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- Greedon is the master of gambles in the Dark States casino...the best place for Zorga to play some games! How could the playful spiritualist resist that challange even if at the risk of turning into chocolate? Join and watch UwU
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Greedon Match up guides and tips:
Greedon is a complex MU for zorga, as it requires navigating very well the line between playing a sustained long game and choosing to put pressure while trying to inflict a 7th dmg or deck the oponent out.
To beat greedon we want to deal enough dmg for them to die, but most importantly, to deck out on the grind games that last longer. Not attacking is not an actual way to win. On the other hand, attacking too much will just give them the resources to put the most pressure on us with Incane or Gouman, they will heal a lot throught drive checks and we won't be able to heal. Follow these tips in order to be a little more favored:
- Start attacking: Greedon is extremely weak the 1st stages of the game. This means we can dissrupt him and make them reach midgame in not fully good conditions. Be smart about this and try to grasp fast if this will be a game where you can close with a fast Kill, or if it will be a game that will grind into lategame, to gauge the amount of dmg you wanna deal, and when. In the 1st game of the video, i realised the game was always going to deck out, so i used the turn 3 to farm cards and deny resources (this also will save me some cards). I had a lot of heals in deck so i always stood in healing range and tried to grind the long run. However, turn 4, i went down on dmg after healing and my position was good enough to push. In the end, them having ofensive OT made a diference. Is not the play was terrible, but probably i could have won by putting pressure there. The games will be very diferent from one another. We gotta be open to reading the particular circumnstances and take the better course fast.
-Stay on heal range: This may be a bit counterintuitive, but its better to take some dmg early on the game. This will enable your heals and deny the oponents. You will save cards and be able to guard more threatning vg attacks later. (I don't mean we should reach t3 at 3 dmg, but its fine taking 1 early vg swing, for exemple)
- Play arround Fuujo: Fuujo is a very broken card. They will kill your board if they put it into soul (take this into consideration and do not over commit board with cards you will need to activate later) and they will guard restrict your pgs. Try to fit the pgs properly so you can save your cards.
-Use bist ayatvas to farm orders: Every time Bist is used, we can consider it as if we have bypassed one of the guard restrictions. This allow use to grab an order to discard as pg fodder and just go ahead and play the pg as normal by putting another 5k or rpd into guard zone.
-Do not rush keel: Some games it will be happening smooth on t3, but often enough we might want to save on cb by not creating the marker. Some games will be won by using those 2-3 cbs to plus handsize with cow. It is very important to read the situation fast to see what kind of game this is going to be. This is the magic of midrange, if you can do this properly you will be rly strong. Seemingly, do not minus yourself on cards to call rpds or keels. Just let them reach the dropzone naturally by using them to guard.
- Calling cards to board is -1 to hand: greedon doesn t rly hit hard. Most of the attacks can be guarded by 2 cards most of the times. In many situations, the guard restrictions act just as if their attacks were 33ks or 38ks. If you keep in hand the right cards and slowly plus your board to work (While not losing random cards to fuujo) you will build naturally an interactive board that is not costful on handsize.
- handle the tempo:
Early: put pressure
Midgame: Decide between slowing the game down to farm or putting full pressure.
Lategame: Full pressure while grinding until they deck out.
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que buen duelo señor enmascarado zolga
good thing you put out this video. 4 greedons topped in the 2 most recent tourneys. I have never fought a greedon before but i kinda figured your best option is to stall until they deck out like you do with draconic overlord.
this video will help me fight this deck when i probably will face it in 2 weeks at bcs houston thanks for the content
I should probably start with specific MU guide content!
Against greedon its tricky, because you Have to push enough for them to lose decksize before they have all the defense in hand while also being weary of keeping your heals online and not giving them too much resources to outpace you. Its not just about not giving dmg, its about giving the dmg at the proper time
There is some tips in video description, just in case you wanna check it out :3
I like the insights on how to deal with greedon matchup. What do u guys think about zorga VS youthberk and zorga VS avantgarda. Been struggling to beat them in locals with best boi zorga 😔
Youth: before bt13 it should be doable. Remember you can use keel cost to retire the RPD oposing the marker, and then step over the rpd on the marker both rpds die). Then u use keel to intercept 1st youthberg attack so tempest cannot botdeck any of the 3 attackers.
Avantgarda: it should not be troublesome as long as you guard avantgarda t3 so they don't have a free restand. Past that point is about them not highrolling the vg swings too much. Also, rush them, they won't be able to respond to the aggro
You will get them very soon UwU
@@ZorgaVS I read Keel again, and wow. I can't believe i just realised that, because most zorga player I watch don't do that. It's good to learn as a beginner. Thanks man, hopefully Philander can carry zorga in set 13 and zorga doesn't fall-off too much.
@@erickgilbert7686 i don t think zorga will fall too much honestly. A lot of people is already running philander but even if we do not, the deck has a good position because can be aggresive and still can tank enough what the decks do
I might do a video about that, but bt13 is overrepresented with mid-late decks. This means the aggro ones have easier time topping. Midrange decks can contest those aggro decks like mygo or lianorn verywell, so i definetely think zorga has an spot on the meta
I didnt even know they had a greedon masque
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I don't understand... he put one card into the soul and then fetched a completely different card to the card he put in the soul?
he kinda cheated. You're meant to search deck for another Boshokku... even then if it was worded like that, he still cheated because he put one card into the soul and still didn't fetch the same copy of that card
instantly put off of watching videos, if you don't even address ruling like that..
The skill of the bird he searches for is "the name of this card is the name of any other desire devil" also, the skill of boshokku is "search for a copy of this card (this card, means boshokku)".
So, what the card does is: you put any card into soul, and find for boshokku, but the bird is also named boshokku. That is the correct way of using the card :3
@@Takos0415 This is a legal play. The card he searches is called "Desire Devil, Saasyou". This card has a continuous ability, in the deck, to be treated as the same card as any Desire Devil in your soul when your Vanguard's name is Greedon.
Bushiroad printed this skill for the card to be searched of Boshokku ride skill. Since Boshokku skill in the soul (the +5k) only works with the original Greedon named, they wanted to give a good target to fetch for Greedon Masques.
if you are still not convinced with this explanation, here is a video from the official vanguard channel (with a timestamp) where they play Greedon Masques and you can see them getting Saasyou out of Boshokku.
th-cam.com/video/eLN8S9jO13g/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MusR9Ln2eVDMDNxl&t=373
Hope this clears the misunderstanding :)