@@Itzdonnaduhhh I couldn't take Suboxone at all! I started taking Kratom as soon as I got the Suboxone out of my system! I started Kratom about 4 days after my last Suboxone dose!! Start with red vein Bali!
Marisa Lobue me too!! I’m still on it and my pain is manageable, after getting off of over 600 mg’s of morphine and klonopin a day. I started taking Kratom as soon as I felt withdrawal symptoms and it wasn’t even half of half as bad as opiate withdrawals. It saved my life, for sure!
I took 10 pills once and had the most euphoric feeling for an hour I loved everyone and had no bad feelings about anything at all then I barfed in the Starbucks bathroom.
You might’ve just barfed from swallowing too many pills. They big capsules don’t go down so good.. they always fuck up my throat and sometimes I start gagging almost puking if I take a lot... try taking maybe 3 or 4, 1 by 1.. then wait 30 mins and take a few more
Kratom is saving lives everyday.... that is undeniable ... you only got that high because you have no opiod tolerance... for people kicking opiods it can be a godsend
But the way you described it makes it sound just like an opioid which is just a drug that helps pain. So cool they aren't in pain but just on a different drug... That is also just as addictive as the thing it's trying to substitute. Little redundant don't you think?
Tyler Cafe its nowhere near as addictive as opiod synthetics... they can use kratom as a bridge to step themselves down to eventual sobriety.....while mitigating withdrawals
@@tylercafe1260 True but it's a hell of a lot better than being on heroine or oxycontin, and much better than being on methadone or suboxone which is currently used to treat those addictions. No doubt though it's a crutch.
Kratom is the ONLY REASON I was able to quit IV heroin (6 years of heavy use, I NEVER EVER EVER thought I'd be able to quit!!) I have 16 months now!! 🥰❤
I got clean for 6months (first time clean in 15yrs ) then relapsed. In rehab I was put on suboxone and 6yrs later still on it. I function in society and life is better now but want off the stuff.how do I get this kratom stuff before the government steps in a screws it all up?
Kratom is the only thing that helps with my depression. Like from not wanting to get out of bed to going to work in 15 mins. 30 years of "antidepressants"
@p dizzle We're all dependant on something in our modern first world country lives. I'd rather be dependant on 5 grams of kratom every other day and coffee then heroin or antidepressants. Kratom is so much easier to ween off of. Buy cheap as hell stem and vein mixes, take a couple scoops if you're feeling shitty. Stem and vein will stop withdrawal but not make you feel like you need to take more. I would say I am dependant on kratom, but the worst that happens when I don't is I get anxious. Much better than curling into a ball and crying wanting to die from withdrawing from zoloft or xanax.
@Dinglegoyyy Go Hm, sage advice there I heard from the same old anti-marijuana bullshit from probation officers that didn't know fuck all of what they're talking about. What do you enjoy? And I'll apply the same bullshit insular superiority-complex based crapola you just spewed in a wall of text. If it works for you it works for me. Why aren't you in the woods then, O' Sage? Why are you here trying to feel superior? Because lets be real, that's exactly what your doing. It's psychologically obvious. If you didn't feel superior you wouldn't feel the need to project "who is happier and who is really not" onto me. You also seem to not realize, in your failure of a psycho-reading, that I don't give a fuck what you think you're superior at or with. Your words mean very little other than for a decent laugh as you pretend to be the life wizard. Gotta love that "key to happiness" projection. Didn't realize happiness was a measurable amount. Whats the scientific term for measurement of "happiness per square inch in the brain?" You don't get to decide who is "most happy" based on your own conceptions. That just makes you the self-righteous one. I do what I want because i want to do it. I don't need to make excuses nor give them to you of all people. TH-cam comment therapist LOL where'd' you get your degree?
@Dinglegoyyy Go Yeah, coping while being honest lol yeah, I like to be high. And kratom helps people. I just like it. Helps not be anxious, and because I have insomnia. I obviously can pay my own fuckin bills. Why do you care so much about me despite the opposite on my end? You keep responding so only fair that I do. You seem to think you're "helping" in some odd way. When I think you're just being a dick cause you like to lol What are you a scientologist? "Drug taker bad!" You're awful concerned for....whatever reason. I hope you don't drink alcohol or do anythign other than eat food. Even though you're on the internet. You cannot deny that you have your own addictions to. If you really believed that, then you wouldn't be here. And you're just trying to cope with the fact that you're acting like a douchebag in the guise of a person who cares lol your attitude is contradictory. Because you like to feel better. That's a sign of insecurity. We can play the psycho read game. I just like to argue lol if you wanna argue for real we can do that discord.gg/367GuycK you got a microphone? I think it would make a good video to watch you act like a smug asshole XD
@Dinglegoyyy Go Are you a pharmaceutical shill? What reason do you have to dislike kratom? Seems really out of left field. People who smoke weed do it all the time, and that's not coping? That doesn't make much sense and is pretty contradictory. Hope you don't smoke, cause that'd make you a hypocrite. I get it, "kratom is opiate!" standpoint. When you fail to understand others perspectives. Because you're insular. And you didn't deny that.
Kratom saved me from a life filled with depression and ptsd. At 23 years old, I watched my dad kill himself. The horror you go through when something like that happens is unimaginable. Before this happened, I didn't even believe in PTSD that's how stupid I was. This plant helps tremendously with that. I honestly don't know if I would even be here right now if it wasn't for kratom. I truly think it would have been all to much, or I would be on the street addicted to alcohol with nothing, no family, no wallet no phone. NOTHING
I would rather go to a party and drink 1 kratom, save the calories of many drinks and be able to drive my car home than drink alcohol and pass out in my friends bathroom😂
It only sounds excessive because the capsules that kratom are sold in only hold a half gram so 10 pills equals 5 grams which is actually a very common low-medium dose for most people.
Kratom helps my back, knees, and my foot from the military. It also helps me mentally. Makes me level out, be a better boyfriend and father to my kids where I’d actually really just want to be alone and do nothing
@@odeefromdawic that’s the plan dude. We’ve been through a lot together all the way back to when we were dating in the military. Her barracks room was the building across from me, her room directly in front
This comment. This fucking comment right here. This is why I’m turning to Kratom. My body is in constant pain. I’m a husband and a father. I’m also a postal carrier and have been working forced overtime for the last 3 years. When the pain is so bad that you can’t sleep it means you can’t heal. Do that for a long enough time and you wind up making your wife a widow and your children resent you for leaving them. I do what I do so I can provide. But providing isn’t enough if all my family gets from me when I’m home is anger, lethargy, depression, and a broken man. Guys, look….most of us were taught to shut down emotionally or ignore pain or bury our feelings. That will literally turn us into the monsters we feared growing up. This isn’t about being weak. It’s about being strong enough to get help so you can be the dad your kids deserve. Be the husband your wife fell in love with. Be the friend that others looked up to when we were all young. Bravery isn’t not being afraid. It’s moving forward even when you’re terrified. Strength isn’t ignoring your pain. It’s acknowledging it, accepting it for what it is, and moving to overcome it. Guys, we got this. We really do. But only if we don’t try to lie to ourselves. That story always ends the same way and it’s an early grave.
My favorite thing is when Joe knows something about something because he heard it from this one guy and then he talks like he knows what he's talking about.
Taking kratom every day they have done for a long time. Have been sick the last few days too so have taken a little extra it has worked well so far. Feeling shit weird type who yes drank 20 cups of coffee completely shaky and uncomfortable feeling in the chest. What should I do, this is dangerous. Do they happen if you take them when you are sick. Know that you should not drink alcohol with viruses in the body. Can they harm anything if you take kratom sick? So they do not go to heart well? Today they were like this, I did not feel the usual feeling I usually get. So thought it was tolerance took more and more. Now I am shaken completely overstimulated, they feel like in a negative way. Like a caffeine overdose.
Definitely wish ignorant ppl like you would reincarnate as an individual who struggles with addiction. U just may. Then, it would be interesting to see if you made such comments
Phillip Cheese its a temporary replacement to detox off of heroin vikes percs ect..... And then it gives you the power of weening off with mild withdrawals if any.
I was addicted to opiates for over a year. Never bought them from the street, my dr prescribed them to me. After wanting to get off them, I did Suboxone for two weeks. I weaned off of that and tried Kratom. It has stopped my cravings, given me energy for the day and makes me feel relaxed. I am now officially two weeks clean from opiates. I will never look back! Kratom saved my life.
@@jasonday8334 My man. I'm likewise Stepping down Kratom right now...... I'm not particularly afraid of the withdrawal because I've been through opiate and benzo withdrawal. I know it'll be nothing by comparison. But how far along are you now? How many caps do you take a day now?
@@jasonday8334 Man, 4oz a day is quite insane. Not to mention expensive. You honestly don’t benefit from taking any more than a moderate 4-6 gram dose a few times a day. Most of it’s being wasted, especially since that’s a hard amount to digest in a day.
This is ridiculous. I use kratom every day and I’m VERY healthy and live an active lifestyle. I work full time and have two degrees. I’m a PERFECT example of someone who can use kratom safely. Please don’t bad mouth kratom. There’s millions of ppl who use it SAFELY and RESPONSIBLY every day.
Brian Christopher I was addicted to alcohol and benzos and morphine for years, and I took Kratom to ween off the dopesickness, and now I’m 1 year sober from everything except marijuana, coffee, and Kratom. No it’s not “sober” but I’m fairly certain I’m on a better road than the latter. However, Kratom gets you slumped I mean I’ve “nodded” off this stuff. It effects people siffferently as do all drugs but I take usually 20. And I’m perfectly fine?
Hold This L If you’re taking 20 pills that’s how you got a nod, Kratom definitely gives you a nice buzz but i wouldn’t describe it as feeling “fucked up”
@@OLDMANWAFFLES yup, just like theres people who use heroin, and other opiates and function just fine. Its a fucking stimulate of course your going to function fine, if not better. Be truthfull to yourself
I’m 4 weeks off of Kratom, and can tell you that the withdrawals are absolutely nowhere near as bad as opiates. I weened myself off, but I would equate it more to a nicotine withdrawal than a oxy withdrawal. My worst symptom was getting the “jimmy legs” before I woke up in the morning. Plus, I sneezed a lot. But compared to suboxone, the withdrawal was nothing.
@@DNYLNY have you every experienced heroin,benzo or alcohol withdrawal. The alcohol and the benzo withdrawal you can actually die from. I'm not saying kratom withdrawal is nothing but comparatively it's a mild withdrawal.
Been using it for 5 years. Stepping down right now. So far the withdrawals are annoying but tolerable. How long were you tired after kratom was no longer in your system ?
The people saying Kratom doesn’t “work” are the ones trying to get high off of it. Stop. Take it if you need to wean off hardcore opiates, or have anxiety issues. Stop expecting to get high and then get angry/disappointed that you wasted money
As someone who's in chronic pain all the time, I'm disappointed in Joe. That feeling he got only happens the first few times, and it's not nearly as pronounced as marijuana one bit. I take Kratom and proud of it. Be careful not to abuse it. Taking ten isn't even technically abusing it. Shit man take ten tylenol and see how you come out. You'll overdose and need your stomach pumped.
I completely agree. I have used it for three years now to manage chronic neck and back pain as an alternative to my prescription opioids. Kratom has never gotten me “high” or intoxicated unless I took far too much. I had even tried it before being prescribed pain pills and It made me feel good but not fucked up. I really hate this video. This shit is why people think kratom is just “legal heroin”.
Agreed here. Mostly. I'd rather take a proper prescription pill like oxycontin. For me, it's more effective and less likely to cause euphoria. However, with the 'opioid crisis' that the doctors created in the first place it's impossible to get. Kratom is literally the only reason I'm alive.
Pennsyltucky Counter Terrorism cbd/cbg/thc used with kratom works great for pain if kratom isn’t enough at times. Depends on the type of pain and the person though I suppose.
@@doomhead4203 i haven't tried cbg. For myself cbd has no effect and thc usually makes it worse strangely. I've found some new herbals to try like akuamma. I'm excited to try them alone and in combination.
Kratom genuinely saved my life at the height of my Lyme pain. However I did get addicted for a while. Thankfully I quit back in December when my pain finally subsided a bit and didn't even have withdrawals even after a 2 year addiction.
I had withdrawals but I've used it only when I needed it I got to a point where I was abusing it and that was really on me but it's not like it was that hard to get over it was 2 days of sweats and chill
I've never experienced pain like I experienced during the worst of Lyme. Lyme is an entirely different level and type of pain. It's as if you can feel every nerve in your body and they are on fire. It's the first pain I experienced that i would describe as AGONY! I was never a drinker but started with Lyme. Now I'm past Lyme but struggling to stop drinking. I'm going to give kratom a try to kick the habit. I'm sorry you had Lyme, I seriously wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I hope you are doing better.
@@AprilSummers-um6tf my Lyme is under control and I'm off the kratom but I too have a problem with drinking now. Hopefully I can get that under control but it's definitely hard having gone through everything.
@crawlzzz Lyme was one of the first openly corrupt public deals made by the government to benefit the insurance industry. After 4 years of debilitating health problems and being misdiagnosed with everything from celiac to lupus, I finally got the correct blood tests done. Within a few months, the government announced new guidelines for treating Lyme that included one round of antibiotics. Dr's that pursued more would be prosecuted for malpractice. Dr's didn't even want to look at my blood tests. If you had a positive Lyme test, Dr's wanted nothing to do with you. I had to let it run its course. The level of stress and humiliation involved in navigating the meat grinder, that is, the medical industrial complex, can not be overstated. When you are in agony and desperately trying to find an answer, there is nothing worse than hearing a chipper nurse telling you "good news, all your tests were negative "! The day to day pain, stress and humiliation is brutal. It's one thing to stay in bed sick when you have a documented reason, it's another to be bed ridden while all of the Dr's and specialists have just given you the good news....you are perfectly healthy. It's a massive mind extracurricular activity.
I use Kratom as a tool to focus when I'm trying to make music, or as a stimulant for when I'm going to a social gathering. I also sometimes have some in my protein shake after a workout when it's a nice day so when I'm walking home I can take in my surroundings better. Like most people here are saying, it's really not as bad as Joe is making it out to be. I think it's largely misunderstood as just another drug to get you fucked up, but I see it as more of a natural medication for depression and addiction. It's a miracle plant and I love it ❤️
My old manager was addicted to all sorts of drugs and pills and the only thing that keeps him off that stuff is Kratom. I've never tried it but I'm glad that it can help people off of worse things.
Kratom got me to stop a horrible fentanyl addiction. Now I can live my life the way it’s meant to and I’m very thankful to be back to my normal self. I do have to take pretty big amounts but it doesn’t fucc me up like other opiates do. I just do white in the morning, green in the afternoon / early evening and then red vein for sleep and I feel great!
It does give you a "HIGH" but it's different... it's a powerful experience for sure, a very positive one! By the way, there's a big difference between the farm grown Kratom and the wild harvested Kratom. I get my Kratom from Borneo Energy, it comes from the jungle of Borneo in Indonesia. From my experience this is the best quality and best price Kratom in the world.
I got a bag of the Borneo energy green when I was in Bali, I guess that's where it's made. I don't have much experience with kratom, but is borneo energy really the best? Is it pure and reliable compared to other brands/vendors?
@@ncyrider16 Kratom does not grow in Bali but it grows in Borneo, and Borneo Energy is the only local community that collects and produces wild grown kratom, that is by far the best one available, totally on it´s own level compared to all of those farmed kratoms.
Maeng Da Man myself...I have tried Meang Da, Bali, Indo, Thai, Malay and Borneo......I stick with Maeng Da......Invigorating.....No High...In my experience...As long as its handled correctly and preserved and fresh...Can easily go stale, like Coffee......
@@jonhowerton2537 i swear i got high of it but its not like a weed or a drunk feeling so i get where ur saying its not a high but i really felt some type of high
If you are physically active, kratom keeps you going strong. If you are sedentary, kratom enhances relaxation. You'll probably want to sleep. Use it before exercise, but NOT before a long car drive.
You have to take SO MUCH Kratom to get high, you usually puke. Joe..."it gets you high"... Proceeds to smoke blunt after blunt. Any serious responsible Kratom user doesn't take pill form. Raw leaf only please.
Yep 3 tsp. every 6 hours. The pill form just coagulates in your stomach and gives no effect at all. (Edit: I originally said tablespoon but I take 3 teaspoons 😁😂🤣)
You only have to take "SO MUCH" kratom to get high if you take it every day. Also unlike a lot of kratom users I don't hear joe saying "weed doesn't get you high"...
I tried it for my first time today,I feel amazing. Ive heard good things and bad things about it but I think I've found something good. I have major depressive disorder my anxiety is gone I'm in such a good mood
Which only releases the mitragynine.... they dry the leaves here and grind them into a powder.... the drying process produces 7 hydroxymitragynine which is different
Anyone thinking about using kratom, or just starting out with kratom, I would suggest to be very careful, and practice strong self-discipline. If you start taking it more and more, you can easily get to the point where you need to take it all day long morning to night, and can't go more than an hour or 2 without it. And once you are at this point, quitting is extremely difficult. It's a long arduous, horribly depressing battle.
100% agree I thought it was a miracle for the first few months as well. A lot of people find out just how ungentle it can be a few months into regular use. That shit was a nightmare for me. Legit as bad as oxy withdrawal but in a more intense mental/anxiety withdrawal
I understand your point and agree with you about moderation but everybody is different. I took it often throughout the day when I first found it. Now I have it once every few days (couple times a week) in the morning and I don’t Jones at all… It’s so mild that all that addiction worry was just in the mind. At least that was my experience. ☮️💚
I used Kratom for years and ended up addicted to it. I thought of it as the devil that had control over me. Then around a year ago I started using fentanyl, I switched back to Kratom 8 days ago and have a new found respect for the plant. In the last year I've overdosed 6 times 2 of which were near fatal. I overdosed on my porch at 5 am and a friend just so happened to be having trouble sleeping and for some unknown reason decided to go for a walk with narcan in his backpack. He walked past my house and found me unconscious and turning blue. No one can tell me this wasn't some kind of Devine intervention. That was the last hit of Fetty I shot.
I am a chronic pain sufferer and kratom is the sole reason I'm not addicted to prescription opioids, or destroying my stomach with ibuprofen/naproxen. I'm one of thousands who can say the same.
Kratom is one of the best drugs I've ever tried. Better than alcohol, better than weed, better than opiates...the only thing that has EVER helped my depression.
I've been taking kratom since 2013. It's incredible. The red strains (red borneo, red bali etc) completely took my anxiety away in a way that nothing else ever could. You feel this warm blanket feeling all over your body and a deep euphoria that lasts the whole day. It also really improves your cardio dramatically and helps tremendously with delaying lactic acid build up and also with recovery after a hard work out session. It's an amazing and versatile plant. Btw, it's "krah -tohm." Not "crate -em."
@@shayorshayorshayor Never took any pills so I can't help you with that. It's always better and cheaper to get the dried powder and start with half a tea spoon and add more until you hit a sweet spot that you're comfortable with. Don't underestimate how strong this stuff can be.
@@shayorshayorshayor trust me, you'll know. You'll feel just right, if you take any of the red strains like borneo, the sedative ones. The white strains are good for working out and being active but won't give you that sedative feeling that most people want.
I have asbergers and Kratom helps me chill/normalize to a degree but I’ve noticed quick access to information recall is affected to some degree on higher doses. You don’t want to take high doses for long periods or you WILL experience withdrawal symptoms for about a week. Taper off progressively for about a month to avoid that completely. Enjoy.
When you have an opiate addiction kratom does NOT get you high. If you dont have an opiate dependency it can get you high but JR has never done smack so....
I went to a Kratom/Kava bar a few months ago because someone told me about it and I got a regular tea that they serve and that was a pleasant kind of stimulant like Joe was saying. I went back like a week later and tried the double shot they offer to see what that was like, and damn it was as if I took one too many Percocet. Definitely a nice time but can for sure see it becoming a problem with the wrong person. I don’t think it should be scheduled at all though, in fact I know it helps opioid addicts come off of whatever they’re struggling with. I’m all for it.
For over a year, I was taking 800mg. of caffeine every morning. With one week of kratom, I was completely off of it, and have no desire for either. Truly an amazing plant!
@@pansexualdickhaver6878 I know, but as healthy adult with anxiety that would but like destroy me, 100mg caffeine is max for me. other wise instant panic attack, Weed tho I can do a g of rso no problem or 1000mg easily.
Kratom is great for people with moderate-severe chronic pain or when dealing with opiate withdrawal. Recreationally, it can be pretty habit forming. Tolerance builds up quickly. I was on 30 grams a day and withdrawals were definitely a problem. I tapered off for a couple months until completely stopping. I can only imagine quitting cold turkey, or for that matter, opiate withdrawal.
Kratom helped me get off of extremely dangerous drugs but it is extremely addictive. Mentally and physically. Just because it can’t kill you doesn’t mean it isn’t harmful for you.
more or less what matters most is each owns reasoning why and when they take a certain substance. that can either improve their lives or bring them lower
Pasquale Boris anytime I take a high dose it does the opposite of what I want. Cold sweats and skin irritability. I’ve treated myself for over a year and it’s a beautiful plant. I hate seeing joe act like it’s something it’s not.
@Pasquale Boris So that's why the government wants to ban it. So that the pharmaceutical companies can keep people on painkillers,methadone, and suboxone. Unbelievable.
Kratom is amazing, but mind you it can also become your master, and it is a bad master. Don't let it thrust it's claws into you, because the withdrawal isn't a nice thing. Believe me, don't make the same mistake like me and take it responsibly.
For me, Kratom used to remove all depression completely. I mean all of it. Made you super interested in activities, relaxed, joyful; energetic. No hangover and it’s easy to kick. It’s the perfect drug. It still gives me energy years later, but the calm euphoria is reduced due to tolerance, sadly. It’s hardly a scary or harmful drug at all.
@@tfahad2051 mostly red vein when I started out, but now I prefer white as it makes me less sleepy. Put a heaping teaspoon of kratom into a French press and about .75 L of boiling hot water. Steep for 20-30 min. Strain and drink as a tea.
@@flakdampler11 Thanks. I'm just looking to get it because I've heard it also helps with depression. I would love to try anything that will also help me stay focused at work
tony stanze Exactly brother. Ppl try to compare many drugs when a lot of them get you high just in different ways. Trying to compare Opiates and LSD/DMT is like comparing apples to Oranges.
The effects vary wildly depending on the individual. For me it soothed the ever present nerve pain in my arms and legs. My arms and legs feel like they're on fire and for whatever reason Kratom helps. The burning sensation has been so pervasive that I've frozen my loved ones out of my house by running the A/C until ice cicles are hanging from the ceiling. I feel normal while being able to think clearly due to the dulling of chronic pain. For me there's no high rather I notice 20 minutes later I can think more clearly. I suggest you try it while at home to see how if at all it effects you. For me the white leaf works the best which goes against the descriptions. It works for some and not others. I suggest you buy a very small quantity to see if helps. 1 teaspoon mixed with 8 oz of water is what I take.
I love kratom!. I can't even put into words how much kratom helped me! Especially when everything big pharma gave me didn't help. Fun fact, kratom isn't usually sold as pills. Matter of fact I've never seen kratom pills. It's usually sold as crushed leaf turned into powder leaf. Sometimes they sell capsules which are just filled with crushed leaf powder. Kratom is grown mainly in rainforest in tropical climates. Pills are made in labs which is not where kratom is made! After years of use, kratom is more like coffee but better! Definitely don't feel like drugs on it. Replace alcohol with kratom and watch your life start taking off. Alcohol will hold you back, where as kratom will help you in many aspects of life. The trick with kratom is not to abuse kratom! Don't abuse it ! Less is so much better!
I'm recovering from cancer and chronic pain is my life. I have been on oxycodone since 2021. When irun out of my 10 day (60pill) supply i start getting the effects of withdrawl. I bought some Bali Red vein Kratom and i'm trying it for the first time right now. I feel sluggish almost drunk but functional. My eyes feel saggy. I'm calm as can be but it feels like im borderline overdosing. Not a pleasant feeling. I wouldn't advise jumping into these unless you take small experimental doses until you figure out what works. Just and FYI i bought the capsules says 600Mg but doesnt say the amount of Krantom.
You don't get high from Kratom unless you have zero opiate tolerance and even then the feeling is nowhere near the euphoric high you get from hydro / oxy (ie all things being equal)
Paul Denet untrue I’ve snorted two Oxy and two Xanax at once before still not as good as a good Kratom high which starts to feel like ecstasy at high doses
YOUniverse1234 yes it is look up the active alkaloids like 9-methoxymitragynine 7-hydroxymitragynine is lab proven to be 13 times more powerful an analgesic than morphine but is only 2% of the alkaloid makeup so you have to consume at least 10x the recommended dose or more if you’re a heavy opiate user
Kratom took away my severe narcotic medication withdrawals (restless leg syndrome, depression, anxiety, despair, hot and cold flashes, sleeplessness, etc) for 2-3 hours per dose. I would take up to 15 capsules at a time during the worse times. I have never had Kratom withdrawal. I can attest that Kratom was a lifesaver for me! It has never made me high, only feeling "normal". I always used Red Vein Bali.
after you took your 15 pills , how long till it kicked it so your withdrawals can stop ? heard red bali/md is best for withdrawals fam any tips would help
if you guys are curious about what it feels to high on kratom, ask a Malaysian, especially the ones in the north region. we mix kratom water with coke(because kratom is super bitter) * we also add some cough syrup to get more high effects(not good for your health obviously). its actually lean but in south east asia version. we call it as “koroi”
In South East Asia, usually normal people just boil the leaves and drink the water for health benefits. BUT drug ADDICTS will mix kratom tea with other substances such as mosquito coil, soft drink, syrup, horse pill (amphetamine) and meth which can cause multiple organ failures and other health hazards. Kratom has benefits for health but don’t abuse it.
In Malaysia, we call it ketum, some people here that used it for traditional medicine, boil the leaves and drink it like a tea it's good for pain relief, sore muscles, diabetes, etc. And some people that want to get the "kick"/high from the plant here used to boil the leaves and mix it with cough syrup or strong carbonate drink like coca cola, pepsi or mountain dew.
If you're buying it to get high I can assure you that you'll be disappointed. I use it for chronic pain, and have never had a high. I've taken too much on accident when I was new to it, and all that happened was severe nausea. God only knows whatever else Joe is taking with it. 😔
Ive been downing kratom for the past 2 years daily, around 30. I work 10 hours a day no breaks, no lunch. I take 6 and i alleviates the pain. Also, get a nice buzz every time. Never had to increase the amount, ever...no tolerance levels imo
Not gonna lie, i went 10 days without the kratom and i when i took it i felt this feeling like no other. it was amazing. it felt so euphoric and i just cuddled up in my bed and smiled.
not in my experience, went to the mental hospital for two weeks and quit kratom CT. no WD’s. no suboxone even though they offered. they prescribed me only risperaDONE (antipsychotic)
"High" is a stretch. It just makes you feel different effects based on what you're taking. Darker Kratom tends to chill you out a little more while lighter strains tend to stimulate you. It's tough to take too much because you just get nauseated.
donkey punch the first time I took some I took about 6 grams of some high quality Bali. I was fucked up I felt really good but after about a week it was pretty lame.
Eh.. everyone reacts to drugs differently but it definitely gets me high. 4 grams of kratom, especially a lot of the red strains feels identical to 10 mg of oxycodone. Very very similar body high
Unless you are on a lot of white vein with pinpoint pupils and cleaning out your car randomly all while talking to everyone who passes by, nobody is even able to tell you're on anything. Take adderall for example, people look so cracked out on that shit.
@Wille red is the relaxing opiate version and green is like the upper version but not crackhead energy and white is crack head, that shit hurts my head can't drink white
@@giovannitrentalange2822 same white is like too much coffee start shaking and im sure you could OD on it. Reds only give you belly ache but after awhile it stops happening unless you go crazy one day. Red is most opiate like for sure. Red bali has been the number 1 go too. I like it a lot myself but I like all reds. Yellow is relaxing and euphoric. Mix the 2 feels great. I just had 17 grams of priemum bali. I know its a lot and I shouldnt do that but its better then addiction to feddy. I'm okay with this but I know at some point I need to reduce. 6 months off methadone and 73 days off feddy. Kradom helps not crave other things. I stopped drinking every night.
I guess it depends on your chemistry and physiology. I've been using kratom(red mengda, green and white Malay and Bali) for about 2 years now. My usual dose is about 3-5 g daily, broken up into 3 or 4 servings. I was able to kick a dependency of painkillers for my shoulder and midback. Everything in moderation. Ive gotten many people off of opiates using kratom, and then they would ease off kratom as well. I also know people that stay "high" on kratom, but that's abuse. Overall, it's a safer, natural alternative to painkillers. This is only my opinion based on personal use so be careful.
yes and no.. no is having kratom parties nor is there dealers on the corner pushing this stuff. It almost in a league of its own, just needs to be respected or it will consume you.
If you have an addictive personality be careful yall. Ive been addicted to this sludge for 5 years and the withdrawals can be horrific if you take a bunch every day over a period of time like I did.
This is facts that shit gets me so high but the taste😫 and withdrawals can be worse because there are so many unstudied alkaloids in kratom that also act as ssris.
The more you take kratom, the less intense the high becomes, as with everything else. That's why most people who take that much kratom say it's not a "high". Caffeine can get you really revved up as well if you haven't had it in a long time.
Kratom saved my life. I was trying to get off heroin by buying suboxone tabs off the street. I had moved away and my source screwed me. The withdrawal from suboxone was worse than heroin. I didn't sleep besides micro naps over the course of 5 days. I found out about Kratom and was able to find a place that sold it. I took 4 grams of kratom with water and all of my symptoms went away within 10 minutes. My vision wasn't blurry, body pain went away, suicidal thoughts diminished, resting heart rate went from 140 to 100.
Finding kratom was one of the best things that ever happened to me. If not for it, I would be using real drugs that bring about real disaster. Even good things are often intended in proper moderation. However, it’s still an all natural plant matter (simply ground up) that is helping millions of people live a life they never thought they would have the luxury of living. It should be available everywhere! God bless..and thanks, Joe!
There is a face book page called “quitting kratom” these people talk so bad about it, because they abused the plant and would take about 40- 80grams a day
@@SuPeRHeRoDuDe3124 I can imagine lol, i would take over 10g a day and i took a dump like 3-4 times a week. trying my best to get lower to like 4g every other day
Nah man I've had major side effects from as low as 8GPD (Gram Per Day). Currently hooked again at between 12-20 GPD and the side effects are identical. I have to take supplements to poop and Nothing seems to help the skin issues or aging issues it causes. Anyone who knows this plant knows how addictive it is. If you don't think it's almost as bad of a dependence to suboxone, methadone or heroin you just haven't been around long enough to find out! The withdrawals are almost as bad as heroin withdrawals and mentally they're a little harder to handle honestly. Phsycially they're not as bad but they cause major anxiety when quitting for me. I still think they should be legal. But I also think all drugs should be legal
i rebuke that stinky DEVIL in JESUS CHRISTS NAME!!!! HA! "KRAVE KRATOM" MADE ME PUKE MY GUTS OUT!!! stop right now, you are in danger friend. please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kratom has some nasty withdrawals and is pretty addictive but Rogan is right. It's a very "clean" high. You feel fantastic but you don't feel inhibited/dysfunctional in anyway. It's also super hard on your stomach lol and puking it very very common.
My knees and back are wrecked from years of doing concrete and they had me on pain therapy fucking morphine patches and OC.....buddy of mine told me about Kratom and I've been taking for 2 years now and haven't touched any opioids since...... It isn't a cure all for chronic pain but it definitely takes the edge off and it's allowed me to keep working physically demanding jobs
@@johnavina7220 normally just a tablespoon with some orange or grapefruit juice and on bad mornings when the temperature drops here I'll take a tablespoon and a half Sometimes I take 2 tablespoons but it tends to make me feel a bit nauseous and dizzy
@@ryansanborn4906 not really.....you don't feel like your coming down of of anything but you do get a bit of craving for it but it's nothing on the level of opiates......it's kinda like needing your morning coffee It does dehydrate the hell out of you tho so stay hydrated or you'll get constipated
😐 Using a substance to self medicate means that you aren't dealing with either of those things and in fact using substances for those reasons is how you become an addict.
Let me tell you from very first hand experience, kratom withdrawal is real. I'm currently on day 4 and the last 3 nights I've had about a total of 6 hours sleep, total. The shivers, diarrhea, insomnia, RLS it's all very real. Be cautious taking this stuff as you can quickly get hooked
Johnny Flannigan I take almost 10 grams per dose and I wouldn’t call it a high or a ‘drug’. Addicting, yes, because of the receptors involved. But not a drug. Just like I wouldn’t call marijuana a ‘drug’. It’s a plant. That has a chemical compound within it that acts on receptors in your brain, that therefore cause withdrawals when those receptors stop receiving that chemical.
@@Sumo-san you also have opiate receptors all through your digestive tract as well. I shot dope for 20+ years & the stomach stuff was always the worst part of kicking dope.
@Johnny Flannigan same here I've been up to 100 grams a day for a long time. It can definitely get away from you if you buy in bulk. I have weighed out my doses in years just take it by the spoonful. Withdrawals at that point are horrible
*I have serious sciatic nerve damage ATM, and after I take a BIG dose of Kratom, the nerve starts twitching and firing, and my foot and leg start WORKING significantly better. My muscles literally spasm out of the numbness from it stimulating the nerve with enough magnitude. I can feel my foot more. It also is a miracle for pain! I have some nasty muscle tears in my back it wipes out and even percs and oxies do ZILCH for that pain! I mean I need an ambulance pain.*
Shroomy Bear lol weeeaaakkk I’ve only ever felt nauseous after taking WAY too much at once, meaning 15+ grams in under an hour. If you have a weak stomach, that’s on you not the kratom 😂
Yo Joe I love you bro I watch your podcasts all the time and love your content but I'm also a 21 year old heroin addict and Kratom is one of the best things I've ever come across. Its not dangerous. You're not gonna overdose and die off it. There are no withdrawl ( maybe something comparable to caffeine wd in extreme cases) and it helps people who are in pain and don't want opiates. Bro please for the love of God please help us keep this legal and legit because it is one of the only things I've ever found that I can use legally to keep me from wanting to go use heroin this should not be categorize as a harmful drug
Ive been taking kratom for 6 years every day. I wouldnt say it gets you high, but I would more so say that it gives you a sense of well being, energetic, makes you feel up lifted. It does take pain away also I use them for when I work double shifts at my job. Dont think this is gonna make you like BLASTED OMG IM SO FUCKED UP, its not like that.
It definitely gets you high - but it definitely doesn't get you high like classic opiates do, which is a HUUUGE difference. Frankly, weed alters you MUCH more than kratom does; but it IS absolutely still a real deal no bullshit 'high'.
Kratom is actually in the coffee family! Kratom was the only thing that helped me get off of prescription opioid pain pills! It saved my life!
How long b4 you started to withdraw did u take it
I’m glad to hear it helped you. Got me off pills and saved my life aswell. Truly a miracle plant.
@@Itzdonnaduhhh I couldn't take Suboxone at all! I started taking Kratom as soon as I got the Suboxone out of my system! I started Kratom about 4 days after my last Suboxone dose!!
Start with red vein Bali!
@@marisa9968 yeah red vein bali is the best in my opinion for helping with the anxiety. Haven't bought it in a while and dose phenibut once a week
Marisa Lobue me too!! I’m still on it and my pain is manageable, after getting off of over 600 mg’s of morphine and klonopin a day. I started taking Kratom as soon as I felt withdrawal symptoms and it wasn’t even half of half as bad as opiate withdrawals.
It saved my life, for sure!
I took 10 pills once and had the most euphoric feeling for an hour I loved everyone and had no bad feelings about anything at all then I barfed in the Starbucks bathroom.
I bet that tasted absolutely repulsive.. I'm struggling to find a good way to take it bc the taste is sooooo bad
@@therealfruw0w232 Blate Papes. Thank me later
@@therealfruw0w232 with orange juice, it also strengthens the high.
You might’ve just barfed from swallowing too many pills. They big capsules don’t go down so good.. they always fuck up my throat and sometimes I start gagging almost puking if I take a lot... try taking maybe 3 or 4, 1 by 1.. then wait 30 mins and take a few more
How many grams is in one pill?
Kratom is saving lives everyday.... that is undeniable ... you only got that high because you have no opiod tolerance... for people kicking opiods it can be a godsend
Also if you over-use the major side effect is puking. And long term constipation *all from having too much Plant matter inside you*
But the way you described it makes it sound just like an opioid which is just a drug that helps pain. So cool they aren't in pain but just on a different drug... That is also just as addictive as the thing it's trying to substitute. Little redundant don't you think?
Tyler Cafe its nowhere near as addictive as opiod synthetics... they can use kratom as a bridge to step themselves down to eventual sobriety.....while mitigating withdrawals
@@tylercafe1260 True but it's a hell of a lot better than being on heroine or oxycontin, and much better than being on methadone or suboxone which is currently used to treat those addictions. No doubt though it's a crutch.
Lmao dude you're worse than the "weed cures cancer" idiots.
Kratom is the ONLY REASON I was able to quit IV heroin (6 years of heavy use, I NEVER EVER EVER thought I'd be able to quit!!) I have 16 months now!! 🥰❤
Try my plug
Mycohenry 33
He’s on Instagram
He sells
@@rolandogieva9524 sells what?
Kratom helps me with social anxiety
Same with me. phenibut helps extremely well with social anxiety.
@@zadraking phenibut is awesome but very powerful.
But does it get worse if you stop taking it?
@@stronk9760 not in my experience but I also don't take it daily. It was a blessing though during my college courses along with CBD
David Saucedo it gets way worse when I don’t take it
4 grams is a normal dose. Nothing wrong with it. I'm 380 days off of opiates today. Thanks go kratom.
9 months myself, a table spoon in the morning is enough
@plnkfloydian live through something and then come talk to me lil bitch
Uncles balls lol... anyway imjuice let’s double down and see another 380days free and clear. Good luck my friend
I got clean for 6months (first time clean in 15yrs ) then relapsed. In rehab I was put on suboxone and 6yrs later still on it. I function in society and life is better now but want off the stuff.how do I get this kratom stuff before the government steps in a screws it all up?
Have you stopped taking Kratom?
Kratom is the only thing that helps with my depression. Like from not wanting to get out of bed to going to work in 15 mins. 30 years of "antidepressants"
@p dizzle We're all dependant on something in our modern first world country lives. I'd rather be dependant on 5 grams of kratom every other day and coffee then heroin or antidepressants.
Kratom is so much easier to ween off of. Buy cheap as hell stem and vein mixes, take a couple scoops if you're feeling shitty. Stem and vein will stop withdrawal but not make you feel like you need to take more.
I would say I am dependant on kratom, but the worst that happens when I don't is I get anxious. Much better than curling into a ball and crying wanting to die from withdrawing from zoloft or xanax.
@Dinglegoyyy Go We have to cope with everything. But some things leave you better off than others.
@Dinglegoyyy Go Hm, sage advice there I heard from the same old anti-marijuana bullshit from probation officers that didn't know fuck all of what they're talking about. What do you enjoy? And I'll apply the same bullshit insular superiority-complex based crapola you just spewed in a wall of text. If it works for you it works for me. Why aren't you in the woods then, O' Sage? Why are you here trying to feel superior? Because lets be real, that's exactly what your doing. It's psychologically obvious. If you didn't feel superior you wouldn't feel the need to project "who is happier and who is really not" onto me.
You also seem to not realize, in your failure of a psycho-reading, that I don't give a fuck what you think you're superior at or with. Your words mean very little other than for a decent laugh as you pretend to be the life wizard.
Gotta love that "key to happiness" projection. Didn't realize happiness was a measurable amount. Whats the scientific term for measurement of "happiness per square inch in the brain?" You don't get to decide who is "most happy" based on your own conceptions. That just makes you the self-righteous one. I do what I want because i want to do it. I don't need to make excuses nor give them to you of all people. TH-cam comment therapist LOL where'd' you get your degree?
@Dinglegoyyy Go Yeah, coping while being honest lol yeah, I like to be high. And kratom helps people. I just like it. Helps not be anxious, and because I have insomnia. I obviously can pay my own fuckin bills. Why do you care so much about me despite the opposite on my end? You keep responding so only fair that I do. You seem to think you're "helping" in some odd way. When I think you're just being a dick cause you like to lol
What are you a scientologist? "Drug taker bad!" You're awful concerned for....whatever reason. I hope you don't drink alcohol or do anythign other than eat food. Even though you're on the internet. You cannot deny that you have your own addictions to. If you really believed that, then you wouldn't be here.
And you're just trying to cope with the fact that you're acting like a douchebag in the guise of a person who cares lol your attitude is contradictory. Because you like to feel better. That's a sign of insecurity. We can play the psycho read game.
I just like to argue lol if you wanna argue for real we can do that discord.gg/367GuycK you got a microphone? I think it would make a good video to watch you act like a smug asshole XD
@Dinglegoyyy Go Are you a pharmaceutical shill? What reason do you have to dislike kratom? Seems really out of left field. People who smoke weed do it all the time, and that's not coping? That doesn't make much sense and is pretty contradictory. Hope you don't smoke, cause that'd make you a hypocrite.
I get it, "kratom is opiate!" standpoint. When you fail to understand others perspectives. Because you're insular. And you didn't deny that.
Kratom saved me from a life filled with depression and ptsd. At 23 years old, I watched my dad kill himself. The horror you go through when something like that happens is unimaginable. Before this happened, I didn't even believe in PTSD that's how stupid I was. This plant helps tremendously with that. I honestly don't know if I would even be here right now if it wasn't for kratom. I truly think it would have been all to much, or I would be on the street addicted to alcohol with nothing, no family, no wallet no phone. NOTHING
Man up and start doing heroin
Kratom saved my life aswell, but damn, my condolences on experiencing that and all the best on your future endeavors.
@Shooter called a job
@Shooter can't smoke weed doing dangerous jobs
@Shooter you must be 17 and work at mcdonalds
I would rather go to a party and drink 1 kratom, save the calories of many drinks and be able to drive my car home than drink alcohol and pass out in my friends bathroom😂
Straight up
And not be all hungover
Why not go to the party and not take any drugs at all ?
@@xWingzTV lol drunk people are so annoying when your not drunk
@@xWingzTV yeah, because oh what fun that is 🙄
It only sounds excessive because the capsules that kratom are sold in only hold a half gram so 10 pills equals 5 grams which is actually a very common low-medium dose for most people.
Kratom helps my back, knees, and my foot from the military. It also helps me mentally. Makes me level out, be a better boyfriend and father to my kids where I’d actually really just want to be alone and do nothing
same here
Marry her bro
@@odeefromdawic that’s the plan dude. We’ve been through a lot together all the way back to when we were dating in the military. Her barracks room was the building across from me, her room directly in front
This comment. This fucking comment right here. This is why I’m turning to Kratom. My body is in constant pain. I’m a husband and a father. I’m also a postal carrier and have been working forced overtime for the last 3 years. When the pain is so bad that you can’t sleep it means you can’t heal. Do that for a long enough time and you wind up making your wife a widow and your children resent you for leaving them.
I do what I do so I can provide. But providing isn’t enough if all my family gets from me when I’m home is anger, lethargy, depression, and a broken man.
Guys, look….most of us were taught to shut down emotionally or ignore pain or bury our feelings. That will literally turn us into the monsters we feared growing up. This isn’t about being weak. It’s about being strong enough to get help so you can be the dad your kids deserve. Be the husband your wife fell in love with. Be the friend that others looked up to when we were all young.
Bravery isn’t not being afraid. It’s moving forward even when you’re terrified. Strength isn’t ignoring your pain. It’s acknowledging it, accepting it for what it is, and moving to overcome it.
Guys, we got this. We really do. But only if we don’t try to lie to ourselves. That story always ends the same way and it’s an early grave.
Absolutely man. It's got me off all the PTSD meds. And I've never been able to do that since 07.
My favorite thing is when Joe knows something about something because he heard it from this one guy and then he talks like he knows what he's talking about.
Someone did a video compilation of Joe and "his buddy" / "i know a guy"...its hilarious
Taking kratom every day they have done for a long time. Have been sick the last few days too so have taken a little extra it has worked well so far. Feeling shit weird type who yes drank 20 cups of coffee completely shaky and uncomfortable feeling in the chest. What should I do, this is dangerous. Do they happen if you take them when you are sick. Know that you should not drink alcohol with viruses in the body. Can they harm anything if you take kratom sick? So they do not go to heart well?
Today they were like this, I did not feel the usual feeling I usually get. So thought it was tolerance took more and more. Now I am shaken completely overstimulated, they feel like in a negative way. Like a caffeine overdose.
It really is bothersome...especially when he embellishes and exaggerates about a plant that people are working really hard to keep legal..
Because he does research and is very intelligent
Kratom has saved THOUSANDS OF LIVES PERIOD
I'm curious, how has it saved lives? Do you mean as a replacement for opiates?
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Definitely wish ignorant ppl like you would reincarnate as an individual who struggles with addiction. U just may. Then, it would be interesting to see if you made such comments
Millions tens of millions. Not thousands
Phillip Cheese its a temporary replacement to detox off of heroin vikes percs ect..... And then it gives you the power of weening off with mild withdrawals if any.
I was addicted to opiates for over a year. Never bought them from the street, my dr prescribed them to me. After wanting to get off them, I did Suboxone for two weeks. I weaned off of that and tried Kratom. It has stopped my cravings, given me energy for the day and makes me feel relaxed. I am now officially two weeks clean from opiates. I will never look back! Kratom saved my life.
I was sober from opiates for years and then I found kratom and it reopened that same desire and now I'm just addicted to kratom. Goes both ways.
Kratom ruined mine
@@jasonday8334
My man.
I'm likewise Stepping down Kratom right now......
I'm not particularly afraid of the withdrawal because I've been through opiate and benzo withdrawal. I know it'll be nothing by comparison.
But how far along are you now? How many caps do you take a day now?
Quitter
@@jasonday8334 Man, 4oz a day is quite insane. Not to mention expensive.
You honestly don’t benefit from taking any more than a moderate 4-6 gram dose a few times a day. Most of it’s being wasted, especially since that’s a hard amount to digest in a day.
This is ridiculous. I use kratom every day and I’m VERY healthy and live an active lifestyle. I work full time and have two degrees. I’m a PERFECT example of someone who can use kratom safely. Please don’t bad mouth kratom. There’s millions of ppl who use it SAFELY and RESPONSIBLY every day.
Brian Christopher I was addicted to alcohol and benzos and morphine for years, and I took Kratom to ween off the dopesickness, and now I’m 1 year sober from everything except marijuana, coffee, and Kratom. No it’s not “sober” but I’m fairly certain I’m on a better road than the latter. However, Kratom gets you slumped I mean I’ve “nodded” off this stuff. It effects people siffferently as do all drugs but I take usually 20. And I’m perfectly fine?
Hold This L If you’re taking 20 pills that’s how you got a nod, Kratom definitely gives you a nice buzz but i wouldn’t describe it as feeling “fucked up”
Amen
@@OLDMANWAFFLES yup, just like theres people who use heroin, and other opiates and function just fine. Its a fucking stimulate of course your going to function fine, if not better. Be truthfull to yourself
I graduated trade school and worked part time at a restaurant on it, lol I never had any problems with it, it’s great
I’m 4 weeks off of Kratom, and can tell you that the withdrawals are absolutely nowhere near as bad as opiates. I weened myself off, but I would equate it more to a nicotine withdrawal than a oxy withdrawal. My worst symptom was getting the “jimmy legs” before I woke up in the morning. Plus, I sneezed a lot. But compared to suboxone, the withdrawal was nothing.
How much were you taking? Wds for me and the worse I’ve ever experienced.
Not me. Kratom WD are the worst for me. Taper down slowly is my lesson.
@@DNYLNY have you every experienced heroin,benzo or alcohol withdrawal. The alcohol and the benzo withdrawal you can actually die from. I'm not saying kratom withdrawal is nothing but comparatively it's a mild withdrawal.
Suboxone withdrawl is what im going through now. Just bought some red bali kratom going to try it in about 26 hours
Been using it for 5 years.
Stepping down right now.
So far the withdrawals are annoying but tolerable.
How long were you tired after kratom was no longer in your system ?
“Taking DMT then taking Kratom is the only way to experience life”
-Joe Rogan 05/15/2019
The people saying Kratom doesn’t “work” are the ones trying to get high off of it. Stop. Take it if you need to wean off hardcore opiates, or have anxiety issues. Stop expecting to get high and then get angry/disappointed that you wasted money
Used to make me high tbh but i cant take it anymore, shit fucks my stomach up. Was a godesend for anxiety
Yours is the best comment on here, absolutely true,if your looking to get high go somewhere else
💯 accurate 😊
As someone who's in chronic pain all the time, I'm disappointed in Joe. That feeling he got only happens the first few times, and it's not nearly as pronounced as marijuana one bit. I take Kratom and proud of it. Be careful not to abuse it. Taking ten isn't even technically abusing it. Shit man take ten tylenol and see how you come out. You'll overdose and need your stomach pumped.
I completely agree. I have used it for three years now to manage chronic neck and back pain as an alternative to my prescription opioids. Kratom has never gotten me “high” or intoxicated unless I took far too much. I had even tried it before being prescribed pain pills and It made me feel good but not fucked up. I really hate this video. This shit is why people think kratom is just “legal heroin”.
Agreed here. Mostly. I'd rather take a proper prescription pill like oxycontin. For me, it's more effective and less likely to cause euphoria. However, with the 'opioid crisis' that the doctors created in the first place it's impossible to get. Kratom is literally the only reason I'm alive.
Pennsyltucky Counter Terrorism cbd/cbg/thc used with kratom works great for pain if kratom isn’t enough at times. Depends on the type of pain and the person though I suppose.
@@doomhead4203 i haven't tried cbg. For myself cbd has no effect and thc usually makes it worse strangely. I've found some new herbals to try like akuamma. I'm excited to try them alone and in combination.
I'm still getting high from kratom after three years of on and off use. Some people might naturally have a tolerance but it is definitely not sober.
Kratom genuinely saved my life at the height of my Lyme pain. However I did get addicted for a while. Thankfully I quit back in December when my pain finally subsided a bit and didn't even have withdrawals even after a 2 year addiction.
what’s the best to use if you had withdraws and for motivation ?
I had withdrawals but I've used it only when I needed it I got to a point where I was abusing it and that was really on me but it's not like it was that hard to get over it was 2 days of sweats and chill
I've never experienced pain like I experienced during the worst of Lyme. Lyme is an entirely different level and type of pain. It's as if you can feel every nerve in your body and they are on fire. It's the first pain I experienced that i would describe as AGONY! I was never a drinker but started with Lyme. Now I'm past Lyme but struggling to stop drinking. I'm going to give kratom a try to kick the habit. I'm sorry you had Lyme, I seriously wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I hope you are doing better.
@@AprilSummers-um6tf my Lyme is under control and I'm off the kratom but I too have a problem with drinking now. Hopefully I can get that under control but it's definitely hard having gone through everything.
@crawlzzz Lyme was one of the first openly corrupt public deals made by the government to benefit the insurance industry.
After 4 years of debilitating health problems and being misdiagnosed with everything from celiac to lupus, I finally got the correct blood tests done. Within a few months, the government announced new guidelines for treating Lyme that included one round of antibiotics. Dr's that pursued more would be prosecuted for malpractice. Dr's didn't even want to look at my blood tests. If you had a positive Lyme test, Dr's wanted nothing to do with you. I had to let it run its course. The level of stress and humiliation involved in navigating the meat grinder, that is, the medical industrial complex, can not be overstated. When you are in agony and desperately trying to find an answer, there is nothing worse than hearing a chipper nurse telling you "good news, all your tests were negative "!
The day to day pain, stress and humiliation is brutal. It's one thing to stay in bed sick when you have a documented reason, it's another to be bed ridden while all of the Dr's and specialists have just given you the good news....you are perfectly healthy. It's a massive mind extracurricular activity.
I use Kratom as a tool to focus when I'm trying to make music, or as a stimulant for when I'm going to a social gathering. I also sometimes have some in my protein shake after a workout when it's a nice day so when I'm walking home I can take in my surroundings better.
Like most people here are saying, it's really not as bad as Joe is making it out to be. I think it's largely misunderstood as just another drug to get you fucked up, but I see it as more of a natural medication for depression and addiction. It's a miracle plant and I love it ❤️
i used to take adderall for fatigue.. all i use is weed now i hope kratom will give me some energy.. i'll never use pills again.
Its fine if you use smaller amounts but if you use a bunch you can get super dependent on it
Joe Biden hates in kratom?.. wow.. another reason for me to dislike that dummy
@@Earth.is.F1AT heh
Can u use combined with THC? They say with alcohol is dangerous
4 years of a heroin addiction cured becuase of kratom
Curing addiction with addiction doesn’t really work.
I’m sure you learned what kratom is really like though at this point.
My old manager was addicted to all sorts of drugs and pills and the only thing that keeps him off that stuff is Kratom. I've never tried it but I'm glad that it can help people off of worse things.
so he is addicted to kratom instead?
@@huiAPPOAJ Probably, still the best option if you can't make yourself be 100% sober on everyday basis
Kratom got me to stop a horrible fentanyl addiction. Now I can live my life the way it’s meant to and I’m very thankful to be back to my normal self. I do have to take pretty big amounts but it doesn’t fucc me up like other opiates do. I just do white in the morning, green in the afternoon / early evening and then red vein for sleep and I feel great!
will kratom sync the audiio with the voice id like that
I'd really like thaaat.
I almost wana go buy some and test this theory cause when I watched this I was baked and just thought it was me but nope just YT
Dmt might
FUCK YOU!!! I didn't notice it until I read your comment lmao😂
hopefully like exportianak.com
Joe "I don't understand opioids" Rogan
Tolerances 👌
When he tried to describe the opiate high. Yeah, that’s why millions of ppl are addicted.
Pop 40 mgs of oxy with a 22 oz Bud diesel. Then tell me how “high” KRAtom gets yeah.. fucking joke.
@@jasonking3571 I'd die.
@DCM88 Coffee is better.
It does give you a "HIGH" but it's different... it's a powerful experience for sure, a very positive one! By the way, there's a big difference between the farm grown Kratom and the wild harvested Kratom. I get my Kratom from Borneo Energy, it comes from the jungle of Borneo in Indonesia. From my experience this is the best quality and best price Kratom in the world.
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I got a bag of the Borneo energy green when I was in Bali, I guess that's where it's made. I don't have much experience with kratom, but is borneo energy really the best? Is it pure and reliable compared to other brands/vendors?
@@ncyrider16 Kratom does not grow in Bali but it grows in Borneo, and Borneo Energy is the only local community that collects and produces wild grown kratom, that is by far the best one available, totally on it´s own level compared to all of those farmed kratoms.
Maeng Da Man myself...I have tried Meang Da, Bali, Indo, Thai, Malay and Borneo......I stick with Maeng Da......Invigorating.....No High...In my experience...As long as its handled correctly and preserved and fresh...Can easily go stale, like Coffee......
Its "dangerous" when it's better than all the drugs from pharmaceutical companies
Facts it's bullshit
I had Kratom a few times, but it’s not that interesting. Makes jou a bit relaxed but thats all. Joe is really exaggerating here.
Makes your farts smell like green tea too
he is defiantly exaggerating that shit does not get you high
@@jonhowerton2537 i swear i got high of it but its not like a weed or a drunk feeling so i get where ur saying its not a high but i really felt some type of high
@@jonhowerton2537 and i took a red strain
Shit effects people differently
Joe "I'ma not do more research before missinforming millions of people" Rogan
Under rated comment as fuck
Ppl abuse it went to treatment with a kratom addict I'm just searching for a legal high rn
Exactly it helps millions of people. Dude I live Joe but he is such a misinformed fuck sorry just extremely pissed
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What research needs to be done? Some liberal will find a link to cancer or something...
Wow. Makes me realize maybe I shouldn’t take Rogan serious about other things
He calls himself an idiot all the time. If you took anythjng he said seriously without further examination, you are also an idiot
Yeah he’s just a guy who talks to a lot of people who know stuff , he’s pretty dumb about most things.
Curtis McLeod nope, he gets payed to say stupid shit like this.
Phil J.L Fig bingo
If you are physically active, kratom keeps you going strong. If you are sedentary, kratom enhances relaxation. You'll probably want to sleep. Use it before exercise, but NOT before a long car drive.
I use it before workouts...only around 2-3 grams (4-5 capsules). I have never felt the need to up the dose in 3 years.
This is a perfect example of how every substance affects everyone different
You have to take SO MUCH Kratom to get high, you usually puke.
Joe..."it gets you high"...
Proceeds to smoke blunt after blunt.
Any serious responsible Kratom user doesn't take pill form. Raw leaf only please.
Yep 3 tsp. every 6 hours. The pill form just coagulates in your stomach and gives no effect at all. (Edit: I originally said tablespoon but I take 3 teaspoons 😁😂🤣)
He's referring to putting kratom in empty capsules.
You only have to take "SO MUCH" kratom to get high if you take it every day. Also unlike a lot of kratom users I don't hear joe saying "weed doesn't get you high"...
@@DoobSac
no, he's always referred to urban ice organics.
Yup, kratom pills are for noobs.
I tried it for my first time today,I feel amazing. Ive heard good things and bad things about it but I think I've found something good. I have major depressive disorder my anxiety is gone I'm in such a good mood
How you doing with it now?
Kratom does not get you "high"
You might feel good and somewhat euphoric, but it's not a "high" like Rogan was describing it.
I'm from Thailand. In here people boil the leaves and drink it like tea. It doesn't make you high but gives an energy and in a good mood. 😁😁
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Which only releases the mitragynine.... they dry the leaves here and grind them into a powder.... the drying process produces 7 hydroxymitragynine which is different
Yea I ha e don't like that
@p dizzle you must be a new user. I used it once, felt like oxy, then never got that feeling again
Anyone thinking about using kratom, or just starting out with kratom, I would suggest to be very careful, and practice strong self-discipline. If you start taking it more and more, you can easily get to the point where you need to take it all day long morning to night, and can't go more than an hour or 2 without it. And once you are at this point, quitting is extremely difficult. It's a long arduous, horribly depressing battle.
100% agree I thought it was a miracle for the first few months as well. A lot of people find out just how ungentle it can be a few months into regular use. That shit was a nightmare for me. Legit as bad as oxy withdrawal but in a more intense mental/anxiety withdrawal
Ii
💯💯💯💯💯 spot Fookin on!
Mark my words, one day kratom will be a major problem, beautiful in the begining, and soon enough like any other drug, it turns hideous!
I understand your point and agree with you about moderation but everybody is different. I took it often throughout the day when I first found it. Now I have it once every few days (couple times a week) in the morning and I don’t Jones at all… It’s so mild that all that addiction worry was just in the mind. At least that was my experience. ☮️💚
I used Kratom for years and ended up addicted to it. I thought of it as the devil that had control over me. Then around a year ago I started using fentanyl, I switched back to Kratom 8 days ago and have a new found respect for the plant. In the last year I've overdosed 6 times 2 of which were near fatal. I overdosed on my porch at 5 am and a friend just so happened to be having trouble sleeping and for some unknown reason decided to go for a walk with narcan in his backpack. He walked past my house and found me unconscious and turning blue. No one can tell me this wasn't some kind of Devine intervention. That was the last hit of Fetty I shot.
You sound like a real loser bro.
I pray this holds true for you. 🙏👊 stay strong
does it relly helps if someone is addicted to fentalyn? im asking for my close friend who is addicted to fentalyn really bad..
Wrong. You were “high” because you took so much the first time. You DO NOT get fucked up or wasted on Kratom.
I am a chronic pain sufferer and kratom is the sole reason I'm not addicted to prescription opioids, or destroying my stomach with ibuprofen/naproxen. I'm one of thousands who can say the same.
Kratom is one of the best drugs I've ever tried. Better than alcohol, better than weed, better than opiates...the only thing that has EVER helped my depression.
Hope you’re doing ok still
I've been taking kratom since 2013. It's incredible. The red strains (red borneo, red bali etc) completely took my anxiety away in a way that nothing else ever could. You feel this warm blanket feeling all over your body and a deep euphoria that lasts the whole day. It also really improves your cardio dramatically and helps tremendously with delaying lactic acid build up and also with recovery after a hard work out session. It's an amazing and versatile plant. Btw, it's "krah -tohm." Not "crate -em."
This is spot on. How it helps with my painful legs with the lactic acid buildup, nothing works better.
For someone never tried it... What are the dosages? Joe says 1 pill, how many grams is that?
@@shayorshayorshayor Never took any pills so I can't help you with that. It's always better and cheaper to get the dried powder and start with half a tea spoon and add more until you hit a sweet spot that you're comfortable with. Don't underestimate how strong this stuff can be.
@@lessthanpinochet what am I looking for, for the "sweet spot"?
@@shayorshayorshayor trust me, you'll know. You'll feel just right, if you take any of the red strains like borneo, the sedative ones. The white strains are good for working out and being active but won't give you that sedative feeling that most people want.
I have asbergers and Kratom helps me chill/normalize to a degree but I’ve noticed quick access to information recall is affected to some degree on higher doses. You don’t want to take high doses for long periods or you WILL experience withdrawal symptoms for about a week. Taper off progressively for about a month to avoid that completely. Enjoy.
It's funny you say that actually - my memory recall sucks when I take Kratom. It's like the thoughts are there but I can't get them out.
Assburgers syndrome
When you have an opiate addiction kratom does NOT get you high. If you dont have an opiate dependency it can get you high but JR has never done smack so....
I think you would be surprised.
I went to a Kratom/Kava bar a few months ago because someone told me about it and I got a regular tea that they serve and that was a pleasant kind of stimulant like Joe was saying. I went back like a week later and tried the double shot they offer to see what that was like, and damn it was as if I took one too many Percocet. Definitely a nice time but can for sure see it becoming a problem with the wrong person. I don’t think it should be scheduled at all though, in fact I know it helps opioid addicts come off of whatever they’re struggling with. I’m all for it.
Nothing should be a schedule drug
@🔥HALL OF FAME🔥TV I live in Mass, where is this legal?
@🔥HALL OF FAME🔥TV Interesting, thank you!
@🔥HALL OF FAME🔥TV right on dude, we need you here
I'm addicted to it worse than when I used oxy
For over a year, I was taking 800mg. of caffeine every morning. With one week of kratom, I was completely off of it, and have no desire for either. Truly an amazing plant!
Kratom is actually a part of the coffee family
hello did you really say you consumed 800mg of caffeine in the morning? like what the fuck
@@pine1780 very doable
@@pansexualdickhaver6878 I know, but as healthy adult with anxiety that would but like destroy me, 100mg caffeine is max for me. other wise instant panic attack, Weed tho I can do a g of rso no problem or 1000mg easily.
@@pansexualdickhaver6878 also not just very doably, more unlikely dose. Unless you have a caffeine tolerance. most people cap at 2 bangs lol.
Kratom is great for people with moderate-severe chronic pain or when dealing with opiate withdrawal. Recreationally, it can be pretty habit forming. Tolerance builds up quickly. I was on 30 grams a day and withdrawals were definitely a problem. I tapered off for a couple months until completely stopping. I can only imagine quitting cold turkey, or for that matter, opiate withdrawal.
Kratom helped me get off of extremely dangerous drugs but it is extremely addictive. Mentally and physically. Just because it can’t kill you doesn’t mean it isn’t harmful for you.
more or less what matters most is each owns reasoning why and when they take a certain substance. that can either improve their lives or bring them lower
I take Kratom everyday and I’ve never gotten high from it. This clip is missing the point.
Pasquale Boris anytime I take a high dose it does the opposite of what I want. Cold sweats and skin irritability. I’ve treated myself for over a year and it’s a beautiful plant. I hate seeing joe act like it’s something it’s not.
Just outta curiosity why do you take it every day? What are the benefits?
@Pasquale Boris So that's why the government wants to ban it. So that the pharmaceutical companies can keep people on painkillers,methadone, and suboxone. Unbelievable.
I’m high off it right now.
try taking more. youll catch a nice opiate buzz almost like a low oxy dose
Kratom is amazing, but mind you it can also become your master, and it is a bad master.
Don't let it thrust it's claws into you, because the withdrawal isn't a nice thing.
Believe me, don't make the same mistake like me and take it responsibly.
For me, Kratom used to remove all depression completely. I mean all of it. Made you super interested in activities, relaxed, joyful; energetic. No hangover and it’s easy to kick. It’s the perfect drug. It still gives me energy years later, but the calm euphoria is reduced due to tolerance, sadly. It’s hardly a scary or harmful drug at all.
Was it green Kratom? What was the dosage amount?
@@tfahad2051 mostly red vein when I started out, but now I prefer white as it makes me less sleepy. Put a heaping teaspoon of kratom into a French press and about .75 L of boiling hot water. Steep for 20-30 min. Strain and drink as a tea.
@@flakdampler11 Thanks. I'm just looking to get it because I've heard it also helps with depression. I would love to try anything that will also help me stay focused at work
@@tfahad2051 it’s perfect for that. Try the company kratom krush for really cheap prices.
@@flakdampler11 thanks bro
Says the guy who tells everyone to do DMT.
Alex Sherman hahahHhHa that’s a good one man
Evwryone should try dmt at least once!
Same with ayahausca
Heavy doses of mushrooms and acid
Very different "high"
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tony stanze Exactly brother. Ppl try to compare many drugs when a lot of them get you high just in different ways. Trying to compare Opiates and LSD/DMT is like comparing apples to Oranges.
The effects vary wildly depending on the individual. For me it soothed the ever present nerve pain in my arms and legs. My arms and legs feel like they're on fire and for whatever reason Kratom helps. The burning sensation has been so pervasive that I've frozen my loved ones out of my house by running the A/C until ice cicles are hanging from the ceiling. I feel normal while being able to think clearly due to the dulling of chronic pain. For me there's no high rather I notice 20 minutes later I can think more clearly. I suggest you try it while at home to see how if at all it effects you. For me the white leaf works the best which goes against the descriptions. It works for some and not others. I suggest you buy a very small quantity to see if helps. 1 teaspoon mixed with 8 oz of water is what I take.
Exactly. Not sure of this being “blasted” thing Joe speaks about. I have never been blasted from kratom.
That sounds really difficult, how long have you been experiencing that for?
Red strain isnt better for the pain?....ive never taken it but i heard red strain better for pain
Does the pain flair up with worse weather? You should look into if you have RSD.
A kratom importer told me that at first he would say "red is for bed, white is for flight", so there are several types.
Joe has no idea what he's talking about again.
You take kratom?
bro how? he fucking does it lol
What do frogs know about drugs? Ok there's one 5-DMT frog that gets you high. But nothing else.
The Scranton Strangler but that’s literally the context he’s talking about it. He says 2 is just a stimulant but 10 and you’re high.
@@joshchavez8190 ...You can get high on five and maybe not have to barf. It's not "like an opiate." Yes, I've done both.
I love kratom!. I can't even put into words how much kratom helped me! Especially when everything big pharma gave me didn't help.
Fun fact, kratom isn't usually sold as pills. Matter of fact I've never seen kratom pills. It's usually sold as crushed leaf turned into powder leaf. Sometimes they sell capsules which are just filled with crushed leaf powder. Kratom is grown mainly in rainforest in tropical climates. Pills are made in labs which is not where kratom is made! After years of use, kratom is more like coffee but better! Definitely don't feel like drugs on it. Replace alcohol with kratom and watch your life start taking off. Alcohol will hold you back, where as kratom will help you in many aspects of life. The trick with kratom is not to abuse kratom! Don't abuse it ! Less is so much better!
Joe "a different kind of not sober" Rogan
@Major woody 30 pills 😂😂😂😂😂
True I have experience take kratom
Gotta be careful to not just switch addictions. An addictive personality can get addicted to anything.
Joe "8 pills of Kratom" Rogan
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That's like maybe 4 mg, not much.
@@flogtwo right...not much at all
Thats about 6 grams of kratom
Dam I take like 20 or so at a time and feel like I'm normal now. LoL
I'm recovering from cancer and chronic pain is my life. I have been on oxycodone since 2021. When irun out of my 10 day (60pill) supply i start getting the effects of withdrawl. I bought some Bali Red vein Kratom and i'm trying it for the first time right now. I feel sluggish almost drunk but functional. My eyes feel saggy. I'm calm as can be but it feels like im borderline overdosing. Not a pleasant feeling. I wouldn't advise jumping into these unless you take small experimental doses until you figure out what works. Just and FYI i bought the capsules says 600Mg but doesnt say the amount of Krantom.
Sorry i misread the bottle says 60 gram pills doesn't give the mg of the Kratom in them.
You don't get high from Kratom unless you have zero opiate tolerance and even then the feeling is nowhere near the euphoric high you get from hydro / oxy (ie all things being equal)
Paul Denet untrue I’ve snorted two Oxy and two Xanax at once before still not as good as a good Kratom high which starts to feel like ecstasy at high doses
rxb Dj that’s ridiculous
SCP 83 I was being an unapologetic asshole that day main point is Joe is likely not lying he probably got eff up
rxb Dj If you feeling an X type high that’s not kratom lol
YOUniverse1234 yes it is look up the active alkaloids like 9-methoxymitragynine
7-hydroxymitragynine is lab proven to be 13 times more powerful an analgesic than morphine but is only 2% of the alkaloid makeup so you have to consume at least 10x the recommended dose or more if you’re a heavy opiate user
Kratom took away my severe narcotic medication withdrawals (restless leg syndrome, depression, anxiety, despair, hot and cold flashes, sleeplessness, etc) for 2-3 hours per dose. I would take up to 15 capsules at a time during the worse times. I have never had Kratom withdrawal. I can attest that Kratom was a lifesaver for me! It has never made me high, only feeling "normal". I always used Red Vein Bali.
after you took your 15 pills , how long till it kicked it so your withdrawals can stop ? heard red bali/md is best for withdrawals fam any tips would help
You are very lucky my friend, quitting kratom was harder for me than quitting real oxycodone
@@GabeItchesswhite Maeng da is the strongest, I take two big teaspoons then I drink hot sleepytime tea with chamomile. Hope you are better by now 🙏🏻
Did it actually help with withdrawals?
if you guys are curious about what it feels to high on kratom, ask a Malaysian, especially the ones in the north region. we mix kratom water with coke(because kratom is super bitter) * we also add some cough syrup to get more high effects(not good for your health obviously). its actually lean but in south east asia version. we call it as “koroi”
In Thailand they call it 4x100.. Lol
I'm good with weed lol
In South East Asia, usually normal people just boil the leaves and drink the water for health benefits.
BUT drug ADDICTS will mix kratom tea with other substances such as mosquito coil, soft drink, syrup, horse pill (amphetamine) and meth which can cause multiple organ failures and other health hazards.
Kratom has benefits for health but don’t abuse it.
I find it's good for depression
In Malaysia, we call it ketum, some people here that used it for traditional medicine, boil the leaves and drink it like a tea it's good for pain relief, sore muscles, diabetes, etc. And some people that want to get the "kick"/high from the plant here used to boil the leaves and mix it with cough syrup or strong carbonate drink like coca cola, pepsi or mountain dew.
WELP GUESS IMA BUY SOME KRATOM
“Googles “
Dont do it
@@drcrowlee its just a joke dont get ur panties in a bunch
@@drcrowlee why not
If you're buying it to get high I can assure you that you'll be disappointed. I use it for chronic pain, and have never had a high. I've taken too much on accident when I was new to it, and all that happened was severe nausea. God only knows whatever else Joe is taking with it. 😔
Ive been downing kratom for the past 2 years daily, around 30. I work 10 hours a day no breaks, no lunch. I take 6 and i alleviates the pain. Also, get a nice buzz every time. Never had to increase the amount, ever...no tolerance levels imo
Not gonna lie, i went 10 days without the kratom and i when i took it i felt this feeling like no other. it was amazing. it felt so euphoric and i just cuddled up in my bed and smiled.
Similar for me, feels a bit like molly obviously not even close to as strong but definitely similar
@@rhino5250 oh yeah I take like 6 pills of some 20x extract and a couple beers and a bowl and im nodding off in bliss
@@rhino5250 i took 10 pills and dont feel nothing .. which grains you took ?
Yeah molly without the strong intensity.
Junkie 🤦🏽♂️
It does help you get off pills but it also gives u worse withdrawals than pills
not in my experience, went to the mental hospital for two weeks and quit kratom CT. no WD’s. no suboxone even though they offered. they prescribed me only risperaDONE (antipsychotic)
"High" is a stretch. It just makes you feel different effects based on what you're taking. Darker Kratom tends to chill you out a little more while lighter strains tend to stimulate you. It's tough to take too much because you just get nauseated.
I’ve taken large doses and it can be pretty euphoric
Are you sure? The only reason i started taking it was to get high lol. After about a month i built up a tolerance and it sucked after that
donkey punch the first time I took some I took about 6 grams of some high quality Bali. I was fucked up I felt really good but after about a week it was pretty lame.
Eh.. everyone reacts to drugs differently but it definitely gets me high. 4 grams of kratom, especially a lot of the red strains feels identical to 10 mg of oxycodone. Very very similar body high
And it does on mu opioid receptors so my experience is also a very common one amongst other kratom users as well
I take like 18 every morning and I have never got high on kratom. It does provide mild pain relief. But I’ve never gotten high of kratom.
Kratom gets you high but I can actually do something on Kratom I can’t do anything on 3 hydrocodones lol
Hell I used to do 9 oxycontin 40 a day and function it was hell getting off them
Unless you are on a lot of white vein with pinpoint pupils and cleaning out your car randomly all while talking to everyone who passes by, nobody is even able to tell you're on anything. Take adderall for example, people look so cracked out on that shit.
@Wille red is the relaxing opiate version and green is like the upper version but not crackhead energy and white is crack head, that shit hurts my head can't drink white
@@chickasawstarrmountain9747 thats ridiculous take it easy on yourself
@@giovannitrentalange2822 same white is like too much coffee start shaking and im sure you could OD on it. Reds only give you belly ache but after awhile it stops happening unless you go crazy one day. Red is most opiate like for sure. Red bali has been the number 1 go too. I like it a lot myself but I like all reds. Yellow is relaxing and euphoric. Mix the 2 feels great. I just had 17 grams of priemum bali. I know its a lot and I shouldnt do that but its better then addiction to feddy. I'm okay with this but I know at some point I need to reduce. 6 months off methadone and 73 days off feddy. Kradom helps not crave other things. I stopped drinking every night.
I guess it depends on your chemistry and physiology. I've been using kratom(red mengda, green and white Malay and Bali) for about 2 years now. My usual dose is about 3-5 g daily, broken up into 3 or 4 servings. I was able to kick a dependency of painkillers for my shoulder and midback. Everything in moderation. Ive gotten many people off of opiates using kratom, and then they would ease off kratom as well. I also know people that stay "high" on kratom, but that's abuse. Overall, it's a safer, natural alternative to painkillers. This is only my opinion based on personal use so be careful.
Wonder if Joe was already high as hell on THC, it would definately increase the effects
yes and no.. no is having kratom parties nor is there dealers on the corner pushing this stuff. It almost in a league of its own, just needs to be respected or it will consume you.
If you have an addictive personality be careful yall. Ive been addicted to this sludge for 5 years and the withdrawals can be horrific if you take a bunch every day over a period of time like I did.
This is facts that shit gets me so high but the taste😫 and withdrawals can be worse because there are so many unstudied alkaloids in kratom that also act as ssris.
How are you doing a year later ? Are you still using ?
Were you able to break free?
The more you take kratom, the less intense the high becomes, as with everything else. That's why most people who take that much kratom say it's not a "high". Caffeine can get you really revved up as well if you haven't had it in a long time.
Kratom is a life saver for injuries, PTSD, anxiety or depression. ❤️❤️❤️
You are so right it has truly saved my life
Kratom saved my life. I was trying to get off heroin by buying suboxone tabs off the street. I had moved away and my source screwed me. The withdrawal from suboxone was worse than heroin. I didn't sleep besides micro naps over the course of 5 days. I found out about Kratom and was able to find a place that sold it. I took 4 grams of kratom with water and all of my symptoms went away within 10 minutes. My vision wasn't blurry, body pain went away, suicidal thoughts diminished, resting heart rate went from 140 to 100.
Hey what strain did you use..I'm on percocet..about 6 a day..I want to get off..I found out about kratom this evening.feeling hopeful
Kratom saved my life! No longer on prescriptions for pain, depression and anxiety. ❤️
Finding kratom was one of the best things that ever happened to me. If not for it, I would be using real drugs that bring about real disaster. Even good things are often intended in proper moderation. However, it’s still an all natural plant matter (simply ground up) that is helping millions of people live a life they never thought they would have the luxury of living. It should be available everywhere! God bless..and thanks, Joe!
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It was used for Surgery asshole, in Ancient China
There is a face book page called “quitting kratom” these people talk so bad about it, because they abused the plant and would take about 40- 80grams a day
Those people probably only shit once a week lmao
@@SuPeRHeRoDuDe3124 I can imagine lol, i would take over 10g a day and i took a dump like 3-4 times a week. trying my best to get lower to like 4g every other day
Whoa WTF That's A Lot. 😵😁
Nah man I've had major side effects from as low as 8GPD (Gram Per Day). Currently hooked again at between 12-20 GPD and the side effects are identical. I have to take supplements to poop and Nothing seems to help the skin issues or aging issues it causes. Anyone who knows this plant knows how addictive it is. If you don't think it's almost as bad of a dependence to suboxone, methadone or heroin you just haven't been around long enough to find out! The withdrawals are almost as bad as heroin withdrawals and mentally they're a little harder to handle honestly. Phsycially they're not as bad but they cause major anxiety when quitting for me. I still think they should be legal. But I also think all drugs should be legal
@@benink5690 drink 2 cups of celery juice In the morning. It helps with constipations and clearing out your colon
I’ve never gotten high off Kratom. Even after taking 10 pills.
i rebuke that stinky DEVIL in JESUS CHRISTS NAME!!!! HA! "KRAVE KRATOM" MADE ME PUKE MY GUTS OUT!!! stop right now, you are in danger friend. please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@jeantriplesrelax old man it affects everyone differently
Kratom has some nasty withdrawals and is pretty addictive but Rogan is right. It's a very "clean" high. You feel fantastic but you don't feel inhibited/dysfunctional in anyway. It's also super hard on your stomach lol and puking it very very common.
My knees and back are wrecked from years of doing concrete and they had me on pain therapy fucking morphine patches and OC.....buddy of mine told me about Kratom and I've been taking for 2 years now and haven't touched any opioids since......
It isn't a cure all for chronic pain but it definitely takes the edge off and it's allowed me to keep working physically demanding jobs
Any withdrawals?
How much do you take?
@@johnavina7220 normally just a tablespoon with some orange or grapefruit juice and on bad mornings when the temperature drops here I'll take a tablespoon and a half
Sometimes I take 2 tablespoons but it tends to make me feel a bit nauseous and dizzy
@@ryansanborn4906 not really.....you don't feel like your coming down of of anything but you do get a bit of craving for it but it's nothing on the level of opiates......it's kinda like needing your morning coffee
It does dehydrate the hell out of you tho so stay hydrated or you'll get constipated
Kratom has helped me deal with anxiety and depression.
the itch feels the best and I quit because it's so addicting and it's legal that makes it more easy to keep using
😐 Using a substance to self medicate means that you aren't dealing with either of those things and in fact using substances for those reasons is how you become an addict.
i just started taking kratom to get off tramadol.
Yeah man is the best kratom is way just had my second trip I just got mine that I ordered
*_Jonahmicro_*
I’ve never felt high taking it. I take two big spoonfuls of it in the morning and I just feel focused and a little energetic. Like coffee.
Kratom is the best. Honestly it’s so good. I love it.
Hi Chris bell, I know you’re reading these comments
Let me tell you from very first hand experience, kratom withdrawal is real. I'm currently on day 4 and the last 3 nights I've had about a total of 6 hours sleep, total. The shivers, diarrhea, insomnia, RLS it's all very real. Be cautious taking this stuff as you can quickly get hooked
How are you today? Still Kratom free? I’ve been wanting to stop my Kratom usage CT
lol he pronounced kratom completely wrong. In Malaysia people drink that shit like orange juice. Chill out Joe it aint that crazy
We call it ketum
Johnny Flannigan I take almost 10 grams per dose and I wouldn’t call it a high or a ‘drug’. Addicting, yes, because of the receptors involved. But not a drug. Just like I wouldn’t call marijuana a ‘drug’. It’s a plant. That has a chemical compound within it that acts on receptors in your brain, that therefore cause withdrawals when those receptors stop receiving that chemical.
@@Sumo-san you also have opiate receptors all through your digestive tract as well. I shot dope for 20+ years & the stomach stuff was always the worst part of kicking dope.
@Johnny Flannigan same here I've been up to 100 grams a day for a long time. It can definitely get away from you if you buy in bulk. I have weighed out my doses in years just take it by the spoonful. Withdrawals at that point are horrible
Jason Arthur Johnson does it really work? I’m tapering off off methadone and every time I use kratom I feel absolutely no effects
*I have serious sciatic nerve damage ATM, and after I take a BIG dose of Kratom, the nerve starts twitching and firing, and my foot and leg start WORKING significantly better. My muscles literally spasm out of the numbness from it stimulating the nerve with enough magnitude. I can feel my foot more. It also is a miracle for pain! I have some nasty muscle tears in my back it wipes out and even percs and oxies do ZILCH for that pain! I mean I need an ambulance pain.*
kratom 100% gets u high. if u take a little it’s kinda stimulating and if u take enough ur body gets loose and u get reallllyyyy comfortable
Kanga Beats and then you throw up relentlessly
Shroomy Bear never had that. Just relaxed.
Shroomy Bear lol weeeaaakkk I’ve only ever felt nauseous after taking WAY too much at once, meaning 15+ grams in under an hour. If you have a weak stomach, that’s on you not the kratom 😂
conorrowens I have taken maybe about 4 times 15 gram all sorts too.. it was still just relaxing. I cant make more of it.
@@Sumo-san ok cool for you, sorry i weigh 110
So which strain or kind do you guys recommend if I'm looking to reduce anxiety?
So I guess the red is the one for me. It puts me in a good mood and chills me out.
Kratom kinda dulls all aspects of life and makes you numb but feels you with slight euphoria it’s a deceiving drug
Yo Joe I love you bro I watch your podcasts all the time and love your content but I'm also a 21 year old heroin addict and Kratom is one of the best things I've ever come across. Its not dangerous. You're not gonna overdose and die off it. There are no withdrawl ( maybe something comparable to caffeine wd in extreme cases) and it helps people who are in pain and don't want opiates.
Bro please for the love of God please help us keep this legal and legit because it is one of the only things I've ever found that I can use legally to keep me from wanting to go use heroin this should not be categorize as a harmful drug
Kratom saved my life from medical problems. I get it directly from the plantations.
Ive been taking kratom for 6 years every day. I wouldnt say it gets you high, but I would more so say that it gives you a sense of well being, energetic, makes you feel up lifted. It does take pain away also I use them for when I work double shifts at my job. Dont think this is gonna make you like BLASTED OMG IM SO FUCKED UP, its not like that.
Of course it doesn't get you high if you take it every day.
Thanks Joe for potentially getting Kratom banned. Kratom does not make you high.
Nashville Dude yes it does...I’m high off it now.
@@mitragynaspeciosabliss9934 ......i know RIGHT!!! LOL
Lol I take 20 ills. 10 grams
It definitely gets you high
It definitely gets you high - but it definitely doesn't get you high like classic opiates do, which is a HUUUGE difference. Frankly, weed alters you MUCH more than kratom does; but it IS absolutely still a real deal no bullshit 'high'.