Loved your reaction to Martha's not getting saved quickly by the Doctor. "Stop yelling 'I'll save you' and go freaking save her -- now!" Yes, girl. I'm with you.
I feel that I should mention that the Doctor didn’t blow up a sun to talk to Rose. He found a random supernova in the universe that happened to be occurring at that moment.
THE DOCTOR: By the way, you'll be needing this. He pulls a TARDIS key on a long chain out. MARTHA (unbelieving): Really?! THE DOCTOR: Frequent Flier's Privilege. (He slowly feeds it into her hand, and looks at her properly) And, thank you. MARTHA: Don't mention it. Took seven episodes but Martha is now fully accepted as a Companion. A very big moment indeed.
To clarify, this episode was inspired by the show 24, in that the story is supposed to take place in real time. That Adams used forty two as the answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything is, I'm afraid, merely coincidental, as is the fact Adams worked as script editor during the Fourth Doctor run, as well as writing the storied The Pirate Planet and The City of Death. And my apologies for being contrary, but there are things called solar winds; charged particles and plasma from the corona, along with a mixture of various minerals and wrapped up in a magnetic field, can create something that on a planet would be called wind. Lastly, in the Doctor's defense, he did survive being frozen solid in the Third Doctor story The Daemons, so he knew he had a good chances of surviving being frozen here.
Only the producer said the name was a reference to the show '24', and that it was because the running time was about 40 minutes. The writer (Chibnall) said it was a playful reference to Douglas Adams.
@@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg I don't get to see many interviews with Dr Who staff here in Australia, sadly, so this slipped by me. Consider me corrected. Thanks for the update.
I love how pro-active Martha is and enjoy re-visiting her path. She is a character who you would think would choose to be a doctor and you can also see a through line with her family. THis is part of what makes her a marvelous companion and foil for the doctor.
Stars have non-visible atmospheres just like planets, that's what the Sun's corona is. So, close to a star, a moving ship would experience "wind" as the ship pushes through that atmosphere towards the photosphere.
I love all the Hitchhiker's Guide references in Doctor Who! The line "Saving the world in my jim-jams, very Arthur Dent, now there was a nice man!" cemented my love for 10. In his first full episode!💚❤
The Doctor Who continuity is an odd place. We know Arthur Dent is a real person in the Whoniverse, but Alien is just a movie franchise. Ironically, Doctor Who also appears to be a (movie) franchise in the Doctor Who universe.
@@manjackson2772 there are some direct references - there's a series 8 poster on the side of a bus IN a series 8 episode, for example. The issue is complicated by the fact that the Doctor has crossed over with other media (Call the Midwife, for example - and EastEnders) with media that treats Doctor Who as a show, but which recognized the Doctor as a person.
It's a shame you have to ignore the comments section, but it's more of a shame that I'd have advised that anyway. So many people just don't seem to understand what a spoiler is when they give them out
The title is indeed a reference to Douglas Adams' answer to everything, but fun fact Douglas Adams has also written a few Doctor Who episodes in the classic series!
Not only that, but he threw enough Hitchhiker's easter eggs in that between that and Ten mentioning Arthur Dent in the Christmas Invasion, you could argue that Doctor Who and Hitchhiker's share a universe! (Along with Dirk Gently, one of Adams' other works)
The Krikkit story was originally going to be a Doctor Who story (swap Slartibartfast for The Doctor and the Bistromath's Someone Else's Problem Field with the TARDIS' Chameleon Circuit)
Ironically this episode was filmed in winter, actually snowed outside the studio where it was being film, and because of the set was laid out, they had to keep the doors open to the building making it extremely cold on set..
"There's a basis of a good story" is how I feel about most Chibnall episodes. They're decent, sometimes some cool ideas, but lack emotional resonance for me. Amazing acting from David though. And glad to see Martha being the protector. And the MUSIC fills with such love. Love season 3 music. And the Saxon theme when we see Martha's mom with the agents. UGH! There's so many themes that come back again and again through Ten's run. My favourite is "This Is Gallifrey", which you might recognise after watching the finale.
Agreed. This episode is perfectly reasonable - in fact I'd go as far as to call it good, but it also says a lot that despite Chibnall running the show for a few years, this is still probably his best episode in my opinion.
Doctor Who doesn't spoil Torchwood. TW was made for adults (sex, violence, swearing, the whole shebang) so they know a good chunk of the DW audience won't have seen it nor do they want to encourage them to see it. Similar idea the other way around. The Doctor doesn't show up because they didn't want kids tuning in to see him and getting a face full of alien sex instead. There are references, but nothing you wouldn't already be familiar with.
29:34 so many people miss Saxon being mentioned in the "Love and Monsters" episode on the newspaper, and again in the Xmas star Racnos episode when the army gets orders to fire on it. He's running for PM.
HUGE fan of this one. Not a perfect episode but something about it really resonates with me. The fast pace, the constant stress throughout, the sweaty grimy feel of everyone on the ship, the ALMIGHTY music, Martha holding her own, the Doctor being both really scared AND really scary when he (briefly) becomes the monster of the episode, even the CGI still holds up 17 years later.
@MusikCassette Normally I'd agree with you. Bless the writer Chris Chibnall, he's a lovely chap, but he does like to cherry pick elements from far better episodes to put into his own, and it rarely helps. But in the case of 42, I'd personally say The Satan Pit associations end at the possessions, maybe the talk of 'burning with me' could be seen as devilish which could lead to tonal similarities, but outside of that and the sun possessing people, I don't think it's too derivative of that episode. Totally see your point though, and I absolutely get why you and Angela both thought about that episode watching this one 👍
"It's not solid writing, but it's fun." If you ask me, that is an apt description of this writer's attempts at sci-fi/fantasy. His crime dramas, though, are usually superb.
35:03 - Old Who simply didn't have time pass on Earth while they were traveling, since it's a time machine. However, this way they can write in a family dynamic. However, the TARDIS did have a viewscreen.
Fun fact: Douglas Adams, the author of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy books, worked on the Classic Doctor Who series at one point during Tom Baker's run as the Fourth Doctor. Specifically, he was the Script Editor for Season 17, and wrote the serial "The Pirate Planet". He also wrote "Shada" which never finished filming due to union strikes. He reworked that story to become the basis for the the first book of his Dirk Gently series. He also co-wrote "City of Death", but under the pseudonym David Agnew which was a common practice for editors because the BBC didn't like it when producers and editors commissioned themselves as writers. Adams also had another story in mind for Doctor Who, but never got to write it. Instead, he reworked it and it became his third Hitchhiker's book: "Life, The Universe and Everything". Slartibartfast took the role that would have been The Doctor. Another Fun Fact: Douglas Adams started his career as a contributor for "Monty Python's Flying Circus" and even appeared on screen as an extra occasionally. The similarities in humor are pretty obvious.
Yes, Life, the Universe and Everything would have been "Doctor Who and the Krikkitmen". Although I think Ford played a bit of a Doctor-like role throughout the first couple of books. He's the Doctor if instead of a TARDIS, he had to bum a ride off passing spaceships, and if instead of saving the world, he was mainly interested in going to parties and getting off with girls. And actually, Dirk Gently uses a lot of elements from City of Death as well. It's the setting and characters from Shada, mixed with some of the villain from City of Death, mixed with some original material to link it all together since it was removed from the Doctor Who framework.
I thoroughly enjoy your speculations on whatwhenwherehowwhy in every episode. Those in the know *(no spoilers)* grin every time the just-wait-til-you-find-out thought comes to mind. Looking forward to your reactions to favorite episodes yet to come. Cheers....
2:00 I think it is weird to hold it against Martha that she has a crush on the Doctor. He shows her space and Time. People fall in love for worse reasons. Also if we are honest, she is a better match for him than Rose ever was.
"I don't think it would be windy in space." True, but they are falling towards a star & as a result moving as fast as the gravity well it creates demands.
In the classic series when the companions left with the Doctor there was always the possibility they would never see home again, especially as the Tardis's directional mechanism was very erratic in the old days. And no cell phones either for the 60's- 80's companions.
"42" is basically Doctor Who's answer to "24", since the events of the episode happen in "real time", i.e. 42 minutes. Bit of a minor classic this one.
All the classic Doctors were created for specific moments in time (pun intended) during the years the show was being made, while Christopher Eccleston had the task of convincing the audience there was still a *place* for Doctor Who at all. Doctor Who as a show was incredibly lucky when they were able to cast David Tennant. The sheer scope of his talent is hard to define. He's played infamously difficult roles on stage, he can carry comedy, drama, AND romance. He brought all that depth of ability with him to the show and his gift was to create space for the Doctor to be more than he'd ever been before. He raised the potential bar, he gave writers a freedom to explore difficult themes and ultimately made #10 a very difficult act to follow, because as an audience, now we know that the silly/fun episodes can ALSO have important things to communicate and the result has sadly been an even greater resistance to accepting subsequent new actors to the role - most of which is undeserved.
This was an attempt at a real time adventure in the style of 24 , 42 being significant to HHG2G fans as a bonus . It moves along at breakneck speed with a point about the way we pillage resources without thought at the end . Michelle Collins does a great job as the Captain who drifts into the sentient sun with her possessed husband . Martha's mum being monitored is another warning sign methinks .
I love 42. Real-time episodes are so fun. And it's stressful, scary, and a really interesting premise. Part of why Martha is such a good companion is she just jumps in. Every time. Love her. The thing I hate about the buildup to Harold Saxon is that they really muddied it with Martha's mom. If the guy talking to her had said, "This is from Harold Saxon himself," then nobody would've thought he was Harold Saxon. And when she then says it, we would know that it wasn't Saxon she was talking to.
This episode is good enough, it has a fun premise, some cool ideas, and a couple of decent emotional beats (plus the music is excellent as always) - but it's not the best. Not to worry though, because it's nothing but bangers for the rest of this season! The Doctor being willing to confide in Martha just how scared he is as the sentient star begins to possess him is a nice quick demonstration of how much he actually does trust and appreciate her, even if it's not as much as he should or in the way that she wants him to. By the way, happy primes wasn't just technobabble, they're an actual mathematical concept and The Doctor's description was spot on!
Hahahah, I feel like with everyone saying you're about to get the best of Doctor Who in next episodes, it's as if we're gonna fall in a pit of "meh" after this season, and nothing be quite as good, so let me add to the conversation that while I adore this season very very very much, some of my favourite doctor who writing is far off from these episodes. I don't wanna say people are wrong at all; I hope you experience much of doctor who to come as "the best". That feeling of doctor Who episodes pulling off to emotionally drain us as if we lived it, is just great. (Though next episode can be a tough watch for some obvious reason; You'd know what I mean if you watched UgoWatch's reaction video last week) But! I hope I add to some excitement build-up for things far ahead in the series, there's more brilliant writing than this season alone!
I will say theres definite value in watching 'just the first' episode of Torchwood before the end of S3. It introduces some concepts, just saying that.
I always felt that this episode was a bit harsh on the Captain. She harmed the sun but it was a lifeform so outside their frame of reference that there would have been no way for them to expect to find it. I dunno, i love the format of the episode, Burn with me is still something my brother and i say to each other but the core message seems off. Like if they'd harvested a bunch of space whales or something then it would make sense, saving money by harming life is clearly bad. But this would be like if one day you filled up your car with petrol and a bunch of people tried to kill before explaining that "don't you know, this is Alive Gasoline you monster". Just always bugged me.
It has to be noted. Douglas Adams used to be a writer on the classic series of Doctor Who. He penned three episodes in Tom Baker's era (although, the episode "Shada" was never completed and broadcast, due to industrial action, but there are clips from it which were re-used for a multi-Doctor special later), and was a script editor for Doctor Who between 1978-79. So it's appropriate to be giving Douglas Adams the nod with "42", as he was part of the Doctor Who family.
Torchwood has a much different feel than Doctor Who. It is quite a bit darker and bleak. Wasn't really my cup of tea but I'll watch it anytime just to see Eve Myles. She is fantastic in it.
I'm sure this has already been brought up many times before and I know she won't read any of these comments for months from now, but comment moderators: Please pass on that she should really take a pause on Doctor Who before Series 3, 3-part finale, watch all of Torchwood Season 1, and then resume Doctor Who Series 3 finale, etc. But because these were recorded weeks ago, it may already be too late. #timeywimey
I loved this one for various reasons. The phone call from the pod was devastating. I also loved seeing the Doctor turn on Martha, but trying desperately to fight it. Also, you rarely ever see him terrified of anything, not something happening to him, directly. Lastly, I loved seeing the woman recording the call, knowing what happens later... 2 of my all-time favorite linked episode series... the other has a few of the same characters...
Well, Harold Saxon is just this guy, you know? Also, just for fun, 42 is an unhappy number, which just goes to show, even when you know the ultimate answer to life, the universe, and everything, it's not going to make you happy.
The episode was exactly 42 minutes long, excluding the opening and closing credits. When this first aired it wasn't my favourite by a long way- but rewatching it a few times, I now don't know why I didn't warm to it (no pun intended) first time round
Chris Chibnall would later become the showrunner for Doctor Who during the 13th Doctor/Jodie Whittaker era, stepping down when Whittaker left the show, with Russell T Davies returning to become the current showrunner once again. This was the first episode of Doctor Who he wrote He would also work with David Tennant years later on the crime drama "Broadchurch" and its US remake "Gracepoint"
I never knew Chibnall wrote this episode. I don't know what everybody's specific critiques are about this episode, but it was definitely foreshadowing his run.
David Tennant is my second favorite Doctor. He really is excellent in the role. After Tom Baker (4th Doctor, but that's a hard act to follow. Also the actor to have played the Doctor for the longest period (1974 to 1981). And he was the first Doctor I saw on TV. My third favorite is yet to come.
This was probably the only time he's ever prematurely (tried to) tell someone about regeneration. He was *that* scared and unsure of what would happen in that stasis chamber.
Without any spoilers, just refresher on tidbits you might have forgotten from previous episodes: All you're meant to know at this point is that he's a BIG deal, it's expected in-world that anyone who hears his name will know who he is, even if we are clueless. He had something to do with the Lazarus project, though it's not said explicitly what his involvement was. And he warns Martha's mom against The doctor.
You may have already been informed but there is a scene rhat was cut in the final episode of this series in the American versions due to copyright, it’s nothing major but it is fun
I think the infection was psychic, caught by staring at the sun, so it could leave the Doctor easily when everything was done and communicate the sun-scooping problem between hosts
well, I'm sure at 34:09 everyone gasped and rushed to write a comment but then they heard the sexy voice of " someone" saying "Spoilers" and didn't write anything 😂😂
@@HuntingViolets Stop gatekeeping and go touch grass. There's nothing in any of our comments that are spoilery. Seriously, you Karens need to find a life. A real one, with family, and kids, not 27 cats and box wine.
I think if you don't count the outro it's pretty close to 42 minutes to be honest. But anyway, It's so good to see Martha being so properly realized as a companion in the eyes of the Doctor in this episode. A really good one, and I'm so excited to see your upcoming reactions!
It's used in other episodes but for whatever reason, this is the episode I associate with All The Strange Strange Creatures, arguably the best piece of score in the entire show.
"And then I wander off in space 'Cause there is no better place And I target all my thoughts And I try not to get caught" - Ric Ocasek (2005) And can I just say it's heartbreaking that you're not reading the comments anymore. And even more heartbreaking that some people want to spoil some episodes. So much to discuss without ruining any future episodes.
Since you are ahead from us here; 8 & 9 are single story, 10 is a stand alone & 11,12 & 13 are also a single story. I will leave it here for 'No Spoilers.' Trivia; This episode ostensibly (though not quite) takes place in real time, a technique made famous by 24 (2001). The average running time of a Doctor Who episode also happens to be about 42 minutes. It was suggested that the story would be set in the same era as The Impossible Planet (2006)/The Satan Pit (2006), revisiting Zachary Cross Flane and Ida Scott, as well as the Ood, although this did not survive to the drafting stage. This episode takes place in the 42nd century. Great reaction as always & dying for the next one.
In the Christmas special, Mr. Saxon was the government official who authorized the military to open fire on the Racnoss ship.
Mr Saxon is great.
I'd vote for him.
Loved your reaction to Martha's not getting saved quickly by the Doctor. "Stop yelling 'I'll save you' and go freaking save her -- now!" Yes, girl. I'm with you.
I feel that I should mention that the Doctor didn’t blow up a sun to talk to Rose. He found a random supernova in the universe that happened to be occurring at that moment.
Yeah she keeps repeating this, and I'm like ... that's just not right
That's just speculation, though. I've no doubt a traumatised 10 would do exactly that
@@FahadAyaz He says "I'm in orbit around a supernova" not "I caused a supernova."
@@StarkRG Doesn't he also say "I'm blowing up a Sun to say 'goodbye'?"
I think he says "I'm burning up a sun just to say goodbye"
I liked how the Doctor was desperately trying to explain to Martha that he might regenerate.
THE DOCTOR: By the way, you'll be needing this.
He pulls a TARDIS key on a long chain out.
MARTHA (unbelieving): Really?!
THE DOCTOR: Frequent Flier's Privilege. (He slowly feeds it into her hand, and looks at her properly) And, thank you.
MARTHA: Don't mention it.
Took seven episodes but Martha is now fully accepted as a Companion. A very big moment indeed.
SPOILERS:
There's a little more to that key, especially in this story
stellar wind the force of particles and energy being ejected from a nearby star.
Was looking for this comment before I typed it myself, too bad she isn't reading comments cause of spoilers
All I'll say for the next set of episodes: the back half of this series is the best half of this series. I can't wait!
True, not one of those are stinkers.
Honestly for me the weakest is Blink. Which I know may be blasphemy to some, but that's purely because the rest is so good.
@@MuchWhitteringyou're right that is blasphemy 😂
Quote from the Daleks works well here "BLASPHEMY, BLASPHEMY, BLASPHEMY!!!"
Agreed. Now we're here it's all just quality.
That freezing scene is brutal...I don't think we've ever seen the doctor so vulnerable
To clarify, this episode was inspired by the show 24, in that the story is supposed to take place in real time. That Adams used forty two as the answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything is, I'm afraid, merely coincidental, as is the fact Adams worked as script editor during the Fourth Doctor run, as well as writing the storied The Pirate Planet and The City of Death. And my apologies for being contrary, but there are things called solar winds; charged particles and plasma from the corona, along with a mixture of various minerals and wrapped up in a magnetic field, can create something that on a planet would be called wind. Lastly, in the Doctor's defense, he did survive being frozen solid in the Third Doctor story The Daemons, so he knew he had a good chances of surviving being frozen here.
"I love deadlines. I love the sound they make as they go whooshing by." D.N.A
Only the producer said the name was a reference to the show '24', and that it was because the running time was about 40 minutes.
The writer (Chibnall) said it was a playful reference to Douglas Adams.
@@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg I don't get to see many interviews with Dr Who staff here in Australia, sadly, so this slipped by me. Consider me corrected. Thanks for the update.
I love how pro-active Martha is and enjoy re-visiting her path. She is a character who you would think would choose to be a doctor and you can also see a through line with her family. THis is part of what makes her a marvelous companion and foil for the doctor.
I love Martha. She's the best.
The Doctor crying out in pain and admitting to Martha that he's scared... rips my heart to shreds every time
Stars have non-visible atmospheres just like planets, that's what the Sun's corona is. So, close to a star, a moving ship would experience "wind" as the ship pushes through that atmosphere towards the photosphere.
Oh, that's interesting.
I love all the Hitchhiker's Guide references in Doctor Who! The line "Saving the world in my jim-jams, very Arthur Dent, now there was a nice man!" cemented my love for 10. In his first full episode!💚❤
The Doctor Who continuity is an odd place. We know Arthur Dent is a real person in the Whoniverse, but Alien is just a movie franchise. Ironically, Doctor Who also appears to be a (movie) franchise in the Doctor Who universe.
@@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg The Peter Cushing movies? I think that was just Cushing's headcanon for how they could fit in.
@@manjackson2772 there are some direct references - there's a series 8 poster on the side of a bus IN a series 8 episode, for example. The issue is complicated by the fact that the Doctor has crossed over with other media (Call the Midwife, for example - and EastEnders) with media that treats Doctor Who as a show, but which recognized the Doctor as a person.
John Lumic was the name of the guy who created the Cybermen in the parallel Earth
It's a shame you have to ignore the comments section, but it's more of a shame that I'd have advised that anyway. So many people just don't seem to understand what a spoiler is when they give them out
As soon as you said 'who you gonna call' I called out 'GHOST BUSTERS!' Haha!
The title is indeed a reference to Douglas Adams' answer to everything, but fun fact Douglas Adams has also written a few Doctor Who episodes in the classic series!
I thought this was more a reference to the TV series “24”.
Not only that, but he threw enough Hitchhiker's easter eggs in that between that and Ten mentioning Arthur Dent in the Christmas Invasion, you could argue that Doctor Who and Hitchhiker's share a universe! (Along with Dirk Gently, one of Adams' other works)
@@danielcoupland4108 It's more what you said (I remember what the DW people said when it first came out) but I think it's become both :)
The Krikkit story was originally going to be a Doctor Who story (swap Slartibartfast for The Doctor and the Bistromath's Someone Else's Problem Field with the TARDIS' Chameleon Circuit)
Answer to the great question of life the universe and everything (without knowing the question)
Oh god this is my frankensteins monster isn’t it
Ironically this episode was filmed in winter, actually snowed outside the studio where it was being film, and because of the set was laid out, they had to keep the doors open to the building making it extremely cold on set..
"There's a basis of a good story" is how I feel about most Chibnall episodes. They're decent, sometimes some cool ideas, but lack emotional resonance for me.
Amazing acting from David though. And glad to see Martha being the protector.
And the MUSIC fills with such love. Love season 3 music. And the Saxon theme when we see Martha's mom with the agents. UGH! There's so many themes that come back again and again through Ten's run. My favourite is "This Is Gallifrey", which you might recognise after watching the finale.
Yeah, sadly I would say this is as good as Chibnall gets. He’s not bad with script editors. :\
Agreed. This episode is perfectly reasonable - in fact I'd go as far as to call it good, but it also says a lot that despite Chibnall running the show for a few years, this is still probably his best episode in my opinion.
@@natalieshark He has done much better stories, but they're all in Torchwood. So maybe he just can't write for a family show vs an adult show.
@@Madbuk101 Torchwood started going downhill the moment Owen was introduced.
NO SPOILERS, Its about to get EPIC!!!!!!
Like others have said, the rest of this season is Doctor Who at it's best. They make it my favourite season of modern doctor who!
Doctor Who doesn't spoil Torchwood. TW was made for adults (sex, violence, swearing, the whole shebang) so they know a good chunk of the DW audience won't have seen it nor do they want to encourage them to see it.
Similar idea the other way around. The Doctor doesn't show up because they didn't want kids tuning in to see him and getting a face full of alien sex instead. There are references, but nothing you wouldn't already be familiar with.
29:34 so many people miss Saxon being mentioned in the "Love and Monsters" episode on the newspaper, and again in the Xmas star Racnos episode when the army gets orders to fire on it.
He's running for PM.
it's not clear at this point that he's running for PM, don't spoil things please
@maddyc2412 sigh... If only people would pay attention to what has already been shown and said before they reply to me.
@@ITPalGame yes but its obvious Angela doesn't know this so stop spoiling it
@@izzywhiz7
How the hell is showing someone something they missed a spoiler?
She *already saw the episodes where it was explained*
@ but she obviously didn’t notice it so why point it out more?
HUGE fan of this one. Not a perfect episode but something about it really resonates with me. The fast pace, the constant stress throughout, the sweaty grimy feel of everyone on the ship, the ALMIGHTY music, Martha holding her own, the Doctor being both really scared AND really scary when he (briefly) becomes the monster of the episode, even the CGI still holds up 17 years later.
as Angela did I associated this one with the Satans pit. and it works to its detriment.
@MusikCassette Normally I'd agree with you. Bless the writer Chris Chibnall, he's a lovely chap, but he does like to cherry pick elements from far better episodes to put into his own, and it rarely helps.
But in the case of 42, I'd personally say The Satan Pit associations end at the possessions, maybe the talk of 'burning with me' could be seen as devilish which could lead to tonal similarities, but outside of that and the sun possessing people, I don't think it's too derivative of that episode.
Totally see your point though, and I absolutely get why you and Angela both thought about that episode watching this one 👍
Fully agree, to me this is where series 3 turns the corner and starts to get really good.
Nope. No way. I refuse to believe it was 17 years ago.
Cries in old.
@@DrKnockers05 Personally prefer _42_ to that previous two-parter.
Stars are constant projecting gas: that's wind.
You're right, but anywhere it would be _that_ dense would also be so hot as to vaporise most metals almost instantly.
"Hey Mickey you're so fine..." Yeah, hold that thought... 😉
Ricky
Hey Missy, I mean Mickey.
"It's not solid writing, but it's fun."
If you ask me, that is an apt description of this writer's attempts at sci-fi/fantasy. His crime dramas, though, are usually superb.
35:03 - Old Who simply didn't have time pass on Earth while they were traveling, since it's a time machine. However, this way they can write in a family dynamic. However, the TARDIS did have a viewscreen.
Fun fact: Douglas Adams, the author of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy books, worked on the Classic Doctor Who series at one point during Tom Baker's run as the Fourth Doctor. Specifically, he was the Script Editor for Season 17, and wrote the serial "The Pirate Planet". He also wrote "Shada" which never finished filming due to union strikes. He reworked that story to become the basis for the the first book of his Dirk Gently series. He also co-wrote "City of Death", but under the pseudonym David Agnew which was a common practice for editors because the BBC didn't like it when producers and editors commissioned themselves as writers.
Adams also had another story in mind for Doctor Who, but never got to write it. Instead, he reworked it and it became his third Hitchhiker's book: "Life, The Universe and Everything". Slartibartfast took the role that would have been The Doctor.
Another Fun Fact: Douglas Adams started his career as a contributor for "Monty Python's Flying Circus" and even appeared on screen as an extra occasionally. The similarities in humor are pretty obvious.
Yes, Life, the Universe and Everything would have been "Doctor Who and the Krikkitmen". Although I think Ford played a bit of a Doctor-like role throughout the first couple of books. He's the Doctor if instead of a TARDIS, he had to bum a ride off passing spaceships, and if instead of saving the world, he was mainly interested in going to parties and getting off with girls.
And actually, Dirk Gently uses a lot of elements from City of Death as well. It's the setting and characters from Shada, mixed with some of the villain from City of Death, mixed with some original material to link it all together since it was removed from the Doctor Who framework.
Martha Jones, breaking hearts all over the universe!
I thoroughly enjoy your speculations on whatwhenwherehowwhy in every episode. Those in the know *(no spoilers)* grin every time the just-wait-til-you-find-out thought comes to mind. Looking forward to your reactions to favorite episodes yet to come. Cheers....
2:00 I think it is weird to hold it against Martha that she has a crush on the Doctor. He shows her space and Time. People fall in love for worse reasons.
Also if we are honest, she is a better match for him than Rose ever was.
I thought it was being very complementary towards Martha
"I don't think it would be windy in space." True, but they are falling towards a star & as a result moving as fast as the gravity well it creates demands.
In the classic series when the companions left with the Doctor there was always the possibility they would never see home again, especially as the Tardis's directional mechanism was very erratic in the old days. And no cell phones either for the 60's- 80's companions.
RIP to the head-opening click effect. It shall be missed.
I like how she said that this is her jam, now we just need an episode that is her bread and one that is her peanut butter.
Don't forget the milk. 😁
"Space is disease and danger wrapped in darkness and silence" - Leonard "Bones" McCoy - *Star Trek*
David was fantastic in this one! There’s a LOT of great episode on the way, Angela! Can’t wait 😊
"42" is basically Doctor Who's answer to "24", since the events of the episode happen in "real time", i.e. 42 minutes. Bit of a minor classic this one.
Classic with emphasis on the middle 3 letters.
@@manjackson2772 We're all etitled to our opinion mate. I disagree, but did also say "minor"
I think it's about 42 minutes from the time they say there are 42 minutes till they hit the sun, but I wouldn't swear to it.
30:27 this is my exact reaction to the ocean, I'd love it if it were safe I love the ocean but it's terrifying
Underappreciated episode. Love how tense this one is.
You have been introduced to the way that Chibnall writes in Doctor Who.
He is actually history repeating itself.
All the classic Doctors were created for specific moments in time (pun intended) during the years the show was being made, while Christopher Eccleston had the task of convincing the audience there was still a *place* for Doctor Who at all. Doctor Who as a show was incredibly lucky when they were able to cast David Tennant. The sheer scope of his talent is hard to define. He's played infamously difficult roles on stage, he can carry comedy, drama, AND romance. He brought all that depth of ability with him to the show and his gift was to create space for the Doctor to be more than he'd ever been before. He raised the potential bar, he gave writers a freedom to explore difficult themes and ultimately made #10 a very difficult act to follow, because as an audience, now we know that the silly/fun episodes can ALSO have important things to communicate and the result has sadly been an even greater resistance to accepting subsequent new actors to the role - most of which is undeserved.
This was an attempt at a real time adventure in the style of 24 , 42 being significant to HHG2G fans as a bonus . It moves along at breakneck speed with a point about the way we pillage resources without thought at the end . Michelle Collins does a great job as the Captain who drifts into the sentient sun with her possessed husband . Martha's mum being monitored is another warning sign methinks .
"Over 400,000 search results." At least now we have the AI Overview lmao.
Yeah, good old AI to tell us that the Beatles had 103 number ones pre download, with their most popular song being You're All That I Want Is You
🤣🤣 Yeah, at least we've got one of the worst technologies ever invented.
We are all in space... always.
Even though this isn't a terrible episode, the name Chris Chibnall still sets my teeth on edge.
Deal with it - no spoilers!!
I love 42. Real-time episodes are so fun. And it's stressful, scary, and a really interesting premise. Part of why Martha is such a good companion is she just jumps in. Every time. Love her.
The thing I hate about the buildup to Harold Saxon is that they really muddied it with Martha's mom. If the guy talking to her had said, "This is from Harold Saxon himself," then nobody would've thought he was Harold Saxon. And when she then says it, we would know that it wasn't Saxon she was talking to.
This episode is good enough, it has a fun premise, some cool ideas, and a couple of decent emotional beats (plus the music is excellent as always) - but it's not the best. Not to worry though, because it's nothing but bangers for the rest of this season!
The Doctor being willing to confide in Martha just how scared he is as the sentient star begins to possess him is a nice quick demonstration of how much he actually does trust and appreciate her, even if it's not as much as he should or in the way that she wants him to.
By the way, happy primes wasn't just technobabble, they're an actual mathematical concept and The Doctor's description was spot on!
Don't worry abour Harold Saxon, he is supposed to be a mystery at this point.
Hahahah, I feel like with everyone saying you're about to get the best of Doctor Who in next episodes, it's as if we're gonna fall in a pit of "meh" after this season, and nothing be quite as good, so let me add to the conversation that while I adore this season very very very much, some of my favourite doctor who writing is far off from these episodes. I don't wanna say people are wrong at all; I hope you experience much of doctor who to come as "the best". That feeling of doctor Who episodes pulling off to emotionally drain us as if we lived it, is just great. (Though next episode can be a tough watch for some obvious reason; You'd know what I mean if you watched UgoWatch's reaction video last week) But! I hope I add to some excitement build-up for things far ahead in the series, there's more brilliant writing than this season alone!
13:52 the woman here also plays Cindy in Eastenders. Vastly different personalities haha
I will say theres definite value in watching 'just the first' episode of Torchwood before the end of S3. It introduces some concepts, just saying that.
I've watched 9th 10th and 11th Doctors series several times but for some reason I have no memory of this episode 😮
Really really forgettable
@mranima748 Chinballs is at his best when you can forget what you've just watched, and at his worst when you absolutely can't.
I always felt that this episode was a bit harsh on the Captain. She harmed the sun but it was a lifeform so outside their frame of reference that there would have been no way for them to expect to find it. I dunno, i love the format of the episode, Burn with me is still something my brother and i say to each other but the core message seems off. Like if they'd harvested a bunch of space whales or something then it would make sense, saving money by harming life is clearly bad. But this would be like if one day you filled up your car with petrol and a bunch of people tried to kill before explaining that "don't you know, this is Alive Gasoline you monster". Just always bugged me.
It has to be noted.
Douglas Adams used to be a writer on the classic series of Doctor Who. He penned three episodes in Tom Baker's era (although, the episode "Shada" was never completed and broadcast, due to industrial action, but there are clips from it which were re-used for a multi-Doctor special later), and was a script editor for Doctor Who between 1978-79.
So it's appropriate to be giving Douglas Adams the nod with "42", as he was part of the Doctor Who family.
21:50 - Technically there is such a thing as solar wind, but it's not this XD
It might be, but only if he was scaled to the size of a small planet.
Torchwood has a much different feel than Doctor Who. It is quite a bit darker and bleak. Wasn't really my cup of tea but I'll watch it anytime just to see Eve Myles. She is fantastic in it.
ITS WHOOOOO TIME! my fave time of the week!
You HAD to do the "Hey Mickey" song. It was demanded of the moment.😆
In my humble, clear sailing for the rest of series 3. All great episodes. You're gonna be on the edge. Can't wait to watch them with you.
I literally shrieked when your computer couldn't do the effect anymore! XD
If you love space, you’ve really got to watch For all Mankind.
I'm sure this has already been brought up many times before and I know she won't read any of these comments for months from now, but comment moderators: Please pass on that she should really take a pause on Doctor Who before Series 3, 3-part finale, watch all of Torchwood Season 1, and then resume Doctor Who Series 3 finale, etc. But because these were recorded weeks ago, it may already be too late. #timeywimey
She said in the video that she isn't planning on watching Torchwood any time soon.
I loved this one for various reasons. The phone call from the pod was devastating. I also loved seeing the Doctor turn on Martha, but trying desperately to fight it. Also, you rarely ever see him terrified of anything, not something happening to him, directly. Lastly, I loved seeing the woman recording the call, knowing what happens later... 2 of my all-time favorite linked episode series... the other has a few of the same characters...
Well, Harold Saxon is just this guy, you know? Also, just for fun, 42 is an unhappy number, which just goes to show, even when you know the ultimate answer to life, the universe, and everything, it's not going to make you happy.
Life. Don't talk to be about life.
The episode was exactly 42 minutes long, excluding the opening and closing credits.
When this first aired it wasn't my favourite by a long way- but rewatching it a few times, I now don't know why I didn't warm to it (no pun intended) first time round
33:40 SPOILERS
Shout outs to best boy Rory and 11 playing wingman for him :)
I would die for that man.
Chris Chibnall would later become the showrunner for Doctor Who during the 13th Doctor/Jodie Whittaker era, stepping down when Whittaker left the show, with Russell T Davies returning to become the current showrunner once again. This was the first episode of Doctor Who he wrote
He would also work with David Tennant years later on the crime drama "Broadchurch" and its US remake "Gracepoint"
12:44 "At least they weren't black. That was scary."
Add it to the out-of-context compilation!
This video's just made me realise everytime I've read "Chibnall" in my head I've said "Chinball"...
Chris Chibnall also wrote the Tv show Broadchurch with David Tennant and Olivia Coleman
Gravitational pull of the sun would attract gases and particles nearby, and as it moves around the ship it would look like wind
Yes, a big win for Martha and just some fun. I love the idea.
This episode happens in real time. The 42 minutes of the episode are the actual minutes the countdown is happening….
TV on the TARDIS. Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Classic Who watchers know.
34:20 your future self will be hearing that song again...
I never knew Chibnall wrote this episode. I don't know what everybody's specific critiques are about this episode, but it was definitely foreshadowing his run.
David Tennant is my second favorite Doctor. He really is excellent in the role.
After Tom Baker (4th Doctor, but that's a hard act to follow. Also the actor to have played the Doctor for the longest period (1974 to 1981). And he was the first Doctor I saw on TV.
My third favorite is yet to come.
This was probably the only time he's ever prematurely (tried to) tell someone about regeneration. He was *that* scared and unsure of what would happen in that stasis chamber.
He should probably take the time to tell people about this sooner.
Without any spoilers, just refresher on tidbits you might have forgotten from previous episodes:
All you're meant to know at this point is that he's a BIG deal, it's expected in-world that anyone who hears his name will know who he is, even if we are clueless. He had something to do with the Lazarus project, though it's not said explicitly what his involvement was. And he warns Martha's mom against The doctor.
Wibbly Wobbly Timey Whimey... It's coming lol
You may have already been informed but there is a scene rhat was cut in the final episode of this series in the American versions due to copyright, it’s nothing major but it is fun
I think the infection was psychic, caught by staring at the sun, so it could leave the Doctor easily when everything was done and communicate the sun-scooping problem between hosts
John Lumic is the guy who created the cybermen in the parallel universe, not Harold Saxon lol
This is the first time I heard the Doctor say is scared.
well, I'm sure at 34:09 everyone gasped and rushed to write a comment but then they heard the sexy voice of " someone" saying "Spoilers" and didn't write anything 😂😂
I have a feeling that she will love that villain when we get there.
@highlander31527 don't we all? 😍😍
I guess it's good she quit reading the comments since it clearly didn't stop this.
@@HuntingViolets Stop gatekeeping and go touch grass. There's nothing in any of our comments that are spoilery.
Seriously, you Karens need to find a life. A real one, with family, and kids, not 27 cats and box wine.
@@highlander31527 Very amusing.
Such a good choice to not get bogged down in Torchwood
"Episode X of season three, here we go... Allons-y!"
I think if you don't count the outro it's pretty close to 42 minutes to be honest.
But anyway, It's so good to see Martha being so properly realized as a companion in the eyes of the Doctor in this episode. A really good one, and I'm so excited to see your upcoming reactions!
Ah yes, another episode where Martha's amazing and figures out the solution to the issue. Plus, all the banging soundtrack music in the background!
It's used in other episodes but for whatever reason, this is the episode I associate with All The Strange Strange Creatures, arguably the best piece of score in the entire show.
34:09 guys I think she knows something
The rest of the season is the second best run of episodes in the whole show :D
5:31 a double take to check which finger that was
This is how I learned about happy numbers! 😄
"And then I wander off in space
'Cause there is no better place
And I target all my thoughts
And I try not to get caught" - Ric Ocasek (2005)
And can I just say it's heartbreaking that you're not reading the comments anymore. And even more heartbreaking that some people want to spoil some episodes. So much to discuss without ruining any future episodes.
Not a spoiler, but get ready for your Doctor Who videos to start getting much higher view counts
Since you are ahead from us here; 8 & 9 are single story, 10 is a stand alone & 11,12 & 13 are also a single story. I will leave it here for 'No Spoilers.'
Trivia; This episode ostensibly (though not quite) takes place in real time, a technique made famous by 24 (2001). The average running time of a Doctor Who episode also happens to be about 42 minutes. It was suggested that the story would be set in the same era as The Impossible Planet (2006)/The Satan Pit (2006), revisiting Zachary Cross Flane and Ida Scott, as well as the Ood, although this did not survive to the drafting stage. This episode takes place in the 42nd century. Great reaction as always & dying for the next one.