistical surveys cannot confirm either..
Thank you so much for keeping us updated on this you’re an amazing lady ! 💞👏💞
I’ve always thought that it was going to come down to the simple fact that he was on the bridge that day, dressed in the same clothes. And they have him on video. Take away all the noise and confusion… what are the chances that some guy that sounds like him, looks like him, and was dressed like him happened to be there the same day?
And his bullet was found and clothes in his home that were almost exact
why do they not have his clothes that “ match” and test them w luminal? Or something..
@@horseteethcowteeththat’s what I was thinking
@@horseteethcowteeth
I believe they collected and tested his clothing
I agree and I find it curious that RA says he didn't see the girls that day and he didn't report seeing anyone matching the description of BridgeGuy. Could that be because he is Bridge Guy? I say he is Bridge Guy. He killed those girls and there are people making "I love you" signs for him. Absurd!
Thank you for keeping us all updated
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The only issue I have is they question his ability to be mentally stable enough to confess, but here he is with the right to be in the court room when evidence is being looked at. I realize it's been year's, but if his mental health declined that badly over time he'd be less aware what things mean now compared to when he confessed. Not saying he did or didn't do it but that just doesn't make any sense!
Unfortunately this case has come down to opinions rather than logic
Yeah logic and common sense says he is guilty
@@daveybreedlove8650 OK, Kelsi.
Not guilty. Timeline doesn’t work. Headphones steps
@@The2thfairy if you believe the headphone thing you're being intentionally obtuse. The timeline adds up literally perfectly
@ nope. Timeline doesn’t work. No way the steps from Libby’s heath app and the timeline match. Sorry. Go watch some more podcasts
Definitely going to Check out Aspen. Thank you again for the Update. My gut is telling me hung Jury. I’m lost at this point. Prayers for Abby & Libby’s Family. 🙏🏻
I leave it in the jury's hands and trust they know what they are doing, and PLEASE EVERYONE let's keep the comments kind, being nasty to one another is not helpful.
They don't know what they are doing. They are a jurors not professionals. Our judicial system is a joke.
I'm really concerned about the bad guys running free while innocent people are arrested and labeled guilty.
Unpopular opinion, I am a Richard Allen supporter, I was born and raised 30 mi from Delphi,the authorities in that little town was corrupt when I was younger and still is❗️ I know people want Justice for Abby and Libby and so do I however finding Richard Allen guilty is not going to find Justice for them because he did not do it without a doubt in my mind.
Ik not from there but experienced the police there while helping a female friend in a custody battle. I work for police. We were followed all the way out of town. They didnt knw who i was. They are definitely corrupt there
i agree. they don't have enough evidence. it sucks.
He put himself at the scene. Wearing exactly what bridge guy was wearing. The cops may be corrupt, but that doesn't make him innocent.
I kind of agree, everything so suspicious
You’re right - unpopular opinion. The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. The dude desperately and calmly confessed to trusted loved ones (not while being brow beaten) to unburden himself. When they denied him that much needed catharsis - he spiraled.
No way there were two men built like him, dressed like him, and carrying a gun on that bridge at the SAME TIME RA said he was there - and the same time BG was there.
If he’s so innocent, why didn’t he report innocently seeing Abby and Libby while he was watching fish on the high bridge? The facts are all right there. Pretty simple.
Thanks so much for your very informative updates and coverage of this case. I hope justice is found and the girls can finally rest in peace and community begin to heal.
Those are exactly the things I would want to see.
Thank you so much.Lauren for the updates and all the hard work😊
I think the jury wants to see how he looked and the sound of his voice before he went to prison and had a "breakdown" and "false" confessions.
Yes, her mission being fulfilled -- help LE solve crimes. Such a brief, purposeful life! It's so heartbreaking 💔
Thank so much for your thoroughness.
Ron Logan IS the bridge man I am 100% sure, His wife/girlfriend said it was him over and over!
@@tonydowns9424 wonder if anyone knows if rl and ra knew one another? Or if rl had a 40 caliber?
How can anyone with any sense think the state proved their case….
Exactly. They didn’t. Timeline and steps don’t work. One guy could not have done this
I can't believe how dumb you people are. You literally want a child killer to go free, just so you can shout conspiracy theory BS. It's embarrassing.
@@The2thfairy why not?
The jury knows far less than us.
@@The2thfairyso 60 plus confessions over months that weren't done under diress or during psychotic breaks, a bullet that cycled from his gun, the fact he looks, sounds and was dressed exactly like BG, the fact he was placed there a the exact time line of the crime wasn't enough? One confession can often convict let alone 60 plus. Libby did all she could do to show us who did this and she did a great job.
Thank-you Lauren!! Please try to stay warm & you are awesome as always👍👍👍👍❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you for the update 🥰
Thank you for all you are doing to bring this trial to us Lauren ❤
I thought we’re not supposed to be privy to the juries deliberations. Are Aspen and yourself able to share this information?