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What's up, Loners! In this video, we go over some instances of Americans moving to Spain and the reasons why they did it. This is an interesting video to us so it is a bit longer than usual. We hope you enjoy our content and if you do please don't forget to like and subscribe! Also, make sure to follow our vlog channel! Thank you all :)
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Anywhere in Europe is better than the US.
1. Safer.
2. Gun controls.
3. Universal Healthcare.
4. Closer to new cultures and languages.
5. Better public transports.
6. Holiday time has legal mandatory amount weeks off paid.
7. Parental holiday rights when you have a child.
8. Overall better work /life balance.
9. No US media.
10. Better neighbourhoods.
11. Older and wiser than the US.
This is very true!
and Australia
Older, yes we are. But wiser, no way. I am Spaniard and we are no wiser.
@@mara_jade021 +1 🇪🇦😢
@@mara_jade021 I don't agree with you. I'm a spaniard who has lived in the USA and also in Britain, France and Germany and felt the difference. In general european societies are wiser because they are older. Europe has millennia of written History, of wars and changes and that necessarily leaves a mark. It is called idiosincrasy.
Oh, please don't. To every American...unless you are cultured, open minded and willing to learn Spanish, please stay in the U.S.
exMichigan in Spain, I speak both spanish and catalán. Since I have been here.
@@MichaelcharlesOleniczak That's the way it should be. I lived in the United States and I learned the language, granted my grandfather was American and I went to bilingual schools most of my life. Still, a good immigrant is the one who adapts to the culture and does not change it.
Take these type of videos with a huge bucket of salt. These are the tiny well off minority who don’t tell you how much money, time, bureaucracy, patience, paper work etc you need to even consider about moving to a new country. Unless you have a suitable passport, it usually requires proof of wealth or a signed work contract.
The warning flag goes up even more when people say “oh, everybody speaks English, it’s so easy to get around”. That’s a sign you have chosen to be lazy, ignorant and live in a tiny expat/tourist bubble expecting everybody to cater to you in English and can pay people to translate/interpret when you’re in touch with immigrations, the local electricity company, health care, whatever you need.
Paperwork is not done in English.
Most Europeans are bi and multilingual but not necessarily English speakers and you need to learn the language when you move.
I’ve lived abroad and I’m still baffled at the arrogance regarding the language some immigrants or expats as they love to call themselves, show.
Show the locals and new country respect. You adapt, not the other way around.
We 100 percent agree with this! Anytime we go to other countries we take time and effort to learn the language to show respect for the culture and people there
As a Spanish from a minority community, I am a Galician it is sad to see how many are entitled mostly British but some American come here with no regard for our communities, lifestyle, and languages.
They even demand for old people on bars and tiny shops have everything in English (prices and such) I have to help shopkeepers from Karens demanding how they dare to not speak English rudely. To people that could be their grandfather!
That is not most Americans or ex-pats. But is a. noticeable portion of the total. Many live in their communities paying for agencies to estimate all to avoid even being near any local
all this causes a certain coldness in how many people see English language ex-pats.
@@mara_jade021 That is so rude and embarrassing. I can only imagine how stressed out the hardworking seniors must be getting.
Why can’t people at least try to learn the basics and behave?
It’s free to be nice. Say hello, good evening, thank you.
There’s always going to be cultural and linguistic misunderstandings, no matter how experienced you are as a traveler or moved abroad person, because it takes a lifetime to understand a culture, (cultures are extremely complex and fascinating) but when you are the rude element creating problems for the local community, that’s something else.
I haven’t been to Spain yet it’s def going to happen. There’s so much to explore and discover!
Galicia is “the left corner” on top of Portugal, right?
What is special for your community and area compared to the rest of Spain, would you say?
Spain is massive and I guess each corner is very different? 😀
@@AnnaKaunitz We were a medieval realm called Galicia and before that, we are ethnically Celtic. Same as Ireland and Brittany. We have. prehistoric ruins similar to the ones you see in Ireland. We were one of the richest Roman provinces Galaecia it was a rich mine area with silver and gold mines (Romans dry all that more than a millennia ago)
We were the origin of Portugal until they separate in medieval times and we share the Galaico-Portuguese language until xv due de were conquered by Spain. We have our language still the Galician which is similar to Portuguese.
We also have Compostela Cathedral and The only Roman lighthouse in working condition in the entire world Hercules Tower. That and the only intact city with Roman walls. All of them are UNESCO monuments.
Also, we are known due our seafood and our Beef the Ternera Gallega.
@@mara_jade021 Very interesting! Some things I knew but I didn’t know about the lighthouse. I def got to go to Galicia. The food, omg, I have a feeling the local food and beverages is amazing.
Spain Revealed is such a great channel for learning more about the country, traditions, and her people. James has more videos that showcase average Spaniards living their lives. I highly recommend reacting to them!
I'm from Valencia but before the pandemic I lived in the US for a couple of years. It's hard not to overgeneralize but from my experience seems to me that people in the US are more willing (and it's even sometimes expected) to sacrifice life quality if their job requires it. Doesn't mean in Spain you can't also find people living to work, with shitty jobs or asshole bosses. The main difference is that (except probably in Madrid and Barcelona) people don't have to make long driving commutes, in many places you can live without a car, by law you have paid sick leave and vacations, and universal healthcare (there's also private health insurance companies but even those are more affordable that in the US). Those things contribute to life quality.
I don't know about which requirements any American (with no other ties to Spain) would need to move here but regarding how much money do you need to live comfortably in a city like Valencia you were spot on: it depends on each person. The retired couple had an empty fridge (besides booze) so it's safe to assume they eat out all the time so even if you were to the cheapest places (which they probably don't) a 1000€ a month would never be enough. The good news is that in Spain, even if you only earn 1200€, you can't go bankrupt just because an injury or illness.
In relation to the economy, I could say that although it seems that in Spain wages are lower than in the USA, I can explain some things.
They are different ways of measuring. In the USA they talk about GROSS salary, and not NET.
That is to say that from there you have to remove fees, health insurance and other things.
There are also many other differences:
In the USA, car INSURANCE costs about $300 per MONTH. In Europe €350 per YEAR.
In the USA, the public transport service is basic or non-existent, so you need 1 car for each person in the family. In Europe, the public transport service is excellent and you can perfectly live without a car.
In the USA, a health insurance that gives you a service similar to the health insurance in Spain can cost $1,800 per month. (Spain has the third best healthcare system in the world)
In the USA, medicines can be up to 10 times more expensive than in Spain
th-cam.com/video/HLDQbf9ea0U/w-d-xo.html
In the USA, studying a degree does not go down from $50,000 and up to $200,000 while in Europe it is free or, like in Spain, it costs €2,000 per year (paying off the investment made, you should take a good part of the salary in the first years of work).
In the USA there are no public parks like there are in Spain.
In the USA, subsidized houses are unlivable neighborhoods, and in Europe many are of very good quality.
In the USA vacations are not paid, and in Europe we have a month of paid vacations and more paid holidays.
In the USA there are no paid paternity leaves, and in Europe they pay you 4 months of salary to take care of your children.
In the USA there is no childcare service, and in regions like Madrid you have free nurseries until the child is 3 years old when they start school.
In addition, now Madrid gives you €14,500 for each baby you have.
There is support for days off, help for children with problems, people with few resources, free services, subsidies, work-life balance, social integration, etc. that does not exist in the USA.
www.telemadrid.es/programas/buenos-dias-madrid/Comunidad-gratuidad-escuelas-infantiles-publicas-2-2111208859--20190409073245.html
In Spain there is a subsidized System for the elderly to travel and enjoy Spas with very reduced prices subsidized or Free. (IMSERSO)
www.20minutos.es/noticia/3566652/0/que-es-el-imserso/
In Spain a teacher earns around €2,000 per month.
th-cam.com/video/cN0oVi1A4Mw/w-d-xo.html
Another difference is that the retirement in Spain for a teacher with 35 years of work would be 100% of the salary and with ALL the aforementioned Social rights and in the USA he would retire with 50% of her salary.
And so we could be explaining the differences for a long time.
In the USA, two people working, with two children, two vehicles, could need a minimum of $6,000 a month to live.
Taking their children to a nursery, the expenses of the two cars, trips, rent, expenses, loans to pay for the race, etc.
In Spain you could have the same quality of life for €2,000, everything else is provided by the State. Vacations, health insurance, subsidized trips, subsidized medicines, university studies, free daycare, etc. The state would contribute between €2,500 and €4,000 more per month in the form of all this amount of aid and subsidies.
If we were to measure a salary in Spain in the way they are measured in the USA, we could say that a street sweeper who in Spain earns €1,900 a month, working 35 hours a week and with 4 extra payments per year, would receive another €2,000 to €3,000 in form of state aid. With which his real salary would be between €4,000 and €5,000 per month but also the costs of living would be ALMOST HALF (with which, in relation to purchasing power, the salary would double)
This is called the "Welfare State" and it is an interventionist policy of the Government, which works more in Europe compared to a totally Liberal policy in the USA, where they put all the money in your pocket and there you manage if problems arise in life. .
es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estado_del_bienestar
The people in Spain is happy, working for life! Not life for working like USA
Wherever you want to go, adapt. Don’t live like an American in an other country.
It’s not just a sunny place where life is cheaper and you act like you did in the US, you are a guest and have to try to fit in.
The problem I have with these kind of video's is that they make it look like moving from the US to Europe is simple.
All these people in this video have or had very well paying jobs, and the last one had also a European background he could use, if I understood that correctly.
But if you don't have that, and live from paycheck to paycheck and you are low skilled, the chance you can move to Europe, is practically zero.
This is true! Which is what we were kind of mentioning throughout the video
Hi! Spaniard here. Life's cheaper, around 83% of Germany's prices, but also salaries are quite low. Minimum wage is 1080€, a waiter or bartender makes about 1200-1300 euros, which is just 12-20% above minimum wage. Not enough to rent a flat in Madrid, Barcelona or Palma de Mallorca. Median salaries are close to 1500€, and skilled jobs (teachers, doctors, engineers) are below 30K/year. For example, the average wage for an IT Systems & Network technician (my position) is roughly below 25K a year, which is *half* of what you'd get in France or Germany, so they have a way better standard of living over there up north. Taxes here are about 32% for that ammount of income, so I guess it's not THAT great.
You are payed good for how much hours you work 😂
I'm paid less than 1500€ per month and i can afford to rent a 2 room flat, be a warhammer player and save money for a 2° hand car. Sure, in Madrid or Barcelona you won't be able to do that, but you are talking about major european cities, those are expensive to live on, because everyone wants to live there. Go live somewhere else or farther away from the center and you'll find that live is quite affordable.
Wow that’s interesting to hear. Thanks for the info!
The channel @The Black Forest Family made some good comparison videos between USA and Germany
@@M.Đ-z4u 160 hours per month, like everybody else, and usually extra hours in IT industry are not paid at all. The same position in central europe is paid €45K and in USA is paid $85K. Were you suggesting that IT staff don't work enough? What did you mean?
It's paradise. Why do you think us Brits go there by the millions every year.
Regarding the passport: When you have a passport of a European couhtry, you can live anywhere in the EU. Many American football players use that option to play for a European team.
Interesting!
Such as NALF (channel)
When you mentioned something about kids having to wear bullet proof backpacks instead of going to the root of the problem you nailed it on the head with the money comment. Why fix the problem when we can start a new industry as a bandage approach to the problem & make even more money instead - but kids, amongst other innocents, still perish for the obsession with the dollar.
In short, money is more important than kids! Controversial, but true in the US. How sad.
Regarding the EU-Passport. In the EU most countries use the "ius sanguinis" instead of "ius soli" (US). In the EU, the nationality depends on the one your parents have, not where you have been born. So if you have a great-grandfather who held a Liechtenstein passport, you would be eligible as well. Love you videos! All the best, Markus (from Austria)
As an irish person I’ll soon be leaving to Southern Europe, Portugal will be seeing me soon.
Good luck!
Hello Looners, greetings from Germany.
You can understand why many Americans are now turning their backs on their country and immigrating to Europe.
An important point is the environment high crime rate, high cost of living, work until you drop but with low earnings, no free time.
Many things that are free here in Europe have to be paid for dearly in America.
Who still goes along with that, nothing changes.
Exactly
Hi Loners!🙌 I went to Barcelona when I was a child in 1999. And was Awesome Parc Güell, The beach, the stadium(Camp Nou 😳 as a child Barcelona was my favorite football ⚽️ team and if I don’t watch football anymore there is always a little space for this team in my heart 🥺), Paëlla 🤤 (too good to be legal 😆), fruit salad(🤤😄) and The Only One, Graceful, Timeless (not finished until This Day but Love can’t be bought and what they build and still building is Love (unconditional)🥺😇🥰. And it’s make me speechless! 😳🥺💘
Before writing this comment I wanted to talk about neighboring countries but it is unfair, España is a beautiful country 🥰 and my memory came up and it is was what I felt in this comment. But there is a dark side of it.(like one day a guy proposed to my mom some photos and one of the was me 😳! Without my conscent or anything so my mom bought it to not being in is catalogue of ped🤢phila.
Great channel, I have no choice but to subscribe.
Greetings from Madrid.
Interesting video, it also helps us (Spaniards) appreciate some things we have and we don't really think about. One advice, if you want a good paella never go to a restaurant with pictures of the dishes at the entrance, those are mostly for tourists. Most of those paellas are very bad.
En España nos relacionamos y nos hacemos amigos de todas clases,no es raro ver juntos tomando algo a un médico oabogado con alguien que gana menos y cada uno paga lo suyo o una copa invita uno y a la siguiente otro,y si somos más ponemos cada uno un dinero y lo juntamos todos y de ahí se paga todo , aquí no se hacen distinciones
About the wage needed for living in the province of Valencia it depends on a bunch of factors, if you really need to live on Valencia city or on a nearby city.
In Valencia city, you could be paying above 900€-1500€/month but wages are a bit higher.
I'm living on a city 40km away from Valencia, and you can find a rent for around 400-500€. If you pay a mortgage usually is less money than a rent 250-300€. And of course, also depends if you have childs or not, but a wage something near 1200€ it's usually enough to cover all your basic needs.
¿Hipoteca por 300 euros al mes? ¿Será una cueva? Menos de 1000 euros al mes complicado.
@@19piolin82 Depende de donde sea. Si es en la capital desde luego que no. En alguna ciudad de alrededores tienes vivienda de 130m² por alrededor de 100.000€.
A 30 años, claro.
@@19piolin82maybe also depends how luxery you want to live your life, but most dont need thay
@@-_YouMayFind_- En España por 300 euros al mes no existe nada, absolutamente nada, menos de 1000 euros al mes no, y puede ser mucho, mucho, mucho más.
@@19piolin82 Yo me compré un apartamento de 104m en Ponferrada por 60k€, 300€ de hipoteca. Céntrico pero un poco viejo. Mi madre uno moderno de 55m x 55k€. Hay mucha ciudad de la "España vaciada" con estos precios y donde se tiene una muy buena calidad de vida
A veces es más fácil si tienes familia y eres descendiente de un ciudadano europeo ...no te se explicar bien porque cada país europeo tiene su norma......pero la Normativa del espacio Schengen por la que, una vez admitido como ciudadano europeo o con permiso para vivir aquí, puedes moverte dentro del grupo de países que se rigen por esta normativa y vivir donde prefieras....Se creó para facilitar la movilidad de los trabajadores europeos....
you need to remember, they don't need to earn as much as they did in the USA.
1. Everything is cheaper
2. Healthcare is free in many European countries
3. Paid holidays, sick pay
4. Safer than the USA
5. Food is nicer by a mile
Every American I have spoken to that have left the USA, have no intention of returning to the USA
timestamp 13:40 "that's like considered poverty level here " -- do not forget -- in EU education + healthcare + retirement + etc are taken care of by country because citizen pays taxes -- so in most EU countries NO NEED to budgetize that -- your wages are for "living" (food - leasure - home) -- you won't get "rich" but you will have a "live"
That makes sense
@@loners4life Hi Folks, thanks for your reply. This YT may help you understand what is the difference between EU and USA (as seen by many "internationals": th-cam.com/video/Gkeq62g-Ka4/w-d-xo.html
@@loners4life This is - unfortunatly - also an answer to your question :::>>> th-cam.com/video/wTjMqda19wk/w-d-xo.html -------- I know it's sad - our generation f**cked up, big time, so now it's up to you to show how things can be better . Good luck.
25 K here a year in Scotland is considered a reasonable wage , which would in most parts of the country allow you to rent a flat , pay your bills , eat in and out , and still be able to save for a holiday.
You guys gotta come to ireland sometime too, youd love the culture and atomsphere here, were very similar to the spanish imo, we do love to go to spain every year haha. Also plenty of colours of green.
We definitely will make it over there at some point!!
Because the Irish people are the far family ancestors of the Spanish people . In reality the mitocondrial DNA of British people in general have releved their most ancient ancestors came from Spain too. But the Irish is probably the first and most authentic of all.
Probably many of the English people who learn this data will want to die (it´s a joke, just in case) XD.
Mil Espáine - Very ancient Irish Celtic legend ("Soldier of Spain" - Hispania or Espaine (Spain and Portugal nowdays)).
"The part of the old blood always will call to the true ancestor´s root or home with a flutter in the most hidden and deep of his/her heart, even his/her mind, totally confused, don´t understand why".
Regards.
@@salvador9369 you forgot the galician king Breogán, wich appears in the irish book Lebor Gabála Érenn.
Liechtenstein isn't in the EU but it's part of the Schengen area. It's a tiny country (in between of Switzerland and Austria) famous for its banking industry.
Wwhy do Americans go to Europe for 1 week and travel around? That is so stressful and you aren't experiencing real life. You should spend the whole week in Madrid or Sevilla or whatever and actually get to see everything and get a feel for the place!
This comment is underrated.
La has clavao' 😂 (you nailed it)
This is very true! We just wanted to see as many places as we can to get a feel for them but we agree next time we go somewhere like this we will pick a specific spot and stay the trip there to get an actual feel for it!
I'd say because most Americans will probably never have that chance again, so they cram it all in one visit to see as much as possible. Remember, we don't get nearly as much time off as our European friends. Plus big corporations hate you taking time off and they make you feel guilty for even calling out sick.
travelling to Europe isn't cheap or easy, so they probably want to make the most out of it. It's the same for people who go outside of Europe or North Africa in Spain
Hi I,m Frank from Spain and every body is welcome to España-Europa. 😊
From Spain and greatly regretting the problems of the American middle and lower classes, the great problems of the United States are social inequality and the power of large corporations and only the action of the STATE can remedy it. Less state does not mean more freedom for common people, on the contrary it means that the powerful are freer to exploit the people. This is not socialism, much less communism, it is simply common sense.
Hello, I'm from Bilbao I the north of Spain. Congratulations for the video and I hope you will return soon to Spain. .
The average salary in Spain is 24k €/year, the median 19k €/year (the most common). There's an 11% of unemployment and a 30% for the youngest population. Almost 1/4 of population are at risk of poverty. The average rent in big cities is 800-1500 €/monthly; a room over 300-600 €. In second-tier cities, rent is over 400-700 €/monthly, cost of live is cheaper but salaries too. Average age to leave parent's home is over 30 years because house prices. We want to work for living, but we are one with most work overtime in Europe (and not payed usually). Unfortunately, this is not paradise for Spaniards.
waiting your holiday report from Spain.
Thanks! We will make sure to speak about it in the next video! ✌️
Speaking of healthcare, I do sometimes use private for profit clinics, as I live in a poor (for Europe, not the World on average) ex-Soviet colony, now an independent country, where regular local clinics may not have all the specialists I need or advanced equipment like MRI, and I need those pretty often, since I got a chronic condition. The most expensive I've ever encountered was MRI for 254 Euros, paid half of it out of my pocket (the other half was covered by insurance from my employer), it would cost another 80 Euros more, if done with contrast stuff. Sure, you can wait for a state subsidized examination, but I chose not to. Same with specialists - 40 Euros to somewhat skip waiting time or 2 Euros co-pay for subsidized visit. Of course a visit to a family doctor is always only 2 Euros.
Ride on an ambulance - free.
My corticosteroid anti-inflammatory medicine - 142 Euros full price, but I paid like 0,80 Euros, since with my official diagnosis it's subsidized. I don't even need it regularly, only sometimes, if I get worse, had to buy it only once in 2,5 years since diagnosis.
Yes we are poor in Valencia (or Spain) if you change your money in USA, but richer in ppp, power purchase parity.
Minimum salary is 1050 €/month, but if you live with others, as health is universal, public transportation cheap, there are public bicycles, even cheaper, you can eat at home for 200-300 €, you have money to travel, and eat out, and live well, and with more than 2000 € you live luxuriously if you want to, in terms of restaurants and travel.
We have houses, and chalets, but not a lot inside big cities, but just going out the cities, there are a lot of houses and also small town centers. Malls too, you can live almost as in the USA as we are colonized (Mac donalds, Lays, Big Mac, and many other USA brands) but still you can live as locals without a lot of foreign products, it is more difficult with music and cinema but still possible.
Let them all go to Spain, so that the house and rent prices here in Portugal start going down to affordable levels again.
What about an Irish in Portugal? Haha
@@gerryadams9868 - Oh, you're very welcome! 😄
Hell no! We are already starting to have some problems with rent prices in some areas, so start doing your part neightbours! 😂😂
@@apl315 - We've already done our "part", that's why the housing market is so inflated over here. It's time somebody else start taking the load too because it seems like the exodus is not going to stop any time soon.
We’ve heard about this! That so many people from the states have moved to Portugal since the pandemic. We’re sorry to hear that it’s causing prices to skyrocket for housing and other things
As a Brit I’ve been thinking of leaving the UK for Spain but it’s just an idea so far.
I bugged out to France just in time.
@@josephturner7569 How is it? I’m going to wait to see what goes on in the next general election, if the conservatives still win I’m definitely moving. It might not be to Spain but definitely leaving the UK.
I think there’s some hope for the UK if we managed to kick the conservatives out.
But if we’re lucky and kick the conservatives out and I don’t move I’d love to be an expat in Spain for a bit.
I honestly feel so alienated by a lot of Brits if the conservatives wins. I blame the majority of things on decline because of the conservatives.
@@pipercharms7374Did you actually move to Spain?
@@Sphinxgamingworld9942 I’m waiting for the next general election to see if I should look into it properly. If conservatives win I definitely will look it to it properly.
Hi Lynda.
I knew I have seen you before.
Look up Nefertiti, she is an Egyptian queen, and she lives in Berlin at the moment.
Find a high resolution picture and compare her face to yours.
If u guys come here and u both work..u can live great here
As an American who was been living in Spain since 2009, I have one request...if you move here, make an effort, learn the language, socialize with the locals.
Don't be that weirdo who is 12 years in, speaks no Spanish and has no Spanish friends.
As a spanish i would say, life here is good, if what u studied has more and better pay exits you will be much better than with an average job, right now on spain, particularly big cities like madrid and barcelona the price of the rent is going to heaven, kinda hard to rent a house alone having an average salary, in the other places, prices of rent are going high too but not like in big cities, you know, spanish people, wants money only to enjoy their lifes, does an average job gives you that freedom? well it deppends where do you live, but i would say that most of young spanish people on big cities are still living with their parents while saving money for in a future get a house, there are also a lot well paid jobs, but sadly this jobs are only jobs that you need university titles and lucky to get them, im a software engineer, and i have the luck to live in my own house, paying my rent and still having money for my free time, spending on good food, restaurants, etc but, as i said before thats not the reality of all people here, i wouldnt say they are living a bad life, but you know, everyeone like to leave their home when they feel ready for it, but many people now cant do that cause of the recen high prices on rent, this all topics are about politics obviously, we hope this gonna change soon, but as a couple, even having average salaries, u can get a good rent in a good city, have your money for your own wellnes and hobbies, and the lands to enjoy, thats my lovely Spain, i have to luck to visit other countries, learn about them, buti would never leave my lands cause i really love how we live here, how peoeple are compared with most of people of europe, i guess italian and greeks are the european people more similar than spanish people, we have the Roman Empire blood in our body even if we are 3000 km away. Hope this comment helps you, and let me know if you want to know more about it, it will be a pleasure to me, to tell you how i think spain is in my subjetive experience living in since i born and sorry for my bad english, im still learning it and i know there are a lot wrong sentences in here, but i hope you guys can understand me.
I enjoyed a lot listening to your opinions and takes on this video. Hope you guys living a happy life.
Abrazos desde España!
Yo vivo en barcelona y vivo tranquila con 1300€ al mes (14 pagas) a las afueras en una cuidad pequeña tengo vacaciones con dos sueldos en el piso sería mejor más margen pero es viable.
Wow! Esta bien! Necesitamos volver a Espana y vamos a Barcelona ✌️
@@loners4life you will not be able to have a flat for yourself with 1300€ a month in barcelona. With 1300€ you get a room in a shared flat and dont save a dime after food, clothes, services, transportation etc.. A flat for you two will be above 1k a month. If you are in the tech industy you can make anything between 2k and 3k a month(after taxes) , if you are not on that industry i will not choose barcelona or madrid.
Trabajar para vivir y no vivir para el trabajo, una frase simple, pero que encierra toda una manera de vivir y de ver la vida.
suena bien hasta que se acaban las paguitas y alguien tiene que pagar la fiesta. El socialismo se ve de lujo hasta que te conviertes en cuba. Sin ser competitivo estas condenado a la miseria, los recursos son finitos, hay que competir nos guste o no con otras civilizaciones, saludos.
@@TOPSTOPI No he cobrado una paga en mis 40 años, si usted quiere vivir para el trabajo, le haremos la lápida de oro, un saludo.
Maybe that wasn’t absent, that kind of “digestive” drinks are called “Licor de Hierbas”, “Herbs liquor”. It’s very common.
I'm from Galicia but I work in Valencia. 14k €/year is a really good amount of money to live into the 3rd most important city of Spain. In Galicia you can live reeeeeaally well and better.
Hi there, if you're interested in what actually is a livable wage in Europe (even tho you cannot generalize the different European countries and how life is at different income situations, I can really recommend you the videos of The Black Forest Family on the matter.
They live in southern Germany and did 4 videos on that, 2 videos breaking down income, taxes, expenditures for singles and families in different income brackets (same position, average income in both countries) in the US and Germany. Particularly the low income videos'd be interesting here for you I'd guess.
The results are really surprising and I feel you'd have a lot to discuss during these videos.
Here is the title of a video that is a good place to start:
"McJob" USA vs. GERMANY: Hourly Wages, Taxes, Contributions & More of Minimum Wage Workers
the loners are planning to move to europe ... I can tell by their reactions
he is exited, she is reluctant
There is nothing wrong with foreigners asking whether you speak English if they don´t speak any Spanish. English is a universal language. That does not mean that everyone should be able to speak English. It just means it can be a common language in which to communicate. Yes, ofcourse people should make the effort to learn the language of the place they visit, but not everyone is good at learning new languages, and the older you are, the harder it gets. Also, if you are just visiting and not living there, you don´t have enough time to learn the language, though some people do make the effort to learn before visiting or learn at least a few words and phrases, which is appreciated by locals, it´s not always possible for everyone. I think there is no need to tar everyone with the same brush and say it´s wrong for visitors to expect that people in certain jobs working in hotels or very touristy places speak some level of English.
Can you imagine that the EU isn't waiting on US citizens.
We have to backup the US in every stupid money greedy government and companies actions.
Just two things to consider: guns/no guns and the fantastic Public Universal Healthcare (Seguridad Social).
A lot of Spanish city's have a Metro and higspeed train
La mayoría, o casi todas, hasta las más pequeñas.
A meal and a few beer for 15 bucks .. but never forget .. NO FREE REFILLS .. after all thats the worst ever for american it seems. Better pay 30 bucks and 10 more for tips .. but hey .. you get a free refill.
Is so the daily life only to have water what is filled again. Not really or. Already strange train of thought. But what about other things that are free here in Europe but have to be paid for expensively in the USA, think of schools, education, healthcare.
You can drink free water.
@@baramuth71 It was just a sarcastic joke since i have heared this crap so often as one of these so called "culture shocks" with that stupid refills. And i only think .. hell thats where you have to pay your extra 25% tips for. I mean of course you pay it for the beggars, err waiters, who get no real wages, but if you see it as if you pay for your bloody "free" refills .. than it would maybe not "shock" you so much anymore that you have to pay for a second drink here in europe.
And i think its also not that you get even a free refill of your beer .. only water .. right ?
@@baramuth71 Nothing is free in Europe... Is just low wage culture with crazy high taxes...
With one coke i have more than enough ,i don't need refill.
Careful with numbers of what one earns, since in US you tend to name a number BEFORE taxes, while in Europe it's AFER taxes. Like I got 1100-1140 Euros netto after taxes, my brutto salary is 1500 Euros. There is no BS process of calculating, how much taxes you should pay, unless you are self-employed.
Paella is traditional from Valencia. Other places sell it for tourists and is not good. But you can get the Ave, bullet train, from Madrid at 7 or 8 pm, and by 10 pm (Spanish dinner time ), you are in Valencia and any place in the port you will get the best paella you will ever get.
About the salaries. First those 2k a month, are really more like 3k month if it were a US paycheck, remember the taxes, and yes a couple doing both that, would be ok.
Edit: I mean, as price tags are final, what you see you pay, so usually with salary talk, what you really receive at your bank account is what you say you earn.
yes! people care about anothers person! its exciting and people care in most of Europe compared to USA
The most common gross salary in Spain is 18,480 euros, the average gross salary is 27,642 euros
14:03 If you want to try typical spanish food don't go to places for tourists. It likely won't be too good and it will be more expensive. It is better to go to the places local people go to get that type of food.
lol if you're in NY the cost is crazy higher... so easy to find the data.. happiness as well
Si queréis vivir en España, no lo hagáis en una burbuja. Aprended el idioma, poco a poco y sed abiertos de carácter y mente. No nos importa vuestra pronunciación.
I appreciated the gun part in Europe gun are not banned there are very restrictive Laws. I understand in the USA it is a part of your constitution (the 2nd, I know 😊) to create a citizen armure against a potential dictator/socialist (like the USA mainstream call it). In Europe socialism is just sharing the minimum. Of each others. Ok I pay for my no working Time, my health care, The public transportation, the peoples needs help, and others (So much on more…)
"sharing the minimum" You should must be kidding....
Americans gotta understand that food here in Spain is very regional. Paella is from Valencia, outside Valencia, and southern Cataluña to an extent, Paella is not good. And it's like that with most if not all foods.
Italy, I know for sure, has a rule, that you can get an Italian passport if you have Italian ancestors.
Taste Paella in Madrid, and not in Valencia... is Just like take a lobster in Texas, not in Maine... and tell that is a dissappointing dish. 😂
Next time you go to spain taste the cremaet and chivito
Im from burjassot and i comfirm this
Come to here for holidays and enjoy😊
what I been reading and I ask this question what more important. The Right to live or the right of freedom.
when I went to Germany. I never spoke once in German.
I do think if you actually plan to move somewhere, you should learn the language. I doubt these guys just got up and left, it probably took year or something at least. Plenty of time to get basics down so you can then start actual immersion. Immersion really only works if you use the language and you need some skills to converse with people.
How to say that you are an american without saying that you are an american:
🧠Spain = tacos & burritos 🇲🇽 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Careful making that relation around spaniards, is kind of insulting 😅
Haha trust me we wouldn’t! Spain was amazing but ya super different than Mexico obviously
@@loners4life jajaja, i know you two wouldn't. Hope u had a great time around here 😘
In Barcelona some tourist shops sell Mexican sombrero to see Americans buy them and walk around Barcelona 😂😂. Was in Chicago airport once heading back to Spain. A group of young women and ask where you in México and they said they where getting back from Barcelona 😂 With the mexican sombrero on..😂
paella contiene muchos mariscos, porque comer lo en Madrid?
It's not important (on the opposite, it's trivial), but I would like to understand: why do Americans "connect" Spain with Vermouth so much, to mention it to an American living there? Sure, they do it as well (like France and Portugal) but it's like talking about Sangria to an American living in Italy (we do it of course but it would be weird); other than English (sorry), what I am missing?
We actually had never heard of vermouth before going to Spain!
@@loners4life Bizarre, Vermouth is italian (born in Turin) you're sure never had drink it in Italy? Negroni, Americano, Martini etc, many cocktails are made with (italian) Vermouth, and many italian brand are famous: Martini-Rossi, Cinzano, Punt E Mes, Carpano, Bordiga, Del Professore etc.
Anyway, it was something trivial, I just didn't understand, that's why asking, ciao. 🍺
@@lazios I think it is probably because it is some short of tradition here to go out have one and a tapa and get back home and eat lunch on weekends with friends or family, I knew it wasn´t from here but I didn´t know it was from Italy, I have to thank Italy for them now
@@QwertyUiop-bs2zr In Italy it's traditional to have the aperitivo (eating and drinking some snacks before lunch or dinner) and it's something very well known by foreigners.
Anyway my curiosity was due to the fact that (the one who was interviewing) asked to the woman about Vermouth as if asking about the Sangria or another Spanish specialty, not because I didn't know that Vermouth was made also in Spain (I knew it, it's made in France and Portugal too).
exMichigan in Spain 🇪🇸🇪🇺🌹👍
Its not only Americans fleeing to Spain, that country is the Florida of Europe!
What about the spainiards then.. well its complicated, high uninploiment, very difficult to find or buy a place to live, they move out frome there parents very late!, Kinda not befor they got marriged and got some childs! They are traditional very family oriented.. so one can end up as owner of the house, with the parents living there to!
Mañana que hay de comer?
El alquiler, depende, los hay mucho más baratos y mucho más caros depende de la ciudad y la zona. El concepto de vivir es distinto al americano, porque ganar mucho dinero no significa vivir mejor, aquí un ayudante de albañil come, trabaja menos horas tiene más vacaciones y mejor sanidad que un alto ejecutivo de cualquier empresa de allí, a eso se llama CALIDAD DE VIDA. Salir después del curro y tomar unos vinos o unas cervezas es un lujo al alcance de todos.
yeah with 2000 euros monthly u live weel in spain and portugal not very good for germany uk , france
Idk where you got that country shape but that's not spain in the thumbnail
2.000€ is decent in Spain. U can live by yourself perfectly. 1.000€ is not a big deal, anyways the minimum wage now is about 1100-1200€ monthly. Problem of 1000€ is depends where u live. U live in Asturias, u even can save money, u live in Madrid, Barcelona or Palma, u are fucking poor. Only the renting a house will cost 800€
spain and portugal also
When it comes to "gender equality" that is probably more equal in western and northern Europe simply because we are less religious.
Still not equal but way closer than the US which lags decades and are going backwards.
In spain people works to live no lives for work ,
😅food 😅
La cultura española no tiene nada que ver con la europea. Las formas de vida son totalmente diferentes.
to have good living conditions shouldnt depend on the money u have but a measure made from ur government
Lo primero aprendan el idioma.
do you live in
US now and or plan travel to Europe again? The USA should try to be more European
IMHO
That’s a big mistake you made buying Paella in Madrid, Spain revealed has covered this many times. Madrid is not a coastal city so you will not get a fresh Paella, you will get microwaved crap passed off to unsuspecting foreigners.
Ya we found that out the hard way haha 😂
@@1650million okay, sorry if my comment caused any offence. No need for the Suprise MF!!! I’m not surprised.
the unemployment rate with young people is very high in spain.
Not anymore. Spain is the European country where unemployment has been falling the most in recent years, and it is expected to continue like this for many more years.
@@progresistorico Still the worst with 12.5%. So you mean Spain is coming from horrible to very bad...
i know us is your country and u guys are attached to it but be wise and move out if u can
The Americans speak only English are very bad students! In Europe the people speak 2 o 3 languages this is the normal., are very smart.
exMichigan in Spain. I speak Spanish and Catalán while living here and now learning Italian.
Been here since 2000..
If I can land a great job in Spain I would move in a heartbeat. Apparently its tougher for Americans because we still have to pay US taxes while abroad. Spain is the mother land for me being from Puerto Rico so its more than just about money. The slower culture is more similar to what I was born into. I’m sure it has its own problems ofcourse but the trade off seems worth it even if just temporary. I love America but we are going in the wrong direction with both parties.
If you have committed yourself to leave the united states for a better life then why are you harping on about how good the united states is , if the united states was that good then why leave , answers on a postcard everyone
Are you two Brazilians born in usa i didn't watch the whole video 🤔
We are American born but her family is from Egypt and his from Mexico and France ✌️
When you say some guys are « cat calling » in the USA 🤔 are they meowing to girls!? 😂🤢🤣🤣
It is not a little but a lot too much for me ! 🤣
It’s a common term over here! Haha 😂
And the local food is not just much more affordable, it is also so much better...
And the orange trees lining the streets everywhere are soooo amazing !
What I still do not fully understand is for which weird political reason the locals call their local language (it is not a dialect !) Valenciano while it is 100 % Catalan.
I would not want to live in Valencia, however, as it is simply way too hot in the summertime.
Well, technically speaking, 'catalan' is the language (from Catalonia, with a few dialects depending the zone), but you can say that there's no good Catalán, it's formed of dialects (ok, we mostly take the Barcelona's one as reference, as it's the most spoken), so in Valencia, they've Valencian.
Once said that, for political reasons, some politicians refuses the fact and sell that it's a language of its own and different from Catalan, a political weapon to earn votes).
Anyway, if you visit Barcelona, I recommend some days for Barcelona and then visit other amazing places near, by train or bus, or renting a car, there's muuuch more out there ;)
In Valencia they speak catalan.
sure u did (this video is a trap) XD
Si vais a algun lado sin dejar las ideas que han gecho viesyra vida tan. desagradable que quereis iros...¿ de que os sirve marcharos...? Y si estais buscando mas de lo mismo y no quereis cambiar vuestra mentalidad....¿ Por que intentar marcharse...??....A mi me gusta el lugar donde vivo y mi forma de vida y no deseo irme a ningun lado.....Cuando piensas en marcharte, algo no funciona, tal vez lo mejor sea cambiar tus pautas y tu forma de plantearte la vida ... Si no, te llevaras la mierda contigo.....
...perdón por los errores de teclado, estoy caminando y hay demasiada luz....