KCM 2024 Season 3 Week 5 - Starcraft Broodwar

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    KCM is a Starcraft Broodwar tournament where species compete in best of 1 matches until only 1 is left standing. All the strongest players from ASL and other Korean tournaments are in attendance each epic season to decide which team will dominate the KCM and the world. Protoss Zerg or Terran?
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  • @SaiyanKCM
    @SaiyanKCM  หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Apologies for game 2 audio. Also I messed up with the week/season, its getting confusing

    • @kkrectalobliterationchan-zl9lx
      @kkrectalobliterationchan-zl9lx หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      shame on you!

    • @XUNsc
      @XUNsc หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kkrectalobliterationchan-zl9lx I'm docking his pay don't worry.

  • @skurfntx
    @skurfntx หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This has gotta be the best KCM season yet. Amazing games every week and then we get treated to a game like Snow vs Queen. It's crazy how the skill level of players and quality of games is still increasing after 25+ years

  • @TranscendentMusic1
    @TranscendentMusic1 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I analyzed the battle between YSC and Royal and there were several notable reasons for the result:
    1) Very late siege by half of the tanks from Royal
    2) The bottom flank of goons was able to close the distance with the tanks quickly, and great target firing by YSC allowed 3 tanks to be killed almost immediately
    3) Ineffective target firing by royal overkilled single dragoons instead of spreading the damage more efficiently
    4) Highground misschance caused several siege shot misses
    5) Looking at the supply 129 YSC and 120 Royal significantly favored Royal, and the expected result of the battle would be Royal favored, however, better target firing and micro by YSC, and poor target firing, and reaction time led to a deserved battle result in favor of YSC

    • @MundaneDave
      @MundaneDave หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      yep, all good observations. The decisive battle at 58:36 was just a disaster.
      Also, a fairly important note that Royal was still at 1 1 upgrades at that point, 15 minutes in. It makes such a huge difference.

    • @Bleak13
      @Bleak13 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks for analysis, it was a great game from YSC

  • @XUNsc
    @XUNsc หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    This one was really intense and quite a few surprises, especially at the end! There's a mirror match encore! Have a great weekend guys

  • @user-fm5qb7rw9s
    @user-fm5qb7rw9s หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The last match was a special match to win an Ultra Gear monitor. Since JD and Queen had identical scores, the sponsors had to decide who should receive the prize.

    • @XUNsc
      @XUNsc หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Gentleman and a scholar, thank you sir.

  • @hackerj23
    @hackerj23 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Second to last game (on Troy) was the best game of the cast!

    • @Sc9cvsd
      @Sc9cvsd หลายเดือนก่อน

      Might be best game of the season. The first game in a long time I yelled out WTF when gg was called

    • @utarian7
      @utarian7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sc9cvsd WTF is everyone surprised about. Queen had all the bases and the onus was on protoss to take a base or bust. It was obvious snow was behind for 15 minutes before the GG.

  • @noname44748
    @noname44748 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Carrier n dragoon was stork's style back in the day.

  • @MundaneDave
    @MundaneDave หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This week was a real banger. So many ggs. Thanks for the cast!!

    • @XUNsc
      @XUNsc หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You're always welcome Dave, yeah this one was wildin'

  • @nafet
    @nafet หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Beautiful sendoff game for Troy

  • @pandabearguy1
    @pandabearguy1 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The YSC - Royal game was indeed strange

  • @mattthemaddogdollar
    @mattthemaddogdollar หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Queen vs Snow - legendary game! So many reversals!

  • @MondSemmel
    @MondSemmel หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    2:35:25: Funny resource imbalance between Queen and Snow: Queen has gas but no minerals, while Snow has minerals but no gas.

    • @XUNsc
      @XUNsc หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's the nature of super lategame ZvP usually, hard to get value out of Zerg gas units, hard to get value out of Protoss mineral units relatively speaking.

  • @dual5ivese7ens
    @dual5ivese7ens หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dang it Snow you almost won it 🥲, this battle with Queen is legendary! Fighting till the last breath!

  • @uTubeismyTivo
    @uTubeismyTivo หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    sick exhaustion game with SnOw

  • @MJ.Actual
    @MJ.Actual หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    mass dragoons is good on apocalypse because of high ground

  • @utarian7
    @utarian7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Appreciate the commentary no doubt, but the zerg bias is top kek. "Oh I think Queen miiiighttt be able to win?" while Queen has literally all the bases lmao. Defiler infinite plague spamming @ 75 minerals per plauge, instantly bringing 700min 400gas worth of units to 1 health with each plague, yet noting how "OP" archons and reavers are.
    And re: dark archons, they're fucking expensive and have shit health, a handful of 25 min cracklings make them pop like balloons.

  • @herpaderp2191
    @herpaderp2191 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dude, Jaedong's hydra micro vs YSC and overall play was top notch. Shades of 2011 Jaedong.

  • @son_60han
    @son_60han หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    3 hours of brood wars ? Let's go !
    Match 2 15:34
    Match 3 1:04:58
    Match 4 1:25:19
    Match 5 1:37:15
    Match 6 1:57:17
    Match 7 2:43:32
    Match 8 2:54:23

    • @veasnamakara5941
      @veasnamakara5941 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You missed the actual game 3 starting at 44:15, thx for the other timestamps

  • @mattthemaddogdollar
    @mattthemaddogdollar หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another great cast - thanks guys!

  • @LuckyStilet1
    @LuckyStilet1 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Snow need Scouts in such a late game vs Guardians.

    • @mattthemaddogdollar
      @mattthemaddogdollar หลายเดือนก่อน

      He ran out of gas.

    • @utarian7
      @utarian7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      with such a huge mineral bank I wonder if 3 dragoons was better than 1 ht.

    • @LuckyStilet1
      @LuckyStilet1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@utarian7 he needed to control sky, all available bases where on islands.

    • @utarian7
      @utarian7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LuckyStilet1 Scourge will wreck those expensive scouts. Especialyl without speed. Fleet beacon, stargate, scout. It's ridiculous to invest in that when scourge can just wipe it. A well defended zerg island can't be stopped.

  • @MondSemmel
    @MondSemmel หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2:14:16 Cheeky drone pickup vs. the zealot drop. Then the drone hangs out in the overlord until mutas clean up the zealots, and eventully the drone rebuilds the island expo at 2:17:00.

    • @XUNsc
      @XUNsc หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Some drones mine until they die or the game ends, some drones go on little adventures. Guys living his best life.

  • @ramzez128
    @ramzez128 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Шикарно! А можно в таких трансляция показывать улучшения которые делаю игроки?

  • @Globodyne
    @Globodyne หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:41:05 the vulture has to be facing in the direction you want it to go before you hop it seems.

    • @XUNsc
      @XUNsc หลายเดือนก่อน

      Doesn't have to be, but it helps since there's less frames needed to turn first before input of mineral sliding being executed. Tanks will also shoot faster if they are already aiming in the direction they need to fire, but it's only fractions of a difference.

  • @son_60han
    @son_60han หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hero's problem is always making hidden base and it always spotted

  • @MondSemmel
    @MondSemmel หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1:35:09: Some weird issue with Xun's audio.

    • @XUNsc
      @XUNsc หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My Terran voice modulator stopped working for a moment, and my Zerg voice started coming through a bit, our apologies.

  • @Bleak13
    @Bleak13 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What a last game!

  • @Sc9cvsd
    @Sc9cvsd หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think queen hit rock bottom missing ASL and since then seems like he has had a pretty big come back in terms of play quality. Maybe not all the way back to his back to back wins form but definitely better

  • @L1golas1
    @L1golas1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "He is not technically dead" ... 150 vs 100 for zerg.. ❤😂
    Same vs Barracks: "JD is in a little bit frustrating position". 63/63 supply. 😂
    JD was amazing!
    Actually I agree on the statement that Snow is very very good, but he is lacking ASL. Wish him next ASL to be a Champ. Hes PvsZ need a bit more crazyness like Mini done before two years.

  • @janpaulbusch1437
    @janpaulbusch1437 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:42:23 Flash would have sent guys to repair, aight?

    • @XUNsc
      @XUNsc หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Depending on the timing of attack and game state, yeah. Sometimes you want that extra 50 minerals/minute to keep pumping too, look how mineral tight Barracks still is without sacrificing SCVs to front. But he is also just weak in TvP, has like a 30% record overall, his TvZ is pretty godly though.

  • @reekhadol
    @reekhadol หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's annoying to always be talking about Flash but the reason this return of his is interesting is that for the first time in his BW career he's struggling.
    He struggled in SC2 but that was a different game, however when coming back from his previous breaks from the game (army, wrist issues etc) Flash was always able to get back on the saddle right away, this time he is looking washed like an old relic and sporting an outdated mindset, which was previously unthinkable.
    And the maps aren't even that hard for terran, if Flash had come back at the end of last year with the ultra-Protoss favored map pool he would have been murdered.

    • @XUNsc
      @XUNsc หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Everyone got a lot better whereas Flash got rustier and out of touch a bit, it takes a lot longer than a few months to switch that up. Give him 6-12 months then we'll see where he's at. He won't win next ASL but if he carries on at this rate will probably be a fairly big monster again just not as dominant.

    • @reekhadol
      @reekhadol หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@XUNsc the best times in brood war are when there are good Zergs around.
      Not when Zerg is good because of maps but when you have proper Zerg leaders around.

  • @anonymousAJ
    @anonymousAJ หลายเดือนก่อน

    the last ZvP match (the long one) I think hallucinated archon trick would have been a better use of his gas than storms

    • @utarian7
      @utarian7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      EZ counter just retreat, take 0 damage and wait for the hallucinations to pop.

    • @anonymousAJ
      @anonymousAJ หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@utarian7 the "hallucinated archon trick" makes real (permanent) archons

    • @utarian7
      @utarian7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@anonymousAJ Oh you mean a glitch? Doubt that's allowed in KCM or ASL. Besides, guardians wreck archons if they are out of reach using the cliff edge.

    • @XUNsc
      @XUNsc หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@anonymousAJ This is hard to do and requires slower game speeds, lag to reliably replicate.

  • @Bigtetrisguy
    @Bigtetrisguy หลายเดือนก่อน

    GG!

  • @carllazarraga2858
    @carllazarraga2858 หลายเดือนก่อน

    New brood war viewer here. I started watchng sc1 for the first time when flash came back. Now I'm more interested in brood war, and I cant watch sc2 anymore lol

    • @SaiyanKCM
      @SaiyanKCM  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Welcome bro, you just stumbled onto a brilliant show with 10 seasons to watch

  • @michaciemniewski9791
    @michaciemniewski9791 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GUARDIANS!!!

  • @denzelnolet
    @denzelnolet หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    dude whaaaatt was that third game. crazy... is the map just very carrier favoured or smth?

  • @fangedcow12345
    @fangedcow12345 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    LMAO protoss losing on troy to guardians. Can't stop laughing. Next season protoss might go on strike again. Then we'll have troy SEE with five free dragoons for protoss on spawning.

    • @mattthemaddogdollar
      @mattthemaddogdollar หลายเดือนก่อน

      Queen was getting BTFO by reavers until he made the guardians. Guardians exist to defeat reavers and seige tanks, so I don't know why you think it's weird that Queen used guardians to attack reavers.

  • @1cortar
    @1cortar หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm crazy or it feels weird dying with 3K minerals?

    • @XUNsc
      @XUNsc หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      If you're referring to the super long PvZ, you have limited minerals in that situation but infinite gas potentially, and it's harder to get value out of mineral units compartively to Zerg who can still get a lot of value out of cracklings meaning they will usually have a lot of gas and protoss a lot of minerals in stalemate; so you have situations where Protoss is banking minerals and waiting for gas (get 75 gas / minute per depleted extractor so with 4 can make only 2 templars a minute still) whereas Zerg is potentially banking gas cause they spend all their minerals and calculating how to tactically invest it, since guardians don't trade well on paper - so not weird at all.

    • @1cortar
      @1cortar หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@XUNsc Zealots on other bases couldn't be any helpful? Thanks for the answer.

    • @mattthemaddogdollar
      @mattthemaddogdollar หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@1cortar The only protoss units doing well at the end of that game were reavers and templars. Zealots get BTFO by cracklings and hydras.

  • @justingagnier2871
    @justingagnier2871 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Carriers are complete bs. Wish they never put them in the game. Just ridiculous how un even the fight is when they get out in a mass amount. He was basically dead. Gets 4 Carriers and the game is over. Such bs

    • @utarian7
      @utarian7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Toss can only go carriers if they have an advantage or they get rushed and busted. Carriers is pretty much the only reliable way to beat 3/3/200 mech. Flash built his entire TvP by exploiting this by turtling like a shithead to 3/3/200 and constantly scanning for carriers or overexpansion to rush. Fortunately the meta evolved past that.

  • @Goose_BW
    @Goose_BW หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    😍😘

  • @Deck160ooo
    @Deck160ooo หลายเดือนก่อน

    JD wins! xD (at end)
    Great games and effort by Queen.