An organization like the PDC should have been doing the testing themselves so players couldn't bring fake tests. I bet there were others that did this.
I agree with the first sentiment. A fine would've made no sense for a lad that young. The father who allegedly encouraged him to do this should be seriously ashamed that he put his son in this position
Nice video Matt! But one question: Does playing in the Q-School once really mean you cant bet on anything dart related ever again in your life? I've never put a bet on darts in my life, just curious because it seems a little harsh to me :)
The Bradley incident led to other problems outside the PDC too. Players got removed from the super series because of it also. Glad he got the ban. He will learn from it and hopefully not do anything like that again
Very interesting video this 👍 I love darts and I have no clue about the backgoings with the pro darts life. Your videos paint a clear picture on the ongoings.
Have you ever known anyone to be fined for excessive farting, especially on the oche. For some bizarre reason, I get problems with gas when playing and quite often drop stinkers on the oche which becomes quite annoying for my opponents who threaten to throw me out of the venue
We played away to another pub team a few years ago and one of their players was absolutely honking and i mean smelt him before you seen him honking and a few of our guys were not happy,so their captain nipped out and came back with a couple of cans of deodorant and told they guy to spray himself,it honestly didn't make much difference but we did play the game and still won.
Just had a look at the dra website there and the hearings. People's names brought up for swearing on TV yet Martjin "it's shit" kleermaker doesn't appear...hmmmm
Coach Prime doesn't mention it specifically, but smelling good is implied: You look good, you feel good You feel good, you play good You play good, they pay good
@Matthew Edgar how do they know if the player has bet on darts, surely they don't check every player that bets on darts and then check if they've played q-school
I'd imagine that the DRA submits a list of all entrants to the integrity unit. They will run those names against all known betting account holders and if they get a match on the name they will check to see if it is the correct person. They can then look at the bets that person has made. It's not difficult to check and if bookmakers can detect suspicious betting patterns on things like whether the next ball bowled in a cricket match is a no-ball or a wide then finding out whose betting on Q school matches is easy enough.
I have never even noticed 'covid' other than online. No one I know ever caught it, I never got jabbed, never wore a mask, just never noticed it other than in print.
3.7 Players must comply with the entry terms and conditions of each Darts Event in which they have entered. The managers aren't entering the event hence they can't break rule 3.7. They break 3.1 and threaten to bring the sport into disrepute. The players do both.
Ah, no. It's all on Bradley. He knew he was positive and he knew the consequence of that so he got someone to provide him a no-indicator test. He then ran his mouth. Got what he deserved. And it's quite easy to figure out the likely source of your infection. I was a round table meeting with 20 people in december 2023, one woman told us her husband was at home with covid, she didn't test because she felt. I was wearing a mask because I'm protecting someone, lo and behold, 5 days later, 3 people in that meeting all felt like shit and tested positive. I didn't.
@@eoinkeeley8100 Very amusing, probably as serious as you can get, he could have killed someone. Had he been older ie 21+ I would have said it should be a ten year up to lifetime ban.
Did MVG literally say that some players played with covid when he tested positive about 3 years ago in the worlds ? I'm not 100% sure but think he did say that,someone maybe be able to correct me,how he knew if true,god only knows.
Never mind missing tournaments, people could have lost their lives, family members of other players, officials etc. I'd have banned him & anyone associated with him for life.
Could have been a lot harsher. Making people ill with what, at the time could be potentially life threatening illness could deserve a lifetime ban and I think the reason he didn't get that was because of his age. Just because others might have done it doesn't mean he shouldn't have been punished.
Great video Matt thanks for uploading this very interesting stuff. You're keeping everyone in suspense by not revealing who the stinker is but I bet that there's a few of them lol! 😂
Can’t help but watch this and laugh at the corona bullshit. Can’t help feel massively sorry for the young lad Bradley. Edit: big fan of yours Matt the channel is very useful but surprised you were still entertaining/condoning the previous corona virus rules in 2023
When are the utterly useless PDC refs going to stop players ,mainly gerwen standing in the exclusion zone while the thrower is at the oche? gerwen is literaly breathing down the throwers neck. even the tv camera some times shows this. its a rule so why is it not enforced?
Can't make Daddy DRA mad or they throw a wobbler. Sounds like bowling and the USBC. Never say anything negative about them and always tell them how well they're running everything even when they're making a right balls of it, lest they'll pick your pockets. No betting, but we've got advertising contracts with every betting outfit from here to Gibraltar. *Headdesk* Sounds like their rulebook is in need of some streamlining. Golf tried to get that right in 2019, maybe the arrows are due for an overhaul also. (But that would likely cut into their profit margin. And yes, I'm cynical after seeing the lists of ticky-tack offenses they're claiming.)
The young man was lucky so few people got infected. It was highly contagious and if more people got infected or the event had to be cancelled... I could almost see a "class action" law suit against him or his family. If he was 18 at the time... he is legally an adult and liable. Four years has likely killed his career for the most part because he will lose four years of match play development.
@@dranderson6071 Covid's become more contagious with each variant, but less deadly as people got their jabs + as Omicron took over. But even if he didn't cause any death (or serious illness), what he did was stupid and reckless.
there is no way to definitively prove he infected those people. it's knee jerk reactions like yours that blow things out of proportion and can ruin people's lives. stop and think for a second before spewing your reactionary nonsense.
People breaking plandemic rules always receive harsh punishment. Nevertheless you shouldn´t harm / affect other people by cheating to take part in restricted tournaments. NoGo!
4 years seems harsh. Would they have done this to a higher profile player? Maybe so but compare it to boxing for instance where fighters popping for PEDS would not get anywhere near this personally I think a one year ban would be enough
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An organization like the PDC should have been doing the testing themselves so players couldn't bring fake tests. I bet there were others that did this.
Most likely considering a bunch of players pulled out with Covid that year at the WC and they were self-testing
I agree with the first sentiment. A fine would've made no sense for a lad that young. The father who allegedly encouraged him to do this should be seriously ashamed that he put his son in this position
So what did MVG do to bring the darts into disrepute?
If you still get issues with the great unwashed now, just imagine the aromas at the BDO events back in the 80s!
Lol I bet some of them went over the top with the Old Spice too! 😂
You mean the BO events????
Seen Marcel Althaus on the 20th October, he's also a TH-camr (Scorpion darts) and a D-Puls player much before Martin Schindler. That one surprised me
What is the "bringing the sport into disrepute" violation and why are a few people (like MVG) regular recipients?!
Yeah, the ban could be considered harsh. But there's a really easy way to avoid bans/fines. Thats to not break the rules.
I found Wally.
Nice video Matt! But one question: Does playing in the Q-School once really mean you cant bet on anything dart related ever again in your life? I've never put a bet on darts in my life, just curious because it seems a little harsh to me :)
No forever just why your a member so for one year or
Unless you de register
@@Edgartvdarts Thanks for the quick Response :)
The Bradley incident led to other problems outside the PDC too. Players got removed from the super series because of it also. Glad he got the ban. He will learn from it and hopefully not do anything like that again
Very interesting video this 👍 I love darts and I have no clue about the backgoings with the pro darts life. Your videos paint a clear picture on the ongoings.
Thank you, I like to try bring it to life a bit
Have you ever known anyone to be fined for excessive farting, especially on the oche. For some bizarre reason, I get problems with gas when playing and quite often drop stinkers on the oche which becomes quite annoying for my opponents who threaten to throw me out of the venue
Tactics 😂
Surely if you went to a shop to put the bet on you wouldn't get caught as there should be no link if you've used cash?
I can definitely guess some of the stinkers…Van der Voort,Rydz,King and Lewis spring to mind
Rydz it will be the family of birds nesting in his Barnet.
We played away to another pub team a few years ago and one of their players was absolutely honking and i mean smelt him before you seen him honking and a few of our guys were not happy,so their captain nipped out and came back with a couple of cans of deodorant and told they guy to spray himself,it honestly didn't make much difference but we did play the game and still won.
Just had a look at the dra website there and the hearings. People's names brought up for swearing on TV yet Martjin "it's shit" kleermaker doesn't appear...hmmmm
That’s cause it was legendary
I assume the Adrian Lewis one was for the Jose Justicia incident. MVG & Price should have shares in the DRA at this point.
Nope, it was Adrian’s incident with Peter Wright in the 2021 Players Championship Finals
What interests me is Steve Brown being fined…. Inappropriate posts on Social Media. …. 😮
Coach Prime doesn't mention it specifically, but smelling good is implied:
You look good, you feel good
You feel good, you play good
You play good, they pay good
@Matthew Edgar How Do matt hope your well and having a great day. Happy darting
Hey Ray, hope you all good 👍
@@Edgartvdarts yeh all good I'm playing great league darts at the moment, absolutely loving it
So they don't test them when they get to the event anymore??
No reason why they should.
All these were from 2021 and earlier, does it really take this long for these offences to be judged?
@Matthew Edgar how do they know if the player has bet on darts, surely they don't check every player that bets on darts and then check if they've played q-school
There’s a whole integrity team. Bookies spend millions to ensure everything is monitored
I'd imagine that the DRA submits a list of all entrants to the integrity unit. They will run those names against all known betting account holders and if they get a match on the name they will check to see if it is the correct person. They can then look at the bets that person has made. It's not difficult to check and if bookmakers can detect suspicious betting patterns on things like whether the next ball bowled in a cricket match is a no-ball or a wide then finding out whose betting on Q school matches is easy enough.
@@Edgartvdarts surely they let their missus bet on them winning an event if they fancy their odds for example, no way some players haven't tried that
Matt is it only darts events you can't bet on, or all sports
Yeah just darts
Mat if u got someone to place a bet on a game can they blame u for it if the believe they have enough evidence
If they can link you then yes. E.g. if a player's wife bets that could be brought up for investigation
DRA letter incoming Matt..😂
I played someone who was covered in deep heat. Dutch Player.
Haha I can guess who that might have been! 😂
I have never even noticed 'covid' other than online. No one I know ever caught it, I never got jabbed, never wore a mask, just never noticed it other than in print.
3.7 Players must comply with the entry terms and conditions of each Darts Event in which
they have entered. The managers aren't entering the event hence they can't break rule 3.7. They break 3.1 and threaten to bring the sport into disrepute. The players do both.
Ah, no. It's all on Bradley. He knew he was positive and he knew the consequence of that so he got someone to provide him a no-indicator test. He then ran his mouth. Got what he deserved. And it's quite easy to figure out the likely source of your infection. I was a round table meeting with 20 people in december 2023, one woman told us her husband was at home with covid, she didn't test because she felt. I was wearing a mask because I'm protecting someone, lo and behold, 5 days later, 3 people in that meeting all felt like shit and tested positive. I didn't.
4 year ban only cos he got caught, bet he wasnt the only one who did it
So that means he should get away with then?
@@scottfletcherr1457very minor offence
@@eoinkeeley8100 Very amusing, probably as serious as you can get, he could have killed someone. Had he been older ie 21+ I would have said it should be a ten year up to lifetime ban.
Alan Soutar should get a fine for the state he left his room in at the Lakeside International in 2016 the morning after he lost.
Can’t wait for the stinkers video
How did they catch him for the false test? Someone must have told him to do it.
He bragged about it to someone and they told the PDC
@@foxytube3245 loose lips sink ships.
Really good video Matt.
Cant u do the vid if u get to 50
Did MVG literally say that some players played with covid when he tested positive about 3 years ago in the worlds ? I'm not 100% sure but think he did say that,someone maybe be able to correct me,how he knew if true,god only knows.
Yea he did he accused people of faking test results so he defo got a fine for that
@@robbiepalmer2460 Honestly can't remember what happened just vaguely remember him insinuating something.
Great vid. Fascinating stuff
Never mind missing tournaments, people could have lost their lives, family members of other players, officials etc.
I'd have banned him & anyone associated with him for life.
Freak
The 2022 and 2023 lists are also out now Matt, so this video is outdated
Do you have a link? I can’t find it in the PDPA website.
4 year ban for the first lad is scandalous. The world is gone crazy
infecting someone with an life threatening illness that was killing people at the time........what is scanadlous about it.
Gerwyn price and Adrian Lewis bought shares in the DRA 😂
4 years is a bit harsh. A ban yeah but not that long. I'm sure he wasn't the only one
Could have been a lot harsher. Making people ill with what, at the time could be potentially life threatening illness could deserve a lifetime ban and I think the reason he didn't get that was because of his age. Just because others might have done it doesn't mean he shouldn't have been punished.
Nice content!
I want a top ten of smelliest players in order
Steve west is dew some more fines from his modus week😱🙊
People need to learn to wash their knobs 😂 great insight 😅
Great video Matt thanks for uploading this very interesting stuff. You're keeping everyone in suspense by not revealing who the stinker is but I bet that there's a few of them lol! 😂
Oh defo there’s a few
@@Edgartvdarts Roll on the 100K when all will be revealed !
It won’t be Sir Steve Beaton 😂
Beaton can only smell of Sex Panther
One is defo Mervyn king cos Kim posted on his Instagram. Bow down to the…..bow down to the….shower 😂😂😂
Can’t help but watch this and laugh at the corona bullshit. Can’t help feel massively sorry for the young lad Bradley. Edit: big fan of yours Matt the channel is very useful but surprised you were still entertaining/condoning the previous corona virus rules in 2023
You do make me laugh Matt! 'This guy is a right bell... Don't take naughty boys with you!' 🤣
Intresting video
When are the utterly useless PDC refs going to stop players ,mainly gerwen standing in the exclusion zone while the thrower is at the oche? gerwen is literaly breathing down the throwers neck. even the tv camera some times shows this. its a rule so why is it not enforced?
Come on mate, tell us who the stinker is 😂😂😂 we'll keep it a secret 😉
I bet that there's a few of them!
Give us 5 player names and let us try and guess the stinker?.. :)
I could name 5 tbf
Naughty naughty, a bit steep on the 4 years.
Can't make Daddy DRA mad or they throw a wobbler. Sounds like bowling and the USBC. Never say anything negative about them and always tell them how well they're running everything even when they're making a right balls of it, lest they'll pick your pockets.
No betting, but we've got advertising contracts with every betting outfit from here to Gibraltar. *Headdesk*
Sounds like their rulebook is in need of some streamlining. Golf tried to get that right in 2019, maybe the arrows are due for an overhaul also. (But that would likely cut into their profit margin. And yes, I'm cynical after seeing the lists of ticky-tack offenses they're claiming.)
You are so cool and funny 😂
Is this Edgar's burner account? 👀
@@ant4682 who is that
@@alicerushton2582 Straight over your head mate don't worry about it.
@@ant4682 okay 👍
Was it MattPHEW Edgar, who smelt?
Like what you did there
Lesson for Bradley loose lips sink ships boy
What did Ben cheeseman do
Great to see appropriate punishment is being given out for spreading Covid around 👍
Really hope you have 100k subcribers soon because I really want to know who that smelly player is 🤣
There’s a few stinkers
Mervyn King
The young man was lucky so few people got infected. It was highly contagious and if more people got infected or the event had to be cancelled... I could almost see a "class action" law suit against him or his family. If he was 18 at the time... he is legally an adult and liable. Four years has likely killed his career for the most part because he will lose four years of match play development.
@@dranderson6071 Covid's become more contagious with each variant, but less deadly as people got their jabs + as Omicron took over. But even if he didn't cause any death (or serious illness), what he did was stupid and reckless.
@@dranderson6071you’re a 🛎️ 🔚.
there is no way to definitively prove he infected those people. it's knee jerk reactions like yours that blow things out of proportion and can ruin people's lives. stop and think for a second before spewing your reactionary nonsense.
Covid lunacy
COME ON THE STINKERS LMAO............
Karen convention in here.
Won't you be at risk of being foul of a DRA social media offence if you make a smelly post on players lol
lol stinking, you are confined to an hotel and can’t even shower despite it being easier than not showering.
Love the fact you only mention what the COVID one could have done to darts. It could have killed somebody.
It’s a video specifically around the darts perspective
People breaking plandemic rules always receive harsh punishment.
Nevertheless you shouldn´t harm / affect other people by cheating to take part in restricted tournaments. NoGo!
4 years seems harsh. Would they have done this to a higher profile player? Maybe so but compare it to boxing for instance where fighters popping for PEDS would not get anywhere near this personally I think a one year ban would be enough