the great debate about was and were they say.... part 1 (NIJISANJI / Mysta Rias / Mika Melatika)

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  • @FinnOtaku
    @FinnOtaku 2 ปีที่แล้ว +636

    1:02 "So now we are _voting_ it on Twitter"
    1:09 "...or is this Brit _supposed to_ be correct"

    • @albanknees124
      @albanknees124  2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      thank you! i repeated it so many times but didnt managed to catch what she's saying 😭

    • @ae-qw5xi
      @ae-qw5xi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      actually 1:02 is "we are putting it on twitter" it makes more sense in this context because they didn't put a poll or anything

    • @FinnOtaku
      @FinnOtaku 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ae-qw5xi Now that you brought that up I can definitely hear it and it would make a bit more sense if there really wasn't any Twitter voting involved 🤔

    • @randomstuff6332
      @randomstuff6332 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      3:10 lol "they was stupid means that they were stupid before" XD

  • @ilhamkurniawan7599
    @ilhamkurniawan7599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1869

    A non native teaching a native. What a world we live in

    • @droopypizza128
      @droopypizza128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +176

      It’s mysta this is normal

    • @charlesethandrewabordo9821
      @charlesethandrewabordo9821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      I mean, this is quite typical of native English speakers. Having bad grammar and pronunciation, and wearing it like a badge of honor because "mUh cOuNtRy iNvEnTeD iT"

  • @leiii05
    @leiii05 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1524

    As an English major I didn't know whether to mald over Mysta or laugh at Mika's suffering

  • @sweedy6647
    @sweedy6647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +543

    Remember that time Luca said “I’m in Spain without the S” and Mysta replied “Span?” Everyone watching this is in span rn

  • @shirou5282
    @shirou5282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1047

    this feels like an older sister teaching her little brother lmao 😂😂

  • @tsukinotaniyn9853
    @tsukinotaniyn9853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +606

    I like how an Indonesian is teaching a Brit on English grammar

    • @dibus5055
      @dibus5055 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I have watched like 30 secounds, and mika went "and this person kept saying that you was right"
      "that you was"
      amazing in context of the title

    • @yuji5134
      @yuji5134 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dibus5055 she says in this conversation herself that speaking incorrectly is just slang
      Like saying "you stupid"
      It isnt proper english but you get it right?

  • @Addicted2Mario
    @Addicted2Mario 2 ปีที่แล้ว +676

    If you look up Multicultural London English, that dialect has the grammar structure that Mysta is describing. I think it’s part of his dialect rather than being “incorrect”.

    • @lawliet617
      @lawliet617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      yeah
      its the cockney accent i believe

    • @kkinosvt
      @kkinosvt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +139

      YES! Cockney is not an accent, it's a dialect. It has different 'rules' to standard English.

    • @prezentoappr1171
      @prezentoappr1171 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      biblaridion when he says t*t instead of teeth ah yes thou wert

    • @tweenytwinkies
      @tweenytwinkies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah well its caveman

  • @chinemeluuduchukwu7221
    @chinemeluuduchukwu7221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +754

    After listening to this, I think that Mika and Mysta should have their own podcast. This was so funny 🤣

    • @almond1612
      @almond1612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I RLLY WISH THEY HAD ONE

    • @shiinaaaaaaa
      @shiinaaaaaaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Still hopiuming for that mysmi podcast 🥲

    • @ethereal4608
      @ethereal4608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If the content of the podcast is going to be mostly similar to what this vid is about, I'm going to be concerned for Mika's mental health xD.

  • @misslucywucy
    @misslucywucy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +394

    I heard they even got bbc reporters(?) joined this space bruh

    • @albanknees124
      @albanknees124  2 ปีที่แล้ว +201

      yup apparently a bbc news presenter joined the space lmaoo

    • @rafaelfigfigueiredo2988
      @rafaelfigfigueiredo2988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      tf

    • @definitelynotsusan4260
      @definitelynotsusan4260 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Closet vtuber watcher???

    • @dinozero2
      @dinozero2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      @@definitelynotsusan4260 Nah I think they just checked in since this debate is trending on Twitter 😂

    • @definitelynotsusan4260
      @definitelynotsusan4260 2 ปีที่แล้ว +126

      @@dinozero2 was it trending in UK lmao. Imagine if that was your first introduction to vtuber

  • @sugoishii1971
    @sugoishii1971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +407

    Everytime mysta talks i lose 10 brain cells 💀💀

  • @soloregalia7221
    @soloregalia7221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    "you think this is some sort of expiration date, b*tch?"
    -mald Mika Melatika 2k22
    this made me wheeze so hard

  • @Phan.
    @Phan. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    *Mika and Mysta arguing*
    The BBC reporter in the space: WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!

  • @thomasrevill7723
    @thomasrevill7723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +379

    So, as I understand it, Mysta speaks with an MBE, or multicultural British English (originally multiculural London English), accent, which was formed by lots of different ethnic groups in the capital interacting with one another in English using the rules of their own languages and gradually forming one unified dialect - one of the common features is changing words between plural and singular, such as using "was" when you should technically use "were" (e.g. They were walking -> They was walking). This dialect (which shouldn't be confused with Cockney) has gradually spread further out into the country, mostly through popular culture like TV and music, and has now been adopted by quite a lot of young people in different regions, to the extent it may have "softened" some local accents and dialects. I'm not a linguist, by the way, so if I'm really wide of the mark with any of this, let me know.

    • @YuSooKey
      @YuSooKey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      We gotta stop calling improper use of language dialects.

    • @jilliancristien.sanjuan7244
      @jilliancristien.sanjuan7244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That explains things somehow

    • @tanwenwalters7689
      @tanwenwalters7689 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@YuSooKey You wanna take that up with the entire Linguistic community whose entire jobs are to figure out how language works?

    • @jackcarmel9367
      @jackcarmel9367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Finally someone points this out- I have a lot of British friends and I used to get into this argument w them a lot. It ultimately came down to me doing my research and finding out that British English is just grammatically taught different. So technically they both are correct but in their own way

    • @tanwenwalters7689
      @tanwenwalters7689 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@jackcarmel9367 It's not really down to how it's taught, you could have no formal education, or the same formal education, and dialects would still emerge, it's kinda just, how language works.

  • @himasekiwari155
    @himasekiwari155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +437

    Thank you for posting this comrade, my braincells sure shrinked alot XD

    • @catherleiah4723
      @catherleiah4723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      shrank

    • @catherleiah4723
      @catherleiah4723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      man english is hard

    • @dash0468
      @dash0468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shrank and shrinked starting to blend for me

  • @lawliet617
    @lawliet617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    dude is not only suffering from the bri'ish debuff
    he also suffering from english debuff

  • @-Raylight
    @-Raylight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    An Indonesian teaching Bri'ish english grammar lol
    As a non-native speaker, Mysta almost convinced me, but Mika saved me xD
    The man -were- was too stunned to speak 😂😂

    • @sugoi694
      @sugoi694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The men -was- were too stunned to speak

    • @sleepyheadzzz5241
      @sleepyheadzzz5241 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same. As a non-native i was struggling. I thought i was wrong for a moment XD

  • @toranosukekim9319
    @toranosukekim9319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    I feel Mika so much, I was literally getting a tick from listening to Mysta

  • @chebelme
    @chebelme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    6:24 OMG I love hearing Mysta's laugh. It seems like he's so amuse about their argument lmao.

  • @Shooplawn
    @Shooplawn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Mika doesnt even care anymore shes like "you are stupid" 😭😭😭

  • @cadence_2463
    @cadence_2463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    I feel the urge to say “w’ain’t” in Mika’s chat

  • @mr.gilyan867
    @mr.gilyan867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +200

    I shouldn't have watched this. Now I'm doubting my grammars 😔

    • @lunarwaffles5172
      @lunarwaffles5172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      You mean now you was is doubting your grammar

    • @lan_R
      @lan_R 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Uh.. So you wasere doubting your grammars? It's okay bro, me too

    • @ascaredmilipede7971
      @ascaredmilipede7971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Im watching this half an hour before an equivalent to toefl rn lmao

  • @nikel-
    @nikel- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    Fun fact : there is one particular type of sentence where using _were_ as in, "If I were to" is correct

    • @dazzlingapril
      @dazzlingapril 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And in question tag, "I'm correct, aren't i?"

  • @art_of_Miko101
    @art_of_Miko101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    As a filipino who understands english, I am either malding on this debate or I am laughing my ass off on Mika's suffering XD

  • @ultraninja5783
    @ultraninja5783 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Is turns into was
    are turns into were
    mysta, what a special child you are

  • @STAAAAAAAAAAAARRRS
    @STAAAAAAAAAAAARRRS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I just love how Mike’s Indonesian accent is getting stronger as she malds further! 🤣

  • @amhkas2106
    @amhkas2106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Good to know I wasn’t the only one malding hard to this lmao

  • @vicki8455
    @vicki8455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    1:04 mika says “we are putting it on twitter”

  • @nasywasalma1284
    @nasywasalma1284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I feel bad for Mysta, but this is just so funny dude wkwkwk
    When ur not a native and learned the grammar alot, and then u found out that the actual native not really using it, and that confused u bcs that just make no sense and pre''y much changed the meaning x'D

  • @P0TAT0.P0TAT0
    @P0TAT0.P0TAT0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Sometimes I wonder how mysta survives in the world

  • @irsyadakmal3777
    @irsyadakmal3777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Imagine having a student like this on your class, the class would be over before the teacher teaches anything
    I would want a classmate like that

  • @seroccoprime2774
    @seroccoprime2774 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    The Indonesian speaks better English than the literal Englishman lmfao

  • @alkautsarlucky
    @alkautsarlucky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Listening to mysta just makes me doubting my entire lesson of English during the elementary through high school.

  • @ririko2210
    @ririko2210 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    At this point, I think Mysta is just messing with Mika 😂

  • @haroldiansimagala8393
    @haroldiansimagala8393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I felt smarter after I've watched this

  • @jackiesh527
    @jackiesh527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The more conversation goes, the more Indonesian Mika rises lol

  • @ShadowXM9049
    @ShadowXM9049 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Reminder that mika is ID and mysta is EN

  • @ivana2609
    @ivana2609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I thought I was pretty fluent in English... but after watching this, I think I'm slowly losing it LMAOO

  • @thewssystem1471
    @thewssystem1471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    8:54
    “The word r”

    • @raccoonchild
      @raccoonchild 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That cracked me tf up. Even the clipper was having brainfarts at that point.

  • @LeeLikesFrenchFries
    @LeeLikesFrenchFries 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    found the reference! lol this is awesome

    • @Lianpe98
      @Lianpe98 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      x2 😆

  • @sathvikbijja
    @sathvikbijja 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    3:28 man i can't 🤣🤣🤣
    4:36

  • @_kurohana_
    @_kurohana_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You can tell Mika was losing it with how much she was rolling Rs in english

  • @OmegaGlops
    @OmegaGlops 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Isn't English a second language for Mika? Mysta is literally a native English speaker from England with a worse grasp of English grammar than Mika lmfaoooooo

  • @riialreirav8818
    @riialreirav8818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    my single braincell is expanding and shrinking at the same time

  • @akashiamizore193
    @akashiamizore193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As an American. I can definitely say Mika is right.

  • @poppy.d1672
    @poppy.d1672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The amount of times i burst out laughing watching this clip🤣🤣🤣

  • @coolbeans545
    @coolbeans545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Mysta why are you like this 😭😭

  • @puneetmaheshwari
    @puneetmaheshwari ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:20 the accent uffffff

  • @AzeharaCh
    @AzeharaCh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    "i wasn't planning on starting my clipper era with this but oh well here comes nothing"
    Welcome to the club. Also, can we revoke Mysta's EN card?

  • @anary8728
    @anary8728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NOT THE EXPIRATION DATE LMAAAAAAAAO

  • @rasbora7804
    @rasbora7804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I thought i'm dumb person but after seeing this, man

  • @gelordeswanson5421
    @gelordeswanson5421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Tnx for posting brother

  • @loovenini
    @loovenini 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm losing braincells everytime Mysta speaks😭😭

  • @yuukifenia1611
    @yuukifenia1611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Everyone is asleep and I keep bursting into laughter from this LOL

  • @k1ll3rcombo25
    @k1ll3rcombo25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    damn, we're hitting new levels of grammar.

  • @raimyonlinewarrior236
    @raimyonlinewarrior236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I can’t tell if Mysta is trolling or actually mean it.

    • @raccoonchild
      @raccoonchild 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Same and I hate not being able to read him. It's the first time he reminds me of Kanae.
      He's either a genius troll or hardcore stupid and the fact I can't tell is terrifying. 😂

    • @raimyonlinewarrior236
      @raimyonlinewarrior236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@raccoonchild it also makes him the most fun.

    • @raccoonchild
      @raccoonchild 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@raimyonlinewarrior236 He's very entertaining. Not my favorite liver (that would be Leos Vincent), but I love him and all of NijiEN against my initial expectations. Haven't really watched the new guys yet but I do like Fulgur and Alban.

  • @YourMajesty_1O1
    @YourMajesty_1O1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This entire thing was like a fever dream in twitter ma n

  • @jilliancristien.sanjuan7244
    @jilliancristien.sanjuan7244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Part 2 of this please 🥺 this just so funny and enlightening at some point

  • @HitogoroshiCh
    @HitogoroshiCh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    English is my 3rd language, but I intuitively can feel that Mika is rrrrrrrrrrright :D and damn, it is golden clip :D

  • @Fightikus
    @Fightikus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't finish watching this video because my braincells was wiped out.

  • @wisttwist
    @wisttwist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this hurts

  • @-__._._.__-
    @-__._._.__- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Let me make sure I'm not mistaken, he's a native speaker and she is not? This isn't an act on his part is it?

    • @chriskwakernaat2328
      @chriskwakernaat2328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      No act.

    • @tracesofthesunjingab
      @tracesofthesunjingab 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      This is not even mika said that she tends to be a nobrainer during stream and use if needed but when she meet mysta, she thought it's just an act but it is real ahdkfbfj

  • @darcyjoshua7201
    @darcyjoshua7201 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Holy shit thank you!

  • @jidereberaru7496
    @jidereberaru7496 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Couples argument

  • @Judge_of_Anubis05
    @Judge_of_Anubis05 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The crazy thing about all this is that non native English speakers often know more about the function of formal English whereas a native speaker would not know much of anything due to thier English being something of thier own dialect. That all said he's still wrong though 🤣🤣🤣

  • @im_okay1512
    @im_okay1512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:28 "expiration date" hahahahha

  • @Nyuwu-nee
    @Nyuwu-nee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am no english teacher but jesus, Mysta making me lose my remaining brain cells. pota Mysta ayoko na makinig 😂

  • @marionfrusa6265
    @marionfrusa6265 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I guess it's probably due to how slang terms are much more influential to people, maybe that's why.

  • @Cj_U
    @Cj_U ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If my mom legit catches me saying "you was" or "they was"...she will literally claw my heart out .

  • @ckmishn3664
    @ckmishn3664 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And now they're together at VShojo. 🤔

  • @Lianpe98
    @Lianpe98 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "no mika, it's pwopa" 😆

  • @videoloversful
    @videoloversful 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Further past tense ❤😂😂😂😂

  • @adair7489
    @adair7489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    is mika saying anything at 1:37 in jp or indo (?) or is that just incomprehensible noises

    • @albanknees124
      @albanknees124  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      i saw someone captioned that she said "mika melatika" that time, but im not really sure

    • @prince-qt9kz
      @prince-qt9kz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yea she said her name

    • @adair7489
      @adair7489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@albanknees124 oh i totally hear it now ! thank you

  • @rafaelfigfigueiredo2988
    @rafaelfigfigueiredo2988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    holy shit this is great and still part 1

  • @JaheMerah-r8l
    @JaheMerah-r8l 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    my brain melt again

  • @auliazakhrine1535
    @auliazakhrine1535 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Need part 2!!!

  • @sweetie_chu
    @sweetie_chu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think they’re both right if you think in terms of vernacular 🤓

  • @munishyadav5910
    @munishyadav5910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mista why? Whyyyyyy I'm malding so fuckin bad

  • @theermac6024
    @theermac6024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The thing about non-natives, is we pay more attention to what we say. Most non-natives had to learn the language *after* growing up, so we don't have the "confidence" as everyone has when speaking the one we grew up with.

  • @A-SUS
    @A-SUS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Okay, he is ready for TOEFL

  • @nekominorinya2569
    @nekominorinya2569 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My englishteacher would cry right now

  • @therealsoap
    @therealsoap 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is pure torture man I can't right now.

  • @worlds_end_girl
    @worlds_end_girl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:23 logic

  • @keiwa.amiaaa
    @keiwa.amiaaa ปีที่แล้ว +2

    MYSTA YOU'RE ENGLI-
    *cry*

  • @mydarlingsophia
    @mydarlingsophia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Mysta I love you sweetie BUT OMG PLS GO BACK TO SCHOOL AGAIN 😭😭😭

  • @DawnOrRei
    @DawnOrRei 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WHAT THE HELL?- 7, MINUTES IN AND NOW WE'RE CHANGING THE SUBJECT?!?!

  • @JustShy69
    @JustShy69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks man, it was hilarious to listen to and since I don't use twitter I wouldn't be able to see it

  • @senzothepotato
    @senzothepotato 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am new to Nijisanji and I will subscribe to find out when part 2 comes out!

  • @rixin7577
    @rixin7577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is deffo normal for us british people

  • @rasu2947
    @rasu2947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Mika roasting with Duolingo and werrrrrrrre 🤣

  • @Re5_2karman
    @Re5_2karman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward for part 2

  • @Premaaa
    @Premaaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Further past tense, dude I are dead

    • @ryenzo1436
      @ryenzo1436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      lmao i can tell, you is so dead, this were a good joke 🤣

  • @intisharnusalan1577
    @intisharnusalan1577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My yt recommended me this and I dunno if Im gonna laugh again at Mysta or get frustrated again with Mika😂😂
    My poor brain can't handle mysta srsly, he's another level of *stchewpidness*

  • @starrysky1191
    @starrysky1191 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    You know she's mad when Mika's Indonesian accent comes out 💀💀

  • @critz3924
    @critz3924 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My friends and I are watching this and they are malding because of mysta... I never seen them mald before lol

  • @jypii-q3y
    @jypii-q3y 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every time Mika is angry she shows her accent

  • @bsdtalia5318
    @bsdtalia5318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I always thought my English grammar was terrible, who would have known I won against a bri'ish lol

  • @koswoo
    @koswoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:53

  • @chrisye3580
    @chrisye3580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They are like sibling

  • @winsuper1
    @winsuper1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just for all the non-natives here, this isn't common in the UK and I have literally never heard anyone use was/were like this in person my entire life. It's probably from some specific regional/cultural dialect. Mysta sounds like an american putting on a british accent to me every time he does it.

  • @suhnnysideup
    @suhnnysideup 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There was an ice cream truck
    There were two ice-cream trucks