I've seen this guy before. I checked out one of his other videos and within the first couple of minutes, he calls a gay people "satanic devil worshippers". at that point, I couldn't take him seriously anymore. I won't deny that there is a lot of garbage games getting released now that also tend to be progressive. but that bit genuinely left me laughing out loud. the worst part is that I can get behind some of what he says. but I think I agree with him for different reasons. he says, "it's woke, liberal, satanic garbage getting injected into video games." I say it's greedy corporations prioritizing revenue and player retention rather than fun.
@@fus3n atleast he's actually adding conversation to the reaction, which I prefer over staring blankly at the screen for the whole vid and saying "thanks for watching with me cya"
The spread of conspiracy thought has made any and all problems able to be drawn back to a grand cabal who is making your life worse, specifically because they hate "people like me.". Maybe also a fallout of people wanting to be victims (like this guy) even though the only hardships they have to hang their baggage on is being a gamer who got made fun of for playing to many FPS games and not going outside enough.
@@CaptainKolza To be fair, looking at the number of DLCs for Train Sim World 4... I'm pretty sure the devs want to fuck me, regardless of my gender... and that is pretty fucking gay... That game has 2300€ worth of dlcs ffs
If a gay character is outwardly gay its pushing an agenda, if its a subtle reveal through hidden clues they are turning straight characters gay, its a lose lose situation, its like to some people there needs to be a lore reason why someone is black or gay, as those people don't just exist irl.
That doesn't work for some games. Look at Cyberpunk 2077. The one blatant transgender person in a game all about swapping body parts and cyborgs, is (afaik) the only time you'll see the transgender flag, slapped on the back of the same transgender character's truck, which you can eventually unlock to drive it, and many people are confused as to why transgenderism still exists in the world of cyberpunk. This was definitely an "inclusive, in your face" moment IMHO, while the logic behind it made no sense.
@@ThePimpinator I don't know cyberpunk's lore behind body augs and how gender works there since I never played it, I'm more so commenting how for some there needs to be a lore reason why someone is gay, like they can't just have a world where some people happen to be gay.
@@QWERTYUIOP-zo8xmthink alot of people simply just don't realize exactly how many people are queer in real life, if they're brought up in a conservative area obviously they'll see less of it since more people are closeted there. I just think it's odd how many people throw a fit as soon as games starts to cater not only them but also to other groups of people. There are "manly" and "for the boys" characters in "gay" games like overwatch, but they're so blinded by the canonical queer characters that they can't enjoy themselves 💀💀💀
@@ThePimpinator How would it make no sense? Not everyone in that world can afford full augmentation and even if they could plenty of people still choose to stay organic.
@@edeffectsNot targeting them, the points he makes in the video talks about how the market has become over saturated with games that appeal to minorities, and how less games appeal to just boys in general, the main market gaming started out in. He’s not targeting the minorities, he’s looking at companies and their “inclusive” behavior.
if Ballad of Gay Tony came out today you'd get all these ragebait channels doing the "GTA HAS GONE WOKE" "GTA IS DEAD", and I don't mean fully, the smarter ones wouldn't do that because they don't wanna embarrass themselves trashing a good game, just like how you don't see a lot of these channels go after good but woke Shows/Games/Movies because they'll look like clowns
I heard that Romans being gay is over reported because it was just Romans being petty and calling prominent figures they didn't like being gay in the ancient text. Based honestly
@@Ar1AnX1x Actually, fun fact, historically ancient Greece was nowhere near as Gay as people say, so much so that it actually was seen as a homophobic era: the majority of homosexual activity was partaken in by the rich nobility (who always were allowed to get away with things). The idea that ancient Greece was a gay progressive time comes from a progressive historian wildly mischaracterizing certain Greek stories and artworks as depicting homosexual relationships and activities, including pederasty (you know, the one with the little lads that is illegal nowadays), and furthermore claiming these were seen as positive. In reality, the ancient Greeks even had slurs for homosexuals. And no. It was not based on whether you were a top or a bottom. Being a bottom was seen as worse, but being a top was still terrible in their eyes.
So he's saying old games were better because it had men in it. Not because they were good, or had amazing combat, or that the characters were well written, nope it was good because it was about men.
I feel this argument is so nitpicky because every single game he's mentioned literally has way more masculine characters than not but when 1 feminine male is introduced its suddenly all masculinity is being killed. Also game playerbases are way more diverse now its not just a sausage fest anymore
A diverse cast of characters is always nice. One of my favorite casts is baldurs gate 3 and elden ring, both games have such interesting and unique characters that aren't just manly white guy
Literally was thinking "is this guy stuck in 2006 or something?" Games aren't the nerdy weird guy thing anymore. Everyone plays them. And some games will not be catered to his love for war games with guns and beefy, strong, sweaty, white men.
Bad writing does not mean woke Edit: if you say that all 'woke' is bad writing then you are completly missing the point of what I am trying to say. Just because a AAA studio has a poorly written gay character that does not mean they are inserting their leftist agenda and turning the fricking frogs gay.
@@sandersGG You're saying most things . The topic is video games. And the consistent pattern of poor writing is noticeable when there are hamfisted identity politics involved.
@Mondoness bruh what you typed out effectively is bad writing is bad when it's bad your correct bad games that are written in a bad way are consistently bad also what data are you deriving this from because identity politics has been in games for long ass time since it's conception
I love how he can't actually explain why having more biracial, gay, trans, and neurodivergent rep in games is outright bad, because its not that which makes them bad. It's the identity politics, the lack of substance behind any of these characters, no matter how inclusive they are or are not. Games have always had these sorts of issues, just not with the level of rainbow and pink washing we see now. There are too many games made by queer and bipoc people to count readily, and for every single Saints Row reboot shitshow that comes out there's going to be at least two more Celestes, Ultrakills, Night in the Woods, etc.
the numbers says it all lmao... and yeah its bad when its straight up propaganda but ill people cant clearly see them self so they would not see the bigger picture :)
calling "cutsie" games gay is crazy, like you'd think he'd call it feminine or some shit but no, only men play video games and if you like pink you're gay
@@blackadder5346 he wasn't like this originally, his channel was originally an Xbox fanboy kinda channel, then he flipped few months back and all of a sudden turned into a conservative grifter, he even went on and started deleting his old videos where he was praising games with LGBT stuff
My inner history buff cringed when he mentioned how only men fought in wars. Bro they've got a list of several hundred soldiers who dressed as men and fought in the US Civil War those are the ones who were found out, Romans hated fighting Celtiberian tribes because women would fight to the end decreasing the amount of spoils, when the enemies of the Mongols would try launching an ambush on the baggage train they would find out that Mongol women were just as ready for battle as the men were. The list goes on and on.
@@07W 1 bad example out of dozens of successful ones shows you're nit picking. Keep trying though little man, and I hope your day at preschool goes good.
@@07W there are many instances of women fighting and being successful, one of them would be how Order of the Hatchet got created, look it up its actually interesting
Another thing, something tells me that TH-camr didn't know/learn about how prevalent and significant the homosexuality and bisexuality in ancient Greece and ancient Rome were. This is why I can't take his opinions seriously, he's so hilariously pathetic.
"I don't like this, therefore I secretly love it" is the lamest mental gymnastic move ever. So I guess you are secretly a Nazi then, because you "hate them" so much? See how stupid this logic is?
That guy's video is literally besieged fortress syndrome. He picks the singular gay examples from the mass of masculine content. And the way he undermines women in gaming... women were making games literally from day one, greatest games had women working on them.
I hate the narrative. Overwatch has Soldier 76 and Reinhardt. Every game doesn't need to be like Gears of War where every single character would be a top 1 NFL prospect based on their build alone. The ESG thing I'm slightly familiar with and could hold some weight. I do think times are changing. But just because something (inclusivity and diversity) is prevalent, doesn't mean masculinity is bad
@lutkuhuuli586 see I played OW and didn't know this, thanks for correcting me 😭😭 reaper isn't gay too right? Cause he's my next example. And there's also Doomfist!
Trust me, the guy wants to see sweaty men in tactical gear all the time, he just loves men and masculinity alot, like so much, he wants to see more MANLY men in games not women
As a gay man, I'd like to apologise to the gaming community for ending all games simply by being born Please call 1800-HOMO for a full refund on all games
This irony of this statement is that it's not him who thinks being gay is the opposite of masculine, it's the "progressive" writers who think this way, and he's simply calling this out.
Andy pants is so damn immature he’s going to any small channel criticizing him to call them either gay, crossdressers, or “beta”. This is apparently a 40 year old man with a wife and kids. He’s also the same guy known for having a channel where he constantly shills and fanboys for xbox Also funny that you don’t see him here! It’s almost like he’s afraid of talking shit to a big channel… Also it’s ridiculous that he said Saints Row 2022 was bad because of “gay devs”, it’s bad because the publisher Deep Silver vastly limited the freedom of Volition’s devs and writers and pushed a certain direction on them. They even made them use teal as the game’s main aesthetic color instead of purple in the marketing. The original direction they wanted to go for was something like Saints Row 2, but Deep Silver wanted a quirky, “relatable” story about broke post-college dudes who drink mimosas and friendship. Also, wait til he finds out that SR2 had a gender slider and let you make trans characters lol Also he acts like Elden Ring had giant droves of people trying to cancel it. Wait til he finds out how many LGBT fans the game has… Also, Pyro Saints Row 2 stream when?
@@roberto8442 overwatch was a live service that slowly went to shit from a combination of neglect and poor decision from blizzard (aka overwatch 2) long after it won GOTY. Baldur's Gate 3 isn't ever gonna degrade from its peak because it is already a complete game and isn't live service.
@@roberto8442 overwatch got goty back in 2016, back when it was actually good. Your thoughts on the game awards don’t mean anything because overwatch only got objectively worse way after it won the game awards
@@roberto8442Overwatch got GOTY because it was good. It just so happens that it's a live service game so it got bad afterwards. That doesn't mean the award was wrong. After all, it's "Game of the YEAR" and OW was kinda peak back then when it recieved the GOTY. Baldur's Gate got GOTY for the same reason - it's simply the thing people agreed was the best that year. There's no difference in quality argument to be made, unless you really don't like a certain game but that's taste.
I couldn't care less about a character's sexuality, but many game studios think that diversity can replace writing. Many companies think that being gay isn't a single attribute, but rather an entire personality that should be the crux of a character, and that is the problem.
I think one character that's personality is literally just being gay but is actually written well is Bernie from GTA 4. Im not going to go into full detail but basically in the beginning the protag is trying to track down the man who sold his unit out and you spend most of the 1st part of the game trying to track down this man who from the protag's personal experience viewed him as being one of the manliest and intimidating soldiers in the Yukoslovian army. Once the protag confronts Bernie, you find out he became super feminine and openly gay and we don't know why until Bernie reveals he wasen't the one who sold the unit out and when he directs the protag to the real betrayer he lets down his mask briefly and became super menacing before repressing his trauma and going back to himself. For the rest of the game he's just a regular dude who's super femmine and is openly gay thus his personality just being "im gay" but I thought that was pretty deep especially since you do jobs for Bernie since him masking his trauma also made him reject violence despite being just as skillful and hardened as the protag.
@@witext People are usually deeper than their labels but it's like mainstream media is allergic to not make every lgbtq person have colored hair and the ability to have the most unnecessary dialogue. It's honestly damaging to these communities when we're literally just people.
True but that is bad writing not "woke" or whatever. These people are being disingenuous when they frame it that way instead of acknowledging their own biases.
I feel that it's pretty telling what his stance is on this stuff when he uses so many buzzwords. "Woke Mob", "LGBT Mafia", referring to non-LGBT men as "normal men", etc. It reeks of online echo chambers that want to pin all the woes of modern gaming on "Wokeness". I don't think shoehorning diversity into games after they've already been written is a good idea, but it's hard to take the guy seriously when his entire video sounds like an incel's long-winded post in a gaming subreddit.
The problem with conversations nowadays. You can’t make a discussion without some vocal minority twisting it into an agenda against a group of people. None of them have learned anything from the constant racism and bigotry and it shows
Yes in my opinion, diversity is a bit forced in games now but you can clearly tell the guy that made the video is such an incel. 🤓☝ "Remember when games had MASCULINE man with HOT BLONDE GIRLS and blue eyes, games these days are so WOKE".
That's the annoying thing about gamers like this. Is there something to be said? Yeah. Are you the one to say it? Obviously not. But they think they're right because a bunch of teenagers who are still operating on "girls are nice to look at, but they talk too much" gave them kudos.
Ah yes, blaming a group of people for the faults of big corpos. Truly a, very informed, non-ignorant statement. And even if they're not good games in general right now, older "manly games" can still provide hours of fun. Look no further than ARMA3, Squad or whatever.
I find it kinda funny actually that the perceived opposite to masculinity is being gay. Like what? 🤣 Plenty of gay men are very masculine. Okay, I'm watching the video now promise
Tell me which sounds easier to believe. Corporate writers crowbarring diversity into there games as a lazy attempt to achieve the broadest audience possible in order to help recoup the unbelievably bloated development time and budgets of modern games, with said budgets also resulting in projects so insanely risk adverse that the games all become stale, repetitive and boring. So much so that some people, looking for any excuse decided to blame the increased diversity as the cause rather than this simply being the logical endpoint of demanding infinite growth from the gaming industry. OR some sort of conspiracy to ruin games by a group with a "woke agenda" because of what? Spite against their own audiences? Shadowy investment money?
@@biomageverrol He didn't say forager. He said "many games look gay". Oh but it's on the store page rn, so he meant that, right? The scroll wheel is also gay? Is the store gay? I mean good you are hearing him out at least, you realize colorful games look gay, otherwise you wouldn't have made the joke.
@@revisit8480 no he's pointing it out because the only real criteria this guy has for "gay" is that it has a more vibrant color palette. That's just been a trend in video games over the last decade, because in-game lighting effects have gotten better, and textures/models can be more detailed, so you don't have to have a gray tint and motion blur over everything to hide the low resolution graphics. This whole video is an unintentional Rorschach test where everybody's weird markers for what is efeminite and "unmanly" come out in full force. And then the other 50% of the totally manly men have to justify why their chosen character isn't gay. It's like being in Middle school all over again, I hate it.
@@revisit8480 He clearly meant the games with more colorful presentations (since he's never played forager or any of the other games, he probably means those), otherwise he would've put that same Valorant clip he played like 15 times in the video of the black guy
I don't wanna sound offensive, but if you wanna make a gay character interesting and likable, don't make being gay their whole personality. Give them depth. Also I bet he is the average Reddit edgelord that argues with everyone in the comment section
Nah as a queer trans person that ain’t offensive that’s just real; why does every queer trans whatever character have to be a damn theatre kid personality
@@jackieAZdiversity quota, they do this to make progressives buy their game, I should make extensive note, what I mean by is that they want progressive gamers to buy, once progressive gamers just don't buy those games, probably because they're rushed and soulless, they will just stop, they do what gets them money, line go up.
You think anyone has ever bought a game just because they had a gay character? I don’t think so, they add diverse characters so they can have a diverse audience play the game and all feel like they can see themselves in a character or see a character like them, instead of the basic white straight man as every character under the sun. There are lots of companies that do try to act progressive by saying “look they’re the first gay people in our show” and then they get 3 seconds of screen time total
"We need to bring back MASCULINITY and NONGAY in games like it's 2000s!" TF2: "Get behind me doctor!" "Charge me!" "Ohhh" "Ohhhhh" "Obhhhhhh" "Medic!" "YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" "Good times!"
I got recommended the guy's video about games being gay and assumed it was satire from the thumbnail alone and the first minute. Realised pretty soon after it wasn't though lol
yeah, same. After watching a pretty good TH-cam rec video called "Why are fighting games so gay", I got this guy's video too, and I thought it would be an interesting and nuanced conversation talking about industries trying to push a standard or whatever... nope, the guy himself and the comments ended up being an echo chamber of "masculine men only", "omg someone speaks for all of us", perpetuating LGBTQ/wokeness/gay as an "us vs them" scenario idk man, one other guy in the comment section said it best: There's a conversation to be had here, but the guy's an extremist
these "why situation le happen" vids are so surface level analysis nowadays. literally not even bothering to research, just pull out their opinion as an argument for every take accompanied by green sample text
Only an issue if you play shitty live service games that companies want to charge you 5x the price of your average game to continue progressing in. Just play indie/single player games and ignore shit online games.
@@yaboi7774 Probably tbf xD. He needs to play some Fear & Hunger or Jupiter Hell & realise masculinty is still very much intact in the modern gaming industry.
That's the issue, OP thinks indie games are also woke or "leftist propagandas". That explains why 90% of the games he showed as examples in his videos were about military and war, and that they were all produced by AAA studios. He's beyond salvation. He's stuck in 2005-2010 era.
@@Piccolo-The-Namekian Look he's just getting old and the world is leaving him behind. I also remember playing medal of honor and wish they made those, 2000's were the best for games due to the mbeing more experimental.
Never play Elden Ring, heard community is pretty toxic and you are expect to min max, not allow to be caster cause they are weak from I am told by Dark Souls fans
The thing that bothers me is that in games such as fallout and cod have a military/apocalyptic aesthetic and then they have bunny outfits and movie themed skins. Edit: i meant fallout 76 not the old ones.
Fallout 1, 2, 3 and NV were baller. None of the CoDs I like have bunny suits either. I never drank an energy drink they shilled either. Oh you mean right, as in: New games. No shit, huh?
Fallout only gives you that with mods (especially the bunny outfits part) and CoD just tries to imitate Fortnite with endless crossovers and collaborations in order to get soyboys pay for bundles
How does this affect your enjoyment of the game? I don’t like them because they border on $20 for a skin bundle and don’t even sell the skins separate but didn’t we always want more customization in games? If someone wants to be Nicki Minaj in Battle royale or mp let them be lol
@@ender4101 Ah yes "minorites" aka "progressive caricatures of certain types of people who's only contribution to the story is merely to just exist for the sake of token diversity points"
As a straight male who is in love with old 2000s video games, I must say I always appreciate well written female protags as much as well written male protags I don't ever care about games that aggressively include LGBT stuff, I'm not gonna support it, but I'm not gonna go around and call everything gay or wish we could have more female characters whose only purpose is to be the sex object and the male protag be more dominant I just want a game like Saints Row 2, the main target audience is male but can be unisex with the inclusion of female character option, and yet they still didn't hold their punches with the theme of the entire game Or better yet, just a female protag that doesn't have to be entirely written around LGBT, I'm tired of game devs trying to be so diversed and try too hard to please everyone, but not focusing on what makes a game good and what makes a story good
I mean they kinda have to, really. I feel like I wouldn't have any problem with LGBTQ+ characters with good writing. Like LGBTQ+ characters written with their sexuality in mind come out so well.
You're more reasonable and rational-minded than AndyPants. While I'm mildly progressive as I got older, I'm super indifferent when it comes to the LGBT elements in video games. I want nice writings, good plot, likeable characters, awesome soundtracks and amazing gameplays. That's it. If I can't have all of those requirements met in a video game, that is fine too. I can appreciate the remaining "saving graces" of a flawed game at the very least. The diverse representations in video games don't bother me. It is tokenism, a.k.a "shallow diversity" in video games that bother me. That is when I can tell the developers (and their executives) went with their pathetic D.E.I approach for their games. That is when we know they're desperately pandering to a certain crowd but failing miserably anyways.
@@awagnowA game is too conservative if it something like a big franchise that pretty much refuses to change anything and keeps the gameplay always same... Call of duty..
@@awagnow you either don't know what these political terms mean, you're a conservatoid yourself, or you're a troll. whichever it is, you're not worth it.
@@keyan1219they're only one, my theory is that a lot of these companies want the image of the right side of history, like marten Luther or Abraham Lincoln, they want to seem progressive and Forward thinking so people trust them, getting rid of politics, these companies treat the average people terribly, they're exploiting their workers and ripping off their customers, because no government or people in power will do something about, and so they cosplay as liberator, to gain trust of the people, so they can exploit them more.
Literally! Blackrock is an investment firm. They own a shitload of assets because that’s their business, buying and selling stocks for their clients. Some of those clients do care about progressive values, so their rating of companies exists so that those clients can make an informed decision about their investment. It’s not a way that Blackrock is trying to control or influence the culture, its literally just a byproduct of their business model lmao
Just want to let you know that this man has a wife (probably unsatisfied) and kids. He was banned from Twitter for harassing PlayStation and Pc fans due to him being a massive Xbox fanboy, just as a reminder he is in his late 30s to early 40s.
It's always those weird middle aged man who make those videos. I think they legit just cannot cope that they are getting old and just lash out in this way. Disco Elysium was onto something.
Yeah he seems like a weirdo. I mean, it's really not like every game now is forcing you to be a flamboyant gay man or woman like he's making it out to be, most gay and LGBTQ+ characters don't make their sexuality or identity their primary focus.
In honesty, there are soo much actual gems out there. You probably have couple of tripple A slop of your choosing set to release in 1 or 1,5 years so in the meantime, instead of grinding your frontal lobe in multiplayer of your chosing, just grab 60 bucks and browse indie section to buy whatever makes you curious. Play Lacuna and when Sunless Skies, they are amazing.
@@guyferrari8124 No, it was always like that. Such is the nature of triple A. The only thing that has changed is your perception and your *belly* is full of Assasins creeds, CoDs and Far Cries. Don’t confuse nostalgia with memories. I can play Mafia The city of Lost Heaven from beginning to end but my friends call that game shit.
The fact that this video (the Andypants one) had such a positive like/dislike ratio is mind boggling to me- the whole video all he does is just blame LGBTQIA people and women for ruining masculinity in games- like- this is just unfiltered bigotry with no proof, and all of the comments are agreeing- where's the proof? "GUYS IT'S THE GAYS & WOMENS FAULT SAINTS ROW REBOOT WAS BAD TRUST"
These type of people are beginning to come out of hiding and show their ignorance now that’s others are coming out to show their immaturity and stupidity
I mean that’s a pretty bad example because it literally was. A better example would be forspoken be the horrible quality of that game had nothing to do with the fact the main character was black or anything and more because she was insufferable
@@BigTrog1993 as i said on his vid, it's a gay guy in denial of his attraction to hunks. No way you're not a little fruity if you want to see man that badly
This guy misses the days of manly, muscly, shirtless sweaty men with guns and explosions everywhere so badly and feels his masculinity is in danger when seeing cute little 2d games, most heterosexual guy on the planet
My Dad used to work for rockstar games as a programmer/game tester when the first GTA games were coming out and he said it was the most toxic work enviorment he's been in. He left because of it. From what I've been told by some of his work stories there were no women working there.
God this guy is horrible. I do agree that currently games are focusing way too much on inclusivity while ignoring the quality of the product, and the market is so unsure with ruthless backers ready to pull funding at any moment if you don't satisfy their agenda, but god damn. Why do you need to sound like Andrew Tate? We are supposed to bring balance, with unforced incusivity and manliness, not just going straight into a sweatfest of people afraid of loosing their undenyable heterosexuality.
this guy would have an epileptic seizure if he found out someone doesnt want to play a game where all you do is shoot bullets, "you want to play minecraft???????///??//?? NO GUNS??/?? YOU WANT TO FARM WHEAT? TO THE GALLOWS!!11!!!1!!" like damn gang just lemme play non-shooters in peace
if it aint got A big buff sweaty WHITE MAN with blonde hair and blue eyes shooting HIS AR-15 while a petite blonde hair blue eyed woman fucking creams herself while holding his arm ITS WOKE SHIT AND I DONT WANT A FUCKING PART IN IT
Calls Elden Ring an example of not woke, forgets Rykard had a gay lover, Mohg has a male consort, and there are not one, not two, but THREE girlboss matriarchs (Caria - Golden order - Nox) Calls RDR2 an example of not woke, forgets that Bill is the most subtle gay character in all of gaming history and went to jail for deviancy Calls the Wolfenstein games an example of woke for having black women and lesbians, forgets the Nazis destroyed a sexual research institute first in the book burnings I think this guy knows at least one thing btw
Not woke doesn’t mean a complete absence of homosexuality. It means that identity politics isn’t at the center of everything. Did you like the new saints row reboot? That’s a woke game
@@Erucus Saint’s Row wasn’t a shit game because it was woke. It was a shit game because of it’s numerous bugs, horrible dialogue, and bad gameplay among other things. I don’t call Starfield an awful experience because you can change genders, I called it an awful experience because you have to change genders in order to fix an extremely common bug that causes the gun to jam. The core gameplay loop and story of SR has nothing to do with identity politics, other than the identity of being a gang who kills people for money.
No if these people called successful games woke no one would agree with them, so just call already failed games woke and get easy views from all the sheeple agreeing with them.
@@pineapple7024 No Saints Row was shit because it was woke it killed of all the crazy humor on top of being a shit game. It was not saints row anymore it was just a shit game that took its title ^^
@@NorthInium Compare these two lines of dialogue between the games: “That gets the blood pumping... TO MY LOINS!!! OH!!!” vs “Big, giant, sweaty hanging horse testes, just swinging in the goddamn breeze, knocking back and forth like a pair of motherfucking clappers in a giant, horseflesh crotchball.” The second one is arguably more openly offensive, but it’s also genuinely the worst dialogue I’ve ever read and made me cringe hearing and reading it. The first one is a joke using implication, timing, delivery, and that’s why it’s better. While their content is similar, one is clearly written by people who know how to write, not by “anti-woke counterculturalists” or whatever nonsense you you deceive yourself into believing. In fact, “lol so random” comedy is more rooted in some idiot playing Johnny Rebel while I’m trying to clutch a 1v3 bomb plant on CT side than the “woke brigade”
good example, AS a middle eastern arab that looks like what u just pictured , my fav show is DARK and if the cast was all mixed and diverse and i was represented , that would ruin my fav show. the reason it was soo good is because it felt real. it felt like a germen show. and i loved it.
The Gay Situation Is Insane.
The Situation Is Gay
The Gay is Situation
The Situation Gay
The Situation Crazy is Gay
Ok that one got me lmao
Notice how the PS5 is immune to this due to having no games to begin with
I was told I'm gay because I was arguing against him, LMAO
i wish i could be so braindead that i was saying the same joke for 5 years
Genuine gem
@@bimblor7945 its a fact, not a joke
@@I_H_M_NWhen you regurgitate the same fact every day then it becomes annoying. It ain't even funny anymore
As a gay man, I am incredibly upset to see that all the big muscly men I edge to have disappeared in media
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I've seen this guy before. I checked out one of his other videos and within the first couple of minutes, he calls a gay people "satanic devil worshippers". at that point, I couldn't take him seriously anymore. I won't deny that there is a lot of garbage games getting released now that also tend to be progressive. but that bit genuinely left me laughing out loud.
the worst part is that I can get behind some of what he says. but I think I agree with him for different reasons. he says, "it's woke, liberal, satanic garbage getting injected into video games." I say it's greedy corporations prioritizing revenue and player retention rather than fun.
Straight man talking about how much he loves men and wants more men
He may just want to see more muscular men 😔
I want big muscles, not twinks >:(
Nothing more straight than enjoying the bulging muscles of a real man and just wanting more of it.
We should strive for more attractive men and women in all entertainment medias its crazy how the trend is the opposite. Oil them up
Lara Croft, Bayonetta, 2B, Zoey, Samus Aran, Jill Valentine? Nah fuck that shit I'm straight.
pyro killed masculinity
Pyro ate masculinity
Pyro inflated femininity
facts
Thank God he ain't Masculine.
As a Masculine Man who smashes Femboy Bussy, I approve of Pyro.
He slayed masculinity
I don't care if they are I just want games to stop shoving battle passes , live service, and microtransactions down our throat
Down your throat you say. Sounds pretty gay 😏
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Shoving down your throat
@@Mr.ChrisCartoonzyou good bro, r u hungry or smt?
I'm gay, and I hate having all that you mentioned AND all the DEI pandering trash shoved down our throats.
Holy shit how do you turn a 13 minute video into an hour and twenty minutes, pyro is truly the slop master.
I like discussion around this tbh
He genuinely has to have some kind of issue, like literally, not even overexhaturating, every 1 sec he pauses the video.
@@fus3n ADHD
@@fus3n atleast he's actually adding conversation to the reaction, which I prefer over staring blankly at the screen for the whole vid and saying "thanks for watching with me cya"
@@fus3nbro if you just want him to do the Hassan piker special just watch the video it’s self
It's like absolutely NO ONE knows the difference between correlation and connection anymore
The spread of conspiracy thought has made any and all problems able to be drawn back to a grand cabal who is making your life worse, specifically because they hate "people like me.".
Maybe also a fallout of people wanting to be victims (like this guy) even though the only hardships they have to hang their baggage on is being a gamer who got made fun of for playing to many FPS games and not going outside enough.
@@Thobeian I love when people who have a worldview that consists of identifying victim and opressor groups all day call others wannabe victims.
@@Thobeian, Unfortunately people will find literally anything to blame their problems on other than themselves.
@kuppa391 oh like you are, right now?
@@ThickRedPaste Show me where I identified a victim group or identified as a victim?
Blames "fat liberal women" shows photo of mostly skinny women.
literally all the games he chose for masculinity were war games
i mean thats where most of it shines right
There is nothing gay in the military, just ask the navy. Or find a marine and ask a battle buddy for a dipstick check
Because war is COOL and NOT gay
I ❤ war, but I would never ever ever ever ever ever enlist, moment
@@wootskathere’s always been gay people in war
Are Games Becoming Too Skinny ?
twinks
🤣🤣🤣
💀💀💀
@@jakubfuntal8628 twinks
Jokes aside they really are. Compare old Tomb Raider to new Tomb Raider or Star Wars Outlaw
10:38 “ there’s just so many games that look GAY now…” 💀
Fellas, is it gay to simulate trains?
ok maybe that came out wrong.
Explain yourself?@@CaptainKolza
its true
you can tell the lgbt style at a glance
@@CaptainKolza To be fair, looking at the number of DLCs for Train Sim World 4... I'm pretty sure the devs want to fuck me, regardless of my gender... and that is pretty fucking gay...
That game has 2300€ worth of dlcs ffs
@@CaptainKolza Yes. It's even cringe. Sim with real models like a true Chad Thundercok.
If a gay character is outwardly gay its pushing an agenda, if its a subtle reveal through hidden clues they are turning straight characters gay, its a lose lose situation, its like to some people there needs to be a lore reason why someone is black or gay, as those people don't just exist irl.
That doesn't work for some games. Look at Cyberpunk 2077. The one blatant transgender person in a game all about swapping body parts and cyborgs, is (afaik) the only time you'll see the transgender flag, slapped on the back of the same transgender character's truck, which you can eventually unlock to drive it, and many people are confused as to why transgenderism still exists in the world of cyberpunk. This was definitely an "inclusive, in your face" moment IMHO, while the logic behind it made no sense.
@@ThePimpinator I don't know cyberpunk's lore behind body augs and how gender works there since I never played it, I'm more so commenting how for some there needs to be a lore reason why someone is gay, like they can't just have a world where some people happen to be gay.
@@QWERTYUIOP-zo8xmthink alot of people simply just don't realize exactly how many people are queer in real life, if they're brought up in a conservative area obviously they'll see less of it since more people are closeted there. I just think it's odd how many people throw a fit as soon as games starts to cater not only them but also to other groups of people. There are "manly" and "for the boys" characters in "gay" games like overwatch, but they're so blinded by the canonical queer characters that they can't enjoy themselves 💀💀💀
@@ThePimpinator How would it make no sense? Not everyone in that world can afford full augmentation and even if they could plenty of people still choose to stay organic.
Yeah, gay people are rare. We don't need them in media. The end.
"I hope this is nuanced and balanced take" is the most insane phrase ever uttered by any man with a gamer gate video open on their screen
Only thing i can say is that being a straight male pyro fan is VERY difficult sometimes.
Yep
Pyro really be challenging you guys. Can't blame you either
real pyro is so weak its insane
Straight man watches Pyro react to a vid specifically targeting women and gay people: "I must be the victim!"
@@edeffectsNot targeting them, the points he makes in the video talks about how the market has become over saturated with games that appeal to minorities, and how less games appeal to just boys in general, the main market gaming started out in. He’s not targeting the minorities, he’s looking at companies and their “inclusive” behavior.
havent seen the video yet but i hope he mentions how masculinity and homosexuality can go well together just play the ballad of gay tony
true
he does not :< he agreed with it for the most part :
Spoiler: he doesn't.
Instead he just sees a woman with dyed hair and proceeds to lose his mind.
@@wisemage0
You mean unlike the lezzos with the dyed hair, who are well adjusted members of g*y society?
No shit, huh?
if Ballad of Gay Tony came out today you'd get all these ragebait channels doing the "GTA HAS GONE WOKE" "GTA IS DEAD", and I don't mean fully, the smarter ones wouldn't do that because they don't wanna embarrass themselves trashing a good game, just like how you don't see a lot of these channels go after good but woke Shows/Games/Movies because they'll look like clowns
the amount of emphasis this guy puts on "manly men" and "masculinity" I'm beginning to think...
We need more MASCULINE, JACKED, OILED-UP men lovingly embracing each other to fight against the liberal woke wokeness.
no way, not the average homophobe being in the closet himself. almost explains why they talk about nothing else.
Yes they gay
We want the gay gay not lesbian gay
Ah yes, the ol’ reliable “he must be closeted”
this is the exact type of dude who loves Spartans until he realizes how gay they actually were
Conservatives hipocrasy is not talked about enough
I heard that Romans being gay is over reported because it was just Romans being petty and calling prominent figures they didn't like being gay in the ancient text. Based honestly
@@SmoresPizzagay and trans people preying on kids aint talked about enough either xd
@@Ar1AnX1x Actually, fun fact, historically ancient Greece was nowhere near as Gay as people say, so much so that it actually was seen as a homophobic era: the majority of homosexual activity was partaken in by the rich nobility (who always were allowed to get away with things).
The idea that ancient Greece was a gay progressive time comes from a progressive historian wildly mischaracterizing certain Greek stories and artworks as depicting homosexual relationships and activities, including pederasty (you know, the one with the little lads that is illegal nowadays), and furthermore claiming these were seen as positive.
In reality, the ancient Greeks even had slurs for homosexuals. And no. It was not based on whether you were a top or a bottom. Being a bottom was seen as worse, but being a top was still terrible in their eyes.
Greece was a homosexual paradise as long as you don't open a history book
So he's saying old games were better because it had men in it. Not because they were good, or had amazing combat, or that the characters were well written, nope it was good because it was about men.
Sounds pretty gay ngl
he is spitting tho men are better then women i'm not gay just it's woke by the left to push women in for no reason
Games have always been gay have you not played cod zombies?
PFP is tuff m'pal.
Richtofen. >->
Richtofen would definitely argue with this dude, pinnacle of Zest.
“I don’t know wether I should spit or swallow” -Ed Richtofen
Pyro gay
I feel this argument is so nitpicky because every single game he's mentioned literally has way more masculine characters than not but when 1 feminine male is introduced its suddenly all masculinity is being killed.
Also game playerbases are way more diverse now its not just a sausage fest anymore
Game devs are more diverse. They started hiring more of these people and they like designing characters and stories around gay shit pretty much
I liked the sausage fests more because I am gay
@@baguls8084only valid argument
A diverse cast of characters is always nice. One of my favorite casts is baldurs gate 3 and elden ring, both games have such interesting and unique characters that aren't just manly white guy
Literally was thinking "is this guy stuck in 2006 or something?" Games aren't the nerdy weird guy thing anymore. Everyone plays them. And some games will not be catered to his love for war games with guns and beefy, strong, sweaty, white men.
Bad writing does not mean woke
Edit: if you say that all 'woke' is bad writing then you are completly missing the point of what I am trying to say. Just because a AAA studio has a poorly written gay character that does not mean they are inserting their leftist agenda and turning the fricking frogs gay.
it doesn't have to be woke to be badly written but it is badly written if it is woke
the consistent pattern is noticable
@@Mondoness not really most things in general are consistently bad or mid which goes for literally everything ever because most people are lazy
@@sandersGG You're saying most things . The topic is video games. And the consistent pattern of poor writing is noticeable when there are hamfisted identity politics involved.
@Mondoness bruh what you typed out effectively is bad writing is bad when it's bad your correct bad games that are written in a bad way are consistently bad also what data are you deriving this from because identity politics has been in games for long ass time since it's conception
Wanting more buff men in games sounds kinda gay ngl
He has internalized gayness. Let OP come out of his closet slowly.
"So many women, I want more BUFF MEN to look at"
nah
@@afunnypootis heavy is the exception and the rule
wanting men to look like men is gay💀
I love how he can't actually explain why having more biracial, gay, trans, and neurodivergent rep in games is outright bad, because its not that which makes them bad. It's the identity politics, the lack of substance behind any of these characters, no matter how inclusive they are or are not. Games have always had these sorts of issues, just not with the level of rainbow and pink washing we see now.
There are too many games made by queer and bipoc people to count readily, and for every single Saints Row reboot shitshow that comes out there's going to be at least two more Celestes, Ultrakills, Night in the Woods, etc.
the numbers says it all lmao... and yeah its bad when its straight up propaganda but ill people cant clearly see them self so they would not see the bigger picture :)
"neurodivergent" just means crazy. And ya it's bad to normalize crazy. This shouldn't be controversial. And goes for the t word
@@thc_freebaser womp womp
@@thc_freebaser i wonder why Rome fell hm and i wonder who was in power well ofc its the same group of people
@@juliusunreal who was in power?
the video ends at 1:19:14
thank you so much, i was wondering when it ended
Doing God's work 🙏
Cant wait!
No way bro!
God bless ya
calling "cutsie" games gay is crazy, like you'd think he'd call it feminine or some shit but no, only men play video games and if you like pink you're gay
I think this guy hasn't left his room since gears of war 3 came out and thinks that only big sweaty manly men play games lmao
Oh yeah, you know Kirby. Totally gay.
@@blackadder5346 he wasn't like this originally, his channel was originally an Xbox fanboy kinda channel, then he flipped few months back and all of a sudden turned into a conservative grifter, he even went on and started deleting his old videos where he was praising games with LGBT stuff
women and children are peak gay
Fun fact pink used to be a masculine colour.
My inner history buff cringed when he mentioned how only men fought in wars. Bro they've got a list of several hundred soldiers who dressed as men and fought in the US Civil War those are the ones who were found out, Romans hated fighting Celtiberian tribes because women would fight to the end decreasing the amount of spoils, when the enemies of the Mongols would try launching an ambush on the baggage train they would find out that Mongol women were just as ready for battle as the men were. The list goes on and on.
When push comes to shove, women will fight men in wars. I just hate this idea that games have to be EXCLUSIVELY masculine. Games can be just cool.
@@Sheridan2LTthey try but look what happened in nanking they rlly didnt stop nun
@@07W 1 bad example out of dozens of successful ones shows you're nit picking. Keep trying though little man, and I hope your day at preschool goes good.
@@07W there are many instances of women fighting and being successful, one of them would be how Order of the Hatchet got created, look it up its actually interesting
Another thing, something tells me that TH-camr didn't know/learn about how prevalent and significant the homosexuality and bisexuality in ancient Greece and ancient Rome were.
This is why I can't take his opinions seriously, he's so hilariously pathetic.
"Nooo! I want to see sweaty muscular men on my screen at all times! I don't want woman in my games!" Bro is too big of a fan of muscular men 🤨
hey, don't shame him for that bara kink!
If he can't goon to the woman it's apparently thr worst thing in the world
@thefatbob3710 Women? This guy obviously goons to men with how much he wants masculine men on his screen
"I don't like this, therefore I secretly love it" is the lamest mental gymnastic move ever. So I guess you are secretly a Nazi then, because you "hate them" so much? See how stupid this logic is?
That guy's video is literally besieged fortress syndrome. He picks the singular gay examples from the mass of masculine content.
And the way he undermines women in gaming... women were making games literally from day one, greatest games had women working on them.
I hate the narrative. Overwatch has Soldier 76 and Reinhardt. Every game doesn't need to be like Gears of War where every single character would be a top 1 NFL prospect based on their build alone. The ESG thing I'm slightly familiar with and could hold some weight. I do think times are changing. But just because something (inclusivity and diversity) is prevalent, doesn't mean masculinity is bad
Am I being dumb or didn't they actually make Soldier gay for some reason?
@@lutkuhuuli586He is. He is also manly and the exact type of character the guy in the video wants.
@lutkuhuuli586 see I played OW and didn't know this, thanks for correcting me 😭😭 reaper isn't gay too right? Cause he's my next example. And there's also Doomfist!
@@dahma3721 Yeah neither of them are gay
Trust me, the guy wants to see sweaty men in tactical gear all the time, he just loves men and masculinity alot, like so much, he wants to see more MANLY men in games not women
As a gay man, I'd like to apologise to the gaming community for ending all games simply by being born
Please call 1800-HOMO for a full refund on all games
well if you're gay then you didn't ruin it when you were born but when you were molested
SHAME‼️‼️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️😤😤😤😤
Fix yourself
@@gamerdrache6076you ain't cool
@@the_seer_0421 never said i was
His opinion is immediately invalidated by the fact that he thinks gay is the opposite of masculine that’s just ignorance
This irony of this statement is that it's not him who thinks being gay is the opposite of masculine, it's the "progressive" writers who think this way, and he's simply calling this out.
while true i dont think ive rly seen masculine gayness in games ngl
It's because he's secretly a bottom and can't find a top
@@kibbylolfuse in apex, a game he mentioned, is pansexual and also a manly man lol
I don't think there is a thing more masculine than two dudes kissing. Literally no room for women
Andy pants is so damn immature he’s going to any small channel criticizing him to call them either gay, crossdressers, or “beta”. This is apparently a 40 year old man with a wife and kids. He’s also the same guy known for having a channel where he constantly shills and fanboys for xbox
Also funny that you don’t see him here! It’s almost like he’s afraid of talking shit to a big channel…
Also it’s ridiculous that he said Saints Row 2022 was bad because of “gay devs”, it’s bad because the publisher Deep Silver vastly limited the freedom of Volition’s devs and writers and pushed a certain direction on them. They even made them use teal as the game’s main aesthetic color instead of purple in the marketing. The original direction they wanted to go for was something like Saints Row 2, but Deep Silver wanted a quirky, “relatable” story about broke post-college dudes who drink mimosas and friendship. Also, wait til he finds out that SR2 had a gender slider and let you make trans characters lol
Also he acts like Elden Ring had giant droves of people trying to cancel it. Wait til he finds out how many LGBT fans the game has…
Also, Pyro Saints Row 2 stream when?
Just got to the end and he unironically did "I drew you as the wojak and me as the chad" it's so over
Me at the missinformation competition and my opponent is a gamer
😭😭💀💀
I always like how these types of youtubers always tend to ignore the fact that Baldur's Gate 3 was GOTY despite it being pretty gay
@@roberto8442you think Baldur Gate 3 is fucking OVERWATCH? and it was good, it just went to shit.
@@roberto8442 overwatch was a live service that slowly went to shit from a combination of neglect and poor decision from blizzard (aka overwatch 2) long after it won GOTY. Baldur's Gate 3 isn't ever gonna degrade from its peak because it is already a complete game and isn't live service.
@@roberto8442 overwatch got goty back in 2016, back when it was actually good. Your thoughts on the game awards don’t mean anything because overwatch only got objectively worse way after it won the game awards
@@roberto8442Overwatch got GOTY because it was good.
It just so happens that it's a live service game so it got bad afterwards.
That doesn't mean the award was wrong. After all, it's "Game of the YEAR" and OW was kinda peak back then when it recieved the GOTY.
Baldur's Gate got GOTY for the same reason - it's simply the thing people agreed was the best that year.
There's no difference in quality argument to be made, unless you really don't like a certain game but that's taste.
Who gives a shit about that award lmao
I couldn't care less about a character's sexuality, but many game studios think that diversity can replace writing. Many companies think that being gay isn't a single attribute, but rather an entire personality that should be the crux of a character, and that is the problem.
I think one character that's personality is literally just being gay but is actually written well is Bernie from GTA 4.
Im not going to go into full detail but basically in the beginning the protag is trying to track down the man who sold his unit out and you spend most of the 1st part of the game trying to track down this man who from the protag's personal experience viewed him as being one of the manliest and intimidating soldiers in the Yukoslovian army. Once the protag confronts Bernie, you find out he became super feminine and openly gay and we don't know why until Bernie reveals he wasen't the one who sold the unit out and when he directs the protag to the real betrayer he lets down his mask briefly and became super menacing before repressing his trauma and going back to himself.
For the rest of the game he's just a regular dude who's super femmine and is openly gay thus his personality just being "im gay" but I thought that was pretty deep especially since you do jobs for Bernie since him masking his trauma also made him reject violence despite being just as skillful and hardened as the protag.
Yeah, people are themselves, not their labels
Identity politics have really gone too far on that front
@@witext People are usually deeper than their labels but it's like mainstream media is allergic to not make every lgbtq person have colored hair and the ability to have the most unnecessary dialogue. It's honestly damaging to these communities when we're literally just people.
Capital G Gamers will complain even if it's mentioned offhand and has no bearing on the character or story, because le woke
True but that is bad writing not "woke" or whatever. These people are being disingenuous when they frame it that way instead of acknowledging their own biases.
0:36 it’s really just that bro
I feel that it's pretty telling what his stance is on this stuff when he uses so many buzzwords. "Woke Mob", "LGBT Mafia", referring to non-LGBT men as "normal men", etc. It reeks of online echo chambers that want to pin all the woes of modern gaming on "Wokeness". I don't think shoehorning diversity into games after they've already been written is a good idea, but it's hard to take the guy seriously when his entire video sounds like an incel's long-winded post in a gaming subreddit.
There's definitely a conversation to be had here. But the guy is an insufferable extremist
There definitely can be a conversation but these people are so far up their own ass to actually talk
The problem with conversations nowadays. You can’t make a discussion without some vocal minority twisting it into an agenda against a group of people.
None of them have learned anything from the constant racism and bigotry and it shows
Yes in my opinion, diversity is a bit forced in games now but you can clearly tell the guy that made the video is such an incel.
🤓☝ "Remember when games had MASCULINE man with HOT BLONDE GIRLS and blue eyes, games these days are so WOKE".
Extremely based? I agree
That's the annoying thing about gamers like this. Is there something to be said? Yeah. Are you the one to say it? Obviously not. But they think they're right because a bunch of teenagers who are still operating on "girls are nice to look at, but they talk too much" gave them kudos.
13 min video to 1hour 19 min is crazy holy yapatron
I mean the OP crams a lot of bad takes into one video with almost no context or elaboration. It's very dense in its nonsense.
> "why are video games le gay"
> uses army of two for straight
ok buddy
> two men fighting together in a co-operative game
> must be gay! haha lol because 2 men =gay?!
braindead
wait idk anything about that game explain
They definitely explored eachother
Sounds like he didn't hate gay, he just hate twink and he want more big bear men in his game lol
> Does he (AndyPants) know?
topkek
This guy probably watches Little Dark Age war edits and think they are unironically the coolest shit lol
Those edits are so cringe lmao
bro really sees the trollface in the dark smiling and thinks "yeah this is hard as fuck"
Ah yes, blaming a group of people for the faults of big corpos. Truly a, very informed, non-ignorant statement.
And even if they're not good games in general right now, older "manly games" can still provide hours of fun. Look no further than ARMA3, Squad or whatever.
Imma be honest, when that video popped up on my timeline, i clicked on it and closed it like 30 seconds in
i watched it all cuz to me it screams "gay man in denial that he wants to get destroyed by a hunk" energy
@@martinthedrainedsedlak that.. is so real
Based.
"there's just so many games that look gay now" so if a game isn't a gritty shooter with a highly mascular main protagonist the game is gay? Is bro ok?
He wants the piss filter back
@@mlgcactus1035I want the piss filter back
@@ThePimpinator I will piss on you instead
Yeah he basically called any game with a unique and colorful artstyle gay, the way he speaks makes him seem like he's stuck in 2012
Apparently racing games, sports games, puzzle games, rhythm games, RPGs and Horror games are all gays to him.
Bro is not ok.
I find it kinda funny actually that the perceived opposite to masculinity is being gay. Like what? 🤣
Plenty of gay men are very masculine.
Okay, I'm watching the video now promise
If chat didn't ask to skip the video would be 2-3 hours long
Tell me which sounds easier to believe.
Corporate writers crowbarring diversity into there games as a lazy attempt to achieve the broadest audience possible in order to help recoup the unbelievably bloated development time and budgets of modern games, with said budgets also resulting in projects so insanely risk adverse that the games all become stale, repetitive and boring. So much so that some people, looking for any excuse decided to blame the increased diversity as the cause rather than this simply being the logical endpoint of demanding infinite growth from the gaming industry.
OR some sort of conspiracy to ruin games by a group with a "woke agenda" because of what? Spite against their own audiences? Shadowy investment money?
Some people would rather go full conspiracy theory than admit that the monetary/corporate system behind game development is flawed.
@@jtlego1 STOP THIS FCOMUUNISM
Bet there'll be people says "It's the commie."
What makes you think those are mutually exclusive?
@@theotherfritz2643 you are vry dummm
10:37 he has to be trolling
Nope.
forager is gay because the little dude is smiling and not fighting in a war also the game has more than 1 colour games have gone woke
@@biomageverrol
He didn't say forager. He said "many games look gay".
Oh but it's on the store page rn, so he meant that, right? The scroll wheel is also gay? Is the store gay? I mean good you are hearing him out at least, you realize colorful games look gay, otherwise you wouldn't have made the joke.
@@revisit8480 no he's pointing it out because the only real criteria this guy has for "gay" is that it has a more vibrant color palette. That's just been a trend in video games over the last decade, because in-game lighting effects have gotten better, and textures/models can be more detailed, so you don't have to have a gray tint and motion blur over everything to hide the low resolution graphics.
This whole video is an unintentional Rorschach test where everybody's weird markers for what is efeminite and "unmanly" come out in full force. And then the other 50% of the totally manly men have to justify why their chosen character isn't gay. It's like being in Middle school all over again, I hate it.
@@revisit8480 He clearly meant the games with more colorful presentations (since he's never played forager or any of the other games, he probably means those), otherwise he would've put that same Valorant clip he played like 15 times in the video of the black guy
8:39 “Everything is gay” *shows a man of color with no specific sexual orientation*
Sees feminine man - "He MuSt Be GaY."
"Man of color"
Bro ur afraid to miscolorize him but not to misgender him
We're so cooked 😭
@@christiecrispie8351 “of color” means someone with darker skin??????
Dense individual @@christiecrispie8351
@@christiecrispie8351bro doesn't know what "Of color" means
I don't wanna sound offensive, but if you wanna make a gay character interesting and likable, don't make being gay their whole personality. Give them depth.
Also I bet he is the average Reddit edgelord that argues with everyone in the comment section
Publishers think making someone gay is enough and won't try any harder to make them interesting.
Nah as a queer trans person that ain’t offensive that’s just real; why does every queer trans whatever character have to be a damn theatre kid personality
@@jackieAZdiversity quota, they do this to make progressives buy their game, I should make extensive note, what I mean by is that they want progressive gamers to buy, once progressive gamers just don't buy those games, probably because they're rushed and soulless, they will just stop, they do what gets them money, line go up.
okay but when was the last character like that, now a day anti woke activist hate game like bg3 because there a drag characters in act 3
You think anyone has ever bought a game just because they had a gay character? I don’t think so, they add diverse characters so they can have a diverse audience play the game and all feel like they can see themselves in a character or see a character like them, instead of the basic white straight man as every character under the sun. There are lots of companies that do try to act progressive by saying “look they’re the first gay people in our show” and then they get 3 seconds of screen time total
"We need to bring back MASCULINITY and NONGAY in games like it's 2000s!"
TF2: "Get behind me doctor!"
"Charge me!"
"Ohhh"
"Ohhhhh"
"Obhhhhhh"
"Medic!"
"YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
"Good times!"
How did bro make a 13 minute video into a 1 hour long movie?!
2:52 Halo Infinite was bad because 343 Doesn’t make good games
based
SO BASED
Is your belly becoming too inflated?
Obsessed 😭
@@nanafundesu inflate me
I guess my 15 years of gaming are invalid because i like men huh
you don't like men u just pretending, you're probably a virgin
@@ПётрПавловский-щ1х what am i
@@ПётрПавловский-щ1х Are you the CEO of gay or something?
@@Verchilling ...
@@ПётрПавловский-щ1х guy thinks hes a mysterious anime character
I got recommended the guy's video about games being gay and assumed it was satire from the thumbnail alone and the first minute. Realised pretty soon after it wasn't though lol
yeah, same. After watching a pretty good TH-cam rec video called "Why are fighting games so gay", I got this guy's video too, and I thought it would be an interesting and nuanced conversation talking about industries trying to push a standard or whatever...
nope, the guy himself and the comments ended up being an echo chamber of "masculine men only", "omg someone speaks for all of us", perpetuating LGBTQ/wokeness/gay as an "us vs them" scenario
idk man, one other guy in the comment section said it best: There's a conversation to be had here, but the guy's an extremist
these "why situation le happen" vids are so surface level analysis nowadays. literally not even bothering to research, just pull out their opinion as an argument for every take accompanied by green sample text
Only an issue if you play shitty live service games that companies want to charge you 5x the price of your average game to continue progressing in. Just play indie/single player games and ignore shit online games.
The guy won't touch indie games because they "look gay"
@@yaboi7774 Probably tbf xD. He needs to play some Fear & Hunger or Jupiter Hell & realise masculinty is still very much intact in the modern gaming industry.
That's the issue, OP thinks indie games are also woke or "leftist propagandas".
That explains why 90% of the games he showed as examples in his videos were about military and war, and that they were all produced by AAA studios.
He's beyond salvation. He's stuck in 2005-2010 era.
@@Piccolo-The-Namekian Look he's just getting old and the world is leaving him behind. I also remember playing medal of honor and wish they made those, 2000's were the best for games due to the mbeing more experimental.
i love how pyro says we haven't gotten a good AAA single player game in the last ten years and then doesn't mention Elden ring or Baldur's gate 3
I think the real issue is that there's so many games that it's too hard to pick one: so it ends up feeling like there's no games.
BG 3 isn’t AAA game
It absolutely ended up being a AAA @@Kongongongg
@@Kongongongg backed by tencent
Never play Elden Ring, heard community is pretty toxic and you are expect to min max, not allow to be caster cause they are weak from I am told by Dark Souls fans
i don't think blud actually left 2012 lmao
He got to 2017 and said fuck it I'll give up
I was told I'm gay because I was arguing against him, LMAO
Sounds like a leftist tactic, "you dont like woke, therefore you are closet"
you probably are
@@awagnow hear this? youre....GAY!!!!!
this guy transforms a 13 minute video to a 1 hour video
The thing that bothers me is that in games such as fallout and cod have a military/apocalyptic aesthetic and then they have bunny outfits and movie themed skins.
Edit: i meant fallout 76 not the old ones.
This is real, they need to pick an aesthetic ffs
Fallout 1, 2, 3 and NV were baller.
None of the CoDs I like have bunny suits either. I never drank an energy drink they shilled either.
Oh you mean right, as in: New games. No shit, huh?
Fallout only gives you that with mods (especially the bunny outfits part) and CoD just tries to imitate Fortnite with endless crossovers and collaborations in order to get soyboys pay for bundles
How does this affect your enjoyment of the game? I don’t like them because they border on $20 for a skin bundle and don’t even sell the skins separate but didn’t we always want more customization in games? If someone wants to be Nicki Minaj in Battle royale or mp let them be lol
I never seen bunny outfits in a Fallout game, maybe with mods, but vanilla? No.
Also why pick Fallout?
"games that look gay" Wtf does that mean lol
Games with colors, people smiling and minorities, apparently.
@@ender4101 Ah yes "minorites" aka "progressive caricatures of certain types of people who's only contribution to the story is merely to just exist for the sake of token diversity points"
@@ender4101 Ahah nice joke.
Pink le bad
Way too colorful like fortnite and way too much gay sht.Nobody hates black people if they are put into story that makes sense.
ah a classic pyro move, extending a 13 minute video to 1 hour and 19 minutes
As a straight male who is in love with old 2000s video games, I must say I always appreciate well written female protags as much as well written male protags
I don't ever care about games that aggressively include LGBT stuff, I'm not gonna support it, but I'm not gonna go around and call everything gay or wish we could have more female characters whose only purpose is to be the sex object and the male protag be more dominant
I just want a game like Saints Row 2, the main target audience is male but can be unisex with the inclusion of female character option, and yet they still didn't hold their punches with the theme of the entire game
Or better yet, just a female protag that doesn't have to be entirely written around LGBT, I'm tired of game devs trying to be so diversed and try too hard to please everyone, but not focusing on what makes a game good and what makes a story good
I mean they kinda have to, really. I feel like I wouldn't have any problem with LGBTQ+ characters with good writing. Like LGBTQ+ characters written with their sexuality in mind come out so well.
Dude you literally said it perfectly.
It's fine when it's good writing, but so much of it is just terrible.
You're more reasonable and rational-minded than AndyPants.
While I'm mildly progressive as I got older, I'm super indifferent when it comes to the LGBT elements in video games.
I want nice writings, good plot, likeable characters, awesome soundtracks and amazing gameplays. That's it.
If I can't have all of those requirements met in a video game, that is fine too. I can appreciate the remaining "saving graces" of a flawed game at the very least.
The diverse representations in video games don't bother me. It is tokenism, a.k.a "shallow diversity" in video games that bother me. That is when I can tell the developers (and their executives) went with their pathetic D.E.I approach for their games. That is when we know they're desperately pandering to a certain crowd but failing miserably anyways.
balanced and grounded
I wish extremism(both left and right and all other directions) and radicalism gets toned down in culture
@@meodrac Oh no centrists are the worst, literally would rather hide their head in the sand than face problems
Funny how these anti woke guys never seem to say a game is "too conservative" or similar. It only goes one way, back to 1950s values.
games can't be too conservative
@@awagnowA game is too conservative if it something like a big franchise that pretty much refuses to change anything and keeps the gameplay always same... Call of duty..
@@pipopoikapelaa5468 That's not what conservative means in this context, gameplay isn't a point in this discussion
@@awagnow you either don't know what these political terms mean, you're a conservatoid yourself, or you're a troll.
whichever it is, you're not worth it.
That might have been a meaningful criticism if such a game actually existed. If you think it does, I'd love to hear some examples.
Blackrock don't "own" the assets they handle/manage them for the companies, but that doesn't mean they don't have an influence.
obviously they have influence; they're an investing company worth billions but to act like they are the only ones in control is idiotic
@@keyan1219they're only one, my theory is that a lot of these companies want the image of the right side of history, like marten Luther or Abraham Lincoln, they want to seem progressive and Forward thinking so people trust them, getting rid of politics, these companies treat the average people terribly, they're exploiting their workers and ripping off their customers, because no government or people in power will do something about, and so they cosplay as liberator, to gain trust of the people, so they can exploit them more.
They have influence they finance a lot of games you right they don’t own anything they just pay for it
@@Noir634 "They have influence" which is exactly what I said
Literally! Blackrock is an investment firm. They own a shitload of assets because that’s their business, buying and selling stocks for their clients. Some of those clients do care about progressive values, so their rating of companies exists so that those clients can make an informed decision about their investment.
It’s not a way that Blackrock is trying to control or influence the culture, its literally just a byproduct of their business model lmao
There is a difference between natural & genuine diversity (from the 80s to early 2010s) and forced & tokenized diversity (about 2014 onwards).
Just want to let you know that this man has a wife (probably unsatisfied) and kids. He was banned from Twitter for harassing PlayStation and Pc fans due to him being a massive Xbox fanboy, just as a reminder he is in his late 30s to early 40s.
It's always those weird middle aged man who make those videos. I think they legit just cannot cope that they are getting old and just lash out in this way. Disco Elysium was onto something.
Bruh
Yeah he seems like a weirdo. I mean, it's really not like every game now is forcing you to be a flamboyant gay man or woman like he's making it out to be, most gay and LGBTQ+ characters don't make their sexuality or identity their primary focus.
That makes him a Gen-X man.
He probably has a sad pathetic life.
Oh source?
how do you think this guy would react to fear and hunger or cruelty squad
Probably pretty good because those are actual good games
@@Erucus he seems to only like somewhat normal shooters
If fallout new vegas was released today people like this guy would be complaining about having 2 gay companion characters
Gay doesn’t mean “not masculine”.
*Clears throat*
Have you ever
*cracks knuckles*
Played anything beyond tripple AAA slop ?
*cartwheels out*
In honesty, there are soo much actual gems out there. You probably have couple of tripple A slop of your choosing set to release in 1 or 1,5 years so in the meantime, instead of grinding your frontal lobe in multiplayer of your chosing, just grab 60 bucks and browse indie section to buy whatever makes you curious. Play Lacuna and when Sunless Skies, they are amazing.
The fact that AAA games are always slop is the issue, it wasn’t like that before the early-mid 2000s
@@guyferrari8124 No, it was always like that. Such is the nature of triple A. The only thing that has changed is your perception and your *belly* is full of Assasins creeds, CoDs and Far Cries.
Don’t confuse nostalgia with memories. I can play Mafia The city of Lost Heaven from beginning to end but my friends call that game shit.
13 minute video made into 1 hour explenation
The dude from the original video sounds hella sad. Like dude needs to go out and touch some grass. XD
The fact that this video (the Andypants one) had such a positive like/dislike ratio is mind boggling to me- the whole video all he does is just blame LGBTQIA people and women for ruining masculinity in games- like- this is just unfiltered bigotry with no proof, and all of the comments are agreeing- where's the proof? "GUYS IT'S THE GAYS & WOMENS FAULT SAINTS ROW REBOOT WAS BAD TRUST"
good, nature is healing, also, lgbtqia? how many letters will you keep adding freakos
These type of people are beginning to come out of hiding and show their ignorance now that’s others are coming out to show their immaturity and stupidity
Khm-sauce 🤓🤓🤓
I mean that’s a pretty bad example because it literally was. A better example would be forspoken be the horrible quality of that game had nothing to do with the fact the main character was black or anything and more because she was insufferable
That comment section is an echo chamber. All the homophobes and "anti-woke" people are in there.
"liberal lgbt mafia"
my dog just go up like she heard something but i heard no noise... weird...
sleeper agent activation code
Maybe he is part of the mafia.
She was tired of this guy's bullshit
The dog knows
she sensed a disturbance in the force.
pyro looking up "[female game character] erotica" live without hiding his screen is not even the most risky thing hes done on stream
“They are heterosexual men like us” then laughs nervously he is definitely trying to not be gay and is taking it out on others
Says games are too gay
Proceeds to fellate men for an hour and 19 minutes
*13minutes 15 seconds.
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@@BigTrog1993 as i said on his vid, it's a gay guy in denial of his attraction to hunks. No way you're not a little fruity if you want to see man that badly
be gay with me pyro
I love you lets kiss
U know Bocchi exists right
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w rizz
This guy misses the days of manly, muscly, shirtless sweaty men with guns and explosions everywhere so badly and feels his masculinity is in danger when seeing cute little 2d games, most heterosexual guy on the planet
Maybe he's like the TF2 community, being extreme homo and extreme homophpbic at the same time. (edit: grammer.)
Pyro manage to squeeze a 13 minutes video into 1 hour is insane
"Video games are gay now" proceeds to glaze sam fisher
My Dad used to work for rockstar games as a programmer/game tester when the first GTA games were coming out and he said it was the most toxic work enviorment he's been in. He left because of it. From what I've been told by some of his work stories there were no women working there.
God this guy is horrible. I do agree that currently games are focusing way too much on inclusivity while ignoring the quality of the product, and the market is so unsure with ruthless backers ready to pull funding at any moment if you don't satisfy their agenda, but god damn. Why do you need to sound like Andrew Tate? We are supposed to bring balance, with unforced incusivity and manliness, not just going straight into a sweatfest of people afraid of loosing their undenyable heterosexuality.
Inclusivity and quality aren't mutually exclusive. "Too much on inclusivity" makes no sense.
@@yungmuney5903 They are, actually.
@@yungmuney5903
I mean, we do it on real life, too. Way too much focus on being progressive culturally and not progressive quality-of-life-wise
@@Arcessitorexplain
@@yungmuney5903 they are not, unless you focus on it so much you forget what your product should be
For 25 years I have used the expression "gay" about more or less anything that sucks, looks bad etc. It's an expression that never gets old.
True, insulting something or someone by calling it "gay" will never not be funny
Thank you for sharing unc
@@jameshall401you're heartless man
Notice how they were almost all gritty shooters he used as examples.
they should use these in schools for misinformation, strawmaning and cherry picking
Inclusivity isn't why AAA games are worse, it's corpo greed making bad game design decisions
The fix to this problem is just adding 50 oiled up buff men to every game very epic easy fix.
this guy would have an epileptic seizure if he found out someone doesnt want to play a game where all you do is shoot bullets, "you want to play minecraft???????///??//?? NO GUNS??/?? YOU WANT TO FARM WHEAT? TO THE GALLOWS!!11!!!1!!" like damn gang just lemme play non-shooters in peace
if it aint got A big buff sweaty WHITE MAN with blonde hair and blue eyes shooting HIS AR-15 while a petite blonde hair blue eyed woman fucking creams herself while holding his arm ITS WOKE SHIT AND I DONT WANT A FUCKING PART IN IT
Calls Elden Ring an example of not woke, forgets Rykard had a gay lover, Mohg has a male consort, and there are not one, not two, but THREE girlboss matriarchs (Caria - Golden order - Nox)
Calls RDR2 an example of not woke, forgets that Bill is the most subtle gay character in all of gaming history and went to jail for deviancy
Calls the Wolfenstein games an example of woke for having black women and lesbians, forgets the Nazis destroyed a sexual research institute first in the book burnings
I think this guy knows at least one thing btw
Not woke doesn’t mean a complete absence of homosexuality. It means that identity politics isn’t at the center of everything. Did you like the new saints row reboot? That’s a woke game
@@Erucus
Saint’s Row wasn’t a shit game because it was woke. It was a shit game because of it’s numerous bugs, horrible dialogue, and bad gameplay among other things. I don’t call Starfield an awful experience because you can change genders, I called it an awful experience because you have to change genders in order to fix an extremely common bug that causes the gun to jam.
The core gameplay loop and story of SR has nothing to do with identity politics, other than the identity of being a gang who kills people for money.
No if these people called successful games woke no one would agree with them, so just call already failed games woke and get easy views from all the sheeple agreeing with them.
@@pineapple7024 No Saints Row was shit because it was woke it killed of all the crazy humor on top of being a shit game. It was not saints row anymore it was just a shit game that took its title ^^
@@NorthInium
Compare these two lines of dialogue between the games:
“That gets the blood pumping... TO MY LOINS!!! OH!!!”
vs
“Big, giant, sweaty hanging horse testes, just swinging in the goddamn breeze, knocking back and forth like a pair of motherfucking clappers in a giant, horseflesh crotchball.”
The second one is arguably more openly offensive, but it’s also genuinely the worst dialogue I’ve ever read and made me cringe hearing and reading it. The first one is a joke using implication, timing, delivery, and that’s why it’s better. While their content is similar, one is clearly written by people who know how to write, not by “anti-woke counterculturalists” or whatever nonsense you you deceive yourself into believing. In fact, “lol so random” comedy is more rooted in some idiot playing Johnny Rebel while I’m trying to clutch a 1v3 bomb plant on CT side than the “woke brigade”
Pyro stretching 13:15 min vid into nearly 1 n half hour slop situation is insane
good example, AS a middle eastern arab that looks like what u just pictured , my fav show is DARK and if the cast was all mixed and diverse and i was represented , that would ruin my fav show. the reason it was soo good is because it felt real. it felt like a germen show. and i loved it.
BRO MADE A 13 MIN VID TO 1:19:14 HOLY SLOP
the real question is why care? just play the game or dont
A game having stuff that doesn’t fit their agenda shivers their timbers