Partially, while yes the spiff vid, it was a game he exploited and played i remember that drew me to find out more information on him. And I rememeber that event clearly lol
I once used the negative integer exploit... on a bitcoin exchange and it worked. This was back when bitcoin was worth $2 each. I did it with $400 as my first test and then told the exchange. Got to keep the money. Stupidly sold it for beer money.
WoW private Server, fun with package editing: character creation with a space inside... makes you unbanable with ingame commands... Or stuff like, you "reuse" some action and execute a AOE spell in rapid fire... (killed a invisible gm following me... was fun XD)
They do, but the weakness is the client has functions/routines that are responsible for encrypting and decrypting the packets or the game wouldnt function correctly. A reverse engineer can locate those functions and intercept them using hooks which eliminates all of that work.. you don't need to understand how the encryption works fully to do a MITM attack.
A game shouldn't rely on packet encryption though. As a developer you need to logically prevent exploits on the server side because anything client side is just a cat and mouse game.
because that's pretty much impossible. no matter how much you encrypt the packets client-side wise you will always lose to a motivated hacker who will reverse engineer the game's source code and hook the functions. the video goes over the part about the game call rift online, he said they got a gold star for encrypting their packets but the very beginning function that does it all you can basically hook them and that's gg. now this isn't all doom and gloom, mmo game companies need to not be lazy and do server side security. it isn't much to tell the server that it will not be accepting negative values, idk why they don't do that.
He was reverse engineering MMO game clients and creating own tools for real time DLL hooks, as a teenager, for shits and giggles (at first)? Sounds like this story is missing some parts.
A bit late, but while it may be possible to have fun with warframe, I know of friends who have tried to hack the game several ways (mostly in Solo, so hosted locally), and most of the time their accounts ended up getting banned. so there definitely are checks in place.
>be ethical Lol dude, hacking someone's plot of land and removing them and then turning around and selling that plot of land for 2k dollars is about as far from ethics as you can get in a game 🤣
@@jamestomlin5525 he said he would do that to houses abandoned for over 5 week, that were ready to collapse, so he wouldn't destroy houses from players who were playing, i think for 2 reasons, 1 ethics, 2 avoid suspicion
@@DarakayGamingStudio I know I know lol I'm just being a little shit. Really, props to the guy. He's incredibly smart to have not only done this but been paid for it as well
Hold tight my little bit to old socially awkward mmo guys. Slayer by day looking for weird bots and porn at, the rest of the time. While hiding your 2.7 year login time on runescape.#nolyfefml
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The first 10 minutes is like really reading Ultima Online protocol specification =))
This is exactly how we used to hack into Maple Story as well
Bet this gets a few more views due to spiffs video 😄
Guilty as charged.
Partially, while yes the spiff vid, it was a game he exploited and played i remember that drew me to find out more information on him. And I rememeber that event clearly lol
Reporting in
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love how innocently he says "close your eyes" and just trusts the internet won't pause the video
I'm here
He had his lawyer on the phone constantly telling him what not to talk about🤣🤣🤣
Brilliant presentation even three years on.
I once used the negative integer exploit... on a bitcoin exchange and it worked. This was back when bitcoin was worth $2 each. I did it with $400 as my first test and then told the exchange. Got to keep the money. Stupidly sold it for beer money.
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Just when i started playing ff14...
Also, quite strange how runescape isn't in here.
Glad I'm the only one thinking about runescape, he must be hiding a huge exploit he knows and this his real bread and butter 😂
you said he posted on his TH-cam him hacking the game live? where can I see the videos? i can't find his channel
WoW private Server, fun with package editing: character creation with a space inside... makes you unbanable with ingame commands... Or stuff like, you "reuse" some action and execute a AOE spell in rapid fire... (killed a invisible gm following me... was fun XD)
Which tools do you use to change packets u send from ur client to the server
It's sad that people do this to destroy the experience for other players. This is why I believe in violent punishment.
i understood nothing and was still interested.
The VLC installer is sitting onthe thumb drive
45:19 45:31 dude in the background is getting schwifty
wow
IKR
I'm going to learn how to do this.
Is that vista?!
Help people; How do I contact him? it's for a task
How come the games don't encrypt their packets properly?
They do, but the weakness is the client has functions/routines that are responsible for encrypting and decrypting the packets or the game wouldnt function correctly. A reverse engineer can locate those functions and intercept them using hooks which eliminates all of that work.. you don't need to understand how the encryption works fully to do a MITM attack.
A game shouldn't rely on packet encryption though. As a developer you need to logically prevent exploits on the server side because anything client side is just a cat and mouse game.
@@givvygvidon7279 Is there a place/source to learn more on this?
because that's pretty much impossible. no matter how much you encrypt the packets client-side wise you will always lose to a motivated hacker who will reverse engineer the game's source code and hook the functions. the video goes over the part about the game call rift online, he said they got a gold star for encrypting their packets but the very beginning function that does it all you can basically hook them and that's gg. now this isn't all doom and gloom, mmo game companies need to not be lazy and do server side security. it isn't much to tell the server that it will not be accepting negative values, idk why they don't do that.
Accelerando!!
Manfred Macx?!
This guy is fucking amazing
What was the name of the Gm, who coined the name Manfred? that name could be interesting
Womanfreddy
This dude is a genius, but the real secret with him is to play his videos at 1.25 x- 1.5x speed ;)
He was reverse engineering MMO game clients and creating own tools for real time DLL hooks, as a teenager, for shits and giggles (at first)? Sounds like this story is missing some parts.
Darknet Diaries featured him and his story in two episodes. He goes much more in-depth there.
anyone have any idea how to build the 'client side dll hook' he mentioned?
Yes
@@ricardonacif5426 comment was a year ago, I've pretty much figured it out by now haha
@@drygordspellweaver8761 so how
I imagine because of the a player hosts a game network warframe might be another good contender
Wish I were smarter
it was hard to get through that beginning, he sounded so bored and bummed to be there. lucky for him the topic is worth hearing about
I wonder if he ever got into eve online. You could make a fortune if anything like this works on eve. And I imagine he could. Eve are just numbers
EVE developers created their own os to run the game servers. I doubt they forgot to do server side checks on all the command that you can send
A bit late, but while it may be possible to have fun with warframe, I know of friends who have tried to hack the game several ways (mostly in Solo, so hosted locally), and most of the time their accounts ended up getting banned. so there definitely are checks in place.
"provide service that puts the bot farmers out of business?" Nice to see people still believe in Santa Claus 🎅😂
I mean technically if you can mute bots for everyone or straight up kill them (especially on a pvp grief server)...
With all the crap going on at wow now, hackers need to hit the servers hard and break the game.
@@itdepends604 this
Let people solo mythic raids lol
what is happening?
@@Neceros ...... look it up man is all I can say, it's baaaad
@@jamestomlin5525 how can I when you won't tell me
@@Neceros just look it up dude, you're either trolling or your head is in the sand
Not the best speaker, but the information was very interesting
Not everybody is extrovert. He's clearly have knowledge, he just not used to talk to big crowds.
WDYM he's a great speaker. Clear, relaxed, Had the audience cracking up.
@@klarnorbert He clearly has knowledge unlike you.
>be ethical
Lol dude, hacking someone's plot of land and removing them and then turning around and selling that plot of land for 2k dollars is about as far from ethics as you can get in a game 🤣
He did say that he did some unethical things early on. That's what he was talking about.
@@zippolight2002 true. Still, this is nuts man
@@jamestomlin5525 he said he would do that to houses abandoned for over 5 week, that were ready to collapse, so he wouldn't destroy houses from players who were playing, i think for 2 reasons, 1 ethics, 2 avoid suspicion
@@DarakayGamingStudio I know I know lol I'm just being a little shit. Really, props to the guy. He's incredibly smart to have not only done this but been paid for it as well
"Same" exploits. 😑
Sound like he lives off of lazy Server programmers, that dont check any packet for plausible parameters and what players they are linked to...
bet you know more
Bunch of leaked methods all compiled into one presentation lmao
Awful audience
Hold tight my little bit to old socially awkward mmo guys. Slayer by day looking for weird bots and porn at, the rest of the time. While hiding your 2.7 year login time on runescape.#nolyfefml
You are just an actor
He's a criminal lol don't sugarcoat it
Which laws exactly did he break?