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April 1, 2023
In this episode, Sal Mercogliano - maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner - examines Part I of the 60 Minutes report on The State of the Navy.
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Is the Navy ready? How the U.S. is preparing amid a naval buildup in China | 60 Minutes
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Wow, Sal. Between that interview and your running analysis, I feel like I've just attended a naval defense master class. You do great work and I am thoroughly enjoying the content that you consistently produce for this channel!
I haven't watched 60 Minutes in years and would have missed their excellent feature on naval readiness. Your fact checking, deeper dives added to the understanding of the role the US Navy is expected to perform when ordered to perform it, and their readiness. Your historical perspectives help explain why the tensions exist today.
Peter 60 minutes Australia posts on TH-cam. Its very well done and I'd compare its reporting to the old US 60 minutes. Has an Aussi take on things but is great nevertheless.
I am so grateful you were able to get your information out in context with the 60 minutes show. Thank you.
Thank you for putting this 60 Minutes interview up Sal. I think your own analysis is spot on.
Regarding Chinese technology, given how close Moscow and Bejing are growing and PAST technology transfers my own estimation is that "If Russia has it, so does China or soon will have." Plus there are the evident cases of technology thefts through industrial espionage by China against not only the U.S. but most other Western powers.
I was wondering when Nora was going to mention the SSN riding alongside Nimitz. I guarantee that the crew of that boat was NOT enjoying the ride. A fast attack boat is a creature of the deep sea, not a surface ship designed to cut through the waves.
Love your content Sal. Stay safe and stay well sir.
China is stealing shift that the US don't even have it very very for America these days.....!!!!!!!
This was some of the best PR for the Navy since Top Gun.
This channel is top of game for maritime analysis and commentary. Thanks. Semper Paratus!
Thankyou so very much filling it the gaps in this report by 60 minutes.
Excellent and educational. Thank you and can't wait for part two.
Great job Sal, it was an eye opener, in my 23 years in the navy I never seen a sub at sea, we knew they where there some where. This story and your comments just shows, we are way behind due to or lack of “Made in America” and how we have damage our. Self. 😢
Outstanding content Sal. I learned so much about the state of our naval capabilities. Well done!
Thanks Sal. You are an educator in every aspect! Stay well ❤️
Incredible work you do Professor! Thank you so much. This was epic - your best episode yet by a considerable margin. I've been wondering when you would get a chance to comment on this, directly as you've often mentioned how China's staggering build rate for their navy became evident.
Award worthy documentary Dr. Sal. I look forward to part 2!
The show 60 Minutes often feeds its viewers what they want to watch, which reinforces many people's prejudices. Individuals like you, who can make objective judgments, are becoming increasingly rare. I hope you can provide more insight into the Chinese navy that you have observed and the strategic challenges it poses to the world. I would also appreciate it if you could talk more about the actual combat capabilities of Chinese warships.
One of, if not the best video you have presented for us. Thank you
Wow, thank you!
"With great enthusiasm, the people are led down the path to their destruction." - Eljas Erkko, Finnish foreign minister, 1939.
Right on brother.
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There's a lot to think about and unpack just from this video. Logistics is a huge subject for any nations naval readiness, then there are the young sailors aboard these vessels who are maturing in our nation's current culture and the extent of actual warrior training they are receiving...it's not like they can go to a safe space aboard ship until they can get their feelings sorted out with incoming weapons bearing down on them. Having ships on station is one thing, but having young sailors capably trained in an "American Fighting Man" mindset who are willing to do the job is another, and then there's the resupply issues in the midst of conventional warfare still another. I know today's Navy is nothing like the cold war Navy I served in, I'm not sure it's as ready or as capable as it was in the 1980s.
Do you get your information about the training of navy personal from the Navy/Navy personal or do you get it from 3rd parties and media pundits? Just curious
@Sic 576 from my Son, a PR1, he's out on 31 May.
@@macnachten8822 If you got the time to answer, I'm curious about what he had to say about the personal/training issues in the navy, I only heard about moral issues related to bad/toxic leadership.
First time seeing your channel, you leave emotion out of your reporting and just your analysis and facts, well done. I'm a former Navy on the New Jersey BB-62 me and some friends would go back in a heart beat. New sub
Mainstream media at best is a starting point for the real info you get from great channels like this.
Thanks Garrett!
Absolutely tremendous stuff Sal I'm sending this off to a friend of mine who is a retired Navy 06 and still teaches at the war college.
Sal, excellent staff’ work annotating the 60 minutes piece. Love your work. Keep it up!
This was awesome! I'm looking forward to your next video.
I would also toss in the "hunter-killer" attack sub's to go after "enemy" shipping
In 2006, a SONG class submarine surfaced not very far astern of USS KITTYHAWK, well within the carrier's ring of escorts.
You're the Best Sal !! Thank You !!
I don't think I will ever forget how casually the reporter talked about losing two aircraft carriers! Any warfare in space could trigger a chain reaction that closes access to low earth orbit as well as destroying communications that could last years.
Such a wonderful analysis! Thank you! You're such a blessing!
Great work Mr. Sal, please keep it going so we Americans can stay well informed!
Thank you Sal, I was a MT on SSBN730G, and you are correct!
WOW, I can't wait for Part 2
Thank you, Sal!
Just one minor clarification..
It was Taiwan’s president Tsai Ing-wen who called Trump to congratulate him on his victory.. Trump replied that he was reconsidering the "one China" policy, yet soon reassured Xi Jinping that he was completely committed to it, but diverged with Taiwan (50/50?) on the recognition of Taiwan's independence while using the island as a sort of bargaining chip with China. Xi took the US' position as a detriment to China's near-term goal of hegemonizing the Indo-Pacific region with China's "economic and military ascendance", further deteriorating US/China policy.
I admit that I don't know much about this, as there seems to be other factors contributing to the escalation at play (the Davidson window, perhaps?), but these things are very important to try and clarify (if you could, this would be a great video). Thanks again, Sal!
Really enjoying this video, I appreciate your critiques of the navy especially your coverage of the bonhomme richard fire and it is unsettling to think how little may have changed since that disaster
If you have served under clinton or Obama and now Obama 2 , you wouldn't be surprised at how piss poor Naval leadership is nowadays.
Need a podcast. I want to listen on my awful drive to work.
Great video like always !
The USS Blue Ridge (LCC-19) was commissioned on 14 November 1970. The USS Mount Whitney (LCC-20) was commissioned on 16 January 1971. I was surprised that all of the older tenders have been decommissioned. USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) was commissioned on July 22, 2017. First-in-class USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) is set to deploy the first week of May following the completion of a series of certification exercises, service officials said on Tuesday, April 4th, 2023.
The US Navy is a bumbling bureaucracy where nobody is held accountable. SAD
A very good talk about the equipment(ships), logistics(supply), politics-along with the pros and cons of each. What is lacking, is manning(personnel). I was in, when the first gulf war started. How many times did I hear the phrase-I did not enlist to fight. How many female personnel became pregnant-to avoid deployment(Now- there is 12 months leave for pregnancies-who is going to fill those slots?). This was happening in the active and guard branches. Now throw in the transgender situation(a nightmare for deployment), the DEI and woke training and the fact that none of the branches can meet their enlistment needs. Look at the numbers of service men/women who were discharged because of the covid vaccine. All branches have lowered their requirements to just get live bodies in-look at some of the youtube videos of recruits trying to pass any PT test. I am not trying to make my comments political. I am just stating facts. There is a very serious personnel issue with all branches. Unless the current admin goes back to the draft (and that would really open up a hornets nest)-we will be screwed-no matter how much BS comes out of DC.
I live in the Midwest USA, I believe that no US lives or money should be used on this conflict.
The Soviets probably thought they were calming things down when they sent missiles to Cuba, but they stirred up a hornets nest that almost ended the world. I feel like we’re doing the same thing by sending weapons and promising aid to Taiwan.
@@ryanmarek4040 Great analogy. Yes, Taiwan seems to be the Cuba of mainland China!
You had better be ready to downgrade your existence, like horse and buggy times, for many years.
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Nimitz can do more then everything new the other guys have regardless of her age
Good job Sal. I liked that chart you showed where basically, the attack community went away, the F-14 community went away, in my opinion the alpha strike capability went away and now they have to close in fight, but we'll prevail.
We'd collect all their incoming shipping first. All of their oil tankers would be diverted to safe ports for redistribution.
Really good video today. Thanks
Nice of you to point out its a team effort. I was in SEA 1966-1967. I'd always call Sal.
You were wondering about resupply. Supplies and logistics at Darwin, Indonesia, Philippines and Japan, Australia is working some deals with PNG too and Vietnam and South Korea were unsure at this stage. The only trouble with the locations that the allies have right now is they’re all within strike range, even Darwin, which is a long distance to transport. But at this stage what they’re setting up here in Australia looks pretty impressive, so it looks to us like this will be home base and supplies and logistics sent out from here maybe? Should be interesting, the Aussies and Americans had some pretty wild times last time you guys were set up camp here in dictator-decimate round 2 series, should have some fun stories come out of round 3 😂
I just wonder how many Aldrich Ames are prowling, that scares me more than anything, also the HF radio comms really should be bolstered
The US Navy has an army (Marines though they don't like that characterization) and an air force, as well as its surface and submarine force. The submarine force is its main strategic element with carriers its main tactical hammer. The next largest Navy is less than a tenth it's size.
Thank you Sal.
This is a late comment. But I don't think that the public knows a lot about 'the logistics tail' that follows the Navy around and keeps the ships on the water. That's basically what Sal's blog is about. We've got some serious problems that need to be fixed, such as repair capacity during a major conflict and even during peace time. The DOD contractors that maintain are ships, i.e. the supply chain isn't healthy since all of that has been outsourced to China for the commercial fleet. During previous wars, commercial contractors could be counted to come help maintain and repair battle damage to the USN.
Excellent !!!
Excellently done.
Put some Hardened Aircraft Shelters in at Anderson and Kadena AFBs, for goodness sake!
You forgot to mention that the ballistic missiles on submarines are MIRVs. I won't say how many warheads per missile but it's fairly common knowledge that the number of warheads per missile is greater than one.
So the SSBN carries UP TO, UP TO 24 missiles times x number of warheads...
Mirvs were removed under the START Treaty. The US has never acknowledged that they have resumed the deployment of MIRV warheads on the Ohios.
Which version of the Start treaty was supposed to accomplish that? Because these guys said that, "...Today, the United States, the United Kingdom, and France use MIRV technology on SLBMs..." over at armscontrolcenter.org/multiple-independently-targetable-reentry-vehicle-mirv/
Thanks!
Thank you so much Anthony for your continued support.
I empathize with Chinas concerns about control of the seas to ensure they don’t loose the ability to import the necessary goods, but in an ironic twist Chinas actions to ensure this, may very well be the thing that leads to those routes being threatened. In the same way Russias actions and treatment of the people under their care after WW2 ensured that those countries could not scramble to NATO fast enough after the USSR fell.
“The Two Ocean War” by Samuel Eliot Morrison should be mandatory reading by all members of Congress & the President. Though USAF long range strike capability has changed things a bit.
Awesome job. 👍
China loves our US Navy protecting their near 1 billion annual trade surplus (in their favor) shipping from China to the Eastern United States. Our US Navy protects their enlarged and deepened 2nd Panama Canal and their two ports the CCP are commissioned to run on the Gulf and Pacific sides of the Panama Canal. Since the new Panama Canal has been widened and deepened this 2nd Panama Canal, built by China or their Belt and Road initiative, shipping through the improved Panama Canal has increased shipping through the Panama Canal by 3 to 4 times higher or more tonnage since it opened in 2016.
It was you Sal, on this channel, that taught me China makes near 50% of all commercial worldwide container ships and other commercial ships. Sal also taught me China, South Korea and Japan between them make near 90% of all commercial ships worldwide and America can’t build anything commercially that is affordable or competitive compared to these 3 powerhouses at ship building.
Connecting the dots, China is at war with America but it’s an economic war not a hot war. They will rattle their bamboo but will never attack Taiwan. Why would they care to attack, near half the islands inhabitants align with China and mainland China’s economy is a very large part of Taiwan’s economy or their biggest trading partner. They have the best of both worlds and so does China. Trade wars are the wars Taiwan and China are winning along with South Korea and Japan. If they ever stopped hating each other and joined forces then and only then would I believe they would be a force to be reckoned with militarily.
Love this channel, but it’s not torpedoes straight ahead but massive US trade imbalances straight ahead, behind us and in our near future that is our demise. The generations and generations long lasting bubble since the 1960’s is about to burst, thanks to our environmental policies and push to deindustrialize. Ending fossil fuels production and use, will be seen as our way of life’s death kneel. Yet like lemmings we run to salvation saving the planet lifting upward only to come crashing downwards over the energy fossil fuels free cliff we jettisoned ourselves over.
I bet the admiral's comments would be a lot different if the PRC was cruising around the Gulf Coast, in international waters, with their carrier battlegroup.
Sal - PLEASE work on editing YT ad disruptions!!!! Yikes. Their algorithms are killing your videos 🥲
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I was commissioned in 1975, still going strong.
🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁LION c LIKE No. 469 ---> I was on USS Constellation CVA 64 (Now Razor Blades) and Nimitz is CVA 68.... That is old. We need more boats.
Outstandingg, thank you.
I love watching you explain how we are falling off a cliff
1 thing, 15:00, she asked what's the most powerful ship, not vessel :) Otherwise great job.
Thanks for your assessments !! but you're scaring the shit out of me !!!
China and IRAN. Iran has placed military posts in Panama , Columbia (two on the Canal ) and one in Brazil (Food).
General Millie is talking to his Chinese counterpart, by his own admission
I am 75 years old now, and a retired Marine. A naval aviator. If you're an enemy of the United States, you really don't want to take me on, even now. I will have you by the balls. As will my sons. We are more than our enemies can handle.
Superb analysis.
Appreciated!
Great overall update especially PRC's projected DF missile reach or defense. Most of what was covered I was aware of. This filled in some blanks for me and opened up some other questions.
It did not stray into actual response in the event of a conflict. I thought that was great. I've had my own opinion of the PRC since Clinton signed them into the WTO and prior to that. Never was positive and it went exactly where I thought it would. That was a bipartisan decision and both parties are to blame for its consequences. Don't forget that free trade directives were a Regan directive. That included Nafta which took years to implement fully by the agreements for all 3 countries.
If I was the USA I would not impart any info that the PRC could use. They can access the USN web site and find out ship deployment etc as it is posts public info generally speaking. PRC does not update anyone publicly including their own citizens unless it benefits the CCP ONLY.
Anyway the USA is the preeminent military on the planet like it or not. I am of the opinion that the capabilities to countermeasure certain threats are being or have been addressed and maybe ready to be implemented on some levels.
Great video. And it should be mentioned that we’re financing a lot of China’s military with all their commerce bought over here. Crazy world we live in.
I agree. However profits were the motivation and not the loss of technology. Never made sense to me.
@@mooglemy3813 Everyone was expecting China to become "normal" -- the great neighbor, kind, helpful, strong, responsible. Instead, they've turned into the sulky teenager, throwing temper tantrums and generally misbehaving. I don't think anyone saw this coming. Not even the political fringes in the US, even they didn't talk about this.
Developing the Chinese mind set for us. Very nice. We absolutely need to know why they think what they think.
I wish everyone would watch this. I don’t think most people understand how perilous the next 5 years are going to be beyond jingoistic “‘Mercia, fuck yeah!!” and WW2 nostalgia. It’s going to take all the arts of diplomacy and deterrence to both avoid a major war AND preserve, let alone grow, the free world.
I like the original President saying of “ Speak softly, but carry a really Big Sick”!!!!
The real problem is the number of missiles… what if they launch 500 missiles at one carrier, not good.
Love your reporting Sal
Let’s face it. America has dropped the ball decades go. They are great at bolstering to keep everyone at bay but when it comes down to brass tacks, they have lost their edge.
They sent out the majority of their manufacturing overseas from the big businessmen wanting cheap prices for their shareholders to get richer while the country suffers.
So many of its military operating is draining America.
Our jails and prisons should be manufacturing the cheap stuff coming from China. Make our own stuff. If you get caught shop lifting or looting you get a year working for $5 an hour in a labor camp. At the end of your sentence you get your money to help you get your act together as long as you don't have hard drugs in your system.
All our jails and prisons are doing is training future criminals.
That shirt totally rocks, Sal! Great show.
The range of the strike aircraft has been replaced somewhat with the range of the munitions.
Doesn't matter what physical state out navy is when our military brass is in such a bad shape mentally
Yes! It's time for Milley and the other WOKE commanders to go! It's time for more toughness to be back on top! Tough guys on top will trickle down to the lowest chief and the lowest sergeant. Retrain soldiers on bayonet techniques. It's damn shame the US Army stopped training on bayonet. Even the British are still training with the bayonet.
Even Fukuyama is no longer a Fukuyamaist.
Rome used to call places that they couldn't dominate as being run by tyrants...
It is the same thing here... The impirial-colonial systems assets are over valued and they need to dominate captalist civilizations [civilizations that CREATE capital] to survive. They want those societies to continue to 'liberalize' their ecnomomies so that wall street can take the value that is created by those capitalist societies.
The USA Navy can do a lot more than anyone knows. I think we all need chill out and get a shirt from Sal. Seriously Mr Sal you need to start selling Your Shirts. Start a store or something. Great video. Have you ever been in the wake of a USA submarine that pops up.
I had USS Boston surface right alongside of my ship but not in her wake.
Hello from the land down under.
I knew China had a base in Djibouti as do many other nations. But I had missed that it was a naval base with a sqadron or fleet and more importantly I had missed the significance with regards to shutting down a route of the Atlantic Fleet to th Indo Pac. Kinda scary. When I was a teenager I think when USS Midway was still in sevice and Ronnie Raygun was looking for a 600 ship navy USN had something like 15s/CV(N)s with like 30-40 attack/strike aicraft and 20+ fighters as well as specialised tankers, EW, AWACs as well as actual ASW aircraft.
I knew the USN was down to effectively 1 CV per ocean, but I didn't realise the wings had so few air frames.
@What's Going on With Shipping - you talked about countries like Japan, S.Korea, Viet Nam and the Phillipines maybe assisting the USN in any Pacific conflict - why did you not discuss India (part of "The Quad") and AUKUS? Do you think they are too distant, too small or not commited enough? Or are there other lessobvious factors at play here?
I think most Australian, whether we like it or not expect that the RAN and RAAF would be involved in any conflict in the region that involved the US.
RE: The airwing. Shouldn't be going to drones that can be smaller and more attainable? It seems getting more range will be important and that might be a good part of it.
I'm concerned about the shorter range F-35 and then need for them to refuel frequently way out away from the carrier. For stealth reasons they don't have outboard fuel tanks that could be dropped before an engagement.
There's a possibility of using the northwest passage.
Great interview Sal. I was on brand new 668 class as well as an old nuke. . They are all gone. Old today as am I. On Guam. The Marines alone did not take it. You had 3rd MARDIV, 1st Prov Marine BDE and the 77th Division (US Army). My Dad was in the 77th. He fought there! Unfortunately I dont think the Navy is up to the challenge today. On a visit to San Diego i talked to some Navy officers. They are motivated but would like more time training to fight. Navy PAO is doing well. Look fwd to part 2.
I love the breakdown of the prop@ganda, I mean, mistaken discussion.
Thanks Sal
The Navy has said it will only deploy AC into “ permissive “ areas that means only off the coasts of friendly countries. Why ? Because between subs and hypersonic missiles the AC is extremely vulnerable to attack. Actually the whole surface fleet is in that position. Submarines and every thing else on the surface is just a target . Oh by the way yes those subs of the other guys ? They can launch hypersonic weapons from a thousand miles away from any carrier group .
Submarines are the lynchpin to this, we need more submarines
Great report!
Aircraft carriers are great........targets. Fire 25 or more anti-ship cruise missiles at one simultaneously and there really is no defense......😳
Great work guys, It Brings the security of the water down here thanks alot
As someone that was in the Navy and forward deployed, definitely a shit show.
Also a reminder the US state department says Taiwan is part of China, while the US does duplicitous behavior.
Hard to call them aggressive when we're actively surrounding them, and can cut their jugular via the strait of Malacca.
If the navy puts surface ships in that integrated missile defense zone it is going to find out a hard lesson. Subs are going to be the only thing in that area, and can only carry so many tomahawks.
The US says no such thing, here is the H.R.2479 - Taiwan Relations Act:
www.congress.gov/bill/96th-congress/house-bill/2479/text
www.congress.gov/bill/96th-congress/house-bill/2479
And here is the first paragraph of the official summary:
Taiwan Relations Act - Declares it to be the policy of the United States to preserve and promote extensive, close, and friendly commercial, cultural, and other relations between the people of the United States and the people on Taiwan, as well as the people on the China mainland and all other people of the Western Pacific area. Declares that peace and stability in the area are in the political, security, and economic interests of the United States, and are matters of international concern. States that the United States decision to establish diplomatic relations with the People's Republic of China rests upon the expectation that the future of Taiwan will be determined by peaceful means and that any effort to determine the future of Taiwan by other than peaceful means, including by boycotts or embargoes is considered a threat to the peace and security of the Western Pacific area and of grave concern to the United States. States that the United States shall provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character and shall maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or social or economic system, of the people of Taiwan.
Note the phrasing in people OF the US and the people ON Taiwan and ON the China mainland in both the summary and Section 2 b) of the Act, the US doesn't agree with any position it just acknowledges their existence.
And as for the surrounding part, we don't need the strait of malacca, 80% of chinas oil imports flows through the persian gulf, where the US is the only superpower present, we can cut them of right there without any issues. China challenging the US in the current geostrategic position seems rather suicidal and kinda reminds me of japans position before WW2.
False,
The U.S has never said that Taiwan is part of China.
The DoD has a 2023 budget of $816.7 billion and wants $842 billion next year. How much money does it take to be ready? We need our own Wagner group if the DoD can't handle our defense!
I support this content.
Strong analysis!
Doesn't the long range missiles counteract any range lost by aircraft? Also since the navy doesn't have a stealth bomber using pure bombers would not be very effective?
22:39 I remember that incident well.
As a former Chinese individual, I understand how Chinese people perceive the ocean and Taiwan. For thousands of years, China has been an agrarian civilization, valuing agriculture over commerce. Although many changes have occurred today, a lot of fundamental thought processes remain the same. The primary objective of China's naval expansion is to ensure that no land is lost.
Regarding Taiwan, some thirty to forty years ago, Taiwan was preparing to recapture the mainland. This was because the Taiwanese rulers at the time, much like the Chinese rulers of today, were more focused on the legitimacy of their rule. Such legitimacy cannot tolerate the existence of another Chinese government. The Chinese civilization values orthodoxy highly.
Whether it's the Democratic Progressive Party or the Kuomintang in Taiwan, both are constantly demonstrating to the Chinese people in China the possibility of a different political system. Therefore, China finds it difficult to tolerate Taiwan's independence.
...land mass and coastline, their control what makes countries great, or not. Reminds me of the Treaty of Lausanne, and the Aegean, how it was divided, where Greece and Turkey were made equal in power, that the smaller of the two has the greater command of the sea.
Indeed, China so overwhelmingly large in the region, it is no wonder that a leader like Xi bristles toward the much smaller States that naturally resist his notion of supremacy.
...what is on the (drawing) table(s); a doctrine of former CIA director Bush. Capacity is the word, not necessarily what is in a warehouse waiting, but what when called for could exist.
...the small consolation is that American know how now hobbled as a Navy, (no tugs, no icebreakers, no shipyards, not enough fighting ships) still remains capable at its missions.
Planning ahead counts more than ever; great discussion Sal..