That “weird” looking rear suspension is what sold me on my ‘18 xcr. Still love it. Had the shocks done and it is alarming how good that sled goes through the rough tug hill moguls. The track strap shortening is necessary. Like you guys I did everything to not shorten it but when I did it felt like the typical negatives weren’t as prominent as the increase in steering
I've got a '16 Pro-S 600 Switchback. Already running the 100 lb springs up front, 130 lb spring on the RTS & stock spring on the FTS. I added a Trac-Link adjustable front limiter strap and have worked with shortening the strap length. Shocks are stock valving & have been refreshed a few times. My only complaint is the exact issue shown here with the "tippyness". How do I get ahold of Bruce to get my shocks to him? Looks like this may be the cure I've been looking for. Thanks for the video!!
Thanks for following along. I will post a link at the end of this comment that is a link to the shock service page pf Southsides website. There is a form you need to fill out to send in with your shocks. The tippyness of because of the needles in the front shocks. he can fix all of that for you. any questions let me know! www.southsidesales.com/snowmobile-shocks
I love my 19` XCR 850 - rips great and needs the shocks gone through. I've got a 24' XCR 850 on order so that sled is going to my wife with my 7 year old son, I'll probably have to get a bigger rear spring on there to hold the extra weight...
You should send the shocks into Bruce to be refreshed and he will be able to help you with the spring also. We do all suspension stuff there. whatever is needed
Just got done going thru my Buds GF's Anniversary Rush 600. All new suspension bearings etc. (Summer service etc.) I own a '16 600 SB. Completely rebuilt suspension, shocks by Monster 800mi. ago. This year I'm trying a Hygear dual FT spring and a 150# on the rear. The 130# wasn't enough. (I weighed my rack and gear and came up with another 45lbs. to add to my 230-235.) Should be interesting. My question is this: Which hole would you start out at with the limiter strap? When I had the skid out this summer it was in the 2nd hole. (OEM?) When I installed the FTS, (with 0 preload) I needed to crank down my Trac-Linc limiter strap just to get the bolt back in the 1st hole of the OEM strap. If I crank it down to get to hole 2, I'm going to lose shock travel. I just want a recommendation on where to start with the strap. I don't want a wheelie machine, and I want it to turn. PS I still have the 80# IFS springs and I think they're good.
in the future i would give Bruce a shot to do your shocks. We really have set ups for these sleds down and ready to go. with the Trac Link LImiter strap i am unsure where to tell you to go because that changes the length of the strap. you would have ti put OEM on there in it original holes (service manual shoukd show you which was OEM) and then we recomend going a half a hole distance to start. Ive done that video on my channel 2 times now so youll have ti go back and watch them!
I will consider having Bruce do my shocks after next season. It seems he is a man with copious amounts of Polaris experience and knows what he talks about. The Pro-S, unlike the XCR, only has a limiter strap on the left side. I put my TrackLink strap on the right side. When I installed the FTS this summer, I used the TrackLink to crank down the spring just enough to get the OEM strap back in the first hole at the top. When I removed the strap before, it was in the 2nd hole. I would need to compress the shock further to get it into the 2nd hole further reducing suspension travel. If that's the OEM hole, so be it, especially if Bruce ends up turning it down from there. The TrackLink makes this a much easier job than drilling holes! I'll look in my shop manual download to see if it shows what hole is OEM. I just want a base to start from this winter so I don't spend all winter fighting/adjusting the handling like I did last winter!@@JESSEJAMES322
PS: When I said suspension rebuilt, only the shocks were done by Monster after I purchased the sled used w/3k on it April of '22. I changed the OEM 120# rear spring to a 130# but it wasn't enough. I went thru the rest of it myself, new bearings (Japan), Northstar A-arm bushings, solid inner wheels for the studs I installed, etc. This year I cleaned the powervalves, installed a tether, did the skid bushings, and more.
I have been trying to find out do these need any protection when studding the track? I have searched for tunnel protectors for my 2018 switchback 800 XCR and cant find anything. Thanks.
I have a 2017 adventure 600. Im about 220 dressed with helmet. Is that machine similar to a pro s or x ? Im thinking about putting 100 pound springs in the front. would i have to change valving ? The machine has fox qs3 with the air shock in the back. any advise or suggestions ?
i did. helps a lot in this chassis. have you gotten your shocks rebuilt/revalved? if not we would highly recommend sending them to Bruce and have him go through it. Thanks!
@@JESSEJAMES322 I have not had them rebuilt yet. I was going to do it this year but money is tight right now. I live in maine, do you know how much it would cost? I know shipping is probably going to be pricey but if I had a idea on how much bruce charges to rebuild all 4 shocks I might be able to.
so shipping will be 20ish if you go to UPS. its normally 25 from jersey where i live. re revalve a shock its $95 per shock. I rebuild so no valving change i believe is $45 per shock
Really depends on preference. Video link below will show you what we do on the new sleds. I’d start with half a hole and go from there th-cam.com/video/pPMfgxW0jj8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wdaBqFfMYiy_M85A
they looked weird to some but they worked well! if you havent had shocks done in the last 2K miles i would recommend sending them into bruce to get them freshened up
problem with these is they are so soft we recommend everything all the way stiff but when you do that then they get rigid. we really recommend having these shocks revalved and some spring changes then we can finee tune the set up but with stock components (especially with some miles) its very hard to get them set up
Great video. I bought a 16 Rush last winter and struggled to get the suspension right. This summer i had Bruce rebuild my shocks and redo the valving and springs. Anxious to get it out on the snow this winter. Need some advice on putting a rack on back. I like the OEM rack for the Switchback but supposedly it wont fit the Rush. I think? the connection bolts under the seat are different? Will this rack fit on a Rush or how difficult is it to make it fit? Anyone have any experience or advice?
you will be a very happy camper when you ride for the first time! Will be a completely different sled. and i am unsure. I would call Southside and talk to one of the parts guys, they will be able to get you all squared away!
Would Fox QS3 Shock work well in this chassis? I am about 275lbs and ride moderately aggressive. I have a ProRide Chassis sled so slightly different than the Axys but close. The QS3s just seem more simple and the change in ride quality is more noticeable.
Yes they will. when i had this chassis i ran them and still needed some valving to get them were i wanted them but they were great once i did. problem is you cant get them anymore
Good evening Jesse, picked up a 18 800 Pro-S 137 at the end of the season. It just rolled to 2000 miles, don't have time to get shocks rebuilt and new springs for this season, I am 250 lb rider, where do you suggest to start for making adjustments until I can get shocks redone for next season. I am a fairly aggressive trail rider
Hey Gene. With no snow in the forecast and Bruce getting them sent back to you in under a week I’d say you’ll have time!! But I get It. Problem is either your weight there’s not much to be done on stock components. I would start clickers in the middle. 1/2 inch of preload of front and rear and try that until You can get everything gone through
Have Bruce do a video with the axys assaults. I’m still fighting mine. I need todo the front HD springs but I’ve been told running my FTS on 3-4 is way to soft but when I dial it up it’s so stiff it seems and harsh. Plus I get mad inside ski lift all the time. I have to really hang off to keep it down
The axys assault is the same as the Matryx. They already have 100 pound front ski springs. I would send your shocks into him and have them revalved. This way you get more range through the clickers. Inside ski lift can be limited with shortening the limiter strap and cranking the ski springs to max preload
@@JESSEJAMES322 yea my fronts are already maxed but they still seem soft. Front clickers I run like 6-8 depending on snow. I try to leave the rear where’s its at. TS are on max hard now, I used to run soft but the inside flip up gets rough sometimes. I have to really really work to keep up with guys now and keep the ski down. May have to shorten strap even though I like the super playful wheelies and slight ski lift
Hey Jess my wifes 2020 polaris pro S 600 has i think maybe a bad shock my local guy rebuilt it this year it didn't last 300 miles he rebuilt it again it didn't make it through the first ride is it something my guy is doing wrong or is it possible the shock is unrebuldable??? Its factory walker Evans i have the 19 pro s no problems
nope they are rebuildable. Must be something he is doing or some issue he is not seeing. best advise i can give is to send them into bruce and have him go through them. Thanks
@@JESSEJAMES322 thank you he definitely is missing something he didn't charge me for the second rebuild so yes ill send all my shocks to Bruce!!! Pray 🙏 to the snow gods hope we have a ton of snow we need it!!
Great video guys! I loved the Pro R until the AXYS came out. I had a 2015 AXYS Pro X 800. I beat the bag out of it. I changed out the sway bar to alleviate the tippyness. Thanks for this video!
I love listening to Bruce talk.
hes a wizard!
That “weird” looking rear suspension is what sold me on my ‘18 xcr. Still love it. Had the shocks done and it is alarming how good that sled goes through the rough tug hill moguls. The track strap shortening is necessary. Like you guys I did everything to not shorten it but when I did it felt like the typical negatives weren’t as prominent as the increase in steering
The sleds work so so so we’ll when they are set up right. I absolutely loved mine when I got It where I wanted!
I've got a '16 Pro-S 600 Switchback. Already running the 100 lb springs up front, 130 lb spring on the RTS & stock spring on the FTS. I added a Trac-Link adjustable front limiter strap and have worked with shortening the strap length. Shocks are stock valving & have been refreshed a few times. My only complaint is the exact issue shown here with the "tippyness". How do I get ahold of Bruce to get my shocks to him? Looks like this may be the cure I've been looking for. Thanks for the video!!
Thanks for following along. I will post a link at the end of this comment that is a link to the shock service page pf Southsides website. There is a form you need to fill out to send in with your shocks. The tippyness of because of the needles in the front shocks. he can fix all of that for you. any questions let me know!
www.southsidesales.com/snowmobile-shocks
Awesome!! Thanks for the help here!!@@JESSEJAMES322
I love my 19` XCR 850 - rips great and needs the shocks gone through. I've got a 24' XCR 850 on order so that sled is going to my wife with my 7 year old son, I'll probably have to get a bigger rear spring on there to hold the extra weight...
You should send the shocks into Bruce to be refreshed and he will be able to help you with the spring also. We do all suspension stuff there. whatever is needed
Just got done going thru my Buds GF's Anniversary Rush 600. All new suspension bearings etc. (Summer service etc.) I own a '16 600 SB. Completely rebuilt suspension, shocks by Monster 800mi. ago. This year I'm trying a Hygear dual FT spring and a 150# on the rear. The 130# wasn't enough. (I weighed my rack and gear and came up with another 45lbs. to add to my 230-235.) Should be interesting. My question is this: Which hole would you start out at with the limiter strap? When I had the skid out this summer it was in the 2nd hole. (OEM?) When I installed the FTS, (with 0 preload) I needed to crank down my Trac-Linc limiter strap just to get the bolt back in the 1st hole of the OEM strap. If I crank it down to get to hole 2, I'm going to lose shock travel. I just want a recommendation on where to start with the strap. I don't want a wheelie machine, and I want it to turn. PS I still have the 80# IFS springs and I think they're good.
in the future i would give Bruce a shot to do your shocks. We really have set ups for these sleds down and ready to go. with the Trac Link LImiter strap i am unsure where to tell you to go because that changes the length of the strap. you would have ti put OEM on there in it original holes (service manual shoukd show you which was OEM) and then we recomend going a half a hole distance to start. Ive done that video on my channel 2 times now so youll have ti go back and watch them!
I will consider having Bruce do my shocks after next season. It seems he is a man with copious amounts of Polaris experience and knows what he talks about. The Pro-S, unlike the XCR, only has a limiter strap on the left side. I put my TrackLink strap on the right side. When I installed the FTS this summer, I used the TrackLink to crank down the spring just enough to get the OEM strap back in the first hole at the top. When I removed the strap before, it was in the 2nd hole. I would need to compress the shock further to get it into the 2nd hole further reducing suspension travel. If that's the OEM hole, so be it, especially if Bruce ends up turning it down from there. The TrackLink makes this a much easier job than drilling holes! I'll look in my shop manual download to see if it shows what hole is OEM. I just want a base to start from this winter so I don't spend all winter fighting/adjusting the handling like I did last winter!@@JESSEJAMES322
PS: When I said suspension rebuilt, only the shocks were done by Monster after I purchased the sled used w/3k on it April of '22. I changed the OEM 120# rear spring to a 130# but it wasn't enough. I went thru the rest of it myself, new bearings (Japan), Northstar A-arm bushings, solid inner wheels for the studs I installed, etc. This year I cleaned the powervalves, installed a tether, did the skid bushings, and more.
I have been trying to find out do these need any protection when studding the track? I have searched for tunnel protectors for my 2018 switchback 800 XCR and cant find anything. Thanks.
these do not!
@@JESSEJAMES322 Thanks
My daily driver is a '17 800 Pro S. They were/are awesome on trail!
great sled!
I have a 2017 adventure 600. Im about 220 dressed with helmet. Is that machine similar to a pro s or x ? Im thinking about putting 100 pound springs in the front. would i have to change valving ? The machine has fox qs3 with the air shock in the back. any advise or suggestions ?
ill have to see if they already have 100's up front. i have two of them in my dads fleet and theyre great to set up!
Did you pull the strap up on your xcr in this style? I have a 19 xcr 850 and I would like it to corner better.
i did. helps a lot in this chassis. have you gotten your shocks rebuilt/revalved? if not we would highly recommend sending them to Bruce and have him go through it. Thanks!
@@JESSEJAMES322 I have not had them rebuilt yet. I was going to do it this year but money is tight right now. I live in maine, do you know how much it would cost? I know shipping is probably going to be pricey but if I had a idea on how much bruce charges to rebuild all 4 shocks I might be able to.
so shipping will be 20ish if you go to UPS. its normally 25 from jersey where i live. re revalve a shock its $95 per shock. I rebuild so no valving change i believe is $45 per shock
@@JESSEJAMES322 awesome thanks, I appreciate it.
Also how much do I pull the strap up?
Really depends on preference. Video link below will show you what we do on the new sleds. I’d start with half a hole and go from there
th-cam.com/video/pPMfgxW0jj8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wdaBqFfMYiy_M85A
nothing weird once you dial them in . i have a 16 800 le 121 still super quick in the twisties, also a 18 800 137 still takes the big hits well
they looked weird to some but they worked well! if you havent had shocks done in the last 2K miles i would recommend sending them into bruce to get them freshened up
Can you do an actual suspension set up video on it like you did with the newer sleds
problem with these is they are so soft we recommend everything all the way stiff but when you do that then they get rigid. we really recommend having these shocks revalved and some spring changes then we can finee tune the set up but with stock components (especially with some miles) its very hard to get them set up
Great video. I bought a 16 Rush last winter and struggled to get the suspension right. This summer i had Bruce rebuild my shocks and redo the valving and springs. Anxious to get it out on the snow this winter.
Need some advice on putting a rack on back. I like the OEM rack for the Switchback but supposedly it wont fit the Rush. I think? the connection bolts under the seat are different? Will this rack fit on a Rush or how difficult is it to make it fit? Anyone have any experience or advice?
you will be a very happy camper when you ride for the first time! Will be a completely different sled. and i am unsure. I would call Southside and talk to one of the parts guys, they will be able to get you all squared away!
No, the Axys cargo rack will NOT fit the Rush. Need the 137' Switchback to get into those accessories.
Pretty creative, i have two of these in my group 👍👍
theyre great sleds!
Would Fox QS3 Shock work well in this chassis? I am about 275lbs and ride moderately aggressive. I have a ProRide Chassis sled so slightly different than the Axys but close. The QS3s just seem more simple and the change in ride quality is more noticeable.
Yes they will. when i had this chassis i ran them and still needed some valving to get them were i wanted them but they were great once i did. problem is you cant get them anymore
@@JESSEJAMES322 I was just wondering if I found some at a swap meet or something, whether they would work.
@@JESSEJAMES322 Would it really be worthwhile to switch the front track if you did find them, or wouldn’t matter.
absolutely be worthwhile. wouldnt make sense to do the other 3 and then leave that one. want to have them all match if possible
@@JESSEJAMES322 Ok. Would the 100 lb springs still be your recommended spring for the front?
Good evening Jesse, picked up a 18 800 Pro-S 137 at the end of the season. It just rolled to 2000 miles, don't have time to get shocks rebuilt and new springs for this season, I am 250 lb rider, where do you suggest to start for making adjustments until I can get shocks redone for next season. I am a fairly aggressive trail rider
Hey Gene. With no snow in the forecast and Bruce getting them sent back to you in under a week I’d say you’ll have time!! But I get It. Problem is either your weight there’s not much to be done on stock components. I would start clickers in the middle. 1/2 inch of preload of front and rear and try that until You can get everything gone through
thanks Jesse i will give that a try to start once we get some snow here in Michigan, not looking good anytime soon@@JESSEJAMES322
First.great looking sled.
thanks for watching!!
Have Bruce do a video with the axys assaults. I’m still fighting mine. I need todo the front HD springs but I’ve been told running my FTS on 3-4 is way to soft but when I dial it up it’s so stiff it seems and harsh. Plus I get mad inside ski lift all the time. I have to really hang off to keep it down
The axys assault is the same as the Matryx. They already have 100 pound front ski springs. I would send your shocks into him and have them revalved. This way you get more range through the clickers. Inside ski lift can be limited with shortening the limiter strap and cranking the ski springs to max preload
@@JESSEJAMES322 yea my fronts are already maxed but they still seem soft. Front clickers I run like 6-8 depending on snow. I try to leave the rear where’s its at. TS are on max hard now, I used to run soft but the inside flip up gets rough sometimes. I have to really really work to keep up with guys now and keep the ski down. May have to shorten strap even though I like the super playful wheelies and slight ski lift
how many miles are on your shocks?
@@JESSEJAMES322 about 2500 now I think.
yea so youll definitely want them all to be serviced/re-valved
www.southsidesales.com/snowmobile-shocks
Hey Jess my wifes 2020 polaris pro S 600 has i think maybe a bad shock my local guy rebuilt it this year it didn't last 300 miles he rebuilt it again it didn't make it through the first ride is it something my guy is doing wrong or is it possible the shock is unrebuldable??? Its factory walker Evans i have the 19 pro s no problems
nope they are rebuildable. Must be something he is doing or some issue he is not seeing. best advise i can give is to send them into bruce and have him go through them. Thanks
@@JESSEJAMES322 thank you he definitely is missing something he didn't charge me for the second rebuild so yes ill send all my shocks to Bruce!!! Pray 🙏 to the snow gods hope we have a ton of snow we need it!!
i am hoping! Make sure to follow the link below. There is a form that is needed to send the shocks in!
www.southsidesales.com/snowmobile-shocks
@@JESSEJAMES322 thanks keep up the awesome content and hope to see ya on the trails!!!
sounds good!!! Thanks for following along!
My parents own a rush pro s 600 and i love it i own a 07 phazer
the pro s rush was a big hit back in the day
Great video guys! I loved the Pro R until the AXYS came out. I had a 2015 AXYS Pro X 800. I beat the bag out of it.
I changed out the sway bar to alleviate the tippyness.
Thanks for this video!
PRO X was a monster! lot of people loved that sled because of the suspension! thanks for watching and following along!