I just updated probably ten year old D-Link 720p and 480p cameras that just aren't supported anymore. I did some research and settled on Eufy going all in, mostly because of the reasons you gave for the Arlo subscription required for most of the functionality. The icing on the cake for me was seeing the four, 4k solar camera with Homebase 3 that holds a hard drive on Amazon for $639 new over the July 4 weekend. I also bought six of the 2k pan and tilt indoor cameras as well to monitor the home while I'm away. I plan on the home security sensors, keypad, and doorbell next. I'm very happy with their products for the last 2 weeks I've been using them. The question I have though is about Eufy. You didn't mention that Eufy offers a 24/7 monitoring option that is supposed to qualify for home insurance discounts. They offer two plans, for either $50 a year or $100 a year for the plus plan, which has the monitoring. Was there a reason you didn't cover the Eufy subscription for monitoring?
Bought Arlo Pro 3 from Arlo in June this year, superseded model so cheaper... I'm now going to ditch them, sick of the constant wifi interference. Tried a number of "fixes", nothing works. Pc will not connect to wifi at all any more, and TV's, phones, laptop and ipad periodically disconnect daily... and they're not all on at the same time. Gonna try Eufy 🤩
Not only is Arlo taking AWAY features in the software such as multiple custom zone configurations on multiple cameras, Eufy is continuously adding them. Arlo's development seems like it was offshored and put into maintenance mode.
Man ive been thinking about switching. Been using Arlo for 3 years now. I have the Secure plus plan. For some reason i always get some kind of interference. Especially when I need the camera the most for some reason its gets an interference and doesnt record.
I was an Arlo user for 5 years. Five Arlo Pro 2 HD cameras all with solar panels. Since they implemented an end of life for the products and stopped the free 7 day cloud storage. I bought the Eufy four pack S330 HB3 cameras with built in solar panels and lights. Increased the storage to 4 TB, even purchased an additional 2 Eufy Cam 3C’s. All in all i prefer Eufy. However, there some things the Arlo cams did that were slightly better. Arlo had motion and sound detection. Eufy only has motion detection. Arlo allowed 3 minutes of custom recording. Eufy with is much bigger battery only allows for 2 minutes custom recording. Speaking of batteries Arlo had removable, replaceable batteries. Eufy batteries are built in and cannot me replaced. The Arlo audio recordings where better. The speakers are bettter than Eufy cameras. Mind you these are cameras for over 6 years ago. However, Eufy has faster notifications and even still screenshots when it’s possible. In the end I prefer Eufy.
I also have both and just wanted to add to this comment . The s330 camera solar panel will delaminate after about a year or so. This needs to be addressed and updated since you may have to replace cameras every year or two at $150-$200 each. I think they are working on this already. I agree with everything in this above comment. Arlo with their End Of Life crap can piss off.
I har both systems at home. Arlo has better video quality and security access. But if your WiFi down and power outage. Eufy is only one survive and if you have solar panels it can records everything on build in storage even the WiFi is down . Just had hurricane hits, after that I change all Arlo to eufy. I have Arlo home base but no power no working.
Good eval and assessment of the camera & storage, but what about other devices and user controls? I'd like to know if water sensors, lights, electric plugs, etc. can be controlled from the hub. And really like to see an evaluation of the user app(s) - remotely turning devices on/off, schedules, arm & disarm, battery status, etc...
I really like those built-in solar panels on the Eufy... It's a pain having to charge these battery powered Arlo cameras. Also would love to get away from this subscription. Think I'll give Eufy a try.
They are great but the solar panel will delaminate and you will eventually replace the camera. Some quality issues as well. Some cameras will only last a year or 2. Specifically the s330.
There is an opportunity for a company to come up with an offer that overlaps these two companies. My big draw for Eufy was its S330 solar powered eufyCam and no subscription. With Arlo I would have had to link a separate solar panel something ungainly and would have ended up with a subscription. The drawbacks? I am missing Arlo's Apple compatibility and its ability to function as a proper CCTV system albeit I have no idea how good this is from Arlo. It is a tough choice and I made mine with some difficulty. At the end the thought of having another bill coming in every month was too much to bear and so a decision was taken. I note Eufy's offer for wi-fi free solar powered cams meaning one can place a cam anywhere in the planet where there is cellular phone signal and still no subscription something I believe Arlo doesn't offer.
Eufy solar panels delaminate after a year or so. Charging issues as well. Seem to last a year or 2 and at $200 a piece, they are expensive to keep replacing. Love the system though.
If people actually understood technology they would understand that the Eufy security concerns were unjust and exponentially blown out of proportion. 1). Access to a video stream via VLC involved an attacker having to have hacked into your network. In which case you have bigger issues. Also they would have needed to cobble together a URL for the camera. Also not an easy task. 2) Thumbnails to the cloud. This is how rich push notifications work for all apps. A user has the option to not have rich notifications, thus no thumbnail to the cloud.
How about TP-Link as an alternative? They seem to have local storage and also have a cloud service that you can subscribe to if you want but you don't have to.
Good call out, John! I've got the TP Link Tapo lineup in my sights for the coming months. Eufy definitely isn't the only local and cloud storage option out there.
I HATE that Arlo has changed all of its setup from Modes/Schedules (which were pretty easy to follow) to its new Routines/Automations (which Version 4.11 did NOT include instructions and is virtually impossible to follow).
Eufy cams are decent. I would suggest using a Homebase 3 with them because all your cams will connect wirelessly through that, and not over your home's wifi. Plus the extra storage and AI features are stored in Homebase. The solar cameras are great, with the solar panel built-in. I recently installed a Eufy S340, which is a rotating camera that tracks targets with 2 separate lenses (regular and wide angle.) simultaneously.
After getting Eufy pet cams a couple of years ago, I've been slowly shifting from Ring to Eufy. Eufy is easier to setup, control, and use. After a couple of nightmare setups with ring, that required an electrician, I'm done with ring. And, eufy's cameras seem to be better. I do realize that Eufys ease of use setup has left things a little less secure. I don't really care. I just want the ability to see who is on my yard. So, someone else may be able to tap in and see it too. who cares. Overall Eufy is quickly rising up the ranks, while the others seem to be paralyzed in their subscription services... and how to make more off of you from them. Pick Eufy.
I've had arlo for a while now and hate it. Still searching for a good camera. Does eufy's video have a few second delay when you do live view? Arlo always have a delay like it's live but as I'm watching the video, it'll show the person moving and as the person stop moving the video will still show them moving and it takes at least 6-8 seconds to get to the part where the person stop. So it's not really live. The only camera I noticed that really have a live accurate is wyze camera but then wyze doesn't have good angles in coverage and quality isn't the best. I would have to buy multiple camera to have good coverage in all angles.
Currently hardwired with a Honeywell/Vista panel setup. Are there any companies that make a homebase hub where I can wire in all my door/window relays instead of buying and maintaining all the wireless sensors?
Whatever arlo did recently rendered my 4 pro 2 cameras useless other than live viewing. No motion alerts or video capture. Tried a USB local storage and it doesn't work. Very disappointed.
If you do not buy the monthly fee, you have nothing? I had best buy set Arlo up, and now it records nothing? Did we get scammed to now pay a monthly bill for each camera(4)? Best Buy had told us you do not need the plan, when we were buying Arlo. The camera and door bell work great, but with no service we will take them all down and bring them back to BB.
With 20+ cameras scattered around home and garden, the main reason I still am with Arlo is I need smaller (less visible) cameras. Then I can't understand how you can live without replaceable batteries: when 4 cameras have low batteries i just change 4 batteries and i keep going. While with Eufy I have to move away 4 cameras for the whole charging time: unacceptable. All other specs are better for Eufy, so I don't know what to do.
@@NavaneethDevaraj Eufy s330 cam solar panel delaminates. This will cause life span and charging issues. They need to fix it. All 5 of my S330's are delaminating after 1-2 years.
Except their support is lackluster at best. I have the eufy Security eufyCam S330(eufyCam 3) 3-Cam Kit. The home base fan is going out causing a loud high pitched buffeting sound after only 5 months. Support has admitted that the unit is bad, and wants me to ship via usps to canada the home base. So I will have no access to cameras and doorbell now for what 2 weeks plus.. No cross shipping of a base when they already admitted it is defective is lack luster at best for a security product.
So sick of arlo. The final straw today was when a family member was on the property and called me to say he was there and waving at the camera. There are 4 cameras he walked directly, and horizontally in front of. No notification was sent to me because none of the arlo cameras detected any motion. He was on foot when passing the cameras. Usually they alert of animals walking around, or even a wasp flying close enough in front of the lens. Today, however, complete silence from the cameras motion sensors. I started live stream on one of them just to see if it would work at all, and it started live streaming like it should. All motion settings were the normal 80 level. Not very reassuring security system.
Arlo just launched a new software upgrade called the NEW EXPERIENCE. It f*cked my entire Arlo system I;m not offline everything deadf Arlo has always been a total pia but this software upgrade has broken me.
Got my set of four beautiful 4K 3C's along with HomeBase 3 from Amazon this last Friday. The quality is superb! I wish I was rich enough to take the Arlo's I bought at Costco last year to the back of the woodshed (e.g. Office Space), but alas a refund shall suffice.
Arlo is not a good security camera PERIOD...i wish i can return mine but im past the return window. I would not recommend this camera to anyone this camera has a ton of issues... 1) zones dont ever work properly 2) updates will mess up your cameras and you have to go through the process of resetting everything and re-syncing them REALLY TIME CONSUMING like 12-24 hours for the stupid thing to find itself 3) newer models does not record to your base station even with an SD card you NEED a subscription 5) does not record continuously even with someone in frame for 10 minutes it will record only the 1st 20 seconds 5) does not detect people on your property until theyre like 4 feet from the camera YOU CAN NOT PROTECT YOUR HOME IF THE CAMERA ONLY RECORDS THE 1ST 20 SECONDS OF A BURGLARY OR ONLY WHEN THE BURGLER IS 4 FT FROM THE CAMERA THIS CAMERA IS THE ABSOLUTE WORST PURCHASE IVE EVER MADE Save yourself the headache DO NOT BUY this camera
This only holds up when you use an online service free of charge. E.g. TH-cam ;) This alarm system is more akin to buy once, own forever*. *: Till shit breaks or stuff just gets too outdated.
I’d recommend switching to eufy I’ve been with arlo for over 4 years over 2k invested and they are an absolute joke I’d recommend starting low then building your system up I plan on dumping my arlo system by December this year and going to eufy
Yeah I’ll go with Chinese company and ditch the greedy american corporate mentallity all at once. Eufy doesn’t require subscription at all period end of the line. I’ll support them!
Really upset with Arlo and their end of service stopping supporting camera's and then suspiciously 2 months later all 4 of my camera's stopped working showing 0 battery with fully charged batteries had batteries check they are fine but a friend saw this before it's not a battery issue it's a built in software problem and surprise they no longer have support . Built in obsolescence????
I just updated probably ten year old D-Link 720p and 480p cameras that just aren't supported anymore. I did some research and settled on Eufy going all in, mostly because of the reasons you gave for the Arlo subscription required for most of the functionality.
The icing on the cake for me was seeing the four, 4k solar camera with Homebase 3 that holds a hard drive on Amazon for $639 new over the July 4 weekend. I also bought six of the 2k pan and tilt indoor cameras as well to monitor the home while I'm away. I plan on the home security sensors, keypad, and doorbell next. I'm very happy with their products for the last 2 weeks I've been using them.
The question I have though is about Eufy. You didn't mention that Eufy offers a 24/7 monitoring option that is supposed to qualify for home insurance discounts. They offer two plans, for either $50 a year or $100 a year for the plus plan, which has the monitoring. Was there a reason you didn't cover the Eufy subscription for monitoring?
Bought Arlo Pro 3 from Arlo in June this year, superseded model so cheaper... I'm now going to ditch them, sick of the constant wifi interference. Tried a number of "fixes", nothing works. Pc will not connect to wifi at all any more, and TV's, phones, laptop and ipad periodically disconnect daily... and they're not all on at the same time. Gonna try Eufy 🤩
Team eufy for the last 3 years and super duper happy 😊
Been recommending eufy to all my friends and relatives and they love it 👍👌.
thanksn for your advertisement
Been using Eufy for 3 years now , recently upgraded them to 4k .
Team Eufy no doubt about it. No subscription is my main drawcard
Not only is Arlo taking AWAY features in the software such as multiple custom zone configurations on multiple cameras, Eufy is continuously adding them. Arlo's development seems like it was offshored and put into maintenance mode.
Man ive been thinking about switching. Been using Arlo for 3 years now. I have the Secure plus plan. For some reason i always get some kind of interference. Especially when I need the camera the most for some reason its gets an interference and doesnt record.
I was an Arlo user for 5 years. Five Arlo Pro 2 HD cameras all with solar panels. Since they implemented an end of life for the products and stopped the free 7 day cloud storage. I bought the Eufy four pack S330 HB3 cameras with built in solar panels and lights. Increased the storage to 4 TB, even purchased an additional 2 Eufy Cam 3C’s. All in all i prefer Eufy. However, there some things the Arlo cams did that were slightly better. Arlo had motion and sound detection. Eufy only has motion detection. Arlo allowed 3 minutes of custom recording. Eufy with is much bigger battery only allows for 2 minutes custom recording. Speaking of batteries Arlo had removable, replaceable batteries. Eufy batteries are built in and cannot me replaced. The Arlo audio recordings where better. The speakers are bettter than Eufy cameras. Mind you these are cameras for over 6 years ago. However, Eufy has faster notifications and even still screenshots when it’s possible. In the end I prefer Eufy.
I also have both and just wanted to add to this comment . The s330 camera solar panel will delaminate after about a year or so. This needs to be addressed and updated since you may have to replace cameras every year or two at $150-$200 each. I think they are working on this already. I agree with everything in this above comment. Arlo with their End Of Life crap can piss off.
I har both systems at home. Arlo has better video quality and security access. But if your WiFi down and power outage. Eufy is only one survive and if you have solar panels it can records everything on build in storage even the WiFi is down . Just had hurricane hits, after that I change all Arlo to eufy. I have Arlo home base but no power no working.
As I look at options to switch to local storage, this is helpful. Thanks.
Good eval and assessment of the camera & storage, but what about other devices and user controls? I'd like to know if water sensors, lights, electric plugs, etc. can be controlled from the hub. And really like to see an evaluation of the user app(s) - remotely turning devices on/off, schedules, arm & disarm, battery status, etc...
I really like those built-in solar panels on the Eufy... It's a pain having to charge these battery powered Arlo cameras. Also would love to get away from this subscription. Think I'll give Eufy a try.
They are great but the solar panel will delaminate and you will eventually replace the camera. Some quality issues as well. Some cameras will only last a year or 2. Specifically the s330.
There is an opportunity for a company to come up with an offer that overlaps these two companies. My big draw for Eufy was its S330 solar powered eufyCam and no subscription. With Arlo I would have had to link a separate solar panel something ungainly and would have ended up with a subscription. The drawbacks? I am missing Arlo's Apple compatibility and its ability to function as a proper CCTV system albeit I have no idea how good this is from Arlo. It is a tough choice and I made mine with some difficulty. At the end the thought of having another bill coming in every month was too much to bear and so a decision was taken. I note Eufy's offer for wi-fi free solar powered cams meaning one can place a cam anywhere in the planet where there is cellular phone signal and still no subscription something I believe Arlo doesn't offer.
Is cloud storage free?
Eufy solar panels delaminate after a year or so. Charging issues as well. Seem to last a year or 2 and at $200 a piece, they are expensive to keep replacing. Love the system though.
If people actually understood technology they would understand that the Eufy security concerns were unjust and exponentially blown out of proportion.
1). Access to a video stream via VLC involved an attacker having to have hacked into your network. In which case you have bigger issues. Also they would have needed to cobble together a URL for the camera. Also not an easy task.
2) Thumbnails to the cloud. This is how rich push notifications work for all apps. A user has the option to not have rich notifications, thus no thumbnail to the cloud.
@@visionit2007 thanks for telling me I'm wrong and absolutely nothing else. Very helpful
@@visionit2007 Actually They Are Very Correct. Every Camera Has Flaws And All Use Servers If Their Is An App.
@@visionit2007If you are actually who you say you are, why are you not on your account that made the original video? Wouldn’t that prove more?
@@visionit2007I Will Also Continue To Use My Eufy Cams. They Now Are More Clear About What Is Being Done.
@@CaydenThyGamer I have multiple accounts. To be honest, I wasn't aware YT had switched to an old one. Apologies.
How about TP-Link as an alternative? They seem to have local storage and also have a cloud service that you can subscribe to if you want but you don't have to.
Good call out, John! I've got the TP Link Tapo lineup in my sights for the coming months. Eufy definitely isn't the only local and cloud storage option out there.
I HATE that Arlo has changed all of its setup from Modes/Schedules (which were pretty easy to follow) to its new Routines/Automations (which Version 4.11 did NOT include instructions and is virtually impossible to follow).
Eufy cams are decent. I would suggest using a Homebase 3 with them because all your cams will connect wirelessly through that, and not over your home's wifi. Plus the extra storage and AI features are stored in Homebase. The solar cameras are great, with the solar panel built-in. I recently installed a Eufy S340, which is a rotating camera that tracks targets with 2 separate lenses (regular and wide angle.) simultaneously.
We’d be pretty gullible to think Eufy won’t go the subscription way like all the others.
I hate the Arlo subscription. I have 9 Arlo cameras on property and I am thinking about switching ASAP.
Highly recommend that you do. I just did.
After getting Eufy pet cams a couple of years ago, I've been slowly shifting from Ring to Eufy. Eufy is easier to setup, control, and use. After a couple of nightmare setups with ring, that required an electrician, I'm done with ring. And, eufy's cameras seem to be better. I do realize that Eufys ease of use setup has left things a little less secure. I don't really care. I just want the ability to see who is on my yard. So, someone else may be able to tap in and see it too. who cares. Overall Eufy is quickly rising up the ranks, while the others seem to be paralyzed in their subscription services... and how to make more off of you from them. Pick Eufy.
I've had arlo for a while now and hate it. Still searching for a good camera. Does eufy's video have a few second delay when you do live view? Arlo always have a delay like it's live but as I'm watching the video, it'll show the person moving and as the person stop moving the video will still show them moving and it takes at least 6-8 seconds to get to the part where the person stop. So it's not really live. The only camera I noticed that really have a live accurate is wyze camera but then wyze doesn't have good angles in coverage and quality isn't the best. I would have to buy multiple camera to have good coverage in all angles.
Currently hardwired with a Honeywell/Vista panel setup. Are there any companies that make a homebase hub where I can wire in all my door/window relays instead of buying and maintaining all the wireless sensors?
Whatever arlo did recently rendered my 4 pro 2 cameras useless other than live viewing. No motion alerts or video capture. Tried a USB local storage and it doesn't work. Very disappointed.
Been yousing eufy for 4yers, no complains at all
If you do not buy the monthly fee, you have nothing? I had best buy set Arlo up, and now it records nothing?
Did we get scammed to now pay a monthly bill for each camera(4)? Best Buy had told us you do not need the plan, when we were buying Arlo. The camera and door bell work great, but with no service we will take them all down and bring them back to BB.
Same here. No disclaimer that Arlo camera would not function w/o subscription. Can you say SCAM!
With 20+ cameras scattered around home and garden, the main reason I still am with Arlo is I need smaller (less visible) cameras. Then I can't understand how you can live without replaceable batteries: when 4 cameras have low batteries i just change 4 batteries and i keep going. While with Eufy I have to move away 4 cameras for the whole charging time: unacceptable.
All other specs are better for Eufy, so I don't know what to do.
how about solar for eufy or new solar Eufy cams? Eufy also coming up with wired 4k cams
@@NavaneethDevaraj Eufy s330 cam solar panel delaminates. This will cause life span and charging issues. They need to fix it. All 5 of my S330's are delaminating after 1-2 years.
I hate Arlo subscription but Eufy is owned by a private Chinese company, Anker. Think about privacy before you choose. Maybe other brands like Google?
Bot.
Except their support is lackluster at best. I have the eufy Security eufyCam S330(eufyCam 3) 3-Cam Kit. The home base fan is going out causing a loud high pitched buffeting sound after only 5 months. Support has admitted that the unit is bad, and wants me to ship via usps to canada the home base. So I will have no access to cameras and doorbell now for what 2 weeks plus.. No cross shipping of a base when they already admitted it is defective is lack luster at best for a security product.
Arlo is WORSE, trust me!
Simply because Arlo's app is trash the camera is fine but the app does not work over 50% of the time
Thank you Arlo for no longer supporting my cameras 😞. So it's time to switch to Eufy 🙂
I feel like Arlo misses stuff....but o have 3 different brands at my house...
TEAM EUFY ALL THE WAY!
So sick of arlo. The final straw today was when a family member was on the property and called me to say he was there and waving at the camera. There are 4 cameras he walked directly, and horizontally in front of. No notification was sent to me because none of the arlo cameras detected any motion. He was on foot when passing the cameras. Usually they alert of animals walking around, or even a wasp flying close enough in front of the lens. Today, however, complete silence from the cameras motion sensors. I started live stream on one of them just to see if it would work at all, and it started live streaming like it should. All motion settings were the normal 80 level. Not very reassuring security system.
just be aware that eufy is from China
Tbh american companies are just as bad with your data. Any cloud storage is shady
Just be aware of your mouth
And?
@@wilsonlee5590how’s your sister Ana?
Asking ChatGPT ; Arlo made China!
Arlo just launched a new software upgrade called the NEW EXPERIENCE. It f*cked my entire Arlo system I;m not offline everything deadf Arlo has always been a total pia but this software upgrade has broken me.
Throw you Arlo AWAY!!!
Got my set of four beautiful 4K 3C's along with HomeBase 3 from Amazon this last Friday. The quality is superb! I wish I was rich enough to take the Arlo's I bought at Costco last year to the back of the woodshed (e.g. Office Space), but alas a refund shall suffice.
Arlo is not a good security camera PERIOD...i wish i can return mine but im past the return window. I would not recommend this camera to anyone this camera has a ton of issues...
1) zones dont ever work properly
2) updates will mess up your cameras and you have to go through the process of resetting everything and re-syncing them REALLY TIME CONSUMING like 12-24 hours for the stupid thing to find itself
3) newer models does not record to your base station even with an SD card you NEED a subscription
5) does not record continuously even with someone in frame for 10 minutes it will record only the 1st 20 seconds
5) does not detect people on your property until theyre like 4 feet from the camera
YOU CAN NOT PROTECT YOUR HOME IF THE CAMERA ONLY RECORDS THE 1ST 20 SECONDS OF A BURGLARY OR ONLY WHEN THE BURGLER IS 4 FT FROM THE CAMERA
THIS CAMERA IS THE ABSOLUTE WORST PURCHASE IVE EVER MADE
Save yourself the headache DO NOT BUY this camera
Arlo is junk. Crashes often. No support.
Eufy says "No Clouds or Costs" ....No costs because guess what? That means YOU are the product. It's like free ad-blocker software lol
the f lol. You’re never the product with free adblock software?
This only holds up when you use an online service free of charge. E.g. TH-cam ;) This alarm system is more akin to buy once, own forever*.
*: Till shit breaks or stuff just gets too outdated.
I’m on Team Arlo because I just bought a four unit 4k set from Costco on sale for $279. 😅
I’d recommend switching to eufy I’ve been with arlo for over 4 years over 2k invested and they are an absolute joke
I’d recommend starting low then building your system up
I plan on dumping my arlo system by December this year and going to eufy
Arlo cameras and app leave a bit to be desired. And their service after the is absolutely garbage.
Complete piss poor company.
I hated eufy. Set it up and took it back.
Yeah I’ll go with Chinese company and ditch the greedy american corporate mentallity all at once. Eufy doesn’t require subscription at all period end of the line. I’ll support them!
Arlo Terrible
Arlo SUCKS!!!!!
Eufy is made in China, security risk.
@EsaiasP Apple and Android are made in China
@@Redridge07 the post was made by a Bot.
@@occam5375 Eufy products are made in China. Eufy is a sub of Anker product.
Really upset with Arlo and their end of service stopping supporting camera's and then suspiciously 2 months later all 4 of my camera's stopped working showing 0 battery with fully charged batteries had batteries check they are fine but a friend saw this before it's not a battery issue it's a built in software problem and surprise they no longer have support . Built in obsolescence????