My favourite Bach's concerto which introduced me into the world of classical music 50 years ago... It started with Bach, it lasts with Bach and it will end with Bach. Still tears in my eyes and goosebumps every time I hear it.
by who? who underrates it? And what is rating here after all? It is irrelevant thing such as rating of the instrument. They are used where they fit general idea. When you need oboe, oboe is used, need tuba, here you are. Alto flute? very well here it is. What's the problem?
@@russellpowers86 Compared to something like the tuba or double bass, there is a lot of repertoire for solo oboe and it is one of the most prominently featured woodwinds in orchestral works. Many great, famous oboists if you look for them. Albrecht Mayer and Francois come to mind, with Heinz Holliger being possible the most well known.
Of everything on TH-cam there is nothing I've watched more than this one particular performance. It is high art at its best. Breathtakingly beautiful and astounding. I will probably watch it another 200 times
If all good music were a body, this might be an earlobe - a nice one at that. Go forth and listen to other Bach, Vivaldi, Liszt, Mozart, Chopin, Rachmaninov, Elgar, Beethoven, Brahms, Schubert, Scriabin, Tchaikovsky, ... Classical is an oasis.
My musical career of fifty something years has gone from Rock, to many years in cabaret, and new country but in all my years playing and singing i have never been reduced to tears by the beauty of someone playing, this lady’s playing is so pure. I think i have found the genre of music i should have been listening to instead of some of the rubbish I’ve spent so many years playing (but it pays the bills) thank you
Unfortunately many musicians need to play certain kind of music just because it pays their bills but aren't art. Classical music in general is a kind of music that's born into aristocratic rooms and later used by bourgeons to show off richness and cultivated manners. Then classical music needs a full dedication to be WELL PLAYED. And if you aren't rich who has time enough to study and practice properly but have to work to survive then you have a problem. Unfortunately classical music is elitist.
@@millennial8441I was born into a working class family. I can't recall my parents listening to classical music. But I found it and was drawn to it. Its audiences may be elitist but the music isn't and Bach was a musician for hire. I have 'catholic' music tastes, yet this is the music which resonates most deeply within my emotional being. So, forget your social posturing and allow yourself to listen without the weight of your prejudices stopping up your ears.
The Adagio is one of the most soulful conversations, speaking deeply to each of us, inviting us into a place of reconciliation and peace. Thank you NBS.
Newton, Einstein. No. It was J.S. Bach that was the true genius. I love scientific discovery. I long to know the world. But nothing makes me feel like Bach.
Amazing. I said that to my wife, five minutes ago. My first seeking-to-study classical piece of music was a was a cheap version of if from a man with a table in front of a Target type local discount store store. He had a boombox playing this piece. Until then, nothing but pop and jazz.
This is marvelous. The NBS is to be congratulated and thanked for returning the personal, small ensemble radiance to Bach's works. We become too easily inured to the muddy, "Wagnerian philharmonic" renderings of so many of these pieces, that it is too easily forgotten that they were written for the immediate intimacy and delicacy of individual performance.
That is just the problem. Baroque orchestras were in small scale because the instruments were supposed to play in chambers of the royalties, nobilities, and aristocratic small rooms. It is a complete disaster play baroque music with modern instruments and using the mahlerian-scale orchestra. The same thing goes to play romantic, modern, and contemporary music using baroque musical instruments.
do people really try to play bach with a full orchestra--even on the scale typically reserved for late mozart or early beethoven? Do you know of any recordings? I'd be curious to hear what it sounds like.
@@Admiralmeriweather Many examples are available. Try Glenn Gould playing Bach's "Piano" concertos. Personally, I hate them because Bach musical lines must have clarity. If the orchestra is bigger than the two instruments for part the musical lines intermixture badly. I do not recomend this type of listening. Baroque music is intimacy, even for a Vilvadi-ish approach.
@@millennial8441 The Beatles used Harpsichords, Recorders, and Sitars in their music, the revival instruments (harpsichord) for works composed for Wanda Landowska (harpsichord concerto) by then contemporary music, the Theme for the TV show Taxi opened with a solo on the recorder would be exceptions to the list...
@@millennial8441 Of the many examples one needs go no further than KUSC radio online. Harpsichord Suites pieces by J S Bach or G F Handel (the scores of Bach have the German or French word for harpsichord) are invariably are called Keyboard Suites, Scarlatti Sonatas (more often than not, it's Guitar transcriptions played) likewise "Keyboard Sonatas," works by F J Haydn all performed on . Any Yehudi Menuhin performances of the Brandenburg Concertos on record. Many of Mozart's works and Beethoven on non-Period instruments with modern violin strings, valve Horns. Mozart, Haydn, and Beethoven also played the Clavichord. Haydn purchased a 5 1/2 octave Harpsichord from Shudi in 1775; he prescribes harpsichord for his solo keyboard sonatas as late as his E minor Sonata (H. XVI: 34) first published in 1784. In letters from March and April of 1789 he refers to his C Major “Clavier” Sonata (“keyboard” sonata-a generic designation) and he includes a middle movement with the title “Adagio per Clavicembalo o Piano-Forte” (“Adagio for Harpsichord or Pianoforte”), however by that vintage Clavier had lost its generic definition (which included organ), and acquired in some localities a meaning as a synonym for clavichord. Beethoven had left instructions that his nephew's clavichord should be tuned in 1821. In Cecil Forsythe's Orchestration published before the First World War, besides references to Gustav Von Holst's works for Sarrusophones, the book also noted that Haydn did not use hand stopped notes in the Natural Horns, that Mozart used hand stopped notes (changes the timbre) in the solo parts, and Beethoven used hand stopped notes in the Tuttis as well as the solos. Richard Wagner in one of his major works used both valve and natural horns. Mendelssohn in the Midsummer's Night Dream wrote of the "Serpent" (Bass of the Cornett family). Even in large orchestral works, instrument substitutions continue. F valve Trumpets are invariably not used in Strauss (as indicated in the score) Also Sprach Zarathustra The first steel E string appeared around 1910, but didn't gain prominence until the Second World War when sheep gut became scarce. From the 1880s until the development of steel strings, silk strings were used as an alternative to gut, but usually only in the case of an emergency. How many orchestras use gut strings for works composed before 1910, or for that matter works written prior to 1941? The main reason besides economics, or rather the Modern Symphony consists of compromised Orchestral instruments most used as substitutions (or in the case of French music with Saxophone parts, the exception is Ravel's Bolero, the instruments are simply omitted) with the expectation to play works from all eras to an audience that grew up with these instruments, and not knowing better or the timbre's the Great Master's originally had in mind when composed.
I was at this concert. Traveled all the way from London just to see them and it was worth every penny. The ensemble is incredible and Shunske Sato is just sublime. Funny story I sat next to the cellist’s husband.
My Parents immigrated from Germany post WW2 after Dad was offered a job with the US Air Force. I and Sis visited Leipzig. Germany with Mom when Sis and I were in our teens and visited church there where Bach was Organist .and Sis and I met our Grandparents for the very 1st time! This wonderful music brings all that back.....Have started listening to Bach every Sunday ( at least)! !
I listened to this pieace thousands of times since I was 5 and never heard such an interpretation. That third movement was orgasmic especially the violin!
That is not what I hear, I hear two drasticly different ideas on how Bach should be played, the hoboist plays the beautiful melodies naturally while the violinist, while very good and talented, seems to place Bach in the wrong time period.
geir øyvind eskeland Jesus/God was the reason for this Bach’s success even Bach himself said it “all glory to God” and he wrote it after all of his pieces. Bach was the most humble person to ever exists he even asked to be buried in an unmarked grave because he wanted all of the glory to go to God. this is the reason Bach is the person I look up to the most as inspiration not just because of his God gifted talent but his personality and his humbleness. This is all factual as far as the the quotes I mentioned
Wonderful. Both soloists play with such understanding and delightful nuance. And impeccable tempi throughout - neither too slow nor too fast. Many, many thanks to everyone.
Wonderful interplay between soloists and orchestra. It’s as if they are improvising , and vocalizing , which to me is the mark of a terrific performance.
AGAIN! BACH! You bring to me such joy in listening to your music, oh how my soul rejoices in what God my Savior has placed in the mind of His servant to give to all the world. Thank you God, Thank you Bach, thank you Netherland Back Society, all the musicians and everyone who makes this possible.
I ask, am not a musician, but appreciate Bach, play this repeatedly as enjoy it immensely, was Bach thinking of a field or meadow that was filled with the vocalizations of birds?
It is the "worst" baroque wood wind instrument if one wants balance and mixture. That's the reason why British baroque composers called the baroque oboe "the naughty boy" because its prominent sound color is hard to beat down. And they preferred the alto recorder instead because it blends pretty well.
All of these glorious works are performed with the greatest respect and utter freshness. Thank you for making these available!! Beautiful beyond words.
saw the 2 soloists in Sydney earlier this year, they were absolutely fantastic. how good is that piece when interpreted with such respect of the style and line!
QUOI DE NOUVEAU ! BACH! !MUSIQUE TOTALEMENT INTEMPORELLE ! QUI FAIT VIBRER À DONNER DES FRISSONS MAGISTRALEMENT INTERPRÉTÉE ! SOYEZ EN TOUS ! INFINIMENT REMERCIÉS ! ON SE SENT IMMÉDIATEMENT EN VOUS ÉCOUTANT RELIGIEUSEMENT MEILLEURS ! ET L ON.VOUDRAIT QUE JAMAIS CETTE PARTITION SI BIEN INTERPETREE NE S ARRÊTE ! ENCORE # MERCI.# QUOIQUE EN L OCCURRENCE CE MOT ME SEMBLE BIEN FAIBLE ! AVEC MES PROFONDS RESPECTS POUR CE SUBLISSIME MOMENT.
Sublime y Orgánico Concierto. Todos Magistrales. El Oboe Excelso, Emma Black es una Virtuosa. El Violín y la Dirección Geniales, Maestro SATO GRACIAS DESDE MÉXICO.
ESPECTACULARMENTE HERMOSO TODA MI ADMIRACION PARA EL CONCIERTO Bach- concerto for Oboe and Violin in C Minor BWV 1060r- Bach and Sato Netherlands Bach Society
@@defner.9251 You need a lot of patience, no playing with force, and each note has to be constructed as you go along. I've been playing Baroque oboe for about 10 years and I am finally getting the hang of it!
Wunderschöne Aufführung dieses kompakten und perfekt komponierten Doppelkonzerts im gut phrasierten Tempo mit herrlichem Ton der genialen Solobarockoboe und seidigem Ton der ebenso genialen Solovioline sowie gut harmonisierten und perfekt vereinigten Tönen anderer historischen Instrumente. Alles ist wunderbar!
@@notaire2 Man merkt's. Ewig die gleiche Platte - und das trotz der unglaublichen Vielfalt an Musik und der Qualität der Interpretationen auf dieser Plattform. Aber gut, es gibt diejenigen, die alles verklären und mit süßen Honig verbrämen - es wird dann halt bloß von Mal zu Mal klebriger.
Gorgeous performance! As a violinist myself, I can tell you that playing the slow movement of this concerto is truly a religious experience! As Bach himself said, Soli Deo gloria!
Period instruments and a flawless performance. Oboe is hard enough on modern instrument. Playing on a period instrument? Wow. Spectacular. And the rest of the ensemble. Excellent.
Another reconstruction, and this one I recognize, from some chembalo consert. As long as the reconstructions are this good, I have no objections. It is still 100% Bach. So happy to have the opportunity to listen to this! I have newly found Netherlands Bach Society, and I enyoy every minute.
>Another reconstruction, and this one I recognize, from some chembalo consert. Yes, here it is --> th-cam.com/video/uIpt-9Crhy0/w-d-xo.html, th-cam.com/video/enaoi8a5f-Y/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/nOylK6aDLqA/w-d-xo.html.
Qué tienen estas piezas que no me canso de escucharlas. Tengo 52 años y las conozco desde niño y nunca me han dejado de gustar y ahora con el desarrollo de nuevas fuentes de alta fidelidad se escuchan como nunca antes. Gracias a toda esa buena gente que interviene para que todos las podamos disfrutar.
When I scroll through all of the comments… I couldn’t agree more, with all of them…such beautiful and meaningful statements on Bach’s musical out pouring…My neck tingles with goose pimples when reading your comments and listening to his music...Harvey Perkoff
The pizzicato of the double bass in the 2nd movement is very interesting: it gives a gentle but strong attack to the sound, and it makes the double bass rise in the blend of all the instruments
WOW! What an incredible performance. The oboists technique is impeccable even on this very limited instrument. Gorgeous! Thank you for brightening our days.
Hello from Pennsylvania. This is a superb rendition of a Bach work which is beyond sublime. Just breathtaking. Thank you so very much. I suppose that the Japanese violinist is supposed to be the star, but in my opinion the oboist is the big hit by far in this performance. What a fine job she does!! Thanks specifically to her!!! Stay well everyone. CAS.
A relatively soft-edged version that brings out the detail and delicacy of Bach's writing. Gives a different emphasis to more sharply-pointed versions; both can be enjoyed on their own merits. Amazing to think that up to 100 years ago this work was only known in its clavier arrangement and that intelligent musicologists managed to trace it back to deduce the lost original and identify the combination of instruments used (after an initial attempt with two violins).
It's a hypothetical reconstruction. In the 1874 preface to the Bach Gesellschaft edition of the concerto for two harpsichords, Wilhelm Rust had suggested that the original version of the concerto would have been for two violins. Max Schneider's reconstruction as a concerto for two violins in D minor in 1920. I am inclined to agree as the F Major Harpsichord Concerto (with obbligato Records) was originally the 4th Violin Concerto in G major. Concerto in C minor, BWV 1062 for two harpsichords is a transcription of the "Double" Concerto for 2 violins n D minor, BWV 1043, which was written circa 1730, about the same time as the arrangement. In 1886 Woldemar Voigt wrote that the original instrument for the part of the second harpsichord was more likely an oboe, and that the original of the concerto could almost certainly be identified with a lost concerto for oboe and violin mentioned in a 1764 Breitkopf catalogue. On the other hand, the lost concerto might have been a complete (and lost manuscript) earlier concerto which became the basis of the opening Sinfonia of the cantata Geist und Seele wird verwirret, (BWV 35, a Cantata for Alto Voice, Organ obbligato, 2 oboes and English Horn ancestor (Taille), and strings) which became the basis of the Harpsichord (and obbligato Oboe) Concerto in D minor, BWV 1059 (fragment) which exists only in 9 bars. Musicologists (20th century) are under the Publish or Perish pressures (the 3 "P's" of academia), there's too much speculation. Most of the so-called Bach Violin concertos are reconstructions of Harpsichord Concertos. Only the Violin Concerto in A minor (Bach), the Violin Concerto in E major (Bach), and the Concerto for Two Violins (Bach) are from J S Bach's hand. The 8 other violin concertos for one or more violins (and other obbligato instruments) are hypothetical reconstructions in other words "Guess Works." Musicologists aren't always intelligent, witness the recent claim that Bach's wife wrote the solo string sonatas/partitas was based on a modern translation of the French word that meant copied (18th meaning) to 20th Century "written." All the musicologist had to do was to check was a 18th century dictionary...
@@Renshen1957 However Tovey and others pointed out various reasons why this particular concerto looks more likely to be violin and oboe than two violins. It certainly lies very happily for this combination. The two violins idea is equally hypothetical, but it certainly seems most likely that this was an arrangement for clavier and not specially written for it.
@@iankemp1131 There's no question that the arrangement was for a harpsichord, however, how many solos concertos did J S Bach write for Oboe or Oboe da Amore? Zero. J S Bach did arrange a number of Cantata Sinfonias with an obbligato organ part. The Harpsichord Concerto in D minor, BWV 1052 originates from Two movements of the cantata, Wir müssen durch viel Trübsal, BWV 146 the Sinfonia and the first movement. A similar Obbligato Organ "concerto" are found for movements of his cantatas Gott soll allein mein Herze haben, BWV 169, and Ich geh und suche mit Verlangen, BWV 49an instrumental concerto. Then there's the Sinfonia to Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir, BWV 29, in D major scored for obbligato organ, oboes, trumpets and strings, 1731, which is an adaptation of the E major Partita for Solo Violin's Prelude, and again the Organ part is transcribed downward one tone, for two reasons, J S Bach wrote for the Organ as a transposing instrument (Chorton pitch) and the top note being c''' (which played d''') as that was the limit of the organ's keyboard compass.
@@Renshen1957 Well, just because Bach wrote no other solo concertos for oboe doesn't mean he didn't write one! He used a variety of different combinations in other concertos, some unique. Your argument would imply that Mozart didn't write a clarinet concerto and that Beethoven, Mendelssohn and Brahms (etc) didn't write violin concertos. Plus, some would suggest that BWV 1053 was actually originally written for oboe, though that seems more speculative.
@@iankemp1131 There's no question that J S Bach wrote for the Oboe, Oboe d' Amore, Oboe da Caccio, in his Cantatas. The middle movement of the Concerto, sources from Bach's Cantata Ich steh mit einem Fuß im Grabe, BWV 156 with the Oboe solo scored for the solo line, in F major. In a practice to pay homage to another composer (of which CPE Bach references in the Nekrolog for his father in 1753) was the practice of quotation of a melody from another composers. The melody closely resembles the opening 2 1/2 measures of J S Bach's good friend (and Godfather to his son CPE Bach ) G P Telemann's Flute Concerto in G major (TWV 51:G2) in that the soloist plays essentially identical notes for the first two-and-a-half with the concerto being in the relative major of Ab. (Some have noticed a shorter quotation of Telemann for the opening of Bach's Goldberg variations. The Harpsichord concerto outer movements are possibly sourced from another "lost" concerto for violin in G minor according to one musicologist, again supposition. Be that as it may, the "reconstruction" has an Oboe as the solo instrument. J S Bach "cut and pasted" a number of works, such as the E minor Partita sources two movements from The sixth sonata in G Major for obbligato harpsichord and violin, BWV 1019: the Corrente as a harpsichord solo in e minor; and the Tempo di gavotta as a duo for violin and harpsichord, however that doesn't infer the entire E minor Partita was composed for Violin and obbligato Harpsichord. The 6th Sonata exists in three different versions, and if I had time, I could cite how many variants of the French Suites, the Well Tempered Clavier Parts 1 and 2 (early and later revised editions). J S Bach had a thing about sets of six, Six being the Biblical number of man, falling short of perfection (the number 7). One thing is for sure, J S Bach did not leave a set of 6 Oboe concertos, the closest we get is the F major Brandenburg for a concerto with the Oboe as solo instruments shared with three other solo instruments. One of the common practices of "Pfeifers" and similarly continues into the present, Flute (and Recorder) Players doubled on the Oboe. Although better known as one of the premier Flute players and composers, J J Quantz started his career as an Oboist, and switched to the Transverse Flute exclusively during his illustrious career with Frederick the Great.
After all the centuries.....this music has not lost its impact on the human soul....it really is fantastic
nor did any sort of competition show up
I concur, Johann Sebastian Bach is my teacher, the teacher of existence and being
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My favourite Bach's concerto which introduced me into the world of classical music 50 years ago... It started with Bach, it lasts with Bach and it will end with Bach.
Still tears in my eyes and goosebumps every time I hear it.
Oboe is such an underrated instrument.
by who? who underrates it? And what is rating here after all? It is irrelevant thing such as rating of the instrument. They are used where they fit general idea. When you need oboe, oboe is used, need tuba, here you are. Alto flute? very well here it is. What's the problem?
@@Galova a lot of other solo oboe concertos? Any famous oboists?
@@russellpowers86 maybe you missed it but I know of this instrument all my life.
@@russellpowers86 Compared to something like the tuba or double bass, there is a lot of repertoire for solo oboe and it is one of the most prominently featured woodwinds in orchestral works. Many great, famous oboists if you look for them. Albrecht Mayer and Francois come to mind, with Heinz Holliger being possible the most well known.
for those who that knows nothing about music and the history of it, yes it's underrated
This still rocks hundreds of years later.
Bach reigns forever, just because it's BACH. BACH damn it
Of everything on TH-cam there is nothing I've watched more than this one particular performance. It is high art at its best. Breathtakingly beautiful and astounding. I will probably watch it another 200 times
Me the same
Me too!
If all good music were a body, this might be an earlobe - a nice one at that. Go forth and listen to other Bach, Vivaldi, Liszt, Mozart, Chopin, Rachmaninov, Elgar, Beethoven, Brahms, Schubert, Scriabin, Tchaikovsky, ... Classical is an oasis.
My musical career of fifty something years has gone from Rock, to many years in cabaret, and new country but in all my years playing and singing i have never been reduced to tears by the beauty of someone playing, this lady’s playing is so pure. I think i have found the genre of music i should have been listening to instead of some of the rubbish I’ve spent so many years playing (but it pays the bills) thank you
Unfortunately many musicians need to play certain kind of music just because it pays their bills but aren't art. Classical music in general is a kind of music that's born into aristocratic rooms and later used by bourgeons to show off richness and cultivated manners. Then classical music needs a full dedication to be WELL PLAYED. And if you aren't rich who has time enough to study and practice properly but have to work to survive then you have a problem. Unfortunately classical music is elitist.
Sin hablar del daño que causa el ruido llamado roca.
@@millennial8441I was born into a working class family. I can't recall my parents listening to classical music. But I found it and was drawn to it. Its audiences may be elitist but the music isn't and Bach was a musician for hire. I have 'catholic' music tastes, yet this is the music which resonates most deeply within my emotional being. So, forget your social posturing and allow yourself to listen without the weight of your prejudices stopping up your ears.
One thousand years from now, this masterpiece will still be performed and enjoyed. Bach was profoundly talented and intelligent.
The Adagio is one of the most soulful conversations, speaking deeply to each of us, inviting us into a place of reconciliation and peace. Thank you NBS.
That third movement ! Finally someone understands the BACH GROOVE ! Dancing to Bach ❤️
I fealed a groove also in other pice a chor from bwv 178
@@Mr55330 i have to listen to BTW 178 then ! Thanks!
Newton, Einstein. No. It was J.S. Bach that was the true genius. I love scientific discovery. I long to know the world. But nothing makes me feel like Bach.
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One of the first pieces by Bach I ever heard, 65 years ago, and still one of my favorites.
Amazing. I said that to my wife, five minutes ago. My first seeking-to-study classical piece of music was a was a cheap version of if from a man with a table in front of a Target type local discount store store. He had a boombox playing this piece. Until then, nothing but pop and jazz.
This is marvelous. The NBS is to be congratulated and thanked for returning the personal, small ensemble radiance to Bach's works. We become too easily inured to the muddy, "Wagnerian philharmonic" renderings of so many of these pieces, that it is too easily forgotten that they were written for the immediate intimacy and delicacy of individual performance.
That is just the problem. Baroque orchestras were in small scale because the instruments were supposed to play in chambers of the royalties, nobilities, and aristocratic small rooms. It is a complete disaster play baroque music with modern instruments and using the mahlerian-scale orchestra. The same thing goes to play romantic, modern, and contemporary music using baroque musical instruments.
do people really try to play bach with a full orchestra--even on the scale typically reserved for late mozart or early beethoven? Do you know of any recordings? I'd be curious to hear what it sounds like.
@@Admiralmeriweather Many examples are available. Try Glenn Gould playing Bach's "Piano" concertos. Personally, I hate them because Bach musical lines must have clarity. If the orchestra is bigger than the two instruments for part the musical lines intermixture badly. I do not recomend this type of listening. Baroque music is intimacy, even for a Vilvadi-ish approach.
@@millennial8441 The Beatles used Harpsichords, Recorders, and Sitars in their music, the revival instruments (harpsichord) for works composed for Wanda Landowska (harpsichord concerto) by then contemporary music, the Theme for the TV show Taxi opened with a solo on the recorder would be exceptions to the list...
@@millennial8441 Of the many examples one needs go no further than KUSC radio online. Harpsichord Suites pieces by J S Bach or G F Handel (the scores of Bach have the German or French word for harpsichord) are invariably are called Keyboard Suites, Scarlatti Sonatas (more often than not, it's Guitar transcriptions played) likewise "Keyboard Sonatas," works by F J Haydn all performed on . Any Yehudi Menuhin performances of the Brandenburg Concertos on record. Many of Mozart's works and Beethoven on non-Period instruments with modern violin strings, valve Horns. Mozart, Haydn, and Beethoven also played the Clavichord. Haydn purchased a 5 1/2 octave Harpsichord from Shudi in 1775; he prescribes harpsichord for his solo keyboard sonatas as late as his E minor Sonata (H. XVI: 34) first published in 1784. In letters from March and April of 1789 he refers to his C Major “Clavier” Sonata (“keyboard” sonata-a generic designation) and he includes a middle movement with the title “Adagio per Clavicembalo o Piano-Forte” (“Adagio for Harpsichord or Pianoforte”), however by that vintage Clavier had lost its generic definition (which included organ), and acquired in some localities a meaning as a synonym for clavichord. Beethoven had left instructions that his nephew's clavichord should be tuned in 1821. In Cecil Forsythe's Orchestration published before the First World War, besides references to Gustav Von Holst's works for Sarrusophones, the book also noted that Haydn did not use hand stopped notes in the Natural Horns, that Mozart used hand stopped notes (changes the timbre) in the solo parts, and Beethoven used hand stopped notes in the Tuttis as well as the solos. Richard Wagner in one of his major works used both valve and natural horns. Mendelssohn in the Midsummer's Night Dream wrote of the "Serpent" (Bass of the Cornett family). Even in large orchestral works, instrument substitutions continue. F valve Trumpets are invariably not used in Strauss (as indicated in the score) Also Sprach Zarathustra
The first steel E string appeared around 1910, but didn't gain prominence until the Second World War when sheep gut became scarce. From the 1880s until the development of steel strings, silk strings were used as an alternative to gut, but usually only in the case of an emergency. How many orchestras use gut strings for works composed before 1910, or for that matter works written prior to 1941? The main reason besides economics, or rather the Modern Symphony consists of compromised Orchestral instruments most used as substitutions (or in the case of French music with Saxophone parts, the exception is Ravel's Bolero, the instruments are simply omitted) with the expectation to play works from all eras to an audience that grew up with these instruments, and not knowing better or the timbre's the Great Master's originally had in mind when composed.
I was at this concert. Traveled all the way from London just to see them and it was worth every penny. The ensemble is incredible and Shunske Sato is just sublime.
Funny story I sat next to the cellist’s husband.
how wonderful!
You sir are a man of culture indeed.
My Parents immigrated from Germany post WW2 after Dad was offered a job with the US Air Force.
I and Sis visited Leipzig. Germany with Mom when Sis and I were in our teens and visited church there where Bach was Organist .and Sis and I met our Grandparents for the very 1st time! This wonderful music brings all that back.....Have started listening to Bach every Sunday ( at least)! !
I come back to this video very frequently. They do an amazing job on this fantastic piece. Bach is immortal!
I listened to this pieace thousands of times since I was 5 and never heard such an interpretation. That third movement was orgasmic especially the violin!
An amazing chemistry between Black and Soto, the perfect match for this beautiful Bach composition, never get tired of listening to it!
That is not what I hear, I hear two drasticly different ideas on how Bach should be played, the hoboist plays the beautiful melodies naturally while the violinist, while very good and talented, seems to place Bach in the wrong time period.
my life would be pointless and depressing without bach thank God for his existence
I can’t get enough of this piece. I love it.
Jose's Garage, it is unlogic to thank God. It makes more sense to thank the great composers parents and the kind of "work" they did back in 1684!
geir øyvind eskeland Jesus/God was the reason for this Bach’s success even Bach himself said it “all glory to God” and he wrote it after all of his pieces. Bach was the most humble person to ever exists he even asked to be buried in an unmarked grave because he wanted all of the glory to go to God. this is the reason Bach is the person I look up to the most as inspiration not just because of his God gifted talent but his personality and his humbleness. This is all factual as far as the the quotes I mentioned
מלבד הגאון(באך),
מגיעה הערכה לצוות
הנגנים/יות,על הביצוע הנהדר/מושלם!!!
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Bravo indeed!
Thanks a lot for all your joy performing this beautiful piece by Master Bach!
Bach is alive. Exquisitely performed, I got chills.
I’d get chills too if Bach were still alive lol.
I got warmth within my heart
This performance made me think the same thing: Bach is alive! Because his music was not forgotten
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Bach's music for moments of reflection and light in a world of darkness.
One of the greatest from Herr Bach's immense output. Amazing group of musicians!!!
Wonderful.
Both soloists play with such understanding and delightful nuance. And impeccable tempi throughout - neither too slow nor too fast.
Many, many thanks to everyone.
ABSOLUTELY!
I'm crying as usual with you, NBS. Thanks from the bottom of my heart, you are the best ever.
Nothing more enchanting than the sound of an oboe, even more so in its period version. Just a lilting, beautiful composition.
0:08 Allegro
5:31 Adagio
10:10 Allegro
Any chance to get these in the description so that the video gets sectioned automatically?
I would be nice
Very nice, but I think second movement was too fast.
Pp
Final allegro is a miracle. Such a genius composition and performance. 🙏
The whole work though, it's flawless.
I simply don't know how to express my love for this music and this ensemble. Thank you so much for this delight.
Wonderful interplay between soloists and orchestra. It’s as if they are improvising , and vocalizing , which to me is the mark of a terrific performance.
The man was such a genius and he had a signature style. A very lovely piece played magnificently.
Finding this channel is the best thing that's happened to me this week.
Me too.
AGAIN! BACH! You bring to me such joy in listening to your music, oh how my soul rejoices in what God my Savior has placed in the mind of His servant to give to all the world. Thank you God, Thank you Bach, thank you Netherland Back Society, all the musicians and everyone who makes this possible.
Yes! Thank you Lord for Bach!
Phenomenal. Maestro Sato has rapidly become one of my favorite baroque violinists.
A beautiful piece. The oboe has body and prominence and carries a great sound in this masterful piece!
Thank you all!!
I ask, am not a musician, but appreciate Bach, play this repeatedly as enjoy it immensely, was Bach thinking of a field or meadow that was filled with the vocalizations of birds?
It is the "worst" baroque wood wind instrument if one wants balance and mixture. That's the reason why British baroque composers called the baroque oboe "the naughty boy" because its prominent sound color is hard to beat down. And they preferred the alto recorder instead because it blends pretty well.
@@donnagoring250 That's what I think too!
Can I just say that I get joy from the joy of the performers?
I love Bach and I love this Concert , I never get tired of that sounds !!! ❤️❤️❤️
Today I stod above the Neckar Valley in the sunshine and listened to Bach with my headphones on. It was a moment of perfection.
I have always loved the sound of oboe, and I didn't know the existence of this concert. Beutiful! There are not enough words to praise J.S.Bach.
Such a beautiful version, so many people seem to let the tempo run away, this is just perfect ! Thanks you
This piece by Bach, more than any other, sticks with me. It has a welcome place in my brain
All of these glorious works are performed with the greatest respect and utter freshness.
Thank you for making these available!! Beautiful beyond words.
Wonderful ensemble playing as well as vibrant musical dialogue between the soloists. It is marvelous to see such committed music-making in Bach.
Nothing new to anyone here, but these are all - i think without exception - the finest representations of Bach I've ever found.
I like gentle notes of Baroque oboe.
It's so peaceful and touching some sort of kindness.
You have made "tremoli" in my skin!! Outstanding performance. Unser Vater JS Bach for ever!!
Bach shows us a glimpse of the other world.
Wonderful music of course. But also: These musicians play it so exquisitely that you quite simply get happy!! ❤
Best performance I’ve ever heard of this iconic baroque masterpiece! Bravo Bach! Bravo NBS! Thanks for uploading. ❤️🎼🎻🖊🎵🎶👏🇮🇪☘️🥇🏅🎖
This is so incredibly beautiful. Beautiful music and so well played. I love the tempi. I do miss the interviews.
There is an interview with Emma Black on youtube - with Jeff Segal. It includes some interesting conversation about this particular performance.
Violine and oboe in this piece are the perfect representation of woman and man. Very different but perfectly complementing each other.
Beautiful, you can see the passion in the musicians, that feeling of perform Bach music that runs through their body. Bach is amazing.
saw the 2 soloists in Sydney earlier this year, they were absolutely fantastic.
how good is that piece when interpreted with such respect of the style and line!
QUOI DE NOUVEAU ! BACH! !MUSIQUE TOTALEMENT INTEMPORELLE ! QUI FAIT VIBRER À DONNER DES FRISSONS
MAGISTRALEMENT INTERPRÉTÉE !
SOYEZ EN TOUS ! INFINIMENT REMERCIÉS ! ON SE SENT IMMÉDIATEMENT EN VOUS ÉCOUTANT RELIGIEUSEMENT MEILLEURS ! ET L ON.VOUDRAIT QUE JAMAIS CETTE PARTITION SI BIEN INTERPETREE NE S ARRÊTE ! ENCORE # MERCI.# QUOIQUE EN L OCCURRENCE CE MOT ME SEMBLE BIEN FAIBLE ! AVEC MES PROFONDS RESPECTS POUR CE SUBLISSIME MOMENT.
The dialogue of the instrument is sublime. This piece and these world class musicians gives me the chills.
Sublime y Orgánico Concierto. Todos Magistrales. El Oboe Excelso, Emma Black
es una Virtuosa. El Violín y la Dirección Geniales, Maestro SATO GRACIAS DESDE
MÉXICO.
This interpretation is a dream... you can taste every note... fantastic
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Absolutely spectacular performance!
"lovely" was what came to my mind
Gracias por Bach, grande entre los grandes! Saludos desde Misiones, Argentina
Music perfection! My favorite composer played excellently. Great job!
ESPECTACULARMENTE HERMOSO TODA MI ADMIRACION PARA EL CONCIERTO Bach- concerto for Oboe and Violin in C Minor BWV 1060r- Bach and Sato Netherlands Bach Society
Once again, consummate musicianship combined with Bach's genius. Dank je wel uit Wenen, Scott
Just listened to this at the ABO. Amazing listening to it live!
As a modern oboist who tried playing the baroque oboe for two years(without much success), bravo to the oboe solist!
Wow. How was your experience? Is it hard? What is the difference between Baroque oboe and modern oboe? Would you enlighten me?
@@defner.9251 You need a lot of patience, no playing with force, and each note has to be constructed as you go along. I've been playing Baroque oboe for about 10 years and I am finally getting the hang of it!
I simply cried from the emotions your interpretation transmitted to my heart. Thank you, Bach, thank you talented musicians!
Wunderschöne Aufführung dieses kompakten und perfekt komponierten Doppelkonzerts im gut phrasierten Tempo mit herrlichem Ton der genialen Solobarockoboe und seidigem Ton der ebenso genialen Solovioline sowie gut harmonisierten und perfekt vereinigten Tönen anderer historischen Instrumente. Alles ist wunderbar!
Bis auf deinen Kommentar, den du aus deiner üblichen Mélange an Phrasen zusammendrischst ...
@@ulrichreifenrath2869 Alles gehört zu meinem persönlichen Geschmack.
@@notaire2 Man merkt's. Ewig die gleiche Platte - und das trotz der unglaublichen Vielfalt an Musik und der Qualität der Interpretationen auf dieser Plattform. Aber gut, es gibt diejenigen, die alles verklären und mit süßen Honig verbrämen - es wird dann halt bloß von Mal zu Mal klebriger.
@@ulrichreifenrath2869 Gut ist immer gut, wenn auch immer gleich.
That music was my motivation to be a classical connoisseur, a long time ago. It opened my eyes to perfection. Thanks my God
Gorgeous performance! As a violinist myself, I can tell you that playing the slow movement of this concerto is truly a religious experience! As Bach himself said, Soli Deo gloria!
Period instruments and a flawless performance. Oboe is hard enough on modern instrument. Playing on a period instrument? Wow. Spectacular. And the rest of the ensemble. Excellent.
This is truly the most marvelous version of this master piece. Its really alive as the human soul should be. Chilling...
Incredible. Wonderful. My face is sore from smiling. Thankyou so much for sharing this sublime music with us!
The music of Bach, played on authentic period instruments, is the sweetest sound this side of Heaven. :-)
fantastic Oboe sound....amazing!!!
What a jewel! One of Bach's most underrated creations.
First heard a duet piano rendition of this piece, both versions are beautiful. But this takes the cake. Thank you Bach.
Wonderfull Group ...Bach is one of my favorite ...probably the most ...He is fantastic and very modern ...SWINGING BACH !!
I’ve come back to this exquisite recording many times this year. What wonderful playing!!!
The same for me!
Outstanding performance! Bravi! Bravissimi!
Bach's melody attracts my attention and the performance of NBS fills my heart ❤...
Superb in every way...the Gold Standard Performance! Bravo!
Another reconstruction, and this one I recognize, from some chembalo consert. As long as the reconstructions are this good, I have no objections. It is still 100% Bach. So happy to have the opportunity to listen to this! I have newly found Netherlands Bach Society, and I enyoy every minute.
>Another reconstruction, and this one I recognize, from some chembalo consert. Yes, here it is --> th-cam.com/video/uIpt-9Crhy0/w-d-xo.html, th-cam.com/video/enaoi8a5f-Y/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/nOylK6aDLqA/w-d-xo.html.
What a beautiful peformance of this gorgeous masterwork. Particularly loved the oboe sound and amazing playing by Emma.
Qué tienen estas piezas que no me canso de escucharlas. Tengo 52 años y las conozco desde niño y nunca me han dejado de gustar y ahora con el desarrollo de nuevas fuentes de alta fidelidad se escuchan como nunca antes. Gracias a toda esa buena gente que interviene para que todos las podamos disfrutar.
Bach raakt je hart.Prachtige uitvoering.
When I scroll through all of the comments… I couldn’t agree more, with all of them…such beautiful and meaningful statements on Bach’s musical out pouring…My neck tingles with goose pimples when reading your comments and listening to his music...Harvey Perkoff
Frangly, a remarkable innovation/adaption. Quite colourful, dynamic, energetic. A version to be kept in my mind.
Потрясающе!!! Великолепное исполнение, отличное качество звука! Низкий поклон Вам за открытый доступ к этой восхитительной коллекции записей!
Wonderful musicians ! Thanks God for Bach and for this musicians
Bach is my favourite composer.
My God Thank you very much for Bach's life, without Him nothing would have made sense 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Absolutely perfect tempos and always great clarity in the texture, this channel is doing an incredibly good job.
Bach is Bach such God is God.
So beautiful , so amazing and so deep. I enjoyed so much. Bravo....
The pizzicato of the double bass in the 2nd movement is very interesting: it gives a gentle but strong attack to the sound, and it makes the double bass rise in the blend of all the instruments
Interpretazione nuova e sublime ❤❤❤❤❤❤😂🎉🎉🎉Giuseppe Perego Monza 16.2.1962 Grazie
Muy bello, seguir soñando con Bach, un abrazo de MZA.Argentina.
I've been waiting for some time to listen BWV 1060 from Netherlands Bach Society
Netherlands Bach Society thank you very much! Your performances are excellent! All Bach is the best
WOW! What an incredible performance. The oboists technique is impeccable even on this very limited instrument. Gorgeous! Thank you for brightening our days.
Mesmerizing and beautiful in antiquity.. Thank You for making it real. Superb crafting and instrumentation.
Hello from Pennsylvania. This is a superb rendition of a Bach work which is beyond sublime. Just breathtaking. Thank you so very much.
I suppose that the Japanese violinist is supposed to be the star, but in my opinion the oboist is the big hit by far in this performance. What a fine job she does!! Thanks specifically to her!!! Stay well everyone. CAS.
What a polyphony ! wonderful instruments and playing! Thank you for sharing
I think it is when you have several melodies being played simultaneously.
@@donnafalls6378 lol
Last allegro was outstanding.
Another brilliant performance from Emma! Congratulations!
A relatively soft-edged version that brings out the detail and delicacy of Bach's writing. Gives a different emphasis to more sharply-pointed versions; both can be enjoyed on their own merits. Amazing to think that up to 100 years ago this work was only known in its clavier arrangement and that intelligent musicologists managed to trace it back to deduce the lost original and identify the combination of instruments used (after an initial attempt with two violins).
It's a hypothetical reconstruction. In the 1874 preface to the Bach Gesellschaft edition of the concerto for two harpsichords, Wilhelm Rust had suggested that the original version of the concerto would have been for two violins. Max Schneider's reconstruction as a concerto for two violins in D minor in 1920. I am inclined to agree as the F Major Harpsichord Concerto (with obbligato Records) was originally the 4th Violin Concerto in G major. Concerto in C minor, BWV 1062 for two harpsichords is a transcription of the "Double" Concerto for 2 violins n D minor, BWV 1043, which was written circa 1730, about the same time as the arrangement.
In 1886 Woldemar Voigt wrote that the original instrument for the part of the second harpsichord was more likely an oboe, and that the original of the concerto could almost certainly be identified with a lost concerto for oboe and violin mentioned in a 1764 Breitkopf catalogue. On the other hand, the lost concerto might have been a complete (and lost manuscript) earlier concerto which became the basis of the opening Sinfonia of the cantata Geist und Seele wird verwirret, (BWV 35, a Cantata for Alto Voice, Organ obbligato, 2 oboes and English Horn ancestor (Taille), and strings) which became the basis of the Harpsichord (and obbligato Oboe) Concerto in D minor, BWV 1059 (fragment) which exists only in 9 bars.
Musicologists (20th century) are under the Publish or Perish pressures (the 3 "P's" of academia), there's too much speculation. Most of the so-called Bach Violin concertos are reconstructions of Harpsichord Concertos. Only the Violin Concerto in A minor (Bach), the Violin Concerto in E major (Bach), and the Concerto for Two Violins (Bach) are from J S Bach's hand. The 8 other violin concertos for one or more violins (and other obbligato instruments) are hypothetical reconstructions in other words "Guess Works." Musicologists aren't always intelligent, witness the recent claim that Bach's wife wrote the solo string sonatas/partitas was based on a modern translation of the French word that meant copied (18th meaning) to 20th Century "written." All the musicologist had to do was to check was a 18th century dictionary...
@@Renshen1957 However Tovey and others pointed out various reasons why this particular concerto looks more likely to be violin and oboe than two violins. It certainly lies very happily for this combination. The two violins idea is equally hypothetical, but it certainly seems most likely that this was an arrangement for clavier and not specially written for it.
@@iankemp1131 There's no question that the arrangement was for a harpsichord, however, how many solos concertos did J S Bach write for Oboe or Oboe da Amore? Zero. J S Bach did arrange a number of Cantata Sinfonias with an obbligato organ part. The Harpsichord Concerto in D minor, BWV 1052 originates from Two movements of the cantata, Wir müssen durch viel Trübsal, BWV 146 the Sinfonia and the first movement.
A similar Obbligato Organ "concerto" are found for movements of his cantatas Gott soll allein mein Herze haben, BWV 169, and Ich geh und suche mit Verlangen, BWV 49an instrumental concerto. Then there's the Sinfonia to Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir, BWV 29, in D major scored for obbligato organ, oboes, trumpets and strings, 1731, which is an adaptation of the E major Partita for Solo Violin's Prelude, and again the Organ part is transcribed downward one tone, for two reasons, J S Bach wrote for the Organ as a transposing instrument (Chorton pitch) and the top note being c''' (which played d''') as that was the limit of the organ's keyboard compass.
@@Renshen1957 Well, just because Bach wrote no other solo concertos for oboe doesn't mean he didn't write one! He used a variety of different combinations in other concertos, some unique. Your argument would imply that Mozart didn't write a clarinet concerto and that Beethoven, Mendelssohn and Brahms (etc) didn't write violin concertos. Plus, some would suggest that BWV 1053 was actually originally written for oboe, though that seems more speculative.
@@iankemp1131 There's no question that J S Bach wrote for the Oboe, Oboe d' Amore, Oboe da Caccio, in his Cantatas. The middle movement of the Concerto, sources from Bach's Cantata Ich steh mit einem Fuß im Grabe, BWV 156 with the Oboe solo scored for the solo line, in F major. In a practice to pay homage to another composer (of which CPE Bach references in the Nekrolog for his father in 1753) was the practice of quotation of a melody from another composers. The melody closely resembles the opening 2 1/2 measures of J S Bach's good friend (and Godfather to his son CPE Bach ) G P Telemann's Flute Concerto in G major (TWV 51:G2) in that the soloist plays essentially identical notes for the first two-and-a-half with the concerto being in the relative major of Ab. (Some have noticed a shorter quotation of Telemann for the opening of Bach's Goldberg variations. The Harpsichord concerto outer movements are possibly sourced from another "lost" concerto for violin in G minor according to one musicologist, again supposition. Be that as it may, the "reconstruction" has an Oboe as the solo instrument.
J S Bach "cut and pasted" a number of works, such as the E minor Partita sources two movements from The sixth sonata in G Major for obbligato harpsichord and violin, BWV 1019: the Corrente as a harpsichord solo in e minor; and the Tempo di gavotta as a duo for violin and harpsichord, however that doesn't infer the entire E minor Partita was composed for Violin and obbligato Harpsichord. The 6th Sonata exists in three different versions, and if I had time, I could cite how many variants of the French Suites, the Well Tempered Clavier Parts 1 and 2 (early and later revised editions). J S Bach had a thing about sets of six, Six being the Biblical number of man, falling short of perfection (the number 7). One thing is for sure, J S Bach did not leave a set of 6 Oboe concertos, the closest we get is the F major Brandenburg for a concerto with the Oboe as solo instruments shared with three other solo instruments.
One of the common practices of "Pfeifers" and similarly continues into the present, Flute (and Recorder) Players doubled on the Oboe. Although better known as one of the premier Flute players and composers, J J Quantz started his career as an Oboist, and switched to the Transverse Flute exclusively during his illustrious career with Frederick the Great.