Saipaniversary | Jason McAteer on Roy Keane row | David Connolly's unseen tapes
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 พ.ค. 2022
- Jason McAteer and David Connolly joined Ger and Eoin on #OTBAM to reflect on the 20th anniversary of Saipan, which saw Ireland captain Roy Keane depart the squad on the eve of the 2002 World Cup finals.
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Keane had expectations and was levels above everyone else there. It was a joke setup the top pro’s like Keane expect a certain level of professionalism.
No way Jason ever competed at Roys level.
Yep, decent player, but roy drove his team, unlike jason could.
Chill, both of you. We can always be mean....
Keane was nowhere on Zidanes level!
On the ireland list Best and McGrath Trump him.
Let's move along
You chill and get back in your rte box
@@ajpw1981For a start George Best was from Northern Ireland! 😂
As good as McGrath was, he wasn't on Keane's level overall. A great talent, but Keane would make any team look better, he dragged the best out of everyone around him.
@@ajpw1981 Roy Keane led his Man Utd team to victory in the Stadio delli appi in Turin in 1999 when Juve were looking to get into their 4th final in a row if I remember from 2 nil down. The Juve midfield had Antonio Conte, didier Descaumps, Edgar Davids and Zidane, totally bossed the lot of em, done the same to the dutch team at Landsdowne road in 2001 and im neither irish or a utdfan
All this could’ve been avoided if mick stuck on careless whisper in the meeting and melted Roys icy heart with ‘the look’
After listening to this tripe, I find Roy’s version more believable.
You would, dope.
Jason was never, ever competing on Roy's level.
Imagine being against Roy Keane for wanting the country to be treated better!! All the players should be ashamed of themselves for not sticking with Keane!
Connolly says it’s tiresome but that doesn’t stop him. Also saying that McAteer was on the same level as Keane!? The whole coverage of this in the papers and OTB has been insufferable.
mcateer who did not win a single trophy in his entire career on same level as keane ? amazing how much rubbish this lot talk
Rubbish indeed
Nobody was on Roy Keans level
@@shutup2751 Amazing How many people can listen to a conversation and actually not hear what they said!
He said McAteer was “competing” on the same level as Roy, which having played for Liverpool at that time he was.
He is referring to the levels of the game and he was on the lower spectrum. He never said McAteer was on the “same” level as Roy Keane.
Jason wouldn't be at the world Cup if it wasn't for Keane. He was an ordinary player, fit for an ordinary Liverpool team at the time. Never mix his name with a Legend again. World Cup or no world Cup, Keane is a legend and will be spoken as in years to come.
McAteer has really milked a punditry career talking about Saipan and his goal vs Holland.
mcateer goes on as if he is world class because of that one goal, in reality he has not won a single trophy in his great career
Keane made that goal and all
@@shutup2751 He was a skilful player but absolutely no bottle whatsoever
Don't forget the shampoo ads ;)
😂 definitely
2 English footballers talking about one of the greatest Irish footballers of all time
Well said dude 😎
What you’d give to have Kane, rice and grealish 😂😂😂😂
2 very average players who were not fit to lace Keanes boots.Saying they are sick about talking about Saipan yet gladly talk about it.
2 English men having a chat about another English man ejecting an Irishman from an Ireland squad. Those were the days.
got us too a few world cups like
@@sammurray9644 so did Roy Keane
@@sammurray9644 no they never Keane did! And getting there is no achievement! Winning it is a achievement! Your attitude was what was wrong with Ireland and no wonder Keane cracked up! It’s embarrassing listening to mcateer!
If they wasn’t Irish then they wouldn’t be playing for Ireland
England always living your head literally rent free. Love it.
Get over it! And BTW, McTeer wasn't good enough to get an international career for England, so understandably he to the level down option of playing for Ireland. He was an average footballer who has ridden the coattails of this incident for years and still makes a decent living off rubbishing Roy Keane, arguably our greatest footballer. McAteer has zero winners medals, Keane has 19 including the EPL, FA Cup, and Champions League. Enough said.
The winner of our group (Germany) only had to beat USA, Paraguay and South Korea 1:0 to reach the final. That hurts the most. We could've done something really special that year if Saipan turned out differently 😔
Amen 🙏
Beat Spain on penalties and we have South Korea in quarters and then Germany in semi final
Wed have won group with keane and took easy route to final
True. I always say we could have made the final that year. Pens against spain, korea in the quarters, germany in the semis who we got a draw against in the group. That was our golden generation, we will never get a chance like that again 😪
South Korea were the hosts and were riding a wave of national euphoria. It would have been a very very tough game to win. Plus the refs gave them everything and there were rumours they were "juicing".
Duff had a great tournament.
Mcateer on the same level as Keane, Connolly has been on the crack pipe.
Mcateer went from Bolton to Liverpool and did absolutely nothing before journeying around football.
Meanwhile R Keane is noted as the greatest captain to ever grace the PL and 1 of the greatest midfielders around of that era.
Give your head a wobble Connolly. You might as well say Mark Kennedy was on Roy's level as well yeah????
Or Matty Holland 😂. Mcateer couldn’t lace Roy’s boots
Could bearly lace his own i reckon
He said played at the same level
@@TheHarrybo1 yes that's what was being said. The Pro keane lads jumping in 2 feet first .. just like Roy
Macateer "im quiet calm and quick witted" 😂😂😂😂. One hundred and eighteyyyyyy
the standards of irish football are shocking, we still go on and on about italia 90 over 30 years later, more interested in the past then building a future, keane was one of the few with a winning mentality and was villified
Spot on, he warned management well before Saipan especially before the Holland march when they had to send out for Pizzas for an evening meal, read the Genesis report and the FAI were worse than amateur about the whole organisation, this all added to Keane's frustration funny how afterwards the it changed all down to Keane's persistence and to some extent sacrifice, although I think he made it too personal in the end, still up there with the best that we ever had.
Yep. I remember the two Holland matches. Keane disappointed with the match in Amsterdam because we gave away the three points. In Dublin we were holding on for the point we needed with only ten men, but Keane was pushing forward for the win and helped force the goal.
Italia 90 was great in terms of how new it all was but the numbers don’t lie: 0 wins, 4 draws, 1 loss, 2 goals scored, 3 conceded. All this with a squad with players who were winning trophies at club level regularly
@@conorl1894 Yeah, not too bad though for a country in which football is a minority sport.
@@davidpryle3935 We scored 2 goals in 5 games with a squad featuring many liverpool players who had won multiple trophies playing long ball football. Whatever about the dutch and english games, the egypt one was a disgrace
To me the sad thing about all this ,is that it feeds off rumours. If you look at cause and effect, Roy told people what they didn't want to hear, but perhaps needed to..in a way they weren't used to(or offended them). The fact others are feeding off it when Roy didn't say a word about players publically excluding them except those at press conference... Kind of proved Roy's point
Carbord paddy's sending home a true Irish legend,
We're never gonna stop talking about this, are we? Good.
None of these other players have nothing to talk about! There only achievements were being in an argument with Roy Keane.
@@dondamon4669 If its not Saipan its the Holland goal and thats about it.
That is, ROY no messing straight 👌 too the, POINT and he was SPOT on, MUPPETS
Mcateer not fit to lace Roy Keane's boots
God none of these players have nothing to talk about in there careers then Roy Keane! There only achievement! Playing with Keane
Their*
@@bkennedy9556 there! Will do you loser! Embarrassing! Bet your gf loves you
Jason McAteer is living off this incident way too long. David connolly is an absolute noting person when it comes to Irish football. Plus so many people love to be in Roys stories because it gives them validation
Jason and Roy prob have bad blood, I specifically remember Roy getting sent off for elbowing mcateer in the face in the season after that world cup 😂
So is Kevin Kilbane and Clinton Morrison…takeaway quality players
This must be the most milked sports media story of Ireland. I honestly can't believe this is still debated and talked about.
Jason McAteer isn't good enough to lace up Roy Keane's boots and he knows it
Roy said one young player came to his room upset and crying saying he knew Roy was right ! but he was afraid if he spoke up he would not get to play in the world cup . I've always wondered was it David Connelly ??
I'd say it was the Duffer
@@RadioNul yeah it could have been 👍👍
he names the 2 players in his book
@@RadioNul Good thinking man.
@@MrHuytieWho was it then?
Keane living rent free in McAteer's head,,,he was a very average player,,
Shame on all involved for not taking Roy Keane to the 2002 World Cup. Including Roy Keane himself. Missed opportunity to push for the final. We best Holland at home. We could have pushed past Spain with Roy.
He was the author of his own downfall and a disgrace to both the manager Mick McCarthy and his team mates Stephen Frazer.The greatest midfielder who ever drew breath was also so arrogant and its why fergie got rid of him at united. No one who took on fergie ever won and it was the same to a lesser degree with Mick.
Would’ve easily got to the semis with Roy in the team
Ireland should of won that game anyway, they were all over spain.
Connolly started about 25 stories and finished none of them.
Roy told the press he didn't respect Mick and why should that have mattered he was playing for Ireland not Mick Mccarthy, Mick didn't like it and that's the Straw that broke the back,or so I've heard..
Typical off the ball nonsense. The most notable part of Macateer’s career is his association with Roy Keane. He can play the “so over it” card all he wants, but he’s milking it big time. Pathetic.
If these 2 were any good they would have played 4 England the only time they were in ireland was to play football.
I would be surprised if Jason and Roy became friends again!
McaTeer and the other bloke who I can't remember the name? both seem to have one 'interesting' talking point from their football careers, Roy Keane
Roy Keane has many more than one, enough said !!!
McAteer was a good late 90’s early 00’s player, I always remember him putting the effort in, can’t say he was the greatest but he certainly wasn’t the worst. When it comes to Keane? Greatest all round midfielder I’d ever seen along with Captain Marvel, crazy that both played for United and Keane picked up the torch and carried it on. Utd haven’t had a player like him since, I don’t think the prem has had a player like him since he retired. Look around world football, can’t get a top striker, can’t get a battle ready box to box midfield. There was at least 10 of each in each of the big leagues during the 90’s and early 00’s I don’t appreciate how football has became less skilful and entertaining over the years.
Being very generous calling McAteer good. I'll give him his dues in that he forged a career with very little football ability.
Might be the opposite of what you are actually saying? Even Uk players are more technical on the whole now, and the rules have changed with regard to mf battles. They can't tackle like they used to, hence the game is more pass and move for all players, like what Man City do, teams aspire to that type of play, so we are not going to get players like him or Vierra in the same sense.
@@gaskellr44 and todays football is boring!
Roy Keane would have been rooming with Denis Irwin in Saipan, if but Denis Irwin had already retired from Ireland. Rumour is that Irwin couldn't stand Mick either.
Irwin, was dropped for Jeff kenna in 00 and told by mick to ‘prove himself’, which was embarrassing considering irwin is a top 5 all time irish player and the most decorated one we’ve have alongside keane, compared to Kenna who was a journeyman. Embarrassing man management
But outside chance irwin would’ve been there as he would’ve been 36/37 at that point
Denis was brilliant for Wolves 2022 to 2004 won promotion to PL with them
What an absolute plum. Irelands greatest ever player. Have some respect on Roy. He dragged Ireland to 2002 World Cup as he did for Manchester United.
I knew mcateer would be all over this.
he complains that it should be in room 101 and forget it forever and it's been dug up a million times
why does he keep talking about it though if he's that sick of it
Do they get paid for coming o the show. If so I wonder how much? It must be enough. But I thought they might have made their money.
What would Keane say today if Pogba refused to play a game because he was unhappy with the training facilities?
pogba probably hates training thats the difference, keane wanted to train
@@shutup2751 just answer my question?
If he was playing well and always giving his all and the team never had footballs and a dangerous ground Keane would respect him but the way Pogba is of course he wouldn’t back him! Pogba is a terrible terrible player! Ten good games in ten years!
@@dondamon4669 he would back Pogba for letting his country down just before their most important match ever?
Because he was unhappy with training facilities?
Lol
He’d say it’s his job!
Who cares what the barely literate McAteer thinks.. I saw Barcelona playing one day and Ray Hudson said in the commentary "I haven't seen this many passes since Jason McAteer was on mastermind"
Lest we forget, Keane played 3 full matches for Manchester United in one week on his 'injured knee'.
Thanks to TH-cam anyone can just dig stuff up and load it
Small costs and can’t be stopped 🤣🤣👍🏾
The most ironic thing about this video is these two weaklings would never have been anywhere near this situation if they were good enough to make the England squad.
There was bad blood between them anyway so it was only a matter of time. Just came at the worst possible time. Roy just wanted the players to be treated better by the FAI and the management but knew it was a losing battle.
Can’t Mcateer afford a pc with a webcam
Behave yourselves lads. This is pure blasphemy. Don't disrespect our Roy 🇮🇪
I'm too young to remember this, but genuinely who is McAteer?? Why is he talking about Roy Keane - the most popular premier league commentator and footballing legend...who is so respected by other legends. No clue who these people are. You need a better social media strategy OTB - this stuff is not going to drive engagement
Should have flown straight into Japan, Japanese would have laid on world class training facilities. Only went to Saipan because Mick's friend lived there. Mick didn't even travel to Saipan ahead of time to check the training pitch.
Totally agree with y’a dude, Saipan was and is a dust bowl and the facilities are still rubbish. In Japan they had everything laid on and ready to go…… of course there is another story on that ridiculous choice of Saipan !
I'm more Irish than them too , and I haven't had an Irish relative since 1847. I don't blame players like Kean. You're at the top of your game, and you have people in your squad who are only there because they'd never make the England squad....As for McAteer, those white suits and his shampoo advert defined his career !
Roy woke Keane should’ve stopped crying and just played
Why do off the ball hate Roy Keane so much 😅 the lads are absolutely obsessed
Clowns, connelly trying to say he that mcateer was on the same level as keane 😂😂
Keane was right about everything, the only wrong Keane did was talk to the press about his grievences, though Mick shouldn't have confronted in front of everyone, should have taken him aside.
Keane should know talking to the press is a treacherous move. Someone should press Keane on that, it's a key element that has been skirted over.
McCarthy was to much of a coward to pull Keano on his own
WHO Backed, ROY up on the, PROBLEMS at the time.
Ireland wouldn’t have won it with Keane,definitely would’ve been further than a paltry 2nd round,but seriously no,they wouldn’t have lifted the trophy…
Funniest story about Jack's Ireland team is the Irish PM paying a surprise visit and half the players didnt have a clue who tf he even was.
I like mcateer he's a good lad n to be fair he scored that goal against Holland that's the only mcateer moment I have lol . To be disrespectful n slagging Roy off etc obviously they don't like eachother. Wld love for Roy to come on the show have his say or have both Roy n mcateer on . It wouldn't end well can ya imagine 🤣
the whole thing was a shambles on both sides
As if keane is still bothered by mcateer. Cluxton should've hit him harder to knock a bit of sense into him.
Mcateer on keanes level, no, not as a footballer nor as a man
Egos got the better of em all, 4got what it was like to be a child watching a world cup.....park your differences aside. But as the manager, it has to fall on Micks lap for me
20 years on and it still hasn’t stopped. Even Liverpool managed to win the league in the meantime ! Come on lads leave it.
And 2 champions leagues 3 if they beat RM on Sat
They were always good cup sides Liverpool
@@greglyons2526 triggered much?
@@monrush its like you like saying "triggered much?" And just throw it in anywhere now, even when it makes zero sense.. How is this someone being triggered?
@@murthunt1047 ah ok. Well I'll go slowly junior just for you treacle. See someone made a joke or had a dig at the great Liverpool winning a single league title in the 20 years since the Roy Keane WC incident and rather than taking the joke. This , what I'm assuming Liverpool fan, had to counter it with a "2 champions leagues" comment so. In conclusion he/she was "triggered" or in another word "bit" rather than taking the joke. 2 champions Leagues and can only win the same number of premier League titles as Leicester... 😂😂😂. There's no point in being the biggest dog in the next town when you're not even the biggest dog in your own yard.
It’s just like a kettle, it blew up.
At least Jason realised Roy was right . Respect to him for being man enough to admit it only 20 years later 🙏
Roy was loyal to his country and wanted the best for it. These two were loyal to Mick and the glorified England B Team. I’d say Roy spelt that out and it wasn’t appreciated.
oh please, Roy was loyal to United.
@@berbuck yeah and look at what he won there ? meanwhile the fai pen pushers and the LOI fanboys are just happy to qualify for a tournament, never any ambition to go further
If you think this is the issue you've misunderstood the entire saga
@@berbuck he got Ireland to the World Cup you clown! He didn’t play in games that didn’t matter, he didn’t need to play in friendlies or games that didn’t matter. The way he played the more rest the better clown
It was handled so so very badly by everybody, including Roy, however he was one aspect of this whole debacle. The FAI, Mick McCarthy and ALL the players were all at fault. The reason these ex players don't want to talk about it is they were all culpable!! He wanted things to be the very best they could be. Players like Jason McAteer, David Connelly etc, where bang on average players at best and not in Keane's class. They all should of stood up and reasoned with McCarthy to make the peace, so Roy was right, they were cowards who hadn't the guts to fight for what was right!
What ever you say about the lads, its Roy who walked out in my mind he left his country down . he could have put his differences aside and sorted it out later.
@@patodonovan274what gets overlooked is the newspaper article Keane did that led to the slanging match with McCarthy. Keane slated the FAI, McCarthy and the other players and must have known it would cause an issue. He could've waited til after the tournament to air his views. To me it seems Keane engineered a situation that would cause a confrontation with McCarthy and lead to Keane going home. Looks like he just didn't wanna be there and this high standards stuff is just a smokescreen.
Roy Keane was right,,,, amateur hour it looked to me .
Keane was ultimately the villain. He put his mood ahead of his country. Ireland could have won a World cup.
Rubbish from average ex players and poor journalism. And such a boring story at this stage. McAteer is a sap some of his comments on the team and standards of professionalism are more suitable for a pub team. Joker
McAteer was not a good player, I've seen him give up in a match many times, he's not qualified to mention Roy Keanes name
David your a billy hunt, on the same level 😂
Keane was just a winner
and his opinions should of been taken into consideration
@Val O'Connell he has made a few quid from being crap sir
@Val O'Connell who would u like as a pundit sir
Mcateer legend
exactly one foot in his mouth the other for kicking ball whereas keane is legends both feet and the medals to proove it ...
Mcateer wasnt fit to clean Keane's boots.. and I ain't no fan of Roy but come on let's not distort history
Lots of Irish players here 😂😂😂😂😂
I blame it all on Ian harte
Never heard of Connolly
Neither had Roy Keane
Typical tactic mick used ,line up the chaps call a meeting, provoke Roy get a reaction and then job done, typical conquer and divide ,Roy the mad bad boy and all the macateers rub their hands
Did McAteer refer to himself as "an elite sportsman"????
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That's a wonderful Irish accent you have Mr McAteer. You just know Keane HATED all the plastic Paddy's..
Ya, and he said as much to Mick, which was a big reason he was right to send him home. Robbie Keane by contrast was noted by many like Steven Reid for example for going above and beyond to make sure they felt welcome in the squad. I know which Keane I'd rather as Ireland captain.
@@stypemann633 he sure did. Keane absolutely hated the fact that the Ireland team was full of players who probably had never stepped foot in the country before being selected to represent them.
@@stypemann633 robbie keane another average player with no winning mentality, what was it 1 league cup at tottenham and then couldn't cut it at liverpool so went off to the MLS when going got tough
@@shutup2751 If Robbie Keane's your idea of an average player, you have very refined taste... or you're just an idiot
Without the children of the diaspora they weren't qualifying for this or any world cup.
The training surface was a joke and if a player had broken an ankle in a pothole the whole story would be different . Keane wanted the best for the Irish Team and unfortunately Saipan was the wrong venue for the training camp. Why should Keane or any of the players have had to risk an injury on that sh$t training surface?
"Naval gazing" journalism. Such a lack of originality. Telling that this is the standard of OTB content, plus the most significant event in McAteer's career (and he's delighted to think he's relevant). I'm sure we'll see another roll out of this tripe in 5 and 10 years time. Never would see this on BT, Sky, BBC or decent fan channels.
so jason mcateer is on the John "ill take a 5 million bribe from FIFA to avoid a replay over the henry handball" Delany camp . says it all relly doesnt it ???
Yikes, listening to David Connolly is hard work 😐🔫.
Get to the point man!
Just thinking the same...its like he has tourettes without the swearing.
typical palites interviewing two non Irish players. maybe get an Irish born player lads
Mcteer what a joke!
How excited Jason get on making millions on the filming, goes to show he's milking this to make money.
Oftb seem to realy like to knock keane, it comes off a bit elitist to me.
This is pure drivel. Terrible stuff.
Jason McIntyre never won anything wasn't good enough to play for England we send home the only world class player we had Roy Keane won everything in the game if Roy Keane grandmother was English England would do everything in their power to get in to play for England so that tells me everything I want to know about Jason McIntyre
Can't remember any Jason McIntyre playing for Ireland.
Better men than Rice rice baby
McAteer is a joke, he’s a spice boy that tells you everything you need to know about him
Two losers. Im a Liverpool fan and connelly saying mc ateer was on keanes level is laughable
Mc carthys man management was terrible. The elite managers like fergie, klopp, ancelotti and pep etc all know hiw to deal with people like keane.
Mick simply did not
Mcateer on Keane's level 🤣🤣🤣
Roy Keane was the greatest midfielder that has ever livid but he was also an angry stubborn tw** and absolutely anti social. But most geniuses are and thats just how it is.
He was a great midfielder but no way was he the greatest Bobby Charlton, Zidane and Gullit to name but 3 were significantly better
He wasn’t anti social at all? Why you think that?
He was pivotal in getting Ireland to Saipan with some awesome performances in the qualifiers, and to put Mc Ateer in the same bracket as Keane is nonsense, how we could do with him today, Mc Ateer is a spoofer.
I am a life long Liverpool fan . And Jason wasn't that great.
@@alcoyne3333333333333 I remember being gutted Mcateer joined Liverpool instead of arsenal(my team) at the time but have to say he didn’t do much at Liverpool
Roy Keane was the only world class player Ireland had....maybe ever.....he had standards that should've been the norm and he was right to pack it in IMO.
This some load of rubbish.
I wish if any player from that time were to speak about it just say it as they saw it not butter up other players and manager then give a non story about themselves.
Also the only people that have the right to chat about this don't even want to talk about it anymore.
Move on OTB
Really really really old news
OTB are starting to get stale
the myth of keane grows and grows...
Eh?