USA vs China: Who Will Win the War for the South Pacific?

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  • @deanzaZZR
    @deanzaZZR ปีที่แล้ว +30

    "Win the War". "Regain political dominance". Language is important. The people there simply want help building schools, hospitals and the local economy.

    • @rizkyadiyanto7922
      @rizkyadiyanto7922 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Money". Thats what US and china and their allies care about.

    • @awf6554
      @awf6554 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That goal is helped by international rivalry for influence.

    • @petersinclair3997
      @petersinclair3997 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Australia donates generously to the Pacific Islands. Has done so, for decades.

    • @rizkyadiyanto7922
      @rizkyadiyanto7922 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@petersinclair3997 *bribing.

    • @awf6554
      @awf6554 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rizkyadiyanto7922 For what?

  • @theawesomeman9821
    @theawesomeman9821 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    The fact that, unlike China, America has massive reserves of natural resources and is not reliant on imports, I think America could outlast China in a prolonged war.

    • @RubyDoobieScoo
      @RubyDoobieScoo ปีที่แล้ว

      Until Russia implodes and China annexes the resource rich Eastern half.

    • @Andromeda365
      @Andromeda365 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not now when the mother of all natural resources are friendly neighbors with china.. Hi Russia

    • @zsarimaxim692
      @zsarimaxim692 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      That’s where Russia comes in.

    • @qjtvaddict
      @qjtvaddict ปีที่แล้ว

      America is falling apart have you seen the cities? USA already is in huge debt? They can’t afford another war.

    • @Smashing_Bumpkin
      @Smashing_Bumpkin ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@zsarimaxim692 😂

  • @awf6554
    @awf6554 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You brushed over the importance to China of the huge fisheries that these islands control.

  • @williamlloyd3769
    @williamlloyd3769 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Crossing South Pacific was the longest transit I’ve ever done. The voyage seemed to take forever. Glad we got a great port visit in Sidney!
    PS - Logistics is everything in that area of the world.
    PS2 - seems like it would be tough to make a living in these islands. I’d say Chinese will wear out their welcome in the long run.

    • @dadahan-qf5mg
      @dadahan-qf5mg ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You westerners have nuked the southern pacific region so many times and has your welcome worn out?

    • @awf6554
      @awf6554 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@dadahan-qf5mg The "Westerners" that have used nukes in the South Pacific (US and France), are both integrally part of the region.

    • @charlesfavell3350
      @charlesfavell3350 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@da dahan0000 Just like you Wumao have worn out your welcome spaming the comment section on TH-cam with Genocidal CCP propaganda! On a sidenote isn't TH-cam in in banned in China

    • @RubyDoobieScoo
      @RubyDoobieScoo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dadahan-qf5mg The crucial difference is that the West doesn't want anything from those countries anymore.

    • @carkawalakhatulistiwa
      @carkawalakhatulistiwa ปีที่แล้ว

      USA : we give you weapon , to attack China
      China : we give you road , rel , port ,and airport to grow your economy to be independent from United States

  • @masterchinese28
    @masterchinese28 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    In 2015 I visited the FS of Micronesia (Yap) and there was all kinds of talk amongst the locals about the Chinese coming. The tour guide said that they wanted to help build a bigger airport so more tourists could come, but the locals believed that it was so they could have an airstrip long enough to hold bombers.
    The next year I went to Fiji. I saw all kinds of construction projects with Chinese workers there. Locals would compare the build quality of roads by Australia and China.
    The competition is really on.

    • @forbeginnersandbeyond6089
      @forbeginnersandbeyond6089 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So what did they say about the build quality of roads between Australia and China?

    • @Cousgoose
      @Cousgoose ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very interesting

    • @Cousgoose
      @Cousgoose ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@forbeginnersandbeyond6089 that’s what I wanna know too

    • @行客-k4d
      @行客-k4d ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@forbeginnersandbeyond6089 我也想知道

    • @charlesfavell3350
      @charlesfavell3350 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@For Beginners and Beyond If China built it I doubt if it is quality

  • @johndewey6358
    @johndewey6358 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    This is an important area for Australia's security as they can serve as a shield, early warning platforms, prepositioning radars, fuel and other resources for both Australia as as well as her allies, especially since Australia lacks nuclear submarines and ships at this time. I am not sure how many refueling air tankers Australia has at this time. By having the right treaties with these nations especially with the ones closest to Australia, she can deny the use of these territories to the would be aggressors.

    • @timloo6191
      @timloo6191 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or better still. Ang moh go home

    • @peterpanini96
      @peterpanini96 ปีที่แล้ว

      Australia will ens up china puppet becase america have no plans while chona is already testing its plan and proving those chona testings are succesfull. 🤣

    • @carkawalakhatulistiwa
      @carkawalakhatulistiwa ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peterpanini96 USA : we give you weapon , to attack China
      China : we give you road , rel , port ,and airport to grow your economy to be independent from United States

    • @johnathanmagliari8461
      @johnathanmagliari8461 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The biggest problem with Australia is that they have acted quite arrogantly with the island nations. They really dont know how to make friends in the region. Micronesia has an excellent relationship with America, since they tend to be respectful and fair in their dealings (except for Trump, who acted like an ass for no reason)

    • @johndewey6358
      @johndewey6358 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnathanmagliari8461 I hope mutual practical interests can gather allies to cooperate and let go of bad or negative histories as Micronesia ad Australia are facing danger that can hurt all allies in the long run.

  • @danielch6662
    @danielch6662 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The South Pacific belongs to the people living there. They get to trade with who they want, and everybody they want. They are in nobody's _sphere of influence._ They are sovereign nations. Leave them alone. Let them manage their own affairs. They don't need anybody telling them what's good for them.

    • @fatwombat1
      @fatwombat1 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes, in an ideal world…

    • @awf6554
      @awf6554 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Everyone is in someone's sphere of influence. The South Pacific doesn't exist in some mythical bubble.

    • @doujinflip
      @doujinflip ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tell that to China, whose own diplomats confirmed they have an attitude of "we're big, you're small, therefore you have no leverage in these discussions" despite having much less historical influence and integration in the South Pacific than the British and its former colonies.

    • @danielch6662
      @danielch6662 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@doujinflip I have not heard of what you claimed. Where was this reported?
      I had thought that China's attitude was _we don't care what you do domestically_ tyrant or democracy, if the country is ruled by a cannibal who murders and cooks his own people, doesn't matter. Their trade and diplomatic relationships, are morality free. There are obviously good things about this, and bad things. Like for example, they infamously became friends with the Khmer Rouge, and tried to keep them in power, even after so many people where murdered!

    • @danielch6662
      @danielch6662 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@awf6554 I live in a smallish country. Nobody likes to be somebody else's _sphere of influence._ It is anti-democratic. Isn't this what is happening in Ukraine? Russia thinks all the ex-Soviet states (minus the Baltics) are in its _sphere is influence_ and should not have complete freedom. Australia thinks the Pacific islands are in its sphere, and they shouldn't get too cosy with China.

  • @bakthihapuarachchi3447
    @bakthihapuarachchi3447 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    That thumbnail is hilarious though

  • @hijue88
    @hijue88 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Growing up in the South Pacific, regional powers are keeping the islands poor via aid. Our politicians won’t adopt important long term policy changes because aid money in voters pockets today is more effective when you living week to week. It’s a hard cycle to break from.

  • @huiarama
    @huiarama ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thanks for this video, long overdue. If I may ask a question: Where is New Zealand?
    New Zealand has often stated that it sees itself as a South Pacific nation and has the largest Polynesian city in the world and therefore a multicultural, cosmopolitan world view.
    Yet, when it comes to support of the Pacific Islands, its people, its culture, economic and security NZ seems to absent. Why?
    Australia appears to be doing the heavy lifting. Is it in NZ's case strategic apathy?
    To use a New Zealand term: 'Allot of hui but no doee'.
    (* 'hui', pronounced who-ee, is a Maori word for meeting).
    Thanks again, love the channel.

    • @RubyDoobieScoo
      @RubyDoobieScoo ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The New Zealand Defence Force isn't capable of exerting influence beyond its borders and because of Robert Muldoon the economy isn't strong enough either but it'll be New Zealand doing the heavy lifting when the people of the Pacific need shelter after selling their countries to China or after their homes are destroyed by climate change.

    • @LS-er7pf
      @LS-er7pf ปีที่แล้ว +3

      New Zealand for many years has been supporting the Pacific Islands financially through military assistance and training and vaccinations programmes. NZ funds regional organisations and platforms to deliver development cooperation programmes across the Pacific, and to maintain a strong regional architecture for Pacific countries to discuss and coordinate responses to priority challenges facing the region.
      Key regional priorities include fisheries and oceans, climate change and the environment, broad-based economic resilience, labour mobility and trade architecture (including PACER Plus), good governance, regional security and stability, human rights and inclusive development. Millions of dollars each year are given to Pacifric Nations. For example< New Zealand will provide a $NZ30 million financial assistance package to Fiji in a bid to strengthen relations between the two countries.
      The new funding support was announced following a bilateral meeting between Foreign Affairs Minister Nanaia Mahuta and the Fijian Prime Minister Sitiveni Rabuka on Thursday in Nadi. NZ needs to start looking after it's own people.

    • @alkers372
      @alkers372 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The chart listed in the video shows New Zealand's aid to the area is more-or-less on par with China and the USA...although far behind Australia which has a significantly larger economy.

    • @carkawalakhatulistiwa
      @carkawalakhatulistiwa ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RubyDoobieScoo USA : we give you weapon , to attack China
      China : we give you road , rel , port ,and airport to grow your economy to be independent from United States

  • @manyulgarprsch
    @manyulgarprsch ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The only reason you didn't mention as to why the region is important is that Australia is in that region and in the mind of all Westerners, she is one of them.

    • @rizkyadiyanto7922
      @rizkyadiyanto7922 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yep. colonizer.

    • @fatwombat1
      @fatwombat1 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@rizkyadiyanto7922the alternative is Chinese colonisation.. which do you prefer?

    • @awf6554
      @awf6554 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Old fashioned thinking in these days of multiculturalism. Three of the top 5 sources of immigration to Australia are India, China, and the Philippines.

    • @trevorjoneill707
      @trevorjoneill707 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@awf6554 and Irish the last 15 years

    • @awf6554
      @awf6554 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@trevorjoneill707 Ireland isn't in the top 20.

  • @lagofala
    @lagofala ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At this point, the South Pacific could and should benefit from just playing both sides and reaping the rewards.

  • @Tmb1112
    @Tmb1112 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Clearly America. USA USA USA!!

  • @mattbeks2949
    @mattbeks2949 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Australia has the upper hand all Albo has to do is give the Pacific a NRL team and we’ve won their hearts and minds!!!

    • @issacmaw3344
      @issacmaw3344 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think your better giving PNG a league team. Rugby Union has the two teams for Fiji and Samoa for influence from NZ and Aus. Better money spent securing the Northern approaches.

  • @seanlander9321
    @seanlander9321 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Controlling the South Pacific depends on who is in an alliance with Australia.

    • @paulfri1569
      @paulfri1569 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Bingo 🎉

    • @petersinclair3997
      @petersinclair3997 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@paulfri1569 Already, there are joint AUS-USA bases in Australia, including Pine Gap and North West Cape. Australia’s JORN works. China’s is less developed.

    • @paulfri1569
      @paulfri1569 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@petersinclair3997 Red China dominate Melbourne and Sydney thou.. Once they reach critical mass.. They could start pressuring the OZ government to be more pro China..

    • @johnathanmagliari8461
      @johnathanmagliari8461 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No its not. With the exception of Nauru, no one in Micronesia even thinks of Australia. They are quite irrelevant to us, except for milk and corn beef trade.

    • @seanlander9321
      @seanlander9321 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@johnathanmagliari8461 Twaddle. No nation other than Australia has the strategic capacity for control of the South Pacific due to its size and location. Besides, there’s going to be a lot of islands underwater soon.

  • @Kapsok
    @Kapsok ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Quite worrying that I get political insights from someone that mispronounced 2 of the countries mentioned in the episode…

  • @onlyfacts4999
    @onlyfacts4999 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It really depends on how reliable American aid will be this time around or will funding be cut again.

    • @foilhat1138
      @foilhat1138 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Opposing the CCP is one of the very few things both parties can agree on.

    • @justinwolf7490
      @justinwolf7490 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Google humanitarian aid by country. Just do it and you can see the countries that are the real givers. China can’t even feed its own population.

    • @petersinclair3997
      @petersinclair3997 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Think one will find Australia is the largest donor.

    • @qjtvaddict
      @qjtvaddict ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@foilhat1138 lol nice distraction from the social issues in the country

    • @theubiquejim
      @theubiquejim ปีที่แล้ว

      if Trump or his clone win the next election, who the F knows what will happen. MAGA at the expense of other free thinking peoples of the world.

  • @ТарасМакаренко-ф3ш
    @ТарасМакаренко-ф3ш ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think whose fleet will be able to survive the war, it will own the entire Pacific, and not just some of its area

    • @lenny5774
      @lenny5774 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Controlling the area is how to have your fleet survive.

    • @ТарасМакаренко-ф3ш
      @ТарасМакаренко-ф3ш ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lenny5774 control over the entire Pacific Ocean is better and safer than control over the area of ​​South Asia or any of the islands. or I'm wrong?

    • @robman2095
      @robman2095 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ТарасМакаренко-ф3ш True power is about access to resources, facilities and ports in these small island countries. This means building soft power as well as military power through building relationships and actual friendships. Having a strong blue water navy is important but just one of the things that matter.

    • @trevorjoneill707
      @trevorjoneill707 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ТарасМакаренко-ф3ш its all about land holding/ control of said land

  • @egg174
    @egg174 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Oh no! We can't get Fiji water anymore!

  • @containedhurricane
    @containedhurricane ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It would depend on the prices, as France indicated recently

  • @Naza_44
    @Naza_44 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Here in Fiji, the newly elected coalition govt terminated a Security MOU signed between Beijing and the previous govt. The termination of the MOU resulted in the deportation of more than 20+ chinese nationals. I guess we're off to a good start! 💯👌

    • @covenant_mog05
      @covenant_mog05 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This is good

    • @apvial
      @apvial ปีที่แล้ว +6

      well done

    • @awf6554
      @awf6554 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, Fiji has well and truly nailed its colours to the flag pole. Well done.🇦🇺

    • @paulfri1569
      @paulfri1569 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well done 👍 wise 🦉

    • @ColoniaMurder20
      @ColoniaMurder20 ปีที่แล้ว

      good job, dont trust china.. just look at what they did to Philippines.

  • @gabrieljohnson2609
    @gabrieljohnson2609 ปีที่แล้ว

    Visualpolitik, can you made video explaining about civil war that is happening at Sudan right now

  • @autothrust330
    @autothrust330 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The guy who made the thumbnail deserves a pay raise!😂

  • @greggb681
    @greggb681 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am going to send this guy some toothpaste and teeth whitener.

  • @lukenash8112
    @lukenash8112 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    On a cultural level for a lot of the pacific, Australia will win through our connection to common sport.

    • @mainmusik3677
      @mainmusik3677 ปีที่แล้ว

      Australia genocide of aborigin will be a burden of local pacific people 😁😁😁

  • @jimflagg4009
    @jimflagg4009 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Major Internet feeds run through those islands. There is also shipping routs through them.

  • @skylineXpert
    @skylineXpert ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Visited the cook islands last year and I saw their brand new school near the western end of the airport.
    I wonder how much the local government had "pawned" for this.
    Because what you have to put as collateral for these loans from the PRC...

    • @RubyDoobieScoo
      @RubyDoobieScoo ปีที่แล้ว

      I know that they sell fishing rights to China, Cook Island politicians will sell the country to China one day but they won't be building schools with that money.

    • @karthur3421
      @karthur3421 ปีที่แล้ว

      what if they can afford to pay it off? lol.
      You think western loans are any different? lmao.
      In the end they're all the same, take loans and pay it up or lose something, it is simply business, how'd you think America has had so many military bases all over the world?
      How many of them do you think gave space willingly?

  • @lenny5774
    @lenny5774 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's modern "Colonialism" from all sides.

    • @awf6554
      @awf6554 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From the west it is, if you consider integration into the free market economy to be colonisation.
      With China making agreements with authoritarian regimes to deploy police and the army, it's looking more like the old fashioned sort.

    • @Andromeda365
      @Andromeda365 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@Aw F you drank all the kool-aid, huh. By the way what flavor was it?

    • @qjtvaddict
      @qjtvaddict ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Andromeda365 neoliberal exploitation flavor

  • @choopa1670
    @choopa1670 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Australia will always be the preferred top power in Polynesia as they share many values history assimilation through mutual cooperation and influence over these countries. Many Polynesians marry Australians and New Zealanders. Polynesians other than Samoa always choose to move to australia or nz. China will not change this even with a lot of money being thrown at the island nations.

    • @wumaobot
      @wumaobot ปีที่แล้ว

      East Timor....

    • @choopa1670
      @choopa1670 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wumaobot that’s Melanesia bro. They different. They been oppressed for decades by coloniser countries eg Germany france Spain. Can’t speak for them but one big thing is that australia and them share sports links like rugby league. Which plays a massive influential role. And in ww2 the Melanesian’s helped and established great relations with australia. East Timor has a security pact with australia and Australian army saved their government from getting dissolved 20 years ago so there is good relations and history with them. Influence.

  • @AmpornKunyuang-fc1ku
    @AmpornKunyuang-fc1ku ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If Xi Jinping thought he could win,he’d have done it without hesitation .

    • @humanbeing_0318
      @humanbeing_0318 ปีที่แล้ว

      He has already won we just dont know it yet China has a lot to offer.
      Infrastructure needs cannot be fulfilled by the West. CHINA has deeper pockets than the West because of its recent alliance with Middle East and Natural resources will not be problem.

  • @MRTY323
    @MRTY323 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh no, the Chinese are coming to South Pacific. Now we have to treat the islanders with respect and dignity so that they don't side with the Chinese...

    • @awf6554
      @awf6554 ปีที่แล้ว

      Australia and NZ have been providing significant aid to the South Pacific since decolonisation.

    • @MRTY323
      @MRTY323 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah but if things are hunky dory then they'd have no reason to get close to China right?

    • @awf6554
      @awf6554 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MRTY323 Chinese methods are less than ethical. Look into the Solomon Islands situation, with its allegations of corruption.

    • @MRTY323
      @MRTY323 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All's fair in love and war. And it seems like war right now.

    • @awf6554
      @awf6554 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@MRTY323 So it wasn't "hunky dory" as you suggested. Duh.

  • @GongGhuru
    @GongGhuru ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To the US all these islands are just another
    Army base, it's not about the development
    of people's lives ,

    • @awf6554
      @awf6554 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same with China.

    • @petersinclair3997
      @petersinclair3997 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Climate change is a bigger issue than defence among the Pacific micro nations. America and Australia had been benign militarily towards these small countries for decades. Suffering under a Middle Kingdom developing vassal tributary states would be the wrong course for Pacific Islanders.

    • @alkers372
      @alkers372 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I lived in Micronesia in the Peace corps. There was a submarine communications facility on the island I was on. That much is true. However, the United Stated also had Seabees on the island constructing roads and schools. They didn't exploit the natural resources on the island or the surrounding seas, They sent teachers to the islands, and provided scholarships in the USA for the best students to study whatever discipline they wanted. in 1990 the Federated States of Micronesia were given their independence. The US still has a footprint there, but not an invasive one. It's up to the Federation to stay allied with the USA or move on. They know what they will get by staying, and realize it's certainly something they can live with. There are relatively few strings attached to the relationship. States like this one would welcome the Chinese to do business and for their tourists to visit the islands, but only if there are no strings attached. With the Chinese, that is never the case however.

  • @lunarmodule6419
    @lunarmodule6419 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not sure these countries want to be part of a chinease empire...

  • @Embargoman
    @Embargoman ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Japan will join in the party!

  • @smartguy360
    @smartguy360 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The loans the Chinese have offered are also now coming back to bite them as many of the countries cant afford to repay

  • @trevorjoneill707
    @trevorjoneill707 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the US has a base there and then there's the base's in Korea and Japan, game, set and match

  • @georgepapatheofilou6118
    @georgepapatheofilou6118 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If these islands should choose CCP over others for economic reasons then good for them. I bet China won't let them immigrate to their mainland . Food for thought .

    • @francishallare204
      @francishallare204 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ya'll are the same people complaining about immigration in the US which is it 😂

    • @danielch6662
      @danielch6662 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      George, most countries do not like brain drain.

    • @awf6554
      @awf6554 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@danielch6662 Lots of revenue goes back to the home countries. And the immigrants don't lose connection. They have learning opportunities that can transfer skills back home.

    • @georgepapatheofilou6118
      @georgepapatheofilou6118 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@francishallare204 Aussie mate Fair dinkum

  • @kanghongouyang986
    @kanghongouyang986 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I don't know how western people feel about this video during its running, As a chinese , there is always a invisible idea or propaganda makes me really hard to understand this video, its really hard to tell whether this is a educational video with total objective view.

    • @user-gf5dr5nq6l
      @user-gf5dr5nq6l ปีที่แล้ว +1

      western people are blind, its all based in a subtle sense of white superiority and seeing it fade makes them panic, America thought that the 21st century was theirs, but its mistaken as not even the Americans believe that.

    • @jonascretin6203
      @jonascretin6203 ปีที่แล้ว

      The big problème is that in the west a very lot of peaple thrust the governement propaganda

    • @Icefrostmiguel
      @Icefrostmiguel ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It varies in western world aswell. As a Portuguese, I have a very negative perspective of Australia and Indonesia because Timor-East natives and Portuguese people got both massacred, raped and genocided so that Australians could rob timorians their oil. Portuguese did not wage war but were massacred along with their Timorian wives and husbands, families etc. Indonesia repressed the natives to replace them by indonesians. Disgusting.

    • @danielch6662
      @danielch6662 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's an educational video, with a tinge of propaganda.

    • @rizkyadiyanto7922
      @rizkyadiyanto7922 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Icefrostmiguel very nice of you to care for your cattle.

  • @rsxteufel
    @rsxteufel ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If history of viet nam war proved that western countries should stay out....too many life was lost during viet nam.

  • @magnuswehus
    @magnuswehus ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol. Great thumbnail 😂

  • @kongwee1978
    @kongwee1978 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Americans of course.

  • @lostinlife2700
    @lostinlife2700 ปีที่แล้ว

    China 🇨🇳 to pacific: You want Goodies
    Pacific; you paying 🐼
    China: No 🇺🇸 paying
    Pacific; How?why? But how??
    China 🇨🇳: By saying i paying😭

  • @Rasp5557
    @Rasp5557 ปีที่แล้ว

    The difference is that in the past you ruled over them by fear and intimidation and today China is making them their own by providing money.

  • @johnnyllooddte3415
    @johnnyllooddte3415 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    china doesnt have a navy...ahahahahahaha

    • @fatwombat1
      @fatwombat1 ปีที่แล้ว

      in number of ships it’s the largest Navy in the world

  • @Jondiceful
    @Jondiceful ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As for strategic importance, the US Island Hopping strategy in WWII showed just how significant a port of resupply and to land/refuel planes can be. The logistical significance extends beyond military uses though as supply chains for any industry operating across the enormity of the Pacific will find the same value in these Islands as any military. When looking to further any national geopolitical agenda, it's difficult to see many things of greater importance than industry and the force projection of your military. Rhetoric and ideology might be the substance of speeches and agreements, but the strategy is always centered more on the material advantages of industry and military power. Anybody who wishes to project power across that great sea must inevitably turn to the islands if they are to have any hope of success. The enormity of Chinese trade across the Pacific makes its interest in the region absolutely essential. But the same is true of the USA and so there will be much deal-making throughout the land... er sea. Ultimately, it may not matter which side holds the upper hand. Both sides are increasingly dependent upon each other economically. China needs Americans to keep buying their stuff, and American companies need Chinese labor to provide that stuff to Americans at the prices they demand. China needs the dollar to prop up its own currency, and the US needs China (and Japan) to keep buying US debt so the USA can keep running its eternal deficit. China needs western investors and western investors need China to make their investments go farther than they could at home. For now that relationship is lopsided with China needing the USA more than the USA needs China. Relationships can and do change, but right now any dramatic shifts in the US-China relationship would cause too much pain for either side to countenance it- assuming rational actors all round.
    Conclusion- the status quo will likely shift around in the south Pacific, but it is in neither side's interests at the moment for those shifts to be any more substantial than the tides in which a degree of dominance over the region may oscillate but never settle permanently in either side's favor. Stalemate is my prediction for the foreseeable future, which admittedly is not a long time as the last three highly unpredictable years have proven.

    • @qjtvaddict
      @qjtvaddict ปีที่แล้ว

      You do realize china has a bigger middle class right? Americans are in debt.

    • @Jondiceful
      @Jondiceful ปีที่แล้ว

      @qjtvaddict the Chinese middle class real-estate debt easily dwarfs that of the USA middle class per capita, but yes the Chinese middle class is larger by head count. As a percentage of the overall population, however, it is smaller and some might argue that is a better indicator of the health of the middle class.

    • @mainmusik3677
      @mainmusik3677 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      US policy is to make the rich elite and banker stay wealthy.
      While china socialist policy is to make the people have job.
      In case US China decouple, china has nothing to lose. They can produce cheap product and keep selling them. While US rich elite and common people will both suffered because of capital outflow and high inflation.
      I put my bet on china. They dont care if jack ma become broken. While US has "obligation" to keep their oligarchs keep wealthy 😁😁😁

    • @mainmusik3677
      @mainmusik3677 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jondiceful To have a fair comparison. You have to adjust the purchasing power and wealth distribution of US and China middle class. Living cost is matter if want to compare middle class and the poor.
      And , in China , their culture is saving. Their middle can save up to 40% of income. While in US , majority of the people is heavily in debt , and their investment mostly in stock market which is repeatedly crashed by big banker when they want to "rob" people money.
      How much homeless in US and China since 2008 big crash until today ??? How many shop looting in China and USA ??? How is the crime rate between China and USA ???
      I am a businessman. I trust logic and real world. Not propaganda and paper aset. China workforce productivity is way higher than US labor, but their wages rate is much lower even after adjusted to purchasing power. China people heavily subsidized by the government (housing, healthcare, education, pension, etc) , while US people have to live paycheck to paycheck and in debt. That's why US inflation is 6% and china is 1%
      😁😁😁😁😁

    • @mainmusik3677
      @mainmusik3677 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jondiceful And china real estate debt ??? lol that is decade ago propaganda and i am in shocked people still believe that. Housing debt regulation in china and USA is very different. You have no idea what you are talking about. I am not surprised when trump trade war hurt US much more than china. Enjoy the inflation because of the trade war. No wonder US automaker open the factory in mexico rather than detroit. Mexico dont have trade war with china. They imported lot of china products and send to USA with "made in mexico" label 😁😁😁

  • @sanjeevsingh-uj9ki
    @sanjeevsingh-uj9ki ปีที่แล้ว +6

    biased extremely

  • @achernar2724
    @achernar2724 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😂 if there is a war the islands will align with New Zealand and Australia because a lot of the people from the islands settle in these 2 countries and everyone has a family member that lives in NZ and Australia so yeah we’re intertwined

  • @TheVineOfChristLives
    @TheVineOfChristLives ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Make the Philippines, Guam and MI a US state. Problem solved!

  • @3y3g00
    @3y3g00 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Visual politic continues their insistence on saying every name wrong

    • @GraniteInTheFace
      @GraniteInTheFace ปีที่แล้ว

      That and speeding up his footage up by 1.2>>

  • @rimsorin8529
    @rimsorin8529 ปีที่แล้ว

    Das ist eine gute Idee und gut bedacht von China 🇨🇳
    Das kann China sich leisten.
    Weiter einkaufen, viel Erfolg 🍀

  • @craigkdillon
    @craigkdillon ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Huh? The title makes it sound like the US and China are starting from the same position.
    They are not.
    The US has dominated the South Pacific since WW2.
    We even have a musical called South Pacific.
    I don't think China has much to offer the region.
    Now, the French might open Fiji up to China. That would fit their character.

  • @paulfri1569
    @paulfri1569 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imperial Japan 2.0?

  • @abstractlizard9377
    @abstractlizard9377 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    8:40 wrong headline

  • @david.b4186
    @david.b4186 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    U.S will with God’s help.

  • @MarshallTheArtist
    @MarshallTheArtist ปีที่แล้ว

    A great deal of that space is administered by France. Seems like an odd detail to overlook.

  • @2valu4ever
    @2valu4ever ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a Pacific Islander from Tuvalu, Australia and NZ have always been the ones that have provided aid over the many decades of our independence. Taiwan also entered the picture for well over a couple of decades now doing nothing but providing aid where it is necessary. As of writing this message in 2023, all Tuvaluans are against this new Chinese hegemony power in the pacific. But like every other nation in the world, there is always one politicians who will get paid under the table and eventually influence public opinion. I do hope that we are small enough to not let such a politician shape such important foreign policies.

    • @dana19851128
      @dana19851128 ปีที่แล้ว

      can you explain the concept of "new Chinese hegemony power "?Chinese took your money?

  • @baxtermoore4594
    @baxtermoore4594 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Not sure those countries wants to be part of the Chinese empire
    Also I want to use this medium to appreciate Mrs Amandakolbach for all the helped rendered to me so far!!... I don't know if anyone have heard about her. as of few months back my house was mortgaged but I can proudly say not ANYMORE!☺️☺️

    • @baxtermoore4594
      @baxtermoore4594 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @baxtermoore4594
      @baxtermoore4594 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol, that's the most amazing part of it all🤗.... you need zero or more skills to join, she links clients up with competent stock traders for the task ahead.

    • @baxtermoore4594
      @baxtermoore4594 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can search her online

    • @baxtermoore4594
      @baxtermoore4594 ปีที่แล้ว

      I reached her by the name Amandakolbach with my Google assist

    • @baxtermoore4594
      @baxtermoore4594 ปีที่แล้ว

      still wonder how she does that!?😩. How could someone be this helpful to you even without fixing your gas leak lol😂

  • @australianjackaroo6660
    @australianjackaroo6660 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Australia and New Zealand will win.🇭🇲🇭🇲🇭🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇳🇿🇳🇿🇳🇿

  • @weixingyang898
    @weixingyang898 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    at least those countries will now get some real aid either from China or Aus/US.

    • @awf6554
      @awf6554 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you see the aid graph in the video?

    • @weixingyang898
      @weixingyang898 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@awf6554 I saw the aid chart, but whose know what happen to those aid.... may be spent on the wrong area? There must be something that China done right for them to able to increase influence in this region. Anyway, more attention to this region is only a good thing for them.

    • @awf6554
      @awf6554 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@weixingyang898 China has only gained influence in the Solomon Islands, and under dubious circumstances with local allegations of corruption.
      You're right that an aid war can be beneficial, and you're also right that aid should be in the right area - bribing corrupt regimes isn't one of them.

  • @heatpete5106
    @heatpete5106 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about China's presence in Antartica? Gee, wonder what they could be up to over there 🤔

  • @Baz.007
    @Baz.007 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So China having a military base in Solomon Islands is "unacceptable" to Australia and America.
    But Australia and America is fine to have military bases literally encircling China and the world.

    • @Baz.007
      @Baz.007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Rolipoli lol, I dare YOU to change that

    • @Baz.007
      @Baz.007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Rolipoli like what? America telling all their allies to piss their pants after Chinese diplomats visits, virtually anywhere?

    • @Baz.007
      @Baz.007 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Rolipoli sounds more like you've been sleeping. USN have owned the world's ocean since 1945.
      America have considered the Chinese military as a threat since 1992 according to their own defence papers. I don't see any news, unless you have finally woken up counts.

    • @alkers372
      @alkers372 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes. There are U.S. Military bases all over the world. The result of having them was a Pax Americana over the last 3 decades where everyone became considerably more wealthy and most parts of the world were kept secure. In this time period, China and Russia were brought into the world economic system and became wealthy beyond anything they experienced before. Countries that had a US Military presence in the Far East, like Japan, South Korea and Singapore, have become rich and secure. Australia can get by with a 60,000 person military in a huge country because they know the USA has their backs. What happened when the Philippines kicked the US out of their country? Generally nothing. Has Europe prospered under the US/NATO umbrella? Of course it has. It's why every Eastern European country that could, has rushed to join the block. In the South Pacific too, islands have seen increased prosperity under the current economic system. Even in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States had the USA to protect them from Saddam and later from an expansionist Iran. The flow of oil remained constant while they became wealthy as well. You are inevitably involved in conflicts if you are the world's policeman, and you take some missteps as well, but when you think of what the alternative is to the US system of security, I for one am thankful that is been in place. It's not at all comforting to think of what China or Russia would do if they become the world's only superpower.

    • @Baz.007
      @Baz.007 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@alkers372 many many great points raised, I must say. But they also appear to be essentially built on confirmation bias. You feel like America have positively influenced many parts of the world, and you pull out many successful examples like Japan, South Korea, Singapore and NATO. So we're good to ignore Iraq, Afghanistan, South Vietnam, Palestine, rest of non US ally countries within Middle East and the entire South America?
      The world is not black and white, but the glaring contrast of 1000+ US bases around the world, yet the "free world" is chucking a fuss over a handful of overseas Chinese is just a laughable affair.
      I can't see how Russian or Chinese getting greater world influence would make things "unimaginable". As to be frank, when it comes to foreign policy, those from authoritarian regimes are ultimately not that different to US foreign policies.
      The Hague Invasion Act, anyone?

  • @foilhat1138
    @foilhat1138 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Xi after that exotic honey.

  • @dragosstanciu9866
    @dragosstanciu9866 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chile should get involved in this race for control of the South Pacific.

    • @Stone56373
      @Stone56373 ปีที่แล้ว

      For now, they only control Pascua island

    • @awf6554
      @awf6554 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chile doesn't have the Aus/NZ/US cultural connections (edit: "with the South Pacific"), nor the economic power of China.

    • @Stone56373
      @Stone56373 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@awf6554 But UK and also The US both have good relationship with Chile. And yes u have the reason, Chile isn't a superpower like China

    • @ColoniaMurder20
      @ColoniaMurder20 ปีที่แล้ว

      Majority in Southeast Asia countries should get involved.. pacific region is part of Austronesian Family..

    • @robman2095
      @robman2095 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes China certainly active in their region too

  • @meejinhuang
    @meejinhuang ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Australia should be challenging China there.

    • @Marc-.
      @Marc-. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea sure, we’ll be risking our entire economy because amerimutt says so

    • @petersinclair3997
      @petersinclair3997 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Marc-. So, you would have an enemy on Australia’s doorstep? AUKUS was a smart move. Each country has special defence secrets to share. No one wants conflict, yet China is becoming more aggressive day by day. Australia has a AAA Stable rated economy and could spend 3% of GDP on defence.

  • @RobertP.Trebor
    @RobertP.Trebor ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Australia surely has alot of soft power in the region. Im sure theres alot of polynesians living and starting families in Australia... cant imagine that happening in China

    • @covenant_mog05
      @covenant_mog05 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Culturally and ideologically, the islands are more aligned with australia. Its only until a despot or authoritarian figure takes power that they have something in common with the ccp. In australia, you have every spectrum of skin colour, making a life here, can't say the same from them so you're right

    • @awf6554
      @awf6554 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      New Zealand as well. It wasn't really mentioned, but New Zealand's soft power influence in Polynesia is very substantial.

    • @covenant_mog05
      @covenant_mog05 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Aw F the ccp is following their usually playbook, showering the country with investments. However, the condition is that they bring over their own man power and material. Basically, the local population doesn't even get a chance for employment or involvement except for a few for these projects. Next, you'll see the loan/debt get too much for the country to pay off so they surrender a piece of their territory to them. It's not even an assumption since this has already happened before.

    • @Pasta_Pirate
      @Pasta_Pirate ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I feel like that might just be political posturing by NZ politicians. As shown in the video when it comes down to direct financials it's pretty limited.
      Culturally they have strong links but beyond that I'm not sure.

    • @awf6554
      @awf6554 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Pasta_Pirate Those cultural links can be pretty powerful.

  • @joemancini2988
    @joemancini2988 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stylish shirts, Graham.

  • @loufor1931
    @loufor1931 ปีที่แล้ว

    As I always say. All is great are great till America pulls out a checkbook

  • @garyboekelman1048
    @garyboekelman1048 ปีที่แล้ว

    you talk too fast mate... slow down a bit and we can understand you better

  • @stevenbarden8466
    @stevenbarden8466 ปีที่แล้ว

    …,with big stone heads that look like me… classic!

  • @karlsussan8454
    @karlsussan8454 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wonder how the ravenous Chinese fishing fleets and Chinese tourists (voted worst tourists in the world) will factor into this decision.

  • @sea_turtle007
    @sea_turtle007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I honestly think the US won't fare well. We will have to see

    • @qjtvaddict
      @qjtvaddict ปีที่แล้ว

      This war benefits nobody

  • @yungy7942
    @yungy7942 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please be cautious of ear rape 0 seconds in.

  • @Moribus_Artibus
    @Moribus_Artibus ปีที่แล้ว

    🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷

  • @sundaynonso7872
    @sundaynonso7872 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After 60 year now their will remember them their are selfish

  • @Giles20
    @Giles20 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Until the US learns to not meddle on another country's internal affairs, they will continue to lose influence. If you wanna talk business, then do so. Leave the politics out.

  • @michaelborror4399
    @michaelborror4399 ปีที่แล้ว

    Without rimworld it sounds like australia would rather live in a bubble or on an island anyway, very informative and niche video, wouldn't mind a few more jews in this video, as a cave lionen with an ankh that doesn't fit, and forgetting about my no non-breakaway necklaces rule in the first place, or finding the right one and staying grounded with less common occurances being probable at times, and an occasional scoobie doo mystery with a costume as well anyway, and some requiring a little more attention than others like pharoah kafre at times, I'd recommend musashi's book of five rings over the dokkodo's 21 rules of being alone in more adaptable environments, with plenty of time alone hopefully though. Definitely a more trollish environment on the news channels typically and just not enough nukes for all of the human scum, while an intrusion would be the inclination that one person on an island couldn't invite and do business with another though.

    • @fatwombat1
      @fatwombat1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      what are you talking about??

  • @jamestajiri58
    @jamestajiri58 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You're wrong about Japan's island capture which was to buil a defensive perimeter to defend 1) their resource/ oil center in Borneo and 2) defend an island hopping path to Japan

    • @deanzaZZR
      @deanzaZZR ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The History of Japan podcast (Isaac Meyer) recently did a few episodes on this period of history. If I were to summarize it I would say Japan was happy to gobble up all the Pacific Islands from the Germans after WW1 The islands remained a backwater with few government officials or investments from Japan. Of course the Navy thought it was important to station military assets around the islands so it did slow down the Americans in WW2.

    • @johnathanmagliari8461
      @johnathanmagliari8461 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brother, the Japanese claimed that all of Micronesia was part of their island chain. They thought that way about ALL the territories around them. It was quite strange.

  • @Paccekabuddha
    @Paccekabuddha ปีที่แล้ว

    Err... the war is not about winning the South Pacific

  • @user-gf5dr5nq6l
    @user-gf5dr5nq6l ปีที่แล้ว +2

    9:40 you mean colonies?

    • @rizkyadiyanto7922
      @rizkyadiyanto7922 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      colony of a colony.

    • @awf6554
      @awf6554 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do they want to be part of the US?

  • @vankhoanglam2164
    @vankhoanglam2164 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    👍🇨🇳👍🇨🇳👍

  • @jonascretin6203
    @jonascretin6203 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Haha seriously the USA is crying because the chinis build UP a diesel station a 8000km from they border
    It is very dangeres for they Security
    But in the same times Ukraine can becom a Nato member whith no problème for russia😂

    • @fatwombat1
      @fatwombat1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you don’t make sense, try again

  • @DiddyNadhiri
    @DiddyNadhiri ปีที่แล้ว

    On the other hand, i think that the S.Pacific countries should decide for themselves. This video just proves how the West think about other countries. It is always about influence and Colonialism.

  • @The88Cheat
    @The88Cheat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:28 "Great regional power in the region."🙃

    • @awf6554
      @awf6554 ปีที่แล้ว

      You must have missed the economic contribution graph.

    • @The88Cheat
      @The88Cheat ปีที่แล้ว

      @@awf6554 I have no idea what you’re talking about. I was simply poking fun at the tautology.

  • @benyendle2584
    @benyendle2584 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your teeth look way better now and don't distract from the material. Sorry to be a jerk but it makes a big difference getting them whitened

  • @kazi1
    @kazi1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi

  • @EAcapuccino
    @EAcapuccino ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Send in Dwane Johnson 😅
    He'll be an ace card in rj works! Haha being Samoan
    Hard to say really

  • @rodmarker2071
    @rodmarker2071 ปีที่แล้ว

    Obviously, what a stupid question .. Brexit UK with Liz Truss ... Obviously .. Undoubtably Global Britain ..... Honest , just wait 50 to 100 years we'll be boss ...

    • @Stone56373
      @Stone56373 ปีที่แล้ว

      By that time u gonna be dead, me and you will

    • @petersinclair3997
      @petersinclair3997 ปีที่แล้ว

      Global Britain will see the UK join the CP TPP. To America and Australia, the UK basically deserted those allies in the WW2 theatre. Expletive, Expletive Churchill, lied to Truman and MacArthur about the supposed strength of WW2 The Philippines and Singapore and, would have left Australia in a dire situation against Japan, after Australia defended England in WW1 and WW2. Churchill was responsible for WW1 disasters too. Who declared war on Poland, but didn’t defend it, against Hitler. Churchill let Stalin take Poland, ultimately. What country dropped the Commonwealth to enter the Common Market? Looking at Europe, one sees France willing to surrender, in an instant and the UK, an unreliable ally. The UK is about the UK and no one else. America and Australia, New World countries, make better fit.

  • @mp-hk6ln
    @mp-hk6ln ปีที่แล้ว

    Cover your mouth like DEAR GOD the channel would be so much more popular

  • @lostinlife2700
    @lostinlife2700 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    King 👑 china 🇨🇳

    • @Bonk_RN
      @Bonk_RN ปีที่แล้ว

      lol

  • @michoacanpresente5076
    @michoacanpresente5076 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Long Live USA

  • @CS-nn8zu
    @CS-nn8zu ปีที่แล้ว

    Pa-lau.

  • @brendakrieger7000
    @brendakrieger7000 ปีที่แล้ว

    🙀

  • @mna7308
    @mna7308 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    China goes in build roads and infrastructure while u.s goes in with bombs and imf loans😅

  • @a_true_one7696
    @a_true_one7696 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chinese industrial and real economic powers and are overwhelming. So unlike those of the US built mostly on selling software, copyrights and fiat money.

    • @alkers372
      @alkers372 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right, America got wealthy designing and selling software and copyrights. China got wealthy stealing them. America does nothing else. No agriculture, no oil or other raw materials. No aircraft of automobile manufacturing. No movie or music industry to speak of. Good post.

  • @jigpig4140
    @jigpig4140 ปีที่แล้ว

    South pacific regions are only tourist destinations.

    • @fatwombat1
      @fatwombat1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      there are vast fishing grounds in the Pacific to feed billions of Chinese as well as potential mineral and oil reserves yet to be explored and exploited, hopefully never.

  • @sanjeevsingh-uj9ki
    @sanjeevsingh-uj9ki ปีที่แล้ว +1

    but frist youn r a hypocrite

  • @benblanc6358
    @benblanc6358 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First

  • @krzysztofmitka1060
    @krzysztofmitka1060 ปีที่แล้ว

    lontg time sice i was hire WTF is Simon

  • @tranbaohoangvu9464
    @tranbaohoangvu9464 ปีที่แล้ว

    :D

  • @FlamingBasketballClub
    @FlamingBasketballClub ปีที่แล้ว

    Professor James Ker Lindsay did a video on the Pacific Islands 3 months ago.
    🌚🌝