£200 Tent vs £1100 Tent. What is the Difference? | Cloud Peak 2 vs Hilleberg Allak 2
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- In this video we take a look at a popular budget 2 man tent, the Naturehike Cloud Peak 2 and compare it to the more premium and pricey Hilleberg Allak 2. The difference in cost between the two tents is vast but is the cloud peak 2 a worthy wild camping tent for a fraction of the price?
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Much love. Hazy
We're living in crazy times. Don't suffer alone , you can call the samaritans on 116 123. Take care
I’ll see you in the summer Haze. I love a good frollock. 😉
Just had a can of faith hazy pale ALE that’s cheered me up what a drink 😍👌🏻🤤
thanks Hazey! BTW, check your email, I have an idea I'd like to share with you regarding the above!!
Good call. I'm 90% introvert on the Myers Briggs test. Not having to mix with people was great to begin with. I'm feeling it now. Extroverts in small households must be exhausted from bouncing off the walls. Few more weeks and GB and Ireland can be glad of having water around them. There's plenty to see/do in both places.
Good assessment of the tents. Both designed in finer detail for specific markets. I've seen the one man sleep only tents used by hikers wgen camping with my kids. Don't think I could use one without being claustrophobic. Ironic in remote places. And I thought garden camping was to let the kids think they're having an adventure alone but you're really keeping an eye. Lol
All planned ......research the Lockstep document ...page 18.. we are in the middle of the Planned great reset........Total government control,,,,,The vir.us is a trojan horse
“now is the winter of our discount tent”.
Nice one, lolz 😂
very nice one !
@@TheMcspreader think it must come close if not lol
Oh my...that's good. Kudos for that one. Really.
Excellent
Great review, purchased it myself before Christmas but like you have not got out in it as of yet but cant wait to try it out.. Cant wait to see you back out there.
6:20 giggles 😂
Over a grand for a tent FT........thats nearly 6 cans of Northern Monk....no way !
Nine hundred quid is the difference. You're welcome.
Totally agree Hazo. The cloud peak is an impressive tent for the money. Great design. The only things I’ve noticed is that when it rains, an open door exposes the inner which can get a bit wet if you’re not quick. Obviously it’s not as good in the wind as the hilleberg, but the cloud peak is mine and the mrs’s go to humble abode when up in the hills. Big hugs mate
One dude was saying he’d had it out In 50mph winds and it was fine 🤷🏻♂️. Quality tent for the price mate. Big hugs back at ya!
both ya channels are excellent and honest, here's from another Yorkshire lad.
@@HazeOutdoors i had it out in high winds and snow no problem but when i tripped over the guy in deep snow it ripped a great wedge out of it bye bye tent
Naturehike must do some testing with their tents for durability (wind, snow, rain etc) before releasing them to market!?
@@stonehill27 yes but 20 stone tripping over it i doubt they tested lol
Your face, like a kid in a sweet shop when sat in your mortgaged tent 🤣
For a grand id want a fry up brought to my tent every morning included.
Fair comments. On the condensation topic, I've not had any condensation in the Cloud Peak 2, probably because of the inner mesh and ceiling vents. I've had it out in 50mph winds/ gusts and it was fine
im a recycled camper im new to the brands i got a cheap tent to start with as with rucksack etc eurohike tamar tent bargain at £19 but its a good lil starter for mild conditions and most of all im happy and preparing to get outdoors buying cheap stuff, it keeps my mind focused and thats good, i have depression and im single but im ok and im walking and getting fitter, life is good when you have a purpose
Good for you Tony, keep those feelings far away from you. Keep strong, things will improve in due time.
@@dulceamaya1492 ty
@@tonyoutdoors9369 you're welcome hun.
By the time lockdown 5 gets there he will be garden camping Skyping Joey D as he also garden camps reminiscing about the days when you could leave the house. Dark humor aside nice honest review. All the best to you Haze.
Hahahaha
Unless the sheeepeole stop complying you'll soon be talking lockdown 25
Your only jelous coz i have a 30 pound pop up tent mate
I have a Soulo and bought the Allak as a one-man option when I want a little more room. Winter camps especially.
For me - the extra security you get from a Hilleberg is worth the cost. Ok, it's a lot of money.....but it will last 20 years if you look after it. £50-ish quid a year. To me, that's decent value.
Good ain’t cheap.
Cheap don’t last.
Being realistic, these cheaper tents are good for sporadic use only.
Use them every day ? Even during the three seasons ? They are unlikely to last.
Every day pitch
Every day take down
The high end tents are pricey for a reason.
They have a tendency to last.
It is, I suppose, all about what you intend to do with the tent……. Days per year etc
Buy the best tent you can afford
Love this review didn't realise the price difference I defo won't be letting my wife watch this video thou cause I'm keen to get an allak lol if she knew price she would put stop to it straight away lol
Keep up gd work
Great comparison buddy, brought the cloud peak myself last week and garden camped at the weekend 😅 really not bad for the price! Got it for taking the dog on some camps 🐾👍🏼
Thanks for sharing mate, hope you’re well
Ash
Lockdown 3. Amazing mate. Here in Sweden we still have not gone into lockdown yet. Look after yourself.
I've personally wanted a Hilleberg for over 10 years and finally got myself a Hilleberg Anaris when lockdown hit in march. I know it's not the lightest trekking pole tent, but it's just so satisfying to finally scratch that itch I've had for so long. Loved this comparison and I think you did a great job of talking about both sides of the comparison!
how is condensation in it?
@@bimazivanovic4784 I’ve had no problems with condensation, but I’ve only been out in pretty decent weather with a some wind. I really like the tent, but wish it was 10cm wider to fit two wide pads better.
Ha still lighter than my trango 3 .we mainly use it in the mountains in the winter ,
Great video, you really make it fun to watch, I've just bought the cloud peak 2 and it'll last me a lifetime because I'm an old git at 62 😂
had my cloud peak 2 for 6 years and used it over 50 times in snow, wind, and rain and even thunderstorms and its still going strong
For me 200 isnt cheap lol xD 1100 is insanely expensive for that tent...
I love Vango tents, designed for the British Isles , in this I include Ireland, where I live. Designed for the rain and wind! Everything else is a plus! I’m out in the Wicklow Mountains a lot. The ones you can see from Snowdonia
I’m watching while taking a dump. Great vid
Respect ✊
I bet you are not the only one, but you are the only one that comments about it.
Really have a need to share that????
Allak of cash if I forked out for the Hilleberg🤦♂️
Haaaa
Love my cloud peak 2 after owning the zephyrous 2 it was a great upgrade I mainly wild camping woodland so if I rip it or get a burn it don’t matter at £100 if I had the Allak and ruined it I would be pissed .Great video haze 👍
Shan’t be long now till we can hit the hills, that’ll be the real test for the tent
I’ve got a Naturehike cloud up 2 had it on kinder scout in 35-38mph winds all night solid as a rock
Absolutely.
I am so pleased I purchased the Naturehike Cloud Peak 2. There are two internal pockets in the Cloud, one is very large mesh type mounted higher. The cloud peak 2 is very stable in high winds. (longer pegs are a must). There are two ceiling mesh vents, I have never had a problem with condensation. Both models allow water entry into the bath tub from the entry points. ( a cheap hack is to hot glue two extensions on the hood entry points with ties on the front corners for those miserable days when rain appears). The cloud peak 2 is 120cm at one end and 130cm at the other end. The Cloud Peak 2 is a much better option if you are hiking (weight wise). The Hilleberg Allak 2 is ridiculously over priced in comparison. From my experience the Allak 2 does not perform any better in mountain snow storms.Thanks for the great review.
I’ve used the Cloud Peak 2 in strong winds and it was absolutely solid. Would I do that again, probably not! But it survived with no issues.
Hey matey. I bought the cloud peak 2 for mine and my daughters first snowy wild camp on dartmoor and it was brilliant. Not going to get myself into debt for a hillerberg. All the same a great video. Ps. Need help getting excited over tents ⛺ 😆 🤣 stay safe out there buddy!! 👍
I think that was a great Tent talk & I enjoy those. For most people I don’t think spending £1100 is realistic atm. But when we’re all suffering cabin fever, and you can get out for £200 after we’re set free again. I think that’s the way a lot of people will be going. Even people who have never camped/hiked are longing for the freedom of nature. For me, the sky is my happy place. So whenever I’m underneath it, or watching it, I’m a happy lady. Stay well Haze and as always, much love to all 💕
@@TheMcspreader Are you working in their PR team? 🤣
"Eleven hundred quid for a wigwam, too much mate" 😂 totally agree 👍 although I have considered the Allak 2. Maybe marginally too heavy for regular use as well, I'm not a lightweight gear freak but 3.7kg is not lightweight at all.
I’ve often almost purchased the cloudpeak as a cheap alternative for the summer camps, where I don’t fancy burning the hilly on the beach round a fire etc...
@ShiftCtrl85 * designing my own tents*
- got a scrap of paper and a pencil.
As Red and Black Hillebergs are designed to withstand strong wind they are actually pretty terrible for ventilation. The Cloud-Peak is a bit draughty in wind but that means great ventilation in summer.
Again mate, I can't watch this. It's just two in tents...
Never gets old
You don't garden camp for fun, it's for testing gear in a safe place.
Excellent vid! I have the Hilleberg Niak, and like the Allak, it’s a joy. Anyway, don’t worry Uncle Hazey, you’ll be back out there in no time, and we look forward to you bringing us all along with you. 🙏
Oh! I have the same one as you. Went for the "buy once, cry once option" and I haven't regretted it. Its a fantastic tent. But I do love these comparisons!
I do a lot of camp-site camping and would be afraid to leave a Hilleberg/expensive tent whilst away hiking all day.
There are hundreds of camping videos out there, yours are my favourite . Human touch for a human subject. Ironic and effacing. Bitter sweet ,melancholy . Lovely .
I have got a naturehike cloud peak 2 tent but not had it out yet so glad I am hearing good thinks about it. The hilleberg does look next level but atm I just don't have that amount of money for a tent 😅 Maybe one day! Thank you 👍
Great honest review Hazy. More to think about in my planned coast to coast. On that subject, what month did you choose to complete it?
Thanks mate
That alkak is jus gorgeous. I’m saving for a soulo since winter camping is new to me but I wanna get a larger tent to go to the north coast beaches and the allak3 is the beastie I’ve decided to get due to the turbulent winds. In the meantime I’m using a vango 300. It does the job but it’s quite large for just me and I don’t like sharing with mates. At £200 that tent might be a horrible term solution to my problem. Plus I can loan it to mates who don’t have camping gear when I get a mortgage for the hilleberg 🙄. Another great review mate 👍🏻
I agree £1100 is a lot of money for a tent, but i bought my Akto in 1998 for £242, so take it on the yearly cost its still well worth the money and i still use it today (in no lockdowns), i recently bought the Anaris and cannot wait to try it out on a few weekends soon.
Nice honest review pal.
The Allak is clearly a sick tent, but £1100+ is indeed eye watering for most! I’ve had the CP for a couple of years now and absolutely love it. For the money it’s a no brainer
Peace and love matey 😘
Just to throw another tent in the mix, the Fjallraven abiko dome 2 is again almost identical. £250 cheaper than the Hilleberg and still a effing good tent. That’s what I’m saving for.
Awesome video hazey! I have the naturehike and it’s been a beast. It survived the worst rain I’ve ever been out in with 50mph winds in dartmoor during storm Ellen. For an extra £100 you can always upgrade the poles too!
I understand why you get so emotional about your tent. I still have my knackered old eurohike starter tent as it holds so many memories of awesome places I’ve camped. 🏕❤️
Nice one Hazey. I'm thinking about purchasing my first tent soon.. would be great to hear your thoughts on how the CP2 compares against the Helm 2 👍
YES! I LOVE my Allak 2! Have other nice tents but this one...has stolen my heart! Good review of both tents. Thx.
It was really fun to see someone love their Hilleberg tent as much as I love mine. I have a Staika that I saved for and since I am in SE Alaska with the wind, rain and snow we get I have never regretted paying the price. If I was going to do more hiking instead of kayaking, I would look at one of their lighter weight ones. 1000% worth the money and I get giddy over mine too :)
I don't get what your saying about the garden camping, you would be doing only for a night just to test it fully... not all the time, it would be a one off, I'm sure you could of done it for this one off review.... to really test it out (the cloud peak). I totally understand about waking up in stunning places and the reason why you do it in the first place, oh well... not getting at ya, just dont understand it...
Can see how much it means to you to sit in the Allak 2 again mate. Good overview, insane you can buy 5 CP2’s for an Allak. Great vid 👍🏻
I no you want to buy one and camp with it in your garden plenty of room
Simon..... Ud be cold in any tent mate.......
Simon..... Buy or get given that tent and I assure you u will be cold
It's now becoming commercial........ Wot a waste of money..... The true outdoors do not review this crap tbh...... Weekend people making money
The neo air mat is fuckin shit
What is the primary function of a tent, is it to shelter you from the elements, keep you safe, warm and DRY !
So if someone rips you off and sells you a tent for say £1000 and that tent is so badly ventilated and designed that the manufacturer recommends a little towel or a waterproof cover for your bag, or let your sleeping bag get wet, what type of Idiot would still think they have a bargain !!!!
Ans.....Hilleberg owners.
Even in 2024 this is a great video! I’m thinking about the allak and this video helps me :)
Omg you are sooooo cute!!! 😍😍 And hot!!
Love your background at home!! Really aesthetically pleasing!! 😊😊
And thank you for reviewing the naturehike tent!! I really like it!!
And for me £200 is NOT budget!! Omg that is Hella expensive!! Haha
Still think it is quality!
Buying a Cloud Peak 2: 200quid. An Allak: 1.200£. Selling a cloud peak 2: 50£. Selling an Allak 1000£. So they’re only 50 quid difference in price.
Yup💥. Just like Bob lazar talking bout the "sport model" ufo in S4.. A hilleberg Vs a naturehike shelter.....💥💥. Did our Bobby telt truth????
Appreciate you hazy, you're a top lad 👍🏻
When I was researching tents and balking at the prices of great tents my dear wife said that I should divide the price of the tent by the number of comfortable nights sleep over the lifetime of the tent. Sound advice. I've slept comfortably over many nights where other people have got sodden tents and beds.
Can you do a compare on swim trunks next time seeing you dunk the trunks as often as you sleep in tents mate lol
Lockdown? For camping? Ignore all those stupid "rules" and be the person you have the right to be and just go camping if that's what you want to do. Lockdown...Lmao!
£1100 for a tent ⛺ 😳 ... ok if you've never camped before and your brand new and want to start, for £1100 you can kit yourself out with a Tent, Cooking & Sleeping System, Bushcraft tools ie Knife Axe etc, Back Pack and more, enough said. I firmly believe quality kit does have its place, but not for this tent. Good Balanced Review 👌
its funny im watching this video again because i have just bought one finally so ill tell you what i think mate when i get it but i know i won,t be disappointed because i got one new for £135 😊 stay happy allways hasey lid
I don't agree so much you are paying for the name, just normal payed people making it and the difference in quality in materials makes the difference. We are just used to much to under-payed , very bad payed labor in China. Also taxe differences etc. This is more of a politic and Yesss! Climate politics difference in price between China and Estland Sweden. Think about that too and tell people about it too when you discovered all that. Influencers :-) like you should! :-) warm greetings from the Netherlands, Onno Nugteren.
Got both tents... prefer a hammock or bivvi bag 🤣🤣
...going to use the Allak in Scotland soon thou and lending out the Peak.
Great review 😎👍
You may aswell compare a proper Rolex with a copy from Turkey! Ridiculous comparison
The lock downs are ridiculous on their own. But forbidding camping? Exactly who are you going to contaminate way up in the hills by yourself? Something else afoot.
Re the tents. I love the expensive one fir another reason. The colour. Cheery.
I find blue or green tents distort your vision and when you go outside everything looks wierd.
I prefer yellow, orange, red or brown/ beige.
Another tape measure in the tent video. 😁👍
"Destination tent"... Haze's prog rock breakthru album
Any recommendations for a low budget 3 man tent with large sized vestibule that can withstand strong winds and possible snow. Been looking at the oex coyote iii, lightwave t20xt trail.????
OK so you got a little spoilt getting the Hilleberg as a present (yes I am a little jealous ;-)). If you wouldn't spend £1100 on a tent what would be your choice for a 3-4 season tent? What sort of money would you be willing to spend. I am interested to learn what you look for as I am looking for a new tent.
How did you possibly end up spending 1100 British Pounds on an Allak 2??? I got mine for $900. So 645 Pounds.
Just been watching your review, and you said you haven;t slept in/used the cloud peak 2. So how can you do a proper review and comparison? Seriously? Shouldn't you have used it in a number of hikes, in various weather conditions to be able to be convincing and competent?
1100 quid for a tent? The fuck? A few sparks from the fire and it’s shite! I’m happy with my Banshee! Fuck all use in Ireland, pisses rain here all the time
Its ok to say u wud buy it. What's the crime ? Shud we be embarrassed or ashamed cuz we but quality stuff? Why do we need to hide that? all I buy is hilleberg. We shud stand proud. I save. I have multiple hillebergs. Their great gear but why does everyone feel bad and hide in their words the fact we like nice stuff. Nice shit rules. Wud u buy Versace and then be ashamed.? Wud u buy quality gear knowing its gonna protect u and not fail and keep u alive in the conditions it's built for. This allak will keep you safe and alive and secure. The nature hike will fail and put u in danger so quickly. Its not trustworthy when ur out and against the elements. Its a gamble. Hilleberg serves a purpose.
While I'm sure the helleberg is a great tent, it's never worth £1200 or whatever, no tent is.....well, perhaps a circus tent would be decent value at £1200. The naturehike is clearly a copy but looks decent and going from TH-cam reviews out in the fields, it holds up well. Thanks for the video, at least you're honest.
Great review/comparison. Certainly itching to go out there. I still don't understand why tent manufacturers don't agree on a minimum standard of at least 220cm in length. Would make life much easier for tall hikers, and those who wish to store their gear inside their tent instead of the porch area.
Well Hazeeeey you managed to get me into the mountains walking and off my Motorcycle.I Managed styhead tarn first trip with my sack 2 dogs and a go pro. Made me lunch looking towards Scarfell Pike with the Gable behind me. Had a blast and my dogs quit before the decent which caused a few issues. Glad I didn't Proceed to the Pike or I might of need a airlift for the dogs that would have been a good one for the tube. Anyhow small tent time but what's the best under £200 2 man 3 season tent that I can stay alive in if I come across a freak snow storm in summer. Ade
I agree with you about garden camping. Was going to tonight and thought what a stupid idea when my bed and air-conditioning are just 15 metres away. Lol! And so what is the problem with the tent... we have to throw away our conscience understanding that it's been developed by cheap labour and stolen intellectual property.
I must say that I really like this person's videos I like the humour he injects into his videos they're very interesting and very so topmarks on that regard. Regarding the video where he compares so nice hike cloud peak 2 to the hilleberg allak 2. I'm really thrilled this family got the money together for his birthday and bought in the I like to that's a wonderful gesture they've got a fantastic tent real top quality it's like the Bentley of tents. I have the cloud peak 2. And it's fantastic tent I got it for a great price you can't knock it all naturehike tents fantastic and they're all the great price. But to use the whole video as an ego boosting exercise to promote the hilleberg tent I thought was childish and frivolous
Regarding sticky zips. Try a can of silicone spray. Works great as a lubricant on curtain rails. And it doesn't smell like WD40.
Cloud peak 2 currently £120 from aliexpress.
Thats a bargain for sure.
Good review mate.
I'm personally in the get out and camp camp, Balls to lockdown. Just waiting for the rain to stop, then i;m gonna get out and camp, but keep it stealthy and local.
I do love a true freestanding tent, i wouldnt buy anything else and ans for copy/knock offs, a goot design is just a good design, im surprised every company doesnt have one like this, look at the snugpak Bunker?
Only hillerberg tents all the way the only tents for me!!! Its the only tent for my adventures!
Weight and practicality are also issues, 3.3kg vs 2kg
yes what can i say the cloud peak 2 yes my next tent mate i first seen and fell in love with it on wild wales review and yes as im out of work at the mo its a great choice and as for the rain dripping in when you open the door is a sponge or mr paul mesner do what i do when its been raining is before you open the door give the tent a little shake solves that problem but don,t get me wrong i luv the allak 2 if i wanted to spend that sort of money but we can all dream great review hazey good comparision mate they do look alike untill you get in the allak but im still learning only been into wild camping a year and luving it luv my winter camps but havn,t got the tent for it i only have a eurohike tamar 2 which never lets me down
Sorry mate.
Just like many others you've got it wrong!
With the Hilleberg tents you are not paying for the brand name. You are paying for the know how and quality. They invented the PERFECT tent, and most just make a cheap copy. Its as simple as that. If the production of the tent is lets say £300 and the rest is for the company, you say its the brand name I say it is the know how, I personally am more then happy to pay for the know how. And also I am MORE then happy to pay for quality. Quality is impossible to measure in terms of money, so if Hilleberg estimates quality and everything that comes with it, like your tent lasting your whole life or not collapsing in extreme conditions, I am happy to pay. In this case £800.
How do you measure a failed trip in winter when your tent collapses in money? You don't. Rather support quality products, European production and smart people like the Hillebergs.
Thx.
I'd say you are paying for the name, but that's because it's a name worth paying for. You don't spend that kind of money just to say you own a Hilleberg and only garden camp in summer. It's for people like Haze and Paul Messner and another channel I follow in Norway/Sweden, Erik Normark. As you say if you had a tent collapse in winter it would be a disaster and could mean your life, so in that sense £1000 is worth every penny, that you have the confidence to go to extreme environments and enjoy yourself knowing you'll be safe.
I remember being in S.France years ago hitch-hiking and looking for work, and one rough stormy night me and my mate we're hanging on to the tent poles inside to try and keep it from collapsing, absolute nightmare and I couldn't imagine trying to deal with that on a mountain.
I currently have the Robens Starlite 2 but once finances allow I'm thinking about going for a Hilly. Torn between the Tarra and the Nammatj 2GT. The vestibule on the latter is amazing but the Tarra is free standing and I like the idea of doors either end and that it's the strongest 2 man of all the Hilleberg tents.
@@marko9912 Hilleberg said many times they will stick with tents and will not expand in other areas. That's the reason you are paying for the know how and quality and not for the brand. Everybody is branching out to as much areas as possible, like MSR has brilliant products but not so good (compared to Hilleberg) tents, etc.
Nevertheless I highly recommend a Hilleberg, I have a Soulo and its th best piece of gear I ever bought!
@@marko9912 I’ve had exactly the conditions you describe where I was holding onto / bracing the poles of a tent in a storm, but i actually was on a mountain with no real prospect of escaping until the storm had passed in the morning.
This was in a £60, 4 season tent with additional guys.
It was warping badly in 80MPH winds and I was sat upright with my backpack on, bracing the walls, it was that bad. After about 2 hours, knackered, I reasoned that it was a 4 season tent, pitched well, should last the night, so I let go, laid down and waited to see how long it would last.
About 20 mins. 2/3 poles snapped and I found myself in a world of cold / wet. Checked my watch, it was 21:30, that was one long night, went from camping to survival.
3 tents went down that night, all of us got hypothermia.
So I bought a Hilleberg Soulo, which has shrugged off 60MPH winds and I’m confident it would have not only survived that night, but with the inner removed, accommodated all 3 of us.
where you from? Sounds like your from God's own country Yorkshire?
Interesting but I simply cant see any justification of the 1100 price tag.
Hi mate cloud peak 2 or the helm 2 which one you going with if you had to pick one cheers.Keep up the good work
This is the first time I’ve come across your channel. It won’t be the last! Really connected about garden camping 🤣.
Thanks for the vid👍
I don't like tents, you can't see what is going on outside and they give no protection but if that is all I have then it's not as bad as rain on your sleeping bag.
I have that nostalgic attachment to my old cheap Eurohike 2 man dome tent which I still have. I lived in it for 2 months on an ocean cliff top in Cornwall in winter. Nothing extreme, but there were many bad windy and rainy nights. It held up pretty well and never leaked. Condensation was sometimes an issue, but for a £50 tent it was amazing!
You must be crazy to hike with a 2.5Kg tent, i've done it.
Yes Hazey! I spotted this on your insta post. Have been waiting for you to do this. I Knew it would happen eventually, top man 🙂👍
Yes, there are cheap and good tents out there but they are rare as hens teeth - If you want to buy a cheap tent then choose carefully and buy a can of seam sealer!
In times like these Hazy your vids are a much needed tonic mate. Looking forward to your kit for 2021 vid too. Let’s hope we can wake under them there skies ASAP!
Drinking Northern Monk, watching Haze talk about tents, perfect.
Should be for £1100 😂 absolute ripoff!
What is the diameter of the poles of the Cloud Peak 2?
Mate I bought the cloud peak 2 off aliexpress recently for 120 euros as I could never afford the money for the HILLEBERG. like you said probably not good in strong winds but it rained all night and I stayed nice and dry. You forgot to mention the cargo storage above the foot end I managed to put alot up there.
Absolutely! Same tents are 50% off on AliExpress in China vs. bought on Amazon (who buy them in China as well).
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