for chest hypertrophy…it is. if it hurts your shoulder then you need to either work on Shoulder stability or shoulder mobility, then you can try from there
Well your upper chest will benefit more from the stretch that you get from going wider than adding more weight. If you’re training for strength though his advice is great
DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM. Wider is better because it puts the pec muscles in a more stretched positon. And that rom bull crap hes talking about doesnt matter in the top half bc that is the contracted position which shouldnt be given as much emphasis as the stretched position.
Using wider grip with the elbows flared actually helped a lot with my shoulder pain. I tried going shorter grip keeping the elbows lined and that only made it worse. People have different anatomies and everyone should find out the form that makes them more comfortable
The difference in anatomy is not a significant factor. A wide grip remains a wide grip, regardless of your individual anatomy. If you are using a wide grip to compensate for shoulder pain, it means that either you are not effectively targeting your chest, and you should consult a medical professional to address your shoulder issues.
Man, I’ve been follow a number of fitness/bodybuilding TH-camrs, and the best one so far is from my own countrymen. Terima kasih, Jordan. You helped me, boss.
That angle of exercises that need to be considered are one of the best things I learnt as a trainer. Amazing how many people can't recognise something ad simple as alignment
Remeber fellas, keeping ur hands wide can give u a much deeper stretch, do the exercise the way you feel comfortable and produce most power (without cheating ofc)
IT IS NOT DANGEROUS FOR SHOULDERS - unless u already have a shoulder condition DO NOT avoid a wide stretched position. It is a proven fact that a position like that actually HELPS the shoulder joint.
not claiming to be an expert, or educated on this at all but ive always found that having a slightly wider grip and flaring my elbows a bit on the incline felt great on my chest, and always left my pecs feeling sore with no shoulder pain. and having a more narrow grip on flat helped reduce shoulder pain
I love the incline barbell press. I personally use the smith machine so I can overload my upper/middle chest while guaranteeing perpendicular bar. I'll dumbell flat bench after to make sure I address muscle imbalances and stabilization of the weight that a smith machine might mask.
if you’re just wanting to train chest, you only need a small range of motion because the process of locking out your elbows involves your triceps, you don’t need to do that part. so, in my opinion, it’s better to go wider and get your pec stretched and thus reduce the ROM, since the increased ROM that a closer grip provides is effectively just more tricep work
anybody who gets “shoulder pain” from wider grip, doesn’t train shoulder stability and their rotator cuffs, also went from standard grip straight too wide grip, gotta taper the grip wider over a period of time
Grip distance is different for everyone. Just use what you’re comfortable with. Me personally with closer grip I can’t feel it in my chest at all, with wide grip it’s all chest for me.
Not all of us have tiny wingspans like this guy. Mine is about 6' 6" Going wider is much better on my shoulders and elbows. We're all built differently. What works for short people don't work the same for tall people.
Nothing wrong with flaring the elbows out more with a wider grip placement. It places more stretch on the pecs, and uses less of the triceps. As long as you have healthy shoulders, retract the scapula, and use controlled form in the moderate to high rep range, a flared and l wide grip can be great for variation in your chest training.
in the industry myself, and for a stock you can totally use the onion peels themselves. Just avoid the 'wiry' bits at the end of the root end before you peel it
Wider grip helps me isolate my pecs better, feel it in my chest better, and I've never had problems with my shoulders, as I warm them up properly, and my structure allows for the movement with a wide grip pretty easily. This is not generalizable advice for everyone
Pretty basic technique but for gains you need to be using lats and chest more than delts and shoulders remember to push from your mid chest to above your eyes, specific technique for you on incline bench press is key to results as the motion is what matters most to activate your lats and chest
The wider you hand the further out your chest you will work the closer your hands the will work closer to the center of your chest so it’s always good to keep a balance of all ranges across the bar ! You want a more defined line and center of your chest to swole keep hands closer also if our lifting bench and your shoulders begin to hurt that means there lacking and you need t develop your shoulders more before going up to that weight for bench same goes for any other muscle because your only as strong as your weakest link hope this helps some one
When i pressed wider there was no improvement atall, but one day a powerlifter told not to grip that wide, from that day my press weight is increasing and chest muscle also strengthing.
i absolutely loved the high highs, but i’m glad you didn’t shy away from critiquing some parts; i honestly felt like i was going insane from watching people eat up the lows so eagerly out of curiosity-i’m currently working on outlining a season 2 rewrite, and i was wondering if you had any specific changes you would want to make to the story/chars (besides runtime). i think i’ve found ways to more satisfactorily develop characters like cait, heimer, vi, and viktor, but i’ve been struggling to figure out how to make ww/isha/the filler members of the strike team a bit less like plot devices/fodder and more like their own characters. if not, all good! love your content, and love milk ❤
Not exactly, no position is inherently dangerous, you just lack mobility/flexibility because you're not used to it. Grip width is also entirely dependent on comfortability. Different people feels a better chest pump/stretch at various width.
Ditch the Barbell and do Dumbbell Incline Press- it’s way better for range of motion and unless you can rep 100lb for 20reps with flawless technique, then there’s room to grow.
Just use dumbbells for incline. Control and stretch is humongous and rather humbling if done in correct tempo. Bar incline is ok but dont waste energy with ok
before this i always thought that wider grip is better for chest exercise. but actually it is not. you are right, doing bench press with wider grip will hurt your shoulder joints. thank you for sharing
I NEEDED TO HEAR THIS! always thought wider is better
for chest hypertrophy…it is. if it hurts your shoulder then you need to either work on Shoulder stability or shoulder mobility, then you can try from there
Well your upper chest will benefit more from the stretch that you get from going wider than adding more weight. If you’re training for strength though his advice is great
Just got all the way out then so your range of motion is 1 inch
might as well just spread you gands like wings and just lay there 😀@@Jamescanon-ek6ho
DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM. Wider is better because it puts the pec muscles in a more stretched positon. And that rom bull crap hes talking about doesnt matter in the top half bc that is the contracted position which shouldnt be given as much emphasis as the stretched position.
This is EXACTLY what I needed to correct my form. Thank you 🙏🏻
Using wider grip with the elbows flared actually helped a lot with my shoulder pain. I tried going shorter grip keeping the elbows lined and that only made it worse. People have different anatomies and everyone should find out the form that makes them more comfortable
You must be a long limbed man like myself
Same man, wide grip with elbows flared out helps limits my shoulder pain
The difference in anatomy is not a significant factor. A wide grip remains a wide grip, regardless of your individual anatomy. If you are using a wide grip to compensate for shoulder pain, it means that either you are not effectively targeting your chest, and you should consult a medical professional to address your shoulder issues.
Different anthropometry** and yes I agree
@@SergioMerino-s1bit’s anthropometry that he meant. And it matters a fuck ton lmao
Love the graphics bro, great verbal and visual communication
Man, I’ve been follow a number of fitness/bodybuilding TH-camrs, and the best one so far is from my own countrymen. Terima kasih, Jordan. You helped me, boss.
Terima kasih
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i love good, honest, and informational videos like these. Thank you for this.
Dude I needed this so much I cannot even discuss how bad my incline press has been
Thank you I always thought pushing it out was the way to go
Wider grip helped me better
Me as well.
Moving to a closer grip definitely changed my chest and alleviated much shoulder pain for me
I only watch to learn. Really. Educational purposes only. Honest.
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That angle of exercises that need to be considered are one of the best things I learnt as a trainer. Amazing how many people can't recognise something ad simple as alignment
Your content is so amazing and useful 🙌🏽
Your videos are indeed very useful
Remeber fellas, keeping ur hands wide can give u a much deeper stretch, do the exercise the way you feel comfortable and produce most power (without cheating ofc)
Excellent advice 👌
It would also help to keep your wrists straight,keep them in line with your forearm. That way you keep away a lot of stress from your wrist joints
Everyone is different, use what form works best for you. Wide grip is great for creating constant tension in a shorter range of motion.
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Good advice. I have some shoulder issues. Thanks.
I was confused with the grip. Now I know how wide it should be. Thanks
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Nice. These videos help improve my form daily ty
Finally a natural body with smart knowledge!
Genuinely helpful
IT IS NOT DANGEROUS FOR SHOULDERS - unless u already have a shoulder condition DO NOT avoid a wide stretched position. It is a proven fact that a position like that actually HELPS the shoulder joint.
EXACTLY. Plus the stretch is so much better.
If that were true why did my shoulders start to hurt?
@@panzerbanz7296because yours have bad stability?
Yea I was gonna say cause it feels better wide grip for me, when I have a regular grip my elbows click hella
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Great tips! Thanks!
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thanks mate! I'm starting with this exercise :D
Uncle Roger got SWOLLLL 😅💪
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Thank you man
not claiming to be an expert, or educated on this at all but ive always found that having a slightly wider grip and flaring my elbows a bit on the incline felt great on my chest, and always left my pecs feeling sore with no shoulder pain. and having a more narrow grip on flat helped reduce shoulder pain
I preferred wider grip for better chest contracts, medium grip just hit more on triceps, for me
This goes for push ups and squats also, Probably countless other exercises too. Technique can boost your strength if you know what your doing💯💪🏼🔥🔥🔥
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Thank you 😊
Thanks for the tip bro🤙
There is no middle chest why do i see this everywhere
Right!
Using a supinated grip has helped me target my upper chest much better.
I love the incline barbell press. I personally use the smith machine so I can overload my upper/middle chest while guaranteeing perpendicular bar. I'll dumbell flat bench after to make sure I address muscle imbalances and stabilization of the weight that a smith machine might mask.
if you’re just wanting to train chest, you only need a small range of motion because the process of locking out your elbows involves your triceps, you don’t need to do that part. so, in my opinion, it’s better to go wider and get your pec stretched and thus reduce the ROM, since the increased ROM that a closer grip provides is effectively just more tricep work
anybody who gets “shoulder pain” from wider grip, doesn’t train shoulder stability and their rotator cuffs, also went from standard grip straight too wide grip, gotta taper the grip wider over a period of time
Grip distance is different for everyone. Just use what you’re comfortable with. Me personally with closer grip I can’t feel it in my chest at all, with wide grip it’s all chest for me.
This video found me right when i was about to forget the incline press because of shoulder pain
Thank you Buff Uncle Roger
Beautiful and strong man😊
Stretch & do warmups & you can maintain a wide grip for deeper striations in your muscles
You have to realize that there are only two heads of the chest; there is no middle head; there are only the pectoralis major and minor...
I’ve been doing it the right way luckily❤
THANK YOU!!!
The way I click just for the thumbnail, a smart man.
"Stack the joints" - Jonni Shreve. Fist, wrist and elbow inline. This is a great tutorial
Not all of us have tiny wingspans like this guy. Mine is about 6' 6" Going wider is much better on my shoulders and elbows. We're all built differently. What works for short people don't work the same for tall people.
Grip depends a lot on arm length too, longer arms may find wider grip more comfortable
As long as you dont hurt your shoulders and get a deep reps.
Incline barbell press is my favorite movement at the moment
Nothing wrong with flaring the elbows out more with a wider grip placement. It places more stretch on the pecs, and uses less of the triceps. As long as you have healthy shoulders, retract the scapula, and use controlled form in the moderate to high rep range, a flared and l wide grip can be great for variation in your chest training.
Very very thankful to you brooo
Great explanation
in the industry myself, and for a stock you can totally use the onion peels themselves. Just avoid the 'wiry' bits at the end of the root end before you peel it
Wider grip helps me isolate my pecs better, feel it in my chest better, and I've never had problems with my shoulders, as I warm them up properly, and my structure allows for the movement with a wide grip pretty easily. This is not generalizable advice for everyone
Pretty basic technique but for gains you need to be using lats and chest more than delts and shoulders remember to push from your mid chest to above your eyes, specific technique for you on incline bench press is key to results as the motion is what matters most to activate your lats and chest
The wider you hand the further out your chest you will work the closer your hands the will work closer to the center of your chest so it’s always good to keep a balance of all ranges across the bar ! You want a more defined line and center of your chest to swole keep hands closer also if our lifting bench and your shoulders begin to hurt that means there lacking and you need t develop your shoulders more before going up to that weight for bench same goes for any other muscle because your only as strong as your weakest link hope this helps some one
In my opinion, it doesn't matter. Just make sure it rests on your chest for a second or two, then press.
Thanks bro pls make more shorts on mistake in exercise
You need to wide and close grip. If you don’t train both then you will be lacking. If you experience pain then you to do shoulder mobility work
This vid just saved my shoulders
Pretty much the first ring on the inside of the barbell is perfect hand placement
really depends on ur arm proportions, i feel chest better on a wider grip
I realized I have no idea what I’m doing during this exercise when I previously thought I did
Also choose better to bench on a wider pad
I always feel the burn where the chest meets the shoulder
Thank you
Uncle roger is diversifying
it varies depending on your proportions, but yh I remember switching to a narrower grip definitely helped lifting through shoulder pain
When i pressed wider there was no improvement atall, but one day a powerlifter told not to grip that wide, from that day my press weight is increasing and chest muscle also strengthing.
Also trains the lower chest, just as much as flat bench believe it or not!
(Source: Jeff Nippard)
I was doing it wide! Now I'll change!
Ty ❤
thanks Jordan,, try keeping those axila hairs this time.
Dude who did the roto on that chest? Good stuff. Also good wormout advise lol
It also depends on your height or better said your arm length. You can grip too close when you have longs arms, it will feel very uncomfortable
i absolutely loved the high highs, but i’m glad you didn’t shy away from critiquing some parts; i honestly felt like i was going insane from watching people eat up the lows so eagerly
out of curiosity-i’m currently working on outlining a season 2 rewrite, and i was wondering if you had any specific changes you would want to make to the story/chars (besides runtime). i think i’ve found ways to more satisfactorily develop characters like cait, heimer, vi, and viktor, but i’ve been struggling to figure out how to make ww/isha/the filler members of the strike team a bit less like plot devices/fodder and more like their own characters.
if not, all good! love your content, and love milk ❤
…Grows bigger tricep
Not exactly, no position is inherently dangerous, you just lack mobility/flexibility because you're not used to it. Grip width is also entirely dependent on comfortability. Different people feels a better chest pump/stretch at various width.
Love the videos! Wondering if you can please explain how this width is different from close-grip tricep pressing?
Good advice
How I got my upper chest to grow is to lower the incline of the bench to half of what it's at now.
Only thing that hurts my shoulder is going too heavy without slow reps
Ditch the Barbell and do Dumbbell Incline Press- it’s way better for range of motion and unless you can rep 100lb for 20reps with flawless technique, then there’s room to grow.
Great video.
Great video ❤
Dude has a thick gnarly accent
Good stuff bro 👍🏻
Just use dumbbells for incline. Control and stretch is humongous and rather humbling if done in correct tempo. Bar incline is ok but dont waste energy with ok
before this i always thought that wider grip is better for chest exercise. but actually it is not. you are right, doing bench press with wider grip will hurt your shoulder joints. thank you for sharing
Why must i feel a stronger chest contraction going wider than shoulder width
What about activating the quads? Or the hamstrings.. maybe even the calf’s.. ever think about doing that some day?