Mastering The Single Stroke with Traditional Grip

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  • TIMESTAMPED for future viewing. If you've been having trouble developing your single stroke roll with the traditional grip, this full and detailed lesson is specifically for you. Grab your sticks and a pad and check it out.
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    0:26 Opening Solo
    3:30 Hand & Stick Position
    4:26 The Cradle
    5:35 THE MOVE (Mechanics)
    8:18 The Palm (Volume & Dynamics)
    10:25 Target Practice: Developing Your Singles
    11:27 Preventing Stick Sliding w/ The Button
    12:48 Subdividing With The Cradle
    14:55 The Amazing Result (Re-introducing the Fingers)
    20:56 Wrap Up
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  • @mileslinus
    @mileslinus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Damn who knew a groove with just singles on the snare, a little kick and left foot hi hat could be so tasty? Now I'm gonna have to learn traditional grip...

  • @johnnyofast5924
    @johnnyofast5924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had drum lessons when I was a little kid and my teacher wanted me to play matched grip as the new thing (yeah Im old). But i kept switching back to traditional. At one point he told me if I don't stop switching back he's just gonna have me play traditional and i never looked back. I struggle to play match grip but I still want to have that too and keep working on it. Both is best. Thank you, another great lesson.

  • @DavidBrown-uc7cf
    @DavidBrown-uc7cf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Thanks Rob. I liked the groove you were playing in the beginning and
    thought I would try it. Seemed easy. This was like learning syncopation
    for the feet. I failed pretty miserably with the kick drum for about 1/2 hour until I was
    able to count it out. I am 59 and just getting back into drumming. This
    will be the basis of many exercises for me. Thanks for doing what you
    are doing. I dig your style and your gear too!

    • @kwizo1
      @kwizo1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right there with you...lol

  • @Andrew3154
    @Andrew3154 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I learned traditional 55 years ago. There is so much you can do with it. Great lesson.

  • @criticaljunkie
    @criticaljunkie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Been working on traditional grip for about 3 or 4 years now. This is hands down the best explanation and lesson I've seen. Huge thanks for all you do. You're a gifted teacher!

  • @loucontino4804
    @loucontino4804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very insightful. I cannot stress enough to listen to Rob explain the fulcrum & cradle excercises before you apply the fingers. Well done mechanics explanation.

  • @seaneliel
    @seaneliel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Finally, the long awaited video came! And it did not disappoint! 👍

  • @johnmetcalfe2482
    @johnmetcalfe2482 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A fine rerun of my first formal drumming lesson in 1963...thanks Rob.

  • @jamesbarnes1892
    @jamesbarnes1892 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! I just bought a kit this week and have never played before. So far I've seen how to tune a snare, set up my hi hats, and learned about the cradle! Thank you! Awesome videos and tutorials!

  • @michaelcromer1564
    @michaelcromer1564 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    20 years of searching and I’ve found my drum guru.

  • @vincentbuonora8477
    @vincentbuonora8477 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ...really great control for speed at the Low Level... Just watching you over and over is a lesson in itself. Great job.

  • @theaussiewaffle4276
    @theaussiewaffle4276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this is incredible, i have been playing matched for the past 5 years and still don't have incredible speed or accuracy. getting back to basics with things like this really helps with my internal metronome and accuracy. i dont really have a strong opinion of whether match or trad is better, but i will say that trad definitely does look cooler ;)

  • @nissankapush
    @nissankapush 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very important lesson

  • @NeonMeateDream
    @NeonMeateDream 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is helping me out so much, man. Thank you!!

  • @warrenhenderson2717
    @warrenhenderson2717 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Sir for the great lessons, and sharing your talents 🎼🎵🥁

  • @dylanscott1288
    @dylanscott1288 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well done video, taught in a way that really helped me to understand

  • @jeffreyalexander7504
    @jeffreyalexander7504 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Rob! I'm 60 years old and I finally figured out how much technique I need to play what I hear. I have decided to start digging in. This lesson helps a bunch. Although traditional left is more limited, the sound from that grip is a deep part of the catalog of traditional drumming. With this grip it's hard to get the same velocity and it always seems to sound a bit softer, but there's a very special sound that you can't get from match grip. I'm going to take my fingers off the stick for a while and just work on the cradle. Seems simple enough.

  • @arthurmateman3116
    @arthurmateman3116 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video really improved my drumming. You truly never miss Rob!

  • @patrickperkins5256
    @patrickperkins5256 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent instructions

  • @polarityrecords
    @polarityrecords 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation, great advice.

  • @tmaddrummer
    @tmaddrummer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brother, your timing is impeccable, on the kit and especially with my immediate need for this! Thank you and Merry CHRISTmas! I'll be sporting some new T's too! Blessings!!!

  • @isaacindahouse111
    @isaacindahouse111 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful. Thank you!

  • @cleverestx
    @cleverestx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic!

  • @danieljbatista5691
    @danieljbatista5691 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @craigball2906
    @craigball2906 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant tutor, thanks Rob. Craig from Scotland

  • @ronaldnorth5005
    @ronaldnorth5005 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an excellent tutorial. SMOOFAH!

  • @user-ui5ek6il4x
    @user-ui5ek6il4x 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love from Korea! Thank you bro!

    • @RobBeatdownBrown
      @RobBeatdownBrown  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wuddup Korea 🙂👊🏽 Shout out from Canada 🇨🇦

  • @ScottFree4all
    @ScottFree4all 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “...but when it’s time to start laying’ bricks-you’re gonna catch me right back here!” Oh yeah!

  • @jaybird3837
    @jaybird3837 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is extremely informative, you’ve definitely earned a sub

  • @thundermolloy
    @thundermolloy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sick video bro

  • @juanalbiify
    @juanalbiify 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good video. Another way to practice single stroke is playing Bolero de Ravel along any video with dynamics, from ppp to ff, playing the rythm of the snare with both hands simultaneously or alternating them. Is a very good exercise to improve your technique. After finishing, you wll realize to have better precision and control of the sticks.

  • @cynthiakeyes7197
    @cynthiakeyes7197 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dustin said it best who knew let's get to work yes baby 24/7🥁

  • @areaboy777
    @areaboy777 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you.✌

  • @speedoflite1
    @speedoflite1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    love it

  • @dudeinskibro1
    @dudeinskibro1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I started practicing these tips just a couple weeks ago and am seeing amazing results!
    Been playing 20 years w/ matched grip and wanted to learn traditional while stuck at home. As I'm sure everyone feels when learning traditional, it's felt REALLY daunting considering my current skill level with matched. Really thankful content like yours is accessible - least I can do is buy a t-shirt to say thanks!

    • @dudeinskibro1
      @dudeinskibro1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Annnnnnd ordered. Thanks again!

  • @cjklz
    @cjklz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So back to basics hu; Always man, always. A musician always go's back to basics.
    Great video. Just Playing is still the best way to show things. Let the music do the talking and explaining by itself.....You ar a ba ass modest master in your own way , becaus you always keep doing it man.

    • @dennisristow2102
      @dennisristow2102 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      So true. Been playing Keyboards for over 30 years, but just got into drums a couple years back. Always warm up on the keyboard with scales at slow tempos to a click. Gradually build up the speed to comfort, then before a gig, push up the tempo a little bit over comfort to loosen up the joints. Basic beginner technique will always treat you right and NEVER steer you wrong no matter the instrument. Learning traditional grip from Rob's videos really helps a lot. Always look forward to a lesson when his alerts pop up on my computer :-).

  • @redsoxtoni
    @redsoxtoni 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You're the best 😀 Love the vids ... I wanna learn this now, cuz why not!?

    • @RobBeatdownBrown
      @RobBeatdownBrown  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why not, indeed! I mean you're holding sticks anyways, right? 🙂

    • @redsoxtoni
      @redsoxtoni 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RobBeatdownBrown yeahhh!

  • @dennisfromflorida
    @dennisfromflorida 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, you solved my thumb pain !!!!! THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @creekcritter2112
    @creekcritter2112 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always seem to feel less in control when I try to incorporate the fingers. Now I realize that it might be because I'm relying too much on thumb action. Gonna work on this method now and try to fix things. Thanks!!!

  • @Boats4rent
    @Boats4rent 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Timely! ;-)

  • @luisdrums9353
    @luisdrums9353 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you Master Po....yours truly, Grasshopper

  • @michaeledwards510
    @michaeledwards510 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Rob - as always ! I do your classes every day as a traditional grip player myself ! Just wondering if you have any tips on improving paradiddle speed ? I am fine up to 140 bpm then I start to lose it ! Absolute pleasure to work with you !

  • @Princemidi
    @Princemidi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Rob I love you videos... Have you done any videos on Cross sticking... And if you could incorporate some reggae it would be awesome

  • @JulianFernandez
    @JulianFernandez 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike Clark dug this vid. How cool is that?!

  • @cynthiakeyes7197
    @cynthiakeyes7197 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh shirt came love it ordered a bright orange one love it

  • @ShawnJonesHellion
    @ShawnJonesHellion 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Everyone who has a smart phone has a metronome. For those who think they don't. Not that i used mine it was the first thing i sold due to it being replaced

  • @vincentbuonora8477
    @vincentbuonora8477 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Help....is the right hand the French position?

  • @francishlr
    @francishlr 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice shirts

  • @emperorofgaming8146
    @emperorofgaming8146 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What pad is this? Great lesson!!

  • @karimelzein9115
    @karimelzein9115 ปีที่แล้ว

    Video starts at 3:35

  • @julienpillonca6686
    @julienpillonca6686 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect lesson
    . BUT !
    A zoom.on.the fingers etc would habe been.really better

  • @zacharywilliams2
    @zacharywilliams2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I still want to see a video on right hand technique though.

  • @samuelkmotorka9394
    @samuelkmotorka9394 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Rob! Thanks for the video. I am reading Anatomy of Drumming book (highly recommend to read this book to any drummer) by John Lamb and he said that playing traditional grip is designed to play a slanted drum. Well I like to play traditional grip with snare drum set not in angle, but what John write in the book (it is so true and I can see also in your and my posture) is that if your snare is not in the angle we use to slouch and drop our left shoulder so we can play the drum at the appropriate angle, and it can create problem such as Thoraric outlet syndrome. Well I tried to set my snare little bit in an angle and it change a lot for me in. I am feeling much more comfortable and it is also more comfortable to hit a rim shot with more power.
    What is your opinion about having snare drum set up in angle? Did you ever tried to play snare drum with traditional grip in angle?
    Thanks
    Love your merchandise
    Sam

  • @davidbrown9395
    @davidbrown9395 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having trouble with stick sliding off w/o thumb to hold it. Could you show the open movement while looking into your palm. I learned a lot from watching your hands over the years. Right hand has become loose and accurate. Looking to loosen traditional left hand.

  • @FreedomFighter1759
    @FreedomFighter1759 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    damn this is difficult hahaha, having trouble remembering to rotate my wrist (match grip player here lol)

  • @JayB-lz6yd
    @JayB-lz6yd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the problem of trad grip is when you make tom fills/rolls. the tendancy to hit heads at a bad angle. which breaks them quickly. Virgil Donaty is the perfect example. i remember Tomas Lang was amazed at how fast Virgil was killing his drum heads. especially on floor toms. Virgil is a floor tom stabber haha! the rack toms were okayish. only 2 hours of bootcamp. crazy.

    • @magohipnosis
      @magohipnosis 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I no longer have problems with toms since I lay them a bit flat and hanging low!

    • @darkknightenberg
      @darkknightenberg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it really depends on the position of the toms.. the trad grip is better on the snare angled down for example..

  • @aikawatanabe7669
    @aikawatanabe7669 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So are you taking it back what you were saying in the video " How to develop a killer traditional grip", where you emphasize that the fulcrum should be under the last joint of the thumb? The concept here seems a little different. Thanks!

  • @stevenbroughton9264
    @stevenbroughton9264 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid Rob. That groove at the beginning what counts are the kick playing? Thx!

    • @stevenbroughton9264
      @stevenbroughton9264 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it 3, 4 and 1? Then u start putting one on the ah of 3 too

    • @DavidBrown-uc7cf
      @DavidBrown-uc7cf 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Put them where you want to. I am struggling with this for some reason. Doesn't seem natural to me. But it is 3 beats in a row. 1,2,3. 2,3,4. 3,4,1. @@stevenbroughton9264

  • @antsarumae4659
    @antsarumae4659 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It looks like the motion i'm doing is correct but i just can't manage to move my wrist as fast as you. Am i doing something wrong or do i just need to work out more?

  • @howardmanley3388
    @howardmanley3388 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You didn’t mention how to hold the right hand position? Thanks Howie...

  • @stefanaleksic4113
    @stefanaleksic4113 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahaha this video is sponsored by me :-)

  • @sadcold
    @sadcold 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    worldwide shipping of merch?

  • @44liisa44
    @44liisa44 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just tried out the traditional grip for the first time. Is it weird that my hand (the bone of my index finger) hurts near the cradle?

    • @RobBeatdownBrown
      @RobBeatdownBrown  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah. You’ll probably experience a few growing pains during the learning process. They’ll all correct themselves eventually

  • @MarkVanOvermeire
    @MarkVanOvermeire 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!