The Megami Tensei II Experience

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  • An extended review/discussion of Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei II for the Famicom, created by Atlus in 1990. How does it hold up compared to the first, and is it worth playing this version today? Let’s go on a little tour of Tokyo and check it out.

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  • @MarshSMT
    @MarshSMT  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1564

    I don't think the universe wanted me to publish this - the editing software crashed numerous times, I ran into audio issues, and it killed my headset. In fact, it had its last breath like ten minutes ago, so this game effectively was the last thing it heard. Hope it was worth the effort, sorry it took so long. As promised, Soul Hackers is next, and I have an idea for a shorter review coming up in the near future.

    • @MohammadAhmad-sf6by
      @MohammadAhmad-sf6by 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      That sucks

    • @rynenapier1095
      @rynenapier1095 3 ปีที่แล้ว +158

      your sacrifices are appreciated cause these reviews are gold

    • @demiv7110
      @demiv7110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Exactly. The sacrifice was well worth the review. Also, good luck on finding a new mic!

    • @pwnmonkey23
      @pwnmonkey23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Lmk if you want another headset. I'd love to send some support your way.

    • @ils4844
      @ils4844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What's the editing software you use?

  • @irl_lizard7880
    @irl_lizard7880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +556

    I'm playing the fan translation and there is an NPC in the Princess Hotel there's an NPC that says, "You're planning to kill the witch in Tokyo Tower, yeah? As long as she remains on her magic seal, her power is amplified exponentially." So there is actually an explanation for why she's so much less powerful when she's in your party.

    • @RussoBelmont
      @RussoBelmont ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Yes, because Rossana (The name confirmed by Atlus of the female protagonist) in her magic seal is level 100 (Reason why it kills you and your party in one attack) but when she is your new partner, she is at the level just as you left her in the Devil Busters game (and to top it off, with nothing of the equipment she had in Devil Busters itself)

    • @anthonykarnes6804
      @anthonykarnes6804 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Link?

    • @SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs
      @SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@anthonykarnes6804 play the fan translation.... there won't be a link saying word for word what OP wrote, and if there is then you'll find it by using this amazing new website....... called Google.

  • @no64256
    @no64256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1666

    >Walk into store
    >Think it's some kinda women's clothing store
    >Buy a shitton of stuff while having no idea what your buying
    >Told to pick between you and your friend
    >Get kicked out of store severely injured and paralyzed
    >Realise the sign said "Drug" and not "Drag"
    >Realise it was a hard drug store and that you overdosed on mystery needles
    >Proceed to get your demon dog killed in an underground fight club
    11/10 would Marsh again

    • @matheusmoreira9951
      @matheusmoreira9951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Isn't that what the song Walk on the Wild Side is all about?

    • @realpastastrainer
      @realpastastrainer ปีที่แล้ว +15

      based and marshpilled

    • @RadikAlice
      @RadikAlice ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@matheusmoreira9951 🤣 I mean, close enough

    • @ojgsk8ter
      @ojgsk8ter ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@matheusmoreira9951 everything except the demon dog fighting - although that is heavily implied by the songs lyrics.

  • @averagecomedyenjoyer9518
    @averagecomedyenjoyer9518 3 ปีที่แล้ว +409

    59:29 Friendship ENDED with Lucifer, now god is my best friend.

    • @daniellatorre2490
      @daniellatorre2490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      SMTV in a comment

    • @stan5794
      @stan5794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      YHWHgaming

    • @pokelogikx
      @pokelogikx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      IDK lucifer looked p chill in this one

    • @irsshill4502
      @irsshill4502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Millennial kingdom let's go

    • @ya-kiri794
      @ya-kiri794 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can see that being slapped on a bumper sticker.

  • @yoshimitzu111
    @yoshimitzu111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +357

    Finally the lord and saviour is back to bestow his blessings upon us mortals.

  • @justanotherguywithamoustac8893
    @justanotherguywithamoustac8893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1890

    Within the span of 3 minutes, this man overdosed on drugs, got his dog killed in a dog fight, and divorced his gay husband.
    This game is great

    • @augustocesar5191
      @augustocesar5191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +261

      And later had his friend handjob a oldman, lost his arm and participated in a satanic orgy
      This game is a masterpiece in terms of story writing lmao

    • @notbaldfrost
      @notbaldfrost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +185

      And let’s not forget when he was afflicted with PIG and _committed suicide_ to free himself from his macabre fate of spending eternity as a chubby suid on a little island in Hell. While Lucifer sat there twiddling his thumbs.

    • @arashi86
      @arashi86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      MegaTen II is art, confirmed.

    • @gayrozayppeli8431
      @gayrozayppeli8431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      @@arashi86 There's a reason why it influenced such a big franchise

    • @AmonsRealm
      @AmonsRealm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I have not played this game but WHAT?

  • @rogercheetoofficial
    @rogercheetoofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +443

    here's a quick fact, since i am unfamiliar with megaten 2;
    "drug" and "drag" can be put into romaji the exact same way, so it's entirely natural to make the mistake shown in the video if you're not very fluent in japanese

    • @notbaldfrost
      @notbaldfrost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      She also asks you right after if you want to try “Mayumi-chan’s special medicine”, so make of that what you will...

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I mean, aside from questions of why you'd expect a store selling women's clothes to be called a drag store and not...a clothing store. (Actually, _are_ there stores catered to men who want to buy women's clothes? That doesn't _sound_ like a thing, it seems like a plain ol' women's clothing store would make more sense, but...)

    • @newironside
      @newironside ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@timothymclean There are drag stores

    • @Ryu1ify
      @Ryu1ify 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@notbaldfrostThat's just the drag queen propositioning the protag

  • @AceOfROMs
    @AceOfROMs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +817

    Gets arm chopped off
    "aww"
    Get new robot arm
    "yay!"
    Doesn't do anything cool
    "aww"

    • @pablotomasllodra4423
      @pablotomasllodra4423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Didn’t it add more space for demons?

    • @shdjdj7135
      @shdjdj7135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      And punch yhvh with his normal arm (right arm)

    • @gayrozayppeli8431
      @gayrozayppeli8431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@pablotomasllodra4423 I think it's in the kyuuyaku version? I'm not sure unfortunately

    • @thatitalianlameguy2235
      @thatitalianlameguy2235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      No DMC5 cool devil breaker shenanigans

    • @Zakkious
      @Zakkious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@gayrozayppeli8431 It is. I'm playing it rn and it does add more space for demons

  • @JohneAwesome
    @JohneAwesome 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1045

    Never seen that Baal sprite before, ty Marshall for the epic video this game is pretty neat if you cut out every single random battle ever, and how many of these concepts were brought into SMTIV.

    • @AshleyRiot
      @AshleyRiot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I never knew that. Thanks Johne.

    • @its_heeho
      @its_heeho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Oh hi Johne

    • @closettweeb2127
      @closettweeb2127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Oh shit wassup johne

    • @GrubQueenMarisa
      @GrubQueenMarisa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      JIMMYAMAZING???

    • @fervcorsica3358
      @fervcorsica3358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AshleyRiot i dont get your comment. you never knew what?

  • @TectonicImprov
    @TectonicImprov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +846

    Marsh reveals himself to be a Law sympathizer: the Movie

    • @Green-Raccoon777
      @Green-Raccoon777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      Now where's the Devil Survivor experience? He needs to be introduced to the Chad Remiel before the Virgin Mastema and his fangirls spoil him.

    • @flashystarwinger
      @flashystarwinger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      TectonicImprov ew.

    • @sociallyawkard5675
      @sociallyawkard5675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@Green-Raccoon777 that aint first person get that shit outta here

    • @arbatel8648
      @arbatel8648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Based

    • @Stitchiols06
      @Stitchiols06 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sociallyawkard5675 lol

  • @jordansheen2571
    @jordansheen2571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    Undine = water
    Gnome = earth
    Slyph = air
    In Paracelsus's alchemical system, I'm sure there a part of the game were you would need Salamander (fire) to proceed.

    • @CoolF41lur3
      @CoolF41lur3 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Actually, there is a Salamander, I was playing right now trying to figure out what to fuse and one of the fusion recipes was Coin Knight X Jack Frost = Salamander

    • @paulo_roberto900
      @paulo_roberto900 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh my goodness!!
      Where have you heard about Paracelsus’ alchemical system from?

  • @IncrediblyUnfunny
    @IncrediblyUnfunny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +267

    Despite already reading up on the entire plot of Shin Megami Tensei II, it took me a disturbingly long 40 minutes to realize this wasn't that game, and that, in fact, Megami Tensei and Shin Megami Tensei are two entirely different series. I really did just sit there for 40 minutes thinking "man that whole thing about the Center, Zayin, Beth, and the Millennium Kingdom is taking a pretty long time to start up"

    • @dream_state
      @dream_state ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Wait so they're not the same? 😂

    • @IncrediblyUnfunny
      @IncrediblyUnfunny ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@dream_state Essentially, the 2 Megami Tensei games came first and take heavy inspiration from the Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei light novel, Shin Megami Tensei came out after those games and takes hardly any inspiration from the light novel. iirc Marsh's going to review SMT2 after he's done with Majin Tensei which I'm really looking forward to, from what I remember the plot of SMT 2 is absolutely bonkers

    • @PLATINUM_Rook
      @PLATINUM_Rook ปีที่แล้ว +15

      ​@@dream_stateFirst there was a book by Aya Nishitani called Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei, then Atlus turned it into a video game for the Famicom, then they started telling their own stories with Megami Tensei II, then they made Shin Megami Tensei, then Shin Megami Tensei II, which are original stories unrelated to the previous games.
      There is a Super Famicom game called Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei, which is an SNES remake of Megami Tensei and Megami Tensei II.

    • @westonmeyer3110
      @westonmeyer3110 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@dream_state
      Megami Tensei 2 is the prototype for Shin Megami Tensei 1.
      Megami Tensei 1 was based on the novels and Megami Tensei 2 was when Atlus used the name to draw attention to their own original work but eventually they realized they didn’t need the name anymore and decided to redo Megami Tensei 2 with a whole new name and a bigger scale in terms of the story so SMT was born.

  • @chazmaru9583
    @chazmaru9583 3 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    "What the hell is this supposed to be, Disneyland!?"
    Hmm yeah actually, based on the design and rough location, I am pretty sure that is supposed to be a demon-infested parody of Disneyland Tokyo. I don’t know the FC version much but, in the SFC remake, it is located in a place called Yume no Shima (Island of Dreams). Disneyland Tokyo was also present in SMT1 as the Destiny Land dungeon (I guess the reference was more obvious there).
    Nice series of videos, thanks!

    • @MarshSMT
      @MarshSMT  3 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      I wasn't even thinking that it actually could be Disneyland, it was more just a jab at how the castle sprite looks - someone else commented this too and I think you're right

  • @TARINunit9
    @TARINunit9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    Funny fact about Checkman, he doesn't just function as a terminal. They literally just replaced him with actual terminals in the Kyuuyaku remake

  • @photonman0018
    @photonman0018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    "we were out there having the time of our lives"
    literally just killed himself like 15 seconds ago

  • @vonithipathachai8449
    @vonithipathachai8449 3 ปีที่แล้ว +218

    Funny how Asmodeus's Cave is apparently this game's "red colon" dungeon in a way that Zaratan Island, the actual colon dungeon, isn't

  • @ChibiKami
    @ChibiKami 3 ปีที่แล้ว +396

    canon names, courtesy of SMT wiki. Multiple sources for a given character may exist (manga, drama CDs, etc):
    hero: Hideto or Takuma
    friend: Senda or Ryu
    girl: Rosanna or Asuka (which, since you named her Rei, is hilarious)

    • @mortenera2294
      @mortenera2294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      I'm an Evangelion fan, and I laughed hard

    • @xercespriest
      @xercespriest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      SHINJI, GET ON THE GIANT TURTLE!!!

    • @mortenera2294
      @mortenera2294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@xercespriest Asuka: Uses Marin Karin on Shinji

    • @Suesserto_000
      @Suesserto_000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@mortenera2294 Shinji is now -charmed- Distressed.

    • @letthebasscannon223
      @letthebasscannon223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      apparently "Hideto" and "Rosanna" are a reference to some musical act that was popular at the time

  • @heeho3360
    @heeho3360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +514

    I don't mean any offence by this, but your videos are perfect for putting on repeat many times in the background while studying after the first time watch - I probably have the script to your Devil Summoner video memorised by now!

    • @vargas7224
      @vargas7224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      That’s crazy

    • @devinacho
      @devinacho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Holy shit same but with the Digital Devil Story one

    • @Ty_Jac
      @Ty_Jac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      i get you man. I actually did the same for his smt if vid. Somethin about the voice and the commentary has me coming back to the vids.

    • @videorelaxant2780
      @videorelaxant2780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I do this when I draw or animate. Marsh if you see this thanks.

    • @lilhikaru8361
      @lilhikaru8361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Now thats pretty weird

  • @KrankuSama
    @KrankuSama 3 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    I don't see any coverage of old megaten titles so this content is gold to me, much appreciated marsh

  • @cancer4cure483
    @cancer4cure483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    There was a weird amount demonic anime in the 80s, stuff like Devilman, Demon City Shinjuku and Doomed Megalopolis for example. So no wonder there is an NES game with a naked goat demon. Nice video, I really appreciate your effort.

    • @andrejg4136
      @andrejg4136 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      The 80s were a time for mecha, the occult, and occult mecha

    • @dartoney
      @dartoney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@andrejg4136 so Evangelion is the 80s then?

    • @andrejg4136
      @andrejg4136 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@dartoney Occult Mecha goes before Evangelion. See the Iczer metaseries, and various mecha and power armored themed OVAs, like Genocyber.

    • @modeus9592
      @modeus9592 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And all goodness too

    • @ArkhanNightman
      @ArkhanNightman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      For some reason Gnosticism became a fad for a while in Japan.

  • @MapleMilk
    @MapleMilk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +365

    An hour long video?
    Good for entertainment
    Bad for Education
    (Also Marsh's sanity)

  • @knightornstein5902
    @knightornstein5902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    16:48 A real Simp Megami Tensei moment.

  • @unknown6390
    @unknown6390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    You're a champion for doing all this hard work! I'm glad to see another MegaTen content creator growing and I've really enjoyed your reviews since I discovered the "SMT If Experience". As long as it doesn't kill you, keep it up!

  • @UltimaPhoenix-dx3kt
    @UltimaPhoenix-dx3kt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +184

    56:53
    "And we head back to Ginza for the final confrontation against Satan and God"
    Idk why this is so funny to me lmao

    • @MarshSMT
      @MarshSMT  3 ปีที่แล้ว +126

      I always thought it was funny that of all places, God is apparently beneath Ginza in some unsuspecting corporate office

    • @loserinasuit7880
      @loserinasuit7880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      @@MarshSMT He had some leftover paperwork before the fall of man.

    • @hummwee_3218
      @hummwee_3218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      It's pretty much comparable to, "we are heading to our local 7/11 to fight Darth Vader and Darth Maul

  • @Force-hiddenmasquerade
    @Force-hiddenmasquerade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    “In this game you don’t really know where to go”
    I had the same problem in SMT IV man. At this point I think it’s a mainstay in the JRPG genre lol

    • @wubbawubba3396
      @wubbawubba3396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I have no idea why, but it was really just SMT IV that had that problem in the modern SMT series. Strange journey had a few weird paths forward, but I have never been as confused as in IV, so dont worry about feeling lost in that game, _everyone gets lost in IV_

    • @DeadLineGame
      @DeadLineGame 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@wubbawubba3396 honestly getting lost in smt iv makes the tokyo song that more impacting

    • @wubbawubba3396
      @wubbawubba3396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@DeadLineGame Fr tho. Thank God the Tokyo song was so soothing; if it weren't for it, I would've popped a blood vessel.

    • @Sigismund697
      @Sigismund697 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@wubbawubba3396 I'm just glad they added tags on Apocalypse made traversing the game that much easier

    • @chamclamtv
      @chamclamtv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Sigismund697 i feel like they streamlined it too much in Apocalypse, felt like a simple level select to me.

  • @avalen767
    @avalen767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    This is some of the best Megaten content out there. It's great to get a real in-depth look into what these older/more obscure(in the West) MT games are like.

  • @Zakkious
    @Zakkious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    The Kyuuyaku version is way more bearable, Marsh, trust me. I'm playing it at the moment and (aside from the usual grinding) it improves quite a lot from the original version

    • @KeyleeTamirian
      @KeyleeTamirian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      NES version still looks prettier...

    • @Zakkious
      @Zakkious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@KeyleeTamirian somehow, yes. The SNES version looks awfully dated.

    • @underscore2554
      @underscore2554 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@KeyleeTamirianall of the npc interactions like shops and stuff look so much nicer than kyuuyaku, kyuuyaku’s demons look good tho

    • @thomasffrench3639
      @thomasffrench3639 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ZakkiousI mean music and visuals only look good because of the designers.

    • @Zakkious
      @Zakkious 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thomasffrench3639 Yep. The NES version has really good art for the NES, while Kyuuyaku has pretty mediocre art for the SNES (just compare it to SMT 1 and 2)

  • @_Koyomi_
    @_Koyomi_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    This was well worth the wait. You're the goat for tormenting yourself for our enlightenment and enjoyment.

    • @Squiddy0912
      @Squiddy0912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Baphomet is the goat.

    • @unfunny_idiot
      @unfunny_idiot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Squiddy0912 leonard*

  • @Hiro_Shizue
    @Hiro_Shizue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Another instant classic by someone simply called “The Man”. Marsh, you’ve done it again. Looking forward to Soul Hackers, though I hope to finish it before you finish the video on it.

    • @appelofdoom8211
      @appelofdoom8211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And did you?

    • @Hiro_Shizue
      @Hiro_Shizue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@appelofdoom8211 I did! I did the secret fights as well! It was as hype as it was fucking difficult.

  • @ph43draaa
    @ph43draaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +257

    Just mind-boggling that this is a NES game

    • @zachb4148
      @zachb4148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      By far the best NES game, I love Zelda and Fire emblem but man this game is just a whole step above. I think if this game got a modern remake it could be as good as any mainline game.

    • @underscore2554
      @underscore2554 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@zachb4148Zelda 1 and 2 are just too good and with less of the unfair bs this game can throw at you. This is easily the best NES JRPG, and it’s actually super ambitious, but Zelda 1 is great and isn’t super dated aside from graphics and sometimes cryptic directions

    • @thomasffrench3639
      @thomasffrench3639 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@underscore2554I mean we also have Dragon Quest III and Sweet Home. I haven’t play this one tho.

    • @nobblesavage2848
      @nobblesavage2848 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Zelda 1? Nah. I think ever in 80s it is a 3rate copy of xanadu-like games from PC's. How can anyone can compare it to Megami Tensei, not II, just at least I?

  • @gayrozayppeli8431
    @gayrozayppeli8431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Okay here's the bigger comment I promised!
    it's a great, fantastic video. And definitely taught me a lot of stuff about the NES version. There's a couple of differences between this and the Kyuuyaku version, namely being that you don't actually get Checkmate the totem pole guy. No, he's replaced with the terminals from smt 1 onwards. So that's certainly something. Also some neater stuff includes the art style being shifted more towards how smt 1 and co. were presented. But the real gravitas of megami tensei II, imo, is lost until you've played the rest of the megaten franchise.
    The first being that this was the debut game of Kazuma Kaneko. A lot of these artworks were some of the basis for demon designs in the future and just the general look of the world. And how good and evil were handled were to inspire how the mainline franchise handled law and chaos, especially with how Lucifer and YHVH would be represented from then on, and how they'd represent their respective ideals. Hell, even tokyo played a bigger part here. It's genuinely great to go back and play megaten 2 since I love mainline. Also, this game is the first appearance of our beloved Jack Frost(albeit with a different design; but still!)
    This game is so influential and its effects are still felt in the series to this day. Even with SMT V on the horizon.

    • @CrashWeezerman
      @CrashWeezerman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It'd be awesome if someone makes a rom hack for kyuuyaku megami tensei that adds checkman back into the game. He's too weird and cool to replace like that.

    • @gayrozayppeli8431
      @gayrozayppeli8431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@CrashWeezerman I think it'd be hard considering the hardware between NES and SNES are so different and how they'd have to write dialogue and make sprites.
      But it's definitely possible. Maybe one dya

    • @toryficarola
      @toryficarola 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everything he said is the YHVH honest truth and the greatest post of them all in this comments section. Sadly I only played the Kyuuyaku version of this game so I missed out on Checkman.

    • @KeyleeTamirian
      @KeyleeTamirian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I just realized that SMT3 Nocturne Terminals are Checkman

  • @shogus0046
    @shogus0046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    You are easily among my favorite content creators at the moment. The videos have all been god tier so far, keep it up!

  • @marinarainfermo
    @marinarainfermo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Can't believe this finally got an english translation! I've been interested in playing since I saw your video, and I think it's finally pleb-accessible 👍

  • @kakizakichannel
    @kakizakichannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    For the record, intelligence is used for demon negotiation in all three SNESMT games

  • @johneduchene6532
    @johneduchene6532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Your videos have such an early 2000's webseries vibe, I love it.

  • @blaze45ful
    @blaze45ful 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The main character lost his arm, fight with his best friend, drug himself to the point of almost kill himself, a get into a satanic orgy, duude, that is indeed one hell of a trip!

  • @knorkstea606
    @knorkstea606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    This channel made me interested in smt and now I have completed strange journey redux, p4g, soul hackers, persona 2 innocent sin and smt 2
    Thanks for introducing me to my now favourite game series ever

  • @ThatOneLegendEmerald
    @ThatOneLegendEmerald 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    YESSSSSS WOOOOO thank you for being one of the last good parts of this fandom

    • @rangedfighter2663
      @rangedfighter2663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah really

    • @ThatOneLegendEmerald
      @ThatOneLegendEmerald 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rangedfighter2663 Phan Site drama, modding scene having bad people....it is rough.

    • @rangedfighter2663
      @rangedfighter2663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@ThatOneLegendEmerald I knew what happened with phan site but what happened with modding.

    • @ils4844
      @ils4844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ThatOneLegendEmerald The modding scene has terrible people? Well no wonder it's mismanaged

    • @gayrozayppeli8431
      @gayrozayppeli8431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah what happened wth the modding scene?

  • @roufaspentaghast1636
    @roufaspentaghast1636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I love that you just rolled with Charlies early death and had to make a small event out of bringing him back. Can't wait to see your next video Marsh.

  • @babagryva5954
    @babagryva5954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I am overjoyed, ill never get sick of seeing the really weird obscure megatens, i just beat soul hackers myself a few days ago and im excited for your review, thanks for being very cool man

  • @demiv7110
    @demiv7110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Review Megami Tensei at 1:00 AM in the morning on a school night... Hell yeah!

  • @HansAlRachid
    @HansAlRachid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Regarding the controversy over your character losing an arm - as I understand it, dismemberment is considered a very different thing in japanese (pop) culture than it is in the west. Can't exactly remember the historical/sociological reasons, but yeah, for the purposes of storytelling it's more extreme for a character to lose a limb than for them to die over there. Especially back in the 90s it would have to have been extremely provocative to have such a scene in a videogame.

    • @Ryu1ify
      @Ryu1ify 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Empire Strikes Back must be X-rated over there

    • @HansAlRachid
      @HansAlRachid 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Ryu1ify I'd assume the emotional impact of that scene would just be more intense and would make Darth Vader seem even more evil/intimidating to the average viewer.
      Sociological connotations are weird in general - it's kinda like how when an American film wants an antagonist to look _truly_ despicable or irredeemable, it'll specifically show them hurting dogs in some way. Even outright murder of another human being isn't quite as evil in film language in that sense.

    • @Ryu1ify
      @Ryu1ify 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@HansAlRachid Wonder how the revelation that Vader had already been maimed in much the same way was taken in Return

  • @GanonAutumn777
    @GanonAutumn777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    As Akihiko usually say every battle: "IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS" xD
    I love the fact you covered the original megaten 2 as most people who cover the first two megaten games cover the kyuuyaku remakes on the SNES

  • @Moayad56
    @Moayad56 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I swear this man is just flexing his Japanese skills at this point

    • @Circ00mspice
      @Circ00mspice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      *Confuses "drug" with "drag"*

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "I mistook a drug dealer for a women's clothing store" is a weird flex, but okay.

  • @goby1764
    @goby1764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    This channel is one of the things that's been making 2020 alright

  • @yosukehanamura1870
    @yosukehanamura1870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Big fan, A channel that isn't just persona. It's nice to see the origins of Smt. Inspired me to start with the first megami tensei.

  • @NEETKitten
    @NEETKitten 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Coming back to this video, it's kinda funny how the game that started so many Megaten traditions also started a lot of Marsh's traditions. Charlie and Rei becoming mainstays, being regularly assaulted by a Minotaur, somehow managing to get something killed (usually Orthrus or his partner) within the first 20 minutes of the video, and just all the minor, weird goofy little things that became sort of running gags.
    Thank you Digital Devil Story Megami Tensei II. Who knows where we'd be right now without you.

  • @incandescentlamp
    @incandescentlamp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Losing your arm in Megami Tensei 2 is such a memorable moment and I'd love to see a throwback to it in a future Megaten game but given more significance.

  • @gayrozayppeli8431
    @gayrozayppeli8431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Holy shit I've been waiting so eagerly for this you don't know.
    Loved Megaten II when I played it. I'll probably write something more comprehensive once I finish

  • @NeviTheLettyFan
    @NeviTheLettyFan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I enjoy your commentary on these so much, the audio quality got better and some jokes like the upside cross one made me laugh a lot
    Seriously, thank you so much for doing these! It's so great to have more lovely content on Megami Tensei
    ---
    28:35 Holy shit there's Makai in this game?
    36:41 I swear, your comedic time is on point here
    45:32 lmaooo ''the classic red dungeon that looks like a colon inside''
    54:10 What a cool looking sprite
    What a lovely review, thank you so much for your efforts!

  • @isauldron4337
    @isauldron4337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Glad to see you're back at it again man
    RIP Marsh's heaset, it died to help create this video

  • @XelchanTheBrave
    @XelchanTheBrave 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    Interesting to see how many of the series' staples started with this one.
    Another thing I appreciate is that this is where Atlus started taking inspiration from Devilman (the original manga). Apocalypse setting aside, it must be where they took Satan encased in ice from, which in turn was taken from the Divine Comedy. It's amazing how many demon-related japanese media can be traced back to Devilman and then to the Divine Comedy.

    • @frog6054
      @frog6054 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Devilman is a great and a very influential manga for its time.

  • @kingdongho571
    @kingdongho571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    It's so cool to see how creative and low-key crazy these games already were back then.

  • @riam850
    @riam850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Fact that you need Gnome may seems weird at first, but you use it because it's an earth spirit.
    Previously you had to use water spirit Undine to progress, so it kinda makes sense that you would need another one again.
    The only weird thing is that wind spirit Sylph is only used to free Sword Knight, that you don't need to progress and the fire spirit Salamander don't have any special events.

  • @akuro6470
    @akuro6470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Thank you for letting me vicariously live through the games I'd likely not get around to myself through your videos

  • @Shonic567
    @Shonic567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I really wish you got more recognition for the work you put in these videos man, you go the extra mile instead of doing the minimum, plus these videos are charming and pretty humorous

  • @FunneeAlgernon
    @FunneeAlgernon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Yooo, thanks so much for doing this! I know it's a cliche to say, but you really deserve more subs for doing this series.
    As niche as the series is, our community really is just small as a result, but I want you to know that your content is truly appreciated!
    Your series actually got me trying the old games, and although I'm not at all averse to "older" games (I remember beating DQ I-IV, and how that really shaped my patience for RPGs in general, even to this day), I unfortunately just can't appreciate the older MegaTen games, which makes your videos on the older games that much more valuable to me.
    However, it did get me to play Soul Hackers on the 3DS, a game I've been putting off for a long time since the first few hours just didn't at all jive with me and get me interested. Once I saw your Devil Summoner vid, it got me in the "right" state of mind to actually appreciate it now, to the point that I'm commenting this when I know I'm gonna face the final boss in a few hours (I will NG+ for the new content, though).
    It also makes me bummed that there are no more Devil Summoner games, aside from the Raidou games (which I've already finished).
    Anyway, thanks again for everything you do! And I hope your sanity is well...

  • @julienreviews8988
    @julienreviews8988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love watching your videos it makes me feel like your a friend who's just telling me about a game I never thought would be interesting but some how you pull it off

  • @cj_iwakura
    @cj_iwakura 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It's eerie to see how many things in later games from this, right down to THE FINAL DUNGEON OF IV BEING LUCIFER'S PALACE.

  • @paz8723
    @paz8723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I know it sounds mean, but I can really imagine this review being made in the early 2010's.
    A real nostalgic feeling.

  • @elfiebranford9330
    @elfiebranford9330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have literally been anxiously waiting in excitement for this upload, thank you Marsh!!

  • @professionalfangster1510
    @professionalfangster1510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mr. Marshall, you truly have inspired me. You've shown me that you don't need hyper-editing and an amazing setup to be a good youtuber, but just good and straight to the point content. I love your videos. I will always support you. Good day to you, sir, and have a great week.

    • @DracXBelmont
      @DracXBelmont 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      this is true for like, a lot of youtubers, though.

  • @Zylo587
    @Zylo587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Trying to have Mrs. Reiho carry you through another Megaten game, Marsh?
    I'd try the same.

  • @_Claus_
    @_Claus_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yesterday I was wondering about you, if you had uploaded without me getting a notification or something. This was a really nice surprise to wake up to. Thanks for the content

  • @bobgray6498
    @bobgray6498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    This game seems wild. Can you imagine if this was released in America back then? lol I loved the video

    • @theazureknight9399
      @theazureknight9399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      80s America's mainstream media would flip for sure.

    • @ianr7014
      @ianr7014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Every Woman Jobs To The Wall This is the same US that flipped its collective shit when Mortal Kombat came out.
      You’re vastly underestimating how worse things were back then lmao

    • @AdrianGonzalez-sh7qm
      @AdrianGonzalez-sh7qm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ianr7014 nah nah nah you gotta dig deeper. Imagine losing your shit over a yellow rat. Conservatives hated Pokémon.

    • @ianr7014
      @ianr7014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AdrianGonzalez-sh7qm Pokemon was the 90s, though. Before that, the big thing was Dungeons and Dragons lmao
      Conservatives would’ve firebombed the offices of whatever company in the US tried to distribute the game

    • @jimmywhite6863
      @jimmywhite6863 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If this game had been localized back then, it would have been heavily censored to remove/edit any satanic references. There would probably even be huge changes to the story and the box art would be completely redone for sure.

  • @notbaldfrost
    @notbaldfrost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Bloody amazing video, really captured the Experience. Not a lot to say, except that the robo-arm is a COMP capacity upgrade and the Kyuuyaku manual’s art of the protagonist with it is actually pretty cool. Plus, hey, it _is_ bite-proof!
    Also...
    1:33 ...yeah, I always noticed that the Japanese megaten community can’t stop calling all the protags Nakajima and Yumiko. That goes for any retro megaten, and Gangerdoppel even pulls out Nakajima on other RPGs sometimes for the lulz. From what I’ve heard it seems like just a meme but I might ask his chat about it next time he does that.

  • @bergkajian1257
    @bergkajian1257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm addicted to your videos, you are amazing.

  • @youngkappakhan
    @youngkappakhan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Having murdered my dog and overdosed on drugs, there's not much left to do in Ariake." is a good quote out of context

  • @WHEREAMIHELP1
    @WHEREAMIHELP1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It took me multiple watches, but I finally realized that your "it'll come in handy" comment about the cybernetics lab is a pun.

  • @jarrayplayz2142
    @jarrayplayz2142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dang bro, 2 months, that’s some dedication. Thanks for the content!

  • @Nocturn3
    @Nocturn3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fantastic freaking work, Marsh. Like hell am I gonna play this but thanks for suffering it for my enjoyment mate!

  • @razorthecurse
    @razorthecurse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man, as I keep saying in all your videos man, thanks for making them. It's literally just you playing through the game and talking about it, but it's chill. Can't wait for the next review, as I was fucking lucky to even see this one pop up. Keep it up Marsh~

  • @alex940127
    @alex940127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is 10/10 content for any SMT fan.
    For those who want to know how things started, your channel is the best, since there is little content translated from the first games (at least here on TH-cam).
    It was difficult to hear your voice in some parts, but nothing serious if using headphones.
    Thank you very much for your work!

  • @irl_lizard7880
    @irl_lizard7880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Just beat the Kyuuyaku version about 30 minutes ago and I really loved it. It manages to be much more accessible without being too easy (stuff like the Traesto spell for teleporting to the dungeon's entrance and access to the Mappara spell and automapping from early on).

  • @pineapplepearjuice6717
    @pineapplepearjuice6717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    In the words of a world famous boxer: "I've been waiting gor this!"Edit: Oo h just noticed! The demons they ask you to have in hell are the elementals! Thats pretty rad!

  • @Philemon_Logos
    @Philemon_Logos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another Fantastic video. Excited for the Soul Hackers Experience, that one’s in my Top 5 favorite Megaten games.

  • @Naterkix
    @Naterkix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    My trip to Ariake was great! I played some slots, did some drugs, almost died and got my dog killed in some weird demon fight club!
    10/10, would partake in weird debauchery and dog fights again

  • @evvaimociock3588
    @evvaimociock3588 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After finding your content thanks to the SMT If... Experience video, I can only say thank you for making this kind of content with good narration, good explanations and good footage from a game that doesn't really have a lot of it. You're making a service to the entire Megaten community when you talk about these more "obscure"/classic games in the series. Already waiting for the Soul Hackers review!!

  • @UnnamedVibesTree
    @UnnamedVibesTree 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I think The Castle actually IS Tokyo Disneyland tho...like Tokyo "Destinyland" in SMT 1?

  • @foxhound6364
    @foxhound6364 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was not expecting this so soon! Your videos have easily become my most anticipated stuff on TH-cam, even more than RLM's Best of the Worst shows.

  • @madpaladin305
    @madpaladin305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man you're videos are fantastic i'm so happy someone plays classic Megami Tensei games and you are super interesting i must have seen this one start to finish at least 15 times already, keep it up you rock!

  • @V0ID115
    @V0ID115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    "I never have to see a rendition of this place (Micon) again
    ... Until I play kyuuyaku at least"
    *HAPPY KYUUYAKU MEGAMI TENSEI FAN NOISES*

  • @Erexos
    @Erexos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can't wait to see you talk about Soul Hackers, honestly behind Strange Journey Redux it might be one of my favorites in the series.

  • @spawnofchaos9422
    @spawnofchaos9422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love how TH-cam recommended me this today while I am trying to find a way to get into the Megami Tensei series(I only played Persona 3 and 5)and I have already watched all your reviews of these old games.Great videos man!I ll be definitively waiting for the next video.

    • @unbanquackityishot327
      @unbanquackityishot327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you should try out nocturne or IV if you wanna get into it

  • @gwelengu
    @gwelengu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow these videos are like the perfect LP format to experience the game without playing it. Cool game

  • @orwell_fan
    @orwell_fan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love this, thanks dude, you just made my night !

  • @MadDepot
    @MadDepot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    hell yeah thank you!!!
    I'm honestly really glad you make this content because I absolutely love megaten but I really can't go back and play the older ones although I'm profoundly interested in them. with these videos you both give me long videos that make my sleepness nights easier AND you bring me into these retro journeys I wouldn't be able to go on alone

  • @ShadowRohanX
    @ShadowRohanX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    With how little these games are covered on TH-cam your reviews are great to watch and absorb

  • @kaimcdragonfist4803
    @kaimcdragonfist4803 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    52:12 “Bigass naked dude on a snake”
    I’m sure nobody’s made a Florida joke yet

  • @jericksoncompositions
    @jericksoncompositions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love how, in the thumbnail, Pazuzu looks like hes trying to subtly wave to a long forgotten lover, wondering how life would be if they were still in Pazuzus life.

  • @audrey7038
    @audrey7038 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3:20 "I never thought I'd say this line again" is waaaaayy funnier rewatching these reviews

  • @Ratta212
    @Ratta212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You have no idea how much i love these videos

  • @ninjaheart100
    @ninjaheart100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This game looks great for an NES and all these options that can make or break adds the weight to this atmosphere.
    Thank you for your time to play and show us your experience.

  • @BladeNinja
    @BladeNinja 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude I love your videos! As a big fan of SMT games it's always amazing to hear someone and their experiences with the franchise. Plus your videos are fun to watch with some amazing commentary!

  • @KaMui_AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs
    @KaMui_AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Finally, a legit review for the Famicom version of Megami Tensei II.
    I've always waited for it. Much appreciation!

  • @XelchanTheBrave
    @XelchanTheBrave 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks so much Marsh for going through this! Tomorrow I will watch this while drawing and I will write something for relevant to the vid, but for now I just wanna thank your huge effort and for finishing this daunting endeavor!!!🙏💖

  • @tempatempo3805
    @tempatempo3805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really enjoyed this and apprecciate the effort you put in. A couple of suggestions: Some more Story Info would be nice like 1. How does the bad ending play out if you fight Lucifer, 2. What happens if you drink from Suzuki, 3. What is the difference in killing mr.Clean/mr. Proper ? What happens to the earth? Or you know why did Masakado send you to Hell?

    • @MarshSMT
      @MarshSMT  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Basically the game just ends on Satan instead of YHVH for the bad ending. Suzuki's drink paralyzes you so Satan can just beat the shit out of you during the battle, and joining God is essentially a "bad" ending too where he gains control of the world but you become a god with him. I think Masakado sends you to hell because you gathered all the pillars to help you along and beat the rest of the demons

  • @autumnoraki
    @autumnoraki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing video bro, I really like the old Megaten titles, like the pre-2000 ones, they have a great charm to me, but I can't deal with them all, the original Megami Tensei games being some of them. Bless your soul for going through it.

  • @metallicsnake.
    @metallicsnake. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love seeing Marsh use humor to mask his decent into madness. Ps I hope I live long enough to see any madman badass buster do a video about shin megami tensei Nine.

  • @gabrieldevoogel6225
    @gabrieldevoogel6225 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I first saw this July 4th 2021, a little over a month before my life changed drastically, thanks marsh, you’ve really been here when I need some comfort TH-cam, these videos are so great wether it’s life, smt bs, or anything stressing me out, your the best quick fix