I’ve watched Downton so many times, but I only just realized that while Susan dropped that bombshell on her daughter’s wedding day, Lady Sinderby not only smoothly saved the ceremony before she entered, but blew a kiss at her future daughter in law … genius bit of script writing/acting… and what a wonderful mother in law. Rose was not lucky in her relationship with her real mother, but she has a loving dad, husband and MIL.
I never understood that line, actually. What did it mean? "We're Jewish, thus we're wealthy, thus we pay well"? The stereotype (however unfair it may be ) about Jews' generosity is quite the contrary, after all.
@@tobynsaunders It was well known that the Flintshires were bankrupt. So, it was Lady Sinderby sassing at Susan that they are capable of paying their stuff, so no they dont find it as difficult as Susan thinks.
@@samkiiit What does that have to do with being Jewish though? Was the joke, "Unlike you, we're Jewish, thus we have money, unlike you, and thus we can afford to pay staff, unlike you"?
@@tobynsaunders it’s because Susan had made multiple negative comments about them being Jews, so it kinda turns her negative and utilizes it as backing for a retort.
She is to be admired for the way she handles her husband as well as Susan, Rose her mother, just in that moment for the wedding to be held, she kept both of them in their place, and rightfully so.
I love Lady Sinderby and how sweet and elegant she is. I also LOVE how she flips a switch and turns into a straight momma bear when she thinks her husband is going to try to stop the wedding. Don't mess with a mother and her child's happiness!
Her character is someone who is kind but who at the same time is very aware of other people's ideas. She behaves like a gentle woman but there's steel behind the common smiles she grants everone.
@@lauratas9609 yes.. she did it three times and it was epic, especially at the dinner table when Susan was totally Anti-Semtiic and Lady Sinderby just called it out, wrapped it in a barb and threw it back at that miserable old hag. One could almost see a slight smile from the Dowager Countess, who by the way, was at a ROTHCHILD wedding... you can't get any posh than that.. lol Side note.. we NEED a prequel on the Dowager Countess' early years. lol
Threatening to divorce her husband publicly in front of his bride to be, and in laws to be, is not exactly the epitome of class and grace. As for loyalty, she showed more to her son than her husband, not super classy.
@@kachi2782 She made her feelings known to her husband and to her son. She did not speak to the whole assembly in the county building; unlike Rose's mother. She made it a point to tell everyone she and Rose's father are in the process of getting a divorce. Rose, the bride-to-be was not present. She was with her father. Lady Sinderby was happy her son was getting married to Rose, unlike her husband who found fault in Rose because she is not of the same faith and because she isn't Jewish . At that time in history Lady Sinderby knew of the tremendous prejudices against her people and loved Rose because didn't care the Sinderby's are Jewish. She knew Rose is truly in love with Atticus and she would make her son very happy. So yes, Lady Sinderby's loyalty is to her son because like a mother she put her son's happiness before her husbands narrow mindedness. She could see that would make him no better then those who show prejudice to them because they're Jewish.
@@kachi2782 Lol nice comeback. I hope you’re not a lawyer too. I felt the need to express my disagreement but am too lazy to explain my reasoning. Idk ok ugh. Basically I disagree because Lady Sinderby’s words align with her actions. She wants what is best for her son and it’s not like she made a grand announcement about the divorce, it was just a simple threat made directly to her husband. That doesn’t exclude her from having class or grace. The wedding wouldn’t have been possible without her expression of approval (against her husband). One instance of disagreement with him doesn’t mean she’s altogether completely disloyal to him, she’s just loyal to her son in this case. And she doesn’t just spout empty words, she stood her ground. Quite elegantly I might add. That’s classy and graceful in my opinion. Being classy or graceful doesn’t just mean you’re a stiff.
Lady Sinderby was a true lady and an all-around badass! She knew Rose was good for her son, and she'd be damned if she'd let anything get in the way of those two lovebirds!
Yes.. I loved how she took an Anti-Semitic slur and threw it back at Susan with a smile. She realized Rose was a gem despite Susan being such a bitter vile poison. Something tells me that Lady Sinderby and the Dowager Countess could be allies.
I love the interaction between Tom and Lady Sinderby during the shoot. That scene alone speaks volumes about the type of open minded personality that she possesses.
There are several reactions to being an outsider, once you have a certain amount of clout. One is to become a snob and start to exclude others. Another reaction, the one Lady Sinderby seems to have, is to continue to see the self in the other and behave accordingly. Lady Sinderby's conversation with Tom is a beautiful example of how she sees the parallels in their experiences as outsiders.
My eyes tear up when I see the scene where Lady Sinderby stands up to Rose's evil mother and her husband at the wedding. Bravo to such a sweet and strong Lady. She then blows a kiss to Rose. So sweet. PEACE to ALL.
One of my favorite characters on Downton. She sliced through the hypocrisy like a hot knife through butter and remained charming and graceful as she did it. Thanks for posting this.
Lady Sinderby and Tom Branson have more in common than one would first think. They both are outsiders in society. She for being Jewish and he for being an Irishman and of the lower middle class. They both have had to overcome a number of obstacles to satisfy the Old Rule. In the end they rise like a New Dawn and ability to see and embrace the world with an Open mind and Caring heart.
@@nigelsheppard625 Oh the fact that he was an Irishman, an Northern Irishman meant alot then and sadly even today. The class system in England (and the USA for that matter) hasn't changed much over the decades/century
I thought she was lovely. Her husband, on the other hand, was nasty and quite the hypocrite (Whoring around with another woman and a child. I wish Rose had not helped him out, but then the sweet Lady Sinderby and Atticus would have been hurt by his actions and they were both good souls.).
@@skontheroad As I recall, he was not all that unhappy about being in Rose's debt--he made a point of saying that she was clearly a good hearted soul as well as quick thinking.
Susan McClare was such a rude, snobbish woman. She treated Rose abysmally. I'm glad that Lady Sinderby appreciates what she has in Rose. Rose and Lady Sinderby are both happy lively lovely women. No wonder Atticus fell in love with Rose. She's very reminiscent of his Mother.
I just saw the episodes were they're up in Dunne Eagel and she's was a real B! Then she had the nerve to steal O'Brian from Lady Grantham! I never wanted to slap a person in my life!
@@kerriethompson2073 Yes, but wasn't it lovely that two of the most disliked characters ended up together, and ultimately out of sight and out of mind.
And Lord Sinderby immediately went quiet. He knew she meant every word. Its very clear who is the real power in their relationship he may act like he rules the roost but its an act all the same Lady Sinderby is the real power and she was so smooth and driscreet the way she took the wind from Susan's sails then put her husband in his place with a mere whisper lol
Loved me some Lady Sinderby going off on her husband and putting Susan in her place. What a great actress Penny Downie is, along with rest of the Downton cast.
I cannot imagine being so determent to ruin my daughters life like Susan is Some make excuses for her but she just tries to make everyone else miserabele
@@RobertodelaVega-t3w Susam Flintshire was a miserable So-&-So. Remember when she wrote to the Dowager about the Lady Mary & Mr. Pamuk's situation? She was thrilled Violet said. But she was also jealous of the Crowleys. Their family relationships were warm & loving whilst she & Shrimpy could barely tolerate one another. & her relationship with Rose was a mess by her own hands & due to her wanting to control the poor girl. Also, she & Shrimpy had lost the family home; Duneagle Castle' due to mismanagement. The old adage is true about Susan: Misery Loves Company, sadly.
I adore Carson's impressed look when he learns that Lady Sinderby's family dates from the reign of Richard III. It's literally *rapidly re-evaluating my assessment of the in-laws to-be*.
Yes Richard III dug up under a Leicestershire car park where he'd been buried after the Battle of Bosworth and when the authorities did enhanced DNA tests there was No connection. No bloodline to the Saxe Coberg Gotha's - this incumbent lot at all ! But no one talks of it ? But Carson looked impressed at the mention of Richard III - history is Intriguing and there are reasons that in the 70's the Education authorities started to close down history and they only dealt with WWI Onwards. They don't want people to know or understand and enjoy history. History widens our horizons and to some extent saves us from making the same mistakes again. Peace ☮️ out SW England 🇬🇧.
@Don Losentes and both are originally born Jewish! The time between the World Wars was especially difficult for Jewish people everywhere. It made asses like Lord Sinderby and angels like Lady Sinderby. Cora, on the other hand, had a good but coniving mother who got her a pre-wars marriage with a man who had the same delights and problems with his mother! Cora's mom didn't intend it but she was the matchmaker of a lifetime. I feel for Lady Sinderby because Cora and Robert's love for each other is so beautiful. The good Lady deserved better yet insisted on being better! Bravo!
Lady Sinderby was the mother-in-law of dreams! I always imagined it must have been so nice for Rose to finally have a motherly relationship with someone in her life, after the hell that was her own mother, Lady Flintshire 😂
The way they pronounce her name, I never made the connection until seeing your comment in print. "Flint-shire" as if she is trying to burn down the house. And even Sinderby has a relationship to fire, "cinder". Curious that those names should come together.
She is tough when push comes to shove! Really liked her. Great casting. Would like to see more of her character in the next movie. Wonderful actress. 👏🏻
The Sinderby's easily could have carried off their own series. The tension between the Lord and Lady Sinderby charges every scene they appear in. Also, their characters seem to have a depth that draws you in to learn more about them as individuals and the world they live in.
Lady Sinderby, quite a charming lady with an edge when necessary. She was not to be toyed with but willing to love and embrace. Similar to Cora. God, I love Downton Abbey.
4:30 I love this conversation and the facial expressions of Rose's parents. No one's talking directly about them, but everyone knows their marriage is a sham.
The writing and acting delivery in this incredibly entertaining series was beyond fascinating. I cannot fathom anyone else in the role of Lady Violet than Dame Maggie Smith. She is simply delicious!! I am American, but have always loved anything period English. They have the market cornered.
@@veerseth4911 The Rothschild family is one of the ultra wealthiest jewish families in the world. So if you marry in that family, you are set for life.
@@veerseth4911 Hannah Rothschild was the sole heir of her father's enormous fortune, which she inherited at the age of 23. When she married the Earl of Roseberry, she was the wealthiest woman in Britain.
I thought most of the Rothschilds converted to Christianity, also they're not the richest people in the world, look up debunking Rothschild conspiracy theories
@@SerenaBlackCat Well idk about the whole Christian razzmatazz. We are talking about the Rothschilds before 1920s, when they were reigning supreme in wealth. And even if not the richest people in the world, they were anything but poor.
Little did they know Atticus’ father is having is own affair. As much as I hated Susan for ruining her own daughter’s day, it’s kinda relieving when his secret unfolded in front of Lord Grantham’s family. That’s powerful & a shock for him. And Rose came forward to defend him.
I'm don't think Rose did it to defend him but rather to spare her dear mother-in-law the shock of finding out that her husband has been carrying on a affair. Lord Sinderby was discreetly paying to support the woman and the son he'd fathered with her. Rose obviously didn't approve (though when we first me her, she was having an affair with a man she knew was married), but she didn't want her mother-in-law to be hurt and her husband's family to be scandalized. Lord Sinderby obviously felt his guilt crashing down on him, but at least it taught him to appreciate his new daughter-in-law.
@@rowanaforrest9792 i agree with you on that too. It’s because Lady Sinderby loves Rose wholeheartedly. It’s a lovely mutual relationship between Rose and Lady Sinderby. Just like a mother and her daughter (unlike Rose’s own mother Lady Flintshire who tried ruining the wedding)
@@rowanaforrest9792 I think you are right: Rose was saving the occasion, protecting her loving mother-in-law, and not upsetting her beloved who would have had to face his father's betrayal of his loving, dutiful wife. And what a way that would have been for Atticus to discover he had a brother named Daniel after their father. I am not certain Rose was yet having an affair with the married man she was out partying with, but certainly it was in the offing if it had not begun already. I was glad Rose named her daughter Victoria Rachel Cora for her mother-in-law and Cora, whom she felt was more of a mother and guide to her than that godawful Susan. I was sad when she mocked Atticus' name that no one pointed out to her the culturally Roman origins of the name, while hers is from Hebrew Scripture (just to make the point sharper). What a rotter that woman was.
Lady Sinderby is a very charismatic and wise soul . . . she is a very important character in the Downton world as well, especially for Rose . . . and her husband.
Lady Sinderby is the epitome of a level of class and character that cannot be bought. The way she responds to Rose's incredibly snotty mother at 6:26 is a study of grace and gentility. She owned her and diffused her comments beautifully. And shows in the next scene that she wears a velvet glove over a steely hand.
Lady Sinderby handled that perfectly, so diplomatic and smooth -- took the wind right out of Lady Flintshire's sails. Susan was shocked, which was soooo satisfying!
Honestly she wanted to know how the Grantham family tolerated and accepted him. He was a Catholic Irish chauffeur-wrong religion, wrong ethnicity, wrong class. So Lady Synderby wanted to get the scoop on how he managed to finagle himself into this family.
I know this is just a television show but the character of Rose’s MIL reminds me of my own beloved MIL. She was one of my best friends, confidants and biggest supporter. I miss her every single day. ❤️
"I leave you to the delights of your soup" is one of my favorite Dickie lines! They are SUCH a lovely couple and deserved every bit of their happy ending away from his horrid son and daughter-in-law.
She just might be my Favorite of all. The wee loving kiss she sends Rose at the wedding. Here’s my future fantasy: Lady Sinderby and Rose’s father make a new marriage.
You realise, I expect, that divorce was not acceptable in society (for the two people you speak of to get a divorce and then remarry). Divorced people were not invited to any social functions. It's why people remained in wretched marriages and sought affection, comfort . . . from outside the marriage. The rule appeared to be that although their society peers were aware of the extra marital arrangements, but anyone who broke the code and spoke about it was immediately shunned. You may remember the row between the Sinderbys when Lady Sinderby threatened her husband with divorce if he continued with his behaviour. She'd divorce him, and that would be an even greater disaster. It'd certainly sink all his efforts to be accepted by society.
I'd love to see the clips of Rose's father putting her mother in her place for trying to stop Rose's wedding, when Rose saves Lord Sinderby's behind when his mistress shows up at Brancaster Castle, and when Lord Sinderby realizes how lucky he his to have Rose for his daughter-in-law.
Rose has a wonderfully supportive Father, and a difficult, judgmental Mother. Atticus has a wonderfully supportive Mother and a difficult, judgmental Father. Rose and Atticus complete each other. I hope Lord Flintshire becomes as wonderful of a Father-in-law to Atticus as Lady Sinderby is as a Mother-in-law to Rose.
Susan…she liked Rose and didn’t care that Rose wasn’t Jewish. She probably wanted grandkids while she was still alive instead of waiting for the right Jewish girl so her husband could be happy.
Textbook antisemitism; and in contrast to Rose's comment of "why would you not be English" when first meeting Atticus. "English" blood is a mix of ethnicities anyway.
Michelle…those who have “titles”, had ancestors who were dedicated to the defense of their country during the early history of England, and the king gave them lands and money from the treasury to help protect their lands, therefore protect against foreign invadors. Nobody has the so-called noble blood, it was just an invention by the church to keep themselves in the king’s graces (a king had huge numbers of followers). I could just go on!
Makes my blood boil how Susan did this on her daughter's wedding day, clearly trying to sabotage it and then sourly said to Violet if she was expected to just be a sore loser. WTF. IS this a competition for attention or she's just so disappointed she weren't able to destroy her child's life. What a character.
Lady Sinderby is gracious charming and wise. The quiet comment she made to 'shush' Lord Sinderby after Susan's declaration, always makes me wonder if she knew about the little Daniel, who turns up at the castle later with his mother.
I don't know, I don't think that she (the character Lady Sinderby) is that good an actress (I'm thinking about when Rose covered for Sinderby 's mistress and son at the front door) to have hidden her feelings so well had she known.
I’ve watched Downton so many times, but I only just realized that while Susan dropped that bombshell on her daughter’s wedding day, Lady Sinderby not only smoothly saved the ceremony before she entered, but blew a kiss at her future daughter in law … genius bit of script writing/acting… and what a wonderful mother in law. Rose was not lucky in her relationship with her real mother, but she has a loving dad, husband and MIL.
So well put. Thank you for that.
And eventually Lord Sinderby warmed up to her ... after she saved his @$$
Keep
Rose is very lucky to have such a wonderful mother-in-law.
MOTHER, there is no need for this 'real' mother nonsense as Rose only has one mother.
"Not very. But then we're Jewish, we pay well" Cracks me up every time!
I never understood that line, actually. What did it mean? "We're Jewish, thus we're wealthy, thus we pay well"? The stereotype (however unfair it may be ) about Jews' generosity is quite the contrary, after all.
@@tobynsaunders It was well known that the Flintshires were bankrupt. So, it was Lady Sinderby sassing at Susan that they are capable of paying their stuff, so no they dont find it as difficult as Susan thinks.
@@samkiiit What does that have to do with being Jewish though? Was the joke, "Unlike you, we're Jewish, thus we have money, unlike you, and thus we can afford to pay staff, unlike you"?
@@tobynsaunders it’s because Susan had made multiple negative comments about them being Jews, so it kinda turns her negative and utilizes it as backing for a retort.
@@SouthCountyDreaming I figured it may have been that but it was so lacking in wit that I wasn't sure.
I adore Lady Sinderby, she's an excellent foil for Rose's mother, andI love the way she handles her husband also.
I like how shrimpie also handled his wife. Taking a stand and blackmailing her into silence at least on the matter of the photo she manufactured
"Get down, you cat!" Yes, I love that too!
She is to be admired for the way she handles her husband as well as Susan, Rose her mother, just in that moment for the wedding to be held, she kept both of them in their place, and rightfully so.
Yes, Rose’s mother is a total lunatic.
Threats?
I love Lady Sinderby and how sweet and elegant she is. I also LOVE how she flips a switch and turns into a straight momma bear when she thinks her husband is going to try to stop the wedding. Don't mess with a mother and her child's happiness!
She's got a lot of charisma!
So well put, AND she put Susan in her place in such a subtle way!
Yes and Lord Sinderby not wanting to upset her in any way shows where the true power lies in that relationship.
Her character is someone who is kind but who at the same time is very aware of other people's ideas. She behaves like a gentle woman but there's steel behind the common smiles she grants everone.
@@lauratas9609 yes.. she did it three times and it was epic, especially at the dinner table when Susan was totally Anti-Semtiic and Lady Sinderby just called it out, wrapped it in a barb and threw it back at that miserable old hag. One could almost see a slight smile from the Dowager Countess, who by the way, was at a ROTHCHILD wedding... you can't get any posh than that.. lol Side note.. we NEED a prequel on the Dowager Countess' early years. lol
She is the epitome of class & grace. Doing everything effortlessly & with steady loyalty to those she loves and admires.
Threatening to divorce her husband publicly in front of his bride to be, and in laws to be, is not exactly the epitome of class and grace. As for loyalty, she showed more to her son than her husband, not super classy.
@@kachi2782 She made her feelings known to her husband and to her son. She did not speak to the whole assembly in the county building; unlike Rose's mother. She made it a point to tell everyone she and Rose's father are in the process of getting a divorce. Rose, the bride-to-be was not present. She was with her father. Lady Sinderby was happy her son was getting married to Rose, unlike her husband who found fault in Rose because she is not of the same faith and because she isn't Jewish . At that time in history Lady Sinderby knew of the tremendous prejudices against her people and loved Rose because didn't care the Sinderby's are Jewish. She knew Rose is truly in love with Atticus and she would make her son very happy. So yes, Lady Sinderby's loyalty is to her son because like a mother she put her son's happiness before her husbands narrow mindedness. She could see that would make him no better then those who show prejudice to them because they're Jewish.
@@kachi2782 disagree
@@nessinator2526 Amazing argumentative, i hope you're not a lawyer .
@@kachi2782 Lol nice comeback. I hope you’re not a lawyer too. I felt the need to express my disagreement but am too lazy to explain my reasoning. Idk ok ugh. Basically I disagree because Lady Sinderby’s words align with her actions. She wants what is best for her son and it’s not like she made a grand announcement about the divorce, it was just a simple threat made directly to her husband. That doesn’t exclude her from having class or grace. The wedding wouldn’t have been possible without her expression of approval (against her husband). One instance of disagreement with him doesn’t mean she’s altogether completely disloyal to him, she’s just loyal to her son in this case. And she doesn’t just spout empty words, she stood her ground. Quite elegantly I might add. That’s classy and graceful in my opinion. Being classy or graceful doesn’t just mean you’re a stiff.
Lady Sinderby was a true lady and an all-around badass! She knew Rose was good for her son, and she'd be damned if she'd let anything get in the way of those two lovebirds!
Certainly makes it clear that one can be a badass and look good doing it.
It really was wonderful to see her fight for her son’s happiness, just throwing in her lot with him.
Rose wil finally have the mom she deserves
@@EstherHulst-Artist Oh, love that thought, because Rose is a gem. Unfortunately her mother wasn’t and missed the boat on appreciating her.
Yes.. I loved how she took an Anti-Semitic slur and threw it back at Susan with a smile. She realized Rose was a gem despite Susan being such a bitter vile poison. Something tells me that Lady Sinderby and the Dowager Countess could be allies.
I love the interaction between Tom and Lady Sinderby during the shoot. That scene alone speaks volumes about the type of open minded personality that she possesses.
There are several reactions to being an outsider, once you have a certain amount of clout. One is to become a snob and start to exclude others. Another reaction, the one Lady Sinderby seems to have, is to continue to see the self in the other and behave accordingly. Lady Sinderby's conversation with Tom is a beautiful example of how she sees the parallels in their experiences as outsiders.
My eyes tear up when I see the scene where Lady Sinderby stands up to Rose's evil mother and her husband at the wedding. Bravo to such a sweet and strong Lady. She then blows a kiss to Rose. So sweet. PEACE to ALL.
One of my favorite characters on Downton. She sliced through the hypocrisy like a hot knife through butter and remained charming and graceful as she did it. Thanks for posting this.
I love how you discribed it
and don't forget, she absolutely got Violet's approval with every quip she gave.
Yes indeed, an example to many snobs
THIS is a great comment! Thank you....
@@TheChill001 Exactly.. Downton Dinner Tested... Dowager Countess approved! lol
I aspire to be as continuously gracious as Lady Sinderby, she oozes good manners and is just wonderful.
Lady Sinderby and Tom Branson have more in common than one would first think. They both are outsiders in society. She for being Jewish and he for being an Irishman and of the lower middle class. They both have had to overcome a number of obstacles to satisfy the Old Rule. In the end they rise like a New Dawn and ability to see and embrace the world with an Open mind and Caring heart.
It wouldn't have mattered that he was Irish, but his class was a massive problem.
@@nigelsheppard625 Oh the fact that he was an Irishman, an Northern Irishman meant alot then and sadly even today. The class system in England (and the USA for that matter) hasn't changed much over the decades/century
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@@nigelsheppard625
Class was a
significant issue
But religion was
also a big issue
during that era.
@@here_we_go_again2571 well he is a catholic "on top of that" (the problem arises with the christening of sibbie)
Lady Sinderby was so charming. She deserved better than her husband's antics. Rose deserved better than her mother's antics. Downton Forever 💗
I thought she was lovely. Her husband, on the other hand, was nasty and quite the hypocrite (Whoring around with another woman and a child. I wish Rose had not helped him out, but then the sweet Lady Sinderby and Atticus would have been hurt by his actions and they were both good souls.).
@@sheilaburns8977 But in doing so, Lord Sinderby now owes Rose--it was a very slick move on her part!
@@skontheroad As I recall, he was not all that unhappy about being in Rose's debt--he made a point of saying that she was clearly a good hearted soul as well as quick thinking.
She has appealing qualities and shows a great deal of fortitute, especially when dealing with her husband.
Charming yes but fierce as a tiger when something threatens her cub. Gosh I love her
I love Lady Sinderby so much. I'm so happy Rose can find in her everything that she could want in a mother.
Susan McClare was such a rude, snobbish woman. She treated Rose abysmally. I'm glad that Lady Sinderby appreciates what she has in Rose. Rose and Lady Sinderby are both happy lively lovely women. No wonder Atticus fell in love with Rose. She's very reminiscent of his Mother.
I just saw the episodes were they're up in Dunne Eagel and she's was a real B! Then she had the nerve to steal O'Brian from Lady Grantham! I never wanted to slap a person in my life!
@@kerriethompson2073 Yes, but wasn't it lovely that two of the most disliked characters ended up together, and ultimately out of sight and out of mind.
I can't stand Susan
I also love the fact that Rose will have a true mother figure who will love and accept Rose the way Susan never did.
I adored Lady Sinderby. She was strong, far thinking and loving.
When she stood up to Lord Sinderby at the wedding. 👏🏻
She went into total Mama Bear mode lol.
And Lord Sinderby immediately went quiet. He knew she meant every word. Its very clear who is the real power in their relationship he may act like he rules the roost but its an act all the same Lady Sinderby is the real power and she was so smooth and driscreet the way she took the wind from Susan's sails then put her husband in his place with a mere whisper lol
Loved me some Lady Sinderby going off on her husband and putting Susan in her place. What a great actress Penny Downie is, along with rest of the Downton cast.
Nobody busts out a “WOT?!?” better than Lord Sinderby.
😂😂😂For real😂😂😂Brutha said "WOT?!?" like he had the vapors!
Though a good second is Thomas in reply to Nanny West' nonsense.
Lady Violet knows the score: "It's too late for that my dear. Far too late."
I cannot imagine being so determent to ruin my daughters life like Susan is
Some make excuses for her but she just tries to make everyone else miserabele
Hahaha lady Flintshire is the worst and Violet TOLD HER
@@EstherHulst-Artist I cannot imagine being so DETERMINED to ruin my DAUGHTER'S life, like Susan is.
@@EstherHulst-Artist Susan gets the "C" word as a nickname.
@@RobertodelaVega-t3w Susam Flintshire was a miserable So-&-So. Remember when she wrote to the Dowager about the Lady Mary & Mr. Pamuk's situation? She was thrilled Violet said. But she was also jealous of the Crowleys. Their family relationships were warm & loving whilst she & Shrimpy could barely tolerate one another. & her relationship with Rose was a mess by her own hands & due to her wanting to control the poor girl. Also, she & Shrimpy had lost the family home; Duneagle Castle' due to mismanagement. The old adage is true about Susan: Misery Loves Company, sadly.
I adore Carson's impressed look when he learns that Lady Sinderby's family dates from the reign of Richard III. It's literally *rapidly re-evaluating my assessment of the in-laws to-be*.
Yes Richard III dug up under a Leicestershire car park where he'd been buried after the Battle of Bosworth and when the authorities did enhanced DNA tests there was
No connection. No bloodline to the Saxe Coberg Gotha's - this incumbent lot at all ! But no one talks of it ?
But Carson looked impressed at the mention of Richard III - history is
Intriguing and there are reasons
that in the 70's the Education authorities started to close down history and they only dealt with WWI Onwards. They don't want people to know or understand and enjoy history.
History widens our horizons and to some extent saves us from making the same mistakes again.
Peace ☮️ out
SW England 🇬🇧.
I absolutely love Carson's impressed glance when he learns that Lady Sinderby's family came over in the reign of Richard III.
Because her family go back four centuries which aristocracy take pride in. The further back you go the more you're revered
Lady sinderby loved Rose more than her real mother. Her face when she walked down the aisle spoke a 1000 words
"It's too late for that, my dear, FAR too late". Gotta love the Dowager Countess where she can burn you with just one sentence. LOL
Lady Sinderby and Lady Cora are both the best ladies in downton abbey!!!
@Don Losentes and both are originally born Jewish! The time between the World Wars was especially difficult for Jewish people everywhere. It made asses like Lord Sinderby and angels like Lady Sinderby. Cora, on the other hand, had a good but coniving mother who got her a pre-wars marriage with a man who had the same delights and problems with his mother! Cora's mom didn't intend it but she was the matchmaker of a lifetime. I feel for Lady Sinderby because Cora and Robert's love for each other is so beautiful. The good Lady deserved better yet insisted on being better! Bravo!
I'm also partial to Mrs. Crawley.
Lady Sinderby was the mother-in-law of dreams! I always imagined it must have been so nice for Rose to finally have a motherly relationship with someone in her life, after the hell that was her own mother, Lady Flintshire 😂
The way they pronounce her name, I never made the connection until seeing your comment in print. "Flint-shire" as if she is trying to burn down the house. And even Sinderby has a relationship to fire, "cinder". Curious that those names should come together.
Cora was motherly to her.
The moment in the registry office had me cheering!! I’m so happy videos are still being posted! Thank you whoever you are!🥰
She's tough as nails but gracious.
She’s so graceful and adept
That first dinner when she says it was a lot of fun, I loved her. She seems the kind of person whom you'd like to invite more often to your house.
She is tough when push comes to shove! Really liked her. Great casting. Would like to see more of her character in the next movie. Wonderful actress. 👏🏻
The Sinderby's easily could have carried off their own series. The tension between the Lord and Lady Sinderby charges every scene they appear in. Also, their characters seem to have a depth that draws you in to learn more about them as individuals and the world they live in.
The actor playing Lord Sinderby has the BEST voice!
The look on Lady Mary's face when she found out she would be with Lord Sinderby cracks me everytime😂
Everyone needs a Mother like her 💜Protecting the love and happiness of her Son💜
I love Lady Sinderby's character. She is a real lady through and through.
Penny Downie, who played Lady Sinderby, is an incredibly talented actress, originally from Brisbane in Australia.
Yes! I remember her as Syd in "The Cazalets" where she was quite different. Excellent actress,.
Taking down antisemitism like a champ. This lady has real class.
Lady Sinderby, quite a charming lady with an edge when necessary. She was not to be toyed with but willing to love and embrace. Similar to Cora. God, I love Downton Abbey.
I adore Penny Downie. Such a fabulous actor.
4:30 I love this conversation and the facial expressions of Rose's parents. No one's talking directly about them, but everyone knows their marriage is a sham.
The writing and acting delivery in this incredibly entertaining series was beyond fascinating. I cannot fathom anyone else in the role of Lady Violet than Dame Maggie Smith. She is simply delicious!! I am American, but have always loved anything period English. They have the market cornered.
I love Lady Sinderby, she's so radiant and gracious and beautiful 😍 she outsmarted that crabcake Lady Flintshire!
Tom looks so proper in his hunter's outfit. Total heartthrob!
Lady Sinderbys dress at the wedding is gorgeous
"But in marrying a Rothschild, there are certain compensations." Ah! yes, there are Violet, I quite agree!
Can u explain this,
@@veerseth4911 The Rothschild family is one of the ultra wealthiest jewish families in the world. So if you marry in that family, you are set for life.
@@veerseth4911 Hannah Rothschild was the sole heir of her father's enormous fortune, which she inherited at the age of 23. When she married the Earl of Roseberry, she was the wealthiest woman in Britain.
I thought most of the Rothschilds converted to Christianity, also they're not the richest people in the world, look up debunking Rothschild conspiracy theories
@@SerenaBlackCat Well idk about the whole Christian razzmatazz. We are talking about the Rothschilds before 1920s, when they were reigning supreme in wealth. And even if not the richest people in the world, they were anything but poor.
Lady Sinderby would have been a better companion to sweet Lord Flinshire... And Susan and Atticus' father deserve each other.
Too bad Susan doesn't like Jews.
Thanks to this comment I have now shipped Lady Sinderby and Lord Flintshire.
*Flintshire*
Lady Sinderby is a force of nature! Love her!
I love the little kiss she gives Rose during the ceremony!
"We pay well." Brilliant answer.
That made me laugh out loud. She put Susan in her place!
I love this character and the actress. Great dialogue.
« I dont want to hate anyone today » so lovely put :3
I loved Lady Sinderby wish she was in it more🙂🙂👍
Little did they know Atticus’ father is having is own affair. As much as I hated Susan for ruining her own daughter’s day, it’s kinda relieving when his secret unfolded in front of Lord Grantham’s family. That’s powerful & a shock for him. And Rose came forward to defend him.
Lord Sinderby had an affair??
@@Celisar1 yes and also he has a son from the affair. I think it’s on Christmas special episode.
I'm don't think Rose did it to defend him but rather to spare her dear mother-in-law the shock of finding out that her husband has been carrying on a affair. Lord Sinderby was discreetly paying to support the woman and the son he'd fathered with her. Rose obviously didn't approve (though when we first me her, she was having an affair with a man she knew was married), but she didn't want her mother-in-law to be hurt and her husband's family to be scandalized. Lord Sinderby obviously felt his guilt crashing down on him, but at least it taught him to appreciate his new daughter-in-law.
@@rowanaforrest9792 i agree with you on that too. It’s because Lady Sinderby loves Rose wholeheartedly. It’s a lovely mutual relationship between Rose and Lady Sinderby. Just like a mother and her daughter (unlike Rose’s own mother Lady Flintshire who tried ruining the wedding)
@@rowanaforrest9792 I think you are right: Rose was saving the occasion, protecting her loving mother-in-law, and not upsetting her beloved who would have had to face his father's betrayal of his loving, dutiful wife. And what a way that would have been for Atticus to discover he had a brother named Daniel after their father. I am not certain Rose was yet having an affair with the married man she was out partying with, but certainly it was in the offing if it had not begun already. I was glad Rose named her daughter Victoria Rachel Cora for her mother-in-law and Cora, whom she felt was more of a mother and guide to her than that godawful Susan. I was sad when she mocked Atticus' name that no one pointed out to her the culturally Roman origins of the name, while hers is from Hebrew Scripture (just to make the point sharper). What a rotter that woman was.
Probably my favorite compilation of Downton Abbey😊
Lady Sinderby is a very charismatic and wise soul . . . she is a very important character in the Downton world as well, especially for Rose . . .
and her husband.
Lady Sinderby and Rose's father are so kind and loving to their respective children.
The costumes are soo beautiful I just love them!
Loved her! She was so warm and welcoming to Rose. And she certainly knew how to deal with the dreadful Susan Flincher!
Flintshire
@@kathieprater2431 I stand corrected. X
Lady Sinderby is the epitome of a level of class and character that cannot be bought. The way she responds to Rose's incredibly snotty mother at 6:26 is a study of grace and gentility. She owned her and diffused her comments beautifully. And shows in the next scene that she wears a velvet glove over a steely hand.
I love how Lady Sinderby put Rose's mother in her place!
Lady Sinderby handled that perfectly, so diplomatic and smooth -- took the wind right out of Lady Flintshire's sails. Susan was shocked, which was soooo satisfying!
Superb work by everyone here.
Lady Sinderby is a force!!
She was kind to Tom, a rare gem for aristocrats.
They share a background of being outsiders, in their own ways.
Jews are always nice to the underdog
Honestly she wanted to know how the Grantham family tolerated and accepted him. He was a Catholic Irish chauffeur-wrong religion, wrong ethnicity, wrong class. So Lady Synderby wanted to get the scoop on how he managed to finagle himself into this family.
Love this show! I've watched it at least 3 times!
There is so much love in Lady Sinderby’s eyes…
Lady Sinderby is wonderful, and saves the marriage as well.
I know this is just a television show but the character of Rose’s MIL reminds me of my own beloved MIL.
She was one of my best friends, confidants and biggest supporter. I miss her every single day. ❤️
“Shrimpy and I are in the process of getting a divorce”
Lord Sinderby: NANI?!
I really enjoyed this compilation of scenes.
LORD & LADY MERTON BEST MOMENTS PLEASE
Especially his proposal of a romantic nature! Love Dickie Merton
"I leave you to the delights of your soup" is one of my favorite Dickie lines! They are SUCH a lovely couple and deserved every bit of their happy ending away from his horrid son and daughter-in-law.
She just might be my Favorite of all. The wee loving kiss she sends Rose at the wedding. Here’s my future fantasy: Lady Sinderby and Rose’s father make a new marriage.
Yeah, thanks to these comments I ship it
You realise, I expect, that divorce was not acceptable in society (for the two people you speak of to get a divorce and then remarry). Divorced people were not invited to any social functions. It's why people remained in wretched marriages and sought affection, comfort . . . from outside the marriage. The rule appeared to be that although their society peers were aware of the extra marital arrangements, but anyone who broke the code and spoke about it was immediately shunned. You may remember the row between the Sinderbys when Lady Sinderby threatened her husband with divorce if he continued with his behaviour. She'd divorce him, and that would be an even greater disaster. It'd certainly sink all his efforts to be accepted by society.
I love this character very very much! A lioness in the best way.
I'd love to see the clips of Rose's father putting her mother in her place for trying to stop Rose's wedding, when Rose saves Lord Sinderby's behind when his mistress shows up at Brancaster Castle, and when Lord Sinderby realizes how lucky he his to have Rose for his daughter-in-law.
Every time I watch a video on this channel I want to hit "like", but every time I see that I have already hit it before)))
Loved Lady Sinderby...she was a strong confident woman. 😎.....she didnt allow anyone to shake her ..especially that cat Susan Flintcher.
*Flintshire*
I enjoyed this character/actor so much
Lady Sinderby was a class act!
Rose has a wonderfully supportive Father, and a difficult, judgmental Mother. Atticus has a wonderfully supportive Mother and a difficult, judgmental Father. Rose and Atticus complete each other. I hope Lord Flintshire becomes as wonderful of a Father-in-law to Atticus as Lady Sinderby is as a Mother-in-law to Rose.
This show made me realize, how beautiful people were in old days ♥️
Nothing is more responsible for the good old days than a poor memory.
What?! Aren't there 'beautiful people' in every era? 🤔
Bravo to Lady Sinderby!
Susan…she liked Rose and didn’t care that Rose wasn’t Jewish. She probably wanted grandkids while she was still alive instead of waiting for the right Jewish girl so her husband could be happy.
The best series ever.
Rose: "Who did my enemy turn out to be?"
Shrimpy: "Never mind. You don't know him." He said speaking of his wife and her mother.
💜🩷✨️🍑 Lady Sinderby is as Beautiful as our Rose...and that says it all. ✨️🍑🩷🌹🌸🌺🍀Mazel Tov!
Rose's Mother reminds me of a narcissist.She tried to destroy Rose on her special day.
REMINDS? :-)
The most foolish thing Rose's mother said to Lady Sindiby, " do you have any English blood? The stupidity of it all!!!
She is very English.
Textbook antisemitism; and in contrast to Rose's comment of "why would you not be English" when first meeting Atticus. "English" blood is a mix of ethnicities anyway.
Well well, that is also a comment to her so hated Scottish husband, Irish Mr. Branson and American lady Cora.
Michelle…those who have “titles”, had ancestors who were dedicated to the defense of their country during the early history of England, and the king gave them lands and money from the treasury to help protect their lands, therefore protect against foreign invadors. Nobody has the so-called noble blood, it was just an invention by the church to keep themselves in the king’s graces (a king had huge numbers of followers). I could just go on!
@@marinazagrai1623 Please don't.
She owned this role. She did not disappoint.
Lady Sinderby is a Just Yes MIL! When she threatened to leave Lord Sinderby, I was like “you go girl!”
A true lady
Makes my blood boil how Susan did this on her daughter's wedding day, clearly trying to sabotage it and then sourly said to Violet if she was expected to just be a sore loser. WTF. IS this a competition for attention or she's just so disappointed she weren't able to destroy her child's life. What a character.
I loved her character and how she played it.
At least Lady Rose has a wonderful Father and with Lady Sinderby she is going to have a loving Mother too
That was amazing!
Lady Sinderby is gracious charming and wise. The quiet comment she made to 'shush' Lord Sinderby after Susan's declaration, always makes me wonder if she knew about the little Daniel, who turns up at the castle later with his mother.
I don't know, I don't think that she (the character Lady Sinderby) is that good an actress (I'm thinking about when Rose covered for Sinderby 's mistress and son at the front door) to have hidden her feelings so well had she known.
Tom Branson was a shock and a truly kind relief to the system.
Class = lady Sinderby !!!
Class act I loved her
Phoebe Nicholls is amazing at playing dislikeable characters.
Penny Downie is such an under-rated actor.
She was memorably charming as Cordelia in "Brideshead Revisited" -- going way back in the mists of time.
8:16 The look of a man who thought he was in complete control and command, only to realize his wife is actually the one in charge. 😂
I love Penny Downie! ❤️
Love Lady Sinderby. An all-round good egg 😃
Really nice.
What a class ACT! She was just perfect in every sense. I wish I can see the clip when Lady Rose saves Lord Sinderby's marriage.
It’s almost EVERY moment of Lady Sinderby