American Snipers at the Turn of the Century, World War 1 & Beyond | Collector's & History Corner
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American Snipers at the Turn of the Century, World War 1 & Beyond
Sniping came into being at the turn of the 20th century for the Americans. It was a skill that was necessary in conflict, but kept disappearing after a conflict or war would end and peacetime settled. Then when another conflict or war beginnings, sniper training had to be reintroduced.
While World War 1 was occurring, the Americans used the Springfield 1903 service rifle and made it into a sniper rifle by placing a scope on it and handing it to their best shot in the group.
This video focuses on the Springfield 1903 sniper rifles with the Warner and Swasey scope, and M84 scope. It then focuses on the MC1 Garand rifle with the Kollmorgen scope.
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The M1, great gun as it is, probably got an inflated service life extension simply due to the fact that it was a semi-auto sniper that the US already had access to.
The way Vietnam worked, I imagine long range sniping was needed less often than a more "designated marksman role," or a medium sniping role of some kind (I'm no expert on that).
The gun itself was just fine and accurate, but other than the Kollmorgen scoped rifles, it was kind of a dinosaur. My understanding was that the Kollmorgen was the first really modern scope the USMC had at the time
Feel free to correct me where necessary
I don't get the bashing of 2 groove barrels. Any 2 groove barreled M1903A3 rifle or Lee Enfield rifle I have shoots as accurately as a rifle that has more grooves in the barrel.
"Somebody had the sense to replace the 2 groove barrel with a 4 groove barrel" is a comment that is laughable at best, and based on ignorance.
Same goes for the whole "low serial number" thing on the 1903 Springfield. Funny how my 1903 mfg Springfield (#7179) had seen enough service and use to be rebuilt several times including being re-barreled. A rifle that sees that much use isn't going to blow up from firing it. It's a myth perpetuated by ignorant "experts" because of a flaw in the heat treating process that plagued a VERY small percentage of rifles early on. Even the military records of reported cases shows that it was a very rare occurance in terms of the number of rifles affected out of the total number that were produced.
I’ve heard both that the higher number of groove barrels are better at longer ranges and I’ve heard that there’s not enough difference due to the number of grooves to offset the quality of that particular barrel lot or barrel manufacturer. That said when you get down to it the accuracy potential of the rifle wasn’t the limiting factor when the optic is a 2x 1940s-1960s manufactured copy of an inexpensive hunting scope and the ammo is usually standard M2 Ball FMJ. The USMC got excellent results with their M1941s built on M1903A1 rifles but they used an 8x Unertl scope.
I mean the scope the US Army had in use were not very good but the 1908 ones were the most powerful scopes of the first world war from what I can think of.
***** Yeah it was very powerful.
***** What the world war 1 scope? If you are wondering it is the 1913. But the US Marine Crops. didn't use the same scope as the US Army.
***** Oh the AI.
***** The M-1903 A1 that it's name.
Actually before you talk about the M1903A4, you have to mention the M1903A1.
When WWII started, the Army was given the M1 Garand off hand faster than you can say mummy and for that, the USMC was the last units in the entire US Armed Forces to receive the M1 Garand but the USMC made use of their M1903s in the Philippines when the Japanese kicked in. They're extremely well-trained marksman and they pride themselves with the M1903A1 with the Unertl 8x scope especially for snipers. The US Army? No such luck. Thus, they had to rush for sniper rifle and since the US Marines were still stuck with the M1903, production was still ongoing with the M1903A3 to be able to arm the USMC completely for an oncoming offensive thus there's tons of A3's still in stockpile, the US Army grabbed what they could get, slap a scope on it and ripped the front post off thus ta-dah, the A4.
But when the rifle was sent there, there's some American snipers in the Western Theater who complained about the lack of accuracy from the A4 against the A1 and many narrowed it down to the ridiculously 2 twist rifling.