Teachers, How Do You Know A Child Is A Sociopath ?
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“Sympathy doesn’t erase responsibility” that’s a really good quote. Even if you understand their actions they should still be held accountable
I wish he'd apply that to false R accusations. It makes actual victims less likely to be believed and the victims of false R accusations lose more than just their livelihoods.
@@LegendStormcrowwhat? 😭
Bruh the video went right to an ad after he said that, and my phone screen rotated and I seen this.
This is VERY important especially to very young children who basically barley just learned to talk or even understand half the words you are saying like just your tone being a little lower can make them freak out and cry and stuff if they are already like “on thin ice” and you ask them literally anything (I was asking a child to clean up their center SO THAT THEY could use the center they have been BEGGING me to use for 30min I just had a list of kids and a timer for their turn and it wasn’t his turn, also he kept like yelling saying he wanted to play with the “water beads” which I had clearly told them if they did that their name would be at the end of the list I would let them know. But yeah so I told him to clean up his magnets, and he had already had blocks taken away because he was hitting people, but he broke down and ran to the corner and started stomping and yelling at me, and all because again I was asking him to clean up his station so he could do the one he wanted, he said he did want to but still had a massive attitude and told me he wasn’t cleaning up so well he didn’t get to use water beads but again he was whining because he literally assumed what I was gonna say and he lost the 2 centers he wanted to use BECAUSE he wouldn’t just listen, and I always give chances like tell them “take a breath friend and let’s talk I will be right here when you are ready buddy” and they yell and kick me cause I’m mean😂 love them but god damn are they just ridiculous)
@@reallyriley123 i still understand what you mean tho
Sometimes sufffering kids are misunderstood. I have this story where there was a weird kid who would always go into fights and issues. One day the weird kid just got into a fistfight with another kid, and the principal (an elderly woman) managed to de-escalate the situation in a way that I get to knew what a true educator is:
She started talking the weird kid out of beating the other kid, and he was very, unnaturally angry, and trying to look mean, and she said she would not allow him to go to the other kid and resume the fight. Then the kid then said "he would punch her/hurt her if she stood in the way", and everyone got scared because it was a big strong kid (despite being like 12 yo) and she was a very fragile elderly woman. She then approached the angry kid and got her face very close to the kids face and said, and said: "Then do it. Hurt me." The kid approached his fist near her face, and she didnt move, she kept her face near his fist (meanwhile everyone scared in the background of what could happen). The kid then started shaking and it was like all the anger left him, and she said "I know you can't. Thats because you are not evil. You are good. You are a good person." The kid then collapsed crying, and said how he had no friends, the bullying was bad and he had just lost his mother. She then comforted the kid and told him some warm words no one would say to him. This was like 10 years ago. The kid today is in college and is one of the chillest guys I know.
God bless this woman. She saw past the kid's mean exterior and gave him the help he needed. Truly a heartwarming end to what could of been a terrible story.
@@almogxchq5282 yeah i was about to say that
btw im the 169th like :)
That’s some wise old woman anime bullshit right there.
Wow... I wish there were more such people... More such educators and parents... But it's just a wish ofcourse...Anyways, thank you for sharing, I am going through a rough time (as a student and a human) and this comment gives me a lot of hope
I feel sorry for sociopathic children. A lot of them are excluded and seen as evil, when in truth, with the right support from a young age, child sociopaths can grow up to be more self-aware, high functioning adults instead of becoming even more severe.
Well I'm 20 and am a sociopath. Is there still hope for me?
Hopefully these kids get help.
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 if you actually are, yes- there is always help. As an adult though, you have to want to improve for anything to stick. So really, it’s a matter of whether you’re willing to do the hard work. Good luck
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 There is always hope as long as you don't give up
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 no you’re fucked. it’s in your best interest to act normal though or at least emulate emotion.
Tbh a lot of these kids sound like victims of abuse rather than sociopaths- especially the ones doing sexual things to other kids.
Many kids who are sexually abused don't understand that what they're going through isn't fine or normal, so they try to do it to people around them. Little kids don't naturally 'feel up' or hit on others, so if you see one acting like this try and talk to them to see what's going on at home rather than judging them.
They aren't mutually exclusive. In fact abuse is often what "awakens" or "aggravates" antisocial tendencies,
@@Dice-Z I'm aware of these- but if a child shows these behaviours and the adults just write it off as an evil kid, then the kid might not get the help they need and will actually develop antisocial personality disorder; however, if the adults try to get to the groot of it and give the kids the help they need then it can all be resolved and the kid can live a somewhat normal and healthy life.
Which is why we have to stop groomers / pedos / maps / aaps from targeting kids.
feeling out others is natural but not normal like hitting others. Kids start hitting others from baby age and only take it to older ages if not taught that it's a bad thing, but if parents fail to teach this to their kids correctly then they'll just end up thinking it's ok to do so...
As for the feeling up one, though abuse can be a cause there's also the matter of some kids being too curious so when they touch others on inappropriate body parts and the adults react by telling them they shouldn't, the start wanting to know why they shouldn't as such leading to them doing it to kids their age away from the eyes of adults out of curiosity.
Now I'm not saying that it can't stem from abuse, but there are times where abuse doesn't have anything to do with it rather the adult's cluelessness of how to handle certain situations correctly is what causes some things
i was abused at a very young age and was acting inappropriately towards other kids. strange to say but i was hyper sexual when i was a kid. it was like an obsession
That second kid watching and copying other kids is not sociopathic, using it to get close to girls is. Plenty of kids with autism, myself included, need to study people since we don't pick up on social and emotional queues naturally.
Yeah that was my thought process too. "Oh that's not that weir-oh yuck"
I'm autistic and I've learned a lot of things about what people don't want you to say or do from reading the advice columns. For instance, I've learned never to ask other women when they are going to have children.
just like the ball man
yeah this happens a lot to me. I have a friend that will copy every little detail about me because I had a lot of anime/gamer girl cousins and friends growing up. Problem is once they find out he's just a hip hop boyman who hasn't cleaned his house in 12 years it backfires. Everyone thinks I'm the suspicious one because I'm awkward even though I'm an innocent introvert and the psychopath with no empathy gets away with everything and is praised.
@@StrayB3ast harassment is kinda annoying depending on the circumstance, but if you slap someone then your going to have a karmic backfire. wont end well. Teach, be a good role model, asses situations and get bigbrain time to help put good influence out in a honest corrective mindset thats real and empowering to humanity. don't have to be woke, wake, wunk, woak or anything just remember were alive and like, you want see things better, well everyone who can get the message has to know it only begins with the people trying now that most the world is absolutely autopilot now.
Not a teacher but, I have a strong sense that my brother is a sociopath. When he was in preschool, I caught him beating a friendly grey cat with a metal bar, even though the cat was just standing at his feet and meowing at him. He's 13 now and he has put his hand on a female classmate inappropriately, tried to blame it on his friend but it was caught on camera. He has shown no remorse for his actions. He constantly threatens our siblings, pets, anything that slightly upsets him. And hes as two faced as a coin.
Lots of people society deems 'sociopaths' (which is not a psychological or psychiatric diagnosis) have what is called the the Dark Triad: Narcissism (egotism and lack of empathy), Psychopathy (anti-social actions like the ones you described), and Machiavellianism (manipulative and a lack of morality, like you described). These are all separate diagnoses, but often overlap, creating "monsters".
So, what does your brother think of himself? He seems to have the other two.
@@MutteringCondolences Machiavellianism and psychopathy aren't diagnoses, either. Op's brother might have antisocial personality disorder, or narcissistic personality disorder, or any other pd that comes with having low/no empathy, but anyone diagnosing you as *Machiavellian* isn't to be trusted.
@@MutteringCondolences I honestly don't know what he thinks about himself. Every time we talk, hes just talking about who pissed him off the most recently or talking down on other people. I know our mother is a narcissist but thats only after years of dealing with her narcissism. I often see her traits in him but it's hard to tell. I can tell he does have the Machiavellianism though. Thank you for your imput! I'm only slightly educated on psychology.
Almost certainly a case of Antisocial Personality Disorder. As said above, psychopathy isn't an officially recognized diagnosis, but what you describe fits the definition of a psychopath.
@@MutteringCondolences sociopathy and psychopathy are both true diagnosable psychological disorders that fall under anti-social personality disorder and they are basically the same except that sociopaths are more obvious and impulsive in violent actions/thoughts while psychopaths fake empathy and kindness while hiding violent thoughts
I've a special needs kiddo, and I accepted her diagnosis obv. I was told by the professionals "oh thank God we don't have to convince you, you wouldn't believe how many parents need to be convinced theres something that needs attention". I was thinking What kind of parents wouldn't listen to professionals when theres an obv problem. I have my answer.
As someone who was abused as a kid "Sympathy doesn't erase responsibility" is definitely my new favorite quote also "raise your kids to be better than you" is also a thing I've started saying.... and I don't even plan on having kids
I am in the same boat; I want kids, but my family was so dysfunctional and I am terrified I would just become another link in the chain of intergenerational trauma. Luckily, I am very gay and have no chance of getting anyone pregnant.
I think you should.
@@christopherbravo1813 just like what Justin said I don't wanna put my kids through that. I have been diagnosed with PTSD so I do have a lot of triggers. Like yesterday my girlfriend texted me and asked me to get her some grapes normally I would have no problem doing it but the fact that I had just sat down got me mad for no reason I threw my phone and broke my S23 Ultra S Pen. I've been going to therapy and I know there's a lot wrong with me so until I'm sure I can take care of a kid without hurting it then I will. Honestly it all just comes down to the fact that I'm scared to have kids anyway sorry for the ramble (by the way yes I got the grapes for her and no I wasn't an asshole to her I gave her the grapes gave her a kiss and went back downstairs and calmed myself down)
@@cardheon6091 and just like that you're already more qualified for fatherhood than many people with similar issues.
look, I'm not saying you absolutely must have kids right this instant. I just think that A. you'd make a better dad than you seem to believe
B. contrary to popular opinion, this world could use more people.
As someone diagnosed with ASPD (the medical diagnose term for sociopathy and psychopathy) We're not all violent criminals who hurt people and animals.
Glad to hear that.
I love animals and stories of socio or psychopaths killing them fills me with Hate for most “paths”. As long as you don’t hurt animals, we’re cool.
The first Neuroscientist to realise that psychopathy is actually detectable by MRI also was surprised to see the tell tale signs within his own brain. His friends, family and colleagues were not so surprised. But, because he had a loving, stable, healthy upbringing and home life, rather than manifesting as violence or anything, he's just kind of a d1ck.
@@Lily_of_the_Forest so if someone kills ppl but not animals, you're cool with that person?
Right on
So u do people with ASPD just feel very less intense of emotions? Can u please tell more?
@@ainternet_userisnteveryone524 Everything is just muted, that's not to say I don't feel things, because I do, I get angry, was worse in my youth, but now that i'm middle aged, ive gotten into a rhythm/schedule
as a Quebecois, your french is still better than the French they spoke in Teen Wolf lmao
As a french with terrible québecois accent, I would have pronunced it worse
@@lechatrelou6393 and we, fellow québécois, would have understood you
It’s just funny that I’ve been obsessed with teen wolf lately and everywhere I go someone mentions it
As a québécois it made me laugth a lot
Esti chu pas tu seul a écouter ca tarnak !?
I have 2 yo twins and we've already started teaching them not just to say sorry, but to ask their sibling is okay. After only a month, my kids are already visibly feeling bad after biting/hitting their twin and saying "are you okay" unprompted followed by a hug.
I'll obviously need to keep reinforcing this as they get older, but it's been great seeing them pick up empathy and internalize it so young.
Last year I failed my exams and had to repeat grade 8.
There's this guy in my class (1 year younger than me) who immediately took a liking in me. I didnt quite appreciate him constantly being glued to me by the hip, it was quite frankly annoying, but since he's the "special" kid i let that slide. Worst mistake I've made. I'm a decent person, if i say so myself, and was wondering why i couldnt get any friends at all. Turns out, this guy would threaten to hurt himself and others if they dared to get close to me. He wanted to be my only special friend.
I cut all possible ties with him now. He's still in my class, but i do my best to avoid him. I found some friends who are protecting me from him, but i'm still scared this guy is gonna do something to me. One day he twisted my friend's arm because she touched his phone
Tell an adult. Teachers , principal or parents
@@Sarah.2. have the parents come with you and tell the teachers.
Ok imma sound like a dweeb but textbook yandere, which in and of itself is some awful amalgamation of obsession and sociopath tendencies. Definitely tell someone who can get help, this could stem into something properly horrible later on
@@leviosadab7041 i was about to say that tho-
When I was in grade 8, that kid to me brought a knife to the school with the intent to kill me. From my perspective he just randomly disappeared. I found out when he returned the next year and I talked to him. Protect yourself. Things are way scarier than when I was grade 8.
Sociopath is being mistaken for Psychopath in most of these stories. Psychopaths mostly enjoy the pain they cause, love having power over others (animals or people), have no sense of guilt, and are very manipulative
Sociopaths lack empathy to varying degrees, have a hard time picking up facial and social cues and body language, difficulty understanding personal boundaries, but do feel guilt and are generally neutral to kind people in most cases. People tend to mix up the two disorders and use them interchangeably. There's the obvious negative stigma for those who suffer from psychopathy and this then also negatively effects those who suffer from sociopathy. This can make people hesitant to get diagnosed or seek treatment. There are some with psychopathy who do seek treatment in order to help them maintain healthy nontoxic relationships with others. Deep down some of them aren't bad people but their brains are wired in a way that mistakenly releases feel good chemicals when they do bad things. Of course this leads to very negative consequences that most people don't like so they seek treatment to better themselves.
Hearing some of these stories makes me think of my sister's stepson. The only specific story I can remember is that, at 7 or 8 years old, I'm pretty sure he pulled a knife on someone. There are plenty of other similar stories I've heard, but I can't think of them off the top of my head. He lives with his mother and his home life sucks from what I know - she smokes weed around him and her other children (and god knows how many she has now), she doesn't make sure he goes to school, and I wouldn't be surprised if things like the knife incident were a learned behaviour. I have no idea how she still has custody of her kids tbh, and how my sister and her boyfriend haven't yet been able to get full custody of him (from what I've heard, they've been trying, and he even sometimes calls my sister "Mum".)
I’d request the court to do an eval on the child. I’m not sure how all that works, but if they can prove his mental state is being negatively influenced by his mom, they’d have a much better shot at getting full custody. Good luck to them- I hope they can get custody and get him the help he deserves.
@@darx8419 I'm pretty sure he has a social worker assigned to him, and the police have been involved a few times regarding his truancy (and probably other things), so authorities are apparently aware of the situation and just not taking it further than what they're currently doing for whatever reason. And thank you, I hope they get custody and get him help too. He seems to do better when he stays at their house, they're clearly a better influence on him and give him better quality of life. They even took in his dog because his mother was going to just get rid of it and he was upset he wouldn't be able to see it anymore.
Same here, my sisters youngest stepson has some serious issues. They have had to hide their knives because he would take them and stab stuff. His older brother once woke up to his little brother standing over him with a knife. My sister has found knives hidden under his pillow and mattress. I used to babysit him for my sister and her fiancé while they worked. My daughter hamster was out in the living room while she was cleaning her room. I walked away long enough to go to the bathroom and then I hear the hamsters cage rattling around violently. I ran to the living room and he was just shaking the cage because the hamster wouldn't come to him. Poor hamster died 2 days later. 😢 The kids are now in the custody of their paternal Aunt because their dad tried to strangle my sister in front of them.
@@_S.D._ holy shit no one can feel safe having an sibling/kid/roomate like this its
really hard to feel while having someone in your house having an stabbing obsession
sometimes you think they try stab you in your sleep R.I.P Hamster
court systems are usually biased against men, so it isn't suprising that they're struggling tbh
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You can do everything right and your child can still be a sociopath! They are born that way. When I hear about a sociopath or psychopath murdering I wonder how their mothers feel? They say you never stop loving your child but I think I could stop loving him if he raped and murdered people.
@@Lily_of_the_Forest What you're thinking about is psychopathy. A sociopath is made through the environment they're in and it's how they learn to survive in it. A psychopath is born and even then, only around 1% of the general population can meet the clinical criteria for psychopathy.
And i'm pretty sure that most psychopaths and sociopaths aren't just murderers and rapists. They can actually be quite good in business because of how they think about things.
Even with this information, it isn't really a great idea to be calling kids between 2-7 years old "psychopaths", because kids around that age are selfish and can't understand things from other peoples POV's (Piaget's theory of Cognitive Development).
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We had a kid on Tuesday tell a teacher he was going to hurt her, before snapping a piece of metal he'd broken off of something earlier, and stabbing her in the leg, going straight through her jeans and breaking the skin requiring a hospital visit. He's 5/6 and is so violent he has to be kept permanently apart from the other students at all times.
Uhm... why isn't he being evaluated by professionals? He shouldn't be around others if he's just gonna end up stabbing them🤔
@@janedeauxxx He is being evaluated, but the waiting list is 5 years, so he's going to be just starting puberty by the time he's finally assessed
The little savage should be put to sleep.
Sounds like a lobotomy is in order
Why is he in regular school with ordinary kids? Sounds risky.
I'm on a medical leave from community college, but I'm convinced my former classmate (mid-20s) is a high-functioning, undiagnosed psycho-/sociopath. At first I thought he was on the spectrum, as I myself am so it's easy for me to spot others who also are, but as the semester went on, it started becoming more and more apparent he has some sadistic tendencies. He talks _soooo smoooooth_ and charming, and he exaggerates his mannerisms and facial expressions when he speaks, like he's trying to act like a human. He shows no emotion except when he's laughing at someone else (and even then, his laughter sounds forced). He doggedly flirted with another classmate who frequently talks about being happily married with 2 children to the point of it bordering on inappropriate (one time in lab when she was expressing her frustration that she couldn't get something where she wanted it to be, he told her with a sly smile, "Stop your b!tching!"). When I got frustrated in lab one day and started crying, he (we'd been working together) tried to comfort me with exaggerated, ultimately empty words. On the 1st day of school when he walked into the classroom, I got this awful feeling in my stomach, and the 1st thing that went thru my mind: "This guy is nothing but trouble." It worries me that he's married because my abu$ive ex wasn't much different from him. (Speaking of all these pregnant teachers getting threatened/assaulted by their students, this ex was 6'4" and got in trouble when he threatened to punch his heavily pregnant teacher.)
Sounds like a dark empath
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As a neurodivergent person, I promise you, we aren't all that bad.
As the video says, a lot of this would be *learned behaviour*, and, because I have read books MADE BY autistic ppl, that neurodivergent ppl like to 'copy' others. This isn't meant to be creepy, its actually a coping/defense mechanism to help us stay safe from people, because there are instances where a child was *!* k!lled *!*, because they were stimming/being themselves. This mechanism, called masking, appears a LOT is ASD kids, especially female orientated ones!
Also, just a thing, a lot of autistic ppl hate the words 'high-functioning', myself included (read 'Different not Less' by Chloe Hayden to know more!!)
[CRAP, I JUST RE-READ YOUR COMMENT, & NOTICED YOU SAYING YOU WERE ON THE SPECTRUM, I AM *SO SORRY*]
@@fandommemes8858 The things you said are extremely relatable for me. I'm biologically female and have asd, and masking is something I do subconsciously every time I go outside, to the point where I almost feel robotic at times. And every time I get home, all of a sudden I'm absolutely exhausted even if I hadn’t done much that day because I had been putting up a facade.
@@eggfishgoldfish641 That's burnout!! It's INCREDIBLY common in ASD ppl, and is usually caused by overwhelming situations.
I am NOT an expert, but have read a certain book over and over again, that some of the words are ingrained in my head :D.
Because of my support circle, I, yes do feel overwhelmed by school, I don't feel burned out as much
Just so you know, the book is called 'Different, Not Less' by Chloe Hayden, an autistic actress :D
It makes me sad because when I hear these stories it makes me remember, sociopaths are usually the way they are because of their environment, it makes me sad thinking about what happened to them that made them who they are today.
They are born that way. Can have kind parents and still be a sociopath or psychopath.
Most of the time it's genetic.
@@Lily_of_the_Forest psychopaths are genetic (born psychopathic), but sociopaths are created by the environment they grow up in and the situations they experience
@@Lily_of_the_Forest sociopaths are made psychopaths are born.
There is no personality profile where heredity is not involved, however much or little of it in any particular case. The inheritance can be genetic _&/or_ memetic since the kid can pick up his/her behavior from a relative or neighbor, on his way to becoming a monster.
When my brother was in a preschool daycare, there was another kid there who basically was Sid from Toy Story. He threatened a little girl with a knife one day, and that's all it took for my mom to say she'd take them to court if they didn't do something to protect the other children. An assistant teacher was hired for the sole purpose of staying near him at all times.
I was half-expecting a thread from one of my old teachers.
I was absolutely fatalistic in middle school, and said things that would get you expelled or arrested these days.
My heart goes out to Mr. Kahn and many others. Thank you, teachers, for tolerating me.
It wasn't until about 22 that something clicked and I finally saw a sliver of empathy growing.
Who I was back then makes me hopeful for the kids in this thread.
This is a great comment. Can I ask what changed for you at 22? Did an event or person trigger a realisation in you, or was it something that you recognised and achieved yourself through introspection?
When you started to change, how did you find the process and what motivated you to keep going if you found the process long or slow or annoying? Did you find it long/annoying or was it a mostly overnight thing?
Thanks
same, except i DID get expelled for saying some shit.
me and my friends were morbid as fuck, talked about death and suicide so much, we were really desensetized to it.
someone in class, basically making a remark about how i was so creepy, i'd probably be a school shooter, which teacher i'd go after. given that's some shit we'd probably talked about before, and not really recognizing it'd be highly innapropriate and raising a ton fo red flags, i answered.
cue the cops coming to my after school work place, and arresting me.
I genuinely appreciate that the narrator was real and told us that he had to re-record the part about the two kids that threw that dog and then buried it alive..
I honestly think animal abuse by children is such an underdiscussed topic in terms of how greatly significant that shit is as a red flag or behavior ESPECIALLY in children...
Man, I just want to hug all the animals now though.
Teaching preschool, we did home visits where a lot of parents would let their guard down and tell us all kinds of things. One parent told us she'd bought her 4 yr old boy, a puppy the week before. Over the weekend, he'd stomped it to death. Immediately, she called the child psychologist who was working with her child due to an incident that had happened to the child when he was 3. The psychologist told her it was a "normal" behavior exhibited by young, immature brains. I'm still horrified by his response to her.
As a 5 to 8 year old I don't remember how old I was exactly. I threw desks, hit them, yelled and cussed in class at other students and teachers. I don't even remember doing stuff like that. Later on in high-school i had meet someone that I had went to school with when I was that age and they said do you remember when you did this or this. The stories of stuff I did were terrible but don't remember. I was abused alot and stuff growing up before I was adopted so that was probably why I did that stuff. I was later adopted when I was 8 by my aunt and uncle and to this day friends and family tell me stories of stuff I don't remember doing. If anyone is reading this and remembers me by chance I just wanna apologized. I hope you're doing well.
Well I can give you one about me being a sociopath..
So around the age of 8 I discovered that the way I feel compared to others is very limited and that if I was hurt and someone else would hurt they would seem more extremely in pain, so as a 8 year old I studied my classmates behaviour and ended up being relatively popular around some kids by coping the 2 popular kids
Did you get a diagnosis?
In my (un)educated guess, that doesn't strike me as sociopathic behavior.
Huh! I'm wondering if that's just somewhere milder on the scale or if it's actually somewhere on the autism spectrum, hyper or hyposensitivity is common and not understanding social cues and having to copy them is one of the biggest things. This coming from someone with autism (who also looked up sociopath vs psychopath recently but that's not saying much)
Still a manipulator to this day?
A lot of parents think that 'It is just a phase' and will grow out of it. A lot of parents think they will get judged and do not want to be labeled as a bad parent so they will ignore it hoping the kid will 'level' out.
And some parents may also be narcissistic themselves and actively caused the issues (such as overindulgence). However, yes, it can definitely stem from nothing or the parents were not the cause -- many people forget about "nature" and chose to only believe in "nurture".
That story about the kids burying the dog really got me. I’m listening to this with all 6 of my pets in the room and I had to pause the video to pet/say I love them
My family didnt participate in the PTA and none of us were in extracurriculars or sports (which make the school money) so I was the go to scapegoat since my parents always assumed the school wouldnt lie so I will absolutely be one of "those" parents. You'd better have absolute court-ready proof.
What are you taking about? Not critical just don’t understand.
@@chucksolutions4579 Schools shield the kids that make the school money such as the football players. One senior QB in my high school made a racist active shooter threat over the PA system and didnt get in trouble for example.
I am not a teacher but was in kindergarten when halfway through the year we got a new student. Right from the start, this kid gave off the vibe that this kid didn't care about anyone but himself. He would constantly try to disrupt class and encourage other students to do the same. This kid also had really bad anger issues and would throw fits all the time, but not little ones. He would tear the classroom apart and scream, even pushing over a bookshelf and almost hiting a kid. I had one experience directly with the kid, and it still gives me an uneasy feeling thinking about it. It was like any normal day back at school, I went in and started the day just fine and had no interactions with this kid. Recess time comes around. I remember for some reason, I decided to go lay down on the ground near the outer edge of the playground. This playground had a fence to keep kids in since it was connected to the school like a lot of kindergartens were. Around the fence were big softball to football sized rocks. As I'm lying there, I see this kid walking up next to me, and I though hmm strange wonder what he wants? Next thing I knew, this kid picks up one of those big rocks, looks me dead in the eye, smiling, saying nothing, and just drops this rock on my head for no reason. All I remember from there was me crying and my dad picking me up while I held a buttfly ice pack the school gave me on my head. Worst of all everyday this kid got picked up a little earlier than everyone els and when his mom came in to get him he instantly starts saying "mom mom I was good today I was a good boy, I deserve a donut (the school was right across from a 7/11 and ig this kid gets a donut after school of he's good). He did not deserve that donut and it seems the teachers never said anything to his parents about how much he was misbehaving like he knew he could get away with anything. I still won't forget the smile he gave me before dropping a massive rock on my head, downright gives me chills and makes me wonder where he is today.
I am sorry for what you experienced. But by any chance do you remember what would be the facial expression of the mother of the kid when he said that? I mean to ask do u think she gave him attention? I do not mean to devalue you or your experience, but what I mean to say/ask is that the behaviour might be due to the kid not getting enough attention(little kids require some exhausting amount of attention) from parents and he would probably get physical abuse with rewards which are supposed to make kids happy like donuts (now they are mostly gadgets) for supposed compensation... And that creepy smile idea may be from movies or such, or maybe he didn't liked to see you peaceful when he was in misery... It's just assumptions, but I would appreciate your feedback
I feel really bad for the first kid, brain tumours can make people do weird stuff, and now she's going to be known as the creepy Sonic fanfic girl.
I was probably a kid teachers thought this about at times. I'm autistic and was almost completely untreated until I was 14ish. On top of that my mother had untreated bipolar, PTSD and probably more and was a compulsive liar, manipulative and very emotionally and at times physically abusive which as you can imagine severely fucked with me. I was generally either very quiet and cooperative and sweet while saying the craziest stories with a straight face or triggered, screaming and wildly violent. I wasn't very social so I didn't usually know much about others personal lives but if I found out something personal or vulnerable and was triggered I would absolutely use that vulnerability against them to hurt them as much as I could. To any adults watching I probably seemed either terribly unstable and cruel or terribly sad and in need of help or maybe both
Hi, how are you now?
@@ishathiru3516 years of therapy and staying far away from my mother have done wonders. I've gotten proper help with my autism and I like to think I'm doing pretty well.
In reference to the several stories about kids writing graphic torture, when I was in 6th grade, for a free writing assignment in class I wrote a full 'reservoir dogs' style torture scene, including fish-hooks in eyelids and lemon juice in cuts. Teacher was demanding I needed to be sent to a therapist, and was shocked hen my mom informed her I'd been seeing one for several years already 😂
Ah. One time I painted a man in the ocean, a stonefish biting him and his leg was bleeding
My teacher called it too violent
I loved reading a book called 100 Deadliest Things
I remember in elementary school, maybe 2nd or 1st grade, there was this small boy who threw stuff, mostly pencils, at overweighted students and call them fat. Caused a couple of girls to cry. He threw a pencil at me once, too. He screamed constantly and was always disrupting class in some way. Sometimes he ran around the classroom laughing while the teacher tried to chase him.
Ironically, his nickname was Chase, I believe. I lived in a bad neighborhood at the time, so I think his behavior may have been caused by some type of abuse that no one really did, or could, do anything about.
This reminded me of a really strange thing that happened last year. I have a cat that I take on walks on a lead. Near my home is a park and a playground so there’s usually lots of children there. Sometimes the kids wants to pet my cat, which is okay as long as they don’t try to carry him or are petting too roughly. My cat is very patient with kids and it’s almost never any problem. Cue this kid who starts asking a million questions, where did I get the cat, what does he eat, etc etc. Then he suddenly asks “what happens if you hit him?” I’m just stunned and fumbles for words and just say that it would hurt him and he’d probably bite you. Then the kid asks “what happens if you put a knife here?” and points to my cat’s back. I start saying you shouldn’t do that because it hurts the cat, but the kid interrupts me and says “then you’d be very sad and have to go to the hospital”. I picked up my cat and left. Don’t know how old the kid was but he couldn’t be older than 10. Maybe 8? Really wonder how he feels, because there’s something wrong there… just one more reason not to let your cats outside alone!
Im so happy to see old style.. Good that you tried, but thank you for listening us. I also listen your videos while doing stuff
I remember making a hitlist in middle school with the names of all the kids I hated, it got found by one of the kids (she wasn't on there) and they gave it to the teacher to try and get me in trouble for it. She didn't buy it, and threw it away. The reason I did it was most of the kids on the list had made me the one weird kid nobody likes, the pretty much manipulated the other kids into treating me like an actual wild animal, and I resented them so much for it. Still do resent them for it, but at least that incident snapped me out of the whole "I wish you were all dead" thing. I just ended up going down the "I wish I was dead" rabbithole lmao. But hey, I didn't try to kill any of them or anything, and have not had any thoughts of doing anything like that to anyone else since, so there's that!
This makes so much sense. My mother has sociopathic tendencies and as a child when her behavior would upset me she would forcefully hug me which distressed me even more.
I sort of have a story, but I was that kid:
I was a bit of a scary kid when I was about 7-10, I wasn't a physical threat at all, but I would distance myself from every other student, tell younger kids scary stuff like the "killer clown" thing, and spent most of my time drawing slenderman k1lling people. I'm not as weird now, turns out I was just a big horror fan, and I'm pretty sure I have some sort of undiagnosed mental problems. It's a bit funny looking back at my childhood drawings like "aww I drew a forest... wait no that's another slenderman one." Odd child.
OHHH I have a story. I'll never forget this.
So at the young age of 25 years old, I decided to become a foster parent. The first kid they gave me is this little boy who was 7. I'm going to call him.... Jason. So he was a really sweet kid at first. About a week or two later a neighbor comes knocking at my door. Super angry with me. Me and this neighbor have been cool since I moved there 2 years prior to having Jason.
He tells me that Jason has been hurting his dog. I thought it was something like yelling at the dog or something. NOPE. This kid was purposefully trying to throw the largest rocks at the dog simply because it barked too much.
Jason Later admitted it to wanting to crush the dog skull. Not gonna lie I freaked out. I called the social worker like six times. I have no idea what happened with Jason after he was given back to his dad. But I really hope he got help.
Damn that's scary
The peanut allergy story made me remember this one time when I was a kid. It was my birthday, I had a few friends over for the party. Mom brings out the cake and one girl pipes up asking if the cake had peanuts in it, stating she had an allergy. It was a store-bought cake, and the ingredients didn't state anything about peanuts, but we didn't want to take any chances. None of us were aware of said allergy and mom was scrambling to try and find something that didn't potentially have any peanuts in it, as we weren't able to run out and buy another cake. We were about to call the girl's mom but then she grins and says "just kidding!" and my mom has a little chat about not pretending to have allergies. Not a sociopath, but I think about that sometimes.
(Just wanted to share this story)
This was a very long time ago,so I don't remember much. Whole class went into closet, to grab something from their backpacks. A girl (around 6-8 at the time) was a pretty good kid, Nice to others, good grades, nice parents, had went in as well. I don't remember what happened, but soon, she started kicking another kid (6-7 boy) and got pretty much the whole class to join her. (Teacher was too busy, and wasn't near the closet) After everyone but one other girl was kicking him (She tried stopping them all, but did nothing but talk) she has snuck out of the closet, and walked up to the teacher. She told the teacher that the kid was being kicked. Teacher punished everyone but the two girls.
I was the girl who started it all, after that I never saw that boy again.
(Turns out the teacher found out a while later, but I was never punished)
Ohh I got a good story for this one.
Not a teacher but this was one of my only memories as a youngling of 3-4 years old. I had a friend who we’ll call KK (her actual nickname), KK was a very sweet kid with wealthy parents. We were neighbors and our mothers were friends so it instantly led to us being friends. I’m only aware of one sibling she had which was her younger brother who we’ll call John. John would come in and want to play with us sometimes but as an older sibling it was KK’s nature to decline. One day, I’m at her house in the basement playing with weird knockoff Barbies. Her little brother comes down with a freaking bloody knife. (Kid was 2) I was just staring but my petrified self managed to get out a few words. “Uh… KK… Your little brother has a knife.” The mother was in the basement also. “Don’t worry Max, it’s just a plastic knife he uses to play with.” I’m only just realizing now that why would his parents ever buy a two year old a bloody plastic toy knife??? Moved away and it’s been over 5 years so I hope he’s doing well.
This scares me out of wanting to have kids because I don't know how I could handle having a child that could possibly murder me in my sleep
Don't worry that won't happen if you pay enough attention. A new born infant isn't predicted to be a murderer...
Accept them if you think they have problems instead of neglecting them and their needs and get them some help
(I think that was all needed for me to not be the way I am today, I think it applies to all children. I am surprised I am not even saying majority but 'all'. I am not including Spirituality)
That + the knowledge of how much environmental impact one single child has + the economic pressure it puts on a household + the chances they become completely screen addicted and brainwashed by MSM being pretty much 100%.... There's pretty few reasons to have kids in 2024 IMO.
I always feel bad when new friends tell me theyre having a kid and I struggle to crack a smile cause on one hand I know it brings a lot of joy to a family and like ya I'm happy for y'all, but on the other hand it's honestly extremely selfish to even bring another human into this world while it's in it's current state...
1:35
The French translates to:
"How dare you compare the apple of the eye of Canada to a tumor! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries!"
have no idea about french, but i knew what the last part was, lol.
Story 7: I was ~170lbs when I was six (I was fat and tall for a 6 year old) and for some reason I was the person that other kids decided to bully for being fat. They stopped pretty quick when I learned how to fight.
That isn't fat its morbidly obese...
43 wasn't sociopathic at all. He just likes the way arms feel in his mouth. I can relate.
I think I may have heard of that "Do You Want to Build a Snowman?" parody. The one I'm thinking of is called "Will You Help Me Hide a Body?". 😂
I don't speak French but I'm pretty sure Mainly Facts Guy did the "Your mother was a hamster" quote from Monty Python's Quest for the Holy Grail, after the first story. I saw the word Hamster so I'm going to assume that's what he was quoting.
I got one. I had a student last year in my 8th grade ELA (English Language Arts) class who shared an example with the class for the word "puncture". His sentence was, "I want to puncture Johnny's lungs with my pencil." We actually had a decent student-teacher relationship though.
At various points during the school year: he would frequently talk about how he liked to punch concrete to make his knuckles harder for fighting, unplugged the surge connector that powers my computer, monitor, and TV multiple times, just to see my frustration, and always had the deadest look in his eyes - like he could murder someone for saying the wrong thing to him. He was very calm though 90% of the time. Mostly slept in my class and didn't do any work. Anyway, Those are just the main things I saw that could indicate some level of sociopathy. He also had a shit home life. Single mother who worked 2 jobs and barely saw him. I felt bad for him, but he had a threatening air about him that sometimes just scared the shit out of me.
Edit: Now that I think about it, maybe this is more psychopathic behavior than sociopathic behavior.
French here, the insult in french were so good i can't stop laughing
The way he said ”story 32” after voice acting as a child karen makes it feel like he paused the recrding and thought about his life choices for a good hour
This helps me remember that some of the things I did as a child were not okay, thankfully I never went beyond knife threats. And that my aunt's dog taught me the importance of being careful around animals. Mostly because he was an aggressive ball of fluff, he chilled out for a bit, but he's getting around that age and is on heart attack meds, the pain's making him act out again.
Here's something I would never admit to anyone I know. The only other person in my life who does know is my Husband. I have a disorder that's almost but not quite like Antisocial Personality Disorder. Its called Alexithymia. Its where someone has a hard time understanding both their own emotions and those of the people around them. I used to have a hard time empathizing with others and understanding why and how their emotions were important. People often describe me as being empathetic but the reality is I care about very few people. I've just gotten really good as anticipating others wants and needs and reading them. I'd happily let a lot of people get hurt if it meant protecting someone I love and I wouldn't feel bad about it at all. It was that statement to my therapist actually that clued her in. But I also have a hard time with my own emotions. I might be extremely angry or sad or even happy and not understand why I feel the way I do. Its better then it was a few years ago but I'll always live with this. I have a lot of "friends" who have no clue that I actually have little to no attachment to them. But I also have people who I haven't spoken to in years that I count as dear friends and hold close few though they may be
uhhhhhh so this sounds incredibly familiar to me and I'm a little freaked out.. I didn't realise this was a recognised disorder... I just assumed I'm autistic and that's why I have little to no emotional attachment to even some of my closest friends and could easily move on with my life without them despite my DESIRE to keep them in my life because I know logically I need friends, and I still enjoy helping them/making them happy/making them laugh etc... Literally my best friend believes I'm an empath and yet when she cries after watching something sad or something relatively minor happens to her (she is a very emotional person, which I understand is just how some people are, funny that shes on the opposite end of the emotional spectrum to me) it genuinely baffles me! Like I literally cannot comprehend why that certain thing would ever make her cry despite me understanding the emotion in question in a logical sense..
Perhaps I need to do a bit of research into Alexithymia.. ?
Had a student tell me "I hope your whole family dies so you won't be here anymore."
He was 7 years old. And he was angry that I put him in 'time out' because he wasn't following directions and causing a disruption to the rest of the class. He was from a broken family and had ADHD so that made things very difficult for him.
Even though working with this kid was very rough and he would often tell me other horrible things; towards the end of the school year he apologized, gave me a hug and told me I was his favorite teacher. This wasn't a matter of manipulation. But him recognizing that what he said when he was angry was wrong. Out of all of the teachers I always gave him the opportunity to share his feelings, talk it out with him. I actually paid attention to him and constantly I worked on things with him. Whereas a lot of the other teachers would just end up ignoring him, or blaming him. He was a sweet kid when he wanted to be. And really I think he just needed some positive attention. I do think he really regretted telling me that he wished my family would die.
(This comment is referring to story 37, I think)
You'd be surprised the effect having no friends can have on someone. Relishing in the fact that everyone in their respective friend groups will be gone one day is something I used to do, but it stemmed from the fact that no matter how hard I tried, they found a way to exclude me for one reason or another. You'd be surprised how mean elementary schoolers can be when you move schools and everyone refuses to talk to you, even making cruel remarks about you as a person. Luckily, I wasn't pushed to the point of harming others, but being nearly mute out of fear for 8 years as a result takes a toll on your social life. I can say that I'm working on my communication skills and no longer think that way anymore.
I can't stand animal abuse, either. To the point that, to me, an animal abuser is no longer human, nor worthy of any consideration or empathy I would afford a human. If a sub-human monster has abused or killed an innocent pet for no reason, I would have no problem ending the life of such a degenerate being if it meant protecting all the animals they may one day go to abuse.
Agreed
That first one 😂😂😂 that fact that you knew French lol was awesome 😂😂😂😂😂
nice, back to your old self. but it was a nice attempt and we appreciate your initiative
Oof, this reminded me of that kid. Back at my elementary school, we had this boy who's years below me. It's already well-known that he's a trouble-maker and has a severe case of ADHD (I'm not sure, but that's what I've heard). I was at the library at that time (his classroom was close to the library, unfortunately--hooray to small neighborhood schools) and one of his classmates pointed out that "he kept on failing because he's very hyper". Well... HELL BROKE LOOSE. I heard screaming. Crying. Chairs thrown. Cursing. Threats. All of it came from this certain boy. The teachers (even the librarian, I could clearly remember the poor woman running out of the library just to help) all rallied together to stop him and eventually called his mother. BIG MISTAKE. His mom's WAAAAAAAAAAAAY worse. INSTANTLY BELIEVED THE LITTLE SUCKER WHEN HE TOLD HER "Mommy, that stupid jerk broke my arm! See?) HIS ARM'S CLEARLY FINE, BUT NOPE, HIS MOM HAD NONE OF IT. His mom screamed her head off and cursed at everyone, including us students who just walked in to see what's going on. Even threatened to call the police and claimed that her brother's a "well-respected cop" and has a pretty high position. The teachers, vice principal AND principal all joined forces to stop the duo, and they eventually left the premises with the mother proclaiming "I'LL BE BACK. YOU'RE ALL GOING DOWN." Never saw them again after that, tho. Good grief.
When I was 2 my mom got me a hamster. I then grabbed the tiny hamster and squeezed it in my hand until it stopped breathing. When I was 3 my mom got me a cute little white mouse with little red eyes. I took the mouse and put it in a bucket of water to see if it could swim. It could not. At 4 my mom got me a baby chick. I threw it against the wall to see if it could fly. It did not fly and after that it stopped moving. Then at 5 my mom got me a puppy.
I jumped on it and broke its legs. My mom gave it away to someone else.
I wasn't a psychopath. I just had no understanding that animals feel pain and that they need love and respect.
I'm 28 now. And I'm a vegan. Didn't grow up to be a serial killer or anything. Sometimes parents need to teach their kids these lessons that seem obvious to us like how every living creature FEELS PAIN and it's not okay to cause others pain.
I didn't get it until years later.
I wish I had understood sooner but today I encourage everyone to have compassion towards animals. I cant even eat then because of what I did.
We all learn our lessons. 😞
I think the closest thing to a sociopathic child is also my biggest failure.
We had a kid who was in a room during clean up time. It was him, his brother, another boy, and a little girl. The main child of the story was about 9 at the time and he was a big kid. The other important character in the story is the little girl, who was 5.
The group was playing a board game, but the boy kept trying to tickle the girl. Looking over his shoulder just before he would. He even “jokingly” chased her around at one point. Like it was some game.
This was mostly caught on camera, but there was a blind spot that has since been made to where no one can go there. But we know he was trying to tickler her, and kept tickling her legs.
The boy was very quickly expelled from the daycare. And the girl took a few days off.
What gets me is that a dad walked in and instead of saying something to the kid or a teacher he waited until he was in the office to tell one of them.
But I find this to be my biggest failure because it happened on my watch. I should have been paying more attention, but I was so busy with the end of the day clean up that I missed this.
that french comeback in the sonic oc one is the best thing of the entire video so far
35:10 I kinda understand the kid on this one. It doesn’t necessarily have to be something at home. I have ADHD and in my very early years it was rampant and crippling. While I never used that specific phrase, I definitely felt/expressed similar things. Saying “you must not love me anymore” can be a childs way of expressing rejection dysphoria without understanding whats happening and why they suddenly just feel like the world is ending.
Your french is amazing! Good job!
See, I was going to say "Don't worry about bad French pronunciation; we're talking about Québec after all". But that might be mean ;)
When I was in kindergarten there was a kid that tormented me constantly. One day we were sitting on the carpet and he turned around and told me to scratch his back. I could tell by the way he said it it was a do it or I'll hurt you type of command. I knew he'd make me regret it if I didn't, but it also made me mad, so since he had given me an opening I literally scratched him. Of course he told on me and I got paddled by the principal. The "He told me to do it" thing didn't help. This was the first and last time I got sent to the principal.
For the most part he never bothered me again except for one time when I walked past him in middle school. Out of no where he screamed at me asking if I wanted him to kick my ***. I said "No", he said "I didn't think so", and kept on walking. Thankfully that was the last time I ever saw him. Though he was the one that was the bully I'm certain this set up the way teachers and other children viewed me throughout my time in elementary school. I often wonder if he intentionally set me up.
As someone from Québec, the first story is hilarious (And thank god for those subtitles, I never could've understood that lol)
the comment at 31:15 is exactly what happened with me. i was a troubled kid but it just turned out i was bipolar and i needed meds. as soon as i got meds i got 100x better
The kid with drastic mood swings sounds like she might be showing signs of bipolar at a very young age. I hope she’s doing better now
I babysat my neighbors’ eleven year old foster kid and he told me that once he was a grownup he was going to rape women and kids and if they told he would kill them. He was in foster care because his mother was afraid of him. The foster parents had to lock up all sharp instruments in their home. He was finally put into an institution where it was found that the part of his brain that controls impulse and basically conscience was dead, literally black and dead. I wonder what ever happened to him.
Your kid having issues doesn't mean you failed as a parent.
Your almost adult or adult child having the same issues magnified by 100 because you refused to correct the behavior young makes you a failure as a parent.
It's way easier to break bad behaviors and ensure they don't get ingrained in a person's personality when they are young.
Our son had anger issues from pre K to 2nd grade, we got him therapy, stayed consistent on consequences, taught him coping skills and made sure we constantly communicated with him about his behavior while making sure he got lots of one of one time with us.
In third grade he started to turn around, he's now in 5th grade, plays 2 sports, gets good grades, tested in the 99% percentile in math, is never in trouble, friends with everyone and his teacher said he's a positive influence,leader in the classroom and a delight to have in class.
Full 360 from 1st and 2nd grade where he was so busy getting in trouble and acting out his grades suffered and he had a hard time making friends because of his behavior.
He was able to make that 360 because his dad and I acknowledged the problem and dealt with it accordingly. It was a very stressful, hard, trying couple years but it paid off. Had we ignored it he probably would've ended up expelled from school with no friends and a rough future ahead.
For the kid who figured to suck arm for a rash. Well the rest of that story did point out they were autistic.
My kid has autism, goes to a school for kids with autism. They struggle with a lot of things, like really struggle at a young age. You may think they just dont have it in them, but they do, when something clicks for them it clicks for them. If you find a kids strength they are the ones that end up completing physics majors at age 12. Autism while it will seem they are hyper distracted if they click with something they are hyperfocused on it. To the point you wont get them to do other tasks, or they will do any task quickly if doing it will get them back to what they want to do. The problem is it is not always something advantageous.
So for the rash, they couldve seen a YT vid where someone did that, a sibling might have shown them, or someone else in school and they got fixated on it.
As for fake crying.. it can be hard to tell if its fake and it can be very hard to figure why they are crying (which is often something obscure and you have zero control over, like the sun being behind a cloud). Once they start they just wont stop and you just gotta let them calm themselves down, but often it gets worse before it gets better. In fact they will intentionally do things to upset themselves, then do it again. ie watch a video, get upset over something in that video, then watch it a billion times getting upset each time. But this is autism, they dont process emotions well and takes a lot of practice, which is what I assume my daughter is trying to do when she does that.
As for the grandparents reaction, the thing is when you see them doing that every day, multiple times you unfortunately train yourself to ignore those behaviours for sake of sanity, you can punish, which often just escalates the problem, ie sucking may become biting. A cry may become a full blown rage fit.
It's, "Will You Help Me Hide A Body" great song.🤣 So is, "Let Em' Burn" Let It Go parody.
People forget that a sociopath is someone who feels little remorse, to put it bluntly. A psychopath feels no remorse at all. There are tell tale signs to tell, but many are good at acting. They can be cold, calculated, and even fearless (notice “fearless”, not courageous.) to compare it to a high functioning autistic person (General association with personal experiences, not everyone), they can have very poor social skills (studies show that both groups find it hard to keep friends), on average very smart (not Einstein level, but smart to pass an SAT above average) and usually keep to themselves, which is circumstantial and where they differ the most. Autistic people on average have very high moral standings, they can tell what is right and what is wrong and will take the more ethical route, sociopaths when they want something they will take the easies path of least resistance (manipulation, lies, etc). Under a general comparison, they can seem very familiar, however, much like autism as a whole, it’s a case by case type of thing. Autism is a spectrum, not a specific thing. Some people in special Ed classrooms are autistic (low functioning) but the higher functioning can be no different from you or me, if a bit socially awkward. The same can go for Sociopaths and psychopaths. Given the proper treatment (not medical treatment) they can be like anyone else. At the end of the day they are still human, treat them as such and they can be one of your greatest friends.
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im with you on that one, its 4:30am in the morning, but i had to pick up and cuddle my doggo after listening to that one, even gave him a pupperoni, animal abuse is just not ok, personally i think we humans don't deserve them, theyre such a blessing and dont deserve such terrible treatment like those 2 kids did. or any form of harmful treatment for that matter, no matter how minor.
edit:cant remember which story it was now that the video is finished, but i can relate to that one kid who made the comment regarding the self formed group projects, he probably didn't choose to be a loner, but was outcasted by the class, its sadly very scarily common. i experienced the same thing due to my own disabilities growing up, granted, when i was much younger, i had thought that the kids who bullied me were my friends, because they willingly interacted with me, even if it was harmful to me, but that's just how it goes as a kid, wanting to be accepted however possible. im 25 now, and thankfully grew out of that mindset around 17 or so, but that was sadly my friendships for a good 4 years, 10-14. so i can kind of relate to that kid in trying to make himself feel better from being a class outcast.
my parents told me i was the little psychopath while i was in daycare lmao, apparently i would just move up to some random kid and then bite them without any explanation, school called my parents and they took me to a psychologist, turns out I just had ADHD
Wait a minute I did that to
Something that feels amazing is being a former child who used to try to do things like this, but was helped
How were you helped (serious question)? It could help others to know. What was at the root of your behavior?
I was a pedagogical assistant. In my last year in this job (I'm currently studying pedagogy), I had a boy in my class (grade 1 - 6-7 y/o), who didn't know how to interact with other children. He could (and wanted to) interact only with adults. He purposefully did vicious things to other children and also hurt them. When punishing him, I asked if he knew, what he did wrong. His answer was always overly polite, correct and logic, but somehow weird. I realized, he knows well what he did wrong, but he knows it because he was trained - like he was learned, that it hurts when somebody's hit by someone else, but he didn't seem to have any connection between the knowledge and the feeling of hurting. He knew, he should feel sorry, so he was trying to make appropriate facial expression. Honestly, this boy scared me. I guess I'll see him in crime news in the future.
I feel like I should comment this so people understand kid development better: Kids usually do not fully understand the concept of death until around 10 years old or have proper empathy until later than this. Around 8-10, kids start to push boundaries with more complex lies like pretending to be sick at school. Sexual behaviour in very young kids is often the result of sexual abuse or exposure to pornography. Very violent young kids may be physically abused, witness abuse, lack structure in their life, or have a developmental issue like autism or ADHD. Many bad behaviours in younger kids especially in regards to manipulation and how they speak to people are learned behaviours - they are mirroring how they see their parents or relatives handle situations and TALK.
Most of these kids were likely NOT sociopaths, but mimicking parents, being exposed to bad behaviours or inappropriate materials, lacking structure or if they did have issues, these were not being addressed, leading to further frustrations and the need to act out. Kids that harm, kill or attempt to kill siblings or pets, usually are not old enough to understand DEATH or the real consequences past what they THINK will happen i.e. more attention for themselves or lack of annoying sounds. They may not realise this is PERMANENT or unfixable the younger they are. They may not understand that you can't replace X with another because they're distinctly unique.
You have to remember as an adult, many of these things are obvious to you, but kids slowly have to build up these databanks of information which is why you have to be careful in considering accountability for kids and teens, they are much more malleable than you might think. Sometimes the answer to why X is acting like a sociopath is because they're just copying Mum. Some will grow out of it and some won't. But very few will be actually SET IN STONE EVIL no matter what anyone does. I don't deny there may be a few cases like that where their brain chemistry may just be so messed up, that all help fails even if they have a perfect loving family and endless support, but many more will be that the kid sees Dad talk to Mum like that, the parents don't monitor their kids internet access or restrict inappropriate content and so on, and that they were set up to fail by the circumstances they were born into or raised in.
Children are not sweet, innocent angels. All humans are flawed. Children can be just as evil as adults. Do not underestimate their cruelty.
Makes me terrified that so many of these young boys are now idolizing the likes of Andrew Tate
*shudder* 😖 So true…
What? 😂😂😂 Why are you posting such drivel?
Excellent shares, very well read! There seemed to be a pattern with lack of discipline causing sociopathic behavior - it really is a (popular) form of neglect.
I taught a kid a few years ago who I immediately saw as having something wrong behind his eyes. That culminated in him attempting to murder his parents while they slept, maiming one of them.
Every teacher I spoke to about him said the same thing: He was a violent incident waiting to happen, but no one could or was willing to do anything.
Jesus, I’m 14 and most of the people in these story’s are my age
This is utterly horrifying for me, if I was born to some of these parents, I might be like them
It's not always the parent's fault sometimes its friends, other family, people they look up to, things they've seen online, or other stuff like that
I'm not a teacher but there was a kid I went to high school with who I always wondered about. He wasn't violent or anything but he would just do the most inexplicable things. He was really smart and had a lot of unusual and specific talents, but he would also say the most confusing and obviously untrue things about himself. He claimed he did a lot of hallucinogens drugs like LSD or magic mushrooms even though I knew both of his siblings and they told me he was entirely straightedge and had never drank, smoked, or done any drugs. They said he pretended to be high all the time so that if he said some weird shit and others didn't believe it, he could explain it away the next day by claiming he was on drugs and hallucinating. He was adamant that he was a virgin and had never had a girlfriend but he was always visible on his social media with girls acting very obviously intimate with him, and an exchange student told me she'd slept with him and even showed me a (non-explicit) selfie they'd taken laying in bed together. But he showed up to our prom alone and said he didn't have a date because he was single, and everyone wondered what he was up to.
OMG your commentary is a much needed tension relief after many of these horror stories.
This story clicks all to well for me. I'm a dignosed sociopath i'm lucky that my parents caught on when i was 3 or 4 and got me into a therapist and got me dignosed im better now but still struggle with things like empathy (i'm 14 now)
I read something about how Sociopaths make better surgeons/EMTs because they’re better at looking past emotions and feeling the other person’s pain and can more efficiently do what needs to be done. There’s a place for everyone and it’s just important to direct our differences to contribute to the world positively.
My brother has narcissistic personality disorder and, though he sucks as a brother, he’s very successful working in sales because of the way his brain works.
There is no such diagnose.
Sociopaths do not exist and the psychopathy diagnose was replaced by antisocial personality disorder in the DSM.
Hearing the words ‘dog in a refrigerator’ will never not make me think of one of my Sims stories from about 6.5-7 years ago. I was playing around with a household where none of the Sims were related except for two girls were sisters (most of them were around the same age). The prom had recently happened, so the teens in the house were just starting to date each other. Well, the younger sister (a child when most of the others were teens) put her sister’s boyfriend’s dog in the FREEZER! In her defense, she and her sister were both cat people and she usually got the majority of the older sister’s attention. She still didn’t get a party for her birthday a few days (in Sims world) after that. No friends, no cake. She just aged up at 11:59 on her birthday and that was it. I wish I could lie about her putting the dog in the freezer part, sometimes Sims can be psychopaths even when we’re not controlling them. Funny part of this story, I was on another Sim when she did it and everyone else starts running over to the kitchen. At first, I thought the dog bit her and was about to punish the dog for biting the youngest Sim and switched over to him. I saw that one of his feelings was cold and looked at it…
I was a paraprofessional at a middle school and during the 2nd half of the year, this one boy had an interest in doxxing people. He also found a way to find all my social media accounts. He even wrote my old Twitter account on a whiteboard one time and attempted to make a fake Twitter under my name. And what does the school do? They forced me to continue working with this hellspawn and any time he got in trouble, it was in school suspension and I don't think he ever got sent home/expelled. This child lived to make my time at that school the reason I never wanted to work in public schools ever again.
Moral of the story, if you're ever working at a public school, private ALL your accounts.
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i feel sorry for these kids being labeled and judged instead of understood or redirected. shameful that the adults in their lives are failing them so early
I transferred schools in Grade 3 and I was shy and reserved. I felt isolated and had difficulty adjusting to my new school. 1st day in and immediately most of the girls in my class were hostile towards me and the boys had already formed friend groups and would constantly tease me and my interests. Since I was lonely, I ignored their insults and tried to conform to their ways in order to make friends. It was the same in Grade 4, but in Grade 5 I finally snapped and basically beat up most of the boys in my batch using the stiff beak of my cap, I even beat up the most athletic boy in my batch relentlessly beating him when I cornered him the bathroom. When I did that, I felt so powerful and from that point on I was constantly beating them up for no particular reason even as they asked me to stop and this continued for the entire year. Fast forward to Grade 9, my personality had completely changed from shy, reserved, and sensitive to dark, cold, and cynical and my facial expression was almost always calm and emotionless. That year we had new kids in our batch and 4 of the new boys ended up my class, I made it clear that I wasn’t their friend and was incredibly hostile to 3 of them for no inherent reason other than boredom and new victims to play around with. 1 of the new boys I got along with due to similar interests and personalities, but I was hostile to the rest. I would punch them, gaslight them, and say that they looked or were similar to famous dead people in history using my passion for law enforcement and world history. It was also in Grade 9 that developed an interest in psychology and ended up learning about sociopaths and psychopaths, as I learned about the traits and behaviors of both, I began to realize that I had some traits to that of a sociopath I was also told when I was younger that I had traits of Autism. Instead of using this to improve or reflect on my behavior, I used this as another method of psychologically attacking other people. When I was asked by a teacher to share a secret to the whole class, I said that I categorized people into 2 categories: A Sociopath or A Psychopath, I immediately told my classmate that he had traits to that of a psychopath. Due to my study of history, I looked up psychological warfare and interrogation methods from various government and law enforcement organizations, most notably the East German Stasi. By then I was also psychologically attacking some of my teachers via sarcastic remarks, gaslighting, or bluntly saying that I didn’t like them or their classes, whenever the person I was attacking, student or teacher, was affected by my actions, I would always have a huge grin on my face until I eventually got bored and moved on or was satisfied with the result. But the oddest thing for me was that I would never harm an animal and even felt an incredible amount sadness in me whenever I saw an animal suffer, I had little to no remorse whenever I hurt or saw a person get hurt but would always break down at the sight of seeing an animal suffer. And here we are now, with me writing this extremely long story of my descent into a dark personality. Looking back on my behavior I don’t regret any of things I did, but now that I’m self-aware I am now trying to improve myself and find ways of controlling my negative impulses on people. I’m not exaggerating or trying to defend my actions, I’m just presenting my behavior as it is. Thanks for reading this.
There was a kid at my school with behavioural issues, and once we were hanging out in the local park and we decided to play soccer. Her dad was there and she decided to throw herself on the ground and accuse me of pushing her over, I had the ball in my hand, I asked her if she was ok and her dad (who was about 35+ at the time) came and KNOCKED ME TO THE GROUND (a 6yo and in doing so ripped off my fingernail) and took the ball out of my hand and took his daughter home. When my parents got me from the park (I only lived about a block away) he called my parents and told them what I had apparently done, and my mom snatched the phone from my dad and screamed at him, it was about 7 years ago so I can't really remember, what happened
I may come out as an ass or something. I may come out as a terrible person.
But if someone is genuinely beyond saving, whether it’s an adult or child
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Put them down. It sounds terrible and cruel but to avoid anymore “famous” killers, let’s stop them in their tracks. Perhaps it’ll cause more, maybe less, idk, but now that we have more knowledge about certain traits and access to “cures” or “remedies”? No, 1 sacrifice for 100 to live. The family who had that “bad apple” should be ashamed (unless you’ve genuinely tried. In that case, I’m sorry).
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If she were a real Sonic fan, she woulda said that her tumor was the size of a chaos emerald
I was that kid. I have autism and empathy and common sense was definitely a taught skill. I had this rivalry with this boy (we'll call him Devin). Honestly I don't even know why we had a rivalry, there was nothing to be rivals about. Anyway in 6th grade I was very into the Simpsons and loved the Itchy and Scratchy segments. So I drew a Itchy and Scratchy like comic but it's me grinding Devin into spaghetti. I thought it was funny and acceptable as it was on TV. Needless to say I got into a lot of trouble with the teachers and my parents and we weren't allowed to watch the Simpsons anymore. They had to explain very carefully why it was wrong and how I hurt Devin's feeling. Luckily I am a rather normal adult and I cringe when I think back to that comic. I'm sorry Devin.
The fact that there are so many stories about this just gives me goosebumps. God please help our generation. Humans are getting worse and worse.☹️
Not a teacher but here's my sociopath student story: there was this guy in the special needs class in my school almost all through school. He was like 3 years older than everyone in his grade. So here's the terrifying part; the teachers and supervisors would just let him run wild. He would run around the halls and bite or stab people, even when someone was watching. He would do it specifically to watch them scream and cry in pain, and he would laugh and smile in pure joy at the sight of it. He wasn't in the special needs class for learning disorders, he was there because he was physically incapable of feeling pain at any level, so he had a lot of motor skill issues. But he learned to run after people and stab them or bite them well enough because it was his passion. And he never got in trouble for anything. EVER. And he knew it. Everyone was too scared to go out in the hall if he was there. No one ever told him not to do that. He has actually killed animals before just to watch them suffer, it is a known fact because in that shithole town all the moms with the most disabled kids made them hang out together, and the other kids with sever disabilities were actually nice to talk to so the ones who weren't non-verbal would warn the other kids about him. No adult ever did anything, even after he sent other kids to the hospital. Repeatedly.
Not a teacher, and when this happened I wasn't even in school. Though, after my mother and eldest sister informed me of what was happening around me it sticks with me.
I'll call the 'Antagonist' Angie, she was a girl I grew up with when I lived in Hawaii.
When I was growing up with her she seemed fine, but that most likely was my unawareness of her. I never understood anything she did was wrong, it started when I met her.
One day, after the new family that Angie lived with moved in next door, my family went to go greet them, and it was normal. Hellos, talking, etc. Though, when my parents came in and introduced me and my eldest sister, (we'll call my sister Shelly) Angie walked up to me, and slapped me across the face. I didn't care, since I was like 4 and Angie was about to turn 4, she didn't have much power against her slap, still un-needed aggression.
TW'S FOR EXTREME ANIMAL VIOLENCE/DEATH FOR REST OF STORY
The next story that unnerves me to this day was when I was around 5, a year after meeting Angie and her sister. We were sitting in their backyard, a mini pool Infront of us, the size of a toy. We all were holding baby chicks, we were playing and doing things as usual as Angie stood up and called out. ` Hey! Look at my trick! ` All of us, me, Shelly, and Angie's sister stared at Angie curious. Shelly stared at Angie in horror as Angie dropped the baby chick, it squealed as it fell, then it began running off. Angie walked back up to the chick, then grabbed in as the chick by its neck and began thrashing it under water, then held it. The chick squealed and flailed, then slowed down. The chick had died, and after my mother found out, she brought us back home. My sister was around 7, she is 2-3 years older than me, and it pains me to know she has to remember that.
I found out a few years after I moved away from Hawaii that Angie had stuck her dog in her freezer because her sister was playing hide and seek. Me and my family moved away so we don't know a lot about what happened but the dog was 11, and was a wiener-dog, so it was small enough to fit.
TW 'S FOR ABUSE AND VIOLENCE
I talked to Angie a few months ago, she opened up about the stuff that happened as a child, and I believe it had much to do. She has been violent towards children in her class, mostly if they bring up her father. She was beaming about it, she seemed rather proud of herself. She may of been able to hear the concern in my voice, although she still opens up to me. She has said growing up her mother drank and smoke a lot. She had to be sent outside of her home by her father, since he knew a fight would arise. Her parents fought often since her father cheated, and her mother being bi-polar, and a cheater already got mad about it. She had cheated before, it just didn't feel nice when it happened back to her I guess. Her mother wasn't able to control her anger, Angie has been quite good about it though thankfully, only few things getting to her. I can't list much things that she went through, since it most likely be aloud and it is sad to write. Though to sum it up, she was emotionally neglected, threatened her and her sister, her elder sister was basically forced to raise Angie (her sister is 3 years older than Angie), and her father was often far away in the army, so her mother lied about him. It's sad to know all of this abuse I wasn't aware about.
As someone who was an insanely sociopathic kid and went through adoption at a young age idk if I speak for others but I find it very hard to show empathy now and on a daily basis have horrifically violent intrusive thoughts… I don’t tell people I know about this but I feel like I can say it here. I probably need therapy but I’ll just count on self control for now.
Not a teacher whatsoever (im still in hs) but my siblings are absolutely insane. My brother more so than my sister. Their mother is a hoarder so the house has always been fun of stuff, and the only real break from all the chaos is outside, so the winter months are when in gets especially mental. Luckily i only need to go there two times a week dude to the fact that i have a different mother than them, but even those two day there are miserable times of my existence. The kids enjoy killing snails and bugs, and try throwing rocks at wasp nests, one time even trying to crush a rabbit by climbing onto the shed roof and dropping rocks on the poor thing (luckily the rabbit survived). My sister is more into psychological torment that she uses to manipulate my stepmom, dad, and brother, whilst my brother enjoys physically attacking people, even going so far as to set my hair on fire when he was 3. The most unsettling thing they do is they mimic the stuff that they see their parents do. This means literally abusing each other to the point of bleeding, kissing each other, and touching each others privates, with the excuse that “but mommy and daddy do it”. And to add a cherry on top of this cake of disaster: my sister is 8, my brother is 5.