good thing you put out this video. 4 greedons topped in the 2 most recent tourneys. I have never fought a greedon before but i kinda figured your best option is to stall until they deck out like you do with draconic overlord.
I should probably start with specific MU guide content! Against greedon its tricky, because you Have to push enough for them to lose decksize before they have all the defense in hand while also being weary of keeping your heals online and not giving them too much resources to outpace you. Its not just about not giving dmg, its about giving the dmg at the proper time
I like the insights on how to deal with greedon matchup. What do u guys think about zorga VS youthberk and zorga VS avantgarda. Been struggling to beat them in locals with best boi zorga 😔
Youth: before bt13 it should be doable. Remember you can use keel cost to retire the RPD oposing the marker, and then step over the rpd on the marker both rpds die). Then u use keel to intercept 1st youthberg attack so tempest cannot botdeck any of the 3 attackers. Avantgarda: it should not be troublesome as long as you guard avantgarda t3 so they don't have a free restand. Past that point is about them not highrolling the vg swings too much. Also, rush them, they won't be able to respond to the aggro
@@ZorgaVS I read Keel again, and wow. I can't believe i just realised that, because most zorga player I watch don't do that. It's good to learn as a beginner. Thanks man, hopefully Philander can carry zorga in set 13 and zorga doesn't fall-off too much.
@@erickgilbert7686 i don t think zorga will fall too much honestly. A lot of people is already running philander but even if we do not, the deck has a good position because can be aggresive and still can tank enough what the decks do
I might do a video about that, but bt13 is overrepresented with mid-late decks. This means the aggro ones have easier time topping. Midrange decks can contest those aggro decks like mygo or lianorn verywell, so i definetely think zorga has an spot on the meta
he kinda cheated. You're meant to search deck for another Boshokku... even then if it was worded like that, he still cheated because he put one card into the soul and still didn't fetch the same copy of that card
The skill of the bird he searches for is "the name of this card is the name of any other desire devil" also, the skill of boshokku is "search for a copy of this card (this card, means boshokku)". So, what the card does is: you put any card into soul, and find for boshokku, but the bird is also named boshokku. That is the correct way of using the card :3
@@Takos0415 This is a legal play. The card he searches is called "Desire Devil, Saasyou". This card has a continuous ability, in the deck, to be treated as the same card as any Desire Devil in your soul when your Vanguard's name is Greedon. Bushiroad printed this skill for the card to be searched of Boshokku ride skill. Since Boshokku skill in the soul (the +5k) only works with the original Greedon named, they wanted to give a good target to fetch for Greedon Masques. if you are still not convinced with this explanation, here is a video from the official vanguard channel (with a timestamp) where they play Greedon Masques and you can see them getting Saasyou out of Boshokku. th-cam.com/video/eLN8S9jO13g/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MusR9Ln2eVDMDNxl&t=373 Hope this clears the misunderstanding :)
![Cardfight!! Vanguard OverDress: Zorga Masques (Stoicheia) VS Gandeeva (Dragon Empire) [D-BT10]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/dqxTNxiZQyw/mqdefault.jpg)
good thing you put out this video. 4 greedons topped in the 2 most recent tourneys. I have never fought a greedon before but i kinda figured your best option is to stall until they deck out like you do with draconic overlord.
this video will help me fight this deck when i probably will face it in 2 weeks at bcs houston thanks for the content
I should probably start with specific MU guide content!
Against greedon its tricky, because you Have to push enough for them to lose decksize before they have all the defense in hand while also being weary of keeping your heals online and not giving them too much resources to outpace you. Its not just about not giving dmg, its about giving the dmg at the proper time
There is some tips in video description, just in case you wanna check it out :3
I like the insights on how to deal with greedon matchup. What do u guys think about zorga VS youthberk and zorga VS avantgarda. Been struggling to beat them in locals with best boi zorga 😔
Youth: before bt13 it should be doable. Remember you can use keel cost to retire the RPD oposing the marker, and then step over the rpd on the marker both rpds die). Then u use keel to intercept 1st youthberg attack so tempest cannot botdeck any of the 3 attackers.
Avantgarda: it should not be troublesome as long as you guard avantgarda t3 so they don't have a free restand. Past that point is about them not highrolling the vg swings too much. Also, rush them, they won't be able to respond to the aggro
You will get them very soon UwU
@@ZorgaVS I read Keel again, and wow. I can't believe i just realised that, because most zorga player I watch don't do that. It's good to learn as a beginner. Thanks man, hopefully Philander can carry zorga in set 13 and zorga doesn't fall-off too much.
@@erickgilbert7686 i don t think zorga will fall too much honestly. A lot of people is already running philander but even if we do not, the deck has a good position because can be aggresive and still can tank enough what the decks do
I might do a video about that, but bt13 is overrepresented with mid-late decks. This means the aggro ones have easier time topping. Midrange decks can contest those aggro decks like mygo or lianorn verywell, so i definetely think zorga has an spot on the meta
que buen duelo señor enmascarado zolga
I didnt even know they had a greedon masque
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I don't understand... he put one card into the soul and then fetched a completely different card to the card he put in the soul?
he kinda cheated. You're meant to search deck for another Boshokku... even then if it was worded like that, he still cheated because he put one card into the soul and still didn't fetch the same copy of that card
instantly put off of watching videos, if you don't even address ruling like that..
The skill of the bird he searches for is "the name of this card is the name of any other desire devil" also, the skill of boshokku is "search for a copy of this card (this card, means boshokku)".
So, what the card does is: you put any card into soul, and find for boshokku, but the bird is also named boshokku. That is the correct way of using the card :3
@@Takos0415 This is a legal play. The card he searches is called "Desire Devil, Saasyou". This card has a continuous ability, in the deck, to be treated as the same card as any Desire Devil in your soul when your Vanguard's name is Greedon.
Bushiroad printed this skill for the card to be searched of Boshokku ride skill. Since Boshokku skill in the soul (the +5k) only works with the original Greedon named, they wanted to give a good target to fetch for Greedon Masques.
if you are still not convinced with this explanation, here is a video from the official vanguard channel (with a timestamp) where they play Greedon Masques and you can see them getting Saasyou out of Boshokku.
th-cam.com/video/eLN8S9jO13g/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MusR9Ln2eVDMDNxl&t=373
Hope this clears the misunderstanding :)