I feel so bad for the parents of Leslie Ann Downy, they had to hear the horrible tape and identify the body of their little girl. As a parent, I couldn't imagine the hell they went through.
I've read the transcript of Leslie Ann Downey's torture and s3xual abuse, and it is truly heartbreaking. The christmas song "The Little Drummer Boy" sung by The Ray Conniff Singers was playing in the background (the song was mentioned in the transcript, as was the other christmas song that was played but i don't remember which song it was). It was one of my favourite versions of the song when i was a kid, but at the time i had no idea of the tragedies that occurred. Now, i find it hard to listen to without thinking of what pure hell Leslie endured. What these two despicable, vile, and worthless wastes of oxygen did to the 5 children is disgusting, horrendous and atrocious. They should have gotten worse beatings by other prisoners than what they'd got. I hope the 5 children are resting peacefully, even Keith Bennett, whose body was never found. Im sure his mother is with him now, holding him in her arms.
When it comes to being a parent, few things are as overrated as biology. This man is clearly the poor girl's parent, no matter if he has donated genes or not.
@@carmellewis2466 I grew up in Liverpool - I was 14 at the time and it was absolutely horrifying. We immigrated to Canada in 1966 so we didn’t hear much after that. But I still remember the horror of those times.
In cases like this the police should be given the power to get that information through any means necessary I would of broke every bone in there body's to find out where kieth was buried
We were supposed to go swimming with a friend but when we got to her house, there were two police cars outside of her door and police going in and out of the house. Someone came out and said that Susan couldn’t come swimming because her brother was lost. God bless him, Kieth is still lost, somewhere up there on the Moors. No kid was allowed out on their own for years after that. Those monsters stole lives and the childhoods of so many. May they rot in Hell.
@@HopelessSinner Keith’s sister is Susan Johnson. Why are you contradicting me. I just told you that Susan was our friend. Susan’s mum was Winnie Johnson. Winnie died a while ago now. Don’t call me a liar. There’s always one fool …
I remember seeing a documentary with an interview with Ann West, Lesley Ann's mother, not long before she died of cancer. That poor woman was tormented for the rest of her life after identifying her child's partly decomposed body (part of her had been in a patch of peat so had been stained but preserved, part was skeletal) and hearing that tape of her pleading for her Mummy.
I can remember the people campaigning to get Myra out of prison. I was disgusted with them. She was a cold blooded murderer who was just as guilty as Brady.
@dougaldouglas8842 she was worse than Ian....she got the children for him!!! She asked by the mother of one of the children..she said no!! She was caught out through the tapes...She still didn't say anything to the police...laughed when they were called the Moor murders...saying we ( I) didn't kill Any moors..
What is sickening is that the UK justice system let her order from Argos, have a great life inside, and do an art degree and there was a picture in the paper of the mayor shaking her hand with them both smiling! If someone had played the mayor the tapes of her sodomizing the kids and laughing and then told him she had done that to his own children, I doubt he would have shown up. Disgusting.
Such is British Justice: All that twaddle about "reforming" vile people like these....yet nothing about punishment...... As for people like "Lord" Longford....a classic example of an archaic-misguided class structure...an abuse of a system that is failing us by the day. No consideration for their victims families. Quite the opposite. Makes me vomit...and desperately ashamed to be British.
They do all that to make sure prisoners behave; without incentives prisoners would be a nightmare for the prison staff . You may not like it but that's the facts
Also they have to work for the cash they spend and must save up over time . They don't get to order just anything either. There are limits. Shall we bring back the Victorian era treadmill or do you just want death penalty???
@@outlawJosieFoxI think if it happened to your own kids, you wouldn’t be so interested in ‘’treating them well so they behave’’. A secured prison with secure walls and doors shouldn’t have the problem you are so worried about of keeping them in line. That is typical weak UK style. If she had committed that crime in the US I would have loved to have seen what would have happened to her. Definitely not Argos and TV 🙄 but we get it, you are a Myra Hindley fan and care about her wellbeing 🙄🙄🙄🙄🤐
Entitled to NOTHING IMO! Work for it or not! To commit the crimes that she was involved in she should have zero anything! Locked up and suffer just like those innocent little children! Pitiful piece of garbage 😡
People still blame him and say he was more involved. I don’t believe so. I haven’t seen or heard anything remotely convincing (if someone has something, do share). I think he did the right thing for the sake of it. Unfortunately, he was never properly thanked. Instead he lived out his entire life under a cloud of suspicion and blame for the murders. It’s terribly unfair. I hope he found peace and assurance that he did the right thing.
My heart goes out to Keith's family. I have walked on the moors many times in my life and you can't help but think of that poor little soul while you're up there. I wish he would be found soon, was so sad to hear of his mother, Winnie, passing away having never had the chance to lay her son to rest. I hope his brother, Alan, is able to see him laid to rest in his lifetime. God bless Keith and his family.
She was a piece of work. Hard as nails - no compassion whatsoever. She wrote to Brady after their incarceration, until she realised it didn’t do her any favours. Then she spent several years pulling the wool over the eyes of bleeding-heart liberal Lord Longford. After she had served many years in jail, a visitor asked her how she could abduct a 10 year old child (Lesley), to which Hindley replied “Well she shouldn’t have been out so late”. She referred to the mother of one of her victims as “a hypocritical old bag” who needed “a brain implant”. I was very relieved when Hindley died in prison; I couldn’t bear the thought that she might somehow wangle her freedom. After her death, the prison authorities had difficulty finding a local firm of undertakers who would handle the funeral; nobody wanted anything to do with the evil monster.
Great documentary. I've seen dozens of documentaries on the Moors Murders, but just when you think Brady and Hindley couldn't be any more evil, you hear lots of new details in this film about how they caused extra suffering for the parents, like refusing to confirm that it was them on the tape so that the police were forced to play it to Lesley Anne Downey's parents. And the fact that Brady and Hindley swapped letters detailing sick fantasies of what they wanted to do to other children for YEARS after they were in prison. And Hindley's letters to the children's parents, full of lies and self serving deceit.
I must say I’ve seen several documentaries on Ian & Myra & The Moore’s Murders but this docu-series was very well put together with every detail. My 💔 for Kieth Bennett’s family:( Poor Winnie went to her grave after a lifetime of searching for her son and now his brother has to take up the task:( All of the victims remaining families have my deepest & sincerest condolences.. They’re in my 🙏🏽
Wasn't there also a letter that Ian Brady wrote saying it gave the location of the body only for that to be untrue and just another way for him to torture the family? How could someone be that evil?
A nun, prison guard, a lord and a whole series of blunders by the police.... couldn't make it up if you tried...not long after came Jimmy savile and his lord ladies and gentlemen, garnished with some royalty.... everything in its right place.
I think she was mostly described as “Britain’s worst female serial killer” Not the first. She was also compared to Beverly Allitt a lot. The huge media reaction was because it was shocking.
@@BruceLee-fd7uw Of course it is allowed if the authorities want to garner more information. The ONLY letters the authorities don't read are Solicitors' letters - because that is illegal.
Didn't it say that the letters were passed secretly and in code? Particularly at the beginning, when they were still meeting with solicitors. However, I'm not sure about after they were convicted. And, yes, disgusting.
Well, think about it. You've got two children still missing. The people who you know did it aren't telling you where they are, but you know they'll probably want to talk about it to each other, even if in code. So you let them communicate but you read their letters in the hope (vain, as it urned out) that one day they'll slip up in their hubris and give out a clue.
I’m a Christian but if there’s one crime that’s unforgivable then it’s the murder of children. My heart and prayers go to the victims families whose pain never ends
@@mac7040 Maybe you should have stopped your sentence at 'I am someone who has trouble reading'? or is it just that , once again, no one but you is allowed an opinion?
2 contrasting sick people really. Hindley probably did all she could on her escorted visit to the Moors, in order to find the bodies and think she would be exonerated at a later date from it. Brady on the other hand, had absolutely no intentions of showing the police where the bodies were, he probably didn't remember anyway as it had been so long, however, I truly believe he was up there to take in the place where he committed the evil. Basically a day trip to his shrine.
The tape of Lesley Anne must have been on-line for a short time because I distinctly remember hearing it. It absolutely broke my heart and has haunted me ever since
It's better to know where they are, but it's also painful to be told, that it's better not to see them. A dear friend of mine spent four days in water (no crime commited), and her family was told, that it would be better, if they remembered her as she was. It must have been horrible to find her and to make her ready for the funeral...and although she was an adult, the coffin ws so small.
I'm very sorry for your loss. My friend's sister went missing for a month, and was found in the Bristol Channel (again, no crime committed). The body was in such a bad condition that they could not let the family see it. My friend has never recovered from the horror and the grief.
It makes you wonder what kind of people wanted Hindley out . Who would ever want that . People trying to get her out should of themselves been huge red flags for dangerous weirdos
I think they deemed Brady criminally insane but Hindley knew exactly what she was doing. Its disgusting what these two got up to.Both dead now so some children never will be found.
@@debbiehollis5711 no it was ashworth, then they realise was faking it. He then demands to be sent back to regular prison so he can kill himself and was rightfully refused and force fed at ashworth. Him killing himself was all a out control and power, them stopping him from doing it took his power and control away, that was his punishment
Ian (and probably Myra too) probably got some kind of sick satisfaction knowing that Lesley's mother and stepfather were going to have to listen to that tape recording. That was more than likely the entire reason for Ian refusing to name her as the voice on the tape. What other recourse did the police have in those days? And that poor stepfather, living all these years with the memory of what he heard on the tape that day. God is their judge, not me. Although he's a merciful God, his mercy only extends to those who repent. For the sake of their souls, I hope they both repented. But I doubt it.
No god's mercy touched the young victims or their devastated families. The parents spent years being suspected by the police, and therefore everyone, of murdering their own children. David Smith, who put an end to the murders, was treated by the public as though he was a partner of Brady and Hinley's, rather than the person who told the police. He ended up having to leave the country. Brady and Hinley tormented the families for decades with their changing stories, publicity seeking, drip dripping of information and details, true or false, but always as part of endless years of bargaining. And both of them lived for a long time. Where was any god during any of that?
Shows she had no remorse and form when it came to picking deviancy in her partners. If anyone thought she was a safe bet on being released and not doing the very same again, they were deluded.
Except that the number of the beast in the Bible is 621. But yes, with pop culture reference of 666, that works....except for May = 5. People will see what they want to see.
My beloved, late uncle, an ex army Sergeant Major, became a prison officer after he retired from the army, and went to work in Gartree Prison. He used to refer to one prisoner he was responsible for as a maggot. It wasn’t until my uncle retired from the prison service that he revealed who this maggot was. It was Ian Brady 😳
HOW COULD PEOPLE SHAKE THE HANDS OF CHILD KILLER'S AND HOW THE HELL DID THEY LIVE SO LONG IN PRISON AND HAD NO BODY THE BALL'S TO MURDER THEM IN PRISON AND MAKE A NAME FOR THEMSELVES PLUS IT WOULD HAVE SAVED THE TAX PAYER MILLIONS AND IF THERE'S A HELL I HOPE THEM TWO BASTARDS ARE THERE ,, RIP TO ALL THOSE POOR LITTLE CHILDREN AND TO POOR KEITH BENNETT WHO I HOPE ONE DAY HE'LL BE FOUND AND HAVE A PROPER FUNERAL SO FAMILY AND FRIENDS CAN VISIT 🙏
The way the police lent all over the parents, hoping to get a conviction so it would go away. They still do this now, it's disgraceful. What's worse, they get away with it again and again.
So longford had time to defend that filth, but no time to go and comfort the poor parents . RIP to all the little children that were murdered , and are now in peace . As for the other two I won’t even mention their names , except to say that if there is a hell they are definitely in it , and to all the scum who defended them they should be ashamed .
Does anyone know who the guy at 08:35 is? I recognise him from somewhere but I just can't remember where from, and it's beginning to drive me up the wall the more I try to remember where I've seen him before 🙄👀👍
I can imagine Ian Bradley to be soo twisted when he took officers to the moors to look for Keith he had them stand on his “grave” as tha was his n myras thing
I'm pretty sure that all inmates letters are vetted so the claim that they were still exchanging letters about their sick fantasies seems pretty unlikely.
No actually! I had an ex in prison sending death letters every wk and on the front of the letters it would say sick stuff about hurting me and the got to me every week! The fact a Nunn-turned-screw tells us just how corrupt people are but able to work in important jobs. The system has always been corrupt from top to bottom.
They looked like normal correspondences but they had a system where they both knew that a certain number of words per line or sentence would make up the real message(s).
I hope that they are wrong, but there are many that believe for valid different reasons ,that myra hindly was released from prison. When you think about it, the public wouldnt be allowed to know as it would cause an uproar, so it is not so far fetched that she was released with a whole difcer3nt identity, i hope that someone in the right position can find out 1 way or another. The monster Hindly says she was sorry, but if that were really true, she wouldnt want freedom, she would feel that she didnt deserve it after what she had done, i mean things like this, sorry just doesnt cut it!
I was a teenager on the other side of the world. I recall somethimg about tapes but i dont think the details were available for public consumption. Then later living in london, i recall lord longford's well meaning, but naïve campaign. I think it safe to say that both were irredeemable and if released Hindley would have probably embarked on something similar yet again. Some behaviours are inate. With some affect states therapy is ineffective. A fact. Sad, but a cursed soul whose rôle was to do evil.
I'm in the USA and I remember this crime being reported when I was a boy in the late 70s early 80s...I didn't even know what "rape" meant. I seriously thought the boys were scratched down the back with a rake. My God help us...help those families...cut this sickness from human beings. We are the only species that kills for sport. We are supposed to be the evolved species.
..she shouldn't have been let out to die ..i dont believe shes died then ..its an easy cop out to say she died to stop people from finding her ..and him he lived a long life in prison and now dead .but the families were denied justice !
I worked in the prison system in the Texas State Prison system called the Texas department of Criminal Justice (T.D.C.J.) in the United States being a man and never once worked with a woman that wasn't at least bisexual if not full out lesbian in the prison as a guard or even office staff.
If it it was these days i reckon they would have had a worse time in prison and stricter rules like not being able to write to each other and crap like that
I hope they rot in hell , the poor parents & families have suffered all these yrs my heart aches for the parents .....and they sat in a cell not a care in the world everything handed to them & still exchanging horrific codes it doesn't make sense does it . God Bless all these children ......heartbreakingly sad .
So sad that Keith Bennett hasn't been found as yet its been 60 years wen them evil monsters took Keith to Saddleworth moors rip 🙏 Keith Bennett I hope one day you will be found
I feel so bad for the parents of Leslie Ann Downy, they had to hear the horrible tape and identify the body of their little girl. As a parent, I couldn't imagine the hell they went through.
True but also Keith Bennett whose mother went to her grave never knowing where her son’s body was buried. Hope they are now reunited
I've read the transcript of Leslie Ann Downey's torture and s3xual abuse, and it is truly heartbreaking. The christmas song "The Little Drummer Boy" sung by The Ray Conniff Singers was playing in the background (the song was mentioned in the transcript, as was the other christmas song that was played but i don't remember which song it was). It was one of my favourite versions of the song when i was a kid, but at the time i had no idea of the tragedies that occurred. Now, i find it hard to listen to without thinking of what pure hell Leslie endured.
What these two despicable, vile, and worthless wastes of oxygen did to the 5 children is disgusting, horrendous and atrocious. They should have gotten worse beatings by other prisoners than what they'd got.
I hope the 5 children are resting peacefully, even Keith Bennett, whose body was never found. Im sure his mother is with him now, holding him in her arms.
Hell was made for myra n ian
@@namewithheldbygoogleforsec673 . I find it hard to listen to as well. Delia Morris
Hearing those dreadful tapes .No mother should of had to endure that hell .
MH should of NEVER of been considered for Parole NEVER .
My heart just breaks for that step father... Some biological fathers dont show the care for their kids that this man does. God bless, sir.
I tried so hard to put that into words and couldn't do it. Perfectly put.
When it comes to being a parent, few things are as overrated as biology. This man is clearly the poor girl's parent, no matter if he has donated genes or not.
I’m a step dad myself. The love I hold for my daughter is infinite
@@Raztiana That's bullshit. Most men don't want to raise another man's kids. Why should we?
So heartbreaking. I grew up just 10 minutes away from where she lived and this story dominated and radically changed our childhood.
Me too.... I lived in Ashton-U-Lyne at the time John Kilbride went missing.... I'd be 12 or so.
@@carmellewis2466 I grew up in Liverpool - I was 14 at the time and it was absolutely horrifying. We immigrated to Canada in 1966 so we didn’t hear much after that. But I still remember the horror of those times.
My heart breaks for Keith Bennet's late mum Winnie who went to her grave never getting her son back to be able to give him a proper burial 💔💔💔💔💔
Please GOD she is with him now.
A consolation is that they're together now and at peace 🙏🏾
In cases like this the police should be given the power to get that information through any means necessary I would of broke every bone in there body's to find out where kieth was buried
Oh lord no, that's so heartbreaking and one of these two monsters could have just told people where he was!
They are in heaven together now ❤️❤️😢
I don't know what was cruelest, torturing a 4 yr. old or forcing the stepfather to have to hear that tape. True evil.
Absolutely agree and although age doesn't bear any relevance to your comment, Lesley was actually 10.
I agree ,that poor Man hearing the tape 😖
She was 10, but yes it's horrific.
We were supposed to go swimming with a friend but when we got to her house, there were two police cars outside of her door and police going in and out of the house.
Someone came out and said that Susan couldn’t come swimming because her brother was lost.
God bless him, Kieth is still lost, somewhere up there on the Moors.
No kid was allowed out on their own for years after that. Those monsters stole lives and the childhoods of so many. May they rot in Hell.
Keith Bennetts' only sister was named Sylvia ....
@HopelessSinner I would of thought enigma was a pseudonym wouldn't you 🙄
@@HopelessSinner
Keith’s sister is Susan Johnson.
Why are you contradicting me. I just told you that Susan was our friend. Susan’s mum was Winnie Johnson. Winnie died a while ago now.
Don’t call me a liar.
There’s always one fool …
@@Kelly-just-kelly
My mother did not christen me Enigma.
@@enigma_-_79 yep. That's what I said !
Despite all the atteocity in the world, this still shocks to the core. Those dear blessed children and poor poor parents.
I remember seeing a documentary with an interview with Ann West, Lesley Ann's mother, not long before
she died of cancer. That poor woman was tormented for the rest of her life after identifying her child's partly decomposed body (part of her had been in a patch of peat so had been stained but preserved, part was skeletal) and hearing that tape of her pleading for her Mummy.
Just doesnt bear thinking about, terrible terrible terrible
I can remember the people campaigning to get Myra out of prison. I was disgusted with them. She was a cold blooded murderer who was just as guilty as Brady.
@dougaldouglas8842 she was worse than Ian....she got the children for him!!! She asked by the mother of one of the children..she said no!! She was caught out through the tapes...She still didn't say anything to the police...laughed when they were called the Moor murders...saying we ( I) didn't kill Any moors..
They were future woke crowd
Lord Longford was the main one trying to get her out saying she was rehabilitated
She was worse than him.....Evil, Evil Woman!
i also remember who was the lord that was supporting her release sick people stick together
RIP Keith Bennett and hopefully one day soon they will find that poor little lad
I agree that poor lady never got her little baby boy back.
Back together in heaven now 🙏
Sadly unlikely, as he was buried in a water course, which doesn't preserve like peat, which three of the others were buried in.
@@vermilliongecko Thats something i didnt know
What is sickening is that the UK justice system let her order from Argos, have a great life inside, and do an art degree and there was a picture in the paper of the mayor shaking her hand with them both smiling! If someone had played the mayor the tapes of her sodomizing the kids and laughing and then told him she had done that to his own children, I doubt he would have shown up. Disgusting.
Such is British Justice:
All that twaddle about "reforming" vile people like these....yet nothing about punishment......
As for people like "Lord" Longford....a classic example of an archaic-misguided class structure...an abuse of a system that is failing us by the day.
No consideration for their victims families. Quite the opposite.
Makes me vomit...and desperately ashamed to be British.
They do all that to make sure prisoners behave; without incentives prisoners would be a nightmare for the prison staff . You may not like it but that's the facts
Also they have to work for the cash they spend and must save up over time . They don't get to order just anything either. There are limits.
Shall we bring back the Victorian era treadmill or do you just want death penalty???
@@outlawJosieFoxI think if it happened to your own kids, you wouldn’t be so interested in ‘’treating them well so they behave’’. A secured prison with secure walls and doors shouldn’t have the problem you are so worried about of keeping them in line.
That is typical weak UK style. If she had committed that crime in the US I would have loved to have seen what would have happened
to her. Definitely not Argos and TV 🙄 but we get it, you are a Myra Hindley fan and care about her wellbeing 🙄🙄🙄🙄🤐
Entitled to NOTHING IMO! Work for it or not! To commit the crimes that she was involved in she should have zero anything! Locked up and suffer just like those innocent little children! Pitiful piece of garbage 😡
David Smith gets forgotten, he put a stop to it all.
ok.
Ain’t that the truth .. if not for him who knows how many more innocent babies would have died 😞
People still blame him and say he was more involved. I don’t believe so. I haven’t seen or heard anything remotely convincing (if someone has something, do share). I think he did the right thing for the sake of it. Unfortunately, he was never properly thanked. Instead he lived out his entire life under a cloud of suspicion and blame for the murders. It’s terribly unfair. I hope he found peace and assurance that he did the right thing.
Yes, terrible the way he has been treated
Precisely. Excellent work, David.....
My heart goes out to Keith's family. I have walked on the moors many times in my life and you can't help but think of that poor little soul while you're up there. I wish he would be found soon, was so sad to hear of his mother, Winnie, passing away having never had the chance to lay her son to rest. I hope his brother, Alan, is able to see him laid to rest in his lifetime. God bless Keith and his family.
We ASSUME that Keith was buried on the moors, but he could be anywhere.
RIP Keith.
'Hell is empty...all the devils are here' William Shakespeare
She was a piece of work. Hard as nails - no compassion whatsoever. She wrote to Brady after their incarceration, until she realised it didn’t do her any favours. Then she spent several years pulling the wool over the eyes of bleeding-heart liberal Lord Longford. After she had served many years in jail, a visitor asked her how she could abduct a 10 year old child (Lesley), to which Hindley replied “Well she shouldn’t have been out so late”. She referred to the mother of one of her victims as “a hypocritical old bag” who needed “a brain implant”.
I was very relieved when Hindley died in prison; I couldn’t bear the thought that she might somehow wangle her freedom. After her death, the prison authorities had difficulty finding a local firm of undertakers who would handle the funeral; nobody wanted anything to do with the evil monster.
Longford son didn't agree with what his dad was doing.
@@Chaseniceness Well that proves, I suppose, there is one brain cell in the Longford family.
This was such cruelty on an unbelievable
Scale they got away with for a long time they were so evil I feel so sorry for the victims families
@@Chaseniceness Wow!!, I Didn't even know that Lord Longford even had any kids himself.
Lord Longford told Keith Bennet's mother she would never see Keith again (IE wouldn't go to Heaven) if she didn't forgive Myra and Ian).
The little boy calling for his Mummy.. that alone brought me to tears...😢
I was about to say they the same thing . I've never seen his family speak publicly. Must be too heartbroken, poor family
It was a little girl, Lesley Anne 😓
Awful a mother sat there for decade's not knowing where her little boy was. And then death meaning she'd never know. RIP
what a shame the tax payer had to keep these two monsters alive for so long!
And to be awarded academic diplomas
We don't have capital punishment that's why....
@roseanncampbell3168 maybe we should.
Great documentary. I've seen dozens of documentaries on the Moors Murders, but just when you think Brady and Hindley couldn't be any more evil, you hear lots of new details in this film about how they caused extra suffering for the parents, like refusing to confirm that it was them on the tape so that the police were forced to play it to Lesley Anne Downey's parents. And the fact that Brady and Hindley swapped letters detailing sick fantasies of what they wanted to do to other children for YEARS after they were in prison. And Hindley's letters to the children's parents, full of lies and self serving deceit.
Pure monsters...rest in peace little ones...
I must say I’ve seen several documentaries on Ian & Myra & The Moore’s Murders but this docu-series was very well put together with every detail.
My 💔 for Kieth Bennett’s family:(
Poor Winnie went to her grave after a lifetime of searching for her son and now his brother has to take up the task:(
All of the victims remaining families have my deepest & sincerest condolences.. They’re in my 🙏🏽
Wasn't there also a letter that Ian Brady wrote saying it gave the location of the body only for that to be untrue and just another way for him to torture the family? How could someone be that evil?
A 10 year-old but it doesn't make much difference. It's utterly chilling. They were two psychopaths. Poor Leslie Ann.
@@sarahpeart6500 It was just another tale that Brady Spun to torture Poor Winnie Johnson and the rest of her family unfortunately.
Ian and Myra?!! Using first names!?? Fgs They were Hindlay and Brady evil evil monsters!
@@Sandra-t2z8r,
Hindley *
Such a horrendous tragedy. Brady and Hindley, pure evil. And what they did to those poor victims and their families can never be overstated.
Wouldn't surprise me if brady had the police walking over Keith's grave in a final way of reliving the murder
I'm sure that's why he offered to "help" the police find Keith Bennett.
Some say he went there to assure himself that the burial site was still intact and had not been disturbed.
@@neilhilton35 Yes, his psychiatrist agrees that he would have almost certainly tried to do this.
A nun, prison guard, a lord and a whole series of blunders by the police.... couldn't make it up if you tried...not long after came Jimmy savile and his lord ladies and gentlemen, garnished with some royalty.... everything in its right place.
Why did the UK media react to Lucy Letby like she was the first female killer Britain had ever seen? Short memory?
There’s been many many more before that pos
I think she was mostly described as “Britain’s worst female serial killer”
Not the first. She was also compared to Beverly Allitt a lot. The huge media reaction was because it was shocking.
They should never have been allowed to write to each other. Disgusting
They didn't, all mail is read and it would never have been allowed
@@BruceLee-fd7uw Of course it is allowed if the authorities want to garner more information. The ONLY letters the authorities don't read are Solicitors' letters - because that is illegal.
@lexiburrows8127 It's not allowed, my brother is a bank robber and my ex who was a career criminal had their mail read, everyone knows its read
Didn't it say that the letters were passed secretly and in code? Particularly at the beginning, when they were still meeting with solicitors. However, I'm not sure about after they were convicted. And, yes, disgusting.
Well, think about it. You've got two children still missing. The people who you know did it aren't telling you where they are, but you know they'll probably want to talk about it to each other, even if in code. So you let them communicate but you read their letters in the hope (vain, as it urned out) that one day they'll slip up in their hubris and give out a clue.
First time I've seen a documentary mention the false accusations that others had to suffer because of these revolting beings
I’m a Christian but if there’s one crime that’s unforgivable then it’s the murder of children. My heart and prayers go to the victims families whose pain never ends
Who are you to decide what is and isn't unforgivable? That should be down to your god.
@@mac7040 No one is 'deciding'. It is j0nnyism's opinion . Who are you to decide what opinions we can hold?
@@crowsarefab I am someone who has difficulty reading such badley written replies. But thank you for your effort 😅
@@mac7040 Maybe you should have stopped your sentence at 'I am someone who has trouble reading'? or is it just that , once again, no one but you is allowed an opinion?
Jesus would forgive them.
They were real monsters on this earth, and that was Bradey and Hindley.😢
So Sad,💔 Condolences to All the Families💐🙏💐🙏💐🙏💐🙏💐🙏, RIP TO ALL THE VICTIMS 👼🕊🙏⚘➕
2 contrasting sick people really. Hindley probably did all she could on her escorted visit to the Moors, in order to find the bodies and think she would be exonerated at a later date from it. Brady on the other hand, had absolutely no intentions of showing the police where the bodies were, he probably didn't remember anyway as it had been so long, however, I truly believe he was up there to take in the place where he committed the evil. Basically a day trip to his shrine.
The tape of Lesley Anne must have been on-line for a short time because I distinctly remember hearing it. It absolutely broke my heart and has haunted me ever since
Pure evil, sadly l can understand one could hurt a child through frustration but to kill for pleasure! Evil,pure evil.
Could you ???!! I couldn’t ever imagine any reason for killing a child..
They were both psychopaths. I get tired of people trying to imply that she was under Brady's influence. What kind of woman goes along with that?
Exactly, well said. 👍
No woman. Never
What saddens me that Winnie Johnson passed away without knowing where her son was buried .Hope they're together now.
Avoiding a media scrum is a piss poor reason not to prosecute.
It's better to know where they are, but it's also painful to be told, that it's better not to see them. A dear friend of mine spent four days in water (no crime commited), and her family was told, that it would be better, if they remembered her as she was. It must have been horrible to find her and to make her ready for the funeral...and although she was an adult, the coffin ws so small.
Prayers for little Pauline, her poor mother and your dear friend, God rest their souls and comfort their families.🌹
I'm very sorry for your loss. My friend's sister went missing for a month, and was found in the Bristol Channel (again, no crime committed). The body was in such a bad condition that they could not let the family see it. My friend has never recovered from the horror and the grief.
@@vermilliongecko, thank you. I'm so sorry for you and your friend's loss as well.
It makes you wonder what kind of people wanted Hindley out .
Who would ever want that .
People trying to get her out should of themselves been huge red flags for dangerous weirdos
Im thinking Rose West is the most wicked woman. Its not a compatition i know but to kill you're own..evil sucks
rose was mentally challenged...
@@tsambikasabineiakovidis7755 oh yeah I forget that..I heard they had a love affair. Perfect couple yuk
@samanthaparmley1386 The fact that Rose West was mentally challenged wasn't mentioned as an excuse. Stop going after people for no reason.
I think they deemed Brady criminally insane but Hindley knew exactly what she was doing. Its disgusting what these two got up to.Both dead now so some children never will be found.
He wasn't labelled criminally insane, he tried to get himself labelled that but my psychiatrists didn't agree with him
@@roseanncampbell3168 But he went to Broadmoore which is for the criminally insane.
@@debbiehollis5711 no it was ashworth, then they realise was faking it. He then demands to be sent back to regular prison so he can kill himself and was rightfully refused and force fed at ashworth.
Him killing himself was all a out control and power, them stopping him from doing it took his power and control away, that was his punishment
Ian (and probably Myra too) probably got some kind of sick satisfaction knowing that Lesley's mother and stepfather were going to have to listen to that tape recording. That was more than likely the entire reason for Ian refusing to name her as the voice on the tape. What other recourse did the police have in those days? And that poor stepfather, living all these years with the memory of what he heard on the tape that day. God is their judge, not me. Although he's a merciful God, his mercy only extends to those who repent. For the sake of their souls, I hope they both repented. But I doubt it.
No god's mercy touched the young victims or their devastated families. The parents spent years being suspected by the police, and therefore everyone, of murdering their own children. David Smith, who put an end to the murders, was treated by the public as though he was a partner of Brady and Hinley's, rather than the person who told the police. He ended up having to leave the country.
Brady and Hinley tormented the families for decades with their changing stories, publicity seeking, drip dripping of information and details, true or false, but always as part of endless years of bargaining. And both of them lived for a long time.
Where was any god during any of that?
How can you use their Christian names?!!
And to think, Myra and Rose West had a long standing affair in prison…
Shows she had no remorse and form
when it came to picking deviancy in her partners. If anyone thought she was a safe bet on being released and not doing the very same again, they were deluded.
Birds of a feather!
Sickening , they were both such vile evil creatures 🤢
I can’t imagine a universe where Hindley would ever get her freedom.
Well it would be,if it took place here in California.
well if Lord Longford was in charge she would have been freed.
Convicted 6 May 66. How appropriate.
Except that the number of the beast in the Bible is 621.
But yes, with pop culture reference of 666, that works....except for May = 5.
People will see what they want to see.
6/5/1966
My beloved, late uncle, an ex army Sergeant Major, became a prison officer after he retired from the army, and went to work in Gartree Prison. He used to refer to one prisoner he was responsible for as a maggot. It wasn’t until my uncle retired from the prison service that he revealed who this maggot was. It was Ian Brady 😳
What sick individuals hard to watch these sometimes
HOW COULD PEOPLE SHAKE THE HANDS OF CHILD KILLER'S AND HOW THE HELL DID THEY LIVE SO LONG IN PRISON AND HAD NO BODY THE BALL'S TO MURDER THEM IN PRISON AND MAKE A NAME FOR THEMSELVES PLUS IT WOULD HAVE SAVED THE TAX PAYER MILLIONS AND IF THERE'S A HELL I HOPE THEM TWO BASTARDS ARE THERE ,, RIP TO ALL THOSE POOR LITTLE CHILDREN AND TO POOR KEITH BENNETT WHO I HOPE ONE DAY HE'LL BE FOUND AND HAVE A PROPER FUNERAL SO FAMILY AND FRIENDS CAN VISIT 🙏
Hear Hear!!
Is it too late to use lidar to find Keith?
I never realized that the first murder occurred on my birthday, when I turned 6 years old 😢.
Does anyone know what year this was filmed
ian brady was in the band - the lightning seeds
The way the police lent all over the parents, hoping to get a conviction so it would go away. They still do this now, it's disgraceful. What's worse, they get away with it again and again.
A problem is they suffer confirmation bias. Once they think someone is their target they get blinkers and interpret everything one way.
@@ChoppingtonOtter In other words, they are a bunch of lazy criminals.
Subject matter and narration are good, but the annoying record player sound every few minutes destroys the flow.
So longford had time to defend that filth, but no time to go and comfort the poor parents . RIP to all the little children that were murdered , and are now in peace . As for the other two I won’t even mention their names , except to say that if there is a hell they are definitely in it , and to all the scum who defended them they should be ashamed .
Does anyone know who the guy at 08:35 is? I recognise him from somewhere but I just can't remember where from, and it's beginning to drive me up the wall the more I try to remember where I've seen him before 🙄👀👍
The hypocrisy has no limits. Trafficked and trapped kids but hates being trapped.
Even though keith bennets body was never found at least him and his mother are now together in heaven 🙏
Thanks
that tape should never be released it should be destroyed the case is over.
See Vanessa Frake’s retired Governor of Holloway Prison, who said Myra Hindley and Rose West had an affair whilst in prison.
That happened when both killers were at HMP Durham.
@@maunsell24 thank you for the correction
Oh its a vary Sad Demise of innocent children ❤
I can imagine Ian Bradley to be soo twisted when he took officers to the moors to look for Keith he had them stand on his “grave” as tha was his n myras thing
I've said this sadly I think he took them there sadly to have his last bit of power & look or stand on poor Keith's grave! 🥺
the case should never be closed until that little lad Keith Bennett is found so he can be laid to rest with his mum Winnie
Some say Jimmy Saville dyed his hair to look like Myra Hindley
17:10 My heart bled.
When was this film made?
I'm pretty sure that all inmates letters are vetted so the claim that they were still exchanging letters about their sick fantasies seems pretty unlikely.
Your spot on there’s no way they could be in touch with each other
They were exchanging them secretly at their lawyer visits during their trial
No actually! I had an ex in prison sending death letters every wk and on the front of the letters it would say sick stuff about hurting me and the got to me every week!
The fact a Nunn-turned-screw tells us just how corrupt people are but able to work in important jobs.
The system has always been corrupt from top to bottom.
@dee-deelove9310 No they were not, no lawyer is going to ruin a career reputation and pension for a pair of evil child rapist killers
They looked like normal correspondences but they had a system where they both knew that a certain number of words per line or sentence would make up the real message(s).
I'm reading the book right now....she was even more of a disturbing horror than I knew.
Omg they let them write sick letters to each other from jail.
Nope...
I hope that they are wrong, but there are many that believe for valid different reasons ,that myra hindly was released from prison. When you think about it, the public wouldnt be allowed to know as it would cause an uproar, so it is not so far fetched that she was released with a whole difcer3nt identity, i hope that someone in the right position can find out 1 way or another. The monster Hindly says she was sorry, but if that were really true, she wouldnt want freedom, she would feel that she didnt deserve it after what she had done, i mean things like this, sorry just doesnt cut it!
I pray for Keith’s family that one day he will be found and to rest
I was a teenager on the other side of the world. I recall somethimg about tapes but i dont think the details were available for public consumption. Then later living in london, i recall lord longford's well meaning, but naïve campaign. I think it safe to say that both were irredeemable and if released Hindley would have probably embarked on something similar yet again.
Some behaviours are inate. With some affect states therapy is ineffective. A fact. Sad, but a cursed soul whose rôle was to do evil.
What a horrible couple!
I'm in the USA and I remember this crime being reported when I was a boy in the late 70s early 80s...I didn't even know what "rape" meant. I seriously thought the boys were scratched down the back with a rake. My God help us...help those families...cut this sickness from human beings. We are the only species that kills for sport. We are supposed to be the evolved species.
Who is narrating this video?
This was interesting
Evil just simply amazing that this evil exists, I don’t know why I watch these things, I guess I’m still amazed these people are actually real
"They didn't believe him", "they let her go, so she went to destroy evidence". Such a misconduct, it's almost the police is accomplices the killers
“Oh Manchester, so much to answer for…” (Morrissey, The Smiths) 💔
I would bet my life that any person who pleaded for her release wouldn't let her near their family 😢a vile heartless subhuman.
44:00 What?
Well, you know how it is, 'boys will be boys'! 🙄
I am glad I am not the only one who noticed that statement.
Why tf were they allowed so much communcation with each other and with the parents of the victims?
..she shouldn't have been let out to die ..i dont believe shes died then ..its an easy cop out to say she died to stop people from finding her ..and him he lived a long life in prison and now dead .but the families were denied justice !
I never realised they were so young. 23 and 27 on arrest.
Makes you wonder what Longford was up to ?
I worked in the prison system in the Texas State Prison system called the Texas department of Criminal Justice (T.D.C.J.) in the United States being a man and never once worked with a woman that wasn't at least bisexual if not full out lesbian in the prison as a guard or even office staff.
A correction: it's not correct that the photo's indicated where ALL the bodies were - one body has never been found to this day.
PS: It's Keith Bennett who has never been found
That little boy will be found 1 day. Im certain of that. That poor mother and family. ❤
No one is looking
Search in 2022 produced no results
If it it was these days i reckon they would have had a worse time in prison and stricter rules like not being able to write to each other and crap like that
Who plays Ian in this? A very hard figure to portrait on the screen but the guy did a good job.
I thought the picture was Dermot Morgan - Father Ted - in a comedy sketch
I hope they rot in hell , the poor parents & families have suffered all these yrs my heart aches for the parents .....and they sat in a cell not a care in the world everything handed to them & still exchanging horrific codes it doesn't make sense does it . God Bless all these children ......heartbreakingly sad .
Thats a rough 23 years old.
Must be another photo please
A greater judgment awaits both of them . Little Keith Bennet will be in glorious heaven , with his beloved parents. RIP precious boy.
How many commercials are you going to have in this upload ?
So sad that Keith Bennett hasn't been found as yet its been 60 years wen them evil monsters took Keith to Saddleworth moors rip 🙏 Keith Bennett I hope one day you will be found
And evil monster Hindlay remarked “stupid girl should never have been out at that time of night”
Omgoodness, I was too young to know what happened 😳
Absolutely fudging disgusting 😡😓
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