I bought the Doyle last week (posted a tool haul video on my channel). Like what see with them, over the Stanley, Hart and others. The big thing for me, the Stanley and Hart, are 3 or more pieces(not including the button). The Knipex and Doyle are 2 pieces. I am a bit surprised by the Hart though. I may pick them up for the junkyard box.
Love my Knipex...🏁 But, I do have a set of Bahco that I grab alot.. they have a button on the side and slide open.. really nice set f for not alot of money...
I have the Knipex Cobra pliers I have the complete set of the cobra pliers and I love them they are amazing never used the Doyle or the hart I have a few of the older channel locks as well
I am posting this as a reply because it is just a message for you. I am not trying to be rude or negative in any way, just letting you know that the other pliers cannot be "more smoother" but they can be "more smooth" or they can be "smoother" - I am just letting you know because I liked this video and I appreciate the work it takes to make a video. If I didn't like the video I wouldn't have taken the time to write this. Using the words properly will add credibility to your review. Keep up the good work! Cheers!
I was about to buy those Doyle pliers, but I didn't I figured the location of the button was pointless to me, but I do own the other Doyle pliers, I really like them and their handles are very comfortable I'm still tempted to buy the 20" pliers xD.
I’ve tried all 4 of those pliers and I’d have to say that the hart pair are my every day pocket pliers. I’m an industrial maintenance tech. Knipex have always been the go to, but I’ve been carrying the Harts for a couple months now and I’m very impressed. Their wire strippers are very nice as well.
The Hart cobra pliers been great for me, been using them now for over two years and had to replace them once. After almost daily use the teeth started to dull a bit to where I couldn't get a solid hold. Instead of throwing them out I went back to My Local Walmart and spoke with customer service, they exchange the old pliers for a new one with no questions or a manager approval, and without a receipt.
Thanks man. I just buy them my old ones wear out and I checkout video after I buy and unwrap. Just got some 12" Doyle's for my home plumbing needs. I haven't even unwrapped them yet. But my old channel locks failed at the joints got too sloppy and slipping. Looks like the Doyal and they might work just fine for my application. Great job on the interview of the pliers keep up the good work.🤓😎🇺🇲
Refreshingly uber honest review, thanks! After looking at all the various modular toolbox systems (to my surprise) I also went with Hart... they are a bit smaller and made by Keeter (Israel). Also bought a Hart hammer for my son... I'm using it more than my Eastwings... About to drop some $$ on Knipex and Kleins, but I may just try out the Hart's instead!
I've had a pair of Klein wire crimpers for 16 years now and they've been great. I agree with you about the plastic dipped handles, they will split and dry out over time. If you're a diesel tech those dipped handles can be useless once you get some fuel on them. But the fuel will clean them up well haha
You can use a 20% on doyle, I had a 12in or 10in channel lock (Doyle) left it out side abused it, got a little rusty. The rubber handle was torn. Took it in got a free new one definitely a great warranty
I've had the Knipex for about 10 years and the Channellocks for 2-3 years - got the 2-pack with the 10" and the 12" around Christmas for a deal. The Knipex don't show any wear of the teeth, keeping in mind that I'm not a heavy duty user, but the Channellocks do. For the money can't really complain. Interesting to hear about the Hart and the Doyle.
Hart is a TTI company ( parent company of Milwaukee, Ryobi, AEG/Ridgid powertools, Hart ) HQ in Hong Kong. As an electrician I don’t deal with frozen fasteners as a mechanic does “Channellock” type pliers mostly used on compression fittings. I use a Ridgid pipe wrench for conduit. I do like the Doyle screwdrivers, And diagonal cutters. Haven’t used their pump pliers though my Channellocks do what I ask them.
I'm cheap. I'll admit it. I've drooled over getting a pair of Knipex for years but couldn't bring myself to spend $50+ on a pair of pliers. So I picked up the "10 inch Harts" 2 or 3 months ago on an impulse buy. They are my first "Knipex style" pliers I ever used. After using them, I thought they were really good also. I even remember thinking "Wow, these $13 pliers are great, I can't imagine how much better the $50 Knipex could be, they must be amazing!" I'm glad you put this video out. I probably would of talked myself into ordering a pair of Knipex eventually. But like I said, I'm cheap, and I would of been let down when I discovered Knipex are NOT 5X better than the Hart's even though they cost 5X more... I think I'll stick with the Harts until they are worn out.. Thanks, great review. I think you saved me 50 bucks...
I'm a big time channellock junkie. love made in usa tools! I own the GL10 and GL12....sorry to say I agree. they don't fit as well as other pliers for my trade. I usually grab my 430s they always fit just right. maybe one day I'll step up and try the German stuff. I bet it's all high quality
Love these comparative videos - before I buy something. For a 10", Knipex quality shines through, but for 8" I would recommend the much less expensive Irwin brand.
I have tried and own about every single pair of"water pump pliers" being a plumber, bahco, channellock, Klein, Klein(nws rebrand) fell, felo(nws rebrand), doyle, knipex, nws, ridgid, rothenberger, wiha,gedore,stahlwille, hazet, etc...I literally own them all and knipex is the best, gedore is extremely close 2nd they are very close, then they fall further away from those two
I carry the small knipex but the Irwin medium size is what I use most. They are the best for hose clamps and anything you need a wide jaw for. Never tried the Doyle or the hart but I like flat jaws for pliers like that for most of the plastic stuff I have to work with
I agree with ya about the country of origin. Sometimes USA made is great, sometimes its junk. Quality and customer service, is ultimately the determining factor in my purchases.
When it comes to the economy security and self sustainability of your country, yeah country origin matters. If the world stops using the US dollar and refuses to trade with the USA like the world is doing with Russia currently, with us not manufacturing any of our own products on a mass scale of quality and quantity, enough for the entire country to purchase and be happy with and having everything you buy, use, need and rely on made/shipped from other countrys, well.... I don't know what to say other than your entire country will collapse. You can't even have a functioning society anymore, because you aren't producing enough of the product used to keep the system moving and growing, the shelves will be completely empty once everything is limited to just American Made. This is why it's important. Yes it's fine right now currently because we are functional with the world when I comes to trade, but for setting up for the future when we do need to be self sustaining which will come with the collapse of the US Petrodollar, it's pretty important to buy American made to push more for American made products to created making it cheaper and more abundant for everyone. Sorry for the long rant, it's just people don't see why having American made products is essential and necessary for a country to function. It's the main pillars of a country and it's Economy. You want the country to flourish with world trade? Push American made. You want us to stop on our own when its time to do so? Push American Made.
Obviously, we owe Knipex thanks for raising the standard, and their design is key for me. I tried Channellock (made in USA) but they remain bulky and fall short on ingenuity. The slight angle of the "mouth" is so key. Notice how the others point up a few degrees more? It's such a big difference, once you know it's possible, and they fit nicer in pouch pockets and side pockets. My reason for looking to something else, though many Knipex die-hards swear by their strength, is that the teeth on all of mine have pretty much worn down over the years. They are a little too pricey, considering the up and comers. One last note on the O.G. is that the wide mouth of the Knipex can reach up to 2" aluminum and inch and a half rigid, which is absolutely amazing.
Im a plumbing contractor We use channel Locks all day every day I won’t hardly walk into a job with out a set in my back pocket I feel naked lol . There are some nice pliers out there I wonder if Klein makes a plier in that style .
I did an overview of walmart tools about a year ago. You'll probably be surprised how many usa made tools they have. Highly recommend the hyper tough usa made red handle pry bars. Same as the craftsman ones everyone loves
The Knipex are super hard, so the teeth will not wear down as quickly. But you can break them. More brittle than the Channellocks. I mailed mine in and got a replacement in like a week. That was years ago. I’d bet they are even faster now. Some tool trucks will warranty them as well. I should mention I sheared the end off tying to grip the stubby remains of a grade 8 bolt that was rust welded in place. Could have even been a defect maybe. That’s what they said; they said it shouldn’t have happened and it hasn’t happened since. I think they gave me a shipping label to send them in.
I have a couple doyle pliers and they’re surprisingly good but I’d definitely go with knipex for another $5. Saying that before the review though. The husky 10 & 12 set I got as a gift aren’t very smooth but I don’t need them much so I’ll stick with them for now Edit if I needed some I might get the hart set and if they break screw it.
I have a pair of knipex clone I bought off amazon for like 12$ they have actually been very durable and work very well so far. I think they were called T-Mal but so far so good.
I have all except the Hart. The tool snob in me wants to say that the Knipex wins hands down. But they don't. They do win, but only by a hair's width over the Doyle. The Channellocks are a great value, too. I used them for years (and still do from time to time).
“Kneepex“ (knee) with a pronounced k would be the right pronunciation. But I as a German also say it with a short I because that's how it's written. (Also it sounds better) So you are doing everything right in my opinion ;) Fun fact: knee and (ger) Knie mean the same and Knipex should be written Kniepex for how the manufacturer pronounces it.
I still prefer the Channellock traditional straight jaw pliers to the Knipex for some things, but for the Cobra style, $26 isn’t that much money. For anyone, DIY or Pro, they’re worth it. Though if I could have one pair, it would be the 12”, which are in the $30 something range. And I’d go Cobra over Alligator all day long. Barely any more money.
Two pack button groove pliers. Lowe’s. Irwin $20. Buy em individual there different price but I use push button groove pliers all day, fir the price Irwin. I lose em throughout the year so knipex or anything with a snap on price rage ain’t worth it to me. If wal mart or hft was cheaper I’d buy those. Thx!!!
If you think about the button size from a material point of view, the Knipex is leagues over the competition. The larger holes in the competition lead to a smaller section of material, which leads to an overall weaker material.
I can't justify spending 100 dollars for a single pliers. These days alot of harbor freight tools are just as good as all the fancy German tools. I still got cheap 10 dollar pliers from Lowes that i bought 10 years ago and are just as good as the day i bought them.
Thanks Antonio I meant to email you back and tell you that I talked to Harbor Freight and also wanted to tell you that you are a good guy and a stand up man I appreciate that about you. Almost nobody would have stuck up for me the way you did and told them that you was mad for how they did me. I got your back brother as well believe that!
@@RedemptionGarage i appreciate that bro just didn't like how all of it went down and I didn't like how I was being treated either thanks for the kind words bro and email me when ya got time no big deal
I havent, I got Cornwell, sorry brother.. Hey, I just bought the 48x96 trayler from HF.. Man if you need a strong utility trayler, HF.. has for a very limited time two..I do believe they are clearincing out, they arent easy to find, I got the 1700lb one vs the 1300lb, Ive had a hard time finding mine locally, I had to go 200miles out of my area.. Thay arent bad priced for a bolt-your self kit, than Home Depot or some local places, HD.. Has a 5ft x 8ft @ 1500lbs, completely welded an mesh floor on sale for around 7bills as HF..was 4bills, findin the spair tire isnt easy to find as well..at least the 12" with rim + tire, HF.. In my area doesnt plan to get any an the manager said they are liquadating them, The trayler is heavy duty for its size but the directions arent perfect, the traylor is also foldable but you have to remove 6 bolts that are kinda a hassel to get to an put on, also the casters they supply to fold up and store away are tiny I can see gettin in the way when your using it, tho it only took me the entire day to assemble, you wonder "did, the disinger smoke a big blunt (gonga), making it (?)".. the cross frame in the instructions were backwords, as the v-shape neck had slots for the front frame an three holes as the other side had six holes but the instructions shows the rest of the support frame bars having the three hole sides facin the sky, witch, once you start puttin them on the six holes should be facing the sky, to put your decking on, specailly if your gonna cut your wood to 4ft x 4ft for the top an bottom halfs to fold, also you have bolt heads sticking out, unless you cut them out or countersink holes for them and cut for the outer frame your gonna have a uneven deck lol., Dont get me wrong is not a bad traylor and it will serve its purpus, they could of done a bit better on it, IMO and the paint job wasnt bad but Id recomend using a undercoat spray, just to add a bit of protection and possably add a slightly stronger axle an spring setup down the road to handle a 13 or 14inch tire an have someone build you full wheel-wells for it, as the 12s will only allow you to travel a max of 60mph on roads, Id be careful going on highways or freeways doin 65mph or higher, blowing out a tire or both..opPs
The knipex I've used and channellock for the price difference between them and Doyle go with knipex they bulit a great reputation for the price the Hart from Wal-Mart if wanting to save a buck at the price you got nothing to lose
Just my 2 cents is largely depending on applications you’re work on. I’ve work many applications where the Knipex brand is boss however if I’m doing electrical work my hands are too full to be setting that pin. To that point I’ll take Channellock all day long.
I have all Milwaukee power tools. Their hand tools however imo = junk because you can buy much better tools for the same price and are atleast made in Taiwan/USA compared to Milwaukees China made hand tools.
@@doylee469 Name which ones are made in Taiwan besides their ratchet and box wrenches? All of their long nose, needle nose, water pump pliers etc are made in China...
A quality tool can be produced anywhere if the price is right. If a ratchet needs to be made for under $4, the production costs would be lower in China compared to the USA which would allow for some higher grades of metal to be used. This doesn't imply that Chinese tools are superior rather, China offers a more competitive environment for manufacturing the lowest possible price tools. Cheaper doesn't always mean inferior, products made in the USA are considered higher quality because the manufacturers have already accepted the fact production costs will be higher so there's less pressure to minimize expenses to begin with. I think the China can make good products, but I don't think people buy Chinese for quality, it's cost cutting, folks are less willing to pay a premium for higher quality parts made in China due to the stigma of everything originating from China being made for the lowest possible price. I believe as you said Milwaukee is a good example of this, the brands reputation for quality surpasses the fact it was manufactured in China. People trust the brand for it's quality, they know the brand, they have history with the brand. However we are currently moving into a world where brands are no longer a thing, and one decides they will use "made in" to determine quality. Think about Amazon for example, all the products on the site, people haven't heard of 99.99995% of the brands listed, they buy by price/"made in" and nothing more since they don't know or trust the brand. This makes it hard to sell higher quality tools from China even though for the right price they can be made to the same level of quality. I personally like the Doyles, I had a hard time justifying the 2x cost of the Knipex though price was a factor for me, I try to avoid the absolute cheapest option and buy mid grade quality.
Hey i bought a pair of Klein pump pliers from home depot. Paid around $30 for them. They work great,thin head and grip good. They say made in Germany. I would like to know are they knipex knockoffs? Or maybe another German manufacturer
Some of the Klein's are actually contracted out to Knipex, so they probably are just that. Klein does that with many tools. I have a 1/4" Klein ratchet that was made by SK, even rebuilt it with a kit from SK
Maybe a dumb question but is there any real benefit to cobra head pliers over the old Channel Lock style. I've seen the cobra head but just figured they were some newer gimmick. I haven't tried them before maybe I'll have to.
Not a dumb question at all. But yes there is a huge difference they are sleeker, grip better, and will work better in tons of situations. Both have their place but definitely are worth having the cobra pliers.
The pliers or just the grips? If the pliers which ones? I remember they once had grips made in china and some of the screwdrivers but never heard of pliers being sent over.
@@BradsWorkbench some of the soft grip sets of pliers were made in China up until recently were they brought them back to the USA but the soft grips were not the only think made in China at that time the pliers were as well thats all I know about the channel locks not sure which models I only know that some that had china made soft grips the tools were also made over china for some you probably know way more then i do brad
As far as I know all the traditional Channellock ( the ones with the thin blue handles ) pliers are Made in USA. Any other tool fro Channelock is 99% offshore manufactured.
Screw Doyle spend like $10 more and get the tried and true German brand. You’ll thank yourself in the long run. Forget anything from Walmart tool aisle it’s all trash. Just my 3 cents.
I have a few knipex pliers.....they are not all that. The tips sheared off my side cutters, and the jaws of my mini bolt cutters deformed after cutting a few thin nails. Don’t believe the hype....they are just average
The jaws on the 8" Doyles only open about 1/4". I took them back. The 10" Doyles only open about a half inch, they are barely useable. I still like my Channellocks best, but I haven't tried Knipex.
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Has anyone tried these pliers? What do you think about them?
I bought the Doyle last week (posted a tool haul video on my channel). Like what see with them, over the Stanley, Hart and others. The big thing for me, the Stanley and Hart, are 3 or more pieces(not including the button). The Knipex and Doyle are 2 pieces.
I am a bit surprised by the Hart though. I may pick them up for the junkyard box.
Love my Knipex...🏁
But, I do have a set of Bahco that I grab alot.. they have a button on the side and slide open.. really nice set f for not alot of money...
I have the Knipex Cobra pliers I have the complete set of the cobra pliers and I love them they are amazing never used the Doyle or the hart I have a few of the older channel locks as well
I am posting this as a reply because it is just a message for you. I am not trying to be rude or negative in any way, just letting you know that the other pliers cannot be "more smoother" but they can be "more smooth" or they can be "smoother" - I am just letting you know because I liked this video and I appreciate the work it takes to make a video.
If I didn't like the video I wouldn't have taken the time to write this. Using the words properly will add credibility to your review. Keep up the good work! Cheers!
I was about to buy those Doyle pliers, but I didn't I figured the location of the button was pointless to me, but I do own the other Doyle pliers, I really like them and their handles are very comfortable I'm still tempted to buy the 20" pliers xD.
I’ve tried all 4 of those pliers and I’d have to say that the hart pair are my every day pocket pliers. I’m an industrial maintenance tech. Knipex have always been the go to, but I’ve been carrying the Harts for a couple months now and I’m very impressed. Their wire strippers are very nice as well.
You are a very reasonable honest reviewer who just likes a good tool. Appreciate the video. Just picked up a 12inch Doyle.
The Hart cobra pliers been great for me, been using them now for over two years and had to replace them once. After almost daily use the teeth started to dull a bit to where I couldn't get a solid hold. Instead of throwing them out I went back to My Local Walmart and spoke with customer service, they exchange the old pliers for a new one with no questions or a manager approval, and without a receipt.
Walmart hyper tough pry bars are made in the USA by Wilde, $20 for a 36" 5/8 shank
Thanks man. I just buy them my old ones wear out and I checkout video after I buy and unwrap. Just got some 12" Doyle's for my home plumbing needs. I haven't even unwrapped them yet. But my old channel locks failed at the joints got too sloppy and slipping. Looks like the Doyal and they might work just fine for my application. Great job on the interview of the pliers keep up the good work.🤓😎🇺🇲
Great topic....I have a pair of Doyle's and my main reason was I can run quickly to HF for the warranty. Cheers
You know damn rite!
Refreshingly uber honest review, thanks! After looking at all the various modular toolbox systems (to my surprise) I also went with Hart... they are a bit smaller and made by Keeter (Israel). Also bought a Hart hammer for my son... I'm using it more than my Eastwings... About to drop some $$ on Knipex and Kleins, but I may just try out the Hart's instead!
Never used a knipex, but I love the channellock grip locks. They hold a bite on a pipe without having to squeeze the handles
That’s right buddy. Lmao I’m scared to use Knipex don’t wanna change.
I have both and still prefer channel locks personally
Hey jack I love channel locks but my wife got me knipex cobra on Father’s Day. It’s a hard debate but I’m starting to like the knipex pliers
I've had a pair of Klein wire crimpers for 16 years now and they've been great. I agree with you about the plastic dipped handles, they will split and dry out over time. If you're a diesel tech those dipped handles can be useless once you get some fuel on them. But the fuel will clean them up well haha
You can use a 20% on doyle, I had a 12in or 10in channel lock (Doyle) left it out side abused it, got a little rusty. The rubber handle was torn. Took it in got a free new one definitely a great warranty
I've had the Knipex for about 10 years and the Channellocks for 2-3 years - got the 2-pack with the 10" and the 12" around Christmas for a deal. The Knipex don't show any wear of the teeth, keeping in mind that I'm not a heavy duty user, but the Channellocks do. For the money can't really complain. Interesting to hear about the Hart and the Doyle.
Hart is a TTI company ( parent company of Milwaukee, Ryobi, AEG/Ridgid powertools, Hart ) HQ in Hong Kong. As an electrician I don’t deal with frozen fasteners as a mechanic does “Channellock” type pliers mostly used on compression fittings. I use a Ridgid pipe wrench for conduit. I do like the Doyle screwdrivers, And diagonal cutters. Haven’t used their pump pliers though my Channellocks do what I ask them.
I'm cheap. I'll admit it. I've drooled over getting a pair of Knipex for years but couldn't bring myself to spend $50+ on a pair of pliers. So I picked up the "10 inch Harts" 2 or 3 months ago on an impulse buy. They are my first "Knipex style" pliers I ever used. After using them, I thought they were really good also. I even remember thinking "Wow, these $13 pliers are great, I can't imagine how much better the $50 Knipex could be, they must be amazing!" I'm glad you put this video out. I probably would of talked myself into ordering a pair of Knipex eventually. But like I said, I'm cheap, and I would of been let down when I discovered Knipex are NOT 5X better than the Hart's even though they cost 5X more... I think I'll stick with the Harts until they are worn out.. Thanks, great review. I think you saved me 50 bucks...
Great video. Very informative for anyone looking for a new pair of water pump pliers.
I'm a big time channellock junkie. love made in usa tools! I own the GL10 and GL12....sorry to say I agree. they don't fit as well as other pliers for my trade. I usually grab my 430s they always fit just right. maybe one day I'll step up and try the German stuff. I bet it's all high quality
Love these comparative videos - before I buy something.
For a 10", Knipex quality shines through, but for 8" I would recommend the much less expensive Irwin brand.
Beware the Irwin have much softer teeth
I have tried and own about every single pair of"water pump pliers" being a plumber, bahco, channellock, Klein, Klein(nws rebrand) fell, felo(nws rebrand), doyle, knipex, nws, ridgid, rothenberger, wiha,gedore,stahlwille, hazet, etc...I literally own them all and knipex is the best, gedore is extremely close 2nd they are very close, then they fall further away from those two
I carry the small knipex but the Irwin medium size is what I use most. They are the best for hose clamps and anything you need a wide jaw for. Never tried the Doyle or the hart but I like flat jaws for pliers like that for most of the plastic stuff I have to work with
I agree with ya about the country of origin. Sometimes USA made is great, sometimes its junk. Quality and customer service, is ultimately the determining factor in my purchases.
When it comes to the economy security and self sustainability of your country, yeah country origin matters.
If the world stops using the US dollar and refuses to trade with the USA like the world is doing with Russia currently, with us not manufacturing any of our own products on a mass scale of quality and quantity, enough for the entire country to purchase and be happy with and having everything you buy, use, need and rely on made/shipped from other countrys, well.... I don't know what to say other than your entire country will collapse. You can't even have a functioning society anymore, because you aren't producing enough of the product used to keep the system moving and growing, the shelves will be completely empty once everything is limited to just American Made.
This is why it's important.
Yes it's fine right now currently because we are functional with the world when I comes to trade, but for setting up for the future when we do need to be self sustaining which will come with the collapse of the US Petrodollar, it's pretty important to buy American made to push more for American made products to created making it cheaper and more abundant for everyone.
Sorry for the long rant, it's just people don't see why having American made products is essential and necessary for a country to function. It's the main pillars of a country and it's Economy. You want the country to flourish with world trade? Push American made. You want us to stop on our own when its time to do so? Push American Made.
Obviously, we owe Knipex thanks for raising the standard, and their design is key for me. I tried Channellock (made in USA) but they remain bulky and fall short on ingenuity. The slight angle of the "mouth" is so key. Notice how the others point up a few degrees more? It's such a big difference, once you know it's possible, and they fit nicer in pouch pockets and side pockets. My reason for looking to something else, though many Knipex die-hards swear by their strength, is that the teeth on all of mine have pretty much worn down over the years. They are a little too pricey, considering the up and comers. One last note on the O.G. is that the wide mouth of the Knipex can reach up to 2" aluminum and inch and a half rigid, which is absolutely amazing.
Im a plumbing contractor We use channel
Locks all day every day I won’t hardly walk into a job with out a set in my back pocket I feel naked lol . There are some nice pliers out there I wonder if Klein makes a plier in that style .
Klein klaws I have them yet their bit is not as good as the knipex.
I just spent almost $200.00 on Knipex pliers I bought the 12 inch Cobra’s the 10 inch Alligator’s the 7 inch Cobra’s and the 10 inch pliers wrench.
Knipex now, Knipex Tomorrow, Knipex FOREVER!!!!
For removing round/rounded fasteners the ChanelLock #410 is far and above the best. But they are a bit chunky
Your pronunciation is correct I live less than a mile from the German border ;)
I did an overview of walmart tools about a year ago. You'll probably be surprised how many usa made tools they have. Highly recommend the hyper tough usa made red handle pry bars. Same as the craftsman ones everyone loves
Yep, Wilde tools.
@@johnp556 yea, thats it! Couldnt remember that damn name. Thanks bud
The Knipex are super hard, so the teeth will not wear down as quickly. But you can break them. More brittle than the Channellocks. I mailed mine in and got a replacement in like a week. That was years ago. I’d bet they are even faster now. Some tool trucks will warranty them as well.
I should mention I sheared the end off tying to grip the stubby remains of a grade 8 bolt that was rust welded in place. Could have even been a defect maybe. That’s what they said; they said it shouldn’t have happened and it hasn’t happened since. I think they gave me a shipping label to send them in.
I hardly need to break out a pipe wrench using my cobra pliers. I use one as a break and the other as a backer. No problem with gas unions.
You can't go wrong with Knipex. I have several of them and go to them first.
I have a couple doyle pliers and they’re surprisingly good but I’d definitely go with knipex for another $5. Saying that before the review though. The husky 10 & 12 set I got as a gift aren’t very smooth but I don’t need them much so I’ll stick with them for now
Edit if I needed some I might get the hart set and if they break screw it.
The Hart pliers are pretty good for the non professional especially at $12
I don't care where a tool is made as long as it's good quality. I've seen USA made junk before.
Yeah like the McDonald's 😂 that's true junk food
And I've seen German made junk! That's what we do these dark days!
I have a pair of knipex clone I bought off amazon for like 12$ they have actually been very durable and work very well so far. I think they were called T-Mal but so far so good.
I have all except the Hart. The tool snob in me wants to say that the Knipex wins hands down. But they don't. They do win, but only by a hair's width over the Doyle. The Channellocks are a great value, too. I used them for years (and still do from time to time).
just bought the Hart pliers lineup, I like them so far
Tested my own 10 inch, the length was greatly exaggerated
Great video man.
“Kneepex“ (knee) with a pronounced k would be the right pronunciation. But I as a German also say it with a short I because that's how it's written. (Also it sounds better)
So you are doing everything right in my opinion ;)
Fun fact: knee and (ger) Knie mean the same and Knipex should be written Kniepex for how the manufacturer pronounces it.
Chanlleocks are 9.5 in length
"we're both wrong" haha i like that
I still prefer the Channellock traditional straight jaw pliers to the Knipex for some things, but for the Cobra style, $26 isn’t that much money. For anyone, DIY or Pro, they’re worth it. Though if I could have one pair, it would be the 12”, which are in the $30 something range.
And I’d go Cobra over Alligator all day long. Barely any more money.
One year later, the 10" have jumped to $36 and the 12"/ $48
Two pack button groove pliers. Lowe’s. Irwin
$20. Buy em individual there different price but I use push button groove pliers all day, fir the price Irwin. I lose em throughout the year so knipex or anything with a snap on price rage ain’t worth it to me. If wal mart or hft was cheaper I’d buy those. Thx!!!
Funny you mentioned loosing tools. It hurts a hell of a lot less to lose a $10-20 tool than a $30+ tool.
Hart is owned by TTI. Techtronic Industries Company Limited (TTI Group) owns the Milwaukee Electric Tool brand. Hart is a dark horse brand.
You pronounced it correctly!
FWIW you can use the standard 20% off coupon on the Doyle brand
The way he says "Doyles" makes me think they're junk LOL
Milwaukee tools and made in China. Great points.
alot of their hand tools are taiwan. but import is import to me...
If you think about the button size from a material point of view, the Knipex is leagues over the competition. The larger holes in the competition lead to a smaller section of material, which leads to an overall weaker material.
Great video and great advise and i like the way u explaying and talk thenk to u i can make my best desition to buy a tools gracias hermano
The other thing about water pump pliers is there usage is directional
He retighten the vice after using the hart, and use the doyle ,knipex, channellock.after tighting the vice.he skip the hart.21:05
The Knipex is a superior product but they'll all work for basic stuff
I swear by the Chanel locks. Used them and abused them. Not bad talking the other brands. But for the price I really like my Chanel locks
He’s gonna choose the hft every time. He’s paid by harbor freight ha ha
😂😂 how come you didn't delete this?
You're saying it correctly, there are no silent letters in the german language.
I can't justify spending 100 dollars for a single pliers. These days alot of harbor freight tools are just as good as all the fancy German tools. I still got cheap 10 dollar pliers from Lowes that i bought 10 years ago and are just as good as the day i bought them.
Great video Brian
Thanks Antonio I meant to email you back and tell you that I talked to Harbor Freight and also wanted to tell you that you are a good guy and a stand up man I appreciate that about you. Almost nobody would have stuck up for me the way you did and told them that you was mad for how they did me. I got your back brother as well believe that!
@@RedemptionGarage i appreciate that bro just didn't like how all of it went down and I didn't like how I was being treated either thanks for the kind words bro and email me when ya got time no big deal
I havent, I got Cornwell, sorry brother.. Hey, I just bought the 48x96 trayler from HF.. Man if you need a strong utility trayler, HF.. has for a very limited time two..I do believe they are clearincing out, they arent easy to find, I got the 1700lb one vs the 1300lb, Ive had a hard time finding mine locally, I had to go 200miles out of my area.. Thay arent bad priced for a bolt-your self kit, than Home Depot or some local places, HD.. Has a 5ft x 8ft @ 1500lbs, completely welded an mesh floor on sale for around 7bills as HF..was 4bills, findin the spair tire isnt easy to find as well..at least the 12" with rim + tire, HF.. In my area doesnt plan to get any an the manager said they are liquadating them, The trayler is heavy duty for its size but the directions arent perfect, the traylor is also foldable but you have to remove 6 bolts that are kinda a hassel to get to an put on, also the casters they supply to fold up and store away are tiny I can see gettin in the way when your using it, tho it only took me the entire day to assemble, you wonder "did, the disinger smoke a big blunt (gonga), making it (?)".. the cross frame in the instructions were backwords, as the v-shape neck had slots for the front frame an three holes as the other side had six holes but the instructions shows the rest of the support frame bars having the three hole sides facin the sky, witch, once you start puttin them on the six holes should be facing the sky, to put your decking on, specailly if your gonna cut your wood to 4ft x 4ft for the top an bottom halfs to fold, also you have bolt heads sticking out, unless you cut them out or countersink holes for them and cut for the outer frame your gonna have a uneven deck lol., Dont get me wrong is not a bad traylor and it will serve its purpus, they could of done a bit better on it, IMO and the paint job wasnt bad but Id recomend using a undercoat spray, just to add a bit of protection and possably add a slightly stronger axle an spring setup down the road to handle a 13 or 14inch tire an have someone build you full wheel-wells for it, as the 12s will only allow you to travel a max of 60mph on roads, Id be careful going on highways or freeways doin 65mph or higher, blowing out a tire or both..opPs
the way u rponounced it first is the way i pronounce it in german. native speaker over here.
I would be really curious how robo grip pliers compare to others. I have a set from craftsman that are from when they first released.
Those are awesome. Even if they don’t work that’s American history lol
Totally different tool. But I own a pair of robo grip and they're awesome
I literally ticked every time he said k-nipex lol
I gripped both the Hart and Doyle last weekend in the stores, hart was rock solid while the doyle flexed. Any 20% off should work for doyle.
the flex is good
I love my knipex pliers
My favorite pair of pliars are the ones I borrow from someone else toolbox then forget to put them back lol
The knipex I've used and channellock for the price difference between them and Doyle go with knipex they bulit a great reputation for the price the Hart from Wal-Mart if wanting to save a buck at the price you got nothing to lose
Just my 2 cents is largely depending on applications you’re work on. I’ve work many applications where the Knipex brand is boss however if I’m doing electrical work my hands are too full to be setting that pin. To that point I’ll take Channellock all day long.
Agreed, as a sparky I prefer the channellocks carry 3 on my bags at all times
Emery as an electrician all I use is knipex. Actually all the guys I work with only use Knipex.
Knipex are some gangster channel locks
I have all Milwaukee power tools. Their hand tools however imo = junk because you can buy much better tools for the same price and are atleast made in Taiwan/USA compared to Milwaukees China made hand tools.
Pssst, most milwaukee hand tools are produced in Taiwan. And they are great tools. Now you know!
@@doylee469 Name which ones are made in Taiwan besides their ratchet and box wrenches? All of their long nose, needle nose, water pump pliers etc are made in China...
@@doylee469 They're Craftsman level good. Far better out there.
How is it that you sound like you're from Pennsylvania AND Georgia at the same time?
Haha now that ya said that I hear that, but he’s prolly from DE or MD. But it goes in and out one way or the other.
Flag on his channel is Ohio
Kanipex should start making kanives
I kanow.
A quality tool can be produced anywhere if the price is right. If a ratchet needs to be made for under $4, the production costs would be lower in China compared to the USA which would allow for some higher grades of metal to be used. This doesn't imply that Chinese tools are superior rather, China offers a more competitive environment for manufacturing the lowest possible price tools.
Cheaper doesn't always mean inferior, products made in the USA are considered higher quality because the manufacturers have already accepted the fact production costs will be higher so there's less pressure to minimize expenses to begin with. I think the China can make good products, but I don't think people buy Chinese for quality, it's cost cutting, folks are less willing to pay a premium for higher quality parts made in China due to the stigma of everything originating from China being made for the lowest possible price.
I believe as you said Milwaukee is a good example of this, the brands reputation for quality surpasses the fact it was manufactured in China. People trust the brand for it's quality, they know the brand, they have history with the brand. However we are currently moving into a world where brands are no longer a thing, and one decides they will use "made in" to determine quality. Think about Amazon for example, all the products on the site, people haven't heard of 99.99995% of the brands listed, they buy by price/"made in" and nothing more since they don't know or trust the brand. This makes it hard to sell higher quality tools from China even though for the right price they can be made to the same level of quality.
I personally like the Doyles, I had a hard time justifying the 2x cost of the Knipex though price was a factor for me, I try to avoid the absolute cheapest option and buy mid grade quality.
26 bucks for the Knipex? Where did you buy them? I've never seen them for that price@
So Hart Pliers over all others.
Its actually ka ni pex i called there main office thats how they say it
Thank you lol
Guess I live in Ka noxville
@@RedemptionGarage @rockstarfan
no silent K in german
Hey i bought a pair of Klein pump pliers from home depot. Paid around $30 for them. They work great,thin head and grip good. They say made in Germany. I would like to know are they knipex knockoffs? Or maybe another German manufacturer
Some of the Klein's are actually contracted out to Knipex, so they probably are just that. Klein does that with many tools. I have a 1/4" Klein ratchet that was made by SK, even rebuilt it with a kit from SK
Those are made by NWS.
Maybe a dumb question but is there any real benefit to cobra head pliers over the old Channel Lock style. I've seen the cobra head but just figured they were some newer gimmick. I haven't tried them before maybe I'll have to.
Not a dumb question at all. But yes there is a huge difference they are sleeker, grip better, and will work better in tons of situations. Both have their place but definitely are worth having the cobra pliers.
Shiny tool, or grip. Good tool, or clean tool
Some of the channel lock pliers are also made in China and Taiwan now days only certain models and pliers though
The pliers or just the grips? If the pliers which ones? I remember they once had grips made in china and some of the screwdrivers but never heard of pliers being sent over.
@@BradsWorkbench some of the soft grip sets of pliers were made in China up until recently were they brought them back to the USA but the soft grips were not the only think made in China at that time the pliers were as well thats all I know about the channel locks not sure which models I only know that some that had china made soft grips the tools were also made over china for some you probably know way more then i do brad
As far as I know all the traditional Channellock ( the ones with the thin blue handles ) pliers are Made in USA. Any other tool fro Channelock is 99% offshore manufactured.
Knipex is the shit 🤩
Doyle and knippex cost a dollar per position
Screw Doyle spend like $10 more and get the tried and true German brand. You’ll thank yourself in the long run. Forget anything from Walmart tool aisle it’s all trash. Just my 3 cents.
Sorry tried and true are the Channel locks
Use wd40 to clean knipex handles thank me later
You’re missing the irwin groove pliers
you just have to watch their youtube video in german to get the pronunciation
My guy hating on my channel locks hard😂
Only brand I don't use are them farts....
I'm not using my Knipex as a hammer on a ladder... but my CL? ❤
I have a few knipex pliers.....they are not all that. The tips sheared off my side cutters, and the jaws of my mini bolt cutters deformed after cutting a few thin nails. Don’t believe the hype....they are just average
No, in Germany they pronounce it as you do, Kuh nip ex.
No, you're right. It's Kuh-nip-ex.
Love your vids. U seemed a little zoomed out and not bright today FYI ( talking vid quality or camera lighting quality FYI ) thx
I am not sure what the issue was but will try to figure it out before the next video thanks for letting me know brother.
you tightened the vise after the hart test so there is no way I can take this seriously.
Ima be biased for once ill never switch from usa chanellocks
Hahaha" were both wrong" so true
I’ve watched videos made by Knipex pronouncing it both ways. Very strange.
Knipex, wiha that's what's up
😎👍🏻
It really does mint compare knipex shits on the rest
Knipex is going for 37 now :(
The hart pliers are odd with the 3 piece design
More hand tool videos with strength test
Why the Doyle and Hart should did Milwaukee and Irwin are wiha are wera
The jaws on the 8" Doyles only open about 1/4". I took them back. The 10" Doyles only open about a half inch, they are barely useable. I still like my Channellocks best, but I haven't tried Knipex.
WTF!!??