John Butler, Ocean - A Classical Musician’s First Listen and Reaction

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  • This is quite far from the metal genre that has been taking a bit of my attention lately, and it was a very rewarding experience! Probably the closest to classical music that I have come across so far, while remaining modern and fresh-sounding.
    Here’s the link to the original song by John Butler:
    • OCEAN - John Butler - ...
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  • @VirginRock
    @VirginRock  ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Leave your questions ONLY here, please!

    • @richardj9016
      @richardj9016 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ?

    • @jimstewart8122
      @jimstewart8122 ปีที่แล้ว

      When are you going to do Steven Wilson's Routine accompanied with the animated video for added emotional wreckage?
      😁
      I know this is not the questions you're looking for, but I couldn't pass up the opportunity to get in early. 👍👍

    • @sgt.blkdog3840
      @sgt.blkdog3840 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why do you continue to subject yourself to a genre (metal) that you clearly don’t enjoy, and doesn’t appear that you ever will?

    • @rubikmonat6589
      @rubikmonat6589 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you resist diving into an artist like this that piques your interest?

    • @a2zme
      @a2zme ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When are you going to react to some *master-level Rock&Roll compositions again?.. a bunch of the stuff you've done lately has been very genre-specific .. hope you go back to where you began: The Masters (The Beatles, Queen, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, etc - there's a ton more, barely scratched the surface there) .. not complaining (your channel, do as you like) .. I'm just watching out for your ears.
      Rock on Amy! :)

  • @avici0182
    @avici0182 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I've listen to this song for nearly 13 years now. This is one of those songs I consider my life songs. Like an ocean wave, it's been there through moments of happiness and pain. It takes me to places where I've been and to places I haven't been yet. It lets me know that everything will be okay

    • @alexeyman7301
      @alexeyman7301 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly, I'm the same way.
      I'm 32 now, and there are only a handful of songs that have followed me this long.
      It's honestly not that hard for me to answer "what's your favorite song?"
      It can be any of a few that I'm very confident will probably be in my arsenal for the rest of my life as well at this point.

    • @jeremykothe2847
      @jeremykothe2847 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is passion.

  • @ragnarironspear1791
    @ragnarironspear1791 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    John Butler is a legend

    • @PeterBuwen
      @PeterBuwen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ...in eastern New South Wales. 😉
      Al Di Meola, John McLaughlin or Paco Di Lucia are guitar legends.

    • @dr.alimpije511
      @dr.alimpije511 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PeterBuwen oh ,I love that trio,its part of my collection ...also paco de lucia solo albums

    • @PeterBuwen
      @PeterBuwen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dr.alimpije511 Yes, the live album of the Trio was a MUST in the 1980s, isn't it?
      Well, due to my deep longing for good rock music caused here, I came across Supertramp again. I watched the concert in Paris in 1979. Although I used up five tissues, I also regained hope that the world is not as bad as Metal pretends.😁

    • @DeeezNutz
      @DeeezNutz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Met him about 7 years ago, traveling Australia, working at his place. Real genuine and interested person. Fun thing was they were practicing at the time, so had live music working! I didnt know at the time who he was, but I sure did after those days!

    • @Massygo
      @Massygo 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      this number was ispired by the ocean, when John left USA to autralia/newzealand he did cross the pacific by boat. That made him compose this fantastic tune

  • @noteverton
    @noteverton ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This is being played on a 12 string guitar with only eleven strings. If you watch the video of Ocean 2012, you'll see exactly what he's doing. He taps on the sound box and has specially shaped finger nails. He's using a swell pedal and a pedal for the bass drum. I hear a lot of Scottish and Irish influences in this piece and some English folk music.

    • @CeasefireNow2024
      @CeasefireNow2024 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hear gypsy influences in his music and I think he went to India and trained under Sitar masters. I can hear that too.
      Also he has his Aussie Victorian Goldfields ancestry but also one of his great great grandfathers was a Buglarian revolutionary. So he has that eastern European ancestry too. His music is just worldly and beautiful.

  • @dannivizion
    @dannivizion 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    You said "electric guitar" in here. It's an acoustic with 11 strings. I hope some time later that you found a video to watch him doing it. It is incredible.
    The "Spanish" sound you're hearing is probably the influence of American Bluegrass and Australian Folk in the modern Australian Roots Music genre.

    • @jooohan
      @jooohan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      John has a magnetic pickup (Seymour Duncan Mag Mic) in his Maton 11 string (apart from Maton proprietary pickup which is piezo combined with microphone) which he does play on an overdrive, creating the "electric" effect. For an uninitiated person (as far as pick-ups are concerned), I'd say "electric" is fair enough assessment.

    • @joshperry8125
      @joshperry8125 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jooohan And it is his OG Maton. I think it's retired now.

    • @russdy1982
      @russdy1982 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      His live performance of this song at Fuji rock Japan was incredible.

  • @sicknarty9457
    @sicknarty9457 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The fact you called out clear warm water and swimming through coral, is so on point considering he's from Australia.

    • @bradeast8021
      @bradeast8021 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hes from perth in western australia which is not known for coral, australia is very very large… still a fair call but dont go thinking we’re very small… you have to drive days north or to the other side of the country to find good coral

  • @markholan4534
    @markholan4534 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You need to see him play it live. He is mesmerizing to watch. My favorite guitarist and I've seen some great guitarists in my life

  • @rubikmonat6589
    @rubikmonat6589 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This song is quite special to me, every few months, If I'm having a tumultuous overwhelming day at work, I take some time out and close my eyes and listen to this song. Somehow it feels refreshing, it takes me out of the pressures of work much like a swim in the ocean. I always come back refreshed with a different perspective.

  • @dregs33s98
    @dregs33s98 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hi, So I have not commented yet but have been watching for a while now. As someone who has spent the last 50+ years listening to a wide array of music from classical to death metal I can't even imagine how overwhelming this must be for Vlad to curate Amy's journey. The variety of music even so far has been awesome! As long as Vlad and Amy stay away from the country music genre I'll be along for the ride, and likely enjoying myself. Thanks sharing your adventure.

  • @JoseElNazar
    @JoseElNazar ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you, I think that seeing him playing it would've added more but this is hands down the best analysis of the son. Thank you very much!

  • @biased1
    @biased1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Definitely more Irish in its roots. This is my soul song that lifts my spirits - it’s like soaring. I had the privilege of seeing him play this at Red Rocks -a truly park experience.

  • @kalebnolan8343
    @kalebnolan8343 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can only speculate but I think the song is called ocean because it’s about traveling oceans but at the end of the day you come back home. That’s why it keeps coming back to the same sound more or less. No matter where you go, no matter the oceans you travel you’ll always come back home.

  • @GordaoSemFuturo
    @GordaoSemFuturo ปีที่แล้ว

    Your channel is a GEM! Thank you! I found you through your Opeth video but i love John Butler too!

  • @stephenburgess626
    @stephenburgess626 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad you enjoyed it. Can't wait for the analysis of it 😀

  • @teresab1341
    @teresab1341 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoying learning from you and listening to the music. Some I've heard and some I've not. Thank you!

  • @lupcokotevski2907
    @lupcokotevski2907 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've always seen this piece as invoking the gradual movement of low tide to high tide at the beach, capturing the gentle ebbs and flows and progressing to the eventual arrival of the waves crashing on the shore. I can also hear the squawking of sea gulls, which are ever present on Australian beaches.

    • @stuartdubbs9605
      @stuartdubbs9605 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree to this idea but on a different perspective, I see a lot of what the ocean has to hold. Within its calm joyful sunny days you have glimpses of a storm turning more violent. The first few breaks are like seeing the overcast from shore and sighing relea as it passes until it hits you

    • @DaCheat100
      @DaCheat100 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stuartdubbs9605 beautifully said.

  • @mikeconway9849
    @mikeconway9849 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very nice reaction Amy! Not heard this artist before but I enjoyed it very much. He brings to mind an artist from my youth - Phil Keaggy of Glass Harp.

  • @LuckyOwl_
    @LuckyOwl_ 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This is my favourite song. It’s haunting the more you listen to it

  • @peterhughes8699
    @peterhughes8699 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Well that made a nice break from the metal songs people have been thrusting at Amy. John Butler lives near me in australia and I've seen him live many times. He always plays acoustics, often 12 stringers, several dobros and often with slide. He's a temperamental, often self indulgent guy. His best albums are his 3 first ones imo

    • @vohbovohborian28
      @vohbovohborian28 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good, because although I love classic rock, I dislike metal to great extent.

    • @Rossstewart88
      @Rossstewart88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Home is his best album, Faith is his best song. Fight me

    • @tomsan7742
      @tomsan7742 ปีที่แล้ว

      i don't know about butler's other tunes, but ocean is done with an 11-string - just a single g-string ( no octave paring )

    • @MrStredders
      @MrStredders 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@tomsan7742it’s also done in Open C (‘Sea’) tuning, which I think is pretty nice 😊

  • @peterliljeholmen5703
    @peterliljeholmen5703 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My first listen to this song and artist too, thnx for sharing the listening with you Amy and to get your fantastic inputs. Liked it a lot and will dig deeper into his music. Came to think about Nick Drake when I heard this and I am pretty sure you would also like him. So as a suggestion for a reaction, I would recommend River man or any other song from Nick Drake!

  • @jovana_r
    @jovana_r ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I am not a huge guitar lover, so I haven't heard many guitar instrumentals like this, but I have to say that this was really beautiful. I didn't expect to like it but I do, very much. 🖤

    • @Ulexcool
      @Ulexcool ปีที่แล้ว

      I´m so confused.

    • @jovana_r
      @jovana_r ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ulexcool Why?

    • @Lonewolfmike
      @Lonewolfmike ปีที่แล้ว

      Check out what Roy Clark can do with a guitar. th-cam.com/video/QhiKgeJV3k0/w-d-xo.html

  • @rabiatorthegreat6163
    @rabiatorthegreat6163 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is something quite different from my usual fare, and I like it. Even if this particular piece might not go on my play list. But reaction channels like this tend to take you to new places in music, and sometimes you find something really amazing 🙂.

  • @Chamomileable
    @Chamomileable ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What you're thinking of with the effect after the change is a form of legato unique to instruments with fretboards called hammer-ons and pull-offs or tapping. By hammering the fretting hand finger down onto the string and/or pulling it off with the right force, you can transition from one note to another without needing to pluck the string again. Additionally, the percussive effect is achieved on acoustic guitars by drumming on the body of the guitar, using the sound hole the same way that drum resonators work. By combining the drumming and tapping, you can get self-accompanied segments like the ones you pointed out.

  • @TheDoctorFlay
    @TheDoctorFlay ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for introducing me to this whoever picked it. Very enjoyable.

  • @seacruise7383
    @seacruise7383 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Enjoyed hearing how you interpret the "meaning" of this song. It is a roller coaster of emotions....best enjoyed alone for me😊

  • @michaellueneburg2261
    @michaellueneburg2261 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great 1st listen! My first listen as well. I get water, but I'm not sure it brings me to the ocean. .....Well maybe near the end.

  • @renepeterse1884
    @renepeterse1884 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you venture into acoustic guitar work, you need to dive into open tunings. You can find all about it on the internet. It opens a range of opportunities for guitarists. And you need to dive into John Fahey.

  •  ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Amy, that was fun. I didn't expect John Butler in this series, but that was a nice surprise. If I'm not mistakes John plays an acoustic 12-string guitar with a pickup, instead of an solidbody electric. But I'll go to the analysis video now. The John Butler Trio is well worth a look, if you like this kind of music.
    Something else you might enjoy is Ayreon. It is Prog-Rock/Metal, but has Violin, Cello and Flute and composition wise I would place it near Musical Theater or maybe even Opera. Every Album is an entire story and every vocalist has a character he/she plays. Sometimes there is even narration. The composer behind the project is Arjen Anthony Lucassen from the Netherlands.
    The usual piece to start with is "The Day That The World Breaks Down" which has Pop-Up commentary from Arjen giving some background information. And it is the first song of the 2017 album The Source and is in some way a kind of overture to the album, introducing all the characters. Maybe Vlad has heard of them and can recommend a better song.
    And now I'm off to the John Butler analysis...

  • @stevenglenn4176
    @stevenglenn4176 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    All roads lead to one player...Tommy Emmanuel.

  • @vincentdumont-mackay7142
    @vincentdumont-mackay7142 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I did not know this musician. Nice discovery. Thank you :).

  • @MEH-xn7yb
    @MEH-xn7yb ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was hoping Chris Squire’s bass-only fish would immediately swim by but it looks like we missed that little joy

    • @andrewbarber8758
      @andrewbarber8758 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes is in her future, it cannot be avoided in this type of endeavor.

  • @tonytroiani6599
    @tonytroiani6599 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amy your analysis of classical rock music is always excellent.
    I would very much enjoy listening to your inspirational analysis of the Moody Blues knights in white Satin brilliantly sung by Justin Hayward.
    This band had a habit of blending orchestra and rock music, with some ochestral ensemble but primarily the mellotron
    knights in White Satin is featured at the end of the album, Days Of Future Past, last but one track and the last track smoothly following on into poetry.
    I'm not completely taken by the whole album, but that is the same for many classical and pop albums, where you would injoy one particular part or track, I'm hoping you will find this piece with the following poem interesting. I look forward to your response 🥂

  • @dannyhedges9088
    @dannyhedges9088 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He also doesn’t play this the same way twice.

  • @caro.k2958
    @caro.k2958 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Definitely in the ocean for sure I’m from near John in Perth and this to me epitomizes the crystal ocean here and spending time there playing drifting swimming exploring.❤

  • @katsboy22
    @katsboy22 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Let's challenge her marvelous brain with some YES - CLOSE TO THE EDGE

  • @seawolf_USA
    @seawolf_USA ปีที่แล้ว +4

    An incredible guitarist for sure

  • @Pietervanloon1996
    @Pietervanloon1996 ปีที่แล้ว

    A really nice suprise to hear this song here! I've been amazed for some time to see how one man can create this much music on one instrument (there's a youtube video of his studio recording, great recommendation!)
    On a different note, I wouldn't mind that when you mix/edit your video's, you put the sound of the music slightly louder than the intermitten parts. I love to emerse myself in the songs that pass on this channel, wouldn't hurt if they'd be slightly louder

  • @jeffbrehove2614
    @jeffbrehove2614 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ooooo! LOVE John Butler. Love the John Butler Trio. "Daniella" is my personal favorite

  • @alansmith1989
    @alansmith1989 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Made a nice change from last few listens. I like variety in these reaction videos. It reminded me a bit of the style of Bert Jansch.

    • @hansmahr8627
      @hansmahr8627 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The most annoying thing about reaction channels is when they get taken over by one specific fan group which only recommends stuff from one genre and suddenly it's all metal or all K-Pop or whatever. There's so much amazing music in all sorts of genres, I don't know why you would limit yourself like that. In general the recommendations of the people on channels like this are often very limited, at least in terms of what's getting upvoted. I really love this channel and its approach, would hate if it became focused mostly on metal. There's already too much of it for my taste and not even the really great stuff.

  • @joeschmoe3665
    @joeschmoe3665 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of my favorite and most advanced idiosyncratic guitar pieces ever and I have been playing guitar for 20 years, believe me I can play this but to keep his rythm and tie it all together is incredibly him, hence the word idiosyncratic

  • @RennersPT-C
    @RennersPT-C 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I admire your skill to hear exactly what is shown on the visual. The Spanish influence is also a perfect pick up

  • @yellowtruckproductions7502
    @yellowtruckproductions7502 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After she's worked through Rock genres, Amy would be ready for some funk! Love to hear her comments on Ghost Note!

  • @dbutcher84
    @dbutcher84 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It did sound like an acoustic guitar, and I believe some of the differences you may have heard is that it is played with metal strings rather than nylon. There probably were some effects added also, such as reverb.

    • @rubikmonat6589
      @rubikmonat6589 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The live version he plays an 11 string acoustic. I don't know id it's custom or one fell off and he liked it.

    • @dbutcher84
      @dbutcher84 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rubikmonat6589 I thought it had that fuller sound but couldn't quite tell.

  • @mburl
    @mburl ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love my rock and metal but I love this kind of acoustic guitar playing too, very relaxing to listen to.
    Edit: I can personally reccomend Yvette Young and Jon Gomm

  • @goitidanielaser2167
    @goitidanielaser2167 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Took me 4 months to learn this. This was like 2-3 years ago. To this day I have yet to reach his tempo and I am still improving and adding my own touch to it. Very complex song. One of my favorite solo guitar songs.
    Edit: As a player who learnt this song I can confirm its not as easy as it sounds. The shift between fingerpicking and strumming; shift between themes are not that easy and some rhythms are quite hard specially in his tempo. What I love about this piece is that you are always curious to see how he continues every theme, how does he resolve the melody.

  • @beachamj
    @beachamj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man I wished you had the video along with this 1!

  • @dangibb1329
    @dangibb1329 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The ebb and flow of the rhythms of life eluded to as a metaphorical ocean.

  • @mattlast4093
    @mattlast4093 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i had to have a wee giggle at " some kind of percussive effect hes doing on the guitar there".......... yah.........you could say that 🙂

  • @simonmarshall180
    @simonmarshall180 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m so sorry. I didn’t see your request for only questions. So. What key s is he playing ? I love your music posts. ❤ Simon in West Australia.

  • @robfriesen2341
    @robfriesen2341 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is a very nice piece of guitar work. I had not heard of John Butler before this so I am interested. If you want to try something else in the instrumental guitar world, check out Gabrielle and Rodrigo. They are two Mexican guitarists who only do instrumental acoustic music. Tamacun is one of my favorite pieces.

    • @Someguy_8e2
      @Someguy_8e2 ปีที่แล้ว

      *Rodrigo Y Gabriella

  • @markholan4534
    @markholan4534 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He plays an amplified 11 string acoustic guitar

  • @jonasbjork6593
    @jonasbjork6593 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great music, misguided title. I am more reminded of a mountain stream, a small flow of water that is sometimes fast and turbulent and sometimes slow and mellow. Almost like a controlled chaos, a little like this piece.

  • @demianseale501
    @demianseale501 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loved listening to this. Reminds me of Michael Hedges.

    • @dr.alimpije511
      @dr.alimpije511 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes ,because he pioneered some guitar playing techniques that Butler obviously uses (copies) in this piece

  • @nickcruz5609
    @nickcruz5609 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can you do more old school rock? I enjoyed your take on DP led zep Ect.

  • @slothkng
    @slothkng ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like you should check out Jason Becker he was diagnosed with ALS in his 20s but he was an awesome guitarist and he still composes stuff for others now

  • @terencemcnamara3855
    @terencemcnamara3855 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Peter Greens Albatross is anoher guitar gem out there. Nice video.

    • @dr.alimpije511
      @dr.alimpije511 ปีที่แล้ว

      don't even try to compare it with this ..Albatross is masterpiece composition...timeless

    • @terencemcnamara3855
      @terencemcnamara3855 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dr.alimpije511 Ohhh i 100% agree with you.

  • @karangetangsteel9996
    @karangetangsteel9996 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This song expresses true musical freedom, unbound by outdated and dull conventions.

  • @xxKanuKxx
    @xxKanuKxx ปีที่แล้ว +27

    amazing reaction, as usual... He's using an acoustic guitar. The effect you're talking about is achieved by hammering his fingers onto the fretboard (as opposed to plucking the string) with gradually increasing force, so it gets louder... Most of this song is done using this hammering effect - which gives a whole other dimension to the dynamics of a guitar. Hammering is more percussive, and a combination of picking and hammering allows for incredibly fast fingering.
    You can watch him do it here: th-cam.com/video/hQjwkXrcUrs/w-d-xo.html

    • @yuriyrozhankovsky4833
      @yuriyrozhankovsky4833 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think this live version is even more interesting than studio version. May be it is early version or adopted to live perfomance

    • @callumnolan
      @callumnolan ปีที่แล้ว +6

      His 12-string (technically 11-string) acoustic guitar also has a pickup that he feeds through effects pedals including overdrive, which he is mixing in for the aforementioned effect.

    • @mchamster7
      @mchamster7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@callumnolan The part being referred to is the swells, which he's doing with a volume pedal. Cuts it back when he starts the hammers & pull-offs, then brings it in before rapidly cutting it back again.

    • @callumnolan
      @callumnolan ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mchamster7 That's what I was referring to. I called it an overdrive but I think you're right in that it's a volume pedal mixing in the siginal from the higher-gain pickup.

    • @jeremykothe2847
      @jeremykothe2847 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No it's a pedal at least in the live version.

  • @bradeast8021
    @bradeast8021 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The fact that every reaction video I have seen takes his studio version of the song is interesting, it really needs to be heard live, it has so much life when experienced by others, really a Sartre masterpiece, instead of hell, heaven is other people, this song feeds off and nourishes the energy of its audience.. the live versions are infinitely more rich, nuanced and alive… please watch his live renditions, particularly fuji and federation square…. An unending masterpiece

  • @ianbotha9912
    @ianbotha9912 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the first time I hear this piece too... It sounds to me like an interpretation of mariachi guitar techniques. A fascinating investigation might be Seagull by Carlos Santana. Imagine that, Spanish Rock and roll!

  • @brianMcGranahan0311
    @brianMcGranahan0311 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a giant fan of this song, I was 30 seconds into your video and excite to watch your mind blow.
    Also, you really need to watch him play this to really appreciate the complexity of this song.

  • @tylerdurden5597
    @tylerdurden5597 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😊 Nice React thanks from Brasil, Love Jhon Betler - Ocean

  • @fdub1189
    @fdub1189 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You can see what he is doing when hitting/tapping his guitar and using pedals in this studio recording from 2012: th-cam.com/video/jdYJf_ybyVo/w-d-xo.html

  • @vaguetymora826
    @vaguetymora826 ปีที่แล้ว

    John grew up where I live in Australia. Yup, that’s pretty much how we feel about the Ocean here. Also, he’s using a stomp box. That’s a wooden box with a microphone in it that you tap your foot on.

  • @yinoveryang4246
    @yinoveryang4246 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    10:40 The "swell" is happening in the studio, it's also panning left to right, and there's EQ changing. Sometimes guitarists use the volume knob, but this is not that, this sounds like production. It gives some variety to sections that would otherwise be fairly uniform to listen to.

    • @jeremykothe2847
      @jeremykothe2847 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      In at least some live versions I've seen, he controls both effects she highlighted with foot pedals.

    • @yinoveryang4246
      @yinoveryang4246 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jeremykothe2847 yes there something maybe a volume pedal, and some kind of breaking up, that could be any variety of things. that hadn’t occurred to me.

    • @yinoveryang4246
      @yinoveryang4246 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeremykothe2847 well I could be wrong

  • @chrisparti
    @chrisparti ปีที่แล้ว

    When he is playing this piece live, you can see he has a microphone in front of him, picking up the acoustic sound of the guitar, the strings, and his tapping etc, He also has two leads from his acoustic guitar, one is from a bridge mic/pickup and the other is for the conventional 6 pole pickup mounted in the sound hole. I think the pickup in the sound hole is routed through his pedal board, which he swells in with his left foot using a volume pedal, (which probably has a compressor and bit of gain added). He uses this to increase the volume and urgency of the sound to add dynamics, all three feeds would be mixed together. He also has a wood block for his right foot which has a pickup attached which acts like a bass drum. You really should watch the video, if even just for your own enjoyment, it is mesmerising, he is completely lost in the piece...

  • @JG-lx5pm
    @JG-lx5pm ปีที่แล้ว +3

    something even BETTER than this is "Addagio for strings" it REALLY and I mean REALLY grabs you, so much that is intended classic yet it is heard in discos, nightclubs and new music styles, is that good.

    • @Rossstewart88
      @Rossstewart88 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be an interesting reaction

  • @przemekz4
    @przemekz4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Instrumental masterpiece.

  • @Thatguy-ev9gg
    @Thatguy-ev9gg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great track. Will definitely be listening to itagain soon. It kind of reminds me of Undertale for some reason. Speaking of which, would love to see a reaction to the Undertale 5th Anniversary Concert at some point.

  • @jjvoges4037
    @jjvoges4037 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sure someone pointed it out, but on a technical point, this isn't an electric guitar. It's an acoustic guitar with a pickup. So, primarily acoustic, but you can edit the sound by connecting it to effects pedals. I believe he is using a volume pedal and an expression pedal. The video shows him playing with the pedals as well.

  • @chefstar72
    @chefstar72 ปีที่แล้ว

    The beginning makes me think of someone going out for an early morning surf, taking in the surroundings before paddling out and getting ready to catch the wave, which is where the new tempo kicks in. Almost triumphant and uplifting at that point.

  • @manna6618
    @manna6618 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a song for Western Australian's....who have looked beneath the surface of the ocean and discovered the world of whales, dolphins, dugongs, blue Manna crabs and Western Rock Lobsters, abalone and oysters, mussels, starfish and turtle's... you can't understand it till you put your head beneath the surface in the special country. X You totally got it, understood in every intricate way. X

    • @bluechill4767
      @bluechill4767 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      agree with you , live here as well most will never know how special we have it , very special guitarist from freo

  • @Lonewolfmike
    @Lonewolfmike ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you ever checked out Roy Clark and his guitar playing??

  • @edwardofgreene
    @edwardofgreene ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The first time I heard this it was on a TH-cam video. One woman commented "Whew!!! I sure hope that guitar is at least 18 years old."
    Kinda summed it up I think.

  • @woodwind314
    @woodwind314 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watch/listen to the live version. Forget about the title. Analyze less, or at least not as compartmentalized. This song is a whole. Live version: th-cam.com/video/hQjwkXrcUrs/w-d-xo.html

  • @mchamster7
    @mchamster7 ปีที่แล้ว

    "This would be some nice background music..." waaaaiiit for it.... :)

  • @user-jy3jo9ul7e
    @user-jy3jo9ul7e ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Never heard the piece, it's very nice, although it sounds to me more like an irish/celtic music theme, rather than spanish.

  • @edwardrutledge2765
    @edwardrutledge2765 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s not difficult discerning Spanish guitar influences, but since the focus here is Virgin Rock, I’ll note the The Who crept into this piece as well.

    • @JulioLeonFandinho
      @JulioLeonFandinho ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't listen any spanish influence... being spanish myself and a guitar aficionado. Nothing here related to the long tradition of spanish guitar...
      didn't like this piece either, I don't get why people is fascinated by this style of percusive acoustic guitar playing... there's also a rich american guitar tradition far from this and much more interesting than a player hammering his guitar... I liked the intro, though, because it has harmony and melody

  • @alf3654
    @alf3654 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As far as metal is concerned, i think Fade to Black (from Metallica) would be a good option to listen to. Or even Iron Maiden with songs like Run to the Hills, Hallowed By The Name or Fear of the Dark.

  • @MartijnHover
    @MartijnHover ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is a 12-string guitar. It consists of 6 pairs of strings, the highest pair being tuned the same, the lowest four an octave apart.

    • @user-pd7il3xz5j
      @user-pd7il3xz5j 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      John actually removed a string.

  • @simonmarshall180
    @simonmarshall180 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    John plays 11 strings. Which makes his sound unique.

    • @felixalcott
      @felixalcott ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I used to listen to him busking in Fremantle and Perth back in the day. I can't remember which string he used as as a single string, but he did use a 12 string acoustic guitar with 11 strings. I especially remember long fingernails on his right hand.

  • @tjampman
    @tjampman ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh, Why did you stop in the middle of the guitar solo? Thats the best bart
    😝

  • @Keiren1
    @Keiren1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved your thoughts on this! I have an interesting rabbit hole for you to go down if you are interested. Seeing that you are a harpist I thought you might be interested to know that there are hybrid instruments called harp guitars that a group of fingerstyle guitar players use. If you are interested in this I highly recommend the live version of Sayanara.Calm performed by Don Alder on harp guitar(he has other performanced on normal guitars). I also recommend The Friend I never met by Andy Mckee also on harp guitar. ^^

  • @fifthhoven
    @fifthhoven 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think, while there are also small water movements, it's later clearly about a fairly wavy, and eventually even windy and spraying, sea, with a horizon-view.
    Someone else pointed out how it's only in one key, and this, combined with a clear centre of one note or a few oftentimes, reinforces that horizon-view, I think.
    I simply don't think one needs to go underwater to understand, feel or envision it at all.
    Maybe saying it's underwater is some way to compensate for how some seem to assume it's in the northern hemisphere or even northern Europe, when I think one clearly feels the Australian influence. And that little bit of extra maybe seems to motivate you to go underwater...

  • @johnthompson6374
    @johnthompson6374 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun piece. Peace/JT

  • @carlnielsen3477
    @carlnielsen3477 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here’s a little fantasy ….
    Imagine a video with someone listen to Beethoven’s fifth symphony for the first time.
    “Ba ba ba baaaaahh” - “I’m just gonna stop there. That’s an interesting little motif. Like someone knocking on the door. It sounds very dramatic. It is not just a friendly neighbor. There’s definitely something going on here. Let’s see what happens next.” - “bar bar bar baaahhh.” - “Oh, that’s interesting. A little variation of the first notes. A bit like a question and an ansver, or a bit like going up a hill and then down on the other side. And how dramatic. It is definitely something crucial going on here. Let’s continue.” - “Di li de lu, di li de lu” - “Oh, yeah now there’s some exiting embroidery on that opening motif. And with those higher notes that sort of throws it around. Almost like some flock of birds being startled by that knock on the door and now fluttering about. I think that is very fascinating. It reminds be a bit of …..
    And then imagine someone watching that video getting interrupted in their experience everytime they are just about to find an entry to the music, with an increasing feeling of amputation.
    No - sorry!
    Please forgive me. I guess I just watched too many of your videos in too short amount of times. I’m aware of getting more irritated and less friendly though the last row of videos. Think I’m gonna take a break, read a good book or something, and then come back when I’m on the other side of this state of overload.
    You can get too much of everything. I love ice cream, but I would get quite uncomfortable if I was sitting eating ice cream all day.
    So see you later, Amy. And keep up the good work. 🙂

  • @G1Arduo
    @G1Arduo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Song feels like a story being told of old friends reuniting and taking a trip for old time's sake.

  • @simonmarshall180
    @simonmarshall180 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He has his guitar made for him. So he can play 11 strings in a finger style. By Maton.

  • @dannyhedges9088
    @dannyhedges9088 ปีที่แล้ว

    He says this was his way to communicate to people without language. He was a busker on the streets, and often didn’t speak the same language as those watching. He does use a pedal for the added sounds. He does use a kick drum, but post percussion is done with his fingers. It is a 12 string guitar.

  • @DarrellW_UK
    @DarrellW_UK ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that one of the biggest things you may be picking up in the guitar is that it is a 12 string guitar. This has the 4 lower strings doubled with an octave higher string and the 2 higher strings doubled with the same note, also a lot of his playing is by tapping which is where the string is fretted and tapped higher up with the plucking fingers, it almost gives it a percussive feel.
    There is also another Guitarist named Mike Dawes who plays the same way, he has played an adaptation of a Van Halen song as a monument to his passing; actually this would have been more in keeping with the channel.

    • @intcheese
      @intcheese ปีที่แล้ว

      To be pedantic, it's an 11 string. The G isn't doubled.

    • @nitelite78
      @nitelite78 ปีที่แล้ว

      The doubling of strings also creates a chorus like effect which to some may sound like some kind of effects processing.

  • @Leopoldo888
    @Leopoldo888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The percussion is PERUVIAN CAJÓN... the guitar plays Spanish figures, but the chords/the harmony can be traced to Irish... Greek or even Hindi tradition... its world music.

  • @bruceschmidt8752
    @bruceschmidt8752 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Instrumental is usually how I have described wordless music on rock albums.

  • @tjampman
    @tjampman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope you are watching him play it in your further analysis...well, I'll get to that...

  • @themetalpig7613
    @themetalpig7613 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here's a link to a really cool 6-string version he does at what looks like a university in India. The crowd absolutely love it! Unfortunately half the video is sideways but no huge issue.
    th-cam.com/video/uoNqkvPGkYw/w-d-xo.html

  • @NiklasMalmqvist
    @NiklasMalmqvist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice rock song...........................

  • @felderup
    @felderup ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the opening started like some hammered dulcimer music i've heard, guess now you gotta add pipeline or... miserlou(not sure of the spelling), surfer music, lot of stuff youd find interesting there, on an aside, 'mule skinner blues' as an add. i don't feel any association with oceans in the song, unless it's onboard a small boat, the percussion might be waves against a hull, but that's as far as i get.

    • @rubikmonat6589
      @rubikmonat6589 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It makes sense if you picture it as the moods of the ocean from the point of view of a surfer.

  • @dr.alimpije511
    @dr.alimpije511 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    But,the "real thing" in that genre would be michael hedges - aerial boundaries and don ross -thin air . This is like some combination of these two songs.

  • @praveenb9048
    @praveenb9048 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It has something in common with the faster part of a sitar performance.

  • @AdamSanford
    @AdamSanford ปีที่แล้ว

    You need to watch the video of him playing to see how he produces all these sounds. Listening to the audio only leaves out so much of what you need to know in order to understand his sound.

    • @user-pd7il3xz5j
      @user-pd7il3xz5j 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly. At least she could just listen first, but then do a comment video while actually watching John Butler play.

  • @Hartlor_Tayley
    @Hartlor_Tayley ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice piece. Reminds me slightly of “Embryonic Journey” by Jefferson Airplane. Is this song in non standard tuning? Open string harmonics and beautiful use of hammer-ons etc. there’s a volume boost pedal or something going on too I think. I never heard this before I like it. Thanks ! Maybe check out Paco De Lucia sometime, a true flamenco guitarist. Great reaction.

    • @martinrobinson936
      @martinrobinson936 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The guitar is a 12 string, but with only 11 strings….. so makes for an interesting play. Open C tuning, but a capo on the 4th fret.

    • @Hartlor_Tayley
      @Hartlor_Tayley ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@martinrobinson936 11 ? Not 10. ? I like the lush harmonics of it. Thanks for the info.

    • @martinrobinson936
      @martinrobinson936 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Hartlor_Tayley when I saw him live was 11 for sure

    • @Hartlor_Tayley
      @Hartlor_Tayley ปีที่แล้ว

      @@martinrobinson936 must have been a great show. 11 strings for just the bass string drone I assume. It’s Weird, I’ve never heard of that. Thanks.

    • @martinrobinson936
      @martinrobinson936 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Hartlor_Tayley th-cam.com/video/hQjwkXrcUrs/w-d-xo.html