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How to make money in low margin public services:
1. Jack up prices
2. Cut the service
3. Take on huge debts to pay dividends
4. Bail out before it collapses (with your golden parachute)
5. Apologise at a select committee
6. Repeat
Your comment was a peach , so so true , never a truer word spoken .
I want nationalised public services.
I'm worried that even if we nationalise these services I think unless we have a fundamental shift in our society they will eventually be privatised again.
7. And then leave politics to earn a huge salary as a consultant in the private sector (a favour you are owed by the buisnesses that benefitted from the lucrative contracts you gave them) and you are laughing all the way to an offshore bank.
They call that a bust out.
Truth
I love Aaron. He's very fair and careful about what he says, especially on GB News. Which is very hard.
Agree - he is phenomenal
@@Gazzaroo he doesn't fall for traps. Otherwise he'll just be written off as a "crazy leftie loonie" or whatever phrase is popular.
you call this winning over 😂
@@ravd8082 they both agreed with him after him stating his point. how is that not wining over?
She wasn't so much "convinced" by Aaron (who is great, btw) as (to her credit) aware that there is just no reasonable argument to defend the position.
It's good to see people being able to admit when something doesn't work so well , even when it contradicts their beliefs .
As Aaron pointed out, this seems to be shift to stay with popular opinion.
Accepted they are aware enough to shift in order to maintain their popularity.
When the facts change I change my mind. What do you do sir? Digging a deeper hole as most brexiters do for example only compounds mistakes made. Privatising critical public services is not a good idea. Companies will always cut services and corners to churn out a profit defeating the purpose of public utility and services.
@@lamestreammedia3154 Isn’t it obvious? Brexit has been a disaster and yet many hardliners keep digging a deeper hole rather than admit their mistake. Likewise privatising things like water services was a mistake for which there is plenty of evidence now showing that. In the face of this evidence there are still plenty who will insist it was still the right thing to do. I’m not sure what you didn’t get about that.
well leftwing people never admit ever that they are wrong
Mainstream media still protecting the faccines and defending lockdowns despite data and injured people speaking out!!
I'm GB news fan as I dislike all media except some independent journalists!
From "are you going to take me down the nationalisation route" to "I think I'm one of the ones that want nationalisation" in less than 2 minutes. They really will say anything won't they
Her producer whispered in her ear.
More than that. "I like capitalism. I like the whole capitalist mentality. Gordon Gekko said greed is good when I was 8 years old and just look at me now in my designer glasses". If people weren't suffering the consequences of her silliness right now id be laughing my head off.
I suspect most GB news viewers are social conservatives, not free marketeers. Free marketeers seem to only really exist in political parties and think tanks.
She DID say "I'm warming to it". Please quote properly not leaving words out.
The other guy trying to use covid and working from home is disingenuous at best. Clearly he's never been on a train in the last two years. They are crammed full and often dangerously over full!
Return all Public services to the Public, all profits returned to the services enabling Apprenticeships, long term employment, Staff housing and self respect
and investment in ifrastructure were desperately need!
Couldn't agree more.
Not necessarily this poster, but certainly others, have suggested running Public Services as non-profit making organisations with the profits going to the government.
What exactly do they think a non-profit making organisation is?
How could they invest in the future if not making money?
Pension funds would suffer affecting virtually everyone in one way or another.
No Corporation Tax.
Currently, only the NHS is run this way - how much profit does that make?
I agree. I've worked for my local authority since Compulsive Competitive Tendering act was passed in 1980! A lot of local authority infrastructure is falling or fallen apart now.
I don't agree with staff housing, but I agree with the rest of your post @colinhowarth.
It's amazing how a certain Mr Jeremy Corbyn is being proved right, at so many levels. Well argued Aaron.
Yet those at the top hobnobbing with Murdoch are still crowing about the fact all the corbynites have left the party. I'm.a long time labour supporter. Now I despise most of the Plp.
@@patcampton7163 I can well understand that. Corbyn offered hope, yet the powerful wouldn't give an inch; their greed and thirst for control is limitless.
Spot on.
I've always stood with Jeremy Corbyn and always will
@@HIFIKOOL I would never say "always will" about anyone/anything. You immediately trap yourself.
Rail, water, energy... Get them all back into public ownership. They all fundamentally underpin and support our people and the economy. To have them in private, and often foreign, ownership is insane.
Always thought this and fully agree with you. I'll vote for a party that commits to doing this.
Jeremy Corbyn supported the public ownership of our essential services but the present labour position is that we don't own them and can't afford to buy them back.
So it seems the gas and oil below our feet and seas, the rain that falls on our hills and lakes, even the wind that blows across our fields and mountains do not belong to us. Sure, the companies who own them and operate them will sell the products back to us at market prices while making a handsome profit and paying little heed to protecting our environment or river s and beaches.
This is absurd!
I agree, but I don't understand the relevance of foreign ownership. All publicly traded companies have foreign ownership through their shareholders. That doesn't make them any better or worse.
If its ok for rich people to suck hundreds of billions of pounds out of the pockets of working people and break essential services in the process, then why would it not be ok for similar amounts of money to be suck back out of the possession of those millionaires to pay for fixing what they broke?
I am waiting for people to realise that we've got so much money, land and capital being funneled to the top, but no real mechanisms to redistribute any of it. What is the end result?
@@djdrogs The end result is some form of revolution, or more frighteningly a large war to distract the masses and "draw us together" against a common enemy, that isn't the real enemy.
I worked in the Glasgow water department ,years ago, and the system was being constantly repaired And improved. The control of water quality was paramount.
Full marks to Aaron Bastani for his GB News input. PS I've forgiven him for occasionally having a dig at us old baby boomers!
My folks are boomers too. Maybe we should start a 'not all boomers' campaign. Clearly it's just a small section of very rich boomers that have caused all the problems, because all the boomers I know are good people 😁
@@JeffVader why not? There will be no tennis when the world is on fire
@@pseudonayme7717 Yes.Ageism is discriminatory. There would be statues of Thatcher everywhere if it wasn't for people like me!!!
@@JeffVaderWhy can't the British lighten up a bit? Imagine thinking someone screwing with a game of tennis isn't hilarious.. Tennis is boring.
@chuckspencer8540 Gen X but stil a fellow Freedom Fighter from those Dark Times, the fire still burns brightly but have gone to 48v cordless breaker on standby as the sledge hammers plays havoc with my tennis elbow these days 😉👊✊
Total sense. Excellent analysis.
Well spoken Aaron -
just the right language to explain the issue to general public viewers
Any service that is a necessity for somebody to live their life, shouldn't be privatised and operated under the capitalist system. If anybody can make a profit on something "I can take it or leave it", then good on them.
Tax avoidance; whether it be legal or illegal; is a massive problem in this country. As soon as you become self-employed, you enter into the system of tax avoidance. How else will an accountant make money. I'm in the PAYE system and, my self-employed friends laugh at me, for the amount of tax & NI I pay. As they live a far better lifestyle, un-yet pay a fraction of the tax & NI I do. They don't want to pay into the system and fill their pockets, un-yet when they want to use the services, they're the first ones to moan about the service they're not getting. There's massive inequality across our society.
True. Furlough was a tax rebate. And the gobshite loadsamoney types got a shock when they got back what they'd paid in, ie: fuck all. Me, I was on 100% of my pay, with a portion of my phone, Internet and electricity bills paid whilst doing my public sector job from home.
My experience also unfortunately.
Aaron - thanks so much for being such an eloquent speaker, accessing substantial research - and making information so widely accessible on our behalf.
Youre a true gift to the uk 😁
Similarly, in the USA pretty much every politician is against "socialism" but everyone supports Social Security
Maybe because politicians are more than comfortable financially and know if they don't provide pennies (cake)for the poor, then the poor will come for them.
They live socialism actually….. only when it’s corporate welfare
Yes of course why wouldn't they?
But socialism and social security are not the same.
@@PORRRIDGE_GUN it’s a compromise to protect capitalist interests that came from socialism
in 30 seconds she flipped? Does she actually believe what she says or does she just say what they think people want to hear
How long should it take? What's the minimum?
She doesn’t believe it. She’s from Hull and she’s sensible (apart from Brexit). But they pay her…
How could the hard right argue against Aaron's good common sense and truth anyway!?
@@MrDesmondPot That is your prejudice, not theirs. Have you seen GB News? They have Nana Akua, black with a foreign-sounding name, and others.
@@MrDesmondPotWhat a silly comment
When you can find agreement with the populist right, then something is really starting to happen
You sometimes see Bernie Sanders do this kind of thing
Scotland nationalised it's trains in March 2022.
P.R. means four parties have been part of government and the Tories haven't.
Powers, time and money limited but it's better than FPTP.
Also have never sold our water, that's a public necessity. Tories and Labour would sell air if it was possible.
I have been saying this for years. Time to renationalise and put service over profits.
Aaron you're such an impressive speaker for presenting facts and ideas in a way that lets people come to their own conclusions, without making them feel foolish for not knowing before.
Good work Aaron!
Aaron, Michael, Ash et al A force to be reckoned with. Intelligence, patience knowledge. ❤❤❤❤. Novara is the best. Thank you.
We should not be propping up these companies with our taxes.
Great work Aaron. Its time for all the shareholders to loose their privatised UBI schemes and get onto a national UBI scheme with the rest of us.
It's shocking that hardly anyone can see how privatised vital services cannot work. Except for the 1%.
WATER! MY GOD! HOW TO CAPTURE THE POPULATION OF YOUR COUNTRY
Well, I mean, in theory... if it was REGULATED PROPERLY. If you have a monopoly that is REGULATED well by government, then it could work.
But what tends to happen is that the COMPANY tells the GOVERNMENT how to regulate it.
When I first started working in the water industry in 1984, my particular firm was privately owned and had been for a hundred years.
However it was what was termed a statutory water company. A victorian social model I think.
Investors were given a fairly low, capped but almost guaranteed dividend provided there was enough profit remaining after all legal requirements, infrastructure investments, operating and maintenance costs were subtracted. Because investments were capped, there was no incentive to cut operating costs because investors would not receive greater dividends.
Additionally if profits were so large that there was money left after all operating costs and dividends were paid, this would be returned to the consumer as a bill reduction.
People who invested were the likes of pension funds that wanted a stable investment even though the returns were not massive.
1989 and Thatcher saw the end of this legacy business model in favour of the rampant profiteering that we have seen since.
Sounds like we need a model which draws on the best of both and eliminates the drawbacks of each. I naiively thought that the 'social enterprise' model was supposed to do this, although its application has been considerably limited. After all, nowadays 'greed is good'!
Michelle Dewsbury speaks her mind, it's rather cynical to claim she's just after viewer approval.
Part of the problem is OFWAT’s abject failure to fulfill their brief for far too long
I would be wary of saying you won her over. She seemed pretty combative up to the point where the guy on the other side basically agreed with you, though he didn't really agree as much as he seemed to have come into the debate with that pre-conceived talking point. It seems like she realised at that point what she was supposed to be promoting, and made a course correction to go along with the narrative.
Honestly, the way the mainstream media operates is so transparent these days it's sickening. That said, good on Aaron for arguing the facts, because while the show itself was a farce, I can totally believe that you got through to some of their audience, especially when the points were reinforced by the shills that are there to preach at them.
Yh.. when he made it ok to say patriotic people can support nationalisation , she switched.
When they privatised a public service monopoly what did they think would happen…. Ridiculous.
Bastani is just too well informed, too articulate, too intelligent, too thoughtful for GB news hosts. I know that is not saying much (GB news hosts are simply brexthick) but he is.
Aaron i just love that passion. Well said., you lead we are ready to follow as we agreed
Scotrail covers all of Scotland. It came back into public hands last year. I’ve never heard a bad word about it since. Previously the Dutch company Abelio had the contract, and they were constantly barracked for bad service.
We also have to remember that in the period of nationalised water, investment went DOWN, under both Parties.
We need MUNICIPAL ownership - locally owned and worker run enterprises. We have a pretty amazing heritage of local, municipal services in this country that ideologies of capitalism and Labourist centralisation wants to remain hidden.
Interesting point
Its nice to hear proper Leftwing fighting talk finally!! Some pretty powerful sentiments at the end there!!
Aaron Bastani is a very impressive human.
👌Mr Bastani 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍👍🌻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
She only started agreeing when the Brexit Party guy started speaking out against the state of the railway industry.
She saw which way the wind was blowing and adjusted. If he'd spoken up in defence of the industry, she wouldn't have said a word against it.
She was outnumbered on both flanks.
Always remember Shes Simon Jordans partner. Two blowhards desperate for media attention and bandwagon jumpers
Is a flank slang for a brain cell?
@@highdownmartin 😂
Aaron always gets me so fired up. Legend!
Thanx to Mick Lynch ! Everyone understands the situation of railways and sympathises, because he is there.
Whose fight and public words have stopped the manipulation of the media and bul… from the tories.
More like him needed a national treasure .
The train fares are so high I no longer can afford them . I had a senior pass at the beginning ing of covid 3 year one I did not get a rebate as I was not able to use it They are not customer oriented only shareholders. Time to take them back.
GB news is great for hosting a wide range of views. Not sure why a lot of Novara viewers have such a dislike for the news station when they give them more of a platform to their views than any other media outlet. I am definitely not a lefty but I do like Aaron and see eye to eye with him on some things and admire his decorum when having discussions.
because defaulting to presenting those views as fact is beyond disingenuous. Worse still, it works.
@@deadwinglullaby Can you elaborate a bit? I’m not sure what you mean.
@@jamieashwell2583 what part of what I said are you struggling with?
@@deadwinglullaby Which views? Aarons? Michelle’s?
@@jamieashwell2583 I'm not referring to this segment specifically, but the general practices and rhetoric of GB news that have been thoroughly debunked, picked apart, and even regulated.
Good work, Aaron. 👍
❤👌 spot on Aaron.
Aaron is such a smooth-talking bastard! The poor woman didn't stand a chance.
Aaron and Michael are on gb news all the time god even ken livingstone and Peter tatchell are regular guests
Aaron Bastani Should run his own party and be PM!
Well done Aaron!!
Aaron is Great 👍
private companies should never be allowed into public ownership ventures i.e NHS, Rail, Water, Gas, Energy you name it and if they are there should be heavy regulation so they can't make huge profit margins for less quality of service. Service first profit last.
When I was young, the highest marginal tax rate as 19/6 in the £ under a Conservative government. I would not advocate for that rate, but there should be a much higher rate on incomes of more than £1 million.
Aaron's home is beautifully decorated, so well done. The colors, everything!!
Thanks letting everyone know
Just to note how he mentioned conservative patriots, like you can only be patriotic if you vote Tory.
Blatant propaganda in plain sight but it's always little by little do many don't notice
Well spoken, Aaron 🙏
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The story about Boots is a textbook case of privatisation by the back door. And also goes some way to explain the way the NHS seems to waste money by design these days.
The NHS will eventually be sold off completely I think, a natural consequence, it is wholly unsustainable to employ 1.5m people and have them retire on wicked pensions.
It isn't Boots any more. It's Walgreen Boots Alliance; Walgreens is a US company with no social conscience whatsoever.
Keep going on GB News Aaron ❤
Congratulations Aaron. 🎉
take that moment with a pinch of salt, that presenter did date a Bangladeshi man before despite her now typical gbnews views on immigration now. easy to persuade.
Extraordinary 😮
Well explained Aaron
If the water companies are nationalised then any debts owned by those companies should be the responsibility of the shareholders and the lenders, when water was privatised the water companies were sold at a massive discount , they were purchased for 30% of their true value and sold totally debt free. They are a national disaster, here in Wadhurst recently we have had 3 days without water, and some residents locally have had intermitent supply for up to 28 days. The problem was so bad a public meeting was organised this last Thursday with the CEO of South East Water and 2 more of their high ranking employees, as you can imagine the locals were furious about the lame excuses we were given by the SEW representatives, the usual promises of we must do better and profuse apologies went over the audiences heads because when you can't shower, wash your dirty laundry and flush your toilets for days on end it just isn't funny and I don't think they (SEW) got it !!
I remember this woman presenter on Sky, when they used to host The Pledge. She used to try and pretend like she was a centrist particularly during the Brexit referendum- but you could tell she was as rabid right winger. Strange though isn't it- anything that could help normal people is deemed as dangerous and communist. A fair wage, health, transport, not dumping sewage in our waterways to name a few.
Why why why isn't Keir Starmer advocating Nationalisation for vital industries?
I can't see a downside. We've got shit customer service, sewage and rising bills. Who's benefitting? Perhaps rich people 🤔
Surely Starmers not prioritising the rich..... is he?
Its grate when its explained like that Excellent stuff. Privatizing in Briton has bread poverty beyond balief
I’m a socialist, and I believe that capitalism has a place in society, so long as it’s regulated. Unfettered capitalism, or neoliberalism as it is more commonly known, (I call it naked greed) is the real problem.
You're not a socialist, if you believe in private ownership. You're a social democrat, which is a type of liberal. Níl aon cheist faoi
@@cujimmi you're not a capitalist, unless you own capital. You're a supporter of capitalism, much like slavery had supporters who benefited from it as others suffered
@@cujimmi good for you. Perhaps less so for those whose labor you exploit, and for the society built in your image
@@cujimmi those you pay less than the value of their labor, as per the reward system in capitalism prioritizing the owners, ahead of the workers.
You have to spend money to make money, which explains why the rich build their fortunes as the worker class falls into penury
@@cujimmi nobody's ever said that. The point of abolishing private capital is to divvy out the profits democratically, along with the executive decisions in the structure of society, because capitalism is incompatible with democracy, as the world proves over and over daily
Aaron can talk his way out of a paper bag. I once saw him explain why the UK should abandon FPTP and in the next breath explain why we should adopt a Singapore style government. He's so slick he gets away with it.
The peepul who ran these companies should be in jail , state ownership of utilities has been mocked for decades but now the policies of Tory/orange privatisation huv ran aground along with most other policies set in place by Tory /orange
Nice one Aaron. That's oracy for ya!
What a great analysis of the Tory ideas going wrong time after time !!!
Aaron is spot on , private wi always be centered on profit, weather it be a private prison or rail company. But how on earth do they keep raising prices using less staff , and still get in massive debt ????
Privatisation can only ever work if there are no shareholders involved (limited by guarantee companies).
Utilities and public services should not be at the mercy of shareholders.
Well done Aaron you nailed it , but why wouldn’t you you speak the truth
Superb from Aaron
profit is good! Briliant insight. Thank you for sharing.
That conversation at the GBNews studio was quite astonishing!
I wish we had a Novara media equivalent in the United States
Utterly true and undeniable statement, "It started with Thatcher..."
As she says in one of the GB News adverts, sometimes things come up in the debate that make her change her mind.
Hopefully people will remember that privatisation doesn’t always work and will not let privatisation of new inappropriate industries happen in the future
The first question that ppl should ask is why was it nationalised in the first place. Then really think about it and look at what happens when privatisation happens.
@@dianacasey6002 Whatever was first always belonged to the public. This is why property is theft and privatization too.
@@kobemop also because it was more efficient and less exploitive to have things in public ownership. Greedy badly run governments usually on the right sell them to pay debts they run up through their greed and general stupidity.
But reality is with privatisation for so long it becoming more and more apparent the corruption and failures of privatisation
We need a new deal! Imagine the shock and probably recession the public would face if government actually bailed out/propped up all the failing industries, privately owned, that are vital for a well functioning society. Public coffers would be decimated and the disgrace of private ownership would be manifest. WE NEED A NEW DEAL.
Well done Aaron he now has GB news and to brexiteers in favour of nationalisation only has to do now is to convince sir Keir starmer new Labour party to commit to nationalisation of the utilities good luck with that
Fat chance. Keir Starmer will only do it if he thinks it will help him win.
Tony Blair promised to re-nationalise the rail industry before he came in, and we know what happened there. What a scumbag. i fear Starmer is the same.
I've never heard so much sense spoken, Britain is broken and it started with Thatcher!
All essential services must and have to be State owned Energy, water, transportation and communication. Nobody would minds small increases of fees if they know that the money will be used to improve infrastructure and not to line individuals pockets.
I wish politicians would stop trying to tell us that privatisation makes things more efficient. I worked for large corporate businesses, and they are more inefficient - they have the luxury of hiding their inefficiencies through tax breaks etc. whereas public ownership is taxpayers' money and traceability is more transparent.
Seems like a handily relatable argument against privatising the NHS too. Would you want hospitals ran like the trains, buses, water, energy companies or Royal Mail?
We need a clawback mechanism to return all the taxpayer's money that's been syphoned of into the pockets of these pirates and racketeers through the privatisation of public services and utilities. This needs to be a priority for the next Labour government. The country can't afford to keep haemorrhaging money as it has and the government just turn a blind eye as if it doesn't matter.
I live in a rural area, and relatively regularly we have water outages and power cuts that can last up to 7 days. For a water outages you get a maximum compensation in one year of £25. These water outages, stop you being able to cook, wash, drink and flush the toilet. The roads are practically un-drivable due to potholes and the trains constantly delayed. There have been reports of massive sewage leaks into seas and waterways. The basic infrastructure in this country is crumbling, literally.
No one who appears in this is old enough to remember the dreadful state the public utilities were in before privatisation-railways, in particular, for all their present faults, are far better than they were at the end of the nationalisation era.
Both the nationalised and privatised models of running public utilities have therefore failed in my 76 years of life, and to imagine that simply renationalising them is the answer is, I am afraid, looking at the matter with rose-tinted spectacles: a better partnership between the State and private industry has to be found-for instance, I only recently learned that the cost of servicing loans to the Water companies is allowed by Ofwat as a charge when establishing a fair price, without, as I understand it, ensuring that those loans are used for investment in the company, rather than paying shareholders-if that is true it is a lunatic piece of regulation which is not only clearly open to a abuse, but has been, predictably, severely exploited.
The Civil Service mind is not ideally suuted to running trading companies, but it should be capable of promulgating regulations which are not so obviously capable of exploitation at the cost of the public.
Its so easy as to why something should publicly owned or private is simple. 1. Will there be real competition for the service? 2. Can the service be allowed fail and go bust. If the answer is no to either then it should be in public ownership.
I’m for nationalisation of Water, and Railways
Privatising monopolies made no logic from the beginning
Many people who would be regarded as right wing, such as Peter Hitchens, have been saying for years, that British Rail should never have been privatised, and needs to be be Re-nationalised.
Nationalise Water , Energy , Transport , Social Care , NHS . We need Corbyns 2019 policies
Stop buying and Subscribing to The Daily Mail, The Daily Express and the Telegraph and stop watching GB News , Talk Tv and the UK will be a better place .
Minimum requirement for a presenter on a news programme is surely stringing a fluent sentence together
Its not the government that is propping up the industry... its us. Our money going to the shareholders whether we use this service or not.
Yes this was a great one 👏💯
It's the same each time with progress. First they ignore you, then they say you're mad, then dangerous, then there's a pause and then you can't find anyone who disagrees with you.
Tony Benn.
1:54 "I am a capitalist" No you're not. You're a worker. What do you own that generates money for you? If you never traded your labour for money again, how long would it be until you were living penniless on the streets?
It has been clear to me for a while that there has been a growing number of people who both support left wing (what could be seen as left wing) domestic policies, but are also socially conservative. I’m personally part of the former category but not the latter one.
So there’s a growing number of people who on one hand support nationalising utilities and railways, increasing the minimum wage, redistributing wealth, but on the other want reduced immigration, reduced foreign aid, less ‘internationalism’ in general etc.
Yes, and there's a lot of that in the working class.
While the middle class tends to be THE OTHER WAY ROUND (liberal social values but not so keen on socialist economic policy).