Uechi Ryu Karate vs Kuk Sool Kwan Hapkido

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ม.ค. 2025

ความคิดเห็น • 69

  • @mastermichaeldunchok
    @mastermichaeldunchok 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    This is my space and this was probably filmed while I was gone attending the University of Oxford in England. Eric and Ryan are my students. Neither are yet black belts, though Eric is training to perhaps test for 1st dan next year.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Very cool! Thanks for the information!

  • @camiloiribarren1450
    @camiloiribarren1450 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Uechi Ryu, much like Goju Ryu and other Okinawa karate styles, have mainly white crane and southern mantis base combined with Tegumi/okinawa wrestling.
    This is really cool and I like this exchange they’re having, friendly while still challenging

  • @Shade84
    @Shade84 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I only watched "Bill vs Hapkido Coach", but it's refreshing to see this sort of chill sparring with such mutual respect. I trained in a place just like that in the early 2000s, but being young and with MMA on the rise I got impatient and didn't appreciate what was being offered there the way I should have.

  • @MaNTaMuNeX
    @MaNTaMuNeX 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I met an old korean guy smoking cigs in front of a big apartment complex in Hawaii (back then i was smoking lots of weed and met him outside the area often) i hurt my foot in that time while doing a spinning backkick and fell with my heel first on the ground. Anyway when he learned that im interested in Martial Arts he showed me some pressure points and wristlocks... Damn that guy could control me like it was nothing and he was 20kilos lighter than me. I have so much respect for him and his lessons (i didnt really get how he did it but whenever he touched me on pressure points at the hand it was INSANE pain) also the way he kicked was so fluent he would kick 3 different targets in one motion. I sadly never asked for his Name. Thanks Korean Guy !!!

    • @MaNTaMuNeX
      @MaNTaMuNeX 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He said the martial art was called hapkido thats why i make this comment

    • @DearLeaderKimJongUn
      @DearLeaderKimJongUn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Omg I can't believe I found the young man from so many years ago. Glad to know ou still remember those lessons from all those years ago

    • @MaNTaMuNeX
      @MaNTaMuNeX 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DearLeaderKimJongUn i bet u can tell me what uve worked as back then to confirm it is you :D

    • @edmondlau511
      @edmondlau511 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Update: there was no old Korean guy. It was the imagination from the weed 😂

    • @MaNTaMuNeX
      @MaNTaMuNeX 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@edmondlau511 lol 😁

  • @HybridMMAExtreme
    @HybridMMAExtreme 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I was actually thinking about Hapkido vs uechi ryu 2 days ago lol but I'm glad I get to see now there is a video of this.

  • @elenchus
    @elenchus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love watching Bill. I remember watching some videos of him like in the early TH-cam days and just being so excited to see someone pulling this kind of stuff off against real pressure.

  • @BillyTheKidsGhost
    @BillyTheKidsGhost 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    ...a bit upset about the lack of throws and wristlocks. But I had no idea that Uechi Ryu looked like that, I thought it was closer to Kyokushin than ''kung fu''... But it's nice to see the enthusiasm is still alive.

    • @mastermichaeldunchok
      @mastermichaeldunchok 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They probably determined the rules would not involve any grappling

  • @TheAustinDelgado
    @TheAustinDelgado 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Whenever I see Kuk sool I get so happy bc I took it as a kid and nobody knew the martial art.

  • @Beave98
    @Beave98 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    awesome seeing wholesome representation of traditional martial arts

    • @Shadowrulzalways
      @Shadowrulzalways หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Beave98 Hapkido isn’t traditional. It’s a modern art. “Tranditional” martial arts are classic ones. Hapkido started in the 40’s and 50’s.

  • @thescriptorium1206
    @thescriptorium1206 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I trained kuk sool kwan for about 4 years under GM Mike Dunchok. Its a generalist's martial art through and through. Lots of dual wielding weapons, fast lead leg kicks, stand up grappling, and circles. Our "boxing" was somewhat basic(though powerful) and seemed to mostly be an excuse to close distance and start throwing each other around.

  • @fallingleaveskungfu
    @fallingleaveskungfu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That's a cool space. 👏

    • @mastermichaeldunchok
      @mastermichaeldunchok 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@fallingleaveskungfu That's actually my space. You know me!

    • @fallingleaveskungfu
      @fallingleaveskungfu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mastermichaeldunchok LOL, I was actually wondering if that was your space! 🤣
      Our interview should be dropping soon. 👏

  • @chopsueykungfu
    @chopsueykungfu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sparring? Didn’t know you covered that!

  • @antoniostrina82
    @antoniostrina82 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Some Ganryujima mixed fights are pretty good, and looks like that some "traditional" fighters have a more realistic approach with their style. The guys in this video seem practice in a realistic approach although this is a training for technique.

  • @PaulGappyNorris
    @PaulGappyNorris 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Two ‘old geezers’ having some fun . Good for them 🤓

    • @TheAustinDelgado
      @TheAustinDelgado 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey ! They’re called veterans hahha

  • @IMadeYouUpsetHuh
    @IMadeYouUpsetHuh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bro I swear I thought the old guy in the back was that Tai Chi master yall made that video with that one time 😂

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thats funny!

    • @IMadeYouUpsetHuh
      @IMadeYouUpsetHuh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @FightCommentary it even looked like they were doing push hands so I was like wait is it? Lmao

  • @Raiden4019
    @Raiden4019 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Didn't Icy Mike from Hard2Hurt mention doing Kuk Sool Kwan? Granted, I don't recall him saying many positive things about it, but still! 😅

    • @thescriptorium1206
      @thescriptorium1206 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Raiden4019 icy did kuk sool won. Kuk sool kwan and kuk sool won have the same origin in the kuk sool hwe but kuk sool won is less focused on keeping the techniques violent and effective. Kuk sool kwan looks at roughly the same curriculum and says "im going to use so many circles to make you effective at maiming people".

    • @Raiden4019
      @Raiden4019 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thescriptorium1206 "im going to use so many circles to make you effective at maiming people" Careful, you'll get dizzy! 😂

    • @thescriptorium1206
      @thescriptorium1206 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Raiden4019 ok but being dizzy was a daily occurance when i was training KSK XD

  • @TREAL406
    @TREAL406 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good morning. I had no knowledge of Uechi Ryu Karate being close to Wing Chun Kung Fu.

    • @Robb-ex8jo
      @Robb-ex8jo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      An Okinawan traveled to Southern China and studied "pan gai noon" which translates as half-hard half-soft. It's very Chinese in that it combines opposites: Tiger kung fu (external, hard, offensive) with White Crane kung fu (internal, soft, defensive). The system was renamed for him after his death and although the system is now called Karate and trained as if it were, having Kata and Bunkai and Kumite and they wear gi all the techniques are still based on a Southern Chinese close infighting system. It's a very unfancy and practical form of kung fu.

    • @TREAL406
      @TREAL406 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Robb-ex8jo hello. How are you doing? Thank you for the information. A martial artist from Japan studied southern-style martial arts for 10 years before returning to Okinawa to start his own dojo teaching his own style.

  • @matthewshepherd5390
    @matthewshepherd5390 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Which one of these knows how to fight?

    • @Andrew-qy1kz
      @Andrew-qy1kz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hahahaha I know. Looks like they have been watching old kung fu movies and now playing

  • @popfeske3612
    @popfeske3612 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have s black belt in kook sol won and hapkido but I don't know anything about kook Sul Kwon hapkido. Interesting

    • @mastermichaeldunchok
      @mastermichaeldunchok 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @popfeske3612 We were founded a year apart, Won in 1961 and us in 1962. We were together in Kuk Sool Hwe since 1958.

  • @PhilipAJones
    @PhilipAJones 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I thought Kuk Sool Won was a separate Korean martial art than Hapkido.

    • @ekimeno3061
      @ekimeno3061 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is

    • @mastermichaeldunchok
      @mastermichaeldunchok 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not. All Kuk Sool, even Kuk Sool Won, has always been Hapkido.

    • @ekimeno3061
      @ekimeno3061 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mastermichaeldunchok Uhhhh that's very incorrect. There are schools of Hapkido that operate as Kuk Sool Kwan Hapkido rather than Kuk Sool WON. They are definitively different arts with the same DNA

    • @mastermichaeldunchok
      @mastermichaeldunchok 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ekimeno3061 It's not incorrect. Kuk Sool Won in the 1960s was Kuk Sool Won Hapkido. Lol Read my name, why argue with me?
      Edit: Forgot I dropped "Kuk Sool Kwan" from my name. At any rate, I'm a KSK grandmaster.

  • @davidasand7582
    @davidasand7582 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope they never run into a high school wrestler. Then they'd be screwed

    • @DubiousDubs
      @DubiousDubs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Woah, the old hobbyists would get beaten by a young, able bodied athlete? Who could ever have guessed!
      Some people just do martial arts for fun- that says nothing about the quality of the art itself. It's all in the way you train it, and the fact is an old dude with an auto-immune disorder cannot afford to do the hours of comparatively hard sparring that it takes to get to a really competitive level

    • @youlovechika
      @youlovechika 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      my hapkido master had a son who was a third degree black belt.
      he went on to win multiple highschool state wrestling championship in nc after starting around 10th grade

    • @davidasand7582
      @davidasand7582 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@youlovechika so he was an athlete that played pretend that did well in wrestling

    • @davidasand7582
      @davidasand7582 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DubiousDubs all in the way you train lol this stuff is fake. The art of you defending it as real is an art in itself.

    • @DubiousDubs
      @DubiousDubs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @davidasand7582 so you're saying what I said was wrong, and that sparring consistently DOESNT matter? If so, then why do wrestlers have to do it?
      See how that doesn't hold up?
      The fact is, the martial arts that do the best are the ones that spar the most- BJJ, boxing, muay thai, etc. It's not because they've discovered a magic set of moves, in fact, most of them are woefully incomplete.
      The reason systems like hapkido fail is because they don't encourage sparring the same way the aforementioned arts do. To deny that is asinine

  • @davidandrowenaliddle2851
    @davidandrowenaliddle2851 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did not look like uechi ryu

  • @johnmartin9920
    @johnmartin9920 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He needs to move out of the line..

  • @deltonlomatai2309
    @deltonlomatai2309 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Uechi Ryu is not really kicking style.

  • @talesoftwobros
    @talesoftwobros 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was embarrassing to watch 🤦

  • @Joel-xt5yz
    @Joel-xt5yz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    哪吒 can do the both faces leave the hands thing, but it's not a good idea or habit neither

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But nezha got three faces right?

    • @Joel-xt5yz
      @Joel-xt5yz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FightCommentary sure he does, but I think he will still be knocked out if he got hit really hard on one of three faces

  • @Daddy-Grin
    @Daddy-Grin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Again... I ask...
    Why do people Train hours and hours of Uechi Ryu and end up sparring like they practice Tea Kwon do all their lives.
    I'm watching movie and video game moves.
    Lame.