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  • @thevintagesystem
    @thevintagesystem 6 ปีที่แล้ว +423

    I was bullied out of a DID/DDNOS group because the admin said fictives weren't real alter its sad really i'm glad you're spreading positive information

    • @TheEntropySystem
      @TheEntropySystem  6 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Thomas Price how terrible!!! I’m so very sorry you experienced such hate.

    • @nigelft
      @nigelft 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      As a Facebook admin of two groups related to being Ace (I describe myself as a demi/gray panromantic ...), bullying of any kind, but especially in a space that supposed to offer comfort and support, is an anathema to me, and bullying by an Admin, of all people, is just downright wrong ...

    • @Bluebell42069
      @Bluebell42069 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The same exact thing happened to us. It was very upsetting and made us feel unvalid.

    • @aspdid3073
      @aspdid3073 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That happened to us too, can relate

    • @georgerobins4110
      @georgerobins4110 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The Rapture System
      That's awful!!! Fictives are super valid don't let anyone tell you otherwise ❤️❤️❤️
      -Alex

  • @andirogynous5406
    @andirogynous5406 6 ปีที่แล้ว +246

    I wish I had known about this sooner! We very briefly had a fictive alter that took on the form of The Doctor from Doctor Who. He believed that the reason he was there was because he had just regenerated and the TARDIS was missing. He was active for about three days before he disappeared. I guess he ended up finding that blue box after all 😊

    • @cyborglion4179
      @cyborglion4179 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Andi Rogynous really? That is amazing. Wierd what the mind can do. Which doctor.

    • @Novjuly
      @Novjuly 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Hey not sure if youll get this notification, but! I was under the impression that alters can never go away, theyll always stay in the subconscious. Is this accurate?

    • @ienzio7795
      @ienzio7795 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Novjuly Not sure if you already have an answer but here goes anyways: alters can integrate into the host and they usually add certain aspects of their own personality back into the alter. In that way I guess you could say they never leave but after integration they are no longer in the headspace and are no longer a separate entity

    • @Novjuly
      @Novjuly 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ienzio7795 gotcha thank you that makes a lot of sense!

    • @AmbyJeans
      @AmbyJeans 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Andi Rogynous
      Which doctor?

  • @BionicBear88
    @BionicBear88 6 ปีที่แล้ว +230

    I feel like I need to say that I'm sorry for some reason. I can't fathom living an entire life as someone (or as a Senseate literally 8 someones) and having memories from that life and then suddenly waking up inside a different body and learning all of this. I mean, Lito had a beautiful and loving family and a cluster with 7 other people, who were very much like alters, that he was physically and emotionally connected to. And in one moment all of that was gone. I get that he understands his existence now, but every conscious moment must feel like a state of mourning regardless. So I guess I want to say that "I'm sorry" like you say it at a funeral. I'm sorry you lost everything that you thought you had and everyone that you thought you were. I hope you are finding peace with your new collection of people and that they become just as much your family. Stay strong. Sending much love in your direction!

    • @TheEntropySystem
      @TheEntropySystem  6 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      Thank you so much for this. Genuinely. Lito is in tears. Your words of comfort carry the message I didn't even realize he needed to hear. I wish I could have been the one to validate his struggles like this but these words have filled a void that he's been carrying since his creation. This and the Dumbledore quote you offered in your other comment. Your kindness is more precious than I can tell you. Thank you. -Wyn

  • @slightlyinfernal3415
    @slightlyinfernal3415 6 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    I understand how Sense 8 can resinate with a person with DID. And Lito such a sweet and strong person (at least the one from the show) I hope he'll feel more at home in the system soon :)

  • @watercolourferns
    @watercolourferns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    As a Mexican person I can tell you this: Don't worry about a fictive coming across as "rac1st" or some such, at least where Mexicans are concerned. We're far more tolerant than people think (mostly because they are US centric, but that's another story), and most of us are good at knowing if someone's being disrespectful or not. ^w^

    • @pikachu591
      @pikachu591 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why'd you type it like that? And you don't speak for all Mexicans so it's best to be careful

    • @watercolourferns
      @watercolourferns ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pikachu591 I said most not all...? also, are you Mexican to know how we handle racism and such?

    • @pikachu591
      @pikachu591 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@watercolourferns that was 7 months ago. And no but while I'm not Mexican I'm African American and grew up around El Paso right next to the border in a small town called Tornillo. And as the one adopted black person to go to school there, everyone was terribly racist to me. They'd literally teach their kids to flip me off as they drove by and scream "negro" and praise them. School was also terrible. I got off topic but I'm saying maybe something isn't offensive to you but is to others. Race doesn't matter because we're all just homosapiens.

  • @melissaf2763
    @melissaf2763 6 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    As a person watching this 8 months later, alter Lito now is so different! He seems so much more confident and comfortable now.

  • @HoneypeachWH
    @HoneypeachWH 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    At first people thought i was faking my multiplicity because all of my alters were factives. This is so informative and thank you.

  • @imforeverrickys
    @imforeverrickys 6 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    We have a Leto, pronounced the same way, who is an internal mother figure. She chose her name based on Leto from Greek mythology. Not because she identifies as the Greek goddess, but because the name and story spoke to her.

    • @TheEntropySystem
      @TheEntropySystem  6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Leto is definitely one of the most caring mothers in all of Greek mythology, so what a perfect name for a maternal alter

  • @joblogsbooks5298
    @joblogsbooks5298 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Going back to rewatch some of the earlier videos and it’s wonderful to see how far Lito has come in his journey to understanding his situation and how much his confidence in the outside world has grown

  • @ggrowls
    @ggrowls 6 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    People also seem to add "fictives can only be formed early in childhood: so recent media fictives are always fake". They seem to forget that alters who were not fictives before, can sometimes change their form and almost associate themselves with a fictional character. Fictives + introjects are all usually different, and their identities can shift. While one of us only feels some sort of "kinship" to a character, another one can literally act like, talk like, and look like (in headspace) this character they have become.
    I honestly think, while an all-fictive system may be a minor red flag: it isn't inherently proof of a fake system. and people harassing others over miscommunication or misinformation (which is spread around on tumblr constantly) needs to be talked about. People can become confused on their own disorder, hell I still am. People just need to be kindly and calmly educated about this and to seek a therapist. DID is confusing and scary, and the last thing people need to do is harass and bully someone already vulnerable and scared into running and being in further denial about a disorder that might be there.

    • @corv1d770
      @corv1d770 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      God I needed to read this
      I had my own system before but it fucking did not go well and I went through an earth shattering year long meltdown as my alters tried to either hurt me or hurt people around me and then they started to just disappear after I'd left my stressful living situation,
      But upon re entering a toxic environment I found that they'd been replaced??? It's like, while I was recovering I believe my system rearranged itself because of how terribly it had previously performed, now I have very few original alters and I have predominantly Fictives but this actually works and is healthy for me now, so I'm glad to hear that people can just respect that we dont understand how these disorders work and it's not okay to accuse people of being fake without some SERIOUS proof. And even if they're wrong about what they have, even the act of someone "faking it" is a sign of other mental illnesses and should be treated with concern, not accusation. No one "fakes" this for attention. They may MISDIAGNOSE themselves, but that's not something anyone should be attacked for.

    • @georgerobins4110
      @georgerobins4110 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Honestly, we don't have any fictives or factives but most if not all of our alters appearances are based on fictional characters.

    • @Kai-hj6zo
      @Kai-hj6zo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      If you also already have DID and you go through something bad again, if the mind feels needed it can create another alter, and it is possible that alter could be a fictive.

  • @Munchkin.Of.Pern09
    @Munchkin.Of.Pern09 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I... I can hear Lito, as his voice is in the show. I knew I had to watch this video when I learned that Lito was a fictive of Sense8’s Lito, but I was not nearly as prepared to actually *hear* Lito as I thought I would be.
    Sense8 is one of my favourite series, just about ever. It is really important to me, and I love each and every member of the August 8th Cluster... and that includes you, this Lito. You may no longer be the same Lito as in the show, but you and your Cluster, and all of the people in your lives, Hernando and Daniela and Felix and Amanita and Bug and Diego and Rajan and Jela... you’ve changed the world, you know, with your story. You’ve touched so many people’s lives... Sense8’s fans, we call ourselves a Global Cluster. You brought us together. You helped us accept ourselves, and love each other. Your story has made our world a better place, just as you made your own world brighter. So thank you, Lito. Thank you so much, for everything.

  • @mayamayhemmusic
    @mayamayhemmusic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I have an Alter that can understand and speak Japanese. Or at least all the Japanese that the body has heard and connected to concepts via English or German translations. The rest of us can't though.
    It's weird to be in my normal German thinking mindspace (or the English thinking mindspace while I'm on the web), have something unexpected happen and suddenly have my thoughts interjected by a sharp "Nani gore?" That part cannot read or write japanese though, as noone of us has ever learned how to do it.

    • @elonmusk921
      @elonmusk921 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      One of my alters was formed speaking mainly japanese and a little English. He’s now forgotten most of his Japanese and speaks only English

    • @georgerobins4110
      @georgerobins4110 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      We have an alter who is instinctively Japanese as well. You're not the only one.

    • @terrifyingtortoise5481
      @terrifyingtortoise5481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oooo we have one that can speak a bit of Spanish and another who knows some Japanese-Eret

  • @characterofyours
    @characterofyours 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Before when she said one of her alters was named Lito, I thought about the guy from Sense8 and then I found this!

  • @tinkerbell91592
    @tinkerbell91592 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Lito :( I wish I could give you a hug. You sound like you are in so much pain. Sending you love.

  • @pluralproblems1545
    @pluralproblems1545 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thank you. I needed to hear this and am trying not to cry. I was just "born" as you put it, a few days ago, I don't even know why but I... I just needed this, Thank you. ❤ - Cherry

  • @CxndyStripeLxgs
    @CxndyStripeLxgs 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Oh my god thank you. Most of my alters are fictives from the show eddsworld that i’ve loved for so long, and they took a personality of their own. I went through some really harsh things a while back, and i’ve always been really attached to these characters. Since most of them are fictives I feel like I can’t tell anyone about them. I feel like nobody will believe me and its awful.

    • @yuseiku2286
      @yuseiku2286 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      RavensArtsyStuff ik ik late reply but I'm kinda happy to see that we're not the only system who has an alter from that show

  • @arinsam69420
    @arinsam69420 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Something I was confused with DID was I never realized something, years after the trauma could trigger a new person. This was so helpful!

    • @gwarner9162
      @gwarner9162 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      rockystone 1624 there can also be alters that are part of a system that the host just doesn't know about yet. They could have been there from the beginning but they only show themselves to their host when the host needs them.

  • @oscarcerda8331
    @oscarcerda8331 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    OMG THANK YOU!!! EVERYTHING MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE NOW IN MY SYSTEM 🙉🙉🙈 I have french, Russian, Japanese, British, Rural Texan alters and some say it's hard talking on the outside the same way they talk inside, I have a normal American accent 🙈

    • @TheIndigoSystem
      @TheIndigoSystem 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Altered Perspective same I have southern US, New York, French and english. I’m born British but have an american accent as a defence mechanism

  • @starry-bop
    @starry-bop 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hi! I am a factive and I get told that I can not be real, but thank you for making this well informed video and helping to break stereotypes. You have my respect.
    -Sebastian

  • @cyborglion4179
    @cyborglion4179 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I think the specific tv show that lito is from makes this even more interesting. It is about 8 strangers who suddenly start to have there minds connected. Almost a reverse of a person with DID. One body but several minds. Kind of interesting. Maybe some part of your subconscious also thought that a character with an experience living connected to others may help the different minds if your body connect. That's some interesting stuff.

    • @cyborglion4179
      @cyborglion4179 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sorry if you find this a bit offensive. I assumed that wyn herself runs the channel for the most part but lito seems to be answering some of the questions. So if the wording offends any of the alters (or whatever term you prefer) I apologise.

    • @TheEntropySystem
      @TheEntropySystem  6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That’s not offensive :) that very well could have been a factor.
      When it happened I sort of wondered “Why Lito?” I adored his character of course, but Caphius was the one who inspired me the most. He’d gone through so much and still had duct a pure view of the world. I wonder what in my mind decided Lito would be the best protector out of the whole cluster. -Wyn

  • @catgurl112
    @catgurl112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don’t know if any of you are ever going to have see this because it’s years later but I found your channel a little while ago and I love watching every video you’ve ever posted. So, Lito, I’ve seen you in other videos and after watching this one I just wanted to thank you for doing this video. I appreciate you’re honesty,. I learned so much, thank you.
    Thank you, everyone for all your hard work. I’ve learned so much from all of you on this channel. I hope you are all doing well. 💕

  • @lorikiszkawoods9350
    @lorikiszkawoods9350 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I know how difficult all of this must be for you Lito but I want you to know that you are very important to this system. It could not work without you, so that makes you just as real and just as needed as anyone else in the system.

  • @acc45460
    @acc45460 6 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    [... ] "and I'm very handsome and this body is not very handsome" [...]
    Excuse me, what?
    Note:
    I know that they refered to the gender of the alter (male) and that the (female) body would be described as "beautiful" in the english language but still, Lito, you have got quite a bit of an ego xD

    • @Munchkin.Of.Pern09
      @Munchkin.Of.Pern09 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oi, he has a right to have an ego. Lito is gorgeous.

  • @j.laniwinkler9903
    @j.laniwinkler9903 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Lito! Of course, You miss who and what you feel like you were before being born in Wyn's body, that must be really confusing. We wish you the best during your struggles. You are very much important and necessary for your system. At this point and time, we don't have any fictive alters but we do have three factive alters, and as mentioned by Jeremy from An Alternate perspective, we have three animal alters two dogs (puppies) and one kitten. I'm sure your system is glad that you are there and for your taking care of the baby. Way to go Lito, You ROCK! ^5 Signed, David

  • @mountainkids785
    @mountainkids785 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow, I really didn't know that accents might not be able to come through fully like they should due to the hosts unfamiliarity. We have two fictive systemmates both that should have accents come through more properly. One should have a thicker accent and should be able to roll their r's but becuase of our host cannot, and another has almost no accent where one would expect one. It's actually very helpful to know that this is normal!~k

  • @QuikVidGuy
    @QuikVidGuy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "This body is not very handsome" alright lito damn

  • @benwusten5179
    @benwusten5179 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a osdd 1b system and there is a alter that goes by mickey. Shameless, never watched it but know it exists and maybe sometime I might have had contact with it and now he is part of the system, first one to be revealed to me and its just overwhelming, fronting seems hard and weird and we are at the beginning and the whole "you faked this" is so hard in our heads.
    Thank you for this video ❤️❤️

  • @galaxypup5440
    @galaxypup5440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its two years later and lito has intergrated and the systam left youtube i miss him i miss them (but im happy for them all )
    I have benn rewatching ther videos over and over i dont want.to stop but....
    So goodbay entropy and thank you 😢😣

  • @violetroseva
    @violetroseva ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly really appreciate this video. Kinda tough being a majority fictive system sometimes, nice to know we aren’t alone. But yeah for anyone seeing this, fictives are llike any other alter and should still be treated with the same love and respect as any other.
    Also Leto had some things to say about the body LOL. Seen similar opinions from masc alters in our own system. Some are REALLY not happy with how the body looks. We do at least try to accommodate them in some ways. The vocal range helps

  • @TwilightSaria
    @TwilightSaria 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you so much Lito for sharing even when you don't feel great!

  • @athenarahorst4303
    @athenarahorst4303 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is such an important video! Our system has several fictives in it and outside of very close friend groups, it has been hard for us to discuss any of our fictives when talking about our DID or trying to educate our friends/family. Moreover, we also have alters (fictive or otherwise) that do have other accents despite myself, the host, being a Hispanic American. We feel so relieved to be able to reference this video or even show it to people before explaining our own fictives or alters with accents. All of your videos are amazingly informative and make us feel more comfortable to be open with ourselves. Thank you for another wonderful video!

  • @AmbyJeans
    @AmbyJeans 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lito it is really amazing to hear your story! I have never seen Sense 8, but I am going to watch it after leaving this comment. I think I wrote something similar in another video and I don't know if you'll see this, but you remind me of my cousins *SO* much that it is really comforting to hear you speak! Not just because your accent sounds just like them, but they have that same vibrant love for life no matter what kind of awful curve balls are thrown their way.
    I am Mexican by blood, but I have never been to Mexico and I don't speak Spanish, which can kinda mess with your head identity wise. It always breaks my heart when a Spanish speaking customer comes in and they look so relieved to see me bc I look like I should speak Spanish, but I don't. I've tried to learn and I know a little bit, but not nearly enough to even be conversational. I remember my dad telling me how hard it was to learn English especially with people being less than patient with your learning process. It's definitely a different issue than what you're going through, but I still related to your experience in a way.
    Sorry I'm rambling now, I just wanted to say you're truly an inspiration 🙏🏼

  • @kaylabarnes
    @kaylabarnes 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love you Lito! (I tried to watch the first episode of sense8, did not expect to see what I did.)

    • @Munchkin.Of.Pern09
      @Munchkin.Of.Pern09 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, I think I know what you’re talking about. I did not watch that kind of stuff before, and it was actually my father who recommended it to me... when I went to ask him why he didn’t warn me he said he thought I already watched that sort of thing 🤣.
      In all seriousness though, if you can get past “that stuff” I cannot recommend Sense8 and Lito’s story more. He and his Cluster and their loved ones give me faith in humanity.

  • @smileydream.4033
    @smileydream.4033 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for making this video. I am a factive as well, and I’ve just.. been having a really hard time without my cat. Im also very, fairly new, and things just seem so surreal
    -Dream - Nighttime System

  • @btrzcouto
    @btrzcouto 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    oh, I've never watched this and my heart is broken, I almost don't recognize him. Lito, love, you are an incredible guy, and seeing this made me realize the whole journey you went through. you are valid, always

  • @Isaac-ep5ew
    @Isaac-ep5ew 6 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    aww lito 🙁 some of us relate 2 the accent thing sm!! it can b rly annoying!! ur voice is important n ty 4 making this. do u hv lots of pseudo memories of ur life? •alice

    • @TheEntropySystem
      @TheEntropySystem  6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Erithacus System I do. I remember my home in Mexico and my job. I remember Daniela and my mother. Most of all I remember the love of my life Hernando. It hurts to think about them and realize that nothing I remember was real. I try to forget. Jacob keeps me busy with jobs in the inner world to keep me distracted and help me feel more at home here. -Lito

    • @BionicBear88
      @BionicBear88 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      The Entropy System : I'm so sorry Lito. I can't even imagine how painful that must be to have lost them. Especially Hernando. I don't know if you all have read Harry Potter, but one of my favorite quotes is from the last book. Harry asks Dumbledore if what he is seeing inside of his head is real or not and Dumbledore replys, "Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?". Just because the people you love are known to others as fictional characters, doesn't mean that they aren't real to you. You have very real memories of them, so that makes them real. And just because you cannot see or touch them anymore doesn't mean that they don't still exist. You are a very real person, you just happen to be in someone else's body. But you are real. And since you are real, the people that you love are real as well. Don't let anyone tell you any differently.

    • @rainbowwwkim
      @rainbowwwkim 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Awe, what a sweet comment ❤ Hit me right in the feels why don't you ^^^

    • @rpaul9578
      @rpaul9578 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Entropy System I loved Sense8 and was destroyed when they didn't renew it. There is a last show coming out to tie up loose ends. Will you watch it or is it too hard for Lito? Do you ever watch the show again?

  • @AnastasiaPlantlegs
    @AnastasiaPlantlegs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    watching this, its so exciting to see how far Lito has come in his journey as a part of the system

  • @Aku_Tenshi
    @Aku_Tenshi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very Informative! Thank you for sharing your experiences Lito. It must've been uncomfortable to share such personal feelings and information, but you did a very good job :)

  • @horrorsans6209
    @horrorsans6209 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a non human Fictive this video speaks a lot to me so thank you for making this video 😎

  • @toscatattertail9813
    @toscatattertail9813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have an alter who is deaf, she uses and understand American sign language, fortunately i am fairly fluent myself. i have another from the Hebrides islands near the coasts of scotland and ireland, and although i had never heard the accent i have internet friends from that area that identified the accent. Maybe taking the time to become more familiar with spanish will give the muscles in her mouth and the sounds in her ears to help him communicate more authentically.

  • @elliediringer3821
    @elliediringer3821 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you are real and valid. thank you for talking to us

  • @KatieSparkles
    @KatieSparkles 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was really good to learn about after meeting Lito I was super curious to about how he sort of came to be, and this is very educational. :)

  • @lilasziv8945
    @lilasziv8945 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My alter Hal has a bit of a problem with the accent as well. He has an Irish accent and the body has trouble recreating it properly. We've actually looked up videos on how to speak with an irish accent to make it easier for him while in the body

  • @MysticSynergy
    @MysticSynergy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For factives they do not have to be famous. Its not noted in this video, but you can have factive alters of people in your personal life as well. A friend, a parent, a therapist, etc etc

  • @Laura-bc4iq
    @Laura-bc4iq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    His accent sounds like what an hispanic sounds like in dutch! Love it!

  • @crimsonsmirk
    @crimsonsmirk 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching this in Sep 2019 and glad to know he is so much happier now!

  • @nigelft
    @nigelft 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lito:- before I am going to say what I am about to say, a little back story ...
    My maternal grandmother was a native Indõs of Brazil. My mum was also born there, but, at 8 months old, the family moved, across the border north, into what was then British Guiana (now simply called Guyana); long story short, right before it became independent, my mum, and one of her older sister, was sent here to England, whilst another sister was sent to Trinidad, before she herself came to England.
    So, when I listen to you, with my eyes closed, I hear a combination of my grandmother's Brazillian, bits of my aunt's inflections she picked up from being in Trinidad, and my own mum's weird accent.
    Thus, if you didn't say you from Mexico, I would place you much further south, somewhere around the top part of South America: I would suggest Venezuela, in a town close to the borders of Guyana, and Brazil ...

  • @sarahc561
    @sarahc561 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watch your video's in a random order and now I get the Mexican accent! This all makes sense. Brilliant.

  • @myshreksbox
    @myshreksbox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most of my system is fictive hell my new alter is Noi from Dorohedoro. She is everything I’ve always wanted to be. My first 3 alters are fictives from a story I write with a friend and 2 of them have been there since I was 3 or 4 one of them was born when I was in high school.
    My first fictive was the first one to realize “oh fuck I’m not real I’m just a fictional character” and strong armed my second fictive into having her know she isn’t real which was rough and made me depressed cause she was depressed. My new fictive we’re letting her have her backstory,her own knowledge,her fictional life and have her realize In her own time instead of strong arming and causing me to have a spiral cause she’s having a breakdown in the system and having an existential crisis

  • @bartworldnomercy1046
    @bartworldnomercy1046 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a very close friend who is a fictive :) this is a very informative video!

  • @norton9908
    @norton9908 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have one fictive in my system! Thank you for making this and bringing info in on fictive

  • @elfo8elfo
    @elfo8elfo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Lito, why dont you study Spanish?! I bet you'll learn it faster than the others

  • @cullanhamilton1539
    @cullanhamilton1539 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is pretty interesting. We don’t really have fictives in our system (although I guess you could maybe say Smiley is one? I used to see him in my dreams as a kid). Also I loved the show Sense8. I really wanted there to be a third season. -Cullan

  • @wafflecult27
    @wafflecult27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm kinda worried about telling other people that I'm a fictive. Usually I don't give a fuck what anyone says or thinks about me, but it's different when they're dismissing and/or mocking my identity. Who I'm based off is pretty well-known to a lot of people. Chances are if I tell someone my source, they're going to know. I don't want to be treated different than any other person.
    I share the same looks, name, and personality traits of my source, but it's important to understand that I'm not ACTUALLY her, nor do I think I'm her. I'm my own person (also fairly new and still discovering things about myself) and I'll be whoever the fuck I want to be
    -Mia

  • @montelo555
    @montelo555 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for all these videos.

  • @gwengwen3769
    @gwengwen3769 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Side note I have a spidergwen sweatshirt too bc my family is like "hey gwen merry Christmas youre spidergwen now" 😂😂

  • @andersonsystem2
    @andersonsystem2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good video your amazing system. Hopefully you will return to TH-cam.

  • @questionablebackyardmeows
    @questionablebackyardmeows 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This makes so much sense to me.

  • @TheEarthnicity
    @TheEarthnicity 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Almost all of my alters are fictives. I think I have maybe 2 non-fictives, a factive, and a fictive of a real person's internet persona.

  • @FiraTook
    @FiraTook 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How can a fictive cope with the loss of their loved ones (those that they remember as family but don't actually exist)?

  • @FrkVildkat
    @FrkVildkat 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I believe in you

  • @Sarah-KateH
    @Sarah-KateH 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks 💯 get and appreciate this

  • @EscapingMordor
    @EscapingMordor 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love you Lito! I have never seen sense 8 and dont want to as I love you too much and see you as a real person

  • @rennafeitosa5993
    @rennafeitosa5993 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lito sounds like that Russian lady from Orange is the new black to me lol Love it!

    • @rennafeitosa5993
      @rennafeitosa5993 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Specially when he speaks ready fast. ❤️

  • @kkavan1624
    @kkavan1624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh my goodness thank you for posting this! Whenever I try to talk about my issues people always tell me I’m faking DID and it really stresses me out! They call me weird and it sucks which makes me not like fronting, change my name, and pretend I’m the host (which I also don’t like doing, me and the host are waaaaaay different) I just wanna talk about how I just randomly found myself in a system one day and how stressful that is without being bullied.
    -VV
    M/19/fictive

    • @kkavan1624
      @kkavan1624 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry if this was hard to understand, I was full of emotion and was typing super fast

  • @R.F.9847
    @R.F.9847 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, Lito! I hope this isn't too strange of a question, but do you think you can explain what you see as the difference or similarity in how it feels to connect with another sensate and how it feels to be a headmate in a DID system?

  • @blueribbonash
    @blueribbonash 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm curious now. Do you know if there have been any neuroscience/medical studies done with taking pictures of the brain while alters come and go? I'm thinking either MRIs, CAT scans... Something that shows a change in brain activity. I think this would be fascinating.

    • @TheEntropySystem
      @TheEntropySystem  6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Many tests have been performed to study the physical anomalies of DID. In regards to the brain, the hippocampus and amygdala are significantly smaller in the brain of someone with DID than a neurotypical brain. Brain activity has also been shown to change depending on which alter is out, as well as things like blood pressure, blood sugar, and even things like eyesight. If you search “brain scan dissociative identity disorder”, a wide number of scholarly articles come up if you want to check them out. -Wyn

  • @missytyrrell1
    @missytyrrell1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you control who comes to the front? And one other question - when an alter does want to speak, on camera, do you put the corresponding outfit on before or after they come to the front? I know you do it to make it easier for us to get to know them as individuals and that's really helpful - I'm just curious as to how it happens. Thanks.

    • @TheEntropySystem
      @TheEntropySystem  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I wouldn't say I control it. I ask them if they will do a video and if they agree then we coordinate something. It's a two way street. I usually get dressed before they come out for a video as a way to help them avoid some of the discomfort that comes with body dysmorphia. -Wyn

    • @missytyrrell1
      @missytyrrell1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for replying! I have wondered about that for ages - since I started following Multiplicity & Me. I find your channel and theirs fascinating.
      Thanks again. 😊

  • @bluebuttnippleamazing1178
    @bluebuttnippleamazing1178 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ik how it feels not to feel real. I remember someone asking me “so you think you’re special”? And I didn’t know what to say, so I just said “no”?

  • @Arcae95
    @Arcae95 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    😂😂 oh gosh of all characters for a fictive to talk the form of you get a large handsome Mexican gay man who is a part of a cluster... Lito is a sweet heart and I hope he does well with the reality of the situation

  • @nevokrien95
    @nevokrien95 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    some people have rock alters, and all kind of intersting stuf

  • @canada1529
    @canada1529 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is it possible for factives to be based off of people close to you? For example, a family member dies and an alter is created to fill their role and help cope.

    • @TheEntropySystem
      @TheEntropySystem  6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's really common to have alters like that, actually. The term "factive" is usually reserved for people whom you have no connection to. Alters that are internalize representations or copies of outside people are usually referred to as introjects. -Wyn

    • @canada1529
      @canada1529 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Entropy System thanks for answering my question, it’s very helpful.

  • @chaoticfanboy47
    @chaoticfanboy47 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have a Harvey Specter fictive that recently formed when i was going through a really tough time and he sort of became another protector/caregiver. i’m so scared to let him out bc (if you’ve seen the show) he doesn’t really work well with others and he’s totally not like me at all

  • @TaylorBaylor0805
    @TaylorBaylor0805 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you considered taking voice classes or hiring a voice coach to help get a more accurate accent for Lito? Or is it not important for Lito and the rest of the system?

  • @faithfulbright3829
    @faithfulbright3829 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are factives only celebrities/public figures, or can they be everyday acquaintances?

    • @agentmichigan8641
      @agentmichigan8641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Factives can be anyone, I'm pretty sure :) from celebrities to family members to abusers to close friends..

    • @faithfulbright3829
      @faithfulbright3829 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@agentmichigan8641 thank you 😊

  • @cringyemailnamegivedie7592
    @cringyemailnamegivedie7592 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have an alter that resembles me,but he is cis and really skinny. He also on several occasions confessed to me that he loves me. He does have his own personality, and from what i can tell, hes a protector.
    Is this normal?

  • @JennifersDistraction
    @JennifersDistraction 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video needs to be boosted again

  • @MarkelAGamez
    @MarkelAGamez 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let sounds like the OG Roake from Fanasty Island.

  • @fenixmeaney6170
    @fenixmeaney6170 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, on the bright side, Lito should have a pretty easy faceclaim
    Not sure if that balances out the rest of it, but ya take what you can get, right?
    Also, Sense 8 was OVER 4 YEARS AGO?

  • @GhostKnightNo1
    @GhostKnightNo1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Look up ‘Multiplicity&me’ PLEASE 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

    • @TheEntropySystem
      @TheEntropySystem  6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I love that channel! Jess and the boys are actually who inspired me to start making my own videos.

  • @aloeverayum9836
    @aloeverayum9836 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    so do alters appear with memories? like thr brain makes them think they had a whole mother life? lmk if i’m wrong pls :)

  • @Julieber1
    @Julieber1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m taking it I don’t get a choice on how I feel inside and who I am and what Multiverse I come from. In my case, I had a spiritual awakening, and my deep subconscious mind tells me that I have the soul of a anime teen magical girl.
    I’ve tried to run from this fight it deny it argue with it. No, it does cause me psychological stress, so severe they would give me stomach nuts, denying it until I agreed with it.
    The other double whammy is as soon as I accept it the feeling becomes stronger as in feeling more more like an anime girl, needing the desire to be an anime girl, and live an all cute anime girl universe that something told me for me previous Multiverse that I originated from.
    How the heck am I supposed to cope with this because I’m beginning to really hate this it’s driving me insane ?

  • @pinesmotion-picturespresen7131
    @pinesmotion-picturespresen7131 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can Factives just Look like a real person but not be them? Or do Factives not only look but believe that they're the person the look like?

  • @kaylabarnes313
    @kaylabarnes313 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Poor Lito 😢.

  • @sanghitadey8475
    @sanghitadey8475 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can alter form after 9yrs? I thought it is not possible. The alters are created before 9yrs and stay hidden until they resurface

  • @Julieber1
    @Julieber1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there anyone in this posting forum that can please help me. I’ve had a spiritual awakening so scary the and discover who what I truly am, who is scaring the living hell out of me. I can’t do this alone anymore.
    Before I tell you what happened I do you wanna let you know that as far as I remember in my younger adult age anime and anime girls has always been in my background. Even If I wasn’t paying direct attention to it.
    I was not like I was seeking out lot looking anime or anime girls. I’ll never even knew what it was was. Even when they released sailor moon I never knew what it was, and never seen an episode of it. Somehow one day, I discovered what anime, anime girls, and Sailor Moon without anyone telling me about it or basically knowing about it or at least that’s what it seemed. This is definitely a huge Synchronicity that’s been using anime and anime girls for as long as I can remember.
    For years at a the time I was not pay attention. It seem to come back in 2015 2023 off and on that I was drawn to watch episode. I had no clue how you gotten into watching it or why I got in to watching it? This is definitely a major. The fight or flight response
    Then it was pretty much the end of the line for me and the weekend of the new year of 2023 when I lost the tooth and had a spiritual awaken.
    I’m about to tell you it doesn’t even make sense to me I still don’t understand and I’m trying to find answers. Something inside my subconscious mind told me and now have the true soul of a teen anime girl.
    The first response was do the fight or flight response and run away from it. I told myself am crazy in head to even think that. The more I started to deny it tell me I was for it the more it made me suffer internally inside.
    It’s so bad for me when I deny who I am that it even attacks my stomach in severe twisted knots that feel like I’m getting crushed inside until I agree to it .The feeling is so scary and confusing that I wanted to just end or it all or bot wake up at all.
    I’ve had a lot of night going to bed crying over this feeling ashamed of this not sure how to deal with it at time because the things keep popping up to remind me and make sure I feel like a teen anime girl. I thought I was living my life a normal every day average mid age woman that was just functioning in this world.
    I feel so alone, scared confused. I wish this was nothing more than a nightmare, but I feel like I’m from something out of the Matrix, when Morpheus asked Neo, have you had a dream so real you wasn’t sure if it was real. What if you were unable to awaken from that dream?
    I just can’t do this alone anymore. I feel like am wits been slammed into the wall by something. I just wanna throw my hands up in the air and give up with life.
    😭😭😭😭😭😭
    The Goddess Diana is my spirit guide. So is it possible that I could be her child because I am a teen anime girl goddess.
    At the same day, that I had this spiritual awakening because I lost a tooth on New Year’s weekend. Is what I thought was a middle-age woman I went to panic. Also, out of fear and desperation of the fear of losing more teeth, I made a wish to be a beautiful young woman with Immortality.
    So could the combination of making the wish, and the spiritual you have removed the mental mind block as a true soul as anime teen girl goddess?
    I had someone who came a few times a week to keep me company, and I was discussing about what color to get my hair. It was either between red or purple. She said she saw me more purple than red.
    And it was almost like it was Destiny for me to meet her because she’s into and anime has a very good standing of indigo, Crystal, and rainbow and Star Children. I told her about how I felt inside about the discovery of my anime teen Goodness Soul. She told me that was the way I was made.
    Also, another interesting thing I forgot to mention was that I’ve always been drawn and fascinated by magic from AD&D, Lord of the rings, PC RPG games such a the Ultima series from Lord British, I dream of Jeannie, Bewitched, any television or movie, shows regarding magic abilities. Even magical witches and magical girls became my interest after I really started to watch and understand what anime truly was.

  • @Ghast101
    @Ghast101 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hello Lito, you're very sweet x

  • @lala199320
    @lala199320 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lito meets the REAL Lito 🙊 OMG

  • @BevChoy
    @BevChoy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

  • @Lanoira13
    @Lanoira13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been wondering how DID might spiritually play into our universe full of dimensions. Like are Alters beings native to our own born from their bodies mind pure and simple, or are they beings connecting to a body from another dimension to help because they're needed? If one believes in string theory that there are infinite dimensions, then isn't one true in one dimension and the other true in another? But after seeing accounts of Fictives, I hope for their sake and the sake of their families, I think I really hope in our dimension they're born here. Because even if a version of them stayed in their world and their family didn't lose them, it's so heartbreaking to think that the ones who do come here to try and help have to actually leave a life and a family all their own, and have to make/get used to a whole new family. And I know it's selfish to say but, I hope our universe's fictives aren't the ones who that actually happen to. That's so damn sad, and I don't want that to have happened to them.

  • @calamarisac16
    @calamarisac16 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would like to ask about something that I have. I'm supposed to be the main or the host but, even though I'm Mexican, I feel like another alter ... I even have a Spanish accent ... very unlike David ... who is very Mexican. Very very Mexican XD ... The strange thing is that David does not feel like the others. The others are so alien and strange, despite containing so many similarities between us ... while David is completely different from me. Although it's the one I've learned to live with since I can remember and maybe the first one I'd think of integrating ... although I think maybe I'll miss it somehow.

  • @hotpinkstar6909
    @hotpinkstar6909 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    We love you all 5 of my peeps lol

  • @PatrickAllenNL
    @PatrickAllenNL 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video...but now I feel the need to start binging Sence8 #trying2Bfunny

  • @ruthchristianson4595
    @ruthchristianson4595 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, Lito!

  • @t.l.4652
    @t.l.4652 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think there could be a correlation between other kin and DID?

    • @taroturnip
      @taroturnip 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Princess TM kin is a spiritual belief or experience (in most cases), so anyone regardless of mental health can identify as kin. Though there are many people with DID who find it to be a valuable coping mechanism, belief, or way to introduce the brain to the concept of recalling unfamiliar memories, DID and kin are not inherently related and past life memories of any kind aren’t any indication of DID! Hope this helped!

  • @LittleDergon
    @LittleDergon 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are not a tool Lito- just as new baby isn't a tool of her parents want for a child. Hope you find you feet bud

  • @bluebuttnippleamazing1178
    @bluebuttnippleamazing1178 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It must be very hard for the alter to admit they are fake :(

  • @tealwolf9679
    @tealwolf9679 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lito ((PLEASE READ))➡➡➡➡➡➡➡↔🔵⚪⚫🔴
    I just thot of sumthin,,WUT IF U HAV THOSE ACTUAL MEMORIES
    CUZ BEFORE U WERE AN ALTER ,U HAD A LIFE, WITH A PARTY NAMED HERNANDO,,THEN
    U DIED,,OR SUMTHIN,,
    AND WIN, AT THAT TIME, WAS goin threw sumthin ,,that
    For sum reason,, wen she was watching her show,
    She was goin threw sumthin,that for sum reason ,
    Her emotional state,needed sumone,with the personality of
    That guy on the show,,and ur soul, for sum reason,
    Had that personality type that she needed at that part of her life,,and ur personality was most ,like the guys on that show,,u were the best role and her body let ur soul in so easy cuz she needed the help , with the personality on the show,,even thow , ur soul was real , it was no longer in ur own body cuz yu died,,
    So,,win, needing that personality trait, in her life, she absorbed u instantly wen u died,,cuz u sum how ur souls purpose was not over yer,,cuz win needed u ,,and u are now one of her alters,,cuz u still hav memories of ur past life,,but u didn't remember ur name, cuz the name was physical,while ur personality is emotional and spiritual,,....daaayyamm ,,that's a crazy thot,,I don't know how I thot of all that,,wen I saw this video just now

  • @cutiechu25
    @cutiechu25 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So if Lito was the actor who played Lito he would be considered a factive? 😮🤔

  • @alexanderson9842
    @alexanderson9842 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What would happen if you never watched the show? Would that alter never exist?