I got one today, exact same model. I haven’t had it authenticated, but I got it from my dear neighbor who was in the US Navy. He told me that just after the Iron Curtain fell in the 90’s, he traded a Seiko to a Russian Air Commander for this Sturmanskie 31659. This is why I don’t really feel the need to have it authenticated. Not only is it a pleasure to own this piece but for it to carry the story and history it has makes me immensely grateful. Wonderful video, and so very interesting to find out about this watch I now have!
I never had someone who acknowledge my hobby of watches in my life as u did in that 10 seconds . It is a mental condition I am damn proud of thank you . *i do own a sturmanskie
AWESOME Vlog & Content...Now I am inspired to go on a treasure hunt for one of these to add to my ever growing collection of 23 years. THANK YOU for bringing us such a wonderful video to watch, I knew the answers to the question but the depth of knowledge you provided was amazing.
I really enjoyed this video, you did an awesome job. I got my Sturmanskie Sputnik a week ago and now can't wait to get this piece instead of that Bulova I used to like.
1:06 In fact... the Omega Speedmaster Automatic Triple Date was actually worn in space by Michael Gernhardt on STS-94 shuttle Columbia in July 1997... IMHO the Poljot 3133 & 31659 Shturmanskie chronographs are more important than the overhyped Omega Speedmaster... Checkout MoonwatchUniverse !
Great video about two underrated watches. Due to a video of craft and tailored and its comments I recently found out that the mk40 was in space as well!
Excellent and complete, yet brief review. I also appreciate the tips on identifying original from fakes as I am looking out for this model on eBay. I wanted an affordable, smaller sized chrono and this was one of the suggestions on a forum I am subscribed to. I would be interested in knowing where I can learn the other steps you mentioned to further identify an original.
Russian space watches are underrated and underappreciated AF. thanks for the video... hell, even that one swiss watch that went to space more than any omega and was (and still is?) extensively used by Roscosmos (yes, i'm talking about Fortis) is overlooked in favour of the never-went-to-the-moon "moonwatch" (talkin' about the (1)861s here, i'm no moon landing conspiracy nut :D)
Out of my 90+ watch collection (more than 30 Russian Vostok's etc.) this is the one i want. Well, with 3133 Okean. Bought my Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Professional sapphire in May 2023, got bored with it in September -23 and sold it..i think i need to go this Shturmanskie way now..quite a lot cheaper (and of course not Omega quality), but some more character.
WG, you mention that to be sure it's not a Frankenewatch the logos must have the correct orientation for the serial number ...where can I reference that information?
@@WatchGeek Thanks! You know Im from Hungary and Im living about 17 km from an ex russian military airbase. It was the "change" at 1989 as the russian army leave Hungary. At that time there was everything for sale and for buy from the russian soldiers. I own a watch like this since exactly 30 years ago, (maybe 31) it is still brandnew, I never wear it, the metal strap is still stiff, and sharp at the sidees, on the strap with the original paper tag, and all in an original paper box. Nice to see something about it. Thanks so much for your response. Best regards from Hungary!
No paragon between this two watches, would be like to compare a mercedes with a skoda; btw i like the great history of poljot, and would like to add a sturmanskie, in good working condition, at my little and poor collection!
Neither of these are the real space watch. Omega speedmaster is closer to being one, though. The mechanism 3133 in this sample of Sturmanskie was firstly launched in 1975, long after Gagarin's death. The "true" space watch, which Gagarin wore during his flight was "1MЧЗ" with 15 jewels and the hacking device.
When it comes to Gagarin you are right, but the this variant of Sturmanskie IS a space watch as it was worn by cosmonauts and the Japanese reporter to space and ti Mir space station. Gagarins watch was the first
Depends on the water resistance rating, if the watch is 100m water resistant like Zenith El Primero, you are ok, but you are not allowed to push the buttons under water
@@WatchGeek I see the figure of 3 atmospheres referenced for the 3133 Sturmanskie, but I'm not sure where that's coming from. Nowhere is water resistance listed on the case, and I've never seen a users manual. There is certainly a lot of mystery and charm around this watch.
I have a commemorative 1945 1985, "forty years of peace" Vostok Komandurskie with a hacking 2234 zakaz movement. Sold to military personnel I would love a Sturmanskie.
Speedmaster " Automatic " was never used in spaceflight and the Sthurmanskie 31659 was only used a few times in the late 1980s ( Soyuz TM-2 and Soyuz TM-4 and Soyuz TM-11 ) #MoonwatchUniverse
hi! I want to buy the Glycine combat sub 42 GL0087 as my next watch. What are your thoughts or advise on that ? It's not so popular (not that it matters to me) and idk why. Could be the fact that invicta owns glycine these days or something
@@WatchGeek i found a Dutch store through chrono24 and they made me an offer of 475 euros delivered to my door (romania) I'm not familiar with this chrono24 but looks like a legit site. I think they manage the transaction and everything. I guess i'll have to do some more research about it.
I think the info is not entirely accurate. Hacking function was added in 1986 and the rotating bezel was removed at the same time. I have a shturmanskie watch that I got from the guy who's uncle was a navigator of Tu-124 in the soviet airforce, the plane number is engraved on the back of it which is entirely flat and has no stampings, it has rotating bezel, no hacking function and stainless case. I saw a photo of his uncle wearing the watch with the actual plane in the background. I heard that military issue watches had a flat back case as opposed to the ones made for sale that had stamped case back.
But the real diagnosed watch fanatics will in fact know that this is not the Sturmanskie that Gagarin wore in space for the first time. That model was not a chronograph and so the fact that this model beat Omega into space is actually fake. Yes, Sturmanskie did beat Omega as a company in this race, but not this model. And also, Omega was the first watch on the Moon. So...
If you Listen to the video carefully you will see I said that, that youll be getting a watch from a BRAND that once beat Omega in the race to space. I even explain that Gagarins watch was a manual wind 17 jewel movement and that this was introduced I the 80's
Yes, now I remember when you said it, but if I knew and it wasn't clear for me, than for newbies it might be even worse. You should take this as constructive feedback.
For the precision, the watch worn by Gagarin was probably a Sturmanskie, but surely not a chronograph, it was a 2609 like this ( i.pinimg.com/originals/8f/ea/f4/8feaf4d3e060b372aedf2d41ad9727f2.jpg ) while the first watch worn in a space-walk, by Alexey Leonov in 1965, was a white-dial Poljot Strela ( zeitquest.com/public/img/watches/strela/strela-sekonda-chronograph-montage-1.jpg ). Shepard didn't have a wirstwatch, but a TAG Heurer stopwatch, so the first wirstwatch in space for the Americans was Glenn's Breitling Navitimer. Later the Omega Speedmaster became mandatory for NASA's space-walks (other watches could be used abroad), but notoriously, Dave Scott of Apollo 15 mission, worn a Bulova prototype on the Moon.
The first watch to go into orbit was a Pobeda 34-K. Soviet aerospace medical researcher Dr. Abraham Genin strapped his watch onto one of the dogs aboard Sputnik 4, about a month before Yuri Gagarin's mission.
Prefer the original Russian over the unoriginal Omega. (Google the design). The Russian is far more interesting to look at on top of its space credentials where the Omega only has that one thing going for it. I don't see the appeal. I think it's only popular at this point because enough people fell for the fact that a few built it up.
Very detail review as always,nice watch,i realy like russian watches they look chip but in a diferent way that is attractive to weirdos like us.Cheers.
I'm afraid that you are historically incorrect. Neither of the watches in the video were space watches. The original Omega Speedmaster "Moonwatch" was powered by a Lemania 2310, manual wind, column wheel movement. Externally the current Moonwatch looks pretty similar, but apart from some limited edition releases, the movement is completely different. Secondly, it was in 1959 that The Moscow Watch Factory acquired the blueprints and tooling from Venus to make their Spacewatch, calibre 150/152, again a manual wind, column wheel chronograph. This was the original chronograph used by cosmonauts, and it bore no resemblance to the watch in your video, sorry!
There is an actual photo in the video of this watch used in space. Sturmanskie 31659 WAS used in space and aviation, it wasn't the FIRST but it was there, the Omega was there as NOT a space watch,
Thank you for the response, but I'm afraid you didn't carefully read my comments. I accept that the first watch in space, worn by Juri Gagarin in 1961, was a Moscow Watch Factory "Sturmanskie" but this watch was NOT a chronograph, and it WASN'T a purpose made space watch either. The first purpose made Russian chronograph/Space watch, was the "Strela" based on the Venus 150/52 column wheel chronograph, acquired by the Soviet Union in 1959. The watch in your video is NEITHER of those watches referred to. You are correct, Sturmanskie chronographs have been used in space, so have chronographs by Seiko, Rolex, Zenith, and quite a few others. The main reason why most of the Sturmanskie Chronographs are pictured in space, they were given, as a, pre flight complimentary gift, to everyone that flew on the Mir Space Station, and later, The International Space Station. So, in a nutshell, just because someone wears a watch in space it doesn't mean it's a dedicated, certified space watch.
OMG. One either know smth or doesn't know anything. Somehow u managed to be both.)) cal. 31659 is a 18344506049845098450 billion percent space watch. Because it is a cal.3133 with an added stop second function. 3133 started being ussued in 1976 in the form of "Ocean" for navy officers. And for the pilots in 1979 in the form of "Sturmanskie" (same mvmnt and case as the Ocean, but slightly different dial) 31659 is just the last version of Strmnsk: no moving inner bezel - no button on the left side. added stop sec + changed form of the glass. All the Soviet crew commanders were officers. Hence they all wore Ocean\Strmnsk in flight (as well as Vostok's Amphybia, Slava and quartz Electronica later on). cal. 3133 has been in space since 1976 till 2004. Including the longest space flight in the history of mankind (1,5 years from 94 to 96). Omega sighned the contract with the Russians only in 1988. It was not there all the time as people tend to think. The Russians have been using homemade watches since 1962 (Gagarin with Strmnsk) and untill 2004 (Shargin with 40th jubilee Strmnsk). The Russians have never made Certified Space Watch as all the officers' timepieces were strictly Government issued (and checked) and they all could be used and were used in space. And they were issued FOR FREE (as a part of officer's equipment\gear) and never sold to the public. INCLUDING the Strela. All that "officially official certified certificate" is a western bs to raise money from the idiots who know nothing. Russia srarted playing that game after Perestroyka. But Sturmanskie were still flying to space after the appearence of Omega (1988) and Fortis (1997). 3133\31659 Ocean\Sturmanskie have been present in space for 28 years (which is more than Fortis). Plus Strmnsk orbited the planet longer than Fortis and Omega (while Fortis beating Omega in that case since Soviet spaceflights in total were much longer than American's. As well as typical ISS flight is much longer nowadays than your typical American mission before the ISS). Sturmanskie is not "a complimentary pre-flight gift' (c) you. It is a tool specially issued to and used by the pilot before he gets elected to start cosmonaut's training. During the cosmonauts trainig. And during the space mission. And if he flies several times, he goes through the same routine again and again. Wearing Sturmanskie. Back to Strela. It was issued strictly to the Air Force officers as well. 1970's Sturmanskie were just a better version of the AF watch: more precise, more reliable, less nedded service and were shockproof. It was modified quite a lot compared to the original Swiss mechanism that was officially aquired in 1974. ps the first watch in space was produced not by Moscow Watch Plant. But by the "First Moscow Wach Plant". Which changed the name to Poljot (Flight in Russian) after The First Flight to Space. But it was actually the second plant to emerge, since there was the real first watch one - Electromechanical. When they decided to rename themselves as a watch plant, the "First" has already been taken, so they ended up being called the "Second Moscow Watch Plant". And their brand name was "Slava". I mentioned it before in the list of the Soviet watch in space. They were primeraly used by the non-military Flight Engineers (second crew member). As the Flight Commanders were military officers (wearing Sturmanskie).
I thought the First Space Tourist was Dennis Tito? Speedmaster, part of the Biggest Conspiracy Ever. Sturmanskie, with its cushion case is doin it for Me, imagine a Mig 31 Pilot at Mach 3 checking the time! Brilliant Show, Unreal Stuff WG. If thats Your Chrono,,,, Score!
I have a Moonwatch 1861 and the 3133 version of this watch with the rotating bezel and second crown. Side by side there is no comparison. The Russian is a nice $150 watch, but you know you're not holding a high end watch.
There's no comparison at all between these 2, Omega was made for public usage while Sturmanskie was studied specifically for high military/space precision usage. That's why Sturmanskie will always be better, other than carrying an enormous heritage on its back!
I got one today, exact same model. I haven’t had it authenticated, but I got it from my dear neighbor who was in the US Navy. He told me that just after the Iron Curtain fell in the 90’s, he traded a Seiko to a Russian Air Commander for this Sturmanskie 31659. This is why I don’t really feel the need to have it authenticated. Not only is it a pleasure to own this piece but for it to carry the story and history it has makes me immensely grateful. Wonderful video, and so very interesting to find out about this watch I now have!
Još jedan zaista odličan video! Pravo uživanje gledati i slušati! Nisam sve ovo znao. Hvala Vam puno!
Hvala kolega 😊
I have the Poljot version with the 3133 movement on which I’ve put a transparent back to show off the movement. I would prefer to have one of these.
I never had someone who acknowledge my hobby of watches in my life as u did in that 10 seconds . It is a mental condition I am damn proud of thank you . *i do own a sturmanskie
Haha glad I'm not alone 😄
From the thumbnail I mistaken the video with ones from watchfinder
Yup, same here.
But this one lacks everything that watchfinder has.
@@dxxa95 Of course, because this is not Watchfinder but still very nice channel :-)
Thanks for highlighting this watch, very cool
Thanks 😊
Ive seen all your episodes but this one is masterpiece
Hvala na lijepim riječima 😁👍
Beautiful! Thank you for sharing!
AWESOME Vlog & Content...Now I am inspired to go on a treasure hunt for one of these to add to my ever growing collection of 23 years. THANK YOU for bringing us such a wonderful video to watch, I knew the answers to the question but the depth of knowledge you provided was amazing.
Thanks and I'm glad you enjoyed
I really enjoyed this video, you did an awesome job. I got my Sturmanskie Sputnik a week ago and now can't wait to get this piece instead of that Bulova I used to like.
1:06 In fact... the Omega Speedmaster Automatic Triple Date was actually worn in space by Michael Gernhardt on STS-94 shuttle Columbia in July 1997...
IMHO the Poljot 3133 & 31659 Shturmanskie chronographs are more important than the overhyped Omega Speedmaster... Checkout MoonwatchUniverse !
I really like both of my Sturmanski. Very expensive to service though. Price has gone up since Poljot i believe closed.
Beautiful chronograph. Need to add to my collection now. Profound video!
Thanks 😊
Great video about two underrated watches. Due to a video of craft and tailored and its comments I recently found out that the mk40 was in space as well!
Подскажите пожалуйста,где купить"Штурманские"?
Excellent and complete, yet brief review. I also appreciate the tips on identifying original from fakes as I am looking out for this model on eBay. I wanted an affordable, smaller sized chrono and this was one of the suggestions on a forum I am subscribed to. I would be interested in knowing where I can learn the other steps you mentioned to further identify an original.
Watch forums are the best resource when it comes to this information
@@WatchGeek Thanks. I subscribed to watchuseek for that reason.
@@nikhilsrl great decision, they have a lot of really knowledgeable members. I have been a member there for 10 years, maybe even more
@@WatchGeek Thanks man. I will let you know when I find my Shturmanskie.
Really great looking chronograph. May have to snag one of these. Nice vid.
Thanks 😊
beautiful watch you got I love the strap. Where did you buy it?
Sturmanskie is like a premium version of a Vostok. Awesome review.
Thanks 😊
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Russian space watches are underrated and underappreciated AF. thanks for the video...
hell, even that one swiss watch that went to space more than any omega and was (and still is?) extensively used by Roscosmos (yes, i'm talking about Fortis) is overlooked in favour of the never-went-to-the-moon "moonwatch" (talkin' about the (1)861s here, i'm no moon landing conspiracy nut :D)
modern day " watch journalism " doesn't even know about Russian spaceflown Poljot 3133 and Shturmanskie 31659 chronographs !
“Mental condition”.......yes,I have that when it comes to watches😂⌚️
😂😂👍👍
Does it have to have the words sturmanskie printed on the back case to be considered authentic ?
just bought a vostok komandirskie, now i want one of these...
Did u get it sir?
Out of my 90+ watch collection (more than 30 Russian Vostok's etc.) this is the one i want. Well, with 3133 Okean. Bought my Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Professional sapphire in May 2023, got bored with it in September -23 and sold it..i think i need to go this Shturmanskie way now..quite a lot cheaper (and of course not Omega quality), but some more character.
The sturmankie looks cool. It can easily fit into my vintage seiko chronograph collection.
i own a 3107 Strela and love it. Nice review
Thanks 😊
WG, you mention that to be sure it's not a Frankenewatch the logos must have the correct orientation for the serial number ...where can I reference that information?
After learning the history of this watch, i really want it now.
Where can i buy it from.
Best bet, Russian online sites, you get best prices, eBay is expensive sometimes but safer
@@WatchGeek thank u.
Top quality video!
Thanks for the kind words 😊
Nice. I like that vintage look of the Russian watch.
Great lesson for me. Thanks buddy 😁
Thanks for watching 😁👍
Incredible video
Thanks 😊
Tks for video!
Is the triple Datev100m water resistant) iev"swimming proof"?
Sorry, nope, it's 50m water resistant
It is really beautiful. How much is the value of this?
From $500 upwards, depending on the price
@@WatchGeek Thanks! You know Im from Hungary and Im living about 17 km from an ex russian military airbase. It was the "change" at 1989 as the russian army leave Hungary. At that time there was everything for sale and for buy from the russian soldiers. I own a watch like this since exactly 30 years ago, (maybe 31) it is still brandnew, I never wear it, the metal strap is still stiff, and sharp at the sidees, on the strap with the original paper tag, and all in an original paper box. Nice to see something about it. Thanks so much for your response. Best regards from Hungary!
No paragon between this two watches, would be like to compare a mercedes with a skoda; btw i like the great history of poljot, and would like to add a sturmanskie, in good working condition, at my little and poor collection!
Neither of these are the real space watch. Omega speedmaster is closer to being one, though. The mechanism 3133 in this sample of Sturmanskie was firstly launched in 1975, long after Gagarin's death. The "true" space watch, which Gagarin wore during his flight was "1MЧЗ" with 15 jewels and the hacking device.
When it comes to Gagarin you are right, but the this variant of Sturmanskie IS a space watch as it was worn by cosmonauts and the Japanese reporter to space and ti Mir space station.
Gagarins watch was the first
Where can I finde one?
Great video and value!
Top quality video! Thank you
Is it theoretically safe to go swimming while wearing this? Or do the chrono pushers invalidate the work of the seal on the rear?
Depends on the water resistance rating, if the watch is 100m water resistant like Zenith El Primero, you are ok, but you are not allowed to push the buttons under water
@@WatchGeek I see the figure of 3 atmospheres referenced for the 3133 Sturmanskie, but I'm not sure where that's coming from. Nowhere is water resistance listed on the case, and I've never seen a users manual. There is certainly a lot of mystery and charm around this watch.
I have a commemorative 1945 1985, "forty years of peace" Vostok Komandurskie with a hacking 2234 zakaz movement.
Sold to military personnel
I would love a Sturmanskie.
Speedmaster " Automatic " was never used in spaceflight and the Sthurmanskie 31659 was only used a few times in the late 1980s ( Soyuz TM-2 and Soyuz TM-4 and Soyuz TM-11 )
#MoonwatchUniverse
hi!
I want to buy the Glycine combat sub 42 GL0087 as my next watch. What are your thoughts or advise on that ?
It's not so popular (not that it matters to me) and idk why. Could be the fact that invicta owns glycine these days or something
If you can get a good price and like the watch, go for it. Some of their models really look interesting to me
@@WatchGeek thanks!
@@WatchGeek i found a Dutch store through chrono24 and they made me an offer of 475 euros delivered to my door (romania)
I'm not familiar with this chrono24 but looks like a legit site. I think they manage the transaction and everything.
I guess i'll have to do some more research about it.
I think the info is not entirely accurate. Hacking function was added in 1986 and the rotating bezel was removed at the same time. I have a shturmanskie watch that I got from the guy who's uncle was a navigator of Tu-124 in the soviet airforce, the plane number is engraved on the back of it which is entirely flat and has no stampings, it has rotating bezel, no hacking function and stainless case. I saw a photo of his uncle wearing the watch with the actual plane in the background. I heard that military issue watches had a flat back case as opposed to the ones made for sale that had stamped case back.
Great video! I'd definitely rather have the Sturmanskie than the Omega :)
welcome back older brother
Thanks for watching 😁
@@WatchGeek peace ✌
I much prefer the look of the Russian space watch to the Omega. To me, the light grey dial and colored hands are much easier to read.
Yup, it is a very legible watch
fascinating history
Thank you , it was an easy question to answer......correctly
Haha 😄👍👍👍
That is actually very nice.
Thanks
Thank you for this video. I avoided a fake.
But the real diagnosed watch fanatics will in fact know that this is not the Sturmanskie that Gagarin wore in space for the first time. That model was not a chronograph and so the fact that this model beat Omega into space is actually fake. Yes, Sturmanskie did beat Omega as a company in this race, but not this model. And also, Omega was the first watch on the Moon. So...
Pics of the actual model: forums.watchuseek.com/f10/15-jewel-sturmanskie-gagarin-q3-49-a-4009634-4.html
If you Listen to the video carefully you will see I said that, that youll be getting a watch from a BRAND that once beat Omega in the race to space. I even explain that Gagarins watch was a manual wind 17 jewel movement and that this was introduced I the 80's
Yes, now I remember when you said it, but if I knew and it wasn't clear for me, than for newbies it might be even worse. You should take this as constructive feedback.
@@theidle86 thanks I will 😊👍
For the precision, the watch worn by Gagarin was probably a Sturmanskie, but surely not a chronograph, it was a 2609 like this ( i.pinimg.com/originals/8f/ea/f4/8feaf4d3e060b372aedf2d41ad9727f2.jpg ) while the first watch worn in a space-walk, by Alexey Leonov in 1965, was a white-dial Poljot Strela ( zeitquest.com/public/img/watches/strela/strela-sekonda-chronograph-montage-1.jpg ).
Shepard didn't have a wirstwatch, but a TAG Heurer stopwatch, so the first wirstwatch in space for the Americans was Glenn's Breitling Navitimer. Later the Omega Speedmaster became mandatory for NASA's space-walks (other watches could be used abroad), but notoriously, Dave Scott of Apollo 15 mission, worn a Bulova prototype on the Moon.
The first watch to go into orbit was a Pobeda 34-K. Soviet aerospace medical researcher Dr. Abraham Genin strapped his watch onto one of the dogs aboard Sputnik 4, about a month before Yuri Gagarin's mission.
Prefer the original Russian over the unoriginal Omega. (Google the design). The Russian is far more interesting to look at on top of its space credentials where the Omega only has that one thing going for it. I don't see the appeal. I think it's only popular at this point because enough people fell for the fact that a few built it up.
...and because of the prevalence of Franken watches, I'd rather save my money and get an Omega through an AD. Nice review.
Why is the video names Omega...Vs the Strumanskie you didn't actually compared them
Dial lume markers look like drops of booger, otherwise a good looking military chrono
great video. I come late, sorry for that.
Very detail review as always,nice watch,i realy like russian watches they look chip but in a diferent way that is attractive to weirdos like us.Cheers.
Thanks 😊
I've told Ruski, Ruski was in space first. I guess I'm a watch geek.
True my friend 😊
Oh man... so I have a mental condition...
I'm afraid that you are historically incorrect. Neither of the watches in the video were space watches. The original Omega Speedmaster "Moonwatch" was powered by a Lemania 2310, manual wind, column wheel movement. Externally the current Moonwatch looks pretty similar, but apart from some limited edition releases, the movement is completely different. Secondly, it was in 1959 that The Moscow Watch Factory acquired the blueprints and tooling from Venus to make their Spacewatch, calibre 150/152, again a manual wind, column wheel chronograph. This was the original chronograph used by cosmonauts, and it bore no resemblance to the watch in your video, sorry!
There is an actual photo in the video of this watch used in space.
Sturmanskie 31659 WAS used in space and aviation, it wasn't the FIRST but it was there, the Omega was there as NOT a space watch,
Thank you for the response, but I'm afraid you didn't carefully read my comments. I accept that the first watch in space, worn by Juri Gagarin in 1961, was a Moscow Watch Factory "Sturmanskie" but this watch was NOT a chronograph, and it WASN'T a purpose made space watch either. The first purpose made Russian chronograph/Space watch, was the "Strela" based on the Venus 150/52 column wheel chronograph, acquired by the Soviet Union in 1959. The watch in your video is NEITHER of those watches referred to. You are correct, Sturmanskie chronographs have been used in space, so have chronographs by Seiko, Rolex, Zenith, and quite a few others. The main reason why most of the Sturmanskie Chronographs are pictured in space, they were given, as a, pre flight complimentary gift, to everyone that flew on the Mir Space Station, and later, The International Space Station. So, in a nutshell, just because someone wears a watch in space it doesn't mean it's a dedicated, certified space watch.
And by the way, whether it's a space watch or not, it's still great!..👍
OMG. One either know smth or doesn't know anything. Somehow u managed to be both.))
cal. 31659 is a 18344506049845098450 billion percent space watch. Because it is a cal.3133 with an added stop second function.
3133 started being ussued in 1976 in the form of "Ocean" for navy officers.
And for the pilots in 1979 in the form of "Sturmanskie" (same mvmnt and case as the Ocean, but slightly different dial)
31659 is just the last version of Strmnsk: no moving inner bezel - no button on the left side. added stop sec + changed form of the glass.
All the Soviet crew commanders were officers. Hence they all wore Ocean\Strmnsk in flight (as well as Vostok's Amphybia, Slava and quartz Electronica later on).
cal. 3133 has been in space since 1976 till 2004. Including the longest space flight in the history of mankind (1,5 years from 94 to 96).
Omega sighned the contract with the Russians only in 1988. It was not there all the time as people tend to think.
The Russians have been using homemade watches since 1962 (Gagarin with Strmnsk) and untill 2004 (Shargin with 40th jubilee Strmnsk).
The Russians have never made Certified Space Watch as all the officers' timepieces were strictly Government issued (and checked) and they all could be used and were used in space. And they were issued FOR FREE (as a part of officer's equipment\gear) and never sold to the public. INCLUDING the Strela.
All that "officially official certified certificate" is a western bs to raise money from the idiots who know nothing.
Russia srarted playing that game after Perestroyka. But Sturmanskie were still flying to space after the appearence of Omega (1988) and Fortis (1997).
3133\31659 Ocean\Sturmanskie have been present in space for 28 years (which is more than Fortis). Plus Strmnsk orbited the planet longer than Fortis and Omega (while Fortis beating Omega in that case since Soviet spaceflights in total were much longer than American's. As well as typical ISS flight is much longer nowadays than your typical American mission before the ISS).
Sturmanskie is not "a complimentary pre-flight gift' (c) you. It is a tool specially issued to and used by the pilot before he gets elected to start cosmonaut's training. During the cosmonauts trainig. And during the space mission. And if he flies several times, he goes through the same routine again and again. Wearing Sturmanskie.
Back to Strela. It was issued strictly to the Air Force officers as well. 1970's Sturmanskie were just a better version of the AF watch: more precise, more reliable, less nedded service and were shockproof. It was modified quite a lot compared to the original Swiss mechanism that was officially aquired in 1974.
ps the first watch in space was produced not by Moscow Watch Plant. But by the "First Moscow Wach Plant". Which changed the name to Poljot (Flight in Russian) after The First Flight to Space.
But it was actually the second plant to emerge, since there was the real first watch one - Electromechanical. When they decided to rename themselves as a watch plant, the "First" has already been taken, so they ended up being called the "Second Moscow Watch Plant". And their brand name was "Slava". I mentioned it before in the list of the Soviet watch in space. They were primeraly used by the non-military Flight Engineers (second crew member). As the Flight Commanders were military officers (wearing Sturmanskie).
I thought the First Space Tourist was Dennis Tito?
Speedmaster, part of the Biggest Conspiracy Ever.
Sturmanskie, with its cushion case is doin it for Me, imagine a Mig 31 Pilot at Mach 3 checking the time!
Brilliant Show, Unreal Stuff WG. If thats Your Chrono,,,, Score!
Thanks and yup, both mine
NOVAK DJOKOVIC is the champion of the WO 2019!!!
Seiko beats boring & looser rolex as ALWAYS!!!
I have a Moonwatch 1861 and the 3133 version of this watch with the rotating bezel and second crown. Side by side there is no comparison. The Russian is a nice $150 watch, but you know you're not holding a high end watch.
There's no comparison at all between these 2, Omega was made for public usage while Sturmanskie was studied specifically for high military/space precision usage. That's why Sturmanskie will always be better, other than carrying an enormous heritage on its back!