When I used to work in reman ammo, we used SMP-735 or WC844- canister versions of H335... in all of our testing with different AR’s, 25.5 grains with a 55 grain Armscore seated to 2.230” was the magic load. Shot consistent MOA groups out of multiple guns. Take it for what it’s worth.
I love this series. I had always been taught that the shorter the jump to the lands, the more accurate your rounds would be. I have always "cheated" to the long side with my reloads. You have disproved my "common wisdom". Back to the drawing board.
Johnny... I think your .223 shootout video series is an excellent learning experience for those looking for a starting point. However, the shooter (viewer) has to bare in mind that all individual rifle set up configuration will ultimately decide what works best in each weapon. As we all know that these test will inevitably perform differently in each configuration. Two thumbs up. Shoot lots and stay safe.
Great content. Eliminating one variable at a time. I use your "craptastic" meter to gauge my reloading habits. I know my results may vary but, you provide excellent starting points. Thanks again for saving me time and money.
Johnny, I believe it is just what you said at the close of this video. "Your Rifle set up" and I do not believe getting another rifle with the same barrel would be cost-effective. I believe that the viewer should take these tests as "Potentially most accurate loadings" instead of Brass on the table say all win all loadings in all rifles. This is the reason Hand-loading is so important to Match shooters. a barrel can and will change as the erosion and ware in the barrel progress. I like how you are going about this though. as there is no real brand name, Just low-cost bullets being squeezed for what they and do. Keep up the good work dude.
I haven’t had much luck with H335 either. Once the can I have is gone, I don’t plan on buying it again. Too many better options in my experience. Great video! Keep up the good work!
That is about what I got out of H335 with my 18" SS DD 5.56 barrel and a 16" Bear Creek Arsenal barrel, both 1:7 twist. That jug is at the bottom of my supply chest now.
I've had excellent luck with h335 for 55g vmax loaded at 25g out of 1:9 twist barrels. So much that it's the only powder I use for 223/556 with bullets in that weight. RRA coyote carbine, and another Wilson upper gun. Both 16" barrels. Oal was straight out of Hornady manual
So I’ve really enjoyed your videos. I find the videos that show a ladder test way more useful than a video like this where you are picking one powder charge and testing multiple bullets. Not sure this video shows anything except your Rifle doesn’t like 25gr of H335 with 55’s at the two seating depths. Personally, I have recently been using the “10 round load development ladder test”. For me it’s been a huge time saver. Good luck and thanks.
It would but it doesn't apply to AR shooters at all and the vast bulk of .223 shooters are AR shooters. If I had a .223 bolt, i wouldnt waste my time with bulk ammo.....ya know?
@@chardeemacdennis2electricb329 haha....i've rewatched most off his videos a few times just encase i missed anything. Learned a lot. Shoot sub half inch MOA because of this channel.
Good work Mr. Bench! Except for I just bought a pound of H335. Sierra recommends 25.2 grains as their “accuracy” load with their 65 grain Game Kings. These are NOT inexpensive bullets, but we’ll see what I get out of them. I loaded a ladder test-.5 grain increments starting at 24.2 up to 25.6. I’ve got an 18 inch heavy fluted 223 Wylde barrel from Classic Firearms. Ready to get to the range!
Great series. Like you I'm a bit disappointed in the SDs and some of the groups you're getting. I don't have any suggestions beyond perhaps a little tighter crimp on the cannelure OALs. Your set up looks good and the ammo pictures you've shown look perfect. I've been running Bob's and Tac with some success but mainly at 3 Gun distances. I don't know but this series is gold for competitive shooters. Thanks Johnny.
standard primers with 26.5 gr. of H335 with an OACL of 2.260". When I chronographed this load alongside Federal XM193 ammo, the federal was 3,138 fps avg. and my new load with these G.D. bullets clocked 3,158 fps .
@@TheLibertyCompanyLLC ya and the point is? You can shoot them out of a .223 Remington bolt action rifle as well. Speed varies by barrel lengths and can or no can added. If I remember correctly the everglades are General dynamics bullets I get them from two different suppliers.
@@adamlong54 ar 15 limits your coal to 2.260. In fact I don’t even know how you’re getting them that long with a 55 gr bullet. I’ve seen .308 rounds 2.77-2.81.
I think we're about to find out. His annealed brass from MoparMadMan should be in his hands any day now. But, this was only once fired brass and shouldn't have been an issue.
May be but at the beginning of the video he shows us that he haved switch the batch off brass, they are once fired so i don't think that's the issue there. In my mind the problem should be a crimp issue or a primer/powder combo problem. But you can have right and the brass could be to hard from the factory. However starline seems to be good they have done well in the past videos.
Good vid JRB. That first Hornady group looks like it would have been a 1/2” with out the one shot that was a Flyer. That group looked like it was trying to group vs the others. So many people run 25.0 grains of H335 with Hornady 55FMJ, it seems to be a good plinking load. But yes better options out there for accuracy. Ever shot the Hornady 55grain SP? Many people report better accuracy with those and they are around the same price as Hornadys FMJ’s. Keep up the great vids.
I love H335, but in a completely different setup. Remington 700 26” varmint barrel with 52gr Sierra match kings gives .350 inch groups center to center.
I have come to not expect too much out of my AR with the 55gr. Hornady. I had some decent results with H322, but I'm going to try H335 and see. Either one meters well so we will see. I'm hovering at around an inch and a half at 100 yards for 5 shots, but I did have one load that shot a standard deviation of 6.2!
You know more about this stuff than I do. But, you may try shooting groups with the same set up without the surpresser and chronograph. Then add the surpresser and shoot a set, then add the chronograph and shoot a group. It may be a combined malfunction that only will show up that way. It may give you a new look at what is happening.
I shoot a lot of h335 and have a very similar setup to yours. My rifle seems to like somewhat lower velocities, around 2800ish at around 23.1-24.0gr of the h335.
@@slotcarfan I have found pretty much the same results. I fnd a deal for the Hornady 55g bullets and match grade primers, so that is what I used for my recipes. I tried several different powers at several different loads. Anyway one recipes that works very well for me. That is 25.3g of H335, with a velocity of around 3050. It has worked out as an accurate rnd for me.
Ive been shooting a crap ton of hornady 55 FMj lately because that's all I have a lot of. 27.2gr of BLC-2 shoots great out of a 20" and a 16" with a Wilde or nato chamber. No pressure with Ball-C till over 28gr in my stuff, give the old hated BLC2 a go, start somewhere below my load tho.
Sometime will you do some tests with WC844 military powder? I keep hearing that it is similar to H335. I would love to see a Johnny's Reloading Bench comparison. Thanks for your videos.
You should test H-322 in this Series it’s an extreme powder and very small sticks. It meters very well in a powder measure. I’ve had very good luck with it in 223. It’s my go to 223 powder.
I had disappointing results with H322 and the Bobs' bullet, but I will definitely add it to the list for this series. I found it to be extremely clean burning! I'd like to see how the Hornady and Everglades do with it. Thanks for the recommendation!
Overall those lapua bullets don't seems to be worth the money, or may be they don't like to be crimped( it also could be the issue with the crappy SD)? I ´ve seen that you wanted to swap those, may be the sierra 55gr fmj could be worthed a try, but i don't know if the price could be comparable. Also how is this Larue trigger?
I don't think this was a fair review of Lapua 55 grain FMJ. I bought a lot of 1000 on sale and based on this review I thought I had been had! I am shooting a Remington 700 chambered in 222 remington Magnum. I loaded only three 26.5 gr H335 with a .010 inch jump. I anticipated returning the 997 remaining bullets.The group was .2 inches clover leaf. I think you need to revisit your seating depth.
Don't think those Lapua bullets are made to shoot in an AR platform, I've shot them in a Rem. 700, 24 " stainless Barrel with a 12 twist and they shoot 0.5 Moa.
See if there is a correlation with bullet roundness. Use a real micrometer, not a caliper. My Sierra bullets all mike less than .0001 out of round, but most other brands are up to .0005 out of round. I was having fliers with one brand of bullet until I pushed them through a Lee sizer. Made three passes until I could not mike any out of round, and the fliers went away.
Ah, cheap bullets give cheap results. Might I get better groups by sorting them to roundness? Maybe, but what is the reason? I'm not trying to get my Hornady's to shoot 500 yards in the X ring. I just want a cheap bullet that will make a hole in something when laying the bump fire stock to it. :D
In your case anything will work as long as it does not gum up the works. In my case I am retired on limited funds, so I am willing to put labor into the process and still enjoy my hobby. To each his own I guess.
Bottom line....handloading can be maddening! lol. Select some components, test in your rifle/barrel until you widdle it down to what your rifle likes. Bullet, seating depth, brass, primers, powders, etc.....ton of bench time and range time to figure it out. Have fun!
Yeah, no thank you for H335 with your setup. It might work with a different barrel or twist. I would be curious to know if anyone has had good results, because I have some H335 that I was told is a good powder for my lead cast powder coat Lee .312 160gr bullets in 300blk and 308win
Using #41 primers, your never going to see low SD. They're intended to ignite reliably everytime so they're extra hot but inconsistantly extra hot. It's a good primer for plickimg ammo however so go with the load that gets you the best group.....rather then SD. it's not precision ammo. You'll never get better without match primers.
I've had very good luck with H335 with a 55gr Nosler Varmagedon (same thing as Hornady Vmax) and Sierra 69gr smk. I went through the same thing as you, you can't expect to get match grade accuracy out of inexpensive bulk bullets. On another note, how's the 224 Valkyrie coming, did you buy any barrels?
I bought 5,000 brown tip frangible 50 grain 5.56 bullets and have been loading 25 grain of H335. 23 grain cycles all ARs tested but was short stroking the AUG so I loaded 25 grain and is fine. Not going for accuracy, going for combat practice ammo. If I want accuracy I use something else.
Jrb I shot a one hole 5 shot group with everglades and tried to reproduce it with 100 rounds and they shot just over an inch it was with bl-c 2 but never did reproduce an awesome group... know vid is old and everything still made a great plinker load though;-
Johnny's Reloading Bench also, I'm not surprised about the Lapua groups in this video. I've never had the 55gr fmj shoot well with a ball/spherical powder.
I really like h335 in 5.56 with the 77gr smk, with or without the cannelure. It also works great in 308 win. with 200gr. Match Kings. Gotta love a multi-tasker. Lyman data on both.
I got a ? For u man I just started reloading 45 acp with titegroup and when I shoot my reloads it feels like I'm getting sand thrown in my face with every pull of the trigger should I switch powder?? If so anY 1 got any idea of a good powder to get ? Thanks
craftsman89 d unburnt powder is usually caused by too light of a load, or not enough crimp (or too slow of a powder but that’s not your issue here), also, I can’t recommend the Lee factory crimp die enough if you don’t already have one, I use them for ALL of my semi auto firearm reloads
Try increasing your crimp slightly and see if it helps. If you have a bullet puller try pulling one afterwards to check for damage in the plating. A magnifying glass is helpful. A little seam or line created by the crimp is fine just as long as you aren't breaking through.
That's what I was wondering. Just guessing the data would be a rather reckless thing to do. Folks get away with that sort of behavior until their expensive rifle blows to bits. I'd guess he consulted the bullet mfr. for proper data. Eyesight is worth the phone call.
@@uraniumpenetrator3844 Yes Johnny did all of that in previous videos. These are the ones that shot best from the manual after a ladder test. Now some experimenting with longer lengths. Which is safe unless jambing into the lands. Then you may run pressure up. Keep in mind I a just a keyboard warrior but Dec./Jan. Shooting Times magazine demonstrated this extremely well with 9mm pistol rounds. In their demo just a couple of tenths over max sent pressures way up, but lengthing made it safe with max loading thus lowering pressure but reducing velocity. They were demonstrating velocity vs. pressure in 9mm. Keep in mind you can't just decide to run under a published load either. That can lead to to much air space in the case which can cause the powder to all ignite at once which would be an explosion OVERPRESSURE! and not a controlled burn. Sorry don't mean to preach but there are probably new people to this experience every day who need to hear this.
Watched several of your videos. Ithink all that crap hanging on the end of the barrel isn't helping accuracy. The real world won't find a magneto hanging. The can also will not help. Real world experience personal test have shown the can usually hurts. Keep working on it !
It feels excellent! It doesn't feel heavy at all and it breaks nice and clean. This video doesn't show it, but I've shot some pretty good groups with it already. Tomorrow's 6.5 Grendel video will be a better indication. :)
I would love to. I've been using AA2520 so much that I worry about making too many videos with it. It has become a favorite of mine! I haven't done any tests with it and lighter bullets though, so I think I will add it to this series.
Im seeing people recommend using small pistol primers in place of small rifle primers online. Sounds like a bad idea to me but in these tough times with bare shelves, will it work safely?
I like IMR 4064 have not tried it in any of my Rem 223 Loads but in my Rem 22/250 it covers a dime with bullets in the 50-55 gr's out to 200 yds deadly on Coyotes, But I Want to try it in my Rem 223 also, Thanks Moose.
This is cool trying to split the hairs on a nats ass. But let's remember that an AR shooting 1 to 2 moa out to 300 yds is all u ever going to need. Fun tho threading the needle with an AR.
I swore my 55gr with H335 pet loaf was 25.5gr out of my 16 grow upper. But I lost my dam loading data. And everyone swears by the 25.0gr as a solid pet node. I guess todays batch is going to be 25.0gr... I wish I could find my old data. I SWORE it was a 25.5gr load. Swore it 😂
When I used to work in reman ammo, we used SMP-735 or WC844- canister versions of H335... in all of our testing with different AR’s, 25.5 grains with a 55 grain Armscore seated to 2.230” was the magic load. Shot consistent MOA groups out of multiple guns.
Take it for what it’s worth.
That's good info there especially if you're looking for good all around plinking recipe which I am now. Too bad I don't have any H335 handy.
I love this series. I had always been taught that the shorter the jump to the lands, the more accurate your rounds would be. I have always "cheated" to the long side with my reloads. You have disproved my "common wisdom". Back to the drawing board.
Johnny... I think your .223 shootout video series is an excellent learning experience for those looking for a starting point. However, the shooter (viewer) has to bare in mind that all individual rifle set up configuration will ultimately decide what works best in each weapon. As we all know that these test will inevitably perform differently in each configuration. Two thumbs up. Shoot lots and stay safe.
Great content. Eliminating one variable at a time. I use your "craptastic" meter to gauge my reloading habits. I know my results may vary but, you provide excellent starting points. Thanks again for saving me time and money.
Johnny, I believe it is just what you said at the close of this video. "Your Rifle set up" and I do not believe getting another rifle with the same barrel would be cost-effective. I believe that the viewer should take these tests as "Potentially most accurate loadings" instead of Brass on the table say all win all loadings in all rifles. This is the reason Hand-loading is so important to Match shooters. a barrel can and will change as the erosion and ware in the barrel progress. I like how you are going about this though. as there is no real brand name, Just low-cost bullets being squeezed for what they and do. Keep up the good work dude.
I haven’t had much luck with H335 either. Once the can I have is gone, I don’t plan on buying it again. Too many better options in my experience. Great video! Keep up the good work!
Dgunnut I must have a bad batch of H335. It is short cycling in my rifle. The first bottle of it ran fine.
That is about what I got out of H335 with my 18" SS DD 5.56 barrel and a 16" Bear Creek Arsenal barrel, both 1:7 twist. That jug is at the bottom of my supply chest now.
I've had excellent luck with h335 for 55g vmax loaded at 25g out of 1:9 twist barrels. So much that it's the only powder I use for 223/556 with bullets in that weight. RRA coyote carbine, and another Wilson upper gun. Both 16" barrels. Oal was straight out of Hornady manual
So I’ve really enjoyed your videos. I find the videos that show a ladder test way more useful than a video like this where you are picking one powder charge and testing multiple bullets. Not sure this video shows anything except your Rifle doesn’t like 25gr of H335 with 55’s at the two seating depths. Personally, I have recently been using the “10 round load development ladder test”. For me it’s been a huge time saver. Good luck and thanks.
This is the exact kind of content I've been looking for to help me with economy Ammo thank you
Watching older videos because I'm missing some new ones :D
I think using a high quality bolt gun would take these tests to the next level :)
Only if that's what you're going to be shooting with!
Not very realistic. If you’re going to buy a high quality bolt gun you’re better served not going with .223 rem
It would but it doesn't apply to AR shooters at all and the vast bulk of .223 shooters are AR shooters. If I had a .223 bolt, i wouldnt waste my time with bulk ammo.....ya know?
@@smallcityhomesteaders1600 yea. Three years have gone by and I take my comment back lol This channel is incredible. Almost addictive
@@chardeemacdennis2electricb329 haha....i've rewatched most off his videos a few times just encase i missed anything. Learned a lot. Shoot sub half inch MOA because of this channel.
Always a great video
Good work Mr. Bench! Except for I just bought a pound of H335. Sierra recommends 25.2 grains as their “accuracy” load with their 65 grain Game Kings. These are NOT inexpensive bullets, but we’ll see what I get out of them. I loaded a ladder test-.5 grain increments starting at 24.2 up to 25.6. I’ve got an 18 inch heavy fluted 223 Wylde barrel from Classic Firearms. Ready to get to the range!
Id be curious how this goes for you. I have a similar set up it sounds like. Ive been chasing groups constantly.
Great series. Like you I'm a bit disappointed in the SDs and some of the groups you're getting. I don't have any suggestions beyond perhaps a little tighter crimp on the cannelure OALs. Your set up looks good and the ammo pictures you've shown look perfect. I've been running Bob's and Tac with some success but mainly at 3 Gun distances. I don't know but this series is gold for competitive shooters. Thanks Johnny.
standard primers with 26.5 gr. of H335 with an OACL of 2.260". When I chronographed this load alongside Federal XM193 ammo, the federal was 3,138 fps avg. and my new load with these G.D. bullets clocked 3,158 fps .
He’s shooting these out of an ar 15
@@TheLibertyCompanyLLC ya and the point is? You can shoot them out of a .223 Remington bolt action rifle as well. Speed varies by barrel lengths and can or no can added. If I remember correctly the everglades are General dynamics bullets I get them from two different suppliers.
@@adamlong54 ar 15 limits your coal to 2.260. In fact I don’t even know how you’re getting them that long with a 55 gr bullet. I’ve seen .308 rounds 2.77-2.81.
@@TheLibertyCompanyLLC your right I'm wrong typo brother they are just under magazine length
You're right about annealing. Brass is evidently work hardened. You need an annealer! Makes for consistent neck tension and lowers SD's.
I think we're about to find out. His annealed brass from MoparMadMan should be in his hands any day now. But, this was only once fired brass and shouldn't have been an issue.
May be but at the beginning of the video he shows us that he haved switch the batch off brass, they are once fired so i don't think that's the issue there. In my mind the problem should be a crimp issue or a primer/powder combo problem.
But you can have right and the brass could be to hard from the factory. However starline seems to be good they have done well in the past videos.
Yup I had my timeline out of context in that comment. Glad hes getting an annealing machine!
Yes My timeline was not in context. I missed that! Good catch.
Good vid JRB. That first Hornady group looks like it would have been a 1/2” with out the one shot that was a Flyer. That group looked like it was trying to group vs the others.
So many people run 25.0 grains of H335 with Hornady 55FMJ, it seems to be a good plinking load. But yes better options out there for accuracy.
Ever shot the Hornady 55grain SP? Many people report better accuracy with those and they are around the same price as Hornadys FMJ’s.
Keep up the great vids.
I love H335, but in a completely different setup. Remington 700 26” varmint barrel with 52gr Sierra match kings gives .350 inch groups center to center.
I have come to not expect too much out of my AR with the 55gr. Hornady. I had some decent results with H322, but I'm going to try H335 and see. Either one meters well so we will see. I'm hovering at around an inch and a half at 100 yards for 5 shots, but I did have one load that shot a standard deviation of 6.2!
You know more about this stuff than I do. But, you may try shooting groups with the same set up without the surpresser and chronograph. Then add the surpresser and shoot a set, then add the chronograph and shoot a group. It may be a combined malfunction that only will show up that way. It may give you a new look at what is happening.
I've done that test many times in a bunch of videos. The suppressor and chronograph don't really made any difference with this particular barrel.
Hornady looks like the winner to me. (overall across all 3 parts)
I shoot a lot of h335 and have a very similar setup to yours. My rifle seems to like somewhat lower velocities, around 2800ish at around 23.1-24.0gr of the h335.
22.9gr and Hornady 55gr Fmj, Win primer, 2.2 oal shoots 1 moa with my 16" 1:9 twist M4.
@@slotcarfan I have found pretty much the same results. I fnd a deal for the Hornady 55g bullets and match grade primers, so that is what I used for my recipes. I tried several different powers at several different loads. Anyway one recipes that works very well for me. That is 25.3g of H335, with a velocity of around 3050. It has worked out as an accurate rnd for me.
28 gr of h335 does slightly under 1 moa in my AR
With the h335 you should use magnum primers. I use the Winchester primers and am sub moa with 24.4gr
Ive been shooting a crap ton of hornady 55 FMj lately because that's all I have a lot of. 27.2gr of BLC-2 shoots great out of a 20" and a 16" with a Wilde or nato chamber. No pressure with Ball-C till over 28gr in my stuff, give the old hated BLC2 a go, start somewhere below my load tho.
My question is why do people (myself included) expect sub moa ou of an AR? I feel like it was never ever ever designed be sub moa... or was it?
All about adjustments. So many variables
The Campro .223 Bullets are interesting aswell. Would be cool if you could test them
Sometime will you do some tests with WC844 military powder? I keep hearing that it is similar to H335. I would love to see a Johnny's Reloading Bench comparison. Thanks for your videos.
I’d like to see this, too. I use H335, and WC844 when I can get it. I don’t see a difference between the two. I would still enjoy seeing the video.
Try mag primers. My old Hodgdon manual calls for them and I believe my Speer does too with this powder.
You should test H-322 in this Series it’s an extreme powder and very small sticks. It meters very well in a powder measure. I’ve had very good luck with it in 223. It’s my go to 223 powder.
Agreed with the 322. My favorite powder with Winchester primers.
I had disappointing results with H322 and the Bobs' bullet, but I will definitely add it to the list for this series. I found it to be extremely clean burning! I'd like to see how the Hornady and Everglades do with it. Thanks for the recommendation!
Hey @johnny'sreloadingbench Id like to see H4895 thrown on the list for this series if you think it'd be a good fit.
That is odd you should try CCI 400’s. I run it in my Faxon 14.5 with 55gr. Up to 75gr. With any function issues.
Overall those lapua bullets don't seems to be worth the money, or may be they don't like to be crimped( it also could be the issue with the crappy SD)? I ´ve seen that you wanted to swap those, may be the sierra 55gr fmj could be worthed a try, but i don't know if the price could be comparable.
Also how is this Larue trigger?
try 24.5 gr. mine shoots moa or sub with 24.5. don't need to be 3k fps or better to shoot well. plus it saves powder, barrel life etc.
Hope you are doing well!
I don't think this was a fair review of Lapua 55 grain FMJ. I bought a lot of 1000 on sale and based on this review I thought I had been had! I am shooting a Remington 700 chambered in 222 remington Magnum. I loaded only three 26.5 gr H335 with a .010 inch jump. I anticipated returning the 997 remaining bullets.The group was .2 inches clover leaf. I think you need to revisit your seating depth.
I think you would get pretty good groups with 62 grain bullets.
Don't think those Lapua bullets are made to shoot in an AR platform, I've shot them in a Rem. 700, 24 " stainless Barrel
with a 12 twist and they shoot 0.5 Moa.
See if there is a correlation with bullet roundness. Use a real micrometer, not a caliper. My Sierra bullets all mike less than .0001 out of round, but most other brands are up to .0005 out of round. I was having fliers with one brand of bullet until I pushed them through a Lee sizer. Made three passes until I could not mike any out of round, and the fliers went away.
Ah, cheap bullets give cheap results. Might I get better groups by sorting them to roundness? Maybe, but what is the reason? I'm not trying to get my Hornady's to shoot 500 yards in the X ring. I just want a cheap bullet that will make a hole in something when laying the bump fire stock to it. :D
In your case anything will work as long as it does not gum up the works. In my case I am retired on limited funds, so I am willing to put labor into the process and still enjoy my hobby. To each his own I guess.
Bottom line....handloading can be maddening! lol. Select some components, test in your rifle/barrel until you widdle it down to what your rifle likes. Bullet, seating depth, brass, primers, powders, etc.....ton of bench time and range time to figure it out. Have fun!
ok i think im going to like your ch. great vid
I have been watching your videos and been very informative. It would been interesting to do the same test with 62gr or 68gr bullets.
Yeah, no thank you for H335 with your setup. It might work with a different barrel or twist. I would be curious to know if anyone has had good results, because I have some H335 that I was told is a good powder for my lead cast powder coat Lee .312 160gr bullets in 300blk and 308win
Have you ever tried something a little faster? Allient has load data for 1200-R using 55gn bullets and up to 21.4gn powder.....im goimg to try it out.
Tried it out.....shoots great. Consistant 3000fps out of my 16" barrel, 2750 fps out of my 10.5" barrel usimg Berry's Bullets 55gr fmj.
Have you checked out the armscor projectiles yet?
Is there a possibility of a 40-50 grain video for 556? I’m really interested in Prairie dog hunting?
Using #41 primers, your never going to see low SD. They're intended to ignite reliably everytime so they're extra hot but inconsistantly extra hot. It's a good primer for plickimg ammo however so go with the load that gets you the best group.....rather then SD. it's not precision ammo. You'll never get better without match primers.
Any plans on doing this with Ramshot TAC?
H-322 with Winchester primers, light crimp, and Everglades FMJ version 2.
I would like to see the Everglades against the General dynamics 👍🤔
Well the Lapua showed a .3" using the CFE 223. Kind of significant results. But probably not worth the cost.
Buy those Everglades 55 grain in the Thousand pack. Are you weighing the bullets to see if they're consistent?
I've had very good luck with H335 with a 55gr Nosler Varmagedon (same thing as Hornady Vmax) and Sierra 69gr smk. I went through the same thing as you, you can't expect to get match grade accuracy out of inexpensive bulk bullets. On another note, how's the 224 Valkyrie coming, did you buy any barrels?
Valkyrie is coming extremely soon. Days, not weeks.
JRB Everglades gets my vote so far.
I bought 5,000 brown tip frangible 50 grain 5.56 bullets and have been loading 25 grain of H335. 23 grain cycles all ARs tested but was short stroking the AUG so I loaded 25 grain and is fine. Not going for accuracy, going for combat practice ammo. If I want accuracy I use something else.
Jrb I shot a one hole 5 shot group with everglades and tried to reproduce it with 100 rounds and they shot just over an inch it was with bl-c 2 but never did reproduce an awesome group... know vid is old and everything still made a great plinker load though;-
I have tried several differant bullets sierra hornady nosler and differant grains all shot sub moa with h335 some guns just don't like it I guess
change out the primers and see if it changes the deviation
Not a bad idea! I might switch to Winchesters for the next video.
Johnny's Reloading Bench I second the switch to the WSR primer. One of my 3 go-to primers for all reloading
Johnny's Reloading Bench also, I'm not surprised about the Lapua groups in this video. I've never had the 55gr fmj shoot well with a ball/spherical powder.
@@JohnnysReloadingBench I am a CCI Guy they are great with all Rifle loads etc
Mr. Johnny in your opinion which is a better bullet BT or FT ?
Loose the #41 primers. Try a repeat of one of the bad loads but use a CCI 400.
Did use factory ammo to get rid of a cold bore?
I loaded some 52gr hp speer gold dots at 26.6, I think that was a bit much but I shot my best groups with that.
What's the scope you've been using in this series? I can't seem to locate it.
Have you tried this with a 77 grain Sierra bullet?
I really like h335 in 5.56 with the 77gr smk, with or without the cannelure. It also works great in 308 win. with 200gr. Match Kings. Gotta love a multi-tasker. Lyman data on both.
Should have tried OAL at 2250
I got a ? For u man I just started reloading 45 acp with titegroup and when I shoot my reloads it feels like I'm getting sand thrown in my face with every pull of the trigger should I switch powder?? If so anY 1 got any idea of a good powder to get ? Thanks
craftsman89 d unburnt powder is usually caused by too light of a load, or not enough crimp (or too slow of a powder but that’s not your issue here), also, I can’t recommend the Lee factory crimp die enough if you don’t already have one, I use them for ALL of my semi auto firearm reloads
spyderxtra777 I do have the factory crimp die in using berrys bullets they recommend lite crimp maybe I went to lite? On the crimp thanks
Try increasing your crimp slightly and see if it helps. If you have a bullet puller try pulling one afterwards to check for damage in the plating. A magnifying glass is helpful. A little seam or line created by the crimp is fine just as long as you aren't breaking through.
spyderxtra777 will do thanks
4.6 grains TG with a Berry's 230 grainer is my go-to load for .45 ACP.
I'm using H335, 26 grains, 3100fps 👍
Also are you just picking these charges out of thin air or???
That's what I was wondering. Just guessing the data would be a rather reckless thing to do. Folks get away with that sort of behavior until their expensive rifle blows to bits. I'd guess he consulted the bullet mfr. for proper data. Eyesight is worth the phone call.
@@uraniumpenetrator3844 Yes Johnny did all of that in previous videos. These are the ones that shot best from the manual after a ladder test. Now some experimenting with longer lengths. Which is safe unless jambing into the lands. Then you may run pressure up.
Keep in mind I a just a keyboard warrior but Dec./Jan. Shooting Times magazine demonstrated this extremely well with 9mm pistol rounds. In their demo just a couple of tenths over max sent pressures way up, but lengthing made it safe with max loading thus lowering pressure but reducing velocity. They were demonstrating velocity vs. pressure in 9mm.
Keep in mind you can't just decide to run under a published load either. That can lead to to much air space in the case which can cause the powder to all ignite at once which would be an explosion OVERPRESSURE! and not a controlled burn.
Sorry don't mean to preach but there are probably new people to this experience every day who need to hear this.
I'm sure you have covered this I remember your barrel change videos. However I have forgotten what length and Twist your barrel is? THANKS
18" 1:8
Johnny's Reloading Bench thank you!
maybe its the primer !!
Could you please test out Armscor bullets from surplusammo.com? They seem cheap but people seem to be getting 4 inch groups at best.
hate to necro-post here, but have you checked heavier bullets for the 1:8?
Have you tested any Reloader 15 with these bullets?
Glad to see ya bvk Johnny
Why is there 2 numbers on the group size and moa? Aren’t these the same at 100 yards?
It’s close to 1” at 100 yards not exactly tho.
More 308 reloading. Specifically 175gr, 180 gr with cfe 223 or 2000mr.
What is the barrel twist?
1:8 twist
Palametto has the valkyrie upper for 450 I think
Dont sleep on them Everglades!! And good, you didnt blow your face off!
Watched several of your videos. Ithink all that crap hanging on the end of the barrel isn't helping accuracy. The real world won't find a magneto hanging. The can also will not help. Real world experience personal test have shown the can usually hurts. Keep working on it !
Don’t think I’m crazy...try BLC2 with your 55 gners
And more rain for what, the next 10 days off and on, at least we're gonna hit 70 this week
so how's the trigger working for you? do you like it?
It feels excellent! It doesn't feel heavy at all and it breaks nice and clean. This video doesn't show it, but I've shot some pretty good groups with it already. Tomorrow's 6.5 Grendel video will be a better indication. :)
Good I just bought one 20 min ago after reading this. lol
maybe you can try AA2520 ?
I would love to. I've been using AA2520 so much that I worry about making too many videos with it. It has become a favorite of mine! I haven't done any tests with it and lighter bullets though, so I think I will add it to this series.
this would be extremly great :-)
AA2520 is a killer powder for 77s.
My Hdy 55 fmjbt shoot 1moa without much effort. 16in Cr DD barrel. Factory loads 3200fps.
Did you crimp these rounds?
He crimped the rounds with the cannelure when fired at cannelure length.
Check your scope. It's probably broken.
Im seeing people recommend using small pistol primers in place of small rifle primers online. Sounds like a bad idea to me but in these tough times with bare shelves, will it work safely?
T/c compass 30-06
Try med-heavy crimp
Am I the only person uses imr 4064 on 223?
I like IMR 4064 have not tried it in any of my Rem 223 Loads but in my Rem 22/250 it covers a dime with bullets in the 50-55 gr's out to 200 yds deadly on Coyotes, But I Want to try it in my Rem 223 also, Thanks Moose.
I load 23 grains with it under the 55's, if memory serves. Light accurate plinker. 4064 is a bit more expensive though.
i honestly wanna say its your barrel ..isn't that a cheap 80$ ar stoner barrel?i can send you a real good barrel that will eliminate the barrel area
6:21 explains the barrel. You're thinking his 300 BLK barrel.
appreciate that
You must spend alot in gas driving back and forth to the range all the time😲
Bob's look more like a rounded flat base.
The boat tail is certainly subtle
Wish H335 shot better, I have 8 lbs I'm shooting through.
This is cool trying to split the hairs on a nats ass. But let's remember that an AR shooting 1 to 2 moa out to 300 yds is all u ever going to need. Fun tho threading the needle with an AR.
lol lapua = how to waste large amounts of money fast.....
Ahh yes, reloading, where you spend a lot of time and money for disappointment!
I swore my 55gr with H335 pet loaf was 25.5gr out of my 16 grow upper. But I lost my dam loading data. And everyone swears by the 25.0gr as a solid pet node.
I guess todays batch is going to be 25.0gr... I wish I could find my old data. I SWORE it was a 25.5gr load. Swore it 😂
This comment was equal parts loaf, node, and load. :-)
How did the batch come out?