Hey Friends, These men asked ME to be on their podcast. Not the other way around. I am responding to THEM asking me. I engaged them in a dialogue that I felt would be better suited topics to cover. I also knew they were trolling me. I also know that Kody is behind that last email which took 5 days to send to me. Either way, I engaged to get an idea of what they were like, I never brought up Kody. Nor did I care to discuss him. They did. They are white nationalist extremists. I'm pretty sure I did fine in my dialogue and was more respectful to them than they were to me.The Men's right movement is born out of extremism. Men are not under attack. Sorry. There is no data to prove this point. And I'm not going to entertain it here. Also the theory about Y chromosome eradication is not by JORDAN Peterson. I did not call him a whackadoodle. I am not a fan of Peterson & I would assumed most of my loyal viewers know exactly why. If you like him, great. I don’t. Katie
I did leave a comment on their video which then had them ask me to be on their podcast. How does leaving a comment assume an invitation would happen. it doesn't @@sleepyandhollow.
It's funny how they always go straight to how we need to be protected by men, but they fail to mention that it's usually a man that we need protection from.
Nothing more threatening to some men is a strong woman. Women get stronger when they have to be both mother and father. Kody’s wives (except Robyn) have had to go it alone for years.
This is incredibly naive. Men are not threatened by strong women. These men were not threatened at all. They are tired of constantly being silenced and told their opinion doesn’t matter.
You have always made it crystal clear that exposing cults is all about protecting the children and women - the most vulnerable. Thank you for your work.
He is not happy the entire truth is out there and no longer hidden. You keep up the good work, kiddo! I watch and listen to you because you are factual! Thank you for being you!!!!
Secure, emotionally stable men prefer independent women. I have more education than my husband and make more money than him. I’m the boss where I work. This has never threatened my husband. He knows I love him and is proud of me. Thirty yrs and still going strong!
You obviously have a keeper.😊 I've been with my husband 29 years. My situation was exactly the same until I had an accident and became unable to work. My husband doesn't treat me any different than when I worked and made more money than he did now that I am unable to work. We are a team - equals. There's a lot of other things I do to run our lives that my husband doesn't. Men like Kody and his brothers obviously can't handle women like us, but in my opinion, they're nowhere near being "men." They're just overgrown toddlers with testicles.
Seems to be by my observations, having lived for 69 years long, that so-called macho men feel threatened by well-educated, well-informed, independent women.
Yeah I'm a couple years younger than you lived in a family with all brothers but my mom my grandmother were strong women who were valued as a person I know it's rare although I was married to a narcissist mysoginistic man I thought it was his upbringing which it partially was I thought he wanted different in the end he didn't
I’m glad that you responded to them in the way you did. You stood your ground on why you have an issue with the network and with the way things are done and how they exploit kids. I think your response was well done.
Well said, Katie! I love men too… my wonderful husband, my brothers, my 4 sons. There IS a type of man I’ve eradicated from MY life. If other women want these “men,” they’re welcome to them. They’re no longer my problem.
I saw something online a couple days ago that really hits home. It goes something like this: If you are tired of people sucking the life out of you, stop providing the straw. I am aware that removing oneself from some situations may be very difficult, but I believe it well worth the effort to give it everything you have to extricate yourself and build a new life. Christine Brown is an excellent example.
I love your email to them. Well thought out, intelligent, stating facts and not emotions, logical. They could learn a few things from you. KJ out here slaying the demons 😂
I came here to say the same thing but you worded it so nicely, so I’ll just say…..Ditto! All joking aside, that was an amazing email. Their response back to your email was so expected. I was not surprised by anything they said and I believe 100% that Kody is behind this. Keep up with your great work! We appreciate all of your hard work and I can only hope someone comes across your channel that is in some sort of a cult or similar situation and learns that #1, this is not normal and #2, there IS a way out.
It took them 5 days to respond because it took them that long to understand your email, or to find someone to explain it to them!!! They realized they more than met their match coming up against you and how bad they’d look after you got done with them!!! It would have been great to see! That one brother would be having more than usual facial tics during that podcast!🤣
Proud of you, Katie! You hit a nerve by daring to be a woman with an opinion who won't hesitate to call out their BS. That's a badge of honour- keep at it! 👍✊️💕
I have never needed a man to protect me, I in fact had to protect myself from an evil stalker, and I did. Break into my house blabber mouth and I will show you women can take care of business.
OMG they picked a fight with the wrong ‘gal’!! 😂 They were probably high-fiving each other for their ‘awesome’ response that took five days to draft, and then your response totally obliterated them. Then they ran away, probably sobbing about the mean lady. 🤣 Way to slay, Katie!! Kody talked about how he was ‘red-pilled’ in one of his cameos (referring to Christine prior to their announcement of their split) and it sickened me. How dare a woman want to be treated well?! Who the hell does she think she is?!! Comedy gold. Good job Katie. 👍😀
The bottom line is that you are a perfect example of everything that they fear. You're an educated woman who is well-spoken, who takes the time to research topics and back up claims with facts, and worst of all, you have a platform. You are not someone who can be easily dismissed or discredited. I have no doubt that they found their interaction with you very frustrating because they tried to set a trap for you and you thwarted them at every turn without giving them fodder to use in their videos or podcasts. Well done.
Haha! I can easily dismiss and discredit her. This is the first and last time I’ll watch any of her videos. She’s far too wordy, boring, assuming, declares falsely, very defensive, and simply irrational!
I think they were deeply intimidated by your solid knowledge and intelligence. I don’t think they would dare to have a debate with you and end up making themselves look foolish. Nicely done! ❤
My daughters husband is exactly like these men. He doesn’t respect her, he’s a narcissist , verbal abusive , always playing the victim and takes no responsibility. Not to mention an alcoholic. She just filed for divorce after 23 years
I couldn’t believe he blew off his child during surgery she could have died anything could have happened and he made christine work and she had to pay for it herself, every single dime!!!! WHAT KIND OF FATHER DOES THAT
I've only been watching the last few seasons. I fell away from SW years ago but I remember thinking Kody was a bit nuts, but doing his best to be a fair husband and good Dad. I'm struck now by the fact that he always looks like he can't be bothered whenever anyone else is talking and never seems to claim his children. He never calls them my or our children. It's always 'your' children. My parents are divorced and I'm fully aware of what's being implied whenever my Dad calls me 'Your Mothers Daughter', and a similar statement will come from my Mum when she's p'd off with me too. I think language matters and the language he uses to claim his kids is telling. He thinks they are solely the mothers responsibility. If he cared he would call them His kids. I bet even the car is called His car ffs.
@@user-ee1et2pm1z Then there were months and months of her going through recovery...in which he wasn't there. This was the kicker for Christine...good for her, but I wish she left when he almost let Truly (sp?) die. Why make all of those kids if you don't love them. This is just dumb.
You really held the upper hand, simply because your words were always respectful but confident and accurate. I grew up in patriarchy, but the last 10 years I stood up and won't let anyone knock me down. I felt so much of what Christine is feeling now. I am super proud of her, she had enormous courage and inner strength to get out of that humongous mess. Thank you Katie, you are the best.
Yep my answer is who birthed the men who made such things..hmmmm? Oh yeah a woman .so technically IF IT WASN'T FOR A WOMAN GIVING BIRTH TO THESE MEN NOTHING WOULD EXIST..
I am a mom of three, a big sister and a daughter... I'm not trying to be argumentative, but women cannot bring life to this world without a contribution from a man. We are 50/50 partners in conception. Yes, we carry our baby for nine months and give birth... but that is an honor, not a burden. I just wish neither side thought they were more important than the other... we are EQUALLY important.
You hit the nail on the head, it’s about control and power. They don’t want to share power or control because they are threatened by sharing control, they haven’t evolved to that level yet. They fear they will become irrelevant.
Very well said, Katie!!! I commend you on your knowledge, your articulate answers, and basically how you wrapped circles around the brothers and their lack of understanding. To be honest, it's sad and worrying that there are people in this world ( by people, i mean the brothers ) who have such such extreme views! So, thank goodness for people like you, Katie ❤ Take care!
I was thoroughly entertained by the email exchange you had with Kodster’s brothers. You were the consummate professional and you were clearly the one who was in control of that conversation. I’m very impressed with you Katie Joy. I’d be subscribing if I wasn’t already subscribed. I genuinely hope this conversation continues with these men and I hope that they realize that they have made a mistake in trying to communicate with you. And Kodster is going crazy right now trying to figure out how to “get back at you”. He doesn’t know what else to do now and I hope he spins into a lunatic episode and videos that for us who want to watch him lose control. We’ve watched this happen with him time and time again. The kids are suffering because of his behavior, yet he believes he’s right and all women are wrong. I’d be highly interested in watching him on a show called Brother Husbands. But that’s never going to happen. I’m going to continue to be impressed with the conversation you had with those guys. Well done Miss Crystal Ball. Keep up the great work!!
Katie !! Good for you , your response was eloquent and factual. No wonder they backed down having you on their podcast , they met their match and beyond 😂.
I’m a 62 year old woman, and I’m amazed at this “movement” of men crying victim. Even my father, that’s no longer with us saw through this. In the 70s, he made sure and tell me to apply for credit in my own name apart from a man. This was not something that was possible before the 70s. I’m reminded of something my father said to my brother 40 years ago. “If you have to tell people that you’re a big strong man, then you’re not. They’d know without you telling them.” The oppressor crying victim is just fear based. White men wanting to hold onto their feelings of superiority over women, people of color, and gay people. It’s so transparent, and actually shows weakness on their part.
That is so true Katie Joy. Men seeking help for depression is viewed by society as weakness. When actually getting mental is a strength!! I wish man could see that. Cuz we would have far more healthier men mentally emotionally if they sought out help not being afraid of judgment.😊
You can speak your mind which shows you are a force to be reckoned with! I believe they are frightened of you or any woman who is strong. Keep up the reporting!
Katie, I appreciate your attempt to help these two understand how patriarchy can harm women and children. However, I'm guessing you have realized that you may have wasted your time - but not totally. The response you received just proves everything you tried to explain in a very clear, professional, respectful way to two men who chose to show a glimpse of the misogyny they espouse.
I knew it was unlikely that they would change their mind, but if they are going to give me an inch, I'm gonna take a mile. I have been in contact with a former fundamentalist from the IBLP. When we started talking 3 years ago, he was heavily pro corporal punishment and very much about homeschool. He was also very unwilling to listen to anything that wasn't from like NEWSMAX. Over time, through our conversations, his opinion on corporal punishment completely changed. He also had his daughters over to his home. He then apologized to them for bringing them into a misogynistic cult and getting them involved with the Duggar Family. His daughter later confirmed the dramatic change in her father to me. So sometimes they listen
@@WithoutACrystalBallSo happy to know that. You're not only helping expose these cults and misogynists by reporting on them, you're making a difference in people's lives, perhaps saving lives in some cases.
Yes. They just proved in their replies all Katie has said. Too funny. They are not interested in looking at a different view or be educated in a woman’s view at all. They just want to show their followers how they can put another woman back in her place. I’m so glad Katie, you didn’t take the bait. Now a man would take the bait “chicken?”
I am literally laughing when the one brother spoke of equipment building on his list of things men do. Well…….I’m older and my precious Mother-in-law was an actual Rosie the Riveter during WWII. She worked in building aircraft while many of her friends worked in munitions to keep our supplies up. She had fabulous stories! So I hope that little wisdom choked going down to Cody and the brothers! What a bunch of fools!😂
Ms. Crystal Ball sounds like a good thing to me. It shows that you see things with clarity! The issues you address are not clouded. You view things and report on these things with an open, pure, and clear mind and heart. It's interesting that these men thought you would be willing to be on their podcast without question. They obviously have no insight or knowledge of who you are and what you do. Love your channel. Glad you're on the mend too.❤
If Kody's brothers are railing against men losing custody of children, they can look to Kody as the worst example. Kody should lose custody basically of all the kids
I tried to listen to their podcast just for the hell of it (I don’t agree with any of their politics) and I couldn’t get myself to listen to the whole thing. They were both so dense and boring. No wonder they get no views 😂
Katie, I found your response to them to be extremely extremely fair. I really think you came to them from a perspective of professionalism. To your credit, you are honest and lay it all out there. I just want to give you credit because you deserve to hear it. I admire you. You have strength and honor and integrity. Your videos speak volumes about your character. I guess I am just using this long winded comment to say thank you for being kind and for being the good person that you are 🥰🥰🥰❤️
@@WithoutACrystalBall Ditto! I love your commentary! The more Kody mansplains, the stupider he appears to the world. Only like minded men agree with him.
Being a bit older than you, I think my perspective may be different but still worth consideration, from my perspective there appears to be a divide going on in the world today that is essentially pitting men and women against each other. I have seen it and experienced it and I think perhaps that's the bigger issue going on here. There's an undercurrent of focusing on what each sex has done wrong to the other. There is promotion of focusing on the negative qualities and too much blame is being dished out on both sides. None of this is good and beneficial to the world we live in. We were designed to be each others mates and helpers in this life. Men have strengths and weaknesses and women have strengths and weaknesses and when brought together we balance each other out. We are stronger United. There is a dividing going on and people are becoming angry at the opposite sex. Where do you think that road goes? Men and women are different and those differences shouldn't be a wedge between us but instead a strength. Two sides of the same coin. Both needed and both equal. Let's embrace those differences and learn to appreciate them. Let us stop blaming one another for the past and learn to respect and embrace each other in the present. Just my opinion, but we need to stop and do some personal reflection before this escalates further. men and women need to stop the hate and instead love each other. Forgive. None are perfect. We all have committed wrongs. Our literal future is at stake if this hatred flourishes.
So very well said! I cringe whenever I hear the ‘buzz’ words like; equity, inclusion, diversity. Those words represents divisiveness, inequity and exclusion. The fact is, men are stronger than women; that’s an indisputable fact! We are not the same, and never will be. Because of this, there can never be true equality. A man cannot breastfeed his children - only women can. Women are nurturing; that’s been our role since the beginning of time! We should embrace our differences, and strive to be the best we can, with those differences.
I think my favorite part about this whole dialog, is KNOWING that, "Miss Crystal Ball" is taking up space in Kody's head!! Bet every night, is a sleepless one, for cootie & sobbin!! Love it!!! 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Good evening. I am a follower who is also a HS ELA teacher in the inner city. I loved reading your instagram post about this and this video. Might you be okay with me using your writing for a class debate? I loved how cleverly and succinctly you wrote your argument.
I was always taught that the man is the king of the house and I deserve to be treated like a queen. I don’t know if that is patriarchy or not but have been married almost 30 yrs. I will treat him as head of house as long as he has total respect for my opinion and thoughts. Kody has not honored his wives by treating them as queens. It’s all about respect. It’s not nor never should be about being the one in charge. Kody’s problem isn’t that he wants to be head of household, it’s he doesn’t know how to be head of household, he has no ability to learn and grow or to admit his faults. He made these woman be head of household’s then when it suited him to pull the man card he was surprised that the woman had no respect for him and his wants? Why would they care of his wants when he basically left them to do everything on there own. They earned money, raised kids and took care of their houses, what was his contribution? Looked like nothing. So basically these woman were single moms and learned to live without a husband. Kody did this but will never admit it.
You know it really scares me how much we were lied to about this show. These people have deep issues and are terrifying. TLC should be ashamed of themselves. Ty so much for all of your coverage. I watched your interview with Emily 2hrs wasn't long enough imo lol it was fascinating and I did love how you helped her tell her story. Dumb question because I'm fairly new ..did you do a similar video with Christine Decker? I would love to watch an interview like that. BTW you handled yourself extremely professionally with his brothers.
It's ironic how concerned Kody is about HIS kidneys when his daughter's kidneys were nearly destroyed, quite literally, while under his care - or rather, lack thereof. Narcissistic misogynistic AH's!
My daughter and I were cheering before you got to the third paragraph! You go girl. All 3 of my girls saw me pay bills, cook, clean, and have time to volunteer at church, school, and the American Red Cross. I would go by myself to national disaster sights, and come home and be show and tell. Now, all 3 run their households, main income, moms and have time for whatever they want. One has a Master's Degree, getting a second Master's Degree in a different course of study, and will get her Doctorate. A published author and photographer, business owners... I think we did well, quite well. ❤😊 Thank you for all that you do.
Good for you Katie! These people are absolutely pathetic & disgusting. They just wanted you to come on their show so they could rattle you and tear you down. These men are just intimidated by your strength and intelligence and want to tear you down in front of their audience, to make themselves look better.
I find it humorous that they have a problem with Katie "exploiting Kody for monetary reasons" however, don't have any problem exploiting Katie for monetary reasons. In my opinion they are two-faced bigoted males.
They are as demented as Kody. They have been severely affected by the cult of the AUB and maybe others. They seem to want to keep women as chattel and do not want to give them the respect women deserve who have worked hard to work toward equality in pay, advancement, etc. This is very sad and I think it is also dangerous to unsuspecting women or young girls that are getting groomed to be a “wife”. Congrats Katie.
Adding one more comment, I have friend that I adore and her husband is extremely abusive to her and her husband listens to podcasts about men’s rights. It makes me sad and sick. I cannot help her and have asked to help her many times. Your video is right on the money about the cruelty of the men’s movement.
I feel like that's one of the huge reasons I appreciate responses like this. Some are saying not to respond to trolls, but these guys have pretty common opinions that are dangerous. It's important to fight against it and give voice to why it's dangerous. For both men and women.
Well done Katie! Proud of you. I'm not a Robyn fan but I have to admit, I love the way she controls him totally without him knowing it! He doesn't and never will have the wherewithal to see it and neither do his dumb brothers or family. Kody is totally under Robyn's thumb and it tickles me pink! His brothers have no idea who wears the trousers and it ain't and never has been their brother Kody 🤣
@@ellen6953 ikr? She actually made him believe the moves to Vegas & Flagstaff, the OTT covid rules and buying the mansion were all his idea. Don't like her but 👏Robyn on playing Kody like an old fiddle. She sure dispensed with his 'Y' chromosome all right and he hasn't even noticed yet! 😆
@@shelleyw5951 Haha! Thanks for that - yes I remember that now! 😂...and we all know who was really behind Robyn leapfrogging over Janelle & Christine to become the legal wife with all the financial perks that go with it! Of course, Kody still thinks it was his idea! He's such a doofus! 🙄
I just cant wait for the day where she has everything she wants by using him and leaves his sorry ass. He will so deserve it. If anyone can screw him out of every possible cent and item, she can do it. Lol It will happen, then she will cry, say she was also his victim and write a tell all book to earn yet more $$$.😂😂😂
Wow, this makes me really question how these 4 men, Kody included, were raised??? It’s not a coincidence, they are all extremely chauvinistic and misogynistic. Wow 😮
My dear Katie..you are totally right in what you report. These men, like their brother, are narcissists. I have a son who is also a narcissist so I know of what I speak. Keep up the good work!❤
Katie you knocked it out of the park. They met their match in you because you’re smarter than them. This is one of the best ones I’ve listened to in a long time !! Way to go !
Why don't they discuss on their podcast about how Kody has been supported most of his adult life by the strong women (his wives) who worked to provide financally and by caring for their children. Kody ruined them and couldn't survive without the females in his life.
What makes a man is what makes any decent human being. Decency, respect for others, hard work, having integrity and empathy, thoughtfulness and striving to do good. Patriarchy aside, Kody has none of these qualities. This makes him unsuitable to lead a Patriarchal society anyway. I noticed one of the brothers had a picture of the centre of the scistine Chapel behind him, with Adam touching fingers with God, implying that his beliefs are ordained by God. A MAN Michael Angelo painted the Chapel, not god. I admire you having the energy to deal with these unfortunate men. They show there insecurities so openly.
Your response was so clear and direct. Their effort to turn it back on you was exactly what Kody has done to all the OG wives and kids. They had every intention of attacking you, tried and failed. Miserably. Good Job KJ.
This was very good. VI agree with so much you have said. Women need to realize our rights can go away a lot easier than we think. Just be aware for your sake and your daughters sakes.
Another thing I want to say about Kody, he neglected and mistreated his children. His favorite kids were the ones he had with Robin. Then he wants to turn the tables on Christine saying she's turning his kids against him. No Cody your kids are not stupid. They see how you treat them differently how you neglect them don't spend hardly any time with them. Kody Brown as a bad dad and he tried saying that Christina was putting his kids against him.. I'm Christine said that is not true the kids asked me on their own. Kody Brown is so stupid. I've seen many interviews where Christine said that he was such a great father she gave him praise he did not deserve! And then Cody just talks s*** about Christine throwing her under the bus. While Janelle and Christine did all the work to make sure that family ran smoothly!
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Hey Friends,
These men asked ME to be on their podcast. Not the other way around. I am responding to THEM asking me. I engaged them in a dialogue that I felt would be better suited topics to cover. I also knew they were trolling me. I also know that Kody is behind that last email which took 5 days to send to me. Either way, I engaged to get an idea of what they were like, I never brought up Kody. Nor did I care to discuss him. They did.
They are white nationalist extremists. I'm pretty sure I did fine in my dialogue and was more respectful to them than they were to me.The Men's right movement is born out of extremism. Men are not under attack. Sorry. There is no data to prove this point. And I'm not going to entertain it here.
Also the theory about Y chromosome eradication is not by JORDAN Peterson. I did not call him a whackadoodle. I am not a fan of Peterson & I would assumed most of my loyal viewers know exactly why. If you like him, great. I don’t.
Katie
I love your response to them.
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wait didnt you say you commented on their video?
I did leave a comment on their video which then had them ask me to be on their podcast. How does leaving a comment assume an invitation would happen. it doesn't @@sleepyandhollow.
@@WithoutACrystalBall ... Why am I not surprised that that the men are all White Nationalists ...
“When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."
This is so spot on.
100% this. Rights are not a zero sum game.
Amen!
This is a powerful statement! Well said!
💯 %%%
It's funny how they always go straight to how we need to be protected by men, but they fail to mention that it's usually a man that we need protection from.
@PrissyTomboy My thoughts exactly! 💯🎯
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My gun case says I dont need a mans protection ..lmao
@@RoRo07770why are you rolling your eyes at the truth? 🤣
They do NOT see the irony This is what is so scary. Slow evolution
Nothing more threatening to some men is a strong woman. Women get stronger when they have to be both mother and father. Kody’s wives (except Robyn) have had to go it alone for years.
So very true
A man saying this is huge! Thank you for sharing!❤❤❤
@@LanieJohnson-fc7jz I’m female
This is incredibly naive. Men are not threatened by strong women. These men were not threatened at all. They are tired of constantly being silenced and told their opinion doesn’t matter.
@@megan7792bs, men have had privilege for thousands of years, you spreading this kind of dialogue is part of the problem
You have always made it crystal clear that exposing cults is all about protecting the children and women - the most vulnerable. Thank you for your work.
I appreciate that
Yes! Ty!
100% agreed. Ty.
He is not happy the entire truth is out there and no longer hidden. You keep up the good work, kiddo! I watch and listen to you because you are factual! Thank you for being you!!!!
Secure, emotionally stable men prefer independent women. I have more education than my husband and make more money than him. I’m the boss where I work. This has never threatened my husband. He knows I love him and is proud of me. Thirty yrs and still going strong!
You obviously have a keeper.😊 I've been with my husband 29 years. My situation was exactly the same until I had an accident and became unable to work. My husband doesn't treat me any different than when I worked and made more money than he did now that I am unable to work. We are a team - equals. There's a lot of other things I do to run our lives that my husband doesn't. Men like Kody and his brothers obviously can't handle women like us, but in my opinion, they're nowhere near being "men." They're just overgrown toddlers with testicles.
Um..does he have a single brother lmao
Seems to be by my observations, having lived for 69 years long, that so-called macho men feel threatened by well-educated, well-informed, independent women.
Yeah I'm a couple years younger than you lived in a family with all brothers but my mom my grandmother were strong women who were valued as a person I know it's rare although I was married to a narcissist mysoginistic man I thought it was his upbringing which it partially was I thought he wanted different in the end he didn't
I’m glad that you responded to them in the way you did. You stood your ground on why you have an issue with the network and with the way things are done and how they exploit kids. I think your response was well done.
Well said, Katie! I love men too… my wonderful husband, my brothers, my 4 sons. There IS a type of man I’ve eradicated from MY life. If other women want these “men,” they’re welcome to them. They’re no longer my problem.
you mean you don't want a man like Kody? 😂
@psychofox9920 no one wants a man like Kody. You have to be desperate and out of options to settle for a man like that.
I saw something online a couple days ago that really hits home. It goes something like this: If you are tired of people sucking the life out of you, stop providing the straw. I am aware that removing oneself from some situations may be very difficult, but I believe it well worth the effort to give it everything you have to extricate yourself and build a new life. Christine Brown is an excellent example.
I love your email to them. Well thought out, intelligent, stating facts and not emotions, logical. They could learn a few things from you. KJ out here slaying the demons 😂
I came here to say the same thing but you worded it so nicely, so I’ll just say…..Ditto!
All joking aside, that was an amazing email. Their response back to your email was so expected. I was not surprised by anything they said and I believe 100% that Kody is behind this. Keep up with your great work! We appreciate all of your hard work and I can only hope someone comes across your channel that is in some sort of a cult or similar situation and learns that #1, this is not normal and #2, there IS a way out.
@@christinehaydon1745 Ditto! :)
It took them 5 days to respond because it took them that long to understand your email, or to find someone to explain it to them!!! They realized they more than met their match coming up against you and how bad they’d look after you got done with them!!! It would have been great to see! That one brother would be having more than usual facial tics during that podcast!🤣
Exactly! Katie has more brains in her toenail clippings than these Brown "boys" could ever muster.
😂 that's hilarious and true
Right. Her email was so long, wordy, irrelevant, and far out, it would’ve taken 5 days to read it and attempt a response.
And to consult with Cody
Proud of you, Katie! You hit a nerve by daring to be a woman with an opinion who won't hesitate to call out their BS. That's a badge of honour- keep at it! 👍✊️💕
Women needing the physical strength of men to protect them from men is not the patriarchal flex they think it is.
I have never needed a man to protect me, I in fact had to protect myself from an evil stalker, and I did. Break into my house blabber mouth and I will show you women can take care of business.
OMG they picked a fight with the wrong ‘gal’!! 😂 They were probably high-fiving each other for their ‘awesome’ response that took five days to draft, and then your response totally obliterated them. Then they ran away, probably sobbing about the mean lady. 🤣 Way to slay, Katie!!
Kody talked about how he was ‘red-pilled’ in one of his cameos (referring to Christine prior to their announcement of their split) and it sickened me. How dare a woman want to be treated well?! Who the hell does she think she is?!!
Comedy gold. Good job Katie. 👍😀
Kody doing what he does best.... throwing tantrums! Getting his bros to help spread his anger.
I cracked up when you said whack a doodle. 🤣
The Brothers Brown strike me as serious INCELS🤫🤫🤫
The bottom line is that you are a perfect example of everything that they fear. You're an educated woman who is well-spoken, who takes the time to research topics and back up claims with facts, and worst of all, you have a platform. You are not someone who can be easily dismissed or discredited. I have no doubt that they found their interaction with you very frustrating because they tried to set a trap for you and you thwarted them at every turn without giving them fodder to use in their videos or podcasts. Well done.
Haha! I can easily dismiss and discredit her. This is the first and last time I’ll watch any of her videos. She’s far too wordy, boring, assuming, declares falsely, very defensive, and simply irrational!
Exactly,well said 💯 ❤
OMG what gross men, no wonder Cody is such a horrible person…
LOL that was Great ...👏👏👏👍. 🙋
Misogyny runs in the family apparently 🤮
These f*cking troglodytes 🤮
Sounds like whoever was the primary caregiver for Kody and his bro’s was seriously deficient in parenting skills!
There mother must of been a submissive slave
I think they were deeply intimidated by your solid knowledge and intelligence. I don’t think they would dare to have a debate with you and end up making themselves look foolish. Nicely done! ❤
yep, nothing more threatening to an alpha male than an intelligent female........
And that is entirely it. Well said.
My daughters husband is exactly like these men. He doesn’t respect her, he’s a narcissist , verbal abusive , always playing the victim and takes no responsibility. Not to mention an alcoholic. She just filed for divorce after 23 years
Good for her!
I'm sorry it took her so long to cut ties with him but so happy she finally did it!
I love that for her.
People that are guilty of bad behavior HATE it when the truth comes out.
🎯💯🎯
Exactly
Sooo they realize they grew up in a cult but don’t realize how damaging their brother was to his children 😢🤦🏼♀️
When Kody's daughter needed surgery his money went to political donations. I don't understand a man that does that.
I couldn’t believe he blew off his child during surgery she could have died anything could have happened and he made christine work and she had to pay for it herself, every single dime!!!! WHAT KIND OF FATHER DOES THAT
Exactly. Kody funded the republican party. The same party that is trying to gut obamacare and privatize healthcare.
I've only been watching the last few seasons. I fell away from SW years ago but I remember thinking Kody was a bit nuts, but doing his best to be a fair husband and good Dad. I'm struck now by the fact that he always looks like he can't be bothered whenever anyone else is talking and never seems to claim his children. He never calls them my or our children. It's always 'your' children. My parents are divorced and I'm fully aware of what's being implied whenever my Dad calls me 'Your Mothers Daughter', and a similar statement will come from my Mum when she's p'd off with me too. I think language matters and the language he uses to claim his kids is telling. He thinks they are solely the mothers responsibility. If he cared he would call them His kids. I bet even the car is called His car ffs.
@@user-ee1et2pm1z Then there were months and months of her going through recovery...in which he wasn't there. This was the kicker for Christine...good for her, but I wish she left when he almost let Truly (sp?) die. Why make all of those kids if you don't love them. This is just dumb.
@@user-ee1et2pm1z Poor excuse of a man.........
You really held the upper hand, simply because your words were always respectful but confident and accurate. I grew up in patriarchy, but the last 10 years I stood up and won't let anyone knock me down. I felt so much of what Christine is feeling now. I am super proud of her, she had enormous courage and inner strength to get out of that humongous mess. Thank you Katie, you are the best.
I love how they talk about all the things we use that were built by men... Sir, that is not the flex you think it is. You EXIST because of a woman.
That damn point right there!!!
Yep my answer is who birthed the men who made such things..hmmmm? Oh yeah a woman
.so technically IF IT WASN'T FOR A WOMAN GIVING BIRTH TO THESE MEN NOTHING WOULD EXIST..
Nice and I love it 😍
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I am a mom of three, a big sister and a daughter... I'm not trying to be argumentative, but women cannot bring life to this world without a contribution from a man. We are 50/50 partners in conception. Yes, we carry our baby for nine months and give birth... but that is an honor, not a burden. I just wish neither side thought they were more important than the other... we are EQUALLY important.
How dare you hope for equality! 😂 they're clowns.
You hit the nail on the head, it’s about control and power. They don’t want to share power or control because they are threatened by sharing control, they haven’t evolved to that level yet. They fear they will become irrelevant.
I absolutely need a Miss Crystal Ball hoodie. Girl, sign me up for that!
I want a t-shirt. I live in Texas. We have maybe 2 days a year cold enough for a hoodie. 😉
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There has to be a lot of underlying fear for these guys to feel so paranoid! Keep up the great work Katie!
Paranoid? I didn’t see it.
I love your responses and it only shows how weak men like that, truly are.
Very well said, Katie!!!
I commend you on your knowledge, your articulate answers, and basically how you wrapped circles around the brothers and their lack of understanding.
To be honest, it's sad and worrying that there are people in this world ( by people, i mean the brothers ) who have such such extreme views! So, thank goodness for people like you, Katie ❤ Take care!
Oh, boy!! This was a good one. It feels like we got a small glimpse into Kody Browns world. Good reporting Katie.
Truth hurts don't it Kody!! Well done Katie keep turning the screws on his true life xx 👏 ❤❤❤
It took 5 days to respond because you used big words......
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Lmfao they thought you were weak or an easy target. And you absolutely wiped the floor with them!! Excellent job!!
Katie, they are not qualified to have those conversations with you. They only know what they think inside their own small minds.
I was thoroughly entertained by the email exchange you had with Kodster’s brothers. You were the consummate professional and you were clearly the one who was in control of that conversation. I’m very impressed with you Katie Joy. I’d be subscribing if I wasn’t already subscribed. I genuinely hope this conversation continues with these men and I hope that they realize that they have made a mistake in trying to communicate with you. And Kodster is going crazy right now trying to figure out how to “get back at you”. He doesn’t know what else to do now and I hope he spins into a lunatic episode and videos that for us who want to watch him lose control. We’ve watched this happen with him time and time again. The kids are suffering because of his behavior, yet he believes he’s right and all women are wrong. I’d be highly interested in watching him on a show called Brother Husbands. But that’s never going to happen. I’m going to continue to be impressed with the conversation you had with those guys. Well done Miss Crystal Ball. Keep up the great work!!
Katie !! Good for you , your response was eloquent and factual. No wonder they backed down having you on their podcast , they met their match and beyond 😂.
I’m a 62 year old woman, and I’m amazed at this “movement” of men crying victim.
Even my father, that’s no longer with us saw through this.
In the 70s, he made sure and tell me to apply for credit in my own name apart from a man. This was not something that was possible before the 70s.
I’m reminded of something my father said to my brother 40 years ago.
“If you have to tell people that you’re a big strong man, then you’re not. They’d know without you telling them.”
The oppressor crying victim is just fear based. White men wanting to hold onto their feelings of superiority over women, people of color, and gay people.
It’s so transparent, and actually shows weakness on their part.
Amen! My pop also said these things and he was a strong proud hard working man. And other men have expressed that to me as I grew up.
That is so true Katie Joy. Men seeking help for depression is viewed by society as weakness. When actually getting mental is a strength!! I wish man could see that. Cuz we would have far more healthier men mentally emotionally if they sought out help not being afraid of judgment.😊
You can speak your mind which shows you are a force to be reckoned with! I believe they are frightened of you or any woman who is strong. Keep up the reporting!
She speaks defensively and irrationally.
Why are you calling Kody a woman, @andeeq? Lmfao...
Katie, I appreciate your attempt to help these two understand how patriarchy can harm women and children. However, I'm guessing you have realized that you may have wasted your time - but not totally. The response you received just proves everything you tried to explain in a very clear, professional, respectful way to two men who chose to show a glimpse of the misogyny they espouse.
I knew it was unlikely that they would change their mind, but if they are going to give me an inch, I'm gonna take a mile. I have been in contact with a former fundamentalist from the IBLP. When we started talking 3 years ago, he was heavily pro corporal punishment and very much about homeschool. He was also very unwilling to listen to anything that wasn't from like NEWSMAX. Over time, through our conversations, his opinion on corporal punishment completely changed. He also had his daughters over to his home. He then apologized to them for bringing them into a misogynistic cult and getting them involved with the Duggar Family. His daughter later confirmed the dramatic change in her father to me. So sometimes they listen
@@WithoutACrystalBallSo happy to know that. You're not only helping expose these cults and misogynists by reporting on them, you're making a difference in people's lives, perhaps saving lives in some cases.
@@WithoutACrystalBallI’m so glad that there are times where you can get through to people. These groups are all about control.
We just have to keep chipping away at them!
Yes. They just proved in their replies all Katie has said. Too funny. They are not interested in looking at a different view or be educated in a woman’s view at all. They just want to show their followers how they can put another woman back in her place. I’m so glad Katie, you didn’t take the bait. Now a man would take the bait “chicken?”
Lois Katie Lane! Your journalistic ethics are right on the money! You’ve been more than fair to these douche bags. I love that you did this!
I am literally laughing when the one brother spoke of equipment building on his list of things men do. Well…….I’m older and my precious Mother-in-law was an actual Rosie the Riveter during WWII. She worked in building aircraft while many of her friends worked in munitions to keep our supplies up. She had fabulous stories! So I hope that little wisdom choked going down to Cody and the brothers! What a bunch of fools!😂
Ms. Crystal Ball sounds like a good thing to me. It shows that you see things with clarity! The issues you address are not clouded. You view things and report on these things with an open, pure, and clear mind and heart. It's interesting that these men thought you would be willing to be on their podcast without question. They obviously have no insight or knowledge of who you are and what you do. Love your channel. Glad you're on the mend too.❤
Without a crystal Ball means you can see this without a crystal ball.
The brothers need to put Kody and Robyn in check for how they exploited the first original wives and for emotionally harming the original 13 children!
you should change the name of your channel to Mrs Crystal Ball. LOL embrace it!
Just wanted to bash a woman who gets lots of views and then they may get more views and more to discuss. Ugh…
If Kody's brothers are railing against men losing custody of children, they can look to Kody as the worst example. Kody should lose custody basically of all the kids
They do talk about Kody. No one would know who they are otherwise.
I tried to listen to their podcast just for the hell of it (I don’t agree with any of their politics) and I couldn’t get myself to listen to the whole thing. They were both so dense and boring. No wonder they get no views 😂
EVERYBODY despises Kidney! And we are very fair, because we can’t stand Sobyn either!!
I 2nd this motion his issues are effecting the world that knows about him.
Katie, I found your response to them to be extremely extremely fair. I really think you came to them from a perspective of professionalism. To your credit, you are honest and lay it all out there. I just want to give you credit because you deserve to hear it. I admire you. You have strength and honor and integrity. Your videos speak volumes about your character. I guess I am just using this long winded comment to say thank you for being kind and for being the good person that you are 🥰🥰🥰❤️
thank you!
@@WithoutACrystalBall 🥰❤️♥️
Never said better. That's our Katy !
@@WithoutACrystalBall Ditto! I love your commentary! The more Kody mansplains, the stupider he appears to the world. Only like minded men agree with him.
Wow, this really shines a light on them, there’s no doubting what this is now.
It is absolutely true that men are ridiculed even by their own family for seeking mental health help. Sadly I have seen it in my own family.
Being a bit older than you, I think my perspective may be different but still worth consideration, from my perspective there appears to be a divide going on in the world today that is essentially pitting men and women against each other. I have seen it and experienced it and I think perhaps that's the bigger issue going on here. There's an undercurrent of focusing on what each sex has done wrong to the other. There is promotion of focusing on the negative qualities and too much blame is being dished out on both sides. None of this is good and beneficial to the world we live in. We were designed to be each others mates and helpers in this life. Men have strengths and weaknesses and women have strengths and weaknesses and when brought together we balance each other out. We are stronger United. There is a dividing going on and people are becoming angry at the opposite sex. Where do you think that road goes? Men and women are different and those differences shouldn't be a wedge between us but instead a strength. Two sides of the same coin. Both needed and both equal. Let's embrace those differences and learn to appreciate them. Let us stop blaming one another for the past and learn to respect and embrace each other in the present.
Just my opinion, but we need to stop and do some personal reflection before this escalates further. men and women need to stop the hate and instead love each other. Forgive. None are perfect. We all have committed wrongs. Our literal future is at stake if this hatred flourishes.
Thank you for bringing up this perspective so eloquently. Disagreement does not have to devolve into vivacious vitriol. I see that a lot here.
So very well said! I cringe whenever I hear the ‘buzz’ words like; equity, inclusion, diversity. Those words represents divisiveness, inequity and exclusion. The fact is, men are stronger than women; that’s an indisputable fact! We are not the same, and never will be. Because of this, there can never be true equality. A man cannot breastfeed his children - only women can. Women are nurturing; that’s been our role since the beginning of time! We should embrace our differences, and strive to be the best we can, with those differences.
Thank you! I've been scrolling through comments looking for someone with common sense. I agree 100%!
I hope cootie and box face sit there at night reading all the comments 😂
How much do you wanna bet he’s so narcissistic that he googles himself on a regular basis? Lol
I think my favorite part about this whole dialog, is KNOWING that, "Miss Crystal Ball" is taking up space in Kody's head!! Bet every night, is a sleepless one, for cootie & sobbin!!
Love it!!! 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
She only thinks she is. That’s how irrational she is. I highly doubt Kody gives her a moment’s thought.
Good evening.
I am a follower who is also a HS ELA teacher in the inner city. I loved reading your instagram post about this and this video. Might you be okay with me using your writing for a class debate? I loved how cleverly and succinctly you wrote your argument.
Of course! Let me know how it goes
I was always taught that the man is the king of the house and I deserve to be treated like a queen. I don’t know if that is patriarchy or not but have been married almost 30 yrs. I will treat him as head of house as long as he has total respect for my opinion and thoughts. Kody has not honored his wives by treating them as queens. It’s all about respect. It’s not nor never should be about being the one in charge. Kody’s problem isn’t that he wants to be head of household, it’s he doesn’t know how to be head of household, he has no ability to learn and grow or to admit his faults. He made these woman be head of household’s then when it suited him to pull the man card he was surprised that the woman had no respect for him and his wants? Why would they care of his wants when he basically left them to do everything on there own. They earned money, raised kids and took care of their houses, what was his contribution? Looked like nothing. So basically these woman were single moms and learned to live without a husband. Kody did this but will never admit it.
Always speak your truth Katie.....❤
You know it really scares me how much we were lied to about this show. These people have deep issues and are terrifying. TLC should be ashamed of themselves. Ty so much for all of your coverage. I watched your interview with Emily 2hrs wasn't long enough imo lol it was fascinating and I did love how you helped her tell her story. Dumb question because I'm fairly new ..did you do a similar video with Christine Decker? I would love to watch an interview like that. BTW you handled yourself extremely professionally with his brothers.
Look way back in her videos. She did a 2 part interview with Kristin Decker. It was very eye-opening
@jackieluman7086 ty so much I will definitely search for it!!! I appreciate you telling me 😊
@@jackieluman7086 ty again I watched them wow so eye opening
Everything bothers his kidneys.
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Omg this is the best😂
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It's ironic how concerned Kody is about HIS kidneys when his daughter's kidneys were nearly destroyed, quite literally, while under his care - or rather, lack thereof. Narcissistic misogynistic AH's!
or his pencil...
My daughter and I were cheering before you got to the third paragraph! You go girl. All 3 of my girls saw me pay bills, cook, clean, and have time to volunteer at church, school, and the American Red Cross. I would go by myself to national disaster sights, and come home and be show and tell. Now, all 3 run their households, main income, moms and have time for whatever they want. One has a Master's Degree, getting a second Master's Degree in a different course of study, and will get her Doctorate. A published author and photographer, business owners... I think we did well, quite well. ❤😊 Thank you for all that you do.
Good for you Katie! These people are absolutely pathetic & disgusting. They just wanted you to come on their show so they could rattle you and tear you down. These men are just intimidated by your strength and intelligence and want to tear you down in front of their audience, to make themselves look better.
I find it humorous that they have a problem with Katie "exploiting Kody for monetary reasons" however, don't have any problem exploiting Katie for monetary reasons. In my opinion they are two-faced bigoted males.
Absolutely.
They are as demented as Kody. They have been severely affected by the cult of the AUB and maybe others. They seem to want to keep women as chattel and do not want to give them the respect women deserve who have worked hard to work toward equality in pay, advancement, etc. This is very sad and I think it is also dangerous to unsuspecting women or young girls that are getting groomed to be a “wife”. Congrats Katie.
It is like a knife in the kidneys that he has to have his brothers fight his battle all the sacrifices 😊
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Adding one more comment, I have friend that I adore and her husband is extremely abusive to her and her husband listens to podcasts about men’s rights. It makes me sad and sick. I cannot help her and have asked to help her many times. Your video is right on the money about the cruelty of the men’s movement.
I feel like that's one of the huge reasons I appreciate responses like this. Some are saying not to respond to trolls, but these guys have pretty common opinions that are dangerous. It's important to fight against it and give voice to why it's dangerous. For both men and women.
@@ellen6953 Yes. 100%. I agree with you completely ❤️
@@ellen6953 Also, thank you for validating exactly what and how I feel. 🥰❤️
Katie, you are a class act. Keep up the good work 👏
Well done Katie! Proud of you. I'm not a Robyn fan but I have to admit, I love the way she controls him totally without him knowing it! He doesn't and never will have the wherewithal to see it and neither do his dumb brothers or family. Kody is totally under Robyn's thumb and it tickles me pink! His brothers have no idea who wears the trousers and it ain't and never has been their brother Kody 🤣
I'm glad you said it.... I've secretly thought it many times, even though I am not a fan of hers.
@@ellen6953 ikr? She actually made him believe the moves to Vegas & Flagstaff, the OTT covid rules and buying the mansion were all his idea. Don't like her but 👏Robyn on playing Kody like an old fiddle. She sure dispensed with his 'Y' chromosome all right and he hasn't even noticed yet! 😆
100%!! According to Robym he's not even allowed to use the word pest in his own house!! 😅
@@shelleyw5951 Haha! Thanks for that - yes I remember that now! 😂...and we all know who was really behind Robyn leapfrogging over Janelle & Christine to become the legal wife with all the financial perks that go with it! Of course, Kody still thinks it was his idea! He's such a doofus! 🙄
I just cant wait for the day where she has everything she wants by using him and leaves his sorry ass. He will so deserve it. If anyone can screw him out of every possible cent and item, she can do it. Lol It will happen, then she will cry, say she was also his victim and write a tell all book to earn yet more $$$.😂😂😂
OFF TOPIC!!!! but....if on season 18 they bring back that same HORRIBLE host for the Tell All....ill be so IRRITATED!!!
Me too she didn't do her job well at all in my opinion
Yes because Kody intimidates her. It’s obvious.
@butrfly62
She does not care. She said as much later. Suki is team puddle jumper and only seeks to further kody's narrative. She is a sham.
Wow, this makes me really question how these 4 men, Kody included, were raised??? It’s not a coincidence, they are all extremely chauvinistic and misogynistic. Wow 😮
Christine is free now.
My dear Katie..you are totally right in what you report. These men, like their brother, are narcissists. I have a son who is also a narcissist so I know of what I speak. Keep up the good work!❤
Could it be that they are brainwashed instead of being narcissistic? Narcissism is getting way too overplayed here.
Everything bothers him to the core. Poor kooby😢
We know it bothers him to the core because he has no kidneys left to be stabbed 😂in
Katie you knocked it out of the park. They met their match in you because you’re smarter than them. This is one of the best ones I’ve listened to in a long time !! Way to go !
The man I the bottom pic looks like he’s missing a chromosome
You are spot on, sister! Thank you from myself and many others for advocating for your yourself and so many others! You rock!
Thank you for your content. Im kind of shocked how many people are openly asking you about your face ... vs the content your provide. Odd stuff.😂
Which I hope is getting better, but ya
Kody is a nut.
Well done Katy. Keep doing what you're doing!!
Male fragility bingo card.
I got almost a total blackout from their email exchange.
You should have said " That's QUEEN Crystal Ball to you!"
Why don't they discuss on their podcast about how Kody has been supported most of his adult life by the strong women (his wives) who worked to provide financally and by caring for their children. Kody ruined them and couldn't survive without the females in his life.
What makes a man is what makes any decent human being. Decency, respect for others, hard work, having integrity and empathy, thoughtfulness and striving to do good.
Patriarchy aside, Kody has none of these qualities. This makes him unsuitable to lead a Patriarchal society anyway.
I noticed one of the brothers had a picture of the centre of the scistine Chapel behind him, with Adam touching fingers with God, implying that his beliefs are ordained by God. A MAN Michael Angelo painted the Chapel, not god.
I admire you having the energy to deal with these unfortunate men. They show there insecurities so openly.
These men consider women their possession to serve them! It was apparent they wanted this to be about Kody per Kody. Such foolishness on their part!
You handled the accusations well Katie! I’m all for Ms. Crystal Ball merchandise
Of course he lashes out at you because his wives and kids won’t let him rant and rave anymore. Ok, Robyn you can have him.
Your response was so clear and direct. Their effort to turn it back on you was exactly what Kody has done to all the OG wives and kids. They had every intention of attacking you, tried and failed. Miserably. Good Job KJ.
Your responses made so much sense and were so fair I think you confused them so much it blew their mind.
I’m loving this stuff, Katie!
It sounds like they are gas lighting her -implying that something in her background is bothering her and motivating her to speak out against cults
Proud of you Katie ❤full support
You go Katie....your letter was Excellent!
😊 thank you
This is so great Katie! Love your content and all your hard work.
This was very good. VI agree with so much you have said. Women need to realize our rights can go away a lot easier than we think. Just be aware for your sake and your daughters sakes.
Happy Monday! I hope your eye is getting better.
Working with women and children within social services I can tell you that I agree with them on society going after the men and their violated rights.
Another thing I want to say about Kody, he neglected and mistreated his children. His favorite kids were the ones he had with Robin. Then he wants to turn the tables on Christine saying she's turning his kids against him. No Cody your kids are not stupid. They see how you treat them differently how you neglect them don't spend hardly any time with them. Kody Brown as a bad dad and he tried saying that Christina was putting his kids against him.. I'm Christine said that is not true the kids asked me on their own. Kody Brown is so stupid. I've seen many interviews where Christine said that he was such a great father she gave him praise he did not deserve! And then Cody just talks s*** about Christine throwing her under the bus. While Janelle and Christine did all the work to make sure that family ran smoothly!
Comical how some folks actually believe “reality” shows are “real” and think they really know a lot about the lives of the people in the show. Hahaha!