HPI Racing Savage X Flux V2 GT-6 Full Review - Best 1/8 RC Monster Truck? RC Nirvana!
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In this video we do the full review of the HPI Racing Savage X Flux V2. Let's see if it's still the best 1/8 monster truck available!
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You summarized it well. The Savage X Flux is great for enthusiasts who already have four or five 1/8th trucks and are looking to collect another one and don't mind the price tag. But for the other 90% of RC bashers, we can't justify buying the most expensive 1/8th truck with such low durability. If the price was $200 cheaper or the truck was way more durable it'd be justified. But it's not, you really aren't getting what you pay for.
That's Hpi for ya! I owned the Wr8 Ken Block enduro car and it was one of the best handling RC's I've ever owned but I would destroy the tires in a few runs and they were Beyond overpriced and hard-to-find so I got rid of it.
What HPI are charging for the quality they are putting out is atrocious. Clearly they are not the company they once were and in my opinion have no business making RC. Blatant disrespect for their customers.
Iv never used the Savage X Flux before but I did have a old school savage 4.6 nitro and for the time compared to others this was a very durable truck. I could back flip it and if I whip out im still driveing lol. I only broke like a arm or dog bone I think I was happy with it. Now I want a arrma talion exb 6s what do you think the most durable 1/8th truggy RTR you can buy ? I think the Talion would be druable and kraton please share ! thanks bud
@@Conceivedintheeyeofasecret Ya back in the day they were great. I loved mine and I only ever broke tiny cheap parts and usually always my fault lol I agree with you they seem to not be what they once were. Price up way more high and like dean connectors and no aluminium shocks and just the basic better stuff you would get at that price other companys over higher quality gear. I still have faith in them they switch owners to many times and I hope they still make RC but they have to up there game and qaulity for me to get another one
I did buy one, but I got it for this reason. I was getting tired of the “truggy” style monster truck or truggy. I wanted something different. Honestly it’s been a good truck I don’t heavy bash and it’s held up. It’s a little hard to work on but you won’t bend that chassis very easily!
My Flux v2 is the most durable truck in my collection and it killed some other trucks with crashes.
BUT it was assembled so badly. I thought this was the first RC ever that was build by the chinese kid in the factory.
I now installed the centre diff and so it is bulletproof.
I was shocked at how much it is compared to the others, kind of a no brainer, it does look like it handles great in the stunt area, but again ya hit the nail on the head with this review, good job brother
Being a savage owner for 25 years you can easily ad additional shocks not sure why they cheaped out. You can only hope hpi truly returns for real.
Great review, I love my old Savage flux XL... One of my favorites!
Great honest review as always👍 It's one of those things, long in the tooth but once you get this dialed in right you got gold.
Thanks 👍
Savage flux is a great rc, ive had mine for like 6 years, its been the most reliable rc ive ever owned
Great review! I like the detail you provide.
I get annoyed about the differentials needing anything at this price but if the whole is worthy I can shim and fill those myself .
Your review was spot on. I owned the original nitro, and the flux.
I actually own a pretty "old" Savage Flux HP... Aannddd gotta admit, it's pretty durable and strong. Had some pretty good crashes on a track, and everyone was wondering what was broken, but still.. Until this day, nothing major broke anywhere.. I drive it on 6s Lipo..
Great video and thanks for the honest review, have a great weekend brother
Thanks, you too!
Awesome review! Friends of mine who own a savage say basically the same.
Very good and honest /objective review.
Great well thought out video! I think this is the same mistake losi made with the 3xle, they over priced it for what it was. Then when the price went down and people actually bought it, they loved it. I don't know who this is for exactly? because if it's for the masses, they priced themselves out. if it's for the hardcore savage fan, there's not enough new there to replace the old one.
As much as it hurts to say this with current rc prices, 600-620 is what I would be willing to pay. (A year ago it would be 530)
Hi Razor, thanks for giving us another great vid. Can't wait for your review of the fireteam. I know you buy your own, so may be a bit, but I believe you give is real world reviews on these rigs from someone with alot of experience and realistic expectations. Nothing against the big air high speed YT guys, I appreciate their content as well. I relate more with your reviews for what "I" will likely encounter in using these rigs. Thanks, keep up the great content👌🤘
I appreciate these reviews as well. It’s ok to keep it real. Most of us can see though the haze anyway
Great and honest review 👌🏻
Thank you 🙂
Gotta love the Savage. I had a GS storm with a SH .21 pullstart and my friend got the Savage it had the same SH .21. He laughed at my tiny buggy. I got a hyper 7 and put a XTM .247 in it. He did the same. Then I got a Ofna/Picco .26 and it was game over lol. His Savage ended up with a Picco .28. It was a BEAST of a truck. This was almost 20 years ago.
The "Fun Factor" at the end of the day is all that matters. I still drive a Rc-10T3 regularly because it is so dialed in and fun to drive.
On point. Ty sir.
i was so hyped for this rerelease and then i saw the price
When i bought my V1 a few years ago , i paid 649.00 i think 🤔 …not 100% have to check. Savage was the king at a moment in time, like you said about 10+ years ago. I have to nitro and flux edition. Apparently they said a month or so ago they purchased a huge warehouse to support the USA. So only time will tell. We shall see if HPI comes back like they use to be. Razor great video thanks bro, you are on point😉👍🏼💯
Nice Review 😀
Thanks! 😀
I’m happy they finally updated the transmission to accept a center differential option. The diff bulkheads however I’m disappointed they didn’t beef them up by altering the design a bit. The hing pin braces are the same old flimsy ones which they really should have changed up in the worst way. Overall, happy to see HPI back producing the legendary Savage, but it’s time for a complete redo to compete with today’s trucks. What we can really use is a 1/6 Savage and they can name it the Super Savage or something.
The savage in the nitro side is the most durable rc truck. That is why is my favorite!
Given all the issues, there's just something about a Savage. I picked up an older Flux XL and am building it. You're spot on about it being an enthusiasts truck. I'm also into the nitros. #NitroGang
I do not know if I would spend to pick one of these up, but I def am interested it the truck. Would like to try before I buy for this truck.
Awesome video as always. What is the differences between this and the savage xl flux gtxl besides lengths. I would like to see a comparisons video.
My father has the original svg Flux. It's a badass car.
HPI one of the best RC company or maybe only the best RC company
Anyone who is a true rc enthusiast would just appreciate the fact that the savage is back. People are complaining that it's so expensive and that this and that is better but Imo that's all in the driver with exception yes there are some rc's that are just absolutely junk the savage is not one of those and never has been. Just think 🤔 for a minute the savage has barely changed in over 20 years but yet still is very durable any rc I've ever driven especially ones with this kind of weight and power things will break. With basic knowledge of how to prepare a rc before ever taking out for the first drive and not intentionally jumping it 20 feet in the air without any intentions of trying to land the jump then yes it will break. Lastly the savage is easily the most realistic monster truck in the basher lineup in the market.
Do you have any updates? I was a big savage fan back in the day, I had the first nitro 21 they ever made and it was a beast, but electric has really taken over in a good way. I would love to see what upgrades you have done/recommend and how the savage is doing after almost a year of bashing. Great review btw! I think this is my third time watching it, lol.
That's a lot of issues to justify $800 price tag.
My question is does the Savage still have crazy horse power quadruple back flip on 6s power that the Savage was known for
Id really like to see you review the Hobao Hyper MT plus 2, its very similar to the Savage X and other twin vertical plate RCs. I recently picked one up myself haven't had the chance to run it yet but i am very impressed with it personally.
I plan to get one someday, hopefully this year.
you would think by now the diffs would be fluid filled. it runs nice though.
yeah, not sure what they're thinking. It's a mess to clean out all the old sticky grease, but it seems a lot better with diff fluid.
I wish we had the locations that you have to run our cars, they are very few and far between in the UK.
I just bought one today brand new for $499 at my local dealer. Its a freakin deal.
I agree completely with this video, and Ive come up with a good conclusion for it: Not worth it. When I first saw the teaser that HPI was finally coming back I was super stoked, and then I saw the price and just kinda stopped and went "what the hell?" Maybe they are trying to make some cash off the nostalgia from the old days when the original Savage Flux HP was the king of the bashing community over a decade ago. Maybe they don't have a choice. HPI hasn't changed ownership so many times for just no reason, they have been bankrupt more times than I can count and this might be one final desperate attempt to get back into the game. Its honestly tragic to watch such a great company go through such hardship but until the price comes down a significant amount, the answer is no, I wouldn't buy it. If it ever matches the price of the Traxxas E-Revo 2.0 ($650USD), then maybe, and if it matches the price of the Arrma Kraton 6S V5 ($600USD), then I would probably pick one up, but at about the $770 it is now, not a chance, especially with plastic shocks, just an absolute ripoff. HPI thinks they can just suck money out of nostalgic fanboys and they are going to find out the hard way that such a strategy is NOT how you do good business.
Great review, stuck between this and an oucast 6s exb currently not sure which one to get, had a rs4 nitro mt, and a savage x nitro, but now not sure about the longevity of HPI, the savage nitro was a fun truck though.
Go with exb imo , I have the nitro also but I never used it bought as a roller for 200 bucks years ago only rc I ever owned to go up in value just sitting on the shelf lol
@@paulclancy2404thanks yes that's the way I'm heading currently👍
To bend the side plates you would have to hit a curb at full speed or a wall thats the only way IV seen them bend to fix just take them off put on a flat surface and hammer them back and put back together 👍👌✌️💯🏎️🛠️
I was really thinking about this when the Associated MT8 came out for preorder. Couldn’t justify over $200 price difference. I really do like the savage flux xl though 😬 but haven’t ever gotten to see/drive one!
MT8 looks good, hopefully it gets released soon. If they put out a V2 of the Savage XL, I'd have to really think about getting one!
@@RazorRC same. The XL is just a cool size.
Just compare it to the rc4wd Carbon MT and the price ain't so bad?I still run my old ae 1/8 rival and nitro mgt and find that rc nirvana.Great review only it reminds of the regret of selling my savage x so many years ago.
Does anyone know if I can buy a differential that is better than the stock ones I am on my 3rd rear diff so far thanks
more running videos please
As a Savage fanatic, I enjoyed this review. Probably why tube got me here. On the electric side I know pretty much nothing so this was very interesting, they have always been a bit of a premium just like losi good reference!!!! I have always been astonished at how expensive the electric is as I just don't see it like you said, honestly in any of them.... it's not like they come with 6s batteries. On the nitro end it's a straight up no brainer. The nitro actually benefits a lot from the HD electric drive line now. But yes agree hpi needs something for the mass market.... or to find a way tho get the price down. Or something fresh. Gotta give it props though it's like the great grandad of all modern bashers. Screws, shock shafts no biggie those are in the dollars diffs though hmm that's a bummer. Was it just the spider gears?
actually it was the sun gears, one chipped its teeth and one split in half, I think it also took out the alloy diff case
@@RazorRC Holy crap. Major bummer. One thing that's happened to me is the sun / crown gear screws like to back out of the diff cup, throw the lash off and if you dont catch it pow your out some serious cash. Dang man even if that didn't happen still a major bummer.
Oh, and that price is eye-watering for what you get...
I know its rtr vs kit, but how do you feel about how this drives vs your tekno mt410. It looks like overall dimensions are pretty similar.
Def same wheelbase and such but TOTALLY different drive haha, mt410 still a racing kit and flies beautifully threw the air, savage takes a little skill to fly but it has a fun personality just to drive, mt410 much lighter too just very different based on that ya wanna do
Mt410 very fun for sending but kinda lacks personality for just fun factor on messing around
The MT410 drives a little better, it's pretty much a race truck. But limited to 4S!
Can you open up the bottom of the center transmission and check on that lower drive gear? The XL flux gearbox used that same gear but wasn’t meshed right and only wore on half of the teeth
I opened it up, seems OK. Not super tight, but within spec IMO.
What lipo batteries did you use
Would you recommend this or Team associated mt8
How did the diffs end up lasting?
I’ve got hpi vorza and it so damn hard to get part for it but amazing car
I hope they keep improving the parts support!
Great review as always 👍 Best handling 1/8 scale MT 😱 that's a pretty serious endorsement! Are you including the Tekno MT410 in that comparison?
I haven't driven many MTs but my Tekno handles amazing and not only that its super super durable which puts it close to #1 for me lol The price you pay for a Tekno build ($900-xxxx) is well worth it
Best handling RTR, but not better than my tuned MT410. 👍
@@RazorRC Best handling is nice for sure, but durability matters when it comes to our pocketbooks hehe!! Of course, the Tekno isn't bulletproof and anything will break if you land wrong :)
The 410 is a 1/10th scale though..Not 1/8th
@@philthyco1 yeah dude I know. Razor puts it in the 1/10 scale because that's how Tekno advertises it, but it's clearly 1/8
I got a buddy that won't drive my xs and it's so much fun
At that price, with the diff and tire glue problems out of the box it is not one I would want to buy. I know it's not an rtr but I'm curious how this compares in size to the MT410?
They are similar in size. Savage X is 25 mm wider, 1 mm longer wheelbase, 4 mm longer.
Upgrade to machined diffs and shim it and this will be a solid truck even with upgraded motor.
Man, HPI dropped the ball with this One!!
As a previous owner of the original Savage Flux, I'm disappointed to see it still has many of the original issues - thin shock shafts that bend easily, upper shock screws as well, still has those annoying rear toe-in links that definitely break easily (Integy used to make an aluminum toe-link eliminator that was a mandatory upgrade), and those diffs are not sealed - if you put silicone oil in, it will leak out, they are designed to be grease only. Biggest letdown is the electronics. The original Flux came with Castle Creations Monster system, and the truck could do rolling and standing backflips, not many trucks could do that. And where's the wheelie bar? The original came with one, could do wheelies as far as you had room for.
The motor and esc are good enough. It's the hobbywing quicrun system that all arrmas ran with. And the new Spektrum firma is also basically a rebranded quicrun in a different housing. Agree on all the other points though.
That HW system pulls rolling and standing backflips in my XL all day long, stays cool for the whole battery too
@@AsurasWrath164 no doubt that HW motor/esc are good enough, however for price they should have went with a castle motor & esc combo. Like we had in V1. It just builds value. Just my 2 cents
@@ty27tp you converted nitro xl savage to brushes?
@@paulclancy2404 no it’s a genuine XL Flux
14:47 all you need to know hpi ftw!
This ia unfortunate. I was really looking forward to owning one. Maybe if they sell lots of them and people support them that way (which is hard to justify at that price point vs what you get) they will eventually upgrade it to the level that it actually deserves. Time will tell. Im glad it got 5 stars on performance though 👍
Are you getting the newer kronos xtr? Considering the skeeter review by you and how everyone loved it. That thing will put an insane fight against this at least in performance category.
not sure yet
Hi what do I have to do to make the car spin faster when i do a backflip
Increase the punch level, but watch your tires don’t come unglued!
I don't remember hpi having a Brushless savage Flux x .I thought that was a nitro rc. They had the savage xl Flux and I bought that rc and the diffs and shocks and radio were Crap. They should of Did a Flux HP 2.0 or a Flux 2350 2.0!
In the Maxx video you mentioned that it would benefit it if you could move the rear shocks in front of the upper arm. On this it seems you have that option, why haven't you done it?
2 reasons: The weight bias doesn't seem as backwards as the Maxx. Also, I think moving the shocks to the front would twist the arms a lot when landing on the rear corners of the truck without the shocks there to resist the impact.
@@RazorRC Thanks for the explanation!
Not many RC cars that get two stage springs to work properly. Credit to HPI for that.
Great review and the one thing I will say is I would rather have drive shafts like dog bones over plastic driveshaft like Traxxas does it that's my opinion. But great review I really like your videos keep up the good work
Thinking about buying the losi mini t 2.0 brushless or would i be better to start out with a 1/10 scale.
What's ur yard look like grass or gravel
Definitely not worth what they’re asking for it imo.
What diff gears did you get?
Basically this: www.ebay.com/itm/162554437906?hash=item25d8ffe112:g:KE8AAOSwDrNZQlKQ I think all the hardened ones from China are the same.
Everyone that is into Rc's knows that you take the truck apart and go through everything before running it!
I just finished building my Kraton 6s EXB. Got it on the Black Friday sale and put all premium components in it.
Sounds like you are having to put another $100 or so into that to make it reliable.
So my Kraton 6s EXB fully built out for good bit less that savage x v2. Confusing! It sure did look like it drive very well though!
That sale was the steal of the century!
@@RazorRC heck yeah it was! The tiny adventures rc had a 20% off everything sale. Including all the HH brands. Preordered the Associated MT8, and bought the new TRX4, an infraction mega, and another (🤷🏼♂️😂) Mad Van!
Those two back to back sales cost me a lot of money 😂
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Thanks for the review. I think I’m gonna pass on this one. Just not for me.
Fair enough!
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WOW! Hpi used to build very though cars not no more. What happened?
worst design to work on, had the savage nitro back in the day, just rebuilt my buddies flux, hate the TVP setuo.
Suspension doesn't look very strong
Nitro one is better
I guess I better find out!
Can buy a 1/5 scale gas baja for 5 bills or less.. Gas vehicles are the way to go right now. Electric manufacturers are off there rocker with prices ! Not only that but gas is way cheaper to get into RC, Don't have to buy batteries or chargers. They come with for batteries to control the car. So it's 3 bucks for gas. 6 bucks for oil mix, your in it for 9 bucks to run and have fun. Electric 70 bucks minimum 6s battery, 50 bucks charger. Granted two totally different style driving vehicles, but not any more fun than the other. Just different. I'm done with buying any more electric, till they get more reasonably priced. Keep up the vids like watching.. 😊
Not only that but it's a piece of plastic with some metal gears 800 bucks REALLY !!!!!!!!!!!! I can buy a 3000 lb. car to drive to the grocery store or work for that. And if it dies can still get 500 bucks for scrape metal.
I'm recently getting into older nitros on ebay for the exact same reason. Why should I spend $500+ on a new electric that the $40+/each batteries I already own don't fit in or have the proper s level?
There's a learning curve with combustion, and you can't run them at night if you're bored, but they're super cool and more exciting in a lot of ways!
$800 for a new rc, $100 on batteries.... You're out of your mind!
Theres no purple, blasphemy
I miss the purple!
Not polished average rc car.