Ragnar Is Finally Getting Changed | Nerfs & Buffs Coming!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.พ. 2025
- A nuke dropped 17 hours ago and its effects can be felt everywhere across the Tacticus community. What changes could Ragnar get? How hard is it to balance him for different gamemodes? What other Characters may be getting changed? Think with me, Skitarius, for researching is praising the Omnissiah.
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TLDR, Ragnar changes have been kinda announced, one of my predictions was right- War Howl will now work only on Normal Melee Attacks. Doesn't change Guild Raids, makes a huge difference in TA. Have a nice day!
Folks, keep in mind, we are getting CHANGES, not getting Ragnar removed from the game!
He will be different, but it's not that he FOR SURE will be unusable. Trust the process, more info coming next week from Snowprint!
They can put in a 2 character ban for TA then.
What you're saying is pure copium bro.
They would need at least 2 reset stones for the nerf.
Aunshi, Jain Zar, Celestine would be totally unusable above G1 on any other game mode which sucks because I have them all to D3.
The reason why is to lessen the time I spend on arenas.
And I'm pretty sure SP is doing this to make players spend money on upcoming characters and make them enticing.
@@john22269 I feel like changing Ragnar to Gulgortz approach wouldn't destroy him in GR while fixing him in TA, simple change that shakes up his gameplay pattern, don't see copium here
But if he is straight up deleted from the game in terms of viability, I'll agree with you that I was on copium
The demands for nerfs to ragnar and rho and a buff to neurothrope sounded like 100% copium from a salty neurothrope GR perspective.
@JohnDoe-xz4xc Stone 1 Neurothrope, Diamond 3 Rho and Diamond 3 Ragnar, try again friend
The problem with a reset stone is that it’s doesn’t allow to properly transfer the progress since it gives back resources which are faction specific. So if you reset Ragnar you’ll get a bunch of space wolves resources and I doubt anyone would want to push other SW without Ragnar. If there was an option to upgrade rank directly with blackstone and reset stone would give an equivalent BS amount, it would be more flexible.
So Ragnar works well in GR, a mode that is constant, has a leaderboard, and is a huge draw for a guild within game - but because of a crap game mode that most people hate anyway, its getting changed. I think given the choice of no Ragnar or no TA - we'd likely never see TA again. Because it's terrible. People aren't unhappy about the nerf, they're unhappy with the reasoning
NO TA!! …But keep faction TA
bro i fucking pushed all my eldars to G1 to get space wolves elite nodes and spent countless guild credits. fuck the reset stone lol
🤝
Eldy helps everywhere. Calandis is great on Guild war, arena and LRE support if she gets high enough. Aethana is good for some Guild raids. Maugan ra was replaced by Ragnar so he might see play again or at least be a stop gap for some bosses (i still use d3 maugan against L5 Silent king and Ghaz just fine for 300k+ damage when I cant use my neuro squad)Jain is the "worst" of the lot but great in guild war for her infiltrate
Plus you have a while campagin of nodes open. G1 is not a big investment and youre in a good place dude!
@@tehfelf dude, I tend to not consider 2+ months of grind a "little investment". The fact they nerf him right after having him on guild shop so everyone finally got it is fucking outrageous. Just ban him from TA if that's the problem, I am sure there would be 0 complain. All games have a ban system in pvp lol. But the point is not making TA enjoyable, the point is gutting the meta GR comp so that whales can chase the next meta, which I assume is gonna be custodes right?
@@bluemoka8992 Yeah, a ban system for TA (like an extension of the Draft gamemode) would be amazing imo. Imagine picking 7 characters and getting to ban 2 characters from each team. Job done, players can disable combos that they hate.
@@TechPriestFred yeah I mean, that looks such a quick and easy solution. Who is committed to play TA won't care about the extra 30 seconds it would take, and that would make the mode actually competitive
Abaddon need love and most of the black Legion too
I was SO happy about finally getting Ragnar, after saving up and spending MONTHS grinding enough guild tokens to get the shards for him. -_-
This feels like a massive slap in the face. Sure, we may get the orbs backs, but guild tokesn wont be coming back, and especially so if the whole team drops dead overnight.
Oh just imagine having up him and 10 other characters for the meta comp he's the main part... Doing that investment in the game for more than a year... And having it all destroyed because they cannot just ban him from a gamemode that was already vastly hated before Ragnar existed...
And for your effort? A reset stone... I could have done the mech comp instead but I consciously choose the Ragnar comp instead, guess I made a bad choice I had no possibility to predict
it better feel like a slap in the face wolf user
@@simonmasset2238On top of it all, if they do it to Ragnar, how can I trust they won't do it to any other team/character we grind to unlock, promote and build up? Makes me super demotivated to build anything up. 😕
@@TheLightams exactly
Yo be honest, ragnar in ta is not the problem. TA is the problem. It needs revisiting.
The maps need to bigger
@Monk1400 1
@@Monk1400+1, said it multiple times, bigger maps allow better tactics
100% facts
Also faction TA is much better
Nerfing Ragnar to fix a shit game mode is some god tier stupidity
I got Ragnar as my first legendary and of all the game modes in Tacticus I've played so for, tournament arena is my least favorite. It seems complaining about one character is sufficient to get him nerfed, just like in World of Warcraft. Whiners produce nerfs.
Nah, he was the reason it was genuinely broken, it's completely deserved
saying they will nerf ragnar when they are going to change ragnar is god tier stupidity
I biggest time sink in leveling these characters to D3 is the legendary resources that are character specific. Getting those back do no good because the rest of the space wolves are mediocre.
Why is it worth sacrificing GR performance for TA performance? TA is active 4 days a month (other is faction specific).
I do like what you said about creating space for the design of new characters. In that case you also need to change Aun’Shi’s active
Simply making Howl not stack with itself would go a long way, before making major changes
While I understand balance changes are necessary I think something beyond the reset stone would be required not just because of all the support characters you mentioned but also some of us have spent real world money to get these characters and it would leave a bitter taste in my mouth if handled incorrectly.
On Ragnar being nerfed for TA
It's simply the lack of counter to it that's the problem.
Overwatch, useless, terminator armour, useless.
The only way you win is if they missplay.
Occasionally you can survive past round 2 on powerup TA and then win through attrition.
Aun'Shi being able to reset his active and use it again on the same turn is a huge part of the problem.
Devestating a Guild Raid Team for TA is also not community popular.
It could potentially wipe out a years worth of grind!
Especially damaging for mid game players who've just built 1 GR team and picked Ragnar.
I don't think any of the GR teams need to be touched.
I have no trouble getting 15 neruoparasites on turn 3 tops.
I've not got Exitor Rho to the D3 yet, but my mech team doesn't out damage my neuro comp atm. I think the damage they both do is on point and Snowprint should focus on making other compositions viable with similar damage numbers. I also appreciate them making bosses that counter a single comp in some way, such as Magnus just did to Neuro.
This encourages building different teams. Which I think is a more positive direction.
I will edit this later to add what I'd like to see buffed.
I am so close to ragnar and they announce changes to him? Pain. Agony.
I just got It to gold 1 😂😢
I’m 2 items away from d3 Ragnar and 10 shards away from blue star. And they drop this lol
The fact that y'all didn't see this coming, is mind numbing. He's broken beyond explanation 😅
@CallMeFVLL i was aware It would happen but space wolfs are my favorite space marines so i just hoped It would take longer
@@CallMeFVLLwhom else do you push then to stay competitive? I hate Admech :) probably need to focus on DA now, they would definitely never be nerfed lol
The reset stone is pointless. All the other Space Wolves are useless so the returned Space Wolf equipment will just sit there unused, and all the time and energy and guild raid rewards will not be returned. Nobody is going to level up another space wolf in place of Ragnar. Unless the stone gives back thousands of energy that it takes to farm the legendary gear it is no use.
I think a character should NEVER be nerfed, it destroys faith in the game. Who is the next to be nerfed? Is it a total waste of months of time and effort to level any character? in this case it will just shift broken TA to another meta team. The TA needs fixing not a meta character. It needs proper brackets so that endgame players cant farm starter noob teams. The TA needs splitting by power level like Arena, not by character level.
Snowprint also needs to much better plan the traits of each character. Many Legendaries are totally useless, the majority of characters in the game have no use. There is no rock/paper/scissors in the game, other games have multiple meta teams that can counter eachother. Another problem is the glacial pace of leveling a character. If it didn't take months and months and months, even a whole year, to obtain and max a character people wouldn't be so heavily invested in them and annoyed that the time they put in is wasted, and if characters could be leveled faster people would be more experimental and not have to focus so narrowly on the meta characters.
Ragnar has been in the game how long? Double howl has been easily abused and too powerful from that point and we are...a year later? Also it seems to me that any nerf that affects GR is a mistake considering AdMech are the problem there and any nerf to MH makes AdMech even better. Why they didn't just nerf the active/active interaction of Ragnar and Aunshi, I don't understand.
The way this was announced was completely bush league. Either shut the fuck up and keep a lid on it or tell the players exactly what is happening. To announce that one of the most powerful and coveted characters is getting a nerf, that will affect many other characters, on a Friday, with NO DETAILS is beyond rage bait.
Your list of unit buffs is a good place to start. I'd like to see factions get buffed, specifically UM and Necrons should be cheaper to upgrade and Black Legion needs their faction trait boosted as well as unit buffs to all five of them, but especially Abaddon. The fact that Calgar is a better Chaos buffer than Abaddon is a joke. Volk needs overwatch, at a minimum. Angrax needs his passive to scale better. Arch needs to be less squishy as well as seeing his summons get the blessings of khorne trait. Haarken, his active is shit and should be replaced.
If i took a million years i could not summon enough of a care about tournaments. Worst most boring part of the game killing characters in GR isn't going to help.
My multi-hit GR team is built around Ragnar. If nerfs effectively impair his use as the primary member of that setup, then I didn't just waste time and resources on him. I would almost need to build a whole new team.
Overall I think this is a great game. Progression is of course a huge part of the appeal. Setting me back that far makes it likely I'll just call it quits.
Same for me with exitor tbh
Agree. This is a crazy cash grab bet for whales. Many people who are in the “mid tier” (probably paying for the monthly pass and maybe some black stone) will quit over this. Sets you back months. Additionally, it tells you that it’s not worth rebuilding. Why would you? They will likely do it again a year from now. Only way this is logical is if aimed at people who will instantly drop tons of money into building other lineups. Will they?
They can’t changed Ragnar now..I’m about 50 shards away from finally unlocking him after months of grinding the guild shop 😩
yes, they can, and they will. womp. fucking. womp.
When you want to nerf a core character's ability, you are not changing a character. A team of 10 characters. Because a good MH consists of that many characters. You're wasting months, almost a year of invested energy, time and money.
Nerfing howl doesn't make Ragnar any different. You lose the value of evolved knives as objects. Many other characters lose their value.
Do we get a reset stone for that? Great. We can use the upgrades we get back on Njal or Arjac. Dont need a reset sone. Give back all invested energy and cash.
We had meta TA before Ragnar. There was meta before meta. And there will be a new meta after Ragnar's nerf, because the TA system is fundamentally bad. It has a system of games divided into circles. But some abilities are only available from the second round. That's what makes it fail. If there is no double howl, there will be Boss G, Mephiston and Thoread buffed by Mataneo and Celestine.
Mephiston! He needs way more damage to be at least some accurate to the lore
I hate being another negative voice… but a reset stone helps no one. If Ragnar nerf affects GR we def need 5-6 reset stones to rebuild teams. And the mats refunded need to be universal for their rarity level… because SW mats will not be useful for building any other GR character. SP has done this to themselves and they need to make it right with the player base regardless of “game economy” ….which honestly is one of the few things they are absolutely wrong about. Also virtually no one cares about TA in comparison to the rest of the game… if the need is because of TA they need to change TA, not the characters.
Yikes, this announcement came just before i started pushing rho and ragnar up from lvl35.
Ill put that on hold for now.
Thaumachus! Needs more shields to compete with wrask, maybe some psychic damage on active to increase faction synergy
Varro is like one of the strongest psykers in the setting , he has seen Tyranids hive mind )
So it's like seeing a Lovecraftian creature and not logging off 😂
The issue is double howl. Aunshi can make other characters ridiculous as well by doubling up in a turn. The fix for that is to simply make it so no ability can be used more than once a turn. By anyone. This way future characters dont have this issue either.
I don't mind one extra rule for pvp *No double warhoul for pvp"* and nothing more, double warhoul yes for the others modes and i Will be ok with that
You are absolutely right. The problem is the double howl, combined with the turn 2 movement buff from Aun’shi. Even if we accept that TA is such a huge problem (it isn’t, being the games crappest mode) that it’s worth crippling a year’s worth of resource gathering (easily - unless you are a whale), killing Ragnar is not the solution. Logically, there are two possible explanations: a) SP are completely daft, b) they are “solving” for a different problem - it’s a bet that whales will instantly sink thousands of dollars into alternative builds. Maybe they will or maybe they will react, you know, sensibly and go do something else.
Nerfs are never the answer. Reset stone who cares. It’s only going to affect the low and mid level players the same players at the top getting the big rewards will stay the same. This is not a mix up it’s a push down to everyone else who spent money to get some of that power for there game. If they nerf exotor Roh after the money and time spent now I’m seeing good numbers in guild raids. The same guild raid that the high level players have capitalised on for a long time to get maximum benefits. We start and now a need is coming. No not good enough buff other characters so the mid to low level players don’t take the hits. That’s how you move forward . Reset stone include the a game refund in money spent. Unlikey.
The problem is whenever they nerf and buff someone, there will always be another nerf that you invested time and money to support that character.
If ragnarok was a problem in TA they can just change his team composition or not include him at all.
Don’t nerf Ragnar for the entire game for the sake of one 3 day game mode.
I’m literally 10 shards from Ragnar waiting for him to come in store again
I completely disagree with the assertion of nerfs being good in this case. In a regular video game that can be the case but this is a time gated mobile game with limited resources available even if you shell out money.
If Ragnar is no longer able to provide the same role in a team the reset stone may get your resources back but the space wolves specific materials won't help in leveling characters that are not space wolves. You are still losing time investment from the limited resources you have per day.
You nail the point!
Nerfs are not required if you are constantly balancing around a certain power level.
Imho the only change that needs fixing is Aunshi interacts with those around him. Skills need to be once per turn. And Aunshis passive needs to be linked to the Tau faction. If he Aunshi increases damage by 100? Then it only does 50 for none tau. No movement increase for none tau. And same thing for damage reduction. 40% for tau. 20% for none tau. Problem solved all around. And you could apply this same balancing tactic to everything. We already have it in place for characters like Eldryon Abbadon and Calgar. They give more to the respective factions and less or even none to those who arent.
Praise to you for taking a sensible stance on this and not thinking the sky is falling like 90% of the rest. I hope some of your wishes come true!
All the comments and opinions back and forth and one thing becomes readily apparent. The issue is TA. The fix should be TA. I despise facing Ragnar in TA but it would never have occurred to me the fix would be to nerf the character himself and potentially negatively influence the multihit team. So many solid suggestions by the community to fix TA including rotating banned characters to shift the meta, players allowed to nominate a ban before the match etc etc. Anything is better than nerfing him. Is he broken? Absolutely. But so is Kharn, Mateneo, Celestine, Anushi etc etc. This will be a slippery slope that shouldt even be approached. Fix TA, don't damage characters. I absolutely understand balance requirements but this is pretty risky terrain.
I believe you are WRONG Fred on a number of counts with Ragnar. First if Snow Print is trying to stay true to the lore, Ragnar Is an unbalancing character. So that is accurate. Second nerfing a character for causing a problem in 1 particular area ( and a very flawed area at that! ) Sounds an awful lot like sour grapes. Third the limited reset stone will only be minorly helpful for many who have worked hard just to get the character. I literally just obtained him through months of battles and buying up shards when I could. I'm not anywhere near gold 1 level but a lot has been spent for him. What good does a "limited reset do someone like me?!
Finally, I can honestly say that while I like most of your posts. I am thoroughly disappointed in your apparent attitude in this one "Finally Ragnar Is Getting Changed" There's a good way to hack off any Space Wolves fan.
We played just fine before we had Ragnar, he's running people(potential buyers) away from the game. It's called Tacticus, but there's nothing tactical about Rarrrrrr SMASH, especially on a small map.
@@CallMeFVLL You are of course entitled to your opinion, as am I. Ragnar Is a berserker and those exist within the Warhammer universe Tacticus is based within. I have had to develop strategies to counter the same. Deal with it by developing the same, not crying foul.
@@jerrydniles5010 Brother Ragnar is fckin b r o k e n, you bring up lore we can talk the same about so many chars, enjoy the nerf and stfu
@@jerrydniles5010 there is no confident counter of Ragnar Aun'shi Mataneo Celestine and Kharn on a small map, cut the shxt. Some matches are literally determined by who's first, even if a mirror match. It's low IQ play, before him I'd face all kinds of teams. Know 8 out of every 10 is Ragnar, how TF does that benefit the game? Imagine going to a Yu-Gi-Oh tourney and everyone had the same deck, playing pokemon with only mirror teams, etc. That's what it's down to... even in raids, if we're all doing the exact same fxxking combos, how is that fun?!?!
So my only diamond 3 character is Ragnar so resource intensive plus clearing all campaigns that building a mech team is out and the nuero comp works less and less
Just unlocked him about a week ago and got him to gold one yesterday... D: At least I haven't farmed for materials that much, rigth? D,:
I at least hope some of the more garbage characters will get turned semi-viable - starting with Certus, Vitruvis, and Incisus.
Well, I guess that's the dilema when you build your game around incredibly long farming time and frustration.
Now hiting any character with the nerf hammer to the point where you need a Reset token is a clusterfudge since Tacticus is about *character synergy*
In my case I just spent weeks of ressources upgrading Sho, Tan'gida and Exitor because I got absolutely no luck unlocking Multi-hit or Neuro key characters.
If the *composition* gets heavily nerfed without proper ways to get refunded you can bet I'm out of here :'D.
Past that, I can agree with Vitruvius' situation, giving him a proper support power could open theory crafting for a sniper/melee one hit team (coupled with Nicodemus?).
Everyone can get multihit team. Eldryon and Ragnar are the key two that you can start to use just with those two. Eldryon you need a high level anyway to complete the campaign and Ragnar is in the GR shop for everyone. Then add to that Aethana to buff Ragnar, and Bellator or another melee character. Plus one other damage dealer. Then swap them for Calgar from the campaign nodes, the Elite node for efficiency or Standard for a longer less efficient grind. Then you can get Aun'shi from the GR shop to replace Aethana for the icing on the cake to give Ragnar double howl, if they don't nerf that in GR.
Yes bro, i put X-rho D3 and bot habilities 50/50 one week ago, tanghida D3 44/48, and Buy some battle pass here and there. They nerf them and I don't play anymore, they do SO much damage i understand but they are so hard to grind, only imperial badgets, feels like a scam if that happens
The problem with TA isn't Ragnar, is that there is not any rank. It's an noobie grinder. I feel bad for people that are coming into the game with Ultramarines + Necrons + Black Legion and has to deal with all sorts of legendaries chatacters
I honestly dont get it. Leave Ragnar alone and do something with the others that people have been asking about.
This is just another cash grab attempt - to try force people to purchase blackstone for energy. The game is great and the devs have done a super job, but the hyper monetisation is getting out of hand.
The combo aunshi- ragnar is the only problem in TA, its annoying how many infrahumans with lack of inteligence use the combo
I need a store that uses "ability reset stones" as currency.
I have full d3 white star 50 skill lvl ragnar pack with kharn, ragnar. aunshi. celestine and aethana, fuck them I gonne leave the game if they nerf ragnar, I also gave psyker pack with fully lvled eldrion and I lvl my mech pack, what should I do if they nerf these main characters? more than 2 years spent to lvl them all
Nerfs being seen as brave isn’t actually a thing anymore because nerfing is actually really easy but also can ruin metas sp should focus on buffing characters we have abaddon who has been bad for so long that we have a video about him being bad
If they nerf ragnar, than a lot of my characters about 10 become absolutely useless in arena, depending on what they do with him. if that happens, than welp... time to go back using only 1 team again.
Great vid. Nice analysis of possible nerfs, and the broader effects the nerfs would have.
Would love to see Typhus buffed, just a little damage boost would make him much more viable. Beyond that, I feel like Asmodai and Azrael need complete ground-up reworks. They’re both serious players in the setting, but they’re C- or D-tier in Tacticus. Azrael especially should be on par with Calgar and Ragnar as a Chapter Master, and he’s completely underwhelming.
I also feel like all terminator units should have the “unstoppable” trait. Pretty sure a termi isn’t going to care at all about razor wire or a little bit of fire in some dry grass…
Devs be pulling some dumb moves
typhus needs a better passive, or make his melee attack stronger to have a reason to be in melee and use the passive.
Wasn t ragnar good as is?
I don t have him and ends up facing him in arena, yet win more than half the time.
Kharn is way more problematic imho.
Bruh, I Just spend months and months gettin ragnar and upgrading him and now I get this, is this some tzeentch sorcery?
i've only just finished building the ragnar/aunshi team today, weeks and weeks of planning and effort pissed away
Nice buff list. You scared me a bit with the eldryon nerf but I totally get your logic. And I loved the 4 way chat you had with caged slinky and preacher and think there is design space for in game buffers to buff piercing more widely or type and not just damage or hits
Heres a take on this, let the game evolve naturally and create characters to counter the strength of other more established characters. Let’s be honest SP hasn’t released a good character since Kharn. I have a whole bunch of new characters that I will never touch. It seems there is a lack of creative solutions to the issue addressed in this video but no lack of a desire to keep raking in large amounts of money.
Honestly TA dont give enought resources to this feels right
Killing my entire GR team by nerfing Ragnar after spending months leveling and gearing him is the last push I needed to quit this game.
1 Reset stone is not the solution - the whole roster is based on key point characters!
Great video if they nerfed them 3 characters think there would be anarchy 😂 I would love Njal and Abaddon to be buffed though 🙏
Even if you make Rho's passive to 1 hit and buff the dmg by 50% you're still making him way more shitty because of eldryon not granting the same dmg
And removing Eld from the formula is already a 50% dmg reduction, just look at Mech team vs Avatar compared to any other boss
If they did both those changes, I'll probably just give up on tacticus lol. Those are the only two characters I've worked really hard on
Well they do it, eldryon Will not buff habilities anymore
@@XxyjmaxX They kinda compensate with Vit now, but we will see
Hoping Certus and Thutmose buffs. Both needs it so bad
I completly agree with your wish list buffs tho
Nerfing is usually the result of a lack of play testing. it also leaves a bad taste especially when you consider the amount of real life money you might used to obtain and evolve the Character. I can really understand people who are pissed at this. And yes I am completely against nerfing.
I did a LOT of farming to have a decent multihiter team in the game and lvl them up, etc... (Ragnar, Calgar, Eldryon, Bellator, Aun'si) This is the first guild raid where i can finally use may (almost) d2 team and now Ragnar gets a nerf... fckin niccce.... Fck TA, ban ragnar, who cares.
1 reset stone doesn't give my last 6 MONTHS back, while i farm every single day.
Something that pisses me more: Every buffs goes to the mechs, multihiter team just gets all the nerfs. And because of a seasonal event, Ragnar gets a rework/ nerf... this will surelly be negative to his perforamance in guild raids as well.
If ragnar will be bad in guild raids, i will quit this game. #Leave Ragnar alone!
They have to buff abaddon i cant wait
Edited coment: I don't think they should nerf Exitor yet as he is pretty much only usefull on GR. I think that ragnar would be fine as long as they either cut the double warcry, make the use of the warcry as the turns action followed by atack to an adjacent target and or removing the "unstopable" part to nerf some of the broken interactions while mantaining him viable in ta and GR. Would it hit the one turn burst in gr? Sure, but you could use aun shi to use the warcry again on a second turn
@@juandavidcolmenares8219 I don't want Ragnar being killed in GR, my proposed change would weaken him since Double Howl is also an important part of the Multihit team burst potential.
And yes, I want to nerf Rho because the powerlevel of his passive will restrict future designs if it stays like this. And I say this as a god damn AdMech fanboy with a Legendary 5-ready Mech team. It's being unbiased, not hypocrisy imo.
@@TechPriestFred yeah I misunterstood, sorry dude I'll edit the coment, didnt't intended it to be an atack
@ Nah dude, no need to be sorry
Im a day 1 player (beta as well), lvl 57 with 2 strong gr teams (d2/3). One of these is ragnar comp. Tbf GR are the only thing that keeps me still in this game. Ragnar in ta is strong but not unbeatable. U can easly counter that "deadly combo" with proper postioning and using active abilities of your characters. Instead of crying i just used my brain and figured out how to couter it. And u dont need legendary characters to do it...
If they nerf ragnar that affects gr half of my d3' will be semi-trash... And exitor still will be doing his fuckin milion dmg...
Reset stone? Great! I can use those 82 legendary mjod to push into njal....
SP do what u wanna do... I dont care anymore xxdd
All psykers (excepts NT passive) are underrated in the game. Mephiston, Varro and Njal should be waaaaaay more powerful
No way the will nerf all the GR meta characters.
Well thats swell I was just about to unlock.him
I agree about about Eldryon being too universal. Kind of same with Ragnar being PvE and PvP character but what I love is you mentioning that its not just single character - many of us have D3 and even blue star characters build around him, many even more than 4 other as you like to switch one character there for this particular boss ect. Guild boss team for me are the only characters I lvled, and ascended to the max as its part of guild efford and in return all of us to get XP books in return because guild is doing good. What Ill point out is even if I get 5 or 20 reset stones it will still take me about half a year befor I have new boss team as .... 900 Ragnar shards cant be used to ascend Gida or Exitor, nor storehouse full of Mjod, runic talismans or tooth necklases. At least imperial bages might get use if I want to build mechs but still cant choose to go Neuro team.
And I havent paid any money to get Ragnar and/or Kharn to play this team but ... there are such ppl and offer prices arent often just symbolic.
Teams without Ragbar can be usable, Khan and another heroes can take some new company from multi hit heroes or buffer heroes
Proposal for Ragnar active - player choose enemy and against this enemy we have his old active, but only against this one enemy. This will change anything against bosses but will be great nerf in TA
Fantastic video!
I think that the Black Legion passive need to be buffed and reworked too.
I don't think an Ad Mech nerf would be in good taste after giving us a mini campaign event to farm them exclusively.
Imo Rho restricts future design space in terms of Mech synergies and it would be better taste to do it now than in a year or so
“Has reduced effect in PvP”
Done.
I would be pissed if they nerf the mech team. The guild I am in can normally get through the first and second legendary bosses and are trying to progress. Nerfing the mech team would push us back to epic bosses. I would seriously consider quitting if that happens and I have spent a lot on this game and want to get further, not pushed back.
More damage for thyfus? It already gives me headaches in TA haha
Oi, Ragnar without double howl has plenty of interesting decisions in GR
I can't help but feel that if this comes about, it's to appease the whales at the expense of the FTP players, considering also that the support charcters to Ragnar are ones that many FTP players will not have, so is doubly a slap in the face.
I have never touched the TA, and have no interest in going there which seems to be the stance of most in my guild. As others have said, I have spend time and resources on getting Ragnar to where he is, and focused resources and time on other characters to support him. I don't use any other SW character, so a reset stone would be pointless to be used on Ragnar.
I understand that an overpowered character can be detrimental to certain game modes, and eventual power creep, but the downside of nerfing in this way is "who's next"? If the next overpowered meta team (you mention Ad-mech) is in danger of getting nerfed, then can I have any confidence in spending resources on certain builds/teams in the future?
To be fair, I do like a broad roster and aim to have everyone silver 1 at least, and a good portion in Gold levels. I only have three at diamond 1 (Ragnar, Roswitha, and Bellator) so I won't be as affected as others, but the point still stands. FTP players (or those only spending a little) need to spend more real world time getting characters up to high levels, and time is more important/valuable to those players than developers may realise.
I don't much care since I don't have it yet. Or any of the Legendary chars from the roster. Been playing for 2+ years now, countless 10+ req order sets, deep into that Mercy crap stuff and still not a single Legendary drop. Only chars left to obtain are all the legendaries. Who's in the same pickle?
They shouldn't nerf him for TA reasons. Better nerf TA.
The replacement will need to be good...
Honestly the gold 1 reset stone is a great idea, the Eldryon nerf possibility i wouldn't like, he is a great to help HRE characters get the dmg quest if you dont upgrade it right the way, he by himself its not super op, he helps a lot on SM campaign
I dont hate nerfs as long as they give some love to all the terrible and barely usable units, for the love of the Emperor buff the Black Legion and Abaddon and the Astra Militarum could use some buffs too.
Idgaf about reset stone, i spent countless guild credits and after a month of having him and got him at S2 rn i am going to have him nerfed… just ban him in tournament arena and the problem is solved wtf is this….. i am mad rn
And about buffs Please give my boy Anuphet a buff finally
Is anyone actually frustrated by admech? Surely it's mostly pvp modes where people need decent balance, and they're not meta there
Im generally in favor of nerfs if there is a single char or characteristic thats ruining the game. Now I would be affected by an Exitor nerf and im like 3 onslaughts away from bluestar (D3 of course) and 45/50 skills. I dont think Admech is a "problem" to the game though that needs fixing. Doing high damage in GR doesnt affect anyone else negatively but Ragnar was pure toxicity in Pvp.
So Im hoping all in all SP is able to make the meta GR teams somewhat comparable in damage output and maybe come up with a fourth option. Maybe they could add rules to the guild bosses so using black legion for example would give damage buffs against certain bosses.
Just ban rangar at TA, its so stupid idea to throw away multihit team to trash
#BuffIncisus!
I was grinding 1 year for ragnar and now he is nerfed ???
They should just ban him from TA or make non-faction war TA so that you can only bring one legendary...
I don't even get the TA Ragnar meta... every time I've fought the meta combo it doesn't even work as advertised, and it's not like I'm an amazing TA player.
Me to bro I refuse to use that team and beat it most of the time with other meta ta characters like revas,calandis,celestine,Thad noble,Jaeger and a few more
Yes more reset stones and I won’t be upset
Nerfing hiom and giving a stone is not worth. Terrible take on that
Make War Howl not stack with itself. Fixes TA and doesn't cripple GR.
im with most here why nerf Ragnar to fix a shitty gamemode, and the reset stone will not give us back the time spendt grinding or the money spendt LRE packs, and now ppl will have to spend time and/or money grinding new meta teams, snowprint is fast becomming one of the most arogant and greedy companies.
Aww yeah a reset stone. Just fucking balance better. Just using the nerf hammer is dumb as shit.
People whining so hard about Ragnar when all they have to do is slightly change their tactics and he isn't a threat. Nerfs are not the answer
How do you "slightly change tactics" exactly? Its not possible to win against the comp if its played correctly.
@@nick1635 won against it plenty
I guess i am luckier than most people here as i got my ragnar from req but still dont nerf him to much in guild raid plis
Your reasoning for nerfs is incredibly flawed in a pve game. Buff alternatives and retool older characters to fill new roles.
just nerfing ragnar's active and switching some of the dmg to the passive would work, i guess. Then ragnar + kharn wouldn't be so oppressive while preserving ragnar's overall dmg. Also no double war howls, that shit's broken.
Easy the owl only for space wolves..end of the problem..
that would make him useless for GR and make some of my guildmates quit the game (top 7-10)