Traditional Archery - Your Anchor, a different perspective
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.พ. 2025
- This week on Archery 101, I look at a different take on your anchor and show you a different (possibly even better) way to choose yours.
Here is a link to the DIY Sportsmens Video with Arne Moe
• Archery Form with Arne...
Great advice ....love it as you say a clearer head space ....more fun 👍👍
Great advice on skeleton alignment I've just found my knew anchor point and it feels natural shooting better Great stuff
I just watched that video and all Arne Moe videos, but ..... didn't understand/caught it. Thank you all of my heart to informing me of this." Anchor need not be where others say it should be ...." Now you've solved another of my many problems. Thank You Sir.
Arne Moe is not only a great instructor, he is a great person. I have always enjoyed speaking with him , and you can feel his passion, he loves helping people.
Being a fellow Airman doesn’t hurt him either lol
Good advice as I've been struggling as to were I should anchor I'm going out to the garden and give it a go thank y 101
I just can’t thank you enough for this video. I shoot so much more accurately and comfortably now because of this information. My new natural anchor has been a joy. Thank you again
Awesome. Can't wait to try this at the range. Kind of thinking that a corner of the mouth anchor was part of the equation in my plucking problem. Glad I came across this video three weeks into my tradition archery career. Thanks a bunch. Subscribed today.
Hey Greg, it was great to meet you at ETAR 2018. I really appreciate all the ideas you share. Keep.em coming brother.
I saw that video with Arn Moe just days ago - I was also struck by the obviousness in it. I've been shooting (bare finger) thumb-release with my compounds that I started archery with last summer, and been very focused on the "muscles only"-horseback slant, but have had a hard time anchoring in the air over my shoulder. When I heard Arn it just made full sense: I've got to go back, and all-in, on bone-aligned style!
And, of course, even so much more value to recurve / horse-bow shooters, since they would have the tendency you talk about of ordering (I adapt to the length of the draw-stop, so a bit of "cheating" with compounds).
So glad you highlighted his lesson with this video! Great job!
So I shot yesterday for the 1st time in a month contiued with the Arn Moe recomendations result it was just so easy this has been a revelation
Very interesting concept. Thank you for posting this. I have a lot of joint issues and had to switch to shooting lefty this year. I've struggled to get comfortable and consistent with where I thought my Anchor should be as opposed to where my body wants it to be.
Can't wait to experience this next time on range.
I didn’t know the terms, or why it worked, but I figured this out a few months back. My shooting went from 8” groups at 25, to 1-2” groups at 25. Its amazing how good each shot feel when you actually get skeletal alignment.
Good read: Hunting the Hard way by Howard Hill. Has a very good discussion of anchor points and why. His trick archery videos are something to behold--all while shooting a heavy straight end long bow.
Been struggling to anchor so this help break that down some. Good info!
Love your insights!!!!it just makes it more adaptive to what you feel right!!!! gonna mess with this more!!!
I needed this video. Great info.
I have switched to 3 under in the last year or so and have improved my accuracy greatly . I was coming to a specific anchor point for quite sometime then the "feel " hit me . The expansion became the anchor and made everything seem more manageable . Now with my J type draw and back tension anchor , my consistency has improved both in elevation and windage . The "feel " I call it , married with my split vision / traditional / intuitive aiming method has improved my hunting skill . Good instructional video.
Yes! You draw, hold, and "feel" the shot. Then, not hold the string anymore (best description I've ever heard of release, or "loose the arrow ").
I suffer from target panic. I just want to draw and let it go. I keep saying " hold it, feel it." Once I feel the shot, it's always perfect!
Also, don't shoot too much. Shoot 6 to 10 shots and then go do something else for awhile. If you just keep hammering away, shots get sloppy.
@@derrickray5464 I have noticed this as well. The more you shoot the worse you get lol. What do you think causes you to get worse the longer you shoot?
@@Zephyr1202 muscle fatigue. it is like lifting weights, there is a point called "muscle failure" after some sets of weights, one is not able to keep pushing the same weight. Same happens here. And the heavier the bow the shorter the time one can be consistant.
thanks for pointing my attention to that video ... I recognized a few errors of my own that Arne is explaining and how to get rid of them :-)
Good simple instructions. Good job keeping us informed.
Thanks for the info as it is very interesting to adapt to the physiological position as opposed to an anchor point. I personally shoot shorter bows and rely on muscle memory as the anchor point which is often in the air and not on the body.
Great info Greg.
Simple stuff and I like it! I think what people don't really think about is our bodies are made differently and we have different limits of flexibility. While I do believe that archery has a form that should be strived for, each of us has to find that anchor position that gives us the maximum draw and back tension while avoiding that strained feeling. Sometimes in my efforts for that 'proper' position just prior to release, I feel like I'm straining for it which seems to me just as bad as trying to shoot a bow with a draw weight that is too heavy for me.
Will give it a go. Thank you kindly.
Best advice ive heard
Thanks for the great videos. I'm a barebow shooter who has gotten a bit frustrated with my progress. The owner of my local range is also a level 4 coach who teaches a lot of compound and Olympic style recurve shooters. Last year he changed my anchor from my upper cheek to under my jaw. I find it really hard to try and aim an arrow with the draw anchored under my chin, but then I also shoot split finger--I don't want to string walk, I'd rather learn to gap shoot. I'm going to try this method and see if it helps.
Under the chin is not a reasonable way to anchor when not using sights. It moves the arrow to far away from the eye and makes any aiming (either conscious or unconscious) that much more difficult.
@@TradArchery101 Thank you. One of the other barebow shooters at my range recently said he went back to his face anchor and looking straight down the arrow. He shoots lots of Xs. I don't understand this drive for coaches to push barebow shooters to a under jaw draw. Honestly, it makes me question if he's hoping I'll convert to Olympic and spend more money to buy all that expensive extra stuff from his shop. Its to the point I almost don't want to go shoot there any more. Thanks again for your response and for the videos.
@@TradArchery101 what I feel is that the with the draw to the chin I can actually look over the arrow and align it under my eye but when I draw to my cheek, my eye is not directly over the arrow unless I tilt my head, also my face gets in the way of my fingers and pluck the string. So it is badically the same verticaly but horizontally when my face in on the side of the arrow. Just as I have to aim lower the farther down the arrow is from my eye, the farther right I have to aim if my eye is on the side of the arrow and not directly above. Thats what I feel personally, I rather just focus on one, horizontal plane, instead of two
0:37 the bird in the back makes it sound so dry and comedic
Today I realized this, for me though, when I bring my hand to the face mt shoulder complains and the alignment doesn't feel as good as when it is under my jaw line. Yes, it does increase the gap but the feeling is much better and concistant than when I focus on placing my hand somewhere and then try and feel the back alignment.
Explained well Thanks 👍
Great info!
Really useful
Also rotational draw.
Thanks a ton
I started archery about a week ago. I started drawing til I felt full back tension and skeletal alignment. It felt very natural to engage the back muscles to me since I am a former gym rat. I started to get pretty good groupings and hit gold pretty often. Then I learned about anchor points and decided to try it. It feels like I am collapsing a little bit even if I anchor at the chin or the corner of the mouth and that I need to pull back further than any of the most popular anchor points. Then I tried cheekbone and behind the jaw but it feels a bout strange and I feel that I get a weird string alignment. No matter what I tried nothing felt completely right anymore :S. And my aim got so much worse just by trying the normal anchor points. I am going to listen to my body and what feels right to me and not what people say is right. It seems to work best for me.
Have been trying this out for about the last month here are my thoughts for what they are worth. Draw lenght has increased by about 1 inch, anchor point is behind my jaw just under my right ear, do not have to think about getting my elbow back to feel back tension, now it just happens, colapsing seems to be a thing of the past. groups have tightened up (shooting 2 inch groups at 30 metres) it seems to work!
i watched that tom ,i thoght skelatal alighnment was excelent to,but remember arrow on top nocking point like howard hill
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Lol, opening scene was great
2.24-2.26-I totally agree with you.
Interesting thing, that my anchor point is different when I use three finger protective glove. I realized that with glove have to adjust the bow sight. My instructor said try not use this glove.
Good video with food for thought.
You slipped up making this video Greg as you should of got a arrow manufacturer or archery shop to sponsor you.
All those that find it lengthens there draw by an inch or so and have arrows cut to exact size will need to buy a load of new ones.
That sponsor money could of purchased the wood and materials for the next bow you make.
Gary Chynne also teaches that the elbow dictates your anchor point as well as your aim. Keep pulling and let the string hand fall where it may.
I'm sure Gary Chynne's anchor point is dictated by his beard.....lol
Hie, can you help us with a perfect recurve anchor? I would like to see a new video on it.
I do not think there is such a thing as a perfect anchor. Just so many things to consider.
try shooting,like howard hill withnocking point other side of arrow, arrow on top of nocking point,watch you shoot alot,excelent job
great advice, thanks!
Totally makes sense.
So the natural next question is... What is proper skeletal alignment?
Great question, not sure if I can explain it the best. I can demonstrate it though. The alignment they seek is where the weight of the bow is held not by muscle, but your body structure. The bow hands forces are pushing into the shoulder socket and the rear elbow is in a line with the shoulder socket.
The easiest explanation is something like this: it's the position, which allows you holding the bow drawn with minimum effort. Great video once again, Greg!
This playlist may you help understand somewhat:
th-cam.com/play/PLjsoEaH5b-pA06NSOI34hnarJYbTsya5y.html
EDIT: The first vid will help the most IMO.
"When it feels like you've reached "let-off" on a compound bow" - that's the spot!
straight line from the arrow to the back of your elbow. Just look up a diagram I guess.
Brilliant!
Do you aim a little to the left since your arrow nock is not directly under your eye?
No, I set my arrows up to hit where I’m looking. Which means I like a “weaker” or “softer” arrow.
@@TradArchery101 This works for you at different distances?
@@The-art-rabbit
Yes it does.
Greg, what is the bow you're shooting with in this vid? Looks pretty nice!
That is one I made in my basement. It is a copy of a 1969 Ben Pearson Collegian.
Nice! Let me know when you start accepting orders ;) Btw, I watch quite a few of your vids and starting to watch Jeff's too... You guys are pretty low-key and ya'll have quite a bit of fun when you shoot but dang, you guys are pretty freaking good shooters!
Thanks, The one thing you could say is that we do not take ourselves serious. I'm not the best shot. Jeff is far better.
Well I think it's really cool that you constantly seem to be searching out new info and reevaluating your shooting and passing on your knowledge and experience for us newbies, I'm sure it's helping me. Btw, thanks to you, now I've got the Pearson Bug... Just bought a Colt model although it's heavier than what I shoot now so I'm gonna have to work up to it. Hope she indeed looks as purdy in real life as her pictures ;D
Can you post he link to that video you are talking about?
ElizaberthUndEugen
Simply search DIY Sportsmen Arne Moe. I did and it was the first video to show up.
thanks
I keep trying to sneak up on you but you turn around at the last second!
Sounds like sound advice to me.
sorry i mean greg,hey thats my name
So .... Where is the link to the video that you refer to? Failing to provide a link to the video you refer to is irresponsible don't you think? I've spent the last 30 minutes looking over the 100's of videos on DIY sportsman. I need to substantiate your claims.
I'm sorry. I did not know it was irresponsible to think that you would know how to perform a basic search. . I did a quick search using : DIY Sportsmen Arne Moe. The video was the first one listed. Maybe if you did that, you would not have wasted thirty minutes in a fruitless search. BTW, he only has 124 videos, which is far from the 100's of videos you claimed to have searched through looking for it. Feel free to substantiate my "claims", please let me know your results.
@@TradArchery101 😂
I love it!!!!
Great response
Here is the link to the video Greg is talking about!
th-cam.com/video/gjW6_60Vvp8/w-d-xo.html
Man, did this video come out at the right time. Just came back from a stumping trip in the woods, and I could not for the life of me get any kind of back tension today. Going to try this out tomorrow, as I am one of those "corner of the mouth" guys as well.
(Maybe pin this comment, or put the link in the video description?)