Great vid, I like the fact it included a conversation with the owner, it's nice to hear the history of these older machines. It's a great looking tractor
+caseman D csd thank you for watching. I am always on the look out for J.I. Case. The first farm machine I ever took a ride in was a Case 1060 and the first tractor was a 2470 Traction King.
I never ran the 4890 but did a lot of work on a 2470 in the late 70's. It was in the flat level plains of eastern Colorado and western Kansas. Mostly sweeping but did pull one-ways with it, if I remember it could pull 3 - 15' footers if not set too deep. Not a hill in sight but the crab steering was handy as the one ways could pull the rear of the tractor to the one side. It ran hot and had to be watched.
Yes they can do that.... On mine the sensor goes bad and will go sideways. I had seen a construction crew had a few of the caseih 4694s and one rolled in the ditch pulling set of rubber tired packers.
Dad had 2470, 2670 and a 2870 back before he switched to mintill. In our flat ground the crab steer was only useful when hooking up to our 40 ft 3-point plows. I remember the routine was to check the engine fluids, then start the engine and grab the grease gun. Each wheel had steering and u-joint zerks, along with the TWO driveshafts. By the time you had greased everything the gun was ready for a new tube of grease and the engine pretty well warmed up. Then you got in and it felt like the earth was rolling under you, not like you were driving across it. Long ways up from the 730 Poppin' Johnny I started driving when I was 10.
This 4890 is a very good example of the tractor. I just filmed a nice 4894 working out in the field. Stay tuned to see that one here on Big Tractor Power.
Cool to see a Traction King with a three point and PTO, my dad grew up farming with MD's, Oliver 77's, and eventually a Case 900. I spent my childhood driving through central and western MN, the Case 4wds were pretty popular (not as popular as Steigers, about as common as Versatiles) but I've never seen one with a three point.
@@malcolmmeer9761 I'm not sure why I originally made that comment... I feel like Case 4 wheel steer tractors had 3pt more often than other 4WD's. They're cool tractors, awesome to hear from someone with five of them!
@@Motologist95 I also have a 1370. About 1960 my dad started me plowing using an 8n Ford with a 2 bottom plow. Then moved up to an Oliver 88. Which I still have. We have a Custom also. An actual tractor made in Shelbyville Indiana. It is two ton Dodge truck components.
You may be right, I looked up a few on RitchieBros around where I was seeing them and every one had no 3pt and a big fat PTO gearbox right there on the back. My mistake.
Very unusual machine,I guess Case didn't see much demand for the"crab steer"feature and stop making them. It would be super-cool if Case/IH were to build a"track version"with the"crab-steer"feature.HAHA!!.🚜
+4 gauge Case built crab steer 4wds from 1966 to 1995. The Case 2470 Traction King was the best selling tractor of 1976 in the large hp class. It was a popular design especially for dairy farms and hull side grain farms. When Case and Steiger merged in 1986 the company began to move toward articulated 4wds only because Steiger was #1 in 4wd sales. There were two crab steer Steigers built after the merger that replaced the Case 4894 and 4694. The crab steer Steigers were the 9240 and 9260.
bigtractorpower I have a neighboring farm down the road from me that has one of these and it is a 2470 by the way,in mint condition,they still use it for heavy farming operations. My question is this... What happened to Case in general?.Why did Case have to merge with International Harvester if Case was doing this well in sales?.
Case did not have to merge with International Harvester. Tennaco owned Case and they bought out IHC when IHC was about to declare Bankruptcy. They got it for pennies on the dollar. They bought the whole company for less than IHC spent to develop the Axial Flow combines. They merged the companies and became Case International Harvester. Discontinued the Red tractors that had just came out with 5088/5288, and 5488. A few 7288 and 7488 had been build and were sitting on the lot for shipment but Case crushed them. Less than a dozen had been shipped and were demoed at the Farm Progress show and 2 did get sold in Minnesota. They resold at a farm sale last year. Then when IHC customers would not buy White Case tractors - they painted them red. A couple of years later they came out with the Magnum's. The 1980's were hard on tractor companies - a lot of them went out of business. AC became Duetz Allis. Oliver - Cockshutt and Minneapolis Moline became White. Now Duetz Allis, White and Massey Ferguson are all the AGCO line. Ford tractor line was bought out my New Hollard, they were bought out by Fiat. Fiat finally bought out Case/IHC and Ford New Holland into one company but two separate lines of machinery but some common machines just different paint.
John Davidson IH also sold their lawn and garden tractor division back in about 1982 to MTD.(producers of Sears,K-pro,Ranch King,White,Cub Cadet etc...low end junk basically). I knew a few friends that still own these RED garden tractors and they were very bit as good as Kabota and John Deere at one time not too long ago...how the mighty have fallen.
4 gauge in 1969 CASE was building what would become the "70 series".. Tenneco had purchased something like 50 tractors so according to the rumor I had heard the CEO of JI CASE, said "why don't you just buy the company" so they did, and they carried the 70 series, then into the 90 series, and then the 94 series... during the 94 series in 1984 ih had went broke so Tenneco saw the opportunity to become a full line of farm equipment (CASE had dumped their combines and other implements in the early 70s) with the buying of ih
@@dustinclark3452 I said it "was an alternative," not; "the alternative." I saw more IH/Farmall, and Case, than anything else, in Grayson and Fannin Counties back then. Case seemed like it was the second most popular.
@@dustinclark3452 We had Twin Cities Ford Tractor west of Sherman. Case on 82W, and a Massey Ferguson dealer on 56W. East side of Gainesville had the only JD dealership, that I knew of, at the time. As far as 4WDs were concerned, I saw a lot of Steigers, a few IH and one place on the river bottoms east of Denison, that had, and still uses Versatile 4WDs. I've seen a CaseIH Steiger close to Ambrose, too. In Lamar Country, most people have CaseIh or Kubota. A lot of them have replaced their medium to small JD machines with Kubota. Day before yesterday, I saw a Fendt Black Beauty on a flatbed trailer in Reno, east of Paris.
never seen on of these before just looked and see it had linkage and pto never seen this on other 4wd tractors did any other brands arm the tractors with this the front steering is nice to use the electic 4 wheel steer is nice nothing like the cable in the early tractors pity case doesnt go back to make rigid frame tractors like this as FWA doesnt work for everyone
Have any other tractor manufacturers made a rigid frame 4wd and 4ws with that crab steer feature? One farmer to our south had one of those but the controls for the steering would goof up once in a while.
+Boyd W yes International did with the 4100, 4156, 4166 and 4186. These tractors were built from the 60’s until 1978. Claas builds a ridged frame today called the Xerion. Our most watch video on Big Tractor Power with over one million views features the Claas Xerion 5000.
Could be aftermarket air intake precleaner pipe. (Like Turbo II, but it blows the dust it separates into the exhaust flow) Most modern tractors have this as an option like Valtra which are used in peat industry ie.)
Ill bet the way it turs saves lots of where on them big tires seems like it turns better then articulating macheanery that crab would be nice with the plow
@@LordMuck It was built by Case under license in Brazil. They used it on the 2470 and 2670 there, as well as the 90 series. Due to import regulations, the engine was imported from Case and Scania by Waukesha. I worked for Case in that era.
Tom the main components for the 90 Series engine in the 4890 was built at Waukesha's factory (Scania design) - when I was there on the training courses we saw pics and film of them being built (11litre) The smaller model Cases (2670, 4690 etc) used a Case derived engine (8.3litre)
Ive been a case fan since the Axial Flow was released and the Steiger line was bought. But these rigid frame units with all wheel steer just look so ugly in my opinion.
+Utters Adventures productions I would like to film one. My neighbor farmed with one for a few years from 1979 to 1981 and traded it for a new Case 4690 in 1982.
Man, I love those old Case tractors. I used to have T-Shirts, belt buckles etc with those body styles!!
Very cool.
Great vid, I like the fact it included a conversation with the owner, it's nice to hear the history of these older machines. It's a great looking tractor
+AlhayezRC thank you for watching. BTP has a few other videos like this one from the show on the way.
thanks big tractor power showing some j.i. case tractors. hope you do some more. my dad has case 970 bought it new in 1975. and still using it today!!
+caseman D csd thank you for watching. I am always on the look out for J.I. Case. The first farm machine I ever took a ride in was a Case 1060 and the first tractor was a 2470 Traction King.
That's a cool find. With that short wheel base, it would seem that those are pretty maneuverable.
sweet video... i love this generation, we still use our 2590 and 970 case tractors and i will never let them go
+mnasty very cool. I like finding Case tractors.
We still use our 2290 and 770 case also... I especially like out 770 for hay rake work.
I have a 2590 and I love it !!!!
I never ran the 4890 but did a lot of work on a 2470 in the late 70's. It was in the flat level plains of eastern Colorado and western Kansas. Mostly sweeping but did pull one-ways with it, if I remember it could pull 3 - 15' footers if not set too deep. Not a hill in sight but the crab steering was handy as the one ways could pull the rear of the tractor to the one side. It ran hot and had to be watched.
Great story. The Case 2470 was the first tractor I ever took a ride in. Was yours a Desert Tan or a White 2470?
Sounds alot better then today tractor's nice beast.i grew up in Hart Michigan watching this tractor's working the fields
Yup that tractor is clean!! I used the crab steer on mine once... felt so wierd!!
I don't trust them. that crab steer can have a mind of it's own sometimes like when you're flying down a road
Yes they can do that.... On mine the sensor goes bad and will go sideways. I had seen a construction crew had a few of the caseih 4694s and one rolled in the ditch pulling set of rubber tired packers.
+Northern farmer ouch.
Dad had 2470, 2670 and a 2870 back before he switched to mintill. In our flat ground the crab steer was only useful when hooking up to our 40 ft 3-point plows.
I remember the routine was to check the engine fluids, then start the engine and grab the grease gun. Each wheel had steering and u-joint zerks, along with the TWO driveshafts. By the time you had greased everything the gun was ready for a new tube of grease and the engine pretty well warmed up.
Then you got in and it felt like the earth was rolling under you, not like you were driving across it.
Long ways up from the 730 Poppin' Johnny I started driving when I was 10.
Very cool history. Nice tractor line up. The first tractor I ever got to ride in was a 1977 Case 2470.
Nice Case. I like big tractors. thanks for sharing.👍
Case always designed things their own way . Love the old white colored tractors. That tractor is so well cared for
This 4890 is a very good example of the tractor. I just filmed a nice 4894 working out in the field. Stay tuned to see that one here on Big Tractor Power.
I subscribe to Heritage Iron magazine and this model is featured in the lasted issue.Very interesting read.They were built from 1979-1983
Very sharp looking & nice sounding old work horse. I've not seen one using the crab steering before, it's a neat feature. Stay safe.
+crslyrn thank you for watching.
He must store that tractor indoors to keep it so clean and no rust etc.. Very nice machine... Thanks...
Beautiful old tractor!
That is what I considered buying in the early 80's. I wanted a 3 pt. Hitch though...
I liked the style and power
I just made a video on the Case 2870. It is posted at th-cam.com/video/4xuuKPzw3zk/w-d-xo.html
Cool to see a Traction King with a three point and PTO, my dad grew up farming with MD's, Oliver 77's, and eventually a Case 900. I spent my childhood driving through central and western MN, the Case 4wds were pretty popular (not as popular as Steigers, about as common as Versatiles) but I've never seen one with a three point.
I have 2 2670 2 2870 and a 4490 all have three points I 2970 doesn't have pto
@@malcolmmeer9761 I'm not sure why I originally made that comment... I feel like Case 4 wheel steer tractors had 3pt more often than other 4WD's. They're cool tractors, awesome to hear from someone with five of them!
@@Motologist95 I also have a 1370. About 1960 my dad started me plowing using an 8n Ford with a 2 bottom plow. Then moved up to an Oliver 88. Which I still have. We have a Custom also. An actual tractor made in Shelbyville Indiana. It is two ton Dodge truck components.
The Cistom was built in the late 40s
Great channel, keep up the good work.
From Australia
I've seen one sitting in Wyalong NSW
I've used the crab on my Case tractors. Love my old guys.
Very cool.
Neat to see one at all, let alone with 3pt and PTO.
Yea 3 point hitch was rare to see
Northern farmer ..
Man I'm sure the ones I've seen had no PTO or 3pt but I could be wrong about the PTO. They were all around Northern Alberta.
You may be right, I looked up a few on RitchieBros around where I was seeing them and every one had no 3pt and a big fat PTO gearbox right there on the back. My mistake.
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Fabulous tractor, thanks for sharing
The 4890 was a popular 4wd. I have video of this same 4890 working in the field posted at th-cam.com/video/X8e9UhlfDhc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1wW5maqlQ46pBZ2d
It's like the distant ancestor to the modern day Claas Xerion. :)
You can tell Dave is a pretty nice gent. I would've like to have seen it working, but nice to see nonetheless.
+jtoddjb I hope to film a Case 4wd in the field at some point. It was great to get one on the Big Tractor Power channel.
Very unusual machine,I guess Case didn't see much demand for the"crab steer"feature and stop making them.
It would be super-cool if Case/IH were to build a"track version"with the"crab-steer"feature.HAHA!!.🚜
+4 gauge Case built crab steer 4wds from 1966 to 1995. The Case 2470 Traction King was the best selling tractor of 1976 in the large hp class. It was a popular design especially for dairy farms and hull side grain farms. When Case and Steiger merged in 1986 the company began to move toward articulated 4wds only because Steiger was #1 in 4wd sales. There were two crab steer Steigers built after the merger that replaced the Case 4894 and 4694. The crab steer Steigers were the 9240 and 9260.
bigtractorpower I have a neighboring farm down the road from me that has one of these and it is a 2470 by the way,in mint condition,they still use it for heavy farming operations.
My question is this...
What happened to Case in general?.Why did Case have to merge with International Harvester if Case was doing this well in sales?.
Case did not have to merge with International Harvester. Tennaco owned Case and they bought out IHC when IHC was about to declare Bankruptcy. They got it for pennies on the dollar. They bought the whole company for less than IHC spent to develop the Axial Flow combines. They merged the companies and became Case International Harvester. Discontinued the Red tractors that had just came out with 5088/5288, and 5488. A few 7288 and 7488 had been build and were sitting on the lot for shipment but Case crushed them. Less than a dozen had been shipped and were demoed at the Farm Progress show and 2 did get sold in Minnesota. They resold at a farm sale last year. Then when IHC customers would not buy White Case tractors - they painted them red. A couple of years later they came out with the Magnum's. The 1980's were hard on tractor companies - a lot of them went out of business. AC became Duetz Allis. Oliver - Cockshutt and Minneapolis Moline became White. Now Duetz Allis, White and Massey Ferguson are all the AGCO line. Ford tractor line was bought out my New Hollard, they were bought out by Fiat. Fiat finally bought out Case/IHC and Ford New Holland into one company but two separate lines of machinery but some common machines just different paint.
John Davidson IH also sold their lawn and garden tractor division back in about 1982 to MTD.(producers of Sears,K-pro,Ranch King,White,Cub Cadet etc...low end junk basically).
I knew a few friends that still own these RED garden tractors and they were very bit as good as Kabota and John Deere at one time not too long ago...how the mighty have fallen.
4 gauge in 1969 CASE was building what would become the "70 series".. Tenneco had purchased something like 50 tractors so according to the rumor I had heard the CEO of JI CASE, said "why don't you just buy the company" so they did, and they carried the 70 series, then into the 90 series, and then the 94 series... during the 94 series in 1984 ih had went broke so Tenneco saw the opportunity to become a full line of farm equipment (CASE had dumped their combines and other implements in the early 70s) with the buying of ih
One of my favorite tractors
The 4890 is a nice tractor. Here is the same tractor working on fall tillage th-cam.com/video/X8e9UhlfDhc/w-d-xo.html
Sharp looking and functional unit. No streamlining there.
Awesome tractor
Good Video!
+Sebastian Warth thank you. I have wanted to film a Traction King for many years. Hopefully I can catch one in the field soon.
my favorite tractor Case 4890
I didnt know they used Scania engines in tractors, or in the 80s in tractors.
It is great to have a 3 point hitch. And pto
It is a beauty!
Sounds like a workhorse. A lot of these I see don't have a 3pt on the back.
3pt was an option mainly for uk market.
Clean as a whistle!
Very well taken care of 4890.
I remember when Case was a popular alternative to John Deere here in North Texas, back in the 70's and 80's.
Not really most in the time frame ran Farmall and Ford I'll put money on my knowledge and exp over your lost bs
John Deere was far few in between except the passed downs and guys who had money
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I said it "was an alternative," not; "the alternative." I saw more IH/Farmall, and Case, than anything else, in Grayson and Fannin Counties back then. Case seemed like it was the second most popular.
@@jamesowen4938 it's all good I just remember the most common in that area was Ford for most but then again case was everywhere
@@dustinclark3452
We had Twin Cities Ford Tractor west of Sherman. Case on 82W, and a Massey Ferguson dealer on 56W. East side of Gainesville had the only JD dealership, that I knew of, at the time. As far as 4WDs were concerned, I saw a lot of Steigers, a few IH and one place on the river bottoms east of Denison, that had, and still uses Versatile 4WDs. I've seen a CaseIH Steiger close to Ambrose, too. In Lamar Country, most people have CaseIh or Kubota. A lot of them have replaced their medium to small JD machines with Kubota. Day before yesterday, I saw a Fendt Black Beauty on a flatbed trailer in Reno, east of Paris.
Wow nice vid, thx
+sorry sonnenschein thank you for watching.
never seen on of these before just looked and see it had linkage and pto never seen this on other 4wd tractors did any other brands arm the tractors with this the front steering is nice to use the electic 4 wheel steer is nice nothing like the cable in the early tractors pity case doesnt go back to make rigid frame tractors like this as FWA doesnt work for everyone
Have any other tractor manufacturers made a rigid frame 4wd and 4ws with that crab steer feature? One farmer to our south had one of those but the controls for the steering would goof up once in a while.
+Boyd W yes International did with the 4100, 4156, 4166 and 4186. These tractors were built from the 60’s until 1978. Claas builds a ridged frame today called the Xerion. Our most watch video on Big Tractor Power with over one million views features the Claas Xerion 5000.
But weren’t those IH 4100 series made by Case?
never know that case had a tractor of this size let alone it crab walks
+John Huntington Case Traction King 4wds were top sellers right up there with Steiger and Versatile in the 1970s.
This is the tractor I would buy today to have in my garage.
I cut my big boy teeth on one like this.
What a sound!
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What does this small black pipe (?) which is connected to the exhaust pipe? Or this is only some kind of support?
Could be aftermarket air intake precleaner pipe. (Like Turbo II, but it blows the dust it separates into the exhaust flow)
Most modern tractors have this as an option like Valtra which are used in peat industry ie.)
You'll know when the alternators going out if the crab steering goes awry.
Alternator charges the battery and runs some electrical, none of which runs the crab steer function. The variable valve body is hydraulic ran
The only electrical on that is a sensor for over steer
clean tractor. air work?
+bondoly66 I would guess the air works as he said they use it in the field.
Really nice Case
It is a great 4890
First tractor my dad ever had with AC was a 4890 when I was about 22. Lol
Very nice.
BADASS
I could have gotten one really cheap but l think there was a lot wrong with it
I always thought that the Case paint scheme was a real light beige or off white. That's what it looks like to me, anyway.
It was, until 1976.
Scandinavia engine sound mean can always tell by that exaust
Beautifull beast
Thank you for watching.
@@bigtractorpower i have question for you in your country are ursus?
Ill bet the way it turs saves lots of where on them big tires seems like it turns better then articulating macheanery that crab would be nice with the plow
i ran 4890- 2870 and 2 875 versatile case had a better cab and engine but 875 was a more reliable tractor
Did I hear him correctly in that it has a Scania engine, as in European Scania ? If that is the case ( pun intended ) then that is pretty cool.
+mcpheonixx yes it does have a Scania. The Case 2870, 4890 and 4894 used this engine. The 4994 used a 14.L Scania as well.
Its a Scania DESIGNED engine but it was actually built by Waukesha in Wisconsin.
@@LordMuck It was built by Case under license in Brazil. They used it on the 2470 and 2670 there, as well as the 90 series. Due to import regulations, the engine was imported from Case and Scania by Waukesha. I worked for Case in that era.
Tom the main components for the 90 Series engine in the 4890 was built at Waukesha's factory (Scania design) - when I was there on the training courses we saw pics and film of them being built (11litre)
The smaller model Cases (2670, 4690 etc) used a Case derived engine (8.3litre)
A peach.
is that a 1660 combine with it
I think it was an 1160.
Did Dave Berbaum have anything else there? They've got a decent collection of Case tractors.
+45Deere9500 there was a bunch of nice Case items there. He may have. There was a nice 2470, Golden Knight 1070 and a Stars and Stripes 1570.
45Deere9500 I know they had the 600 combine and several other machines
Thanks Jake!
Nice
Back when new that thing was a moose now 300hp pulls the wagon .it's better off being used when ever you can find a need
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Can walk right into row where you need and y they came with 3pt hitch would be pointless with out
Ive been a case fan since the Axial Flow was released and the Steiger line was bought. But these rigid frame units with all wheel steer just look so ugly in my opinion.
Have anyone ever seen a hi 4166 red farm version
+Utters Adventures productions I would like to film one. My neighbor farmed with one for a few years from 1979 to 1981 and traded it for a new Case 4690 in 1982.
We had one on our farm, I was 12 and I got to cut my teeth running the 4166.
drift
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Sounds mean
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